4's water simulation was an EXTREME performance hog. 5 chose realistic waves and foam. Realistic waves and foam + dynamic water deformation would be impossible on 7th gen consoles. But RDR2 has it. 6 will have it.
It's so annoying that in GTA5 the AK-style rifle shoots way slower than it sounds. And the waves are way too big to have a fun and fast boat ride. Visually water in GTA5 looks better. GTA4 car wash is more realistic and feels more refreshing)
Of the three games in GTA 4, the worst water physics. In the fifth GTA, the waves are directly visible, these clothes get wet gradually when immersed in water, splashing waves hit the rocks, you will not survive if you jump from a helicopter into the water. Not to mention the fact that in real life there is no funnel like in GTA 4. Yes, and it’s corny to ride a jet ski in GTA 5 much more pleasant, in GTA 4 it’s jelly in comparison.
@@АлексейПопов-ю4ъWhat I want is gta 6 to have rdr2 water physics and all the same features as gta 5, gta 4 and gta SA combined and even better, RDR2 is 5 years old meaning the water NOW could look WAYYYY better
Of the three games in GTA 4, the worst water physics. In the fifth GTA, the waves are directly visible, these clothes get wet gradually when immersed in water, splashing waves hit the rocks, you will not survive if you jump from a helicopter into the water. Not to mention the fact that in real life there is no funnel like in GTA 4. Yes, and it’s corny to ride a jet ski in GTA 5 much more pleasant, in GTA 4 it’s jelly in comparison.
El agua de gta 4 realista? pero si parece gelatina xd lo unico bueno de esa agua es cuando se forman las pequeñas olas al ir en bote. en lo demas el gta 5 es superior
@@edu6509 Por eso. el agua de GTA 4 es mas divertida, mas no realista, si has visto en la vida real los helicopteros no forman ese hueco sobre el agua, forrman pequeños circulos de espuma como en GTA V, lo de cuando un auto cae al agua en GTA IV es exagerado la reaccion, en GTA V es un poco mas cercano a como pasaria realmente pero no tan real igual, lo de que parecen paredes es exactamente a como reacciona el agua en la vida real cuando es impactada a alta velocidad, en la vida real si caes muy alto y de forma inapropiada el agua se puede sentir como cemento, (experiencia propia)
The water in GTA 4 is like jelly, in general, like the whole physics of the game. It tries to simulate realistic behavior, but it is not realistic. In GTA 5, water has become more technologically advanced, but the simulation of realistic behavior has been simplified for it. I can't say that this is good, but in the game the water in GTA 5 feels much better
They basically trade semi convicing simulation for better looking water and an entire underwater ecosystem. They are both good but I'd say V is way more impressive
V's water looks much better and it has wave simulation, but that's about it, because it almost completely lacks physics and the splash effects look like garbage in comparison to IV. Not to mention the overuse of white effects to compensate the lack of deformation. That pretty much sums up the philosophy of both of the games as a whole: IV is much more ambitious and has lots and lots of details trying to simulate a realistic experience. While it overexaggerates in some areas, it's still overal more realistic. While V on the other hand tries to be a bigger GTA: San Andreas with realistic graphics and adds some new details, but it drops many of IV's
The actual movement and physics of the water is better in IV, but the looks and details are better in V, if they can combine these in VI that’ll be something
In IV the water looks like jelly, but it had better physics. In V the water looks like paper and don't behave like water at all. One thing you didn't show is that in IV the water clean dirty cars, it can be mud or blood. In V it simply doesn't.
In GTA 4 the water is more bone mesh style so thats why it looks like jelly, the particles are also much bigger and better. In GTA 5 the water is less wavy at first, but the deeper - the wavier. Also it has less particles. In fact GTA 5 on PC has a water phisics setting that cns be changed, so the comparisons would be longer. GTA 5 simply uses a more optimized gameplay. Bone meshed water is baisscally a mesh that has these let's say for example invisible parts and each part that you pull will stretch the mesh on same direction that you pull. This way animations and collisions are created to simulate water, however there can be other ways.
I prefer GTA 4 the driving in that game is much more realistic and if you take a corner to aggressive or clip the curb just right the entire vehicle will flip during hard cornering. oversteer not really a problem in GTA 4 because Nico don't really care about car modifications so the vehicle is not gonna have a lot of horse power unless it's something specific right out of the box.
