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Great video as always! But doesn´t the Eurofighter carry the Meteor instead of the AMRAAM? And would it be possible to make a bandit unknown in the Eurofighter?
You just know there was some steering committee early on in the project that was responsible for the naming conventions that spent an entire meeting giggling and trying to work up the courage to tell their commanding officers the name they had settled on.
It's the most British thing possible to give a very serious subject a rude yet descriptive acronym.
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"Today in Growling Sidewinder School"... I've learned more about fighter jets by watching your videos in the last couple of years than in my entire life.
@@augiehicks4588 I still wanna see that kill reproduced by Growling Sidewinder eventually, would be a really cool fucking video. He's been doing so much A-10 A2G recently, why not F-15 A2G? Let's pickle ourselves a Hind eh?
I really like this educational format, I always wished there was more stuff like this on youtube. Thanks for the quality content and info! Maybe in the future would you consider talking about the history of RWR? I'd be curious to know how it works/how it came about
very informative content, perhaps a similar vid for the soviet/eastern munitions, where data is available...? or a comparison of west vs east. AIM9 R27? AIM120 R77? etc.
Quite different than your usual style of video, but I liked it. Very well organized and put together. Good information that we can probably see put to use in future videos. Nice job, GS.
That's not taking AIM-120D into consideration with a range of 90 miles and certainly not The AIM-260 JATM with an obviously classified range however it's been quoted to have a range TWICE as much as The AIM-120D lol which true range is also classified ;)
The best thing with the meteor is not the range. It's its ramjet propulsion that makes its flight energy profile totally different from a traditional missile. It has more maneuverability even during it's final flight phase thanks to it's capacity to keep burning propellant continuously.
@@ZratP exactly, it’s not about range but how lethal it is at different ranges. It’s no point going a long range if you can’t hit anything. Ramjet stay’s lethal.
While the AIM-120 series is an excellent platform it realistically does not hold up to the likes of the Meteor or perhaps even the PL-15, the DOD and the U.S military are acutely aware of this and are attempting to alleviate this with the development of the AIM-260 JATM, what little we know of that program (relatively), it appears to be the next gold standard in long range ARH missile technology.
If we look at Desert Storm, we can surmise that a true full air battle with fourth gen fighters still requires visual identification or clear awacs id to choose to engage enemies with fox-3 missiles. The AMRAAM fits that envelope so perfectly. Long range seems to be a full WW3 idea.
Great video growling you should really do it more of these you have an endless catalog of aircraft and weapons to choose from ! Can't wait for the next one it's a great change of pace just like how the ground videos were not sure if many others would agree but I liked it!
Python 5, thrust vectoring and more manuevering points that any other missile out something like 18 or 24, and speeds up upon impact i dont think any other missile speeds up upon impact. If what ive seen on them is true, those things will reacquire if it misses. Pretty sure you had a video on one no ?
Thank you for pointing out the Canadair contribution to the Sparrow II program. Douglas and the USN gave up on the Sparrow II in 1955. RCAF chose the Sparrow II and Falcon missile for the Avro Arrow with the Astra fire control system. I believe Canadair kept this weapons system alive to be improved to the AAMRAM we have today.
So the question "Is Amraam the best?" is answered by "one of the best"... Which was obvious from the outset for anyone with a passing knowledge of AAM's (e.g. knowing what AAM means).
Damn love this kind of video from you. Honestly your voice has some soothing quality to it, optimal especially when doing a short documentary about things that go pssssshhh BOOOM
Ian McCollum : "Today on Forgotten Weapons we have Growling Sidewinder, he's going to introduce us to one of the favorite weapon systems for fighter pilots to hate on, the Aim Seven Radar guided missile." GS "Thanks for having me Ian. The Aim Seven Sparrow, shared none of the pin point accuracy of that little feathered hunter we see in the wild, the aerial acrobat it was named after, plucking insects out of the air with stunning precision... this thing is more like a near sighted seagull that notices nothing smaller than a garbage barge... illuminated by a search light. Let's examine why for a moment..."
Nicely done. Should of mentioned the unofficial name "Slammer", too. We don't know much about the AIM-260 yet, so naming the AIM-120 the 'best' is a bit difficult. 'Most Proven', 'Most Effective' (ie having an effect)? Certainly.
