Pride & Prejudice 1995 More Things You Might Have Missed
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- Pride & Prejudice 1995 More Things You Might Have Missed
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I found a few more interesting scenes in the BBC 1995 adaptation of Pride & Prejudice. Drop me a comment if you know of any other interesting moments that might be worth covering.
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This is the very, very best of any “Pride and Prejudice” production. I watch it at least once a year.
It’s a nice “go to” series to immerse yourself in 👍
I do as well. The idea of shelves in the closet always confuses me. Why is it so odd?
I hope you make more of these videos about P&P 1995. I've loved this miniseries since I was 9 years old, and I watch it every year on December 16 to celebrate Jane Austen's birthday!
Another interesting moment that I believe people might have missed occurred in Episode 3, after Elizabeth introduced Wickham to her parents. Mrs. Bennet comments on how charming Wickham is. Sarcastically, Mr. Bennet responds, "It was very good of him to entertain us so eloquently with stories of his misfortune. With such narratives at hand, who would read novels?" Elizabeth, slightly affronted, passionately defends Wickham. The brief look Mr. Bennet gives Lizzy hints at his slight disappointment in her. He always saw her as the smartest, most perceptive, and most clear-sighted of all his daughters. I always felt that Mr. Bennet was the only one who kind of saw through Wickham's facade and was a bit disappointed that Elizabeth wasn't able to do the same. That look he gave her seems to say, "You really don't see that he's playing all of us, do you? I expected better from you, Lizzy." 🧐
I need to make some more - they're obviously popular, not withstanding the much loved subject.
Yes that whole scene with Mr. Bennet reading Wickham like a book and being surprised that Lizzy hasn't seen it straight away. Strange though that later, Mr. Bennet says to Lizzy "Let Wickham be your man!".
Tbf, Mr. Bennet didn't mean to imply that Wickham be her man; Mr. B was saying that W would do a credible job at jilting a girl and that since girls like to be star crossed now and again, why not let W do that? I think Mr. B was trashing on W in a subtle way in that exchange. @TudorSmith
Ah! Now I hadn’t read/seen it that way but the way you describe it, it does make sense.
@@TudorSmith
"Let Wickham be your man. He is a pleasant fellow, and would jilt you creditably."
Mr. Bennet loves making fun of people, particularly his own daughters. I think he's detected Lizzy's blindspot and is roasting her for it. I love this quote because it really packs a punch, if you consider the irony and foreshadowing of it all. Elizabeth eventually does gets “jilted,” in a way, when Wickhman attached himself to the wealthy heiress Mary King. It also subtly gives insight into Wickham's true insidious character -- a slight “mask slip” that momentarily exposes his mercenary nature. I also think it’s very ironic that Mr. Bennet is teasing Elizabeth about being blinded by Wickham’s charms, if you consider the backstory of Mr. & Mrs. Bennet’s marriage. In his youth, Mr. Bennet was initially dazzled by young Mrs. Bennet’s beauty and charm. Only after his marriage did he realize that their marriage was based on shallow attraction and that his “beautiful” & “charming” wife is actually a very stupid & vulgar woman. Basically, his dysfunctional family is a result of a marriage based on unequal minds. Mr. Bennet himself has his own blindspots. I think that’s why, despite his disappointment in Lizzy, he always consistently regarded her as someone with a good head on her shoulders. That look he gave Elizabeth was really an amazing but fleeting moment. Benjamin Whitrow is a true master in nuanced and subtle acting. His microexpressions are a joy to watch.
Totally agree! I like that moment, too. And it shows that he started talking opening about Darcy only after Darcy left the area.
I believe Lizzie did indeed want to meet Georgianna. I think she's still in shock with Mr. Darcy's kinder attitude towards her. And when Miss Bingley made her rude comment about Mr. Wickham, I feel that was Darcy's paternal side jumping out to protect his young sister.
I believe that Elizabeth won massive favor with Mr. Darcy when she rushed (gracefully) to protect Georgiana after Miss Bingley brought up Mr. Wickham for the sole purpose of upsetting Georgiana (and Elizabeth). That Mr. Darcy could see that Elizabeth was genuinely trying to shield Georgiana's feelings, not just trying to win his favor, made him love her even more.
