Unlocking the Secrets: How a SAA Race Gun Works
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this video, l take a look at how a SAA race gun works, and explain its secrets to extreme speed and fanning without damage. I unlock its mechanical advantages to extreme speed, firing 3 shots in 1/5 a second (or even faster) and hard fanning without damage! Find out why a SAA race gun can fire faster than any other handgun in the world!
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sorta-niche content like this often doesn’t have the best editing and the presenter often isn’t the best speaker but you’re a wonderful exception. you did a great job of showing and explaining how a race gun works and i appreciate you sharing that knowledge with us.
Thank you so much for the nice comment and for watching!
I have never been a revolver person but then I have never had one for me to try. I have always wanted to know how they worked and I think your video did a great job in doing that. Thanks!!!
Thanks for the kind comments. Glad you enjoyed it and Thanks for watching!😃
I've always been a (double action) revolver guy, they're more intricate but yes, he did a very good job. I've always wanted a real Colt S.A.A., I know I'll never have one, but man, are they beautiful...
I learned what I know on a .357 Magnum, Smith and Wesson, 6” barrel, stainless steel revolver. I was hitting golf balls at 40’. The semi automatic just does not have the finesse of a revolver.
@@joeyravage4798 A well made double action revolver is an intricate machine. They have some of the features of a SAA race gun like extended leads. I've never took one apart (never owned one either) so I don't know how they work.
That pistol was so accurate. I would cock the hammer making it a hair trigger, take aim and fire. Some creep stole it 29 years ago.
Not a huge gun person, but the history, engineering and ingenuity is presented well and really interesting! Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It is fascinating mechanical engineering at work in race SAAs. Thanks!
Not a huge gun person? Not everyone is perfect. But you can change. 😂
God made man, Samuel Colt made them equal and this guy fine tuned it, my hat is off.
Same here, but I can only imagine the hundreds of hours somebody spent figuring out how to do that reliably for the first time. It was also interesting to understand the action better on the SAA. There's a lot more going on there than I would have guessed. Machining technology must have been better than I previously imagined to mass produce those in the 1870's for an affordable price.
@@charlesenfield2192
It was literally a row of manual lathes and milling machines with other more now obscure machines. Each one would be set up with fixtures adjusted to make a single but repeatable cut. The part would start out as a hunk of steel in the first machine, get it's first cut, get moved to the second machine, so on and so forth for each individual part, all the way up to the finishing area and that's where it would deviate a little bit in terms of finishing. There's different ways of finishing such as bluing vs nickeling. Bluing is actually a form of controlled rusting and you want to do that in an area separate from your equipment. As for nickeling I can make a guess but I don't know for sure. I think they run current through water and magnetically attach nickel to parts now. I don't know how they used to do, I'm assuming a combination of heat and a certain chemical solution. I'm just now getting into gunsmithing but I did go to school for machining and welding so it's not all alien to me just yet. I'm reading a book from the 1930s called "modern gunsmithing" and it's fascinating. The great depression was on so there's a section on how to be a gunsmith in an apartment with minimal tools for example. I eventually want to take classes through Sonoran Desert Institute. But forgotten weapons has done Q and As on what you were asking about. Sorry for the long answer, you seemed interested. But to go back to your statement, it took a lot of planning of relatively simple actions and a lot of time (most of which was swapping parts from machine to machine).
Your enthusiasm and knowledge are superb. But your ability to communicate and share what you know in a clear calm manner are what makes watching your videos worthwhile. Well done.
Wow, thank you! What a nice thing to say!😃
This video is awesome, I feel like I learned a lot about revolvers in general. Great work my man
Thanks for watching!😃
65yo. Been around firearms my whole life. Never built a race gun. Grew uo on single actions. Very informative and well presented. Easily understood. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it. SAAs are very fascinating to me. Very simple design but ironicly still the fastest.😃
I had to watch the clear check twice, gave me chills how smooth and clean those fire arms are.