Best in terms of what? It most certainly beats the trial missiles in terms of availability. Also, while something is in trial, I would refrain it from comparing it with anything, or even qualifying it as a weapon. These are experiments, and usually have tons of unresolved issues (see Mk.14 torpedo for reference).
@@balazsfoldes4700 AIM-260 was _supposed_ to have an IOC of 2022, so it's probably well past trials by now. And yes, new weapons are almost always plagued with teething issues. We really can't say much more, though if it's supposed to replace the Slammer I would say it is to the AMRAAM what the AMRAAM was to the Sparrow. Time will tell.
Growling Sidewinder, this certainly is an informative and entertaining video💯. Also, I have to share that I can't help but imagine how contractors pitched the ASRAAM to the military. It probably went something like "The ASRAAM...for when you have a h*** ** for the bandit, it's the ideal choice." 😎😆
Love these nuggets of knowledge style videos... Oh, make more memes for instagram please . The last few ones (especially the mig 29 and multiple eurofighter one) were absolute gem..
AMRAAM didn't need to get success here, it already got it well before as he even mentions in the video.... Also he was talking about the M/LRAAMs, like the AMRAAM(Subject of this video) and the R-77. Not the SRAAMs or HOBS missiles like the R-73 and AIM-9X.
I've read reports in the 80s that there are some Phoenix missle that have been 120+. Again, no real confirm other then some navy pilots talking. We'll never know will we?
I think during the Indian Pakistani standoff. The Indian airforce presented a radar picture of the AWACS showing that no su30mki got shot down. Also no wreckage of an su30mki was shown
Radar picture was shown for proving the irrefutable kill on a PAF F-16, not for proving that our own Su-30MKIs weren't shot down considering we flew the same 'kill', that Pakistan claimed so, during the same year to debunk such misleading claims.
Sparrow as only 12 miles? I remember playing the DOS plane sim Birds of Prey and it had a range of like 60 miles, I think? I guess that's not the definitive source tho lol
I was playing a flight sim 20+ years ago called F/A18 Interceptor on an Amiga A500. At the time I would generally use the AIM-9(L)?Sidewinders, as they were a lot better at hitting their target than the AMRAAMs provided.
Well said. AM-120 is the one of the best A2A missile in the world. There are other ones like PL-15, Meteor, R-77 etc. But ehh... Meteor is very good, but never ever downed an aircraft. So we dont know how good it is. Same applies to the PL-15. I have no idea about the Russian R-77. On paper you can find interesting informations about these missiles, but in reality only 1 proved itself and it is the AIM 120.
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Great video as always! But doesn´t the Eurofighter carry the Meteor instead of the AMRAAM? And would it be possible to make a bandit unknown in the Eurofighter?
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Yes, please.
@@Anarchy_420 raptor has just 8 internal hardpoints 2 of them fox 2 so its going to be atleast 1 kill with guns. would be funn to watch
@@blxuermaster9454 i think it carries a mix of it since you don´t need to many meteors and its larger and havier the the amraam
You got to love calling a missile designed to fly up a jet's tailpipe an ASRAAM. 😄
Definitely did it on purpose lmao
Lmao, How did I not notice until now?
LOL
You just know there was some steering committee early on in the project that was responsible for the naming conventions that spent an entire meeting giggling and trying to work up the courage to tell their commanding officers the name they had settled on.
It's the most British thing possible to give a very serious subject a rude yet descriptive acronym.
"Today in Growling Sidewinder School"... I've learned more about fighter jets by watching your videos in the last couple of years than in my entire life.
this!
when going by sheer numbers of a2a kills, the gbu-10 trumps the meteor 1-0...
😂
GBU-10*
I assume you're referring to when the F-15E scored an AA kill against a Hind I believe it was, in which case that was a GBU-10 not a 12.
@SpaceKraken and @Augie Hicks thanks i'll change it
@@augiehicks4588 I still wanna see that kill reproduced by Growling Sidewinder eventually, would be a really cool fucking video. He's been doing so much A-10 A2G recently, why not F-15 A2G? Let's pickle ourselves a Hind eh?
I really like this educational format, I always wished there was more stuff like this on youtube. Thanks for the quality content and info!
