TEST: Should you pressure wash FIRST? Or foam first?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Is foam just "for show?" Or does foaming Incredible Suds (our pH neutral car shampoo) FIRST make a tangible difference? In this video, Nick and Yvan do a side by side test. What say you?!
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Pan the Organizer and Forensic Detailing both tested this out and both found that foam first works better at cleaning.
Good to know we’re in good company!!
Love these guys. Everything is explained, very scientific. Thanks guys.
Thank you
Because I worked at and owned a tunnel car wash, I got in the habit of pressure washing first.
I still do that at my day job because I feel that I do it more for show - for the owner than to help in any cleaning. I prefer to rinsless anyhow.
If I can rinseless, I put an oz of solution in some water in the former and apply to the vehicle. From there I do my contact rinseless / mechanical decon. If I use a fallout remover I'll contact wash, dry, fallout remover, wash / clay, dry. I'd like to get them set up with a good fallout remover/clay towel that works good together, like the set up I have at home.
Perfect
My car is ceramic coated and is outside 24/7. I spray APC first on a dry surface to help soften the dirt. Then I foam the car and allow it to dwell, rinse with pressure washer. I then use ONR for contact wash and with a ceramic booster spray as a drying aid.
Good plan
I'm missing something... what caused the rinsed/foamed/rinsed area to be dirtier than the foamed/rinsed area? Is it the surfactants being diluted by being sprayed onto an already wet panel or was the dirt driven into the clear coat? I'm thinking this is a place where the science/practice defies the logic.
Applying the foam first to a dry panel allows the foam to better emulsify the dirt on the surface.
My method on the house cars are rinse loose dirt , Foam gun then contact wash... Breaks dirt down and nice lubricated surface for hand wash...Got some spray polish .. Excellent with white CCS pad .. Thanks for great products..
Thank you!
I'm a rinseless guy always pre spray before you use the pressure washer
I'd like to not intentionally scratch my paint 🤣
Excellent
@DIY Detail I have y'all to thank for it. We can't regenerate clear coat
excellent. Personally on heavy dirt I have been pre-foaming with All clean first. Amazing!
Excellent
This is what it's all about thanks for the education and knowledge. 👊👍
Thank you
I feel like you HAVE to go with a rinseless first for lubrication, power wash that off (2nd), and then foam cannon as the 3rd step. At least thats what I’m doing after this rain stops 👀
Excellent
A foam bath first is all you’ll ever need.
By rinsing with only water, all the dirt & traffic film is fully saturated with water; and not a surfactant engineered to remove dirt from clear coat. Water is not a good surfactant.
Doing more steps than a foam bath, rinse & handwash is unnecessary and will just waste your time & money, taking the fun out of detailing.
Just foam it and rinse man, not that hard.
Interesting question this. I thought that to rattle dirt along the panel without lubrication was wrong but my detailing Guru suggests pre rinsing first. I think it depends on how dirty it is and how we should tackle the job.
It’s usually best practice to pre-treat.
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Great comparation guys! I love your work and admire your skills and profesionall deep analytic approach in every step of detailing bussines...
I personally think its more about which product you use for foam action than its about pre-rinse or not...i tried lots of shampoons both alkaline and neutral in my foam cannon and i can confirm that with pre-rinse you just have it all unnecessarily dilluted on a wet car so you can never get cleaning action you should get with dry surface with stronger clinging effect for the dirt...
And just for the note...i like you using and advetising products from your own laboratory instead of selling other brands for commercial profit like most of other ytbers do no matter if they really like those products or not
Thank you.
Hey Yvan, if you haven't done it yet, how about spraying a rinseless solution then pressure wash rinse and see if rinseless helps release more than a foam does.
Good plan
@@diydetailofficial I believe you previously did this while at Optimum and that rinseless and snow foam were equally better than water alone.
Times and chemistry has changed
Well stated, both work and yes the difference is minor BUT it is a difference. It will be upon each to decide which method to implement.
Exactly
Nick speaking facts talking about detailers doing what looks good on RUclips. Gotta really be careful who you follow !!
Thanks
Are you guys going to go live tonight?? 04/21/2023 thank you 👍
Yes
Would be interesting to see a 3rd panel with a rinse-less wash as the presoak (one with foam after & one with no foam after)
Thanks for the awesome content!!!!
