Rolex vs Omega vs Tudor vs Breitling vs Seiko | The Best Dive Watch Ever

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  • @stevieb1505
    @stevieb1505 Год назад +393

    Doesn’t matter the brand, quality or value the best dive watch is the one that you yourself have chosen and love and sits proudly on your wrist.

  • @Augustus_Imperator
    @Augustus_Imperator Год назад +154

    Let's be real here, Omega deserves at least an 8 in iconic and history, maybe 9 too, it's around at the olympics, it's on James Bond's wrist, it's the brand of the moonwatch and I've seen the seamaster 300 on people like Gordon Ramsay, it's not Rolex but it's no Tudor/Breitling either.

    • @pacocandano
      @pacocandano Год назад +16

      Also, a humble midsized quartz Omega SMP (which I own and love) is on Prince William’s wrist ever since Lady Di gave it to him as a teenager. The future King of England has worn and will continue wearing it for decades.

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 Год назад +5

      Rolex is the original Bond watch. Omega were 40 years late to the Bond party. Hamilton, Seiko and even Gruen have a longer history with Bond than Omega.

    • @Omega34685
      @Omega34685 Год назад +18

      Daniel Craig would kick Connery’s ass and Craig wears Omega so THERE! 😂

    • @j.q.higgins2245
      @j.q.higgins2245 Год назад +9

      @@Omega34685 Wasn't Craig the one for whom an Aston had to be converted to automatic transmission, not to mention his passion for life jackets? 😏

    • @shiraz1736
      @shiraz1736 Год назад +5

      If there was form function the Omega wart gets a -3 and the slippery bezel another -3.

  • @harleydavidson4139
    @harleydavidson4139 Год назад +35

    I dive. I am not going to dive with a watch that cost more than my boat. Lets be realistic, I don't guess people that would pay Submariner $, dry suit dive in the Great lakes...Seiko is the best watch for those pursuits, it works fine, and I am not going cry over it getting damaged.

    • @eastbaystreet1242
      @eastbaystreet1242 Год назад +2

      Agree. For a day on Lake Michigan I take my little buddy Arnie. For dinner that night I may wear some man-bling in my Bluesy, which apparently also confirms my Boomer-ness. Cry me a river. I could look at the blue on that dial for days. Work as hard as I have and buy what you want. But I do love my Seikos where applicable (task/use case).

    • @Vate13
      @Vate13 3 месяца назад +1

      Casio

  • @larryp.450
    @larryp.450 Год назад +17

    I have purchased and used various Divers during my lifetime, starting with a Seiko 6309 I bought in '76 to take SCUBA lessons while in high school. In 1990, I purchased an Omega Seamaster 200 Pre-Bond and used it for quite some, until acquiring a Rolex Submariner in 2001. Along the way, I have purchased other Divers including a Certina, Vaer, and Lorus, but when I head out to for a long hike or go near water, I wear my trusted, rugged, and beloved Seiko.

  • @Sirleopard666
    @Sirleopard666 Год назад +9

    I think is necessary to include a column named, "will you dare to use it in real field conditions?" . Rolex 0, Seiko 20

  • @jacobjones6678
    @jacobjones6678 Год назад +54

    Blancpain Fifty Fathoms is my favorite regardless of cost, my dream dive watch, I hope they come out with a standard model in 42mm or better yet in 40mm.

    • @juniorjohnson5961
      @juniorjohnson5961 Год назад +9

      Agree 40mm no date & I'm in 🎉

    • @jkorengo
      @jkorengo Год назад +8

      @@juniorjohnson5961 I will keep commenting this on their instagram page every time they release some stupid new limited edition until they eventually cave in

    • @fahadkhan-db6bh
      @fahadkhan-db6bh Год назад +5

      @@jkorengo many have tried before, stubborn old folks at Le Brassus I’m afraid 😄
      But hey keep at it, with you 100%

    • @lcowboy8918
      @lcowboy8918 Год назад +4

      Me too, but they just keep missing the mark and making the same mistakes over and over again. No one wants a 46mm dive watch. If they made their large watches in 40mm they would sell them all day long.

    • @jacobjones6678
      @jacobjones6678 Год назад +2

      I need to start hitting the gym to get wrists like Sylvester Stallone. The Fifty Fathoms lifestyle.

  • @seanhickling7340
    @seanhickling7340 Год назад +31

    Definitely the Omega. The sub is definitely not value it's so overpriced! Even at retail price it's 5k too much.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo Год назад +1

      Why? Have you ever taken the time to handle one closely? The engineering, finishing and overall feel are impeccable. I love my Seamaster 300, but it feels nowhere near as well-made as my sub. The price difference is directly apparent when you view them next to each other.

  • @geishasha
    @geishasha Год назад +18

    'Usefulness when diving' cruelly overlooked.