Maybe in the future would you consider talking about the history of RWR? I'd be curious to know how it works/how it came about
I respectfully second that request!
very informative content, perhaps a similar vid for the soviet/eastern munitions, where data is available...? or a comparison of west vs east.
AIM9 R27?
AIM120 R77?
etc.
A better comparison would be aim9 and r73 because the r73 is intended for close range launches, whereas the r27 is intended for medium ranges.
That video of the F16 landing gear doors with Sparrows was super neat
I know right never knew about that mounting
Excellent explanation @GS. These mini documentaries are packed with information and well produced.
thank you very much much appreciated.
Quite different than your usual style of video, but I liked it. Very well organized and put together. Good information that we can probably see put to use in future videos. Nice job, GS.
I don't know--the MDBA _Meteor_ has to potential to be even better due to its enormous range (more than twice that of AMRAAM).
That's not taking AIM-120D into consideration with a range of 90 miles and certainly not The AIM-260 JATM with an obviously classified range however it's been quoted to have a range TWICE as much as The AIM-120D lol which true range is also classified ;)
The *stated* range might be twice that of the AMRAAM, but the numbers we civilians see are totally inaccurate and meaningless.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma the stated IOC date is 2022, the Air Force could just be secretive about it for all we know
The best thing with the meteor is not the range. It's its ramjet propulsion that makes its flight energy profile totally different from a traditional missile.
It has more maneuverability even during it's final flight phase thanks to it's capacity to keep burning propellant continuously.
@@ZratP exactly, it’s not about range but how lethal it is at different ranges. It’s no point going a long range if you can’t hit anything. Ramjet stay’s lethal.
They have the AIM-260 and the Peregrine missile coming soon
While the AIM-120 series is an excellent platform it realistically does not hold up to the likes of the Meteor or perhaps even the PL-15, the DOD and the U.S military are acutely aware of this and are attempting to alleviate this with the development of the AIM-260 JATM, what little we know of that program (relatively), it appears to be the next gold standard in long range ARH missile technology.
So the meteor and PL-15 have been used in air combat? Nope. Speculation does no determine who is better.
@@manofchaitea6904 So the F-22 and F-35 aren't better than an F-15C and F-16?
Because the first two have never seen combat, the older two have 😉
@@johannafischer8915 except the F22 and F35 have? They're all great platforms.
If we look at Desert Storm, we can surmise that a true full air battle with fourth gen fighters still requires visual identification or clear awacs id to choose to engage enemies with fox-3 missiles. The AMRAAM fits that envelope so perfectly. Long range seems to be a full WW3 idea.
@@FancyNoodlez when? Against air opponents?
Great video growling you should really do it more of these you have an endless catalog of aircraft and weapons to choose from !
Can't wait for the next one it's a great change of pace just like how the ground videos were not sure if many others would agree but I liked it!
Nice job on the mini-documentary! I would definitely like to see more like this.
for me, Meteor remains the better existing Fox-3 missile
No, AIM stands for Air Intercept Missile. Which is why the Sidewinder is the AIM-9 and the Sparrow is the AIM-7.
Python 5, thrust vectoring and more manuevering points that any other missile out something like 18 or 24, and speeds up upon impact i dont think any other missile speeds up upon impact. If what ive seen on them is true, those things will reacquire if it misses. Pretty sure you had a video on one no ?
Showing the Sparrows mounted to the gear bay doors just sent me on a rabbit hole... thanks...
Right?! I want to see more on that!
Thank you for pointing out the Canadair contribution to the Sparrow II program. Douglas and the USN gave up on the Sparrow II in 1955. RCAF chose the Sparrow II and Falcon missile for the Avro Arrow with the Astra fire control system. I believe Canadair kept this weapons system alive to be improved to the AAMRAM we have today.
0:58 A fox 3 going active is called Pitbull or Husky depending if it goes active in Medium PRF or High PRF.
those sparrows on the F-16s gear doors are awesome lol
That was a well put-together little mini documentary and I definitely didn't burst my sides when you said ass ram.
More of this content PLEASE!!! There, I asked nicely.
If the AIM-260 isn't already in production, it will be very soon.
Meteor enters the chat
Yes could very well be but since is not battle proven AMRAAM take the nr 1 spot for now
@@fqeagles21 The best things are never battle proven
@@fqeagles21 The F-22 could very well be the best fighter in the world, but since it has not been battle proven we'll say the F-15C is better.
