Power Rotary Scissors - Does the Stihl RG Live up to the Hype?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Power rotary scissors are a relatively new lawn care tool that offers exceptional benefits. For the person where only the absolute best finish over the entire lawn will do, I give you the Stihl RG-KM.
This is Stihl’s offering in the rotary scissors market that’s really a niche item. It’s available as an attachment to their Kombi multi-tool. Where this tool shines is for the finishing work on your lawn.
Traditionally anyone reel mowing their lawn had to use a string trimmer to clean up edge areas of the lawn like alongside fences, posts and hard-to-mow areas. A string trimmer can work but the finished result doesn’t match what your reel mower provides. Because the RG cuts the grass the same way that your reel mower does, you get the same scissors quality cut as a reel mower.
This provides a more consistent finish to the lawn.
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Thanks so much for making this video. I really enjoy how it works finishing off the grass by the side walk. The string trimmer often tears up this area and the reel mower isn’t a clean cut unless the height of the cut and sidewalk are perfectly matched. Thanks again for such quality videos!!!
Glad it was helpful Tom. It's one of those tools that's a tough sell before you buy it but once you have one, you're glad you did.
My thought as well. Especially the grass that runs parallel to the sidewalk. I need to level my yard so that the height of my soil comes close to matching the concrete height.
I own this and love it... when it works. Many times when I connect it to the KMA-135 head, the gear box head spins and grinds without turning the blades. I don't know what is causing this but if I load up the inside with grease via the lube screw cap it seems to help. My local Stihl wants me to bring it in which I will do if it continues. Seems like the wire drive shaft is not seating correctly maybe becuase once it does turn I don't have any issues after that until I disconnect it and reconnect it. This happens half the time now. When it works this thing is the best tool in my inventory. It is absolutely pure satisfaction to use.
It's a pretty nice piece of equipment even though it's use case is pretty niche. Nothing else really does what it does. As far as the issue you're having, are any of the teeth bent? It sounds like something is mechanically binding it. I'd inspect the blades and ensure you haven't nicked one.
Just found this comment. Having same issue with KM91 . Ever get it resolved?
Great review and demo. My guess is RG stands for "rotierende Gartenschere" (rotating garden shears). Looking forward to seeing the new Allett thriving in its natural habitat. Cheers!
Thanks Ted. That could be what RG stands for. Looking forward to getting the lawn better overall.
I have the rotary scissors but a different model and absolutely love it!!! Not only do you get the reel mower cut, debris isn’t flying all over the place and it’s forgiving if your slightly off where the string trimmer will grab and do all kinds of bad things!
Maybe I’ll start calling you Ron G after one of my favorite DJs back in the day 🤣
I didn't think I'd like using this as much as I do Chris. It really is pretty awesome. Appreciate you watching sir. Ron G it is!
Bought this baby today for my Father's Day gift. I love it! It will replace my web eater, which I hate in general. Not inexpensive and a bit heavy, but well worth it.
Very cool William. I really like mine.
Can you use it as an edger for the sidewalk?
@@jimmyanthony6557 The claim is that you can but I would never for the same reasons Ron mentions in this video. It's such a precision gadget that after using it I don't think many would use it to edge.
I have that set up it is expensive I'll give you that but worth every penny after you run one. Great video I enjoy your videos greatly
Thanks so much for watching James. I agree that it's one of those devices that you don't appreciate until you actually use it.
Really fun to watch it cut…worked well in that area between rocks and fence. I will hold off so I can instead buy some Fertilizers to keep it all looking good. Thanks for posting
Happy it was useful Tom V. Really wanted to show how it's useful for me. Appreciate you guys watching.
Rasen is lawn in German. Garten is garden. RG lawn and garden. The KM may mean Kombi (K) Motorsensen (M) (brush cutter/trimmer).
Ahhhhh that makes sense. Lawn and Garden. Appreciate it McNasty!
@@RonHenry no problem. Headed out to try my scissors soon as well!
Great little video. Love the Stihl range and something on my wish list . Thanks for practically showing what the rotary cutter does.
My pleasure Shazia. Glad it was helpful sir!
The rotary scissors are a must with really low cut reeled yards. I dig the big boulders in your backyard. Would love to see how you manage the GM1600 around those in a future video 🙏🏻 Thanks for the content.