    • @Les_Grossman
      @Les_Grossman Год назад +3

      Dont think so.. I am sure everybody diving these days uses a dive computer anyways - at least most diver I know do 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @tartari13
    @tartari13 Год назад +66

    I'm a diver. I own an Oris Aquis Depth gauge. I was thrilled to find out that, despite buying it because I loved the" uncomplicated" complication, it turned out to be an ACTUAL useful and important feature during my recent dives. Sometimes you don't dive very deep, some schools do not offer a computer as part of the rental gear so you only have the PSI gauge and need to keep track of your bottom diving times. Yes you can buy a computer for a fraction of the cost and get much more accuracy but, for recreational diving, that's just another thing to remember to pack. Keep it safe and simple with analog! Oris all the way!

  • @chgofirefighter
    @chgofirefighter Год назад +24

    IMO Omega is king, why? It's available, it does not cost you an arm and a leg, iconic, beautifully made, quality is an outstanding, awesome mechanism, it's truly a fantastic watch. I have Tudors, Omegas, Panerai, Oris, and a few other mechanical watches and to me, Omega outshines all of my watches with a close second to my Tudor which people always ask me what am I wearing and they're surprised that it's not a Rolex...

    • @TerraThink
      @TerraThink Год назад +1

      Omega is great. Just have a design that feels a bit too modern to me as a Tudor-fan :)

    • @chgofirefighter
      @chgofirefighter Год назад +1

      @@TerraThink love my Omega & Tudor’s….

  • @johnrand9799
    @johnrand9799 Год назад +71

    As a professional diver, if i was choosing a watch to take diving I would pick the Seiko. I would have loved to see Doxa and Blancpain included in the rating. (Doxa would have scored 10 in Iconic, street cred and History - Cheers!

    • @cos-9113
      @cos-9113 Год назад +14

      Yeah, how do you even think of including Breitling and leave out Doxa (and Blancpain)? Breitling would be one of the last added to a dive watch list.

    • @jjsierraalta
      @jjsierraalta Год назад +4

      I agree! Doxa300

    • @kaseycarpenter73
      @kaseycarpenter73 Год назад +6

      Blancpain for the win

    • @glennet9613
      @glennet9613 Год назад +12

      @@kaseycarpenter73 Old saying, if you want to impress the barman buy a Rolex, if you want to impress the dive master buy a Seiko.

    • @kaseycarpenter73
      @kaseycarpenter73 Год назад +3

      @@glennet9613 Yes. My first dive watch, when I was a kid was a Casio AMW 320R-9EV - wore it and dived it to death in Belize in the 90's. First watch I ever really loved.

  • @thetruebatman4632
    @thetruebatman4632 Год назад +72

    I’d happily wear any of those watches, but I can’t think of any cooler watch than that Seamaster 300 Professional. The scalloped bezel is so unique, the laser engraved dial is eye catching, the hands are perfect, and it’s a 300m diver with a sapphire case back which is super impressive in itself. Add the Bond connection, and the fact that it’s half the price of the Sub… The only weakness is that bracelet; it’s very 90’s looking. If one day I ever do something worth really rewarding myself for, i’ll buy the Seamaster.

    • @Scott.not.Scotty
      @Scott.not.Scotty Год назад +4

      i just picked up the seamaster 300m with a white dial and black rubber strap and its amazing. i have small wrists and its comfortable and stylish and even more stunning in person. i would absolutely recommend im still in awe.

    • @balestinian
      @balestinian Год назад +3

      I think your perfectly right about that bracelet, it's the cheapest feeling part on that watch, or else it woulda been perfect

    • @SonOvaSon
      @SonOvaSon Год назад +4

      Omega has a stainless steel Milanese bracelet for it as a hidden option, it’s pretty pricey though and the deployment clasp on it is pretty thick but it is the best looking option IMO

    • @Thecrispykid
      @Thecrispykid Год назад +1

      Take the plunge and pay for it over a year if you can’t afford it right now. You won’t regret it. I own everyone of these accept the submariner. But I have a Pelagos. But when I get the call I will be marching right down there to pick it up.

    • @teecchnoboy
      @teecchnoboy 7 месяцев назад

      I got a 2020 planet ocean much better than a regular 300m seamaster better quality much better bracelet and 8900 calibre movement

  • @villemuilu5663
    @villemuilu5663 Год назад +46

    I think the Seamaster deserves to be higher in the score.

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 Год назад +3

      Nah. It has a tacky design and was lucky to get a quality score higher than the sub which just isn’t true if you have owned both.

    • @villemuilu5663
      @villemuilu5663 Год назад +5

      @@explorerjlc1743 You must be joking

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 Год назад +3

      @@villemuilu5663 have you had both ?... also, the Sub's design is more timeless. The Seamaster line's design has changed so much throughout Omega's history. The SMP design language looks like it's aging poorly again. However, I would give credit to the PO. That watch retains Omegas DNA better and is a watch I regret selling. Would be keen on getting a future model that is hopefully thinner.

    • @villemuilu5663
      @villemuilu5663 Год назад +1

      No i don't have submariner. That's because I really don't want to pay nearly 14,000 euros for a basic stainless steel submariner. For comparison, I paid 3900 euros for my Omega Seamaster in 2019.

    • @explorerjlc1743
      @explorerjlc1743 Год назад +3

      @@villemuilu5663 yeah. Well if you get one you will know what I’m talking about.

  • @BryanO92
    @BryanO92 Год назад +9

    You're killing me. A $12,000 watch is rated 7 for value. I mean the residuals are good at the moment at least, but it's *$12,000*. For not much more, you could get a Lange!