15:04- I didn't read Lizzy's look as a scowl. I saw it more as an anxious attempt to make eye contact and read him, trying to figure it out, (his motives, where she stands with him).
I love the nonverbal communication between Lizzy and Mr. Bennett at the dinner table with Mr. Collins. Benjamin Withrow and Jennifer Ehlie were spot on.
It’s priceless isn’t it?
My two favorite actors in the whole series! I'd watch a whole spin-off detective show of Mr Bennet being the local magistrate, and Lizzy helping him figure out whodunnit. Midsomer Murders, 19th century edition! 😄
No, I don't think Lizzy is reluctant to meet Georgiana. I think she is thinking about what it means that he wants to introduce his sister to her, and also, how he checked with her first to see if it was ok to introduce them....."am I asking too much?" This implies that he is nervous that she'll not want to renew their relationship to the extent of meeting his family. Remember, she was not an invited guest, just touring while he was gone, and she tried to leave Pemberley when she saw him. He persuaded her to stay by talking with the rest of her party and walking with them. So he is still on shaky ground....he really doesn't know her feelings at this point. He's more insecure now, after his fairly long separation from her, and the last communication they had was the letter he gave her, which he does not know her reaction to. He knows he told her things she did not want to hear in that letter, and she could easily dislike him even more because of it. So, her reaction is more "wow, he's REALLY trying to make up for everything that happened.....he's asking my permission to meet his sister! And he obviously really wants us to meet.....why? Is he trying to make up to me again? But that can't be right....but then, he's been so nice to the Gardiners, going out of his way to be pleasant, more than pleasant." There's lots of confusion going on, and she's trying to process it. She's also embarrassed by being caught there, and just does not know how to act.
Well said 👏
The subtle facial and body expressions of the actors is what will forever cement 1995's version as superior to any prior or later versions.
Yes, they are a very high quality cast.
David Bamber is just magnificent, in fact everyone brings the book to life.
My father and I are the "Mr. Hurst Appreciate Club." We find the actor's portrayal so fun; he adopted the wine glass tap when he wanted refills of ice tea or wine. There's so much love about this miniseries!
As a person that's obsessed with these series I thank you with all my heart
Even after both reading the book and watching the 1995 adaptation numerous times, it never occurred to me until now that Charlotte Lucas may have known how to tolerate the foolish ramblings of Mr. Collins because she had spent her lifetime dealing with the foolish ramblings of her father.🤯
That’s interesting. I hadn’t considered Sir William Lucas as having similarities of Mr Collins but now that you mention it…and if the director had caught that too then his direction to Lucy Scott as Charlotte where she gives that glance at her father is spot on!
I think Charlotte fully realized intellectually how dreary her life with Mr. Collins would be and made the common compromise to marry the only man available to her in the scene referenced here. Lucy Scott admirably conveys her panic when she realizes the loneliness of living with such a man. One of my favorite scenes is when Charlotte discreetly explains to Lizzy how she has managed to see as little of him as possible, ensuring herself some serenity. I fully agree with you that living with her father's gracelessness tutored her in dealing with her own gauche husband.
The very best production of Pride and Prejudice.. I think a story that could be shown forever.
I agree. I've seen bits and pieces of the more recent one with Kiera Knightly, I think her name is, and it just looks atrocious. They all look disheveled. And they have bad posture (although not as bad as some even more recent period films I've seen) and sit in a sloppy manner. Someone on set did not understand that proper deportment would have been drilled into the girls starting around age 2 or 3. Someone would have always been nagging them about their posture and the state of their clothes and hair. So by the time they were of marriageable age, they would have had a right big ramrod up their ass.
Yes! I wish there was a director's cut with extra footage of cut or shortened scenes.
Darcy has been wandering out in the grove waiting for Lizzie because he needs to give her the letter (and he knows her well enough to KNOW she's a 'walking through a grove- kind of woman') When he sees her he runs toward her to get jer attention, because he has a letter to give her. However a gentleman would realise the implications of chasing an unacompanied woman through the grove. The last thing he wants is for her to fear him. So as soon as he HAS her attention, he backs off a little to give her space.