Thanks Dad mows Best. I keep the GM1600 about 6 inches away from the rocks and use the rotary scissors to clean up. Appreciate you watching.
I’ve had the Stens rotory scissors for some time now. No complaints except they are extremely loud. I have them set up with an EGO power+ multi head system.
Cool Alejandro. The Stihl unit is y very loud. The power head is much louder than the scissors running.
Those are amazing! Definitely going to get one for the new yard. We use those at the course to edge bunkers. Works so good!
Devin approved is good enough for me! :-) Thanks for chiming in sir.
Kudos to the camera person 🎦. Great framing of the product in action 👍
Alex is a bad man. He does a great job.
Thank you very much for all the great videos Ron.
Thanks for watching.
That’s amazing I need this for around my trees in the back will look into amazing video again!
Glad it was helpful Sativa. Appreciate you watching
Mr RH, the man with all the cool tools. That thing looks like a nice addition to the arsenal
It's pretty sweet Papa Mows Low. Thanks for watching.
You make it look so effortless. Are you allowing the unit to glide on its base, or are you actually that strong & coordinated? Thanks.
Practice and letting it glide for the most part.
Our company does houses that are worth millions and when grass is right next to reality expensive tile floors or walls, the rotary is the best choice because if you use anything else to edge the grass, it will stain the tile or expensive walls.
That's a great point Dirk. Thanks for chiming in sir.
Great vid Ron, but how close did you get to the rocks! and the metal fence. I agree that edging unit will do the edges better, the clue is in the name. But nice to see you said that. Looking forward to your next vid.
I got within an inch of both Leon. Appreciate you watching sir. Thanks for the support.
Lol the background music at the beginning 👍🏾😂
Right? Gotta have fun with it.
Great video sir 👍🏾.I really enjoyed it. Great vibe on the music 🎶 as specially that Funk at the end. 😎
Glad you enjoyed it Darrell. Was fun to make.
. I just bought this. The main problem is i am 6 foot tall and the kombi unit is too short in the shaft for the RG head to contact the ground and sit level unless i bend over. the rear handle is ok but the front is no good. maybe a darwin grip will allow me to straighten up. i used for 2 minutes then put it back in the van and got out the string trimmer. Very disappointed i didn't actually hold this at the dealer before spending $1000 AUS
You need one of these Matthew. It will change your like when it comes to using rotary scissors. amzn.to/3KEf56C Not sure if you can get it in Australia but it makes a HUGE difference for taller people.
Appreciate the video but you trimmed where the lawn mower can get. I purchased hoping that it cuts at and beneath a fence. My fence is almost identical to yours, so I was hoping to see that in action. Have you trimmed at and/or beneath the fence?
My mower can't get there.
Love the great reviews. Best review vs all the reviews I’ve seen
Appreciate that Chynna!
with the air monarchs!!! great vid
Had to!
What happens if you get to close to the fence, rock, mailbox or driveway with the blade? Does it kick back and bend the teeth? Very cool tool. Thanks for showing us that one. It is nice to see you do edging videos too.
It bounces back slightly Greg. Doesn’t bend the teeth. I try to be careful to not run it into fences and mailboxes hard.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it bounces back as a fail safe mechanism in the device. Sounds cool. Unfortunately it will not get between objects that can’t cut grass in those areas like a a string trimmer.
Big Ron, I missed the Live Stream last night but this item is a must have.
Appreciate it Cedrick! Thanks for watching sir.
Big Ron, this tool is a Game Changer. It's like having a miniature reel mower that fits where the Toro GM can't. A must have.....
For sure. Cedrick. I like it
I purchased this unit about a year ago and it's got less than an hour on it, but the blades (scissors) will intermittently get stuck and stop moving. They aren't chipped, there is nothing caught between any of the blades, it just stops. Using a more than powerful enough (approved) Kombi head unit to run it. The bolt on the underside simply takes the blades off. Have you experienced this? Quite frustrating to stop multiple times during operation to manually try to move the blades and then resume. Thoughts? Thanks!
I've not experienced that in my lawn. I ran it last season and this year and it's still been running great. No issues with it jamming.. Do you occasionally lubricate yours?
