FULL PART TWO: Our Thoughts on Gina Rodriguez Singing the N-Word

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  • @jessy123852
    @jessy123852 4 года назад +10358

    If I can sing a song with my mom in the room and not say a single swear word, you can stop yourself from saying the n word.

  • @simplytrinabean
    @simplytrinabean 4 года назад +1185

    i feel like Loni and Amanda are speaking from two different generations

    • @kwesonabrams2906
      @kwesonabrams2906 3 года назад +25

      Fr

    • @laylay7179
      @laylay7179 3 года назад +4

      Yeah

    • @LaDiiNaya90
      @LaDiiNaya90 3 года назад +4

      Agreed

    • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
      @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 года назад +42

      I'm in Loni's generation (a little older than her). But I agree with Amanda. Problem is, Loni was so stuck on herself that she refused to HEAR Amanda. That came through clear, which then pissed off Amanda even more that Loni was flat out dismissing her without genuinely hearing her point.

    • @rickyo7061
      @rickyo7061 2 года назад +6

      @@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 that's not true. They were disagreeing with each other

  • @MrUnattainable
    @MrUnattainable 4 года назад +2235

    Loni literally made Amanda’s entire point at the end and didn’t even realize it 😂

    • @MBCrusin
      @MBCrusin 4 года назад +50

      Right!!!!!😂

    • @chrivzy7084
      @chrivzy7084 4 года назад +38

      Exactly

    • @shivairas6717
      @shivairas6717 4 года назад +63

      Right! Her comments be confusing me sometimes

    • @Tay-cg1pt
      @Tay-cg1pt 4 года назад +201

      She didn’t. Her point was that the word shouldn’t be used. Jewish people made MJ take out the slur whereas these rappers will not do it, even though it would benefit the black community. Loni is saying they should take it out. Amanda is saying no.

    • @rubymunoz218
      @rubymunoz218 4 года назад +102

      Tay because most rappers are black. Mj wasn’t Jewish so he doesn’t have the right to use those slurs.

  • @JV9644
    @JV9644 4 года назад +462

    I disagree with Amanda here. Majority of rappers and artists these days throw that word around in songs talking about women, money, sex, drugs. So how is she going to say that they’re using the word because they’re “telling their story and black experience”... last time I checked that word had nothing to do with women, money, sex, or drugs. I agree with Loni, throw the whole word away.

    • @Fernanda-qh2uq
      @Fernanda-qh2uq 4 года назад +3

      100% agree

    • @Fernanda-qh2uq
      @Fernanda-qh2uq 4 года назад +2

      @@allthingsauz so if the word is used in a song about degrading women and doing drugs, it's okay to be used, when it was also used back then right before a black person was lynched?

    • @Fernanda-qh2uq
      @Fernanda-qh2uq 4 года назад +3

      @@allthingsauz I still just find it ironic that the word can be picked and chose when it is derogatory or not with the past story it has.

    • @allthingsauz
      @allthingsauz 4 года назад +1

      Fernanda Vazquez because the meaning has changed over time unless it’s “er”. It’s used in our community for greetings and in friendly manners unless we’re joking around. It’s not offensive between us. That’s not picking and choosing because we don’t say it to put each other down.

    • @bobsmith5441
      @bobsmith5441 4 года назад +8

      If you're making music and releasing it to the general public and you use the N word, you cannot be insulted if someone sings the words of the song that you wrote back to you. Ridiculous.

  • @THEGREEDYCOUPLE
    @THEGREEDYCOUPLE 4 года назад +3770

    First time I've seen someone challenge Loni since Tamar Braxton days lol

    • @BigbossBonita
      @BigbossBonita 4 года назад +273

      FACTS she bring the REAL to the real. Without Amanda this show is Shallow

    • @NanaNaima1
      @NanaNaima1 4 года назад +80

      @@BigbossBonita I would like Amanda if she wasn't colorist

    • @sofiarodriguez6768
      @sofiarodriguez6768 4 года назад +51

      @@NanaNaima1 I feel that on such a deep level. Her comments and actions in the past have been past questionable.
      Hopefully she's grown and proves it on this show!

    • @allieeeekatt
      @allieeeekatt 4 года назад +57

      right , i dont like loni .. she not woke at all

    • @versatilevlogger9332
      @versatilevlogger9332 4 года назад +40

      Have a feeling this is why she is now an official cohost now! Loni finna go back to her place... y’all know she wasn’t like this when Tamar was there

  • @kaaay40
    @kaaay40 4 года назад +2906

    🗣 “If we could learn pronouns, we could learn not to say the n word!” 🗣👏🏾

    • @billyg3254
      @billyg3254 4 года назад +65

      She went awfff

    • @xbeautyofmakeup
      @xbeautyofmakeup 4 года назад +52

      she was speakin facts

    • @jahawalgern8273
      @jahawalgern8273 4 года назад +6

      Billy G periodddtttt

    • @carter_cam5532
      @carter_cam5532 4 года назад +28

      HUNGRYFoodie you obviously did not HEAR what she was saying... Thank u, next

    • @theacademyofsivasamoa
      @theacademyofsivasamoa 4 года назад +22

      The difference is transwomen don't go around calling themselves HE and then expecting you NOT to. There's a difference. Y'all tried it.

  • @BlkOnyx0508
    @BlkOnyx0508 4 года назад +790

    I Agree with Lonnie 110%. Its derogatory. Period.

    • @mcmandy086
      @mcmandy086 4 года назад +35

      What I don't understand is, how come that woman says that when rappers use it, they are "sharing their story" if rap songs tend to be obsene and violent (not all of them). I don't think that when a rapper raps about being horny and uses the N word, he is "sharing" the history that comes with the N word. What he/she is doing is cashing in and willingly and knowingly recording these lines for the entire world to consume.

    • @asiamnow6832
      @asiamnow6832 4 года назад

      same

    • @cynthiap.2573
      @cynthiap.2573 4 года назад +7

      mcmandy086 BECAUSE THE RAPPER IS BLACK AND HE CAN. that is his right. black people took the slur and made it their own. no one else can say it or should want to. it’s not that hard to understand.

    • @schojdfjf6495
      @schojdfjf6495 3 года назад +3

      @Mr. Beans it’s sorta like making lemons into lemonade and taking that word back from the people that used it to oppress them

    • @livinlife8280
      @livinlife8280 2 месяца назад

      I actually agree with Loni

  • @DeborahWalkerXOXO
    @DeborahWalkerXOXO 4 года назад +714

    I'm with Loni. We just don't NEED to "own" that word. It shouldn't be erased from books etc of the past, but it shouldn't be something that our elders hear from our mouths. Not when they mostly heard it as an attack.

    • @BIGIMAMA2002
      @BIGIMAMA2002 4 года назад +10

      That's is 💯

    • @ronnie6696
      @ronnie6696 4 года назад +17

      girl racist ppl gonna use that word regardless whether its in a song or not

    • @villanelle1411
      @villanelle1411 4 года назад +8

      @@ronnie6696 so how are we "taking something back" if that's the case?

    • @Goldenxbih
      @Goldenxbih 4 года назад +2

      Bullshit.

    • @Goldenxbih
      @Goldenxbih 4 года назад +4

      Ronnie EXACTLY

  • @JovianEmpress
    @JovianEmpress 4 года назад +3307

    "If we can learn pronouns, then we can learn not to say the N word." Love it.

  • @littlejoe9381
    @littlejoe9381 4 года назад +2191

    Not ALL Black, African American, or people of color use the “n” word among themselves. This word may be considered a cultural thing to some Black people, but not ALL of them use it.

    • @4knewt505
      @4knewt505 4 года назад +20

      not I, said the cat.

    • @noni706
      @noni706 4 года назад +12

      Exactly up to them though

    • @Amber_Aviva
      @Amber_Aviva 4 года назад +20

      Little Joe I agree with you bc elderly people might be triggered by it

    • @CoCo-js7ff
      @CoCo-js7ff 4 года назад +89

      I'm black I don't like anyone black, white or purple calling me that. I don't like the term whether it's with an a or er. But to each its own.

    • @yahainHotPink
      @yahainHotPink 4 года назад +20

      Exactly!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I hate that word!!

  • @aishariel9924
    @aishariel9924 4 года назад +479

    Amanda is a very smart individual, but I can’t stand her. We just have completely different views. I agree with Loni 💯. Even Oprah said Black ppl should not use it amongst themselves to diminish the use of the word in pop culture. Why do Black ppl want to say it so much if it’s so offensive? And why is it not ok for a non-black person to discuss about race? If Black ppl want inclusivity, it starts with open conversation.