That's vary subjective since soaps and pre soaks are not created equal. I use a fairly strong presoak clean the wheels then rinse and wash, on well maintained and coated vehicles the hydrophobics are about 80 back just after the presaok which means the panel is free of road film and mostly clean. It's harder on coating, waxes ect but I use a sealant or detailer every hand wash. I notice hydrophobics suffer greatly if I rinseless wash the vehicle for 2 or 3 washes and it needs a proper soap to really clean the surface especially here in Minnesota.
Thank you.
With our DIY Detail Incredible Suds no need for agressive pre-soak products.
Incredible suds is an awesome product. What a great looking truck to go four wheeling or mudding in!
Thank you
So Foam, rinse , refoam and contact wash ?
Ideally, yes
I rinse the car first with water, then foam it. I don't first use a pressure washer to remove dirt and mud.
That works
Great demonstration on how well your insane bubbles works! Can I do this on a hot summer day in direct sunlight?
Best to not do that.
I’ve always thought that when you pressure wash first you’re driving dirt into the paint
Exactly
@@diydetailofficial but on a really dirty car I’ll do a prewash of 1:128 P&S Absolute followed by rinse off then foam, which I leave on car for extra lubricity as I contact wash
Except nobody has actually shown any evidence of this, all talk.
Can you do a video on how many PSI you use on your pressure washer and how you set up your stainless steel quick connect couplers? Thnx.
900 -1000 psi
Can you guys do a video of polishing outdoors with your Gold Standard polish?
When the weather gets there, yes
Great demonstration. I'm wondering if results would be different on a vehicle that is Not coated.
It’s the same.
Lightings could improve
We have improved it dramatically since this video
Is it safe to foam first without rinsing if it’s hot outside and in direct sunlight? I normally rise first in this situation.
In small sections, yes
Always foam! not even a debate or question... :-)
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This was my plan today but truck wasn’t very dirty so skipped the 2nd foam and contact wash. I’ll do it when needed but it wasn’t
You did blow dirty water from the rear door to the back half of the front door. Could be why the back half of that door has more dirt.
Interesting point. You can conduct a similar experiment and let us know what you find out:)
Ammo NYC always rinse first without any product or lubrication on the paint. Then spray on a snowfoam then go straight into a contact wash without even rinsing the snowfoam. I watch through my fingers everytime 😂😂
Scary.
That’s because he’s correcting the paint afterwards. He doesn’t care about any marring he may create during the wash process because the cars are already in bad shape and he’s going to polish after anyway.
Great content! Have you guys tried comparing Incredible Suds vs DIY Rinseless (in liquid form, not foam!) for the pressure washing stage before contact wash?
Foam has a slight advantage
Makes sense 👍
Thank you.
Nice Video. Very informative and to the point.
Thank you!!
No! pre-treat then pressure washer the goal minimize the spreading of the grime dirt and traffic film and prevent it from scratching the surface.
Exactly
@@diydetailofficial ♥️
Foam is going to break down dirt
Exactly
Pre soak with DIY rinseless in a foam sprayer?
That works as well.
Hey guys whats on your opinion on doing iron decon on a ceramic/coating. Is it better to do agitate with a microfibre/mitt or perforated clay media safe enough?
Both work, our clay towel will work best.,
Pan the Organizer has already do that before)
As have many before us, and others will after us.
@@diydetailofficial i am expecting the new 8y coating. It going to last 8years or more realsitically 3 4 plus?
As a DIY'er you don't need to use either a pressure washer or foam cannon on 99.9% of the cars you do...a couple you have and maybe a few neighbors or a few gigs on the weekends. They don't need a either.
Thank you
woah! There is a fine line between need and fun! I need to foam and pressure wash every time. Because its fun!
Officer Nick lost his powerstache. Unacceptable.
Oh don’t you worry 😂 this was filmed in September 2022 lol, the last video in the hard drive that hadn’t been edited. More content being recorded this week! #powerstache
This channel is about overthinking simple wash processes. 😂
It’s about education, from the person who’s never washed a car to the OCD professional detailer.
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Trick question: you never pressure wash a vehicle. It eats the clear coat.
Why?
@@diydetailofficial What do you mean why? Physics? I said the answer in my post.