The first game of the 3D Universe, GTA III's water is opaque, polluted and toxic. If the player completely submerges himself inside water by walking or driving into it, the player's health will begin to decrease rapidly, and his body will slowly float to the surface. The in-game explanation for this is that an oil spill had coated the city's harbor in a thick hazardous film, also there is radioactive waste in gta ctw which is also in HD universe i think this explains the behaviour of water in liberty city, also we cant swim more than 8 minutes in gta 4 else player will die
I prefer GTA 4's water over 5's because you can ACTUALLY GO FULL SPEED. you can only go full speed in 5 in small areas like canals. In the ocean though, the waves are AWFUL!!!
For those who understand, GTA 5 has simplified and optimized water that behaves realisticly, but in GTA 4 the water like every comment says is like jelly, probably because it's just an animated mesh with bones that move after collisions.
Sacrifices so it can run better and have more content and other mechanics on PS3/Xbox 360 so the same platform GTA IV originally came out on. It is improved in some areas while regressed others. PC version is just a mild touch up with rain drop effects, first person view and more graphical details. Red Dead Redemption 2 is what GTA 5 could be on PS4/XBONE era only hardware if they didnt try to push it on PS3 and X360.
Sacrifices had to be made. GTA V has a massive scale compared to IV, not just in map size but in terms of features, variety of models and textures, weather effects, events, number of vehicles and much more. The fact that the water graphics were downgraded doesn't mean much when the texture work looks much more natural and behaves more realistically when looking at it from a distance and the fact that you can even go underwater and there's a whole underwater ecosystem down there. If you ask me, GTA V is years ahead of GTA IV when talking about all that. Both games are great on their own right tho
@@holad-jlsegovia-423 I thought I was the only one seeing this. As for me, in GTA 5, the developers wanted to combine the best of San Andreas and GTA 4, while doing it on the old generation consoles. From San Andreas to the game scale, opportunities, various missions, and the like. From GTA 4 there are engines in the game, more realistic and smooth animations of the character himself, a lot of detailed details of which, in general, even more than in GTA 4. But people seem to flatly refuse to see it. And I have not yet talked about online, in fact the game is a game.
@@АлексейПопов-ю4ъ Exactly, GTA 4 excels when it comes to attention to detail but there isn't much variety to it when even compared to San Andreas for example and there a lot of features that are missing. While GTA V, just tries to do a whole lot more in a much grander scale while sacrificing those small details. Both games had to work with the PS3 and Xbox 360 limitations and I honestly find it impressive that they both run perfectly fine in those consoles. People should just stop comparing them so much since they really tried different things, not only with their gameplay but also with their writing and imo, they are both excellent at what they are trying to be.
@@holad-jlsegovia-423 Noticed one trend. When GTA San Andreas came out, some fans even at that time criticized the game for its weak technical side, although in return they received a wide variety of worlds, many features and mechanics. In GTA 4, the developers heard the fans and made a technical breakthrough, a living world, although not so diverse. But fans did not like the seriousness of the game, the poorer gameplay after San Andreas. In GTA 5, the developers decided to please everyone, add a little bit from past GTAs, on old consoles. Although there were critics. In general, in each part, the developers wanted to surprise and make a leap in the industry, so each is good in its own way and unique in its atmosphere, reflecting an entire era.
steel barrels dont float if full of water. seems like 4 has a different viscosity to the water..dampening out waves & looking kind of like oil, more than water.
shooting the water..AK has the effective pwr of a .22LR.. that is noted whilst shooting at NPC's or players. It should be a feared/respected weapon, as has been since 1947 irl. not a LOL at gun, lol. at least IV shows a larger spray from water impacts. jack it up to Marksman Rifle pwr per shot & Marksman back to it's 1-2 rnds for a kill pwr..it was nerfed awhile back.
The gun bullets in GTA 5 has a very realistic water splash detail
4's water simulation was an EXTREME performance hog. 5 chose realistic waves and foam. Realistic waves and foam + dynamic water deformation would be impossible on 7th gen consoles.
But RDR2 has it. 6 will have it.
It's so annoying that in GTA5 the AK-style rifle shoots way slower than it sounds.