    • @teameta7823
      @teameta7823 4 года назад +24

      I totally agree. Either don't use the word at all, or expect all people to say it, even though it's wrong.

    • @HairByPierre
      @HairByPierre 4 года назад +17

      Amanda explained why..... she said black ppl use it to take the derogatory word from the oppressor and use it to express their black experience/turn it into empowerment. So why would we be okay with someone who is not black using it? It’s our empowerment not theirs. Personally I don’t like the word, the word to me = ignorant. But as a black persons I understand the cultural meaning she’s expressing

    • @TheDemisemismiles
      @TheDemisemismiles 4 года назад +25

      HairByPierre my question is....why would you want to use that word? Imagine (if you believe) after death you meet your ancestors and are like “my n****a” or “whats up n****a”. Imagine how disgusted and disappointed they would be? This word was used during beatings, lynchings etc.... I just don’t understand why you continue to say it?

    • @montana8779
      @montana8779 4 года назад +12

      Aish, the reason why black people say the word has nothing to do with anybody else, besides blacks, and it does not need to be explained. It is okay for a non-black person to discuss race, just not the black race. This is simply because a non-black person has not lived the black experience. Therefore, they cannot speak on the struggles or the experiences of black people. The black experience is wayyyyy more layered than what a non-black person can observe. Not understand, but observe. If a non-black person understood blacks, they’d also know the origin of the word and would be sensitive to it. And therefore, choose not to use it. I can never understand why non-black races would choose to say one word that could potentially offend someone else. Also, black people are PASSED inclusivity, what we want is equality, which is a difference. Now it seems that non-black people want to be inclusive with blacks, but they are still not invited to say that word.. And lastly, the black community has disowned Oprah, so her opinion on blackness doesn’t even matter. I hope this helps❤️

    • @HairByPierre
      @HairByPierre 4 года назад +3

      TheDemisemismiles reread my whole statement.

  • @joelsotelo2437
    @joelsotelo2437 4 года назад +322

    I feel like loni was trying to say you gotta be the change you if you wanna see a change. like change up the lyrics from that to something else so it doesn’t give anyone a chance to be saying it “accidentally”. idk I fr feel tho i don’t use the word nor do i like it but i feel like i side with loni hard coreee

    • @jasonxavier2030
      @jasonxavier2030 4 года назад

      Joel sotelo you’re cute

    • @YourLittleBluebird
      @YourLittleBluebird 4 года назад +14

      That is a different conversation though, one which non-black people like Gina Rodriguez play NO part in. People who are not black cannot say the word. Period.

    • @user-es1lm1lm7q
      @user-es1lm1lm7q 4 года назад

      @@jasonxavier2030 😏

    • @Fueunachimba
      @Fueunachimba 3 года назад +7

      But that doesn't make any sense though because we're not trying to prevent black people from saying it, we're trying to prevent people who aren't black from saying it. We're not trying to ban the word altogether

    • @natalieh8023
      @natalieh8023 3 года назад

      Same

  • @michiahnaylor7476
    @michiahnaylor7476 4 года назад +1914

    This has been the most heated debate on the show 😂

    • @JudgeDredd_
      @JudgeDredd_ 4 года назад +21

      True and the facts are ain’t nobody trippin off of what homegrl said.

    • @yandhi_6382
      @yandhi_6382 4 года назад +20

      @@JudgeDredd_ I hurd she's anti black or doesn't associate herself with her black woman and that's a problem

    • @JudgeDredd_
      @JudgeDredd_ 4 года назад +21

      YTM_ Facade I’m literally looking across the room from several white coworkers who hate my black ass but I don’t care if they wanna rap some lyrics especially if it’s the Fugees Hahahaha. Ain’t nobody trippin. Its people out here trying to get money and eat tonight in these streets

    • @umaroof3708
      @umaroof3708 4 года назад +1

      Omg totally agree!!!

    • @stephaniesantiago7490
      @stephaniesantiago7490 4 года назад +4

      @@yandhi_6382 whether her stupid ass wants to admit she black or not she is 😂 and shes ignorant you want to say the word but dont want to admit that u have black in you. Just stupid

  • @Blackmixdwitblack
    @Blackmixdwitblack 4 года назад +3410

    Everyone looks afraid of loni but Amanda wasn’t having it

    • @Asylashai
      @Asylashai 4 года назад +209

      tbh😂 the point is Amanda was bold enough to argue with Loni and no one else is ever. I think that’s what you’re saying in ur comment 💀

    • @heklapilar200
      @heklapilar200 4 года назад +81

      worldoftrowa she was not.
      black people can say whatever they want. white people are selfish n can’t pause for a second for a song ?!?
      that’s bullshit. it’s a word that nonblack people shouldnt be saying and that’s on that.
      if nonblack people have a problem with it then they shouldn’t be listening to music with that word.

    • @laurelfelipe
      @laurelfelipe 4 года назад +34

      I'm good on not saying that word, I'm with Loni though because I really don't like that word but I see what you all are saying about just don't listen. Is it worth it to continue to separate "races" like that though? You can be proud and powerful amoung non black people without creating a sort of black only, for lack of a better word, club of sorts. Before you say I don't understand and judge me for it she clearly said it wasn't for non black people to understand. It is just my opinion. It doesn't matter what people group you come from I love everyone and support everyone to my best ability.

    • @Facelessentertainmentlg
      @Facelessentertainmentlg 4 года назад +34

      ACTUALLY, I DID NOT SEE ANY FEAR AND AMANDA DID NOT PHASE ME. #LONIISRIGHT

    • @tealusional4494
      @tealusional4494 4 года назад +36

      Amanda and Jeanie and Adrienne are obviously very smart. Some people think the more they talk, the smarter they are when they're just talking in circles trying to confuse you while in their minds they search for trigger words like "Michael Jackson". It's like writing an essay with bullshit words but verbally with no research. Loni is a comedian?, so I wonder if she's ever used it in her comedy to express herself, I'll have to youtube deep dive & If so, that would make this conversation pretty hypocritical. Its like Loni considers herself the voice of blackness on the panel but she's pretty ignorant. She's not my spokesperson. She presents confidence but it just isn't genuine. I guess she's trying to prove a point but it's not sharp enough 💁🏽

  • @jackieburns2001
    @jackieburns2001 4 года назад +252

    Loni you were absolutely correct. The word was never meant in the fashion it is used today and too many people are comfortable with it. THat's a problem.!

  • @Tay-cg1pt
    @Tay-cg1pt 4 года назад +71

    I feel like only the young ones on this board are having trouble understanding the validity and soundness of Loni’s perspective. This generation is so watered down.

  • @nijerikagreen8033
    @nijerikagreen8033 4 года назад +1873

    I feel like Jeannie had the most common sense answer to this whole situation. We’re all humans and, for the most part, capable of using our brains so why is it so hard for someone to just not say a word???

    • @brumtownmiller6130
      @brumtownmiller6130 4 года назад +80

      nijerika green why is it so hard not to say it for black folk! Loni was tight, no other race uses racial slurs as a term of endearment!

    • @ABIIIIisVICKY
      @ABIIIIisVICKY 4 года назад +12

      Brumtown Milla we dont all use it sir, so dont even generalise on that count, why do you feel so entitled to say it 🤢

    • @jesussaves4634
      @jesussaves4634 4 года назад +18

      100% what Jeannie said! I dont listen to secular music at all any more, but when I did or when I was singing along I never said the word because it just felt wrong and I didn't feel OK with using it even though it was part of the song.

    • @jeremiahtray5621
      @jeremiahtray5621 4 года назад +34

      You're the reason why I say common sense is dead. Common sense is not using the word at all. Rapper, black, white etc. Just don't use the word. If it's in the song people are going to go with it. That's common sense.

    • @jeremiahtray5621
      @jeremiahtray5621 4 года назад +17

      @@jesussaves4634 But why put it in the song? That's stupid.

  • @milahgoode
    @milahgoode 4 года назад +4068

    Loni Love is not here for it lol. She wouldn’t back down. I respect her for that, and I share the same option. Please stop saying the N word. It’s a slur. Not a term of endearment

    • @OrangeMilkBlossom
      @OrangeMilkBlossom 4 года назад +141

      E.X.A.C.T.L.Y. I wish no one would use the word. End of.

    • @jarvarisgreene70
      @jarvarisgreene70 4 года назад +66

      She is dating a white man..what you expect?