@@RonHenry haven't with under an hours use...but I'll try. Likely going to drop it off at the Stihl dealer for them to troubleshoot. I purchased a spare set of scissors as well, so I'm deeply invested in this thing already, lol.
The G stands for grand meaning 1000 because they’re that expensive. Good information and beautiful results but I think the average guy (me) needs to understand this is next level stuff that he’ll never spend the money on.
Appreciate you watching Cory.
Cool music. It’s like the Brady Bunch 101😂
Glad you like it. :-)
Maybe this will clear the way for Ego to sell their rotary scissors in the US, as it’s currently only available internationally.
Cool video. I’ve seen others say it damages wood fences and other delicate items. I’d love to see if this is really better than using a string trimmer along a wood fence line. I hate trimming along the fence line. 😂
It does less damage to posts than a string trimmer Salvador. I believe the Lawn Tools found the same to be true.
@@RonHenry that’s good to hear. Thanks for sharing!
Just got one, works great but will shred a aluminum fence if nicks it
I've not hit an aluminum fence with mine as yet.
@@RonHenry be careful. I have same fence as you. Cuts into it pretty good. Should only be $200 in my opinion
Great video!! I am guessing RG is Reciprocating Gear.
I also bought one a month ago. it is pretty awesome. However mine clatters when its working ... as it reciprocates [like a playing card hitting spoke of a kid's bike]. Yours seems very quiet but hard to tell with the music. I may have an issue that I need to have looked at before it comes apart. [YIKES!]
Quite possibly Rob. This unit from Stihl is very quiet. Love the operation.
As always….great video Ron!!! Thank you for showcasing this new product! I have a beautiful Zoysia lawn that is absolutely gorgeous except for a few extremely steep inclines toward my driveway. My string trimmer and push mower (because I can’t use my other mower on it) is not kind to the lawn in that area. Do you think this would perform well on a small area that is roughly a 60 degree incline? I don’t mind spending the money if it works so I’m seeking your opinion on what you think is best. Thank you for all of the great videos.
It should Joel. Even though there's an incline, rotary scissors should work fine as long as the area is smooth. It provides a great finish on the lawn. Appreciate you watching. Thanks for the support.
"Steel" I used to be an Authorized dealer and was corrected on a regular basis by my sales rep.
So not Still but Steel?
Yessir!
@@RonHenry (I think it’s a German thing)
Awesome video @Ron Henry 🔥 I think the RG stands for Rotary Gear? Either way, sticking to the edger and $3 blade lol Thanks for the advice. Known for buying shiny new things…
Hard to say Landon. McNasty Motorsports thinks it stands for "Lawn and Garden" - Rasen is lawn in German. Garten is garden. RG lawn and garden. The KM may mean Kombi (K) Motorsensen (M) (brush cutter/trimmer).
Anyone have one of these and have problems with it locking up or seizing?!?! It works well when it works but constantly locks up and will not oscillate.
I've not experienced that with mine Shannon. Sounds like it needs lubrication or potentially has a bent tooth?
Hey Ron would you know a trusted website I could buy Creeping bentgrass seed or dwarf Bermuda
You can try Hancock seed in Florida. I’ve had good success with them in the past. Granted I’ve never purchased bentgrass from them but have no reason to believe it would be a bad experience.
Hey Ron what series is your stihl edger? (The one with the $3 blade) I need a new edger but I see different reviews on all the stihl edgers and not sure which one to spend my money on.
Mine is the Stihl KM 91R. There are newer and more powerful units now. I believe Alex has the 131?
cost of rotary scissors is $283.00 via amazon and open box on ebay is $199.00
Not for the Stihl unit
@@RonHenry It come with a install kit that fits the STIHL unit!
3:21 RG-But you can't get so close to the fence or other posts that you touch metal on metal, that's where the string trimmer handles everything I need. And cordless electric (not gas) is quiet. Of course if you have a jungle, might need gas, but then you're probably not the audience for a $300 RG anyway. I'm surprised RG got away with having no protective cover/housing for safety.
Appreciate you watching vashon100!
I heard the rotary scissors are better than the reciprocator?
For edging, yes.
Ron how long and how many days you run your i irrigation during the summer? I may have asked but not sure answer. I run irrigation on fesque 3 times a week for 10 mins. I know you need about a inch a week, right?
If reseeding I run irrigation every day for 15 mins for about 1-2 weeks straight. According to person who install system.