  • @akdmkjeanius662
    @akdmkjeanius662 Год назад +18

    Would love to see this in other watch categories! You could also do this as a bracket, and put several other iconic watches head-to-head and then have a matchup of all of the winners in an ultimate showdown. People go crazy over brackets and tiers! Plus it gives you the ability to give more opinions about other watches that don't come up in everyday conversations or can even be lumped into price categories. Rolex will trump Doxa, Cristopher Ward, Oris, etc., but different niche markets offer more realistic pieces that we can actually acquire

  • @pacheaco727
    @pacheaco727 Год назад +23

    Would love to see this for other categories. Field watch, chrono, etc.

    • @alwayspooh1588
      @alwayspooh1588 Год назад +1

      Good idea. For field, it has to be the Hamilton Khaki Field. For the Chronograph, hmmm, I am not sure. Daytona maybe?

  • @garyoshea2171
    @garyoshea2171 Год назад +4

    I wear my 25 year old Seamaster every day I’m a tradesman and it gets a hammering, only serviced it twice yet still keeps perfect time.

  • @kevinhan721
    @kevinhan721 Год назад +15

    LOVE this ranking content! Can learn so much about different watches and perspectives in a scale rather than just listening talking for hours. Please do more of this in racing watches or dress watches and other watch categories as well!

  • @MeestroDavid
    @MeestroDavid Год назад +57

    I'd have loved to see Seiko represented by one of their higher-quality divers (Marine Masters, a 62MAS from the SLA-line, etc) that are still more affordable than anything on the list save for the Tudor, and easily equal or best the quality of anything else there.

    • @TheSugarshane78
      @TheSugarshane78 Год назад +4

      They did say "wild card," and the value aspect + history of the original Seiko Diver makes for a tough combination to beat. That said, I'd have almost rather seen the Propex LX go up against watches in a similar price point, but with a Spring Drive.

    • @urbannomad8126
      @urbannomad8126 Год назад +5

      I own a sub 40mm, a sub date 41mm, the same omega, the same seiko but with grey dial and an SLA055… the sla is my favorite to wear.

    • @LegendaryGauntlet
      @LegendaryGauntlet Год назад +2

      I would also have included the Seiko Marine Master, probably in SLA version in order to match the price range of other watches in this comparison. The case is exceptional and SLA movement holds up against that competition.

    • @MeestroDavid
      @MeestroDavid Год назад +4

      @@urbannomad8126 Likewise--I have an SLA043 and it's by far the most versatile (and therefore more worn) watch I have. The dial and case finishing is well beyond anything on this list, the "ever-brilliant steel" seems to be unscratchable, the design is classic, and at 39mm, it's meaty but compact. It's far less expensive than the Rolex, Omega, and Breitling but hand-finished to a higher standard than any of them, so the value is extraordinary. And I get that "street cred" is totally subjective, but Rolex and Omega are such common mainstream picks for anyone looking to buy a luxury watch-whether they are enthusiasts or just looking to strap a status symbol on their wrists-that I'd always give the credibility nod to the person rocking the watch that quietly communicates its value to the owner and other passionate watch-nerds instead of merely broadcasting its price to strangers.

    • @Bobby-fj8mk
      @Bobby-fj8mk Год назад +1

      I have a Seiko 200m Divers watch with day and date.
      It was always going to be the best value for money.
      I don't see why a Rolex would work any better.

  • @SIZZO76
    @SIZZO76 Год назад +11

    Omega SEAMASTER is a iconic 🔥

  • @ivandean1
    @ivandean1 Год назад +8

    Doxa and Blacpain are missing. Much better fit than Breitling or to certain extent Tudor (cheaper Rolex). Have Seiko diver since mid late 80s (with over 300 dives) and it still works great. Yes, everyone wants Rolex, but for diving, Seiko or Doxa any day.

  • @3082103
    @3082103 Год назад +32

    you are forgetting that Omega was the first Royal Navy proper diver watch with the 165.024 (1967-1970) then they used the 5513/17 Rolex (1971-1974) after the Omega. And Rolex was asked to do sword hands and fully graduated bezel like the Omega. so Omega should get a 10 in History, and 8 in street cred!

    • @JackoWillMakeLives-loveu
      @JackoWillMakeLives-loveu Год назад +8

      Bring that street cred down to a 6 for selling a plastic watch

    • @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
      @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 Год назад +1

      @@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu 😂😂

    • @peterdoubleyouz
      @peterdoubleyouz Год назад +2

      They released a plastic overpriced watch which sold out immediately. Sounds like pretty high cred to me...

    • @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
      @tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 Год назад +1

      @@peterdoubleyouz super great plastic pieces because they sold ?

    • @ES-tr5no
      @ES-tr5no Год назад +1

      How make Omega a 10 because they have never had to buy up their suppliers to call themselves a watchmaker.

  • @blueducst4
    @blueducst4 Год назад +14

    The sole reason I chose the SuperOcean over the Tudor and Omega is the sizes available. My wrist is quite large. The 46mm SuperOcean on my wrist, looks like a 41mm on most wrists. This along with the relatively thin case compared to other watches in this size range made it perfect for me. Being able to get 42, 44, and 46 is a huge bonus only available with the Breitling.