    • @breh2001
      @breh2001 4 года назад +82

      if its a slur to u then don't use it. but its a term of endearment for other black people and i don't think we should just erase that.

    • @jarvarisgreene70
      @jarvarisgreene70 4 года назад +22

      @@christylouis2611 yes it does..she always dismiss black issues.

    • @clementine8397
      @clementine8397 4 года назад +13

      jarvaris greene this is the first white man she’s dated.

  • @jhonathanpitty6157
    @jhonathanpitty6157 4 года назад +288

    Im with Lonnie, they want to put it in all the records and in jokes and movies. If you don’t want others to repeat it , don’t put it out there of the world to use it !

    • @Sonicxis4ever
      @Sonicxis4ever 4 года назад +2

      Exactly

    • @brendanb7729
      @brendanb7729 4 года назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @Princetonlove34
      @Princetonlove34 4 года назад +15

      No! Just don't say the f*cking word, it's not that hard

    • @MeMe-ht2hd
      @MeMe-ht2hd 4 года назад +3

      A lot of blacks are against it but Artist and Producers okay it in music and movies

    • @kavaniawilson860
      @kavaniawilson860 2 года назад +1

      Exactly

  • @biancastorm6570
    @biancastorm6570 4 года назад +280

    100% agree with Lonnie on this one!!!! Stop using it period. I do believe it's too far gone now in the rap industry- But record companies can change this moving forward "if they cared".

  • @lexdavis99
    @lexdavis99 4 года назад +2363

    Somebody said “ Loni Got A White Man and Don’t Know How To Act “ 🥴 I’m Weak 🤣🤣🤣😭

    • @Davidvr723
      @Davidvr723 4 года назад +3

      when was did lmao

    • @toodiecolormebadd8021
      @toodiecolormebadd8021 4 года назад +11

      Where is the lie 🤣🤣

    • @user-dl9lq4ez9x
      @user-dl9lq4ez9x 4 года назад +36

      Lex Davis who she is having sex with has nothing to do with it 👀

    • @kimberlythomas8964
      @kimberlythomas8964 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😩

    • @Imokayluv
      @Imokayluv 4 года назад +72

      Loni can state her opinion on the use of this word without getting told that she doesn't know how to act. I'm so sick of people attacking Loni for no reason and I'm tired of people attacking those who have a differing opinion than the majority.

  • @deej3162
    @deej3162 4 года назад +1665

    I just don’t understand why non black people wanna say the word so bad

    • @wavethewolf8576
      @wavethewolf8576 4 года назад +62

      Because they think they're all about that life.

    • @CharliEdwards
      @CharliEdwards 4 года назад +190

      I don’t understand why black people wanna say it so bad.

    • @Jehu_Adonai
      @Jehu_Adonai 4 года назад +51

      They hate feeling excluded

    • @xafahxafah1476
      @xafahxafah1476 4 года назад +44

      cuz they wanna b black and act like their black to b part of the pop culture wave is all. to non blacks it sum cool to say.

    • @stellamanurung519
      @stellamanurung519 4 года назад +14

      the same with why rapper use bitch and hoe on their lyrics? and then sell a millions albums

  • @emmyabreu9564
    @emmyabreu9564 4 года назад +117

    I completely agree with Loni 🙌🏽 Amanda is totally wrong for being so close minded and thinking her perspective is the only one that counts

    • @annemhembere1601
      @annemhembere1601 4 года назад +9

      Emmy Abreu, I totally agree with you. Amanda thinks she is the most educated one amongst all them.

    • @dianamelissa6100
      @dianamelissa6100 4 года назад +1

      Yeah totally agreed with you

    • @Peter-hz5nk
      @Peter-hz5nk 4 года назад +1

      100th like :)

    • @ajatattyana3205
      @ajatattyana3205 3 года назад

      Disagree

  • @Raquel-rg8eq
    @Raquel-rg8eq 4 года назад +22

    Im latina i switch the word to “brotha , sista “

  • @daniellesanders9677
    @daniellesanders9677 4 года назад +1857

    Jeannie Mai should not understand more than Loni.

    • @staffordduncan2821
      @staffordduncan2821 4 года назад +73

      U said it right because Jenny gave the best answer in my opinion

    • @winleel
      @winleel 4 года назад +93

      Absolutely sis!! Jeannie is ALWAYS so insightful. She’s open in a way that Loni never is.

    • @kennethdavis1766
      @kennethdavis1766 4 года назад +70

      Also Jeannie is with a black man so she understands and has educated herself with our experience. Kudos to her for that.

    • @tashboog
      @tashboog 4 года назад +1

      Danielle Sanders for fact 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @tashboog
      @tashboog 4 года назад +5

      Telisha3 Claiborne damn this was ON POINT.. well said 👏🏾

  • @NeckyMinaj
    @NeckyMinaj 4 года назад +833

    Just like Adrienne said... If you have to second quess yourself about using a certain word.. That should tell you right there that maybe you shouldn't say it. #commonsenseppl✨

    • @NeckyMinaj
      @NeckyMinaj 4 года назад +6

      Common sense ain't to common

    • @vlo4829
      @vlo4829 4 года назад +2

      But why are you second guessing yourself? Is it because you're "racist" or because some hypocritical idiot might be around faking outrage?

    • @elyrose4090
      @elyrose4090 4 года назад +2

      💯💯💯

    • @brumtownmiller6130
      @brumtownmiller6130 4 года назад

      Common sense word not to use that word at all! NO OTHER RACE USES SLURS AS A TERM OF ENDEARMENT! We deadass dumb as other races think we are!

  • @antoinethegemini4268
    @antoinethegemini4268 4 года назад +140

    "If we can learn pronouns we can learn not to say the N-Word" --Amanda Seals: Thank you, always wanna make accommodations for EVERYONE except black ppl.

    • @rosesmiles2384
      @rosesmiles2384 3 года назад +1

      No one else makes music with their derogatory terms in it except black people. Shouldn’t be using it at all because the original meaning isn’t even the same anymore in the songs and white people don’t get it

  • @vaniacastillo2465
    @vaniacastillo2465 4 года назад +33

    I'm with you, Loni.

  • @LailahLynnTV
    @LailahLynnTV 4 года назад +748

    I grew up using that word but I had to let it go. It’s not worth defending.

    • @shanda01114
      @shanda01114 4 года назад +15

      Lailah, Lailah, Lailah, tells it all. Nice to see you here! 😁

    • @adoll6173
      @adoll6173 4 года назад +3

      Lailah Lynn shut up

    • @chosenone3527
      @chosenone3527 4 года назад +25

      @@adoll6173 You shut up

    • @CreativelyKia
      @CreativelyKia 4 года назад +8

      Lailah Lynn yeah I just think there more important things to worry about. Like Gina in my opinion shouldn’t be canceled because ppl love to choose when and if that offends them. Atleast she’s Latina if she was white it def would not have been okay for me lol

    • @dianaj2110
      @dianaj2110 4 года назад +12

      @@CreativelyKia The issue is Gina distance her self from the black community previously and said she does not consider herself black. So if she made it a point to clarify she doesn't identify as black, she needs to make it a point not to say the n word.

  • @NerdyBird99
    @NerdyBird99 4 года назад +1371

    Rule of thumb: Don’t say the word if you have the privilege of NOT having to deal with the day-to-day systematic racism and micro aggressions that come along with it.

    • @Dem0nD0ll
      @Dem0nD0ll 4 года назад +21

      Miss Divine The victim mentality doesn’t look good on you 🤣🤣

    • @HairByPierre
      @HairByPierre 4 года назад +64

      Fok Julie the oppressive mentality don’t look good on you boo

    • @ImJustShayeB
      @ImJustShayeB 4 года назад +6

      Say that sis

    • @mcbuckets813
      @mcbuckets813 4 года назад +9

      So why do mixed people say it ? Mixed people don’t see the same type of racism and discrimination that dark skinned people do cause they’re so damn attractive. Being good looking leads to a lot of privilege unfortunately. I mean Amanda and Adriana damn near look like sister yet one can use it and the other can’t ?

    • @Goldenxbih
      @Goldenxbih 4 года назад +25

      Mr Mime mixed people are the best looking people on the planet? Lmao I’m not going to read any further.

  • @nissa6864
    @nissa6864 4 года назад +122

    Amanda is too damn arrogant and needs to let people talk.

    • @therebelsunflower
      @therebelsunflower 4 года назад +7

      Camara Rhodes it’s not just emotional for her. She has a degree in African American studies.