Thank you very much Tuco! You explained it very well along with showing what needed to be seen. So many times I've been tempted to try some of those mods, and thank goodness I didn't. I thought I could fudge it like porting the heads on a V8, and it would be ok. I would have ruined my gun. Just because gunsmiths of old may have been able to do it with hand tools doesn't mean I can. Just like Clint, "A man's got to know his limitations"
LOL! Thanks for watching!
Excellent. I’ve been shooting revolvers for over thirty years but I had no idea what it took to get a single action revolver to be able to fire that way.
Wow! I had no idea it was that complex an issue to make a SAA race gun. I always thought it was just a matter of polished bearing surfaces, and lighter springs.
Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Alec Baldwin could learn something here about firearm safety.
The way that 3rd guns cylinder spun it was smoother than spinning a bicycle tire upside down! I watched this listening to the Dollars soundtracks in the background. Extremely informative and educational video I had no idea that's how Single Actions functioned never mind Race guns. Shame I can't use or operate guns being in the UK but it's my dream to shoot a Single Action Army Race gun in the old west, one day! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching 😀. Glad you enjoyed it!
The one thing I hate about cowboy action shooting is that they use such light loads that it removes the skill elements of handling recoil to the point where they might as well use airsoft.
Ya. I don't cowboy action shoot much because of that I use 140 PF when shooting live SAA rounds.
Indeed! Sure, use lighter loads, but if you make it airsoft-light you might as well just skip gunpowder entirely and save yourself a whole lot of money.
@@Davidow1 Ageed, The shooting sports in general have gravitated away from traditional skill building in favor of pursuing mechanical advantages that get stupid.
@@TUCOtheratt honestly i think they should make it so your loading has to be at least equivalent to what a black powder cartridge would give you in terms of recoil, at least what it seems like currently is that most places are fine with anything so long as you don't get squibs.
@@wonderflounium Yes Cowboy Action has a power factor requirement of only 60 which is close to bb gun. USPSA minor is 125. I shoot 140 in my SAAs even doing the triple shot with live ammo. No recoil take the fun away IMO
12:39 It took me about TWO YEARS to try and "see" this in your videos, and not until today did I finally see it.
Actually I "heard it", because your "hand" moves that fast that I still missed it.
Dry fire was the only way to hear it
The rest of your videos are "technical".
7 seconds in this one is "technique".
Absolutely astounding!
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I just noticed down in the comments that you explained the movement last year, but for myself I still had to "hear" it. Almost imperceptible to see.
Cheers!
Wow! That was fantastic! After many decades, I just purchased my first revolver last year. I was never really into wheel guns, but as I get older, I'm more interested. I pulled out my S&W while watching this to follow along, and compare to my gun. Thank you for the information. I have no intentions on making a speed gun, but the information is relevant. I noticed on my S&W the hand is on the opposite side. That is probably why it chambers counter-clockwise. Interesting. Thanks again for a great video packed with useful information.
Great explanation definitely helped me understand why some of those notches are different on some guns I’ve seen
I got into western revolver quick draw shooting because of you , I am retired military and an active automatic shooter, but now own 9 single action and currently working on my first race gun thank you for taking you time to make these videos you are definitely one of the best.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching, and I am curious about how your progress goes. Keep in touch! 😃
I love the single action revolver and how you explain the mechanism on it. Keep teaching us.
WOW..never realized how much custom work actually went into these things!😳Hats off to you for all the time, money and effort, and thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching! I have more of this on my Rumble channel.
Really appreciate you sharing the information. I’ve slowly been researching how to build myself something just to run some black powder blanks through. Love the videos, thanks for sharing the fun. 👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed the video. I have found that learning how to make the guns run is half the fun! Thanks for watching!😀
Are you familiar with the wax bullets and reloadable cartridges the cowboy fast draw association sells? Lots of bang for the buck just don't skimp on cleaning equipment it gets messy about 50 shots in.