    • @javahaxxor
      @javahaxxor Год назад

      The Superocean is a really nice one, even the old one

    • @robertposteschild2353
      @robertposteschild2353 Год назад

      @@javahaxxor superocean is overpriced as fuck

    • @yhakult
      @yhakult Год назад

      How big is your wrist? I really like the omega but my wrists are 8 inches

    • @blueducst4
      @blueducst4 Год назад

      @@yhakult my wrist is 8-3/4”.

  • @mickd4610
    @mickd4610 Год назад +5

    Diver watches are the best! I love my Omega PO. The best thing about all dive watches are that they are over engineered and solid.

  • @bber45
    @bber45 Год назад +8

    Agree. Missing the 50 Fathoms. Ultimate bad ass diver. But, I would swap Rolex Sub and Omega Seamaster places. When the 93/94 Seamaster came out it had a milled clasp and the solid/milled tank tread bracelet. The sub at the time (which I owned) was a sheet metal clasp and hollow end links. It was garbage compared to the seamaster and made rolex change their bracelet to what we know and love today. That be accounted for in the scores and history.

  • @carlmullender2941
    @carlmullender2941 Год назад +8

    I'm sitting here with a Seiko SPB 143 on my wrist so I am biased, it would have been nice to include "diveability" into your categories, as in would you dive with it, how is the strap under water, can you move th ebezel with cold fingers etc ! Otherwise, brilliant concept , hope you can do more categories 🙂

  • @Chrissepisje
    @Chrissepisje Год назад +4

    I love the sarcasm. Nicely done. Firstly, if this had been a Seiko 6105-8000 or 8110, it would have scored higher in both history and in terms of Street cred.
    Secondly, the best tool watch is one that I can get, can afford, one I am not afraid to wear, one that won't get knicked and one that will take the abuse. That could be an EcoZilla, an SKX, an Uemura, a Mako, an Arnie, a Sumo, a Fugu, a Barnacle, a Ray, a Turtle, a 62MAS, an Aqualand, an Orca, or any Tuna, be it Darth, Emperor, Baby, or a regular one.
    In short, the best dive watches are the domain of Citizen, Seiko, Orient and, if you're strapped for cash, a Casio Duro. All the rest are more for the pose than the ride. You give them too much Street cred. Collector's cred, Investor's creed and Street cred are vastly different things, you see.

  • @Mr_Shelby2
    @Mr_Shelby2 Год назад +11

    You could turn it into a series. Great concept. Nice video.

  • @franciscos.3671
    @franciscos.3671 Год назад +9

    Surprisely for me I vote for Seiko

  • @robitobi9740
    @robitobi9740 Год назад +4

    Omega as iconic absolutely 9 and quality 9 too especially vs Breitling . History of Omega as diver is longer than Rolex ,maybe Seamaster is not but Omega as Diver it is . Value 1 point higher!!!

  • @Mmmmilo
    @Mmmmilo Год назад +25

    I’ve got several dive watches, and they all have certain appeal, but my 124060 Submariner is still the absolute epitome. It looks good with EVERYTHING. It’s built like a tank. The oyster bracelet is iconic. Every time I slip it on, I get a big smile on my face.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 Год назад +3

      I agree

    • @whatsgoodmyguy4391
      @whatsgoodmyguy4391 Год назад

      I hate bracelets...I'd rather have the option to go with a rubber strap much lighter and more comfortable.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo Год назад +4

      @@whatsgoodmyguy4391 so buy a rubber strap, easy fix 👍

    • @whatsgoodmyguy4391
      @whatsgoodmyguy4391 Год назад +1

      @@Mmmmilo Lol. Yeah except you can't just put a rubber strap on a Rolex chief.

    • @4liter
      @4liter Год назад

      I have a 126610LV and the SM300 on the rubber. The perfect diver pair IMO. Seamaster bracelets are 🗑️ very true that the modern oyster bracelet is absolutely unbeatable.

  • @paulgreen3270
    @paulgreen3270 Год назад +2

    Andrew and Tom you guys never fail to make me chuckle! Good work as per usual!!

  • @billcore6295
    @billcore6295 Год назад +7

    I think the seamaster has a 9 on street credibility, history, and value. 😊 Rolex is not a 10 on iconic but 8 in my opinion. Omega had dive like watch in 1932

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo Год назад +2

      You think the most iconic and recognizable dive watch ever made doesn’t deserve a 10 on the “iconic” scale? That’s some interesting logic right there 😂

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 Месяц назад

      @@MmmmiloOmega fanboys just butthurt

  • @MKGamingInvesting
    @MKGamingInvesting Год назад +4

    Bro Omega Seamaster History or iconic has to be higher

  • @clintonshiells3095
    @clintonshiells3095 Год назад +4

    Would have been perhaps more interesting to compare one of the Seiko SLA diver models which rival GS finishing and use unregulated, undecorated GS movements, but are super appealing to us Seiko diehard fans

  • @billspruce8368
    @billspruce8368 Год назад +6

    I think this order is generally correct, but you have short-changed Omega a couple points... 1 on street cred and 1 on iconic... still second but it should be more than 1-point ahead of seiko.