    • @victoriasmith2965
      @victoriasmith2965 4 года назад +4

      Djenissa Polynice its a screaming match now ever since she came on the show. Can't stand it. They all are yelling over eachother.

    • @fayestaunton3679
      @fayestaunton3679 4 года назад +7

      na she's not she just spitting facts, look at the end of the video Loni made the same point that Amanda was speaking about, u just need to listen.

    • @spirituallyyoung5295
      @spirituallyyoung5295 4 года назад +3

      She's intelligent and bringing a different perspective to the group

    • @spirituallyyoung5295
      @spirituallyyoung5295 4 года назад +3

      @@therebelsunflower yes!!! Amanda is an intelligent woman.....

  • @somebody13324
    @somebody13324 3 года назад +21

    I agree with Loni, imagine in like 20 years or something when new young generations comes along and they hear the word they’re not gonna think that it’s bad and can only be said by a specific group of people. It just needs to go away

    • @marianaya5824
      @marianaya5824 Год назад

      It does not need to go away. Black people need to stay in touch with our history and the lessons we learned in the past and also understand our artist's use of the word. Again, non-black people who say the words WANT to say the word.

  • @rachel28denise
    @rachel28denise 4 года назад +77

    I'm black and I can't stand that word with a passion.

    • @ziarrahshabazz9443
      @ziarrahshabazz9443 4 года назад +8

      rachel28denise Same here 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад +10

      The same! It is beyond me the resistence by some Black American in fighting to use the N word. In their minds it makes complete sense.

    • @kailyn7895
      @kailyn7895 4 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @kovuBee
      @kovuBee 4 года назад

      I don't typically use the word, but I completely understand the people who do. It's just understanding that the word means something completely different depending on who says it. It means "black brother" among black folks bc we are all a family, a community who was oppressed together and still face with the aftermath together. It's not inferior among each other, it's empowering by uniting us. Therefore, it's just wrong when someone outside of that community uses it.

    • @Dem0nD0ll
      @Dem0nD0ll 4 года назад

      Chips That’s being a hypocrite.

  • @vanfran9857
    @vanfran9857 4 года назад +683

    “ if we can learn pronouns then we can not say the n-word” woah

  • @Keyeradraws
    @Keyeradraws 4 года назад +91

    I agree with Loni. The girl to her right, I see what she means but I just don’t agree with her at all. Thank god she quit.

  • @ms.moniquebrown6754
    @ms.moniquebrown6754 4 года назад +29

    NOBODY should be saying the N Word. PERIOD! I thought Amanda had more sense than that. Loni was 100% RIGHT. Signed: A Black Woman.

  • @jazzmayne6
    @jazzmayne6 4 года назад +1535

    Amanda needs to stay on there, I live how she was opposed to Loni lol like finally someone speaks up and I completely side with Amanda! I am Mexican and I know I have no business using that word.

    • @LalaMiyagi
      @LalaMiyagi 4 года назад +12

      jazzmayne6 facts

    • @mitchellmanicone190
      @mitchellmanicone190 4 года назад +8

      @B3llet Truth no

    • @victoriadykes8311
      @victoriadykes8311 4 года назад +35

      jazzmayne6 point is the N Word still holds the same meaning rather it ends With an A or Er.... Not a term of endearment it’s offensive. Amanda is ignorant and can’t handle the opinions of other people when it comes to ones that don’t match up to hers... I have a feeling she won’t be on there very long

    • @sweetrisse
      @sweetrisse 4 года назад +14

      I so agree. She is not afraid to speak up

    • @nhoyte6955
      @nhoyte6955 4 года назад +1

      Preach

  • @adelesmith7068
    @adelesmith7068 4 года назад +222

    Love these types of debates where there's a difference in opinion, both Loni and Amanda giving strong points and showing passion then when it's all said and done, they agree to disagree then move.

  • @theordinarylifeofadreamer
    @theordinarylifeofadreamer 4 года назад +41

    here's my question though, if the word is an offensive word that insults the black man, why do they still have to keep calling themselves that same word that brings back so many historical bad memories?

    • @victoriasmith2965
      @victoriasmith2965 4 года назад +6

      Sweater Girl I don't understand that either. They love calling eachother the same word that was super derogatory in the past.

    • @Mychelupis
      @Mychelupis 4 года назад +2

      Exactly

    • @sofrshsocln4
      @sofrshsocln4 4 года назад +6

      Same reason a group of females/gay males calling themselves bitch wouldn't be having a straight dude join in. They're not part of the group, not part of the culture

    • @sailorhamlett
      @sailorhamlett 4 года назад +3

      It’s called reclaiming a word and taking the power back from the oppressor.

    • @Sonicxis4ever
      @Sonicxis4ever 4 года назад +1

      I’m black and I never use the N word. It’s derogatory. Just because we’re using it in a different way in modern days doesn’t mean the true meaning isn’t behind it. I’m also gay and could never use the F word to describe myself or another gay person. I was bullied all throughout high school and now if I hear that word all I hear is hatred

  • @janeenkuffler83
    @janeenkuffler83 3 года назад +38

    I’m with Loni on this one. Never felt empowered by this word and never will. I feel we are hurting the Black community more than uplifting by this word that was never made to uplift us but target us and belittle us. We should be questioning this word more than anything Period.

  • @aka1r
    @aka1r 4 года назад +475

    loni said “carry the 1” 😂😂

    • @jeminkim5146
      @jeminkim5146 4 года назад +2

      what does that mean

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад

      Yes, what does it mean????

    • @sonatashinome4672
      @sonatashinome4672 4 года назад +1

      I’ve only heard African people use it 😂😂
      She’s basically saying you can do whatever with it but...

  • @ranaewill1885
    @ranaewill1885 4 года назад +186

    When I was a kid, I was able to sing rap songs, not daring to slip out a cuss word in front of my mom or by myself. If you don’t say it on the regular, it’s extremely hard to just let it “slip out”. It’s so simple to just not say it.

    • @JoJo-op5xy
      @JoJo-op5xy 4 года назад +3

      She’s a Latina from nyc she had a pass to say it. She probably grow up with that word. The problem was all the previous stuff she said before was anti black.

    • @ranaewill1885
      @ranaewill1885 4 года назад +4

      HowE Lee yea I understand that, I’m just saying for other cases. I should have made that clear.

    • @MH-et4bo
      @MH-et4bo 4 года назад +1

      HowE Lee there is no universal past

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад

      That's you and not everybody thinks, operates or is as disciplined as you. If it wasn't in the song, especially with the negative feelings about the N word, people wouldn't be able to sing aong with what was said.
      If you don't want your children/teenager/relatives to see/use/talk about your adult toys, you don't leave them lying around the house.Even though it is your house and you pay the mortgage. Period.

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад

      @@JoJo-op5xy 100% FACT. Where is the outrage for Cardi B making a living using the N word???
      People made a stink about her using roaches but NOT the N word.
      If Gina was a rapper, would she get a pass? Irrespective of whether she was Black or not.

  • @kamirinc
    @kamirinc 3 года назад +12

    Did they even share their thoughts about Gina saying it tho lol Amanda was the only one reminding them “this specific issue”

  • @jolivar9141
    @jolivar9141 4 года назад +23

    Honestly nothing was addressed... Amanda got all mad as Loni was trying to make a point and that’s how it ended.

    • @zaria1758
      @zaria1758 4 года назад +9

      julissa Olivares bc loni was wrong. loni be the loudest one and be so wrong. lonis point was invalid at the end bc she contradicted herself

  • @leahmay1506
    @leahmay1506 4 года назад +919

    “If we can learn to say pronouns, we can learn not to say the N word.” On period 💯💯

    • @emanipettiford868
      @emanipettiford868 4 года назад +1

      Naw

    • @hottea9546
      @hottea9546 4 года назад +12

      Yeah now I wish a lot of black people were so adamant about Actually being respectful to use the proper pronouns as much as they want people to stop using the N word.

    • @leahmay1506
      @leahmay1506 4 года назад +4

      GutterPunk I agree!! But the point is that people can learn... hopefully one day we’re all on the same page.

    • @leahmay1506
      @leahmay1506 4 года назад

      @O what does what mean?

    • @disneytoysr4fun975
      @disneytoysr4fun975 4 года назад +1

      but ain't nobody saying pronouns lol. We don't even like being called cis!(I agree with it).