And the waves are way too big to have a fun and fast boat ride.
Visually water in GTA5 looks better.
GTA4 car wash is more realistic and feels more refreshing)
I feel GTA V overdid the white water too much.
Yeh same
That's how it looks like in real life for the most part.
@CoolerGermanyhii
It looks like milk
Yh but that’s how it happens in real life tho
4 has better physics but in 5 you can dive underwater. Hopefully 6 will combine the two
Of the three games in GTA 4, the worst water physics. In the fifth GTA, the waves are directly visible, these clothes get wet gradually when immersed in water, splashing waves hit the rocks, you will not survive if you jump from a helicopter into the water. Not to mention the fact that in real life there is no funnel like in GTA 4. Yes, and it’s corny to ride a jet ski in GTA 5 much more pleasant, in GTA 4 it’s jelly in comparison.
If it takes place in Vice City then main character(s) won't be able to swim 😅
@@АлексейПопов-ю4ъWhat I want is gta 6 to have rdr2 water physics and all the same features as gta 5, gta 4 and gta SA combined and even better, RDR2 is 5 years old meaning the water NOW could look WAYYYY better
GTA IV for sure🤝🏻
Of course you would say that
@@Moop666 🌚🤝🏻
Nope. Not even close..
Dumb take
@@lukky6648 ayo everyone got their own choices like u have yours 🤝🏻
I don't know. Water in IV may not look good, but it surely behaves better than in V.
Lo bueno es que en rdr2 volvió el agua realista del gta 4 y seguramente que para el GTA 6 estará mucho mejor
Of the three games in GTA 4, the worst water physics. In the fifth GTA, the waves are directly visible, these clothes get wet gradually when immersed in water, splashing waves hit the rocks, you will not survive if you jump from a helicopter into the water. Not to mention the fact that in real life there is no funnel like in GTA 4. Yes, and it’s corny to ride a jet ski in GTA 5 much more pleasant, in GTA 4 it’s jelly in comparison.
Hopes are down for GTA 6 be the last damn game I’d buy anyways
El agua de gta 4 realista? pero si parece gelatina xd lo unico bueno de esa agua es cuando se forman las pequeñas olas al ir en bote. en lo demas el gta 5 es superior
@@edu6509 Por eso. el agua de GTA 4 es mas divertida, mas no realista, si has visto en la vida real los helicopteros no forman ese hueco sobre el agua, forrman pequeños circulos de espuma como en GTA V, lo de cuando un auto cae al agua en GTA IV es exagerado la reaccion, en GTA V es un poco mas cercano a como pasaria realmente pero no tan real igual, lo de que parecen paredes es exactamente a como reacciona el agua en la vida real cuando es impactada a alta velocidad, en la vida real si caes muy alto y de forma inapropiada el agua se puede sentir como cemento, (experiencia propia)
The water in GTA 4 is like jelly, in general, like the whole physics of the game. It tries to simulate realistic behavior, but it is not realistic. In GTA 5, water has become more technologically advanced, but the simulation of realistic behavior has been simplified for it. I can't say that this is good, but in the game the water in GTA 5 feels much better
Yeah, but the water physics were still damn good for a game this old that only ran on Xbox 360 and PS3.
They basically trade semi convicing simulation for better looking water and an entire underwater ecosystem. They are both good but I'd say V is way more impressive
except the water mesh tessellation from force, maybe they left it out for optimization idk, but it's present in 4 missing in 5
No gta 4 is better and realistic, gta 5 is garbage for parentless kids
Yeah water doesn't "indent" like that when a heli flies over it. Looks fun but not realistic.
I love the huge muzzle flashes in GTA IV
2:11 only One Piece fans will understand this reference. The GTA 5 helicopter was like: "Ice age!"