@@uberalias301 Ya, that's a good safe way to practice fast draw.
Outstanding content and delivery, single six is a favorite of mine, no matter how many pistols and revolvers I own/owned, I’m naked or uncomfortable without a single six, the handling of one is like none other.
I have three of those revolvers; a .45 LC 1873, a .45LC 1858 Remington and a .357 Mag. 1873. They all are of high end quality, but all are in their stock form. Regardless, they shoot incredibly well and what a joy to have fun with them at the range. Thanks very much for the explanation as now I understand why Bob Munden used to raise hell about the authenticities of some of the reproductions.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Sir, always wondered about that, have several single action pistols and realized that they are designed to shoot slowly as I have always have and enjoy them, you description clears it up for me.
Fascinating.."Walk and Draw ,has been a sport ,since I was a boy ,back in the 50's...A Friend of the Family, actually competed in it (he was rare : ). You ,answered so many questions .here ...Thank you Sir
Great video, very interesting to see how that works and the differences between a stock and race gun. The details are all there, excellent technical explanation.
Thanks! It was a black hole of little to no info for so long when I was searching.
Astonishing! I had NO idea such things existed…I’ve seen quick draw competitions but had no idea the engineering behind this type of shooting. What mad genius came up with such techniques?? Amazing. I tried watching your shooting at about 9:00 but even at quarter speed, the frame rate is just too slow. I’d love to see some super slo-mo footage. Incredible, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Each video moves me closer to my Pietya Great Western 2.
Thank you.
I am a lefty, so the loading gate is perfect for me, your race gun video has made me realize the potential of the SAA and I'm definitely gonna pick one up next chance I get.
Gotta say. Great job in explanations. I knew about 70% of what you mentioned but the balance regarding the support bolt. The depth and guide of the notches all excellent. But what im still amazed at is how you get three shots out of the cock n fan. Ive tried to stop the video so I can see but im missing it.
In any case. Thanks for all this. 👏👏
I get the two shots with one sweep by contact with the thumb first then the little finger on the hammer as it goes by. This after breaking shot one with the trigger press.
This is such an amazing video! I’ve learned a great deal from you & I appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Don’t know if I’ll ever get into the race guns but I’ll think about how they work every time I take my stock revolver out from now on! Thanks Tuco!
Your welcome. The engineering is fascinating.
I'm new to the SAA, I got a pietta and I have one cylinder notch that doesn't lock up properly and your explanation of the action may have cleared up the issue with the ill fitting bolt. Thank you for your work on the channel :)
I have more in depth SAA information on my rumble channel. Thanks!
I have seen so many videos about this topic, but you do it best and with a lot of fun and enthusiasm. Thank you very much.
So nice of you!
Absolutely fascinating. I have shot single action revolvers for years. I learned more in this fifteen video than I ever have with years of experience. You did an excellent job of explaining how these critical parts interact with each other. So this may be a silly question, but I’m gonna ask it anyway. Can a modern (transfer bar) Ruger be made to run like an SAA?
Yes, I think a transfer bar revolver can be made into a race gun. It will have a little more friction and will required a sightly heavier mainspring. So the action will not be quite as light but I'm sure it would still run really good.
yep. you have good speaking skills. no ahhs no umms no filler words
Thanks brother👍👍. I was in the US Army, Tanker in the 1980's, so 1911 was my sidearm, not M16. Grew up in Texas, so have used firearms as long as I can remember, every type. And today, I learned more about how a revolver works than I ever knew. Nicely done.
The mechanics of it is very interesting to me. We must be about the same age. I'm 55, really enjoyed the 1980s. Thanks for your service!
@@TUCOtheratt 56 here. If I knew I was going to live this long, I'd taken better care of myself🤔. Much appreciated.
Wow!! I've never realized how much detail goes into making a revolver work. Appreciate your video Sir
Thanks for watching 😀
Thank you for this detailed explanation of the mechanics and where the modifications are made.Its very cool for sure.