  • @sarajay7631
    @sarajay7631 4 года назад +173

    I agree with loni, nobody should be using the n word. It’s an awful word and the real meaning can’t be changed.

    • @ShelbieMua
      @ShelbieMua 4 года назад +8

      But it already has been changed by us who changed it ourselves. To tell someone of that ancestry not to use a powerfully positive term is not okay. If any other race chose to take an offensive slur and make it a word of endearment, who are you or anyone else to say it's not okay to use?

    • @feasted2941
      @feasted2941 4 года назад

      Chelle B YOUR the one saying that, LOL.

    • @ShelbieMua
      @ShelbieMua 4 года назад

      @@feasted2941 You're not making much sense to me. What do you mean?

  • @MissNila051486
    @MissNila051486 4 года назад +11

    Everyone forgot about when J-Lo used it when Ja wrote her a song.

    • @bw1190
      @bw1190 3 года назад

      MrsNila0514. She was told to say not by her own admission.

    • @belladonna5904
      @belladonna5904 5 месяцев назад

      She's Puerto Rican and grew up in black neighborhoods.

    • @kmallory99
      @kmallory99 2 месяца назад +1

      NOPE. We didn't forget.

    • @MissNila051486
      @MissNila051486 2 месяца назад

      @@belladonna5904 she still got heat for it

  • @Autumn_Blessings
    @Autumn_Blessings 4 года назад +32

    If I can memorize every kendrick lamar song and never say the n word in my life then you can skip over it too

    • @blakesmith4109
      @blakesmith4109 3 года назад

      Right but this debate isn’t about what you can do, it’s about what you should do. Who has the permission to say the word? Who should be and who shouldn’t be saying the word?

    • @Autumn_Blessings
      @Autumn_Blessings 3 года назад

      @@blakesmith4109 not me

    • @blakesmith4109
      @blakesmith4109 3 года назад

      @@Autumn_Blessings I feel the same way for myself too, and like you said you learn songs without saying it, I would add on I do not sing songs containing such language out loud in public loud spaces either (club/party/bar etc) because people see your lips moving and assume you’re singing all parts of the song.

    • @blakesmith4109
      @blakesmith4109 3 года назад

      @@Autumn_Blessings also would you mind sharing why you choose not say it?

    • @Autumn_Blessings
      @Autumn_Blessings 3 года назад +1

      @@blakesmith4109 I can only control myself not how others perceive me. I don't say it because I don't want to hurt anybody and i understand the history behind it. It's not my word. Not everything is meant for you and that's okay.

  • @angelesfatima2605
    @angelesfatima2605 4 года назад +1196

    Okay everyone was talking at the same time during this segment and it annoyed me lol.

    • @jurnee-y
      @jurnee-y 4 года назад +18

      I was looking for this comment cause I knew it couldn’t be the only one lol

    • @fayepatrice1672
      @fayepatrice1672 4 года назад +26

      And Loni was the biggest culprit

    • @Jerbrousky
      @Jerbrousky 4 года назад +71

      Loni wasn’t the biggest culprit at all Amanda was talking over the whole cast the whole topic.. this topic was a mess! Wish it could’ve been better discussed. Amanda got WAY to in her feelings.

    • @noors7754
      @noors7754 4 года назад +16

      Graffiti Girl amanda spoke facts and was confident!

    • @w.iroses
      @w.iroses 4 года назад +30

      Noor Selim nah she’s ignorant loni should have been allowed to talk more she was spitting facts.

  • @ImariAlayah
    @ImariAlayah 4 года назад +2002

    But SOME gay men call each other the “F” word but when somebody who isn’t gay says it, it’s rude and derogatory... so saying the “N” word if you’re not black is the same thing. Don’t say it if you’re not in that group.. PERIOD
    Please don’t miss the key word SOME..
    The bigger issue is that the woman in the video specifically recorded herself saying the N word in the song AND has a past of doing/saying some weird things when it pertains to the Black community. So a lot of Black people are going to side eye her and be upset.
    Please don’t say we shouldn’t say it if that’s something that SOME Blacks choose to do... I don’t think we should reclaim this derogatory word but WE ALL do and say many things a lot of people think we shouldn’t.
    Thank you, have a blessed day.

    • @IAmVisionXo
      @IAmVisionXo 4 года назад +13

      Imari Alayah period

    • @xdonotenterx
      @xdonotenterx 4 года назад +34

      Tbh tho im a Latino who lives in NY and my whole life I literally thought it was ok for me to say it 😭 my black friends would say it to me I would say it to my black friends I would say it to my Latino friends I would say it to pretty much all my friends regardless of race and use it in daily convos and like wise for them. There was a point in my life where I had to train myself not to use it but it slips out sometimes cause it’s so imbedded in me lol

    • @moisepicard3417
      @moisepicard3417 4 года назад +22

      +Imari Alayah. So, why would you want another black person to call you The N Word? You make no sense.

    • @ImariAlayah
      @ImariAlayah 4 года назад +28

      Moise Picard I never said I would be called that but I say it. The point is don’t say it if you’re not Black... goodbye

    • @denisfl04
      @denisfl04 4 года назад +28

      Imari Alayah I’m sorry I’m gay and I have never said the “F” word to another person or been called one. Some people use it jokingly but we don’t use it regularly like black people. The most people using the “F” word are straight people because homophobia is still a problem in America just like racism. My friends have told me that I can say the “N” word but I just don’t feel like I have the right to say it either.

  • @caaa825
    @caaa825 3 года назад +8

    Loni looked she was ready to throw Amanda off the stage lol you can read it all over her face

  • @momom4548
    @momom4548 4 года назад +9

    2.52 this is the kind of mentality that's creating more division.

  • @reshmasomething
    @reshmasomething 4 года назад +381

    Some people would refuse to say Voldemort's name but wanna say the N word 😑😑

  • @jhaisuhmone8323
    @jhaisuhmone8323 4 года назад +436

    I’m black and I personally don’t use the word.

    • @MrGamecatCanaveral
      @MrGamecatCanaveral 4 года назад +5

      @@agathejoseph845 um it's Africa Americans. Not black.

    • @alexanderbrown2717
      @alexanderbrown2717 4 года назад

      Jhai Suhmone what word?

    • @patriciacolors7178
      @patriciacolors7178 4 года назад +17

      No it is Black American or A.D.O.S.African American is an African immigrant to the U.S.A. Not people who have been here for 400 years.

    • @jhaisuhmone8323
      @jhaisuhmone8323 4 года назад +1

      Alexander Brown the N word

    • @jhaisuhmone8323
      @jhaisuhmone8323 4 года назад +1

      Agathe Joseph SAME!

  • @darkangel79413
    @darkangel79413 4 года назад +41

    I don't really care much for Amanda being on The Real, she is a highly intellectual woman but she can be extremely close-minded at times. I agree with Loni - and why is it that black Americans choose to use a racial slur as a "cultural colloquialism" anyways? I think black or not -- no one should be using the word.

  • @aimeem.h5909
    @aimeem.h5909 4 года назад +3

    I remember sitting in the living room one night and my dad had a couple of friends over they were playing dominoes. They hadn't seen this one friend for a while he had been away on work to another country. At one point when they were laughing and joking, someone used the N word towards him, and he just sort of smiled and said, "man dont call me that no more" I remembered everyone thinking "wtf" I'm 30 now and can now completely get why he said it.

  • @amrhm6481
    @amrhm6481 4 года назад +560

    Kind of agree with Loni , if artists stop using the word so much , people would use it less

    • @BodyMindfulRelaxation
      @BodyMindfulRelaxation 4 года назад +44

      Yes I'm with Loni, stop using the word point blank. We can't fight racism if words like this still exist where only a certain group can say it. It still creates segregation. We are one race, the human race!

    • @nessawithsmiles
      @nessawithsmiles 4 года назад +30

      Amr Hm People have brains... don’t use the word it isn’t mean for you. Do you do everything songs say?

    • @endlesschapters9185
      @endlesschapters9185 4 года назад +25

      It is way too late for that. Way too many passes given. Even if they stopped using it in songs The usage of that word would still continue in everyday life just as much as before

    • @blackenvy983
      @blackenvy983 4 года назад +4

      Loni sounds like she's okay with cultural appropriation smh

    • @missmack2328
      @missmack2328 4 года назад +2

      So i guess rap was really popular on the plantation

  • @supreemcourt9181
    @supreemcourt9181 4 года назад +467

    This debate is forever. The thing about debates is there’s NEVER a final answer for it, it’s jus people sharing perspectives...