I water a couple day per week Eric B. If you're applying an inch or so of water and the grass is looking good, keep doing what you're doing. Every lawn is a bit different so you may find you have to apply a bit more water or can get by with less. Depends on your soil, thatch levels, and temperatures in your area.
@@RonHenry ok thanks. I suppose a couple is average of twice a week. How long per water time ?
Great music in this video!! 👍👍
Thank you Higgie! 👍
I like G-Unit so I’m sticking to that lol
Rotary G-Unit!
Love your lawn
Thanks so much!
Ron, great content as always!
I appreciate it htmitambo!
Just a guess here, but RG might highlight the Reciprocating Gearbox of the head unit...
Quite possible
Great video… useful analysis and information. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
So, can the Rotary Goodness actually touch an object like brick on the house, tree trunk, metal fence, etc without damaging said object? Or will it gouge into those objects like line trimmer will?
It doesn't gouge like a string trimmer Todd. It's much easier on those areas.
@@RonHenry I figured as much but have never heard it described as such. Sadly, I don’t think they make one for the Echo combo system (at least as far as I can tell so far).
@@PanchoPringles not yet anyways.
Hi Ron. How heavy is it? I have the Husqvarna model and a small lawn...thank goodness too because it's heavy.
It's a little heavier than a string trimmer Marlon. It doesn't feel overly heavy to me.
A lil off the subject, does mirimichi green pest control flyes
I believe so Randy. It’s very effective against whiteflies. Should work for standard house flies too.
How come your lawn looks thin with brown patches? Is it a different type of grass that doesn't thicken like KBG?
It was just recently aerated opticyclic. It's Bermuda. It will thicken up more with the heat here. Appreciate you watching.
I think g stands for gear
Very well could be kingart813.
Hi Ron
Do you know a type of bermuda grass seed that can blend nicely with a seeded arden 15 lawn?
My lawn is a Tifway 419 and Arden blend. I think it looks decent.
Obviously the pandemic changed all, US$469 plus tax (and up) is the going price in the market 6/22. Very versatile attachment. Not sure if I should get one.
You won't regret it Antonio. It's pretty awesome. I'd get it before the price increases.
@@RonHenry I hope to get it, I’ve just got the most important attachments, missing the cultivator, I don’t have use for the blower attachment nor the brittle brush. I’ve benefited greatly from the chainsaw/extension combo and same with trim hedger using the extension as well. It’s awesome how in residential use we can just swap attachments instead of having ONE motor for each tool.
I’ve been looking high and low
Where can I get ? Do I have to order it because no one has it in stock.
How does it compare to the other power scissor unit made by IDech ?
Martha??? Where's my damn piggy bank? I'm off to Lowe's!!! =D
Haha. That’s awesome
Another great video Ron
Appreciate it!
can you send me a link for that shoulder strap you use ?
It came with the power head Daryl. I don’t believe sold on Amazon. Your local Stihl dealer has them.
The G stands for "get". As in, 'get off my lawn!'
That's right Chris!
Waiting on EGO to bring theirs over from the UK, i really want one of these
They will eventually.
What Stihl trimmer model are you using?
KM-91 powerhead. It's one of their older ones.
Hello Ron, I didnt see a overseed video this season. Did you overseed your lawn this year??
Nope I didn’t. Just top dressing and mowing this year.
@@RonHenry what, moving, what about that yard???
RG=Rotary Goodness 😁
I like it!
You know what? Is that blade spinning? Or reciprocating (vibrating like a multi tool blade?) the video makes it appear to spin but I don’t think that’s the case.
That's a good question Sam. I guess i can use a pen to see if the blades stay near each other (reciprocating) or if they're tryly spinning.
They are reciprocating or perhaps better stated, they oscillate, the tool doesn’t spin like the Idech rotary scissors.
Why can’t I find these anywhere?
Because only Stihl dealers sell them
Too rich for my blood but works well but it should for that price. It looks like a circular saw attachment. Stijhl are supposed to be high end. I will stick with my kobalt 80v trimmer edger. Thanks for video.
Appreciate you watching Eric B!
Ron it was a good video and the more product we are aware of the better to provide a choice to make life better for all the lawn care nuts. We all our nutty to be dedicated to how much work it takes to get a great lawn. So glad I stuck it out to now see I can take care of yard all by myself.