Glad you liked it!
Mary Thanks for That EXTRAORDINARY Explanation. Congratulationns
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Truly amazing description of the mechanisms!
Fantastic video. Great explanation of the differences between stock and race.
I shot expert in the Army with the 1911, the M9 and the M17. Watching you makes me feel like Barney Fife
There are many different skill sets. Thanks for your service.
Thank you for all the information about the difference between the stock gun and what is needed to have a race gun. It was very informative. I'm trying to figure out if I would like to try to start to do this
Wow this is advanced gunsmith work.
What a great insight.
Yep the best youtube channel !!!
Thanks! What a nice thing to say.
huge gun lover, and never gave colts or their clones any attention. been enjoying your content and this video was perfect. you made it easy to understand and well made! thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Hunting Alaska for 25 years always carried a magnum wheel gun and it never jamed once. 300 grain brass loads worked well but takes both hands. Always wondered about the fast shooters and now I want one. Thank you for this video, very informative.
Thanks for watching and the nice comment!
Thank you for taking the time to explain in such detail. I have always wondered how these guns were modified to make them faster. Very interesting to see.
I’ve been watching your videos for well over a year and I finally got myself a 45 long colt single action! I’m definitely wanting to train in fast draw and fanning! Just gotta get it converted first.
Right on. Check me out on rumble.
This video was amazing, probably one of the most informative videos on race guns I've seen yet
Thanks. I'd been searching for info for years and ran across the one in the thumbnail for sale used in a gun store. It was hardly shot and was built by an unknown gunsmith (not Munden) I took it apart and examined it, shot it etc. Also I had the opportunity to disassemble a Munden gun that a friend had and examine it. It was much better work than the first one but used the same principals.
Please be aware that I hold you in the highest regard but, my wife is becoming unhappy with you because you have reawakened the single action loving child within me and I am restarting my obsession with this facet of American history. I also am remembering how much I love all cowboy guns but specifically the SAA. thank you sir and you now have a fan forever.
Wow! Thanks for the nice comments man!
That was an amazing explanation of how you have machined all the parts to make your race guns!! My dad was a machinist for over 30 years and I also worked in a job shop using a Bridgeport mill so I understood everything you talked about. So interesting!! Very excellent video Tuco!!
So that's how ole Mr. Bob Munden set my Colt 45 SAA revolver up and that's lot of meticulous handwork and patience to not only form a single action race gun but it gives a whole new meaning to these guns true artwork which gives them a greater value as well !!!!
One of the coolest guys around with SAAs. Keep up the good and cool work.
Thanks! Will do!
That makes sense as the trigger frame sits underneath it. Wish I had your gunsmithing skills for the other mods needed. Plus your shooting skills too!! Many Thanks!
You can sure hear the difference in those as you spin them, that last one in the beginning of the video, lord have mercy lol
Great video my friend! Good information for everyone. Another reason why I love these older single actions is that they truly are a work of art with everything working and fitting together.
Best wishes!
Very cool! This makes me want to build a race gun like that. I think it is extremely cool, the simplicity and craftsmanship and skill is so cool.
Stay tuned. New venue coming with everything reveled. Thanks!
Revolvers are just too cool. I WILL always love them. Thanks for taking the time to break down the differences and demonstrate how capable they can be when done up a bit and in the hands of a trained shooter 👍👍
Thanks for the nice comments and for watching!😃
You've answered all my questions concerning the topic. That was most excellent and educational. So enjoy your time and talent. To have made your race gun is just so cool. Now I understand what these slingers were doing cleaning and polishing those parts between use. That was so cool. Thanks again Tuco. You have many talents and would have fit the bill perfectly as a gun slinger in the the film industry, in character, poise and skill.