    • @santanaoutlaw
      @santanaoutlaw 4 года назад +13

      The final answer is, & has always been, don’t say it if you’re not back.

    • @Aylaa382
      @Aylaa382 4 года назад +6

      Supreem Court well common sense says if you ain’t black don’t say it unless you want problems 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @supreemcourt9181
      @supreemcourt9181 4 года назад +2

      @Ericka Chapman theres people that are mixed with black, but dont look black, that will feel entitled to say it and they'll debate u

    • @angel-ti7nd
      @angel-ti7nd 4 года назад

      there shouldn’t be a debate. if u not black DONT SAY IT wtf is that hard part?

    • @supreemcourt9181
      @supreemcourt9181 4 года назад +2

      @@angel-ti7ndwell this show has a whole segment on it

  • @Shalayah2010
    @Shalayah2010 4 года назад +51

    “If we can learn pronouns we can learn not to say the N-word”.... go Amanda. That statement was conveniently looked over.

  • @gaila.9852
    @gaila.9852 4 года назад +18

    As far as I know, MJ wasn't Jewish, so Loni's example was irrelevant.

    • @airforceshadow765
      @airforceshadow765 4 года назад +3

      Gail A. Loni has a point

    • @gaila.9852
      @gaila.9852 4 года назад +5

      Heyy Mars How? MJ used a Jewish slur. He was not Jewish. Lauryn Hill used the “n” word. She is black.

  • @yonwabasive6269
    @yonwabasive6269 4 года назад +656

    "If you're unsure about using the word, DONT USE IT"

    • @servingtea8483
      @servingtea8483 4 года назад +10

      Yonwaba Sive exactly

    • @luciusleft-foot2386
      @luciusleft-foot2386 4 года назад +5

      How are you going to enforce that in other people's communities tho

    • @olivianwaokocha5955
      @olivianwaokocha5955 4 года назад +7

      @@luciusleft-foot2386 by calling people out. Its not fair if non POC are still using it against black people but want to claim it in a song. Can't have both

    • @DevilDaRebel
      @DevilDaRebel 4 года назад +7

      Liv Non POC? You mean someone who is not BLACK? Are you scared of the word black?

    • @luciusleft-foot2386
      @luciusleft-foot2386 4 года назад +1

      @@olivianwaokocha5955 and what happens when people stop caring? Because there is a thing called activism fatigue. All anyone ever has to do is get more people to say it to drown out the people who don't want you to say it. Why even bother with it. This is a losing battle and it's been lost since you could sell the word via rap. People paying for music don't want to be told they can't sing a specific word. So rappers are going to acquiesce to the majority that support them than the minority that they are, because that's how capitalism works.

  • @xoxo9479
    @xoxo9479 4 года назад +134

    if we can learn pronouns then we can learn not to use it !!!! PERIODTT

  • @oreovega4ever
    @oreovega4ever 4 года назад

    I'm really loving the real lately like seriously!!🤪🤪😝

  • @qiyamahl9255
    @qiyamahl9255 4 года назад +4

    Loni is definitely on to something ... Aside from the artists themselves, the RECORD COMPANIES are profiting off it!! So as a people, we CAN do better. We can elevate our "terms of endearment"

  • @courtskirk4881
    @courtskirk4881 4 года назад +275

    “If we can learn pronouns, and people can learn not to say the n-word” and I oop-

    • @glove3694
      @glove3694 4 года назад +12

      Did she lie tho

    • @youtubeuseri57
      @youtubeuseri57 4 года назад +6

      Courtskirk plenty of people don’t say pronouns though

    • @thr3385
      @thr3385 4 года назад

      Bitches could barely learn pronouns

    • @katiem4539
      @katiem4539 4 года назад +3

      THIS PART!!!!!!!! EXACTLY. If we can call Bruce Jenner SHE, then dude. You can skip the N word in a song out of respect for a culture of people.

    • @mia8009
      @mia8009 4 года назад

      Case closed right there!!!

  • @kenya_bravo
    @kenya_bravo 4 года назад +494

    I agree with loni 100%
    I understand that the word is hurtful but again people take what others put out. We need to be more aware in general.

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад +15

      Totally agree with Loni. 100%. We need to take responsibility for what WE put out there.
      We are selling music to the World with the word 'N----r' in every sentence but irrationally telling the world hey don't repeat what we said in the song because it degrades us and is a racial slur! Whaaaaat?!

    • @funkylilmouse
      @funkylilmouse 4 года назад +4

      Exactly. People in the comment section are saying she's whitewashed but they forget that as an engineer she's a very rational person, this is simply how she processes information. And I have to agree with her. We can't dismiss logic on this topic just because of cultural patterns... is saying the N-word necessary? No. Does it elevate Black people? No. So we can just get rid of it altogether.

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад

      @@funkylilmouse Absolutely.

    • @CJ-dg3bm
      @CJ-dg3bm 4 года назад

      To a certain degree I do agree as far as some things in the black community should be strictly kitchen table talk. But even sayong that, there is no excuse for someone to use that word and then turn around and act surprised if it has offended someone
      ...how assinine.

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 4 года назад +2

      @@CJ-dg3bm I think we are so selective in our outrage. We had no problem with people singing along to songs that black artists filled with racial slurs yesterday but we're outraged today! That is why people are surprised we are offended.

  • @katel3259
    @katel3259 4 года назад +44

    The same people who say “people of a minority race can’t be racist” are the same people saying “Gina isn’t black so she can’t sing the N word”... so hypocritical. I don’t say that word, and don’t want to say that word, but that pisses me off how hypocritical people can be with issues like this

    • @Jay22B
      @Jay22B 4 года назад +3

      Kate L Gina made sure to distance herself from any African heritage she may have so people just following suit.

    • @johnanderson3899
      @johnanderson3899 4 года назад +6

      "People outside that culture don't have to understand it"
      But you get mad when they don't understand and mad when they use it? You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cannot keep repeating and over-using it in pop-culture and expect to control so many people from using it. In an ideal world you will be able to have your cake and eat it, but it's not based on reality. Your idealism is taking over your rationality. The Jews don't use their slur to your extreme, so it's a false comparison when they wish to censor it for others.

  • @bohlalenchabeleng1370
    @bohlalenchabeleng1370 3 года назад +12

    I like how Amanda ruffles our brains, she makes you take many aspects into account. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @andersoncameron771
    @andersoncameron771 4 года назад +443

    I like this topic. It’s real. all of those women up there are intelligent and expressed themselves wonderfully

    • @Idontknowimjusthere
      @Idontknowimjusthere 4 года назад

      Chance Porter 💯

    • @jackulinanton9245
      @jackulinanton9245 4 года назад +1

      Tamera contributed nothing to the convo... she asking questions to clarify for white ppl like she couldn’t answer those questions herseld

    • @rtmusicvideos431
      @rtmusicvideos431 4 года назад +1

      Except they were all talking over each other!

  • @ImAlwaysAshley
    @ImAlwaysAshley 4 года назад +1125

    With Amanda on this one. If 12-year-old can censor themselves to not curse when wrapping lyrics in front of your parents, 32-year-old you can censor yourself to not use the n-word even if it's in a song. I feel like Amanda actually is standing up for what she believes is something that belongs to a particular part of her/our culture and other cultures (as well as those within it who may not agree) don't have the right to tell someone how to maneuver through their own culture. Just disagree and keep it pushin'.

    • @jessicag0695
      @jessicag0695 4 года назад +19

      Completely agree! That’s what I always think of. A lot of children and adults will purposely not curse in their parents’ presence because their parents would see it as a form of disrespect. So non-black people should do the same, but you know why they wouldn’t? Because they do not truly respect black people.

    • @stuffstuffer643
      @stuffstuffer643 4 года назад +16

      I don’t like the word at all. I personally think there is no use for the word. But if anyone can say it, it is black people ONLY.

    • @lulakeepingithonest9614
      @lulakeepingithonest9614 4 года назад +2

      _ImAlwaysAshley but then again those 12 yr olds say it when they alone or with friends just saying

    • @jasonr4486
      @jasonr4486 4 года назад +1

      @@lulakeepingithonest9614 right. That's like saying you can say the n word as long as it's not around black people

    • @pham4796
      @pham4796 4 года назад +2

      Yes! I'm all for calling each other derogatory names 👏 what a great and happy society with all this name calling! You must be proud of yourself 😉 way to go Ashley !