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 Год назад +2

      Omega lost any street cred it had with its cringey 007 marketing.

  • @j.q.higgins2245
    @j.q.higgins2245 Год назад +17

    When it comes to history and iconicness, we shouldn't ignore the fact that both, the Sub and the Tudor, as well as the Seiko, have still remained pretty much true to their initial designs, while the Seamaster 300 and the Super Ocean have changed beyond recognition - which, I think, is a pity and a bit like comparing a Land Rover Defender to the New Mini.

    • @truthserum9157
      @truthserum9157 Год назад

      I couldn’t disagree with you more, it’s about innovation not stagnation, the end results and quality is all that matters, just look at our fighter jets, none of them look like ones from 60’s or 70’s.

  • @maltrhythm105
    @maltrhythm105 Год назад +2

    Choosing a dive watch without mentioning a Pelagos that has the best lume and bracelet on the market? Big minus to you.

  • @jockdodson9093
    @jockdodson9093 Год назад +7

    I do love the modern Seamaster but, the 1957 Seamaster is not the same as the Seamaster 300 you are showing here. Great content as always gentlemen.

  • @1996Egr
    @1996Egr Год назад +3

    Great Concept with the scoring - Next up - Best Chronograph, Best Pilot, Best GMT

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 Год назад +3

    Not a fair competition, you should have put the grand Seiko dive watch which is in the same brackets.

  • @man16812
    @man16812 Год назад +6

    Omega SMP 300 for me. Beautiful and tough as hell.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 Год назад +2

      I agree

    • @TheBrah808
      @TheBrah808 Год назад

      Metas is life

    • @man16812
      @man16812 Год назад

      @@TheBrah808 Master Chronometer!

  • @Kermit26297
    @Kermit26297 Год назад +10

    Fun video. You guys are great. I’ve recently been into Breitling (picking up the Superocean Heritage a few weeks ago) so it’s no surprise that the Superocean would have been at the top of my list. The others are similar in design, which isn’t necessarily bad as it’s an iconic dive watch design, but I really like how the Superocean took a different route. And yea, the colors scream surfing and California. 🏄

    • @Hectic1991
      @Hectic1991 Год назад +2

      I feel that if they'd picked the heritage model it would have scored much higher.

    • @Kermit26297
      @Kermit26297 Год назад +1

      @@Hectic1991 Yeah they definitely handicapped that pick!

    • @nash9625
      @nash9625 Год назад

      How has your Superocean been treating you? I have to admit they've been growing on me, probably Kelly Slater's fault, but saw some less than stellar accuracy reports previously.

    • @Kermit26297
      @Kermit26297 Год назад +1

      @@nash9625 I’ve had it for exactly three weeks and the time is, to the minute, aligned with my Apple Watch. Thus, accuracy is spot-on. And two days ago a guy stopped me in the store and asked what watch I was wearing and went on to say how beautiful it was. :) That doesn’t happens too often no matter which watch you’re wearing. I’ve worn it every day and have absolutely no regrets. Highly recommended. 👍🏼

    • @nash9625
      @nash9625 Год назад

      @@Kermit26297 nice, yeah their play to surfer marketing totally worked on me. That and I don't see them very often

  • @geetarz1
    @geetarz1 Год назад +3

    Growing up reading the James Bond books, Rolex was the watch I wanted. When I was in a position to finally buy a new Submariner (some years ago, when you actually could), it was a case of don’t meet your heroes ☹️ Ended up walking out with a bi-metal Wimbledon Datejust II - the Submariner was too small and too uncomfortable. After finally getting one on my wrist, I had no idea what the fuss was about

  • @MS-sy8ls
    @MS-sy8ls Год назад +11

    Great video. I’m a huge dive watch fan!
    It’s all personal opinion, but for me the Omega Planet Ocean is far far superior to the standard Seamaster.
    Great vid - keep it up!

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo Год назад +1

      The planet ocean wears so big, though! I don’t love the bracelet on my Seamaster, but the watch itself is a stunner. My ideal Seamaster would have the PO bracelet.

    • @michaelg8258
      @michaelg8258 Год назад +1

      Agreed. And as for wearability, the 39.5mm PO is perfect on my 17cm/6.75in wrist. Nice heft, but in the best possible way.

  • @chriso5963
    @chriso5963 Год назад +2

    I laughed throughout the whole video. Thanks, Andrew and Tom, I always enjoy your videos. Maybe you could do more videos like this with GMTs and other categories.

  • @nullifye7816
    @nullifye7816 Год назад +2

    I like the look of the Breitling more than I thought. The square hand accent and the internal timer bezel really tie it all together.