Thanks for watching and that nice comment! : )
Thanks for you expertise. I've been a single six shooter for many years, not as great as you in fan shooting, matter of fact, never attempted. Your videos on safety , as I've known, never experience, I never want to self inflict myself. I've have a good holster rig, 2 guns and I shoot 2 EAA, 44 magnums, 4.5 barrels. I do reload light 44 mag. And 44 special. I also do my own maintenance, take down of all my revolvers. I also have 1, 44 magnum blackhawk, 5.5 inch barrel and 4.5 in super Blackhawk. In the two rugers, I've bought the reduced spring kits from Wolf gunsprings, and reduce hammer spring for 1 EAA. All for controlling my aim. But when I watch you and your performance, WOW.
Thanks for the nice comment. You sound like me 30 years ago. Stay on the journey it's a ton of fun!
Good i formation from a good source. Just won a bid on a Heritage .45lc SAA clone, and never knew I’d tear it up by practicing fanning it.
That is fascinating actually. I've never learned the workings of revolvers much less race guns though I have 3 standard revolvers. And SAs I only field strip. Thanks for the demo.
Have watched ur amazing shooting but this is the first video in which I have listened/heard how these guns actually work!. Ur a smart dude....but your ability to shoot these guns lime u do....overshadows the education I just learned. Good stuff! Appreciate the tutorial!
I've had 1860's BP. I just purchased my first 1873 Pietta cartridge .357/.38 SA. So I love you're videos. I just subscribed and will be watching more. Thanks.
All of my handguns are Semi Auto except for the Pietta. I do own a couple of SA/DA revolvers in .357/.38
Thanks for watching! Pietta is the best!😃
that's a great explanation and for guys like me, show and tell, of how the mechanics works.
Ive never knew how those work in any manner even though i am a gun person and enjoy the sport of shooting. This video was extremely well presented and your knowledge surpasses mine by far. Good job and keep up the great work.
Thanks for explaining how it works, now I know how you do it.
Thanks again.
You bet!
Can't wait to move to a state that doesn't have a roster. Always wanted an SSA since my days of youth and the Fanner 45 (toy). Appreciate your detailed content. 😊😊😊😊😊
What's a roster?
You could be a double for Billy Bob Thorton. Or he, for you! :-)
Very interesting and well done. Watching you draw and hit the targets is testimony to what incredible bodies we have been given. Think of all the moving parts in your shoulder, arm, hand and finger and the incredible precision of totally freehand shooting. It's mind boggling as to how we can train to do complex tasks and this applies to many sports and activities. And nearly 100% of the training is not done by thinking about it. Raw practice teaches us in a manner we don't understand.
Well thought out presentation. I noticed you had notes to keep you on track. Everything was explained very well. Now I understand the difference between stock and race guns. Revolvers have a whole new place in my heart and head now. Lol well done man.
Thanks for the well thought out and nice comment. 😃
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Tuco, my dad was a gunsmith all my life and he was one of the smartest men I have ever known. He could do wonderful things with a lathe and mill.
BUT, he never could explain certain things the way that you just did. Bravo. I have a Dakota in .45lc that I think I want to modify. I promise I won’t lean back like I’m begging for my life 🤣😂
Interesting personal story. Thanks for the nice comment 😃
I've always wanted to know this! Fantastic video. One day I'm going to have one worked up like this!
Hey Tuco, I’d love to see you use a milling machine to do the cylinder notch deepening some time. Cheers
Email me.
I've got a lot of Italian clones, really have no interest in competition shooting. But man am I hooked on your channel! A man never goes wrong with learning new knowledge.
Thanks!
Thanks for explaining the physics, that Mitchell sounds so smooth. Made me smile.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was a very informative video. I have always wanted to go down the rabbit hole of cowboy guns. After watching your excellent shooting, and this great video I now want to take the plunge. I look forward to watching all you videos in the near future. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and the support!
I've always wondered… now I know. I love the technical stuff.
I learned a lot from this, precision work is so important for a good race gun. Also I only found out from a earlier video what a race gun is. Being a Brit I have never heard the term before.