  • @Karicoproductionz
    @Karicoproductionz 4 года назад +5

    I grew up saying the n-word and I know of many Hispanics that did so as well, not in a racist way but to each other talking. But like Adrienne said if its going to leave a crack open for me to look like a racist I dont want to say it! I dont need to say it!

    • @makeupobsessedmommy_
      @makeupobsessedmommy_ 4 года назад

      Kari Guevara I’m so glad you changed your mind. Very mature and most people wouldn’t change much respect !

  • @nasharar6946
    @nasharar6946 4 года назад +2

    " if you are unsure if you should be using the word, don't use it at all "

  • @piscesbxtch7016
    @piscesbxtch7016 4 года назад +998

    “Just because it’s a lyric doesn’t mean you have to sing it” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

    • @Twenty5KDiamond
      @Twenty5KDiamond 4 года назад +34

      Just because it's a word doesn't mean you have to use it or put it in your records!

    • @deeh8064
      @deeh8064 4 года назад +13

      Twenty5KDiamond shut up

    • @rossboss5072
      @rossboss5072 4 года назад +5

      I'm 41y/o so I grew up in a different time from today,but even then the word was controversial amongst black people.my dad,my family would never use the word.I got fly once and used it at the diner table,lets just say I didn't do it again.but his best friend our pastor would use it all the time.my grandfather was killed by the KKK so our family had a different relationship with the word.

    • @Twenty5KDiamond
      @Twenty5KDiamond 4 года назад +1

      @@deeh8064 Trick you shut up! You don't know me, don't get cussed out!

    • @AraceliD95
      @AraceliD95 4 года назад +5

      Than you shouldn't creating peace of shyt music

  • @jdinthehouse3070
    @jdinthehouse3070 4 года назад +394

    This discussion got heated... ☕️

    • @FitFoxxyMama
      @FitFoxxyMama 4 года назад +10

      The n word usually does

    • @unknownunknown4029
      @unknownunknown4029 4 года назад +6

      I don't like Amanda at all. I happen to agree with her on this point, but I still don't like her and wish they would stop having her at the table. She isn't bringing a different or new view...she is just there. BYE!

    • @mimia.4810
      @mimia.4810 4 года назад

      Free Not really.

    • @jdinthehouse3070
      @jdinthehouse3070 4 года назад +1

      unknown unknown I know, I usually like her but I feel like in these recent segments she just comes across as a know it all speaking above the other ladies, like girl take it down a couple notches lol

  • @true20237
    @true20237 3 года назад +14

    I'm with Loni, why continue to use a word that is offensive to your culture and give people the opportunity to have an excuse to use it. There is no good reason to use it, in my opinion. At the end of the day regardless, like Adrienne said if you have to ask yourself if it's ok to say it.. just don't. People act like they don't have enough vocabulary to argue with people. Racist slurs against any culture is stupid and not okay. People need to grow up.. have a better reason not to like someone, their race is not an acceptable one. I don't like hateful people in any color. I choose to be nice and respectful to any human being no matter what they look like, and I choose to dislike people with bad character no matter what they look like. This should be common sense by now. Smh

    • @bryanamiller5490
      @bryanamiller5490 2 года назад

      youre white , don’t speak on black issues.

    • @shaytiajohnson8274
      @shaytiajohnson8274 2 года назад

      Your white pls shut the hell up

    • @pj4941
      @pj4941 2 года назад

      @@shaytiajohnson8274 well I can say it right friend?

  • @latoyalabine4084
    @latoyalabine4084 4 года назад +18

    It is not hard to sing along and skip a word in a song

  • @paballomodisane3159
    @paballomodisane3159 4 года назад +853

    Why do we have to cut the videos into million parts though🤔

    • @mmconceicao
      @mmconceicao 4 года назад +11

      WHYYYYY... @thereal... Just do longer videos

    • @ariela.1752
      @ariela.1752 4 года назад +11

      Views 😂

    • @MRFLAPPYTREE
      @MRFLAPPYTREE 4 года назад +8

      People still making money off the n word lol.

    • @jade9919
      @jade9919 4 года назад

      Cuz they were cussing

    • @roxana4136
      @roxana4136 4 года назад +2

      So they can be trending ...which they are

  • @MsRiquelB
    @MsRiquelB 4 года назад +221

    Loni proved the point at the end .. he’s not Jewish he shouldn’t have used it Gina Rodriguez is not black she can’t use the N word it’s that simple

    • @sharonray3588
      @sharonray3588 4 года назад +5

      Riquel Binion EXACTLY

    • @malh8932
      @malh8932 4 года назад +3

      Riquel Binion exactly

    • @candycandy-xo9ff
      @candycandy-xo9ff 4 года назад +2

      Riquel Binion Yes

    • @christopherwilson868
      @christopherwilson868 4 года назад +42

      Riquel Binion Except Jewish people weren’t mad about him not being Jewish and using word, they were mad because they don’t support the word being used by anyone even themselves because it’s degrading. Do you see the difference there?

    • @yamiirocks
      @yamiirocks 4 года назад +30

      No.. you missed the point. Jewish people made sure he didn't use that word, because they deemed it offensive and were successful in taking down that song. She is saying black people should do the same

  • @twentysvn
    @twentysvn 4 года назад +21

    Oh Loni ... she reached SOOOOO hard at the end with that MJ reference. I hope she stretched first.

  • @summervili547
    @summervili547 4 года назад +5

    Just get rid of the word, stop using it in music, end of story. If it’s such a sensitive and hurtful word it shouldn’t be used anywhere by anyone. Definitely with Loni on this one!

  • @bapper78ross28
    @bapper78ross28 4 года назад +99

    With Loni's logic those singing along with a song will also feel comfortable calling you one when the situation presents itself. A pass will be used freely and without limitations.

    • @ryanp4396
      @ryanp4396 4 года назад +5

      Her point is that the word should not be used anywhere along the spectrum of skin color. That is not to disregard or dismiss the Black experience, which is an issue that direly needs to and should be addressed by all and any party, but to strengthen and further dignify the BIGGER PICTURE OF EQUALITY and essentially live it with dignity. Saying the word should not be used at all does not cancel out the fact that the Black community is and has been treated disproportionately or negate the importance of having these needed conversations about Black rights.

    • @TomikaKelly
      @TomikaKelly 4 года назад

      @@ryanp4396 My goodness, you are superfluous. 🙄
      No one should steal, so I do my part by not stealing. Gina Rodriguez should've done her part but because she didn't, here we are.

    • @ryanp4396
      @ryanp4396 4 года назад

      @@TomikaKelly I'm not defending the actions of the person in this isolated incident... I'm speaking to Loni's point and round out this conversation to address the bigger picture here. It's called having a nuanced perspective. If being open to different ideas is superfluous, then so be it-I'd rather be THAT than shallow-minded and closed off to having a productive conversation, which you clearly aren't interested in having judging from your flippant use of emoji and 'end-of-story' tone.

  • @miickeyzreal
    @miickeyzreal 4 года назад +491

    Very interesting discussion, I’m Latino so that word ain’t for me, I understand what it represents but it’s the first time I see black women have very different opinions on it.

    • @Awomanontheinternet
      @Awomanontheinternet 4 года назад +58

      I mean, why wouldn't they have different opinions? Black folks are not a monolith

    • @al3xx3991
      @al3xx3991 4 года назад +24

      Same as a Latino male I don’t use it but it slips sometimes when I’m singing along. Growing up nobody black cares that I said it but once I got educated on it I stopped using it altogether.

    • @SupernaturalLove100
      @SupernaturalLove100 4 года назад +3

      A woman on the internet
      that part.

    • @RicanPrincess888
      @RicanPrincess888 4 года назад +20

      Baby Latino ain’t a race, is a culture. And pretty much nosostros somos de todo, blancos, negros y nativos. Ellos no entienden eso,

    • @miickeyzreal
      @miickeyzreal 4 года назад +1

      A woman on the internet I agree but usually I see most people have the same opinion. “Don’t say the word if you are not black.” So so ser other opinions, I was surprised, not going to lie. I’m mostly afraid of this conversation.

  • @shandifox
    @shandifox 4 года назад +1

    I can’t believe this is still a conversation.

  • @maliksomers19
    @maliksomers19 3 года назад +2

    I get what Loni is saying and coming from; but I agree with Amanda 100%

  • @eseosaosawe4212
    @eseosaosawe4212 4 года назад +139

    Jeannie made the most sense to me👌🏼

  • @jonnystaydizzy
    @jonnystaydizzy 4 года назад +609

    LONI Said “A, ER, Carry the 1” 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣.