Aokiji
I think gta 4 has better water physics and it looks realistic when halicopter splashing the water
search a video of real heli on water, is more like GTA V
@@ElJony-kun okay bro 😊
@@ElJony-kunno
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@@gnrtx-36969 Yes
At least in water 5 had a big improvement
not really, the water has zero deformation in gta 5
V's water looks much better and it has wave simulation, but that's about it, because it almost completely lacks physics and the splash effects look like garbage in comparison to IV. Not to mention the overuse of white effects to compensate the lack of deformation. That pretty much sums up the philosophy of both of the games as a whole: IV is much more ambitious and has lots and lots of details trying to simulate a realistic experience. While it overexaggerates in some areas, it's still overal more realistic. While V on the other hand tries to be a bigger GTA: San Andreas with realistic graphics and adds some new details, but it drops many of IV's
GTA 4 water really said: 🟫🟫🟫🟫
Yea I feel like gta v added too much milk in the water
@@MaxwellPlayz. The milk reminds me of my- you don't wanna know🤫🧏
@@Chucker1234-u4e 💀 TF
Shut up jerks The water's supposed to be white because real life also have it And the splash is more better in gta 5 and gta 4 looks like slime
Welcome back?
Me encanta el agua que rodea la Liberty City de GTA IV.
Parece río en vez de mar.
2:08 IV looks cooler, but V is more like what it looks like IRL.
IV had the better physics overall i feel, 2008 was definitely an era for physics over graphics
The actual movement and physics of the water is better in IV, but the looks and details are better in V, if they can combine these in VI that’ll be something
In IV the water looks like jelly, but it had better physics. In V the water looks like paper and don't behave like water at all. One thing you didn't show is that in IV the water clean dirty cars, it can be mud or blood. In V it simply doesn't.
In GTA 4 the water is more bone mesh style so thats why it looks like jelly, the particles are also much bigger and better. In GTA 5 the water is less wavy at first, but the deeper - the wavier. Also it has less particles. In fact GTA 5 on PC has a water phisics setting that cns be changed, so the comparisons would be longer. GTA 5 simply uses a more optimized gameplay. Bone meshed water is baisscally a mesh that has these let's say for example invisible parts and each part that you pull will stretch the mesh on same direction that you pull. This way animations and collisions are created to simulate water, however there can be other ways.
Gta v: Fake water
Gta IV: jelly water
Overall V wins. Water in IV behaves more like gello. Weird.
Hell nah bruh
As much as I like GTA IV everything, I gotta admit that its a very demanding game
Niko wished you the best😆 2:42
I prefer GTA 4 the driving in that game is much more realistic and if you take a corner to aggressive or clip the curb just right the entire vehicle will flip during hard cornering. oversteer not really a problem in GTA 4 because Nico don't really care about car modifications so the vehicle is not gonna have a lot of horse power unless it's something specific right out of the box.
The first game of the 3D Universe, GTA III's water is opaque, polluted and toxic. If the player completely submerges himself inside water by walking or driving into it, the player's health will begin to decrease rapidly, and his body will slowly float to the surface. The in-game explanation for this is that an oil spill had coated the city's harbor in a thick hazardous film, also there is radioactive waste in gta ctw which is also in HD universe
i think this explains the behaviour of water in liberty city, also we cant swim more than 8 minutes in gta 4 else player will die
GTA IV water physics is underrated
GTA 5 has good color in water and nice for diving.
Gta iv felt so alive
how did you make the edges in gta 4?
Isn't water the reason GTA IV runs kinda bad on everything.
So cool
Yo can we get overheat 2
GG!
So disappointed we’re not going back to Liberty City for GTA VI
It's too soon to return to liberty city again
Gta4 water looks scary
You can wash cars o_O
Need some GTA movie episodes
First view is always mine because i know vuckoo always uploads on Sunday evening
The submarine shows u the physics of water are pretty good in gta5 but they are bad when swimming
Gta 4 has way more fluidity and deformation in water
Ad some random dude said in another comparison between these 2:"GTA 5 looks realistic, GTA 4 is realistic.".
As I know GTA 4 is stiil TOP 🙂
Compare 171 Game On Steam Vs GTA 5
gta 5 has better water. but the ripppe effects on a game from 2008 are insane
I miss gta 4 rockets
I prefer GTA 4's water over 5's because you can ACTUALLY GO FULL SPEED. you can only go full speed in 5 in small areas like canals. In the ocean though, the waves are AWFUL!!!
I prefer gta4 car wash animation time
Antyaliasing GTA 4 ?
It doesn’t matter honestly 😂
IV wins
GTA 4 win for me! still GTA4 is fun for me, GTA5 I dont play since last year, got boring for me. Like GTA3 with better grafik
Why have you never done a episode 4 for ur gta series that was so good now ur just trynna get easy views and leaving ur old subscribers
Can you do GTA VI vs GTA V next?