What a fantastic informational video! Now I know not to try and run my P frame fast (and wreck it), and what it would take if I did wish to make that happen. Sounds like it would make more sense to buy a used race gun first.
Thanks! P frame is a double action? I've never owned a double action. This only works with single action race gun revolvers. they are as rare as hens teeth. I found one once in a gun store and reverse engineered it and learned to build my own out of 600 Pietta clones. Long Story.
very well explained to someone that had no "real" idea excatly how the inner working of a wheel gun works, thanks man, great job!
Your welcome. SAAs are very simple machines.
I just saw your latest video on your work for competition revolvers...Fantastic Tuco, congratulations and thanks for your work, I will treasure it. You are great.
I love single actions, my first gun was a ruger blackhawk. those 3 shot groups are something else, I waatched the slow-mo at half speed and I still don't know how you did that. my best guess is that you drag your last finger after the second shot? amazing video keep up the great work.
Very informative, thank you for making this video.
Taught me a whole bunch
Glad it was helpful!
Que belleza de armas. Mecanismos sencillos pero eficaces. Excelente explicación de como funciona un revolver saa y que maravilla verlos al detalle. Gracias.
Gracias por mirar y disfrutar. :)
Freaky fast!! I understand what is going on I just don’t understand how you are doing it so well. It almost surprises me that the hammer drops fast enough
Well done! Very interesting, and clearly presented👍🏼
Thank you kindly!
An infinite amount of things can be a weapon. They are all only a weapon when used as a weapon.
With that being said, I enjoy this man and his videos.
This was a very informative video.
Thank you Sir.
Well done. 👍
I have one revolver that had an excellent action job done to it. (It’s not a race gun.) You can tell a huge difference and it is a real pleasure to shoot.
Awesome video! learned something new today! Thank you. Won't ever use the knowledge, its just knowing how it's done!
Jeff
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this! I had no idea this is how yall did it. Great content!
I can't wait to do some custom work on a couple of no.3 schofields to try to get them on par for race gun application,I know they may not be the same or as smooth for fanning but I've always loved top breaks
excellent information thank you so much you sight is fantastic watch them over and over again thank you .
You are very welcome!😃
This is so cool to see the engineering behind these revolvers! Also, very helpful. You see........ the Corndog Kid has called me out..... tomorrow.... noon... I’ll be up all night making these helpful modifications! Great video, Sir!
Ha haa! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Very interesting! It's so amazing to watch you fan those guns 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for making this video. You explained everything about the race gun in amazing detail. I thought the secret was in the trigger pull. I was completely wrong. Thanks again! Really enjoyed the video! Stay Safe and Take Care!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this. It’s amazing work and great to see your skills and workmanship 👌 Bravo
Thank you very much!
Makes me appreciate how good the gunsmiths were back in the day, no CNC machines just basic steam powered shapers and lathes.
This is the coolest channel I've found in a while.
It looks like the only way to make it faster would be to use miniature electronic solenoids to operate the bolt in and out of its cut.
Man man man. I'm glad I ran into your channel. Really enjoying it. Thanks for explaining this. Really cool👍
Glad you enjoy it!
I don’t own any historical hand guns but I am mechanically inclined and was therefore really intrigued by the methodology involved and your presentation of such was absolutely first rate! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and the nice comments 😃. I am as fascinated with the gunsmithing as I am with the shooting.
It feels like I just got a lesson and wisdom from grandpa. Thank you for the content sir. Best wishes
You are very welcome😃
How I felt at my job as a range tech for the DoD/Army. The Vietnam Vet Armorer that taught me was like the Yoda of weapons. Took so many different ones apart in front of me over the course of a couple months and always explained how each one worked and then had me reassemble in front of him to make sure I did it right. I still remember how to totally strip down and operate everything from M3 grease guns to 240B's. Those skills came in handy so many times. (plus getting paid to shoot so many military weapons, and on full auto most of the time, was possibly the best job ever)
Thanks! You answered questions I didn't even know I had.
Glad I could help!