  • @petee1968
    @petee1968 Год назад +1

    As a recreational scuba diver, I have an Omega Seamaster Chronograph that I had years before I was interested in watches. That thing is heavy, the bezel is difficult to operate with wet hands and the bracelet is not sufficiently adjustable even with the wetsuit extension. But for years it was my only dive watch and it’s been on well over 200 dives and it bears the scars and scratches with aplomb.
    Nowadays I wear a dive computer, but I also wear a Seiko Kinetic PADI GMT Diver SUN065P1. It’s also a beast, but it’s basically indestructible and I know I depend on it as a backup. It also wears a rubber strap, which is the only strap I wear diving these days. The only other watch I occasionally wear diving is an orange dialled DOXA, because an orange dial is highly legible underwater, and because DOXA’s adjustable bracelet is leagues ahead of everything else.

  • @Th3m4dn3ss
    @Th3m4dn3ss Год назад +3

    You missed a category, do divers actually dive with it that would change the score dramatically

    • @garyjohn1956
      @garyjohn1956 Год назад

      Can’t agree more. I don’t dive but have friends that do and they wear wrist computers not watches with movable bezels and escape valves. Love dive watches, have a BB and Seiko and more, they’re great in the pool while on holiday.

  • @guggyp
    @guggyp Год назад +2

    As a retired flight test engineer I can tell you Breitlings strength is in Aviation. Many of the Naval and Marine Aviators I worked with wore Breitling
    They sure didn’t wear Rolex GMTs
    ( and I’m a Rolex owner)

  • @justplainlawr
    @justplainlawr Год назад +2

    Add a negative score column for Boringness and then re-rank and I think you Omega and Breitling leapfrog the ones ahead of them. The value column based on RRP vs market price… I can’t say is properly evaluated

  • @aulbraealexanderzamora1948
    @aulbraealexanderzamora1948 Год назад +4

    Its funny that you rate Seiko with the lowest quality, but Seiko will outlast all the watches here.

  • @SomeOneOneOne
    @SomeOneOneOne Год назад +2

    Why 62MAS? I think mm300 was more of a competitior to Rowleks...

  • @sailphi
    @sailphi Год назад +1

    For Seko, I think you should have chosen a Prospex with the NH36 movement. My Turtle is my everyday watch because of the day/ date that neither my Rolex, nor my Omega have. That, to me, puts it in first place. I totally agree with your 11 for value because its so cheap to service compared to the other brands.
    My next watch will be a Roadmaster marine GMT. That watch pushes all my buttons.

  • @_DioBrando_
    @_DioBrando_ Год назад +2

    In my opinion, the best luxury dive watch ever is the Rolex SD4K. In terms of specs, dimensions, aesthetic and prestige I don't think it can be beat.

  • @jamestamu83
    @jamestamu83 Год назад +1

    Agree with your ranking 100%. Now I just need to save enough $$ to afford the Sub!

  • @charleschaimkohl
    @charleschaimkohl Год назад +2

    You should've had a category design

  • @arthurscargill8010
    @arthurscargill8010 Год назад +3

    I know this isn't meant to be taken too seriously which as just as well because it seems you accidentally only gave Seiko a 6 on history...

  • @SanderEvers
    @SanderEvers Год назад +2

    Rolex is great, but Seiko is more my price range. I have a nice Seiko Prospex diver with which I'm very happy.

  • @AS-po9pm
    @AS-po9pm Год назад +1

    As you do in a good tender you throw the first and the last out which leaves you with the Omega. Was clear before you started the whole thing.

  • @lyedavide
    @lyedavide Год назад +1

    I agree with your rankings. Seiko didn't just deserve the number 3 spot, it earned it. What is becoming evident is that traditional watches are being relegated to being fashion accessories. Serious diving requires specialised equipment, training and dive computers. So I think we need to accept that perceived appeal is a very important factor.

  • @Chris-mm5gi
    @Chris-mm5gi Год назад +2

    Love the video. Would love to see how you’d rate an Oris Aquis and Glashutte Original SEAQ with this pack.

  • @vyrv
    @vyrv Год назад +6

    I Personally think the Seiko SPB143 is more iconic than the Breitling Super Ocean but other than that, spot on with everything. Loved the comparisons

  • @nickbrooker1411
    @nickbrooker1411 Год назад +1

    I'm a diver.....the Pelagos 42 beats them all on just about everything from legibility, depth, bracelet, clasp, He Valve design and most importantly value!

  • @CTrillz
    @CTrillz Год назад +1

    History for Seiko in America in regards to the turtle and the crown at 3 diver models is, during the 60s-70s these watches surged in popularity with American Soldiers and risk takers of the newer recreational activity of scuba diving. Wearing them as an affordable and typically necessary tools of the trade. There is a decorated history of usage that in this list of brands Seiko out trumps except for Rolex. Seiko 8. Rolex 9 blancpan 10.