Very cool Eric. The longer you do it, the easier it gets.
@@RonHenry quick question Ron. Should I use bayer advance hose and sprayer all in one for cool grass and crabgrass blanket app post emergent on yard if I have baby grass all over yard from filling in bare spots? Baby grass probably 3-4 weeks old. Would post emergent milder type potency kill baby grass in the process ? It would be almost impossible to avoid not spraying the baby grass
I’d opt for pulling the crabgrass vs. spraying herbicide on young grass. Just not worth the risk imo.
Great video Ron!
The Darwin Grip is a nice addition to the scissors, just saying… 😉
Appreciate it Robert. It's your fault! I'll work on getting a Darwin Grip. :-) Bad influence.
@@RonHenry ❤️
RG isn’t an acronym, note that none of the KM tools are two letter acronyms, just an unknown naming convention. The R isn’t for rotary, nor is the G for Gear. Or at least it isn’t an acronym for the English language.
So it's just RG. Like my name is Ron, its name is RG?
@@RonHenry no, it’s either just a letter designation to identify the tool, or it’s a German acronym.
G is for God tier
I like it Wilbur!
I never heard of one of those. I bet it wouldn't be good if you got those blades caught into a fence?
I haven't seen that to be an issue Dennis. They're spinning pretty quickly so the blades tend to bounce off vs. biting in.
Rotary Gear ⚙️
Rotary gear. I dig it.
Very interesting 🤔
You want one now eh?
@@RonHenry not sure if I need it ?? But very intriguing.
Rotary Gearbox
That's probably it Andrew. Rotary Gearbox
It’s gotta be reciprocating gear.
Reciprocating gear could be it sam.
Another video we'll done my good sir.
Thank you kindly. Appreciate it
"Rotary Gangsta"
It is Gangsta. :-)
Ron to bad your trimmer is gas. I thought battery would be your choice. Milwaukee is the champ here.
I love my trimmer. Stihl is awesome. When it eventually breaks, I'll consider moving to battery. Until then, gas it is.
Damn, that thing looks like something out of a slasher horror movie 😂
Totally. It’s pretty savage looking.
I own all stihl products and they need to CHILL OUT with these high prices!
They are proud of them.
It's an excellent and well made device. After buying and using this thing I have to say it's worth the $399. price tag.
Rotary Gear?
That's a good guess Todd.
I bought the Rotary Scissors off of items. I like it but it gets hot, quick.
I haven't noticed this heating up much Perpetual Student. Not yet anyways.
@@RonHenry mine is a different brand. You have to grease it every use. Stihl is a phenomenal company. I think you will be just fine.
@@ThePerpetualStudentwhat brand is yours?
Nice add on tool, 350? I’m out . Great video though!
It is expensive for sure! Does a great job though.
@@RonHenry yes sir! Keep up the great work and greetings from Buford!
Gear
Thanks Kellly.
man awesome you up early doing work you must have great neighbors hhahahaha
I do mack02. :-) I don't run the rotary scissor early in the morning. Just the mower.
@@RonHenry gotta get that KMA135 powerhead….
@@GoFastGator Big Block power head.
@@RonHenry that’s the beauty of Stihl Kombi, best attachment quality and variety, big gas power, and big, quiet, electric power (via the KMA135R and KMA130R). Of course none of it comes cheap….
@@GoFastGator Have you used it? Runtime is decent?
😂Lol G-Unit. Maybe it means grass. Rotary-Grass.
G g g g g g g G-UNIT!
The rotary gristle 😂
That could be Garland. :-)
Rotary Gangster 😂
Da Gansta attachment.
After watching this video again, i noticed you not using it at the proper angles and not in area it was designed for.. please let a trained pro show you how to use this tool and let the people decide what is best and keep your biased opinions to yourself!
Thanks for watching! rbnjr! Appreciate the support. 🥰
@RonHenry way to respond sir, most wouldn't have done so in such a way
Lol
Groomer
Quite possibly Jeff.
How come the blades dont scratch or make a noise when it touched metal or rock ?
Not sure. The move so quickly, I don't think rocks or other debris really has time to get lodged.
@@RonHenry But even if it moves quickly its metal blades wired how it doesn't scrape