@@paurodriguezriera7979 could very well be
@@fqeagles21 but it's not, because we know that it's design is superior
These mini documentaries are good.
Damn I like these types of videos. You explain fighter jet tech really well with your own background knowledge
Videos like this remind me of growing up in the 90s watching Weekday Wings (only...on the Discovery channel--RIP Discovery ;( ). Awesome stuff.
So the question "Is Amraam the best?" is answered by "one of the best"...
Which was obvious from the outset for anyone with a passing knowledge of AAM's (e.g. knowing what AAM means).
Well, i wish we knew about the Meteor missile and JATM 260. Imagine getting smacked without any warning
Damn love this kind of video from you. Honestly your voice has some soothing quality to it, optimal especially when doing a short documentary about things that go pssssshhh BOOOM
I really like these short video essays. keep up the good work.
Ian McCollum : "Today on Forgotten Weapons we have Growling Sidewinder, he's going to introduce us to one of the favorite weapon systems for fighter pilots to hate on, the Aim Seven Radar guided missile."
GS "Thanks for having me Ian. The Aim Seven Sparrow, shared none of the pin point accuracy of that little feathered hunter we see in the wild, the aerial acrobat it was named after, plucking insects out of the air with stunning precision... this thing is more like a near sighted seagull that notices nothing smaller than a garbage barge... illuminated by a search light. Let's examine why for a moment..."
Your Videos are amazing. Been following you for a year and your stuff just keeps getting better!! Keep it up!
Nicely done. Should of mentioned the unofficial name "Slammer", too. We don't know much about the AIM-260 yet, so naming the AIM-120 the 'best' is a bit difficult. 'Most Proven', 'Most Effective' (ie having an effect)? Certainly.
Best in terms of what? It most certainly beats the trial missiles in terms of availability. Also, while something is in trial, I would refrain it from comparing it with anything, or even qualifying it as a weapon. These are experiments, and usually have tons of unresolved issues (see Mk.14 torpedo for reference).
@@balazsfoldes4700 AIM-260 was _supposed_ to have an IOC of 2022, so it's probably well past trials by now. And yes, new weapons are almost always plagued with teething issues. We really can't say much more, though if it's supposed to replace the Slammer I would say it is to the AMRAAM what the AMRAAM was to the Sparrow. Time will tell.
*should've
are we still doing this "should of" thing? this is so 20-teens...
@@ichanmich Sorry, didn't get that grammatical memo.
6:11 Subtitles: "ass Ram" XD
I think this just became a channel about air combat, and I'm here for it
Love the vids man, keep up the great work
This is such a cool concept! When watching DCS content, it can be kind of overwhelming all the different weapon info. Thanks for the good info!
Awesome channel. Love the videos and how you explain things keep it up and keep up the warthog videos!!
I love this style of educational video. It does well on its own, or as an intro to an engagement. Thanks for the awesome content!
Great video. I remember an old sceen were you flew the FA18 against a Tomcat with Phoenix. Scary as h.
Should do a video on the meteor missile
U r the fucking Godfather of digital avioncs...love your videos
I appreciate you, much love.
Thanks for posting these types of videos. These are very informative and entertaining. Very cool!
I did not know that fighter jet wrecks can look so silly
I wish the USA would commission the F-69 SPAMRAAM.
Cool video. Like the change up
One word: Meteor.
Top notch this doc format, would be awesome if you research about the other A/A missiles and other subjects of air combat.
Growling Sidewinder, this certainly is an informative and entertaining video💯. Also, I have to share that I can't help but imagine how contractors pitched the ASRAAM to the military. It probably went something like "The ASRAAM...for when you have a h*** ** for the bandit, it's the ideal choice." 😎😆
I love videos like this, you executed it perfectly! Keep it up!
I LOVE videos like this man, keep it up!
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Love these nuggets of knowledge style videos...
Oh, make more memes for instagram please . The last few ones (especially the mig 29 and multiple eurofighter one) were absolute gem..
I really like these informational format videos.
AIM-54C Mark60: TWS 75 miles out on buddy daydreaming in his/her f15
Awesome breakdown! Thanks
you should talk about the aim-9 "siderwinder"
Some of the new Missile's coming out are truly amazing.
Great video! Love these!