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG Год назад +2

    Looking at historic Submariner prices, I find it somewhat amusing that the Rolex used to (roughly) sit where that Seiko re-issue sits today. If I'd have to rank these five, I *guess* the Seiko would be at the top of my list. Not just for sheer cost, bang-per-buck and availability but because I wouldn't think twice about it getting banged around or scuffed up. I'd just wear it everywhere. Kinda like how one would've worn a Submariner when it was still offered (and priced) as a tool-watch.
    The other three leave me a bit "meh", TBH. Except for, maybe, the Tudor - but that one's a bit too much of a retro-design for me. I love retro-watches but I fear I'd grow tired of its looks at some point in the future. I think I'd rather have that 39mm Pelagos as an everyday luxury diver. The Breitling looks a bit like a micro-brand design (gives me Helm-vibes for some reason) plus it doesn't really tick all the boxes for a diver in this price-category. And despite having lived through the Brosnan-era and thus getting constantly bombarded with Omega product-placements, I've never warmed up to the Seamaster 300M. Dial and hands are too busy, case is too large and that pointless helium escape valve is just ugly. Plus it's trying way too hard to be different from the Sub - while constantly lusting after that Rolex street-cred.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 Год назад

      Tudor is overrated and overpriced

  • @scollyutube
    @scollyutube Год назад

    I've got 3 of those, 4 if I replace that Seiko with an SKX. The order seems spot on to me.
    Had my Sub 4 weeks, simple and solid is nice, and the most accurate of the lot too.
    I wouldn't have a Rolex as the top Chrono when you get round to that comparison though......😉

  • @michaelpaulos420
    @michaelpaulos420 Год назад

    What I like about the sub is the way it feels. That watches his mood as silk. By Omega on the other hand is a great watch. I just have a very nice talk with Tara and 38.5. However I almost always wear my sub. It just feels so good. I usually wear the Omega when I'm going out though ,for fear of theft.

  • @caktaylor
    @caktaylor Год назад +1

    I’m wearing my Seiko SPB147 as I watch this. Great watch!

  • @clivenaylor
    @clivenaylor Год назад +1

    Zodiac super sea wolf 53 ,oris divers 65 and doxa sub 300 rado captain cook should be added to the list PS i have all on your list and mine and my choice would be the BB58.

  • @manot87
    @manot87 Год назад +1

    Would have loved seeing more objective criterias beeing part of the ranking, like power reserve, anti-magnetisme, precision of the movement, quality of the lume etc. This felt more like a collection of your own feelings and opinions. A lot of points go towards the more arbitrary categories for which there are no measures besides your own opinions. Take those away and the whole ranking changes.

  • @Chenxi_love_music_fairy
    @Chenxi_love_music_fairy Год назад

    This video is very helpful and a real comparison. I have Rolex, Tudor and Seiko dive watches. However I like my Tudor pelagos 39 most and it is the best diver watch to me.

  • @diablokat
    @diablokat Год назад +2

    Why didn’t you test a Grand Seiko at the same level of the others?

  • @MrEricErejo
    @MrEricErejo Год назад

    Loved this! Do more of this with other watch categories

  • @samadkariyaniya196
    @samadkariyaniya196 Год назад +1

    I would say the Tudor Black bay 58 is the best one among all as if you want an entry level Swiss diver with history, good build quality, good water resistance and close to 3000 pounds. That the best one to get

  • @anthonykelhen7048
    @anthonykelhen7048 Год назад +2

    The quality of the ETA-Breitling rated higher than the Rolex? Come on guys…

  • @PapriceP
    @PapriceP Год назад +2

    7 for Submariner quality? Is this some kind of revelry?

  • @normang663
    @normang663 Год назад

    Can someone tell me what is that tudor with date window ? I thought they dont make blackbays with a date window, thaaanks

  • @powerplay.556
    @powerplay.556 9 месяцев назад

    Very entertaining video. Loved it!
    I also love the scorecard approach, but the attributes you used are horrible.
    I use these:
    - History/Tradition
    - Brand reputation (ok, street cred)
    - Overall look/Aesthetics
    - Comfort (so important)
    - Quality/Features (e.g. movement, power reserve, depth rating, complications, transparent case back, lume…)
    - Price (relative to my own price sensitivity)
    The total score is ‘value’ so it shouldn’t be an attribute. ‘Iconic’ is a combination of your ‘history’ and ‘street cred.’
    Anyway, I use my six point scorecard and have a (subjectively) handy collection.
    Sky Dweller (blue dial) (2020)
    Sea Dweller 43 (2022)
    Planet Ocean 43.5mm (rubber strap) (2020)
    Ultra Deep (rubber strap) (2023)
    Polaris (rubber strap) (2023)
    Did a refresh over time. Had a JLC Master Compressor World Alarm (2009), Hublot Big Bang Unico (2014), Blancpain Bathyscaphe (2020) and Tudor Pelagos (2018). Terrible resale for all of them (I buy new), except the Pelagos I made money. Bang for buck crazy good, but I couldn’t put it back on after acquiring the big brother.
    BTW, part of the street cred with Omega is its association with the Olympics. Agree, the Bond thing is embarrassing.
    Excuse my indulgence, but we’re all watch nerds, right? I can also say I genuinely love watches for their history, craftsmanship and engineering. Flex has very little to do with it and we know 99/100 people on the street have zero clue and zero interest.

  • @paulsymonds820
    @paulsymonds820 Год назад +2

    Erm….in my opinion the Seiko doesn’t compare to the Breitling or Tudor but totally agree that the Rolex Submariner is by far the best diver and still remains the benchmark for all dive watches.

  • @andrewgee2775
    @andrewgee2775 Год назад +1

    How about a chronograph comparison next? Love the content guys. Cheers

  • @malyu6374
    @malyu6374 Год назад +2

    Sort of agree, but why not Grand Seiko in the list? Or at least the LX series.