Obviously gta 4 lol
gta 4 water is much better
GTA v have the best texture quality in all aspects, and GTA iv have the more realistically accurate physics(not exactly the best)
For those who understand, GTA 5 has simplified and optimized water that behaves realisticly, but in GTA 4 the water like every comment says is like jelly, probably because it's just an animated mesh with bones that move after collisions.
First veiw is always mine
You aren't the first
According to youtube
@@SAIHTAM20Y oh 😅😆
Why is GTA5 built so badly
Sacrifices so it can run better and have more content and other mechanics on PS3/Xbox 360 so the same platform GTA IV originally came out on. It is improved in some areas while regressed others. PC version is just a mild touch up with rain drop effects, first person view and more graphical details. Red Dead Redemption 2 is what GTA 5 could be on PS4/XBONE era only hardware if they didnt try to push it on PS3 and X360.
Sacrifices had to be made. GTA V has a massive scale compared to IV, not just in map size but in terms of features, variety of models and textures, weather effects, events, number of vehicles and much more.
The fact that the water graphics were downgraded doesn't mean much when the texture work looks much more natural and behaves more realistically when looking at it from a distance and the fact that you can even go underwater and there's a whole underwater ecosystem down there. If you ask me, GTA V is years ahead of GTA IV when talking about all that. Both games are great on their own right tho
@@holad-jlsegovia-423 I thought I was the only one seeing this. As for me, in GTA 5, the developers wanted to combine the best of San Andreas and GTA 4, while doing it on the old generation consoles. From San Andreas to the game scale, opportunities, various missions, and the like. From GTA 4 there are engines in the game, more realistic and smooth animations of the character himself, a lot of detailed details of which, in general, even more than in GTA 4. But people seem to flatly refuse to see it. And I have not yet talked about online, in fact the game is a game.
@@АлексейПопов-ю4ъ Exactly, GTA 4 excels when it comes to attention to detail but there isn't much variety to it when even compared to San Andreas for example and there a lot of features that are missing. While GTA V, just tries to do a whole lot more in a much grander scale while sacrificing those small details.
Both games had to work with the PS3 and Xbox 360 limitations and I honestly find it impressive that they both run perfectly fine in those consoles.
People should just stop comparing them so much since they really tried different things, not only with their gameplay but also with their writing and imo, they are both excellent at what they are trying to be.
@@holad-jlsegovia-423 Noticed one trend. When GTA San Andreas came out, some fans even at that time criticized the game for its weak technical side, although in return they received a wide variety of worlds, many features and mechanics. In GTA 4, the developers heard the fans and made a technical breakthrough, a living world, although not so diverse. But fans did not like the seriousness of the game, the poorer gameplay after San Andreas. In GTA 5, the developers decided to please everyone, add a little bit from past GTAs, on old consoles. Although there were critics. In general, in each part, the developers wanted to surprise and make a leap in the industry, so each is good in its own way and unique in its atmosphere, reflecting an entire era.
Gta 4 water sucks.
Cringe
Is there anyone who can help me to buy a new PC, so I need money to fulfill my dream😔😢
Effects looks much better in GTA 4
GTAIV..with a rear sight on the rear and front of the slide on the pistol.
And they magically reload assualt rifles by pulling the bolt back lol
steel barrels dont float if full of water. seems like 4 has a different viscosity to the water..dampening out waves & looking kind of like oil, more than water.
water in liberty city is full of trash and poisonous so it makes for it, also you can't swim over 8 minutes in gta 4
its a tie on the car wash..except the last step is supposed to be pwrful fans to dry your car off..not more water, lol.
shooting the water..AK has the effective pwr of a .22LR.. that is noted whilst shooting at NPC's or players.
It should be a feared/respected weapon, as has been since 1947 irl.
not a LOL at gun, lol. at least IV shows a larger spray from water impacts.
jack it up to Marksman Rifle pwr per shot & Marksman back to it's 1-2 rnds for a kill pwr..it was nerfed awhile back.
firetruck.. V has better water spray. but how about the water cannons effect on NPC's?
Gta4 water looks scary