These history videos are great. Really cool stuff
Can you do a video on how to avoid different missiles
They can also be launched from the ground with NASAMS.
Great video! Can you consider doing a similar video on the Israeli Python and Derby missiles?
Hey GS. Can you do an AH 64D Apache video? It's been quite a while since the last Apache video.
I really like those informative video, I don't think there is any youtuber that does it quite like you do.
More of this content!
If possible do f106 delta dart video
Just wondering why AWACs aren't targeted more often. It would seem like a very tactical advantage.
They’re usually very far behind the lines and have good cover.
I would like to start a firm that makes a much cheaper version of the AMRAAM for the dod
More of this, please.
I can’t wait for the aim 260 to loaded into the F-22 Raptor in a couple months
Awesome video, Growling🥹
Really good video !!! I loved it
PPPPPFFFFFFFF 🤣 I spit my drink out when you said assram! lol
Meteor says "hi"
liked that video a lot! i would not mind more videos of this type from you !
Very nice review. Well done, Sir! Keep up creating those awesome fun videos.
Love the info.
"ASRAAM" snicker.
Well if amraam got success in India then the R73 too got the PAF F16...
AMRAAM didn't need to get success here, it already got it well before as he even mentions in the video....
Also he was talking about the M/LRAAMs, like the AMRAAM(Subject of this video) and the R-77. Not the SRAAMs or HOBS missiles like the R-73 and AIM-9X.
Either a Su-30 or F-16 was shot down. Only a poor mig 21
I've read reports in the 80s that there are some Phoenix missle that have been 120+. Again, no real confirm other then some navy pilots talking. We'll never know will we?
Did he say , Assram? Lmao
I think during the Indian Pakistani standoff. The Indian airforce presented a radar picture of the AWACS showing that no su30mki got shot down. Also no wreckage of an su30mki was shown
Radar picture was shown for proving the irrefutable kill on a PAF F-16, not for proving that our own Su-30MKIs weren't shot down considering we flew the same 'kill', that Pakistan claimed so, during the same year to debunk such misleading claims.
Sparrow as only 12 miles? I remember playing the DOS plane sim Birds of Prey and it had a range of like 60 miles, I think? I guess that's not the definitive source tho lol
Lol I’m gonna go ahead and bet that the sparrow can’t touch anything at 60miles out.
No price tag for missile. Let me guess millions of dollars per missile (5 milion
Very good history lesson! 👍🏾
Ass ram huh what a name. Kinda like the B1-R or bone R
But second to meteor.
Can we get a viggen vs f4 phantom
Only bad thing about it is that it's named an uninspired military acronym
What happened to cool missile names like Sidewinder, Phoenix, and Maverick?
a good point, there is a nickname for it tho, the "slammer"
ASRAAM 😂😂😂😂, I had to play that back 4x
I thought the Bison was an M-4 Soviet bomber
Europe developed the ASSRAM???? OOOOOOOOOK.
I was playing a flight sim 20+ years ago called F/A18 Interceptor on an Amiga A500. At the time I would generally use the AIM-9(L)?Sidewinders, as they were a lot better at hitting their target than the AMRAAMs provided.
Why did the US drop the ASRAAM?
Cool vid but the missile wasn't compared to its main compeditors though
nop meteor is the best at this moment
but one has to ask...if the ramjet was soooo good...why would the us cancel its own ramjet amraam variant? the aim152 ?
It's really easy to just say one is better than the other. The problem with making such claims, is that the amraam is actually battle proven
@@GrowlingSidewinder I can think of 3 possible answers: 1. budget cuts 2. good ol' corruption 3. it actually sucked
@@GrowlingSidewinder I don't know... I'm thinking either costs or they wanted something simpler and with less mantainance.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Costs and remember F22 program was scaled back. Also what if Aim260 is a ramjet design?
Well said. AM-120 is the one of the best A2A missile in the world. There are other ones like PL-15, Meteor, R-77 etc. But ehh... Meteor is very good, but never ever downed an aircraft. So we dont know how good it is. Same applies to the PL-15. I have no idea about the Russian R-77. On paper you can find interesting informations about these missiles, but in reality only 1 proved itself and it is the AIM 120.
One of the worlds best but not the best.
AMRAAM is retiring and there are quite a few US missiles due soon to replace AMRAAM, and AIM-9X