    • @AngelHxze
      @AngelHxze 4 года назад +3

      Jonathan Piper II 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Goldenxbih
      @Goldenxbih 4 года назад +1

      I don’t get it

    • @Morotay
      @Morotay 4 года назад +11

      いきすちそ to Loni it doesn’t matter how ppl reconfigure the word Bc the base of the word is still there and it’s wrong in her opinion to use any variation of the word.

    • @iLeona296
      @iLeona296 2 года назад +1

      That was her comedian coming out 😂😂😂

    • @lonewolfislit
      @lonewolfislit 2 года назад

      I saw this right when she said it 🤣

  • @MrsAmy24.7
    @MrsAmy24.7 2 года назад +1

    What tamera and Loni says it's so true, because sometimes people use it as a homie just like the b word and just saying stuff to others mean nothing but it does mean something hurtful.

  • @Jazzle06
    @Jazzle06 2 года назад +3

    All I know is that I’m Mexican, grew up in Oakland, and I do not use that word and it’s also not my business, or any other community’s business, how the Black community decides to use it.

    • @pj4941
      @pj4941 2 года назад

      Latinos been using it California

  • @anihtek
    @anihtek 4 года назад +363

    The song is like 30 years old, it was a different thing reclaiming the word in the 90s. But seriously we need to retire the word all together. What is the need for it in songs if its not being used for political messages and stuff like that. We use it so freely in our culture that it has lost its meaning to people, and Gina is the effect of it. Remind people of the significance of that word and dont use it so nonchalantly,

    • @deeh8064
      @deeh8064 4 года назад +9

      Daniella H. We need to stop victim blaming , the problem is non black people using the word when they know damn well they shouldn’t . Black people have every right to use the word

    • @ImJerkBoii
      @ImJerkBoii 4 года назад +2

      Except these people know the meaning of the word and its reclaimed status. They understand the significance - many of them - and they use it anyway. Its free use in contemporary black culture is due much in part to its use in the 90s and earlier. Exactly who do you think are the people who are saying it and teaching it to their children.
      The idea that as black people we have to police our culture because other people of other cultures want to emulate ours is ridiculous.

    • @diomondcandie06
      @diomondcandie06 4 года назад +7

      Yes, and honestly even black people use it in a way to talk down to other blacks sometimes. It’s like the word bitch, you could say it to mean your girl friend sometimes, or you could use it to demean someone or describe someone who you feel hate towards. Both words are not always used appropriately.

    • @anihtek
      @anihtek 4 года назад

      ​@@diomondcandie06 Yeah I totally agree.

    • @anihtek
      @anihtek 4 года назад +1

      ​@@ImJerkBoii Its not about policing our culture its about respecting ourselves. Why are we using it towards each other in a demeaning way? The more we use it nonchalantly towards one and other the more we are deluding the significance of the word.

  • @bsweetie2010
    @bsweetie2010 4 года назад +184

    Loni has away of backing out of supporting topics where other races need to be held accountable. If no one ever said it again the people will still say it in there home. The issue is that people are not held accountable for their actions and that some things that are meant for others may not be meant for them.

    • @lindsaylindsay4884
      @lindsaylindsay4884 4 года назад +9

      brittney brown I think she most likely would have had a problem if she had said it in a different context. But in general there’s no reason for ANYONE to say it it’s not a term of endearment on positive in anyway. And it’s mostly African Americans who day it so much. I’m from England and we (black people) don’t say it here

    • @marilynb6698
      @marilynb6698 4 года назад +7

      I’m glad you noticed too.

    • @dgrare100
      @dgrare100 4 года назад +5

      I noticed that too. But you know she has a white BF, so she's comprimised anyway. Happens all the time, when Black people get in relationships with other races of people, they don't go all that hard for other Black people, or the Black race.

    • @luvrule537
      @luvrule537 4 года назад +1

      I don't like her she became stuck up

    • @LiseGood
      @LiseGood 4 года назад +2

      Right!!!!!

  • @baazic2507
    @baazic2507 4 года назад +3

    Don’t make excuses ,don’t capitalize off the word , don’t use it

  • @SoulReaperReisha
    @SoulReaperReisha 3 года назад +7

    Just don’t use the damn word, it doesn’t even make sense

  • @mockingjayonmars
    @mockingjayonmars 4 года назад +245

    Amanda and Jeannie totally get it... their comments were SPOT ON.

    • @KamalIsaiahMorales
      @KamalIsaiahMorales 4 года назад +2

      !!!!

    • @jasonlang9074
      @jasonlang9074 4 года назад +3

      Nope

    • @lulluxury
      @lulluxury 4 года назад +13

      Gabbie exactly loni sound like a Uncle Tom in almost all the race topics they have

    • @joannasaadati8810
      @joannasaadati8810 4 года назад +6

      @@lulluxury She doesn't want her people to call each other a derogatory slur so she's an uncle Tom?? Wow

    • @lulluxury
      @lulluxury 4 года назад +2

      Joanna Aniela I said in some of the segments if you pay attention she against almost all of the black issues they talk about she always saying something negative

  • @MrHlywd
    @MrHlywd 4 года назад +1022

    oooh this show is about to get so much more juicy with Amanda on in 2020. I like the push back!

  • @keishaeller6714
    @keishaeller6714 2 года назад +2

    Loni showed who she is every time. I hope she learns that no Black person can ever tap dance hard enough to appease racists.

  • @Jordishness
    @Jordishness 4 года назад +9

    Jeannie’s a fuqin QUEEN.

  • @JoJo-op5xy
    @JoJo-op5xy 4 года назад +273

    Black people are not the only ones making money off that word. That’s the problem. Smh it makes no sense

    • @mrisleno1744
      @mrisleno1744 4 года назад +15

      HowE Lee But the Artists choose to go on that ride. That word should be banned to end all this drama over a word.

    • @taytayqueen7024
      @taytayqueen7024 4 года назад +14

      That's the thing. 90% of these artists work under major record labels and the money dosn't just go to the artist but also to high ranking white men. But at the end of the day, it's art, and they're allowed to express themselves.

    • @sarax8644
      @sarax8644 4 года назад +1

      Joe Louis Doescher banned for non blacks yes not for black people it was our history and our word to reclaim 😑👋🏽

    • @mrisleno1744
      @mrisleno1744 4 года назад +2

      Dee x Yeah? What about biracial people? Will we have to ask about people’s background before allowing them to use the word?
      The Nazi sign was part of the German history, but it is now banned in the country and the majority of them moved forward.
      If what you truly want is to be respected, not only by non-black people, but by EVERYONE, banning the N word is a step on the right direction.

    • @Hithereitsmee
      @Hithereitsmee 4 года назад

      EXACTLY

  • @ladynita7329
    @ladynita7329 4 года назад +500

    It’s not that hard, Don’t say that word, DAMN!
    Correction: According to some of the comments, I’m speaking of other race do not say it!!!!!!!!!! If I choose to say it, I will and I could. I don’t agree with Lonne. She’s putting it off on rappers, but if I recall, I’ve seen movies , back in the 70’s using the N word.

    • @kayyancy7012
      @kayyancy7012 4 года назад +2

      Lady Nita THANK YOUUU!! I was just saying this!!

    • @sian1000
      @sian1000 4 года назад +16

      Loni is wrong on this. Black artists will still use it in music, that will never change. However ONLY black artists should use it, sing it, rap it etc. IF YOU AREN’T BLACK DON’T SAY IT.

    • @daniellax334
      @daniellax334 4 года назад +3

      it's truly so simple!

    • @julianramirez7103
      @julianramirez7103 4 года назад +6

      If I wanna say it, i'm gonna say it. Simple as that

    • @sian1000
      @sian1000 4 года назад +6

      Julian Ramirez I never see non blacks like you fight so hard to say a word that literally has nothing to do with you nor has any relevance to you; it’s baffling. It’s also interesting that I never see non blacks strive this hard to say another race’s slur in my life. I’d love to know what is it about this slur that’s been used against black people that makes non blacks so desperately want to say it.

  • @VONiiE8
    @VONiiE8 3 года назад +2

    I don’t understand why ppl can’t understand that it’s inappropriate for nonblack ppl to say the word. Just like it’s inappropriate for kid to curse, it’s inappropriate for non black ppl to say it. The concept isn’t hard.

  • @daviawatson365
    @daviawatson365 4 года назад +2

    Lonnie said she don’t care if it’s an A, E, R, Carry the 1 😂😂😂😂😂