  • @seanelstob5922
    @seanelstob5922 Год назад +1

    Seamaster ‘Iconic’ & ‘Street Cred’ scores should be higher than a 7. 7? Seven? SEVEN? Come on now.

  • @MerlintheMaineCoon
    @MerlintheMaineCoon Год назад +1

    The Pelagos 42 is the best diver. Period.

  • @Huwberts_Emporium
    @Huwberts_Emporium Год назад +1

    Odd choice of Seiko diver chaps, whilst I do own and love the 1965 re-issue (SPB143) it doesn't compete with the other watches in your line up, it's more in line with something entry level like a Certina, ORIS, Squale, Tissot etc. You should have put up the Seiko Marinemaster (SLA021, SLA023 etc) and you'd have a better representation of Seiko's ability to make a premium diver and compete with some of these Swiss luxury tools.

  • @rayalix
    @rayalix Год назад

    I wasn't sure about the Street Cred category when talking about dive watches, if you remove that column the Seiko goes into 4th place above the Breitling.

  • @ryangochuico
    @ryangochuico Год назад +1

    Should've put a marinemaster 300 in there for the seiko. But it being 3rd is about right

  • @raycollington4310
    @raycollington4310 Год назад +11

    I never wear my Submariner anymore. The whole Rolex marketing fiasco and risk of theft, has somewhat made me embarrassed to be associated with them.
    Good bit of 🎉 this one, thank you.

    • @alexzim79
      @alexzim79 Год назад +3

      I'm with you. I never wear my Submariner either. But that's mostly due to the fact that I don't own one :'(...

    • @justmitko6679
      @justmitko6679 Год назад

      I am afraid to wear Rolex too.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo Год назад +3

      I always struggle to believe these types of comments. “Marketing fiasco”? What are you even talking about?

    • @raycollington4310
      @raycollington4310 Год назад

      @@Mmmmilo I guess I'm referring to people I know who have so-called special relationships with Rolex AD's and are able to continually buy sort after models, when the guy off the street who would like to buy his first Rolex is given the cold shoulder and clearly not welcome.
      You've lucky if you live in a part of the world where this practice does not occur.

    • @Mmmmilo
      @Mmmmilo Год назад +2

      @@raycollington4310 that’s… that’s just how luxury works. Literally everywhere. Loyal customers are prioritized. Are you also going to call frequent flyer programs “marketing fiascos”?

  • @truebluemiata
    @truebluemiata Год назад

    Thanks guys for another fun horological romp. I think however that you missed the boat with your choice of the Seiko entry. The brand would have been better represented with the usual dark horse Grand Seiko. With a titanium case and choice of Hi Beat and Spring Drive movements the GS would have given the Sub a serious run for the money, especially when you include Seiko's huge history of divers in the scoring IMO.

  • @haxonwax2006
    @haxonwax2006 Год назад

    Dudes great video. I agree you probably could have gotten to the same result without the scoring but it made the journey more interesting. Hope you do similar for other similar watch styles (GMT, Pilot, etc).

  • @bernardhossmoto
    @bernardhossmoto Год назад

    I just ordered the Seamaster Chronograph in Blue-Grey.

  • @Ritzkraqa_85
    @Ritzkraqa_85 Год назад

    Would have loved to see how the GO SeaQ stacked up with these legendary divers as well.

  • @RogueDroid
    @RogueDroid Год назад +2

    Did you guys test these "dive watches" before rating..? Test them for what they're made for?

  • @jonathanraven5939
    @jonathanraven5939 Год назад

    I own an Omega Seamaster and it’s a fantastic watch, but in Australia Omega is totally let down by their service. My watch was damaged by them and they blamed me for it. I sent it to them because the winder was stuck, they repaired it and sent it back to me with a scratch on the inside of the crystal.

  • @DrGraaff
    @DrGraaff Год назад +1

    Such an awesome idea for a video.
    Please do more like this.

  • @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
    @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Год назад +2

    Ah the winner, the Seiko, way better looking, no idiotic bling, practical.

  • @RaghavHari
    @RaghavHari Год назад

    Andrew & Tom, this was simply brilliant and hilarious at the same time!!😂🎉👏🏻😇👍🏻

  • @darkeye77
    @darkeye77 Год назад +1

    I’m trying to decide if I want a black bay 58 or a seamaster, so this is very relevant. Given that you scored the Omega higher, why did you buy the Tudor for yourself?

    • @dirkzzzzz4745
      @dirkzzzzz4745 Год назад +2

      Black bay 58 every day

    • @monsieurbennett
      @monsieurbennett Год назад +4

      Cheaper and better value that’s why. Also the Tudor manages to look vintage without being dated. The Omega looks like a 90s relic.

  • @drnick40
    @drnick40 Год назад

    I immensely enjoy my Glashutte Original SeaQ. I dare to make a point that the quality of this watch is better than the one mentioned in this video, and therefore hugely unappreciated.

  • @iansilva1362
    @iansilva1362 Год назад

    Wow I have Spb143, Tudor Gmt, Onega seamaster happy to have that three on the list.