And by the way, for most women THIS is what sets a good man apart from a bad one still today. That he doesn't see a woman alone as an ""opportunity"" to force her to pay him attention(in whatever shape that may be), but that he remains polite because he realises how vulnerable she is on her own out there. In short: a good man is willing to see his own behaviour through a woman's lense.
And knows when to back the f*ck off.
Perfectly said!
About the little scene of Darcy walking with Lizzie at Pemberly. I think her facial expression betrays that she sees him in a different light. After all, she later tells Jane that she probably began to love him upon her first glimpse of his glorious estate. I also think that both Lizzie and Mr. Darcy exhibit pride and prejudice in their feelings and actions. They both have to overcome those in order to see the other in the best possible way and fall in love. Thanks for the delightful glimpses and explanations. The 1995 adaptation is my favorite too.
I think she can't quite believe that he is behaving so differently - as if he might quite like her😊
She’s amazed at his suggestion to introduce his sister and puzzled by the meaning of it. The implications are piling in on her but she doesn’t dare believe it.
@@riverAmazonNZ I'd go with that, too. I imagine she's also thinking something like, "The last time we had a conversation of this length, you managed to propose to me and insult me - and my family - all at the same time, and pretty much said you couldn't think of a rational reason to marry me (but proposed anyway). The next day, you gave me a long letter telling me about your history with Wickham - but also gloating about how you persuaded Bingley to leave Netherfield, not realising your actions broke my sister's heart . . . and now we've bumped into each other while I'm on a tour of your house with relatives who you consider to be low-class, you're being more agreeable than I've ever seen you and you're even offering to let me meet your little sister, who I know you're very protective of. I really don't understand what's going on."
I got the impression that Lizzie was joking somewhat when she fell in love with Darcy wben she first saw The Beautiful Grounds of Pemberley.
@@GOODGRAYCATmischievously 😄
I started rewatching after seeing this. Mary is comfort eating, she's not asked to dance and even worse Lydia is mean to her when they get home. "I danced every dance and Mary none"
That's a good observation 👍
the scene w/ the dog I think Mr Darcy is a "love me Love my dog"sort of man and when he sees Lizzie playing with it his heart goes all mushy and that's when he falls
Definitely. Somebody who dislikes my pets is rarely a good match. She happily plays with a large unknown dog, she has a good feel for dogs obviously.
Was that Mr Darcy's dog?
I think Lizzy is still absorbing how polite Darcy is being, how welcoming, and she is aware of the honor he is doing her by wanting to introduce his sister to her. I LOVE how Darcy takes her hands in the inn and then sort of realizes what he is doing and takes his hands away. I think when Darcy and Bingley come back to Longbourn Lizzy is embarrassed and wanting to know how he feels about her now and yet embarrassed about him knowing about Lydia, etc. A situation fraught with emotion.
One thing I recently noticed in rewatching this is during the scene with the “long stares” between Lizzy and Darcy at Pemberley, watch Georgiana. She looks between the two and it’s clear, she knows what’s going on!
Ah yes, Georgianna does look at both of them with a kind of knowing glance.
You have given me a reason to watch the series for umpteen time.
That can’t be a bad thing right? 🤣
Me too, though it's really more an excuse than a reason.
I always thought Charlotte's glance at Mr Collins in the church is her consciousness that their marriage doesn't fit the description in the service.
Very interesting! I really enjoyed your analysis and I agreed! This has always been the best interpretation of P&P in my estimation! I first read it at school when I was 15 and many times since. I am now 93!
I’ve watched the series umpteen times but I’ve only read the book once. Perhaps I’ll listen to it as an audio book at bedtimes although I’ll probably be asleep after a few pages 🤣
I agree with you! I love the 1995 P&P but reading and re-reading the book has always given me the most pleasure. Take care Luv😊
@@TudorSmith I’ve read the book and watched this version several times, and I’ve listened to and fallen asleep to the audiobook several times. It’s quite soothing to listen to, and easy to fall asleep while listening. I prefer the version(s) that are an all-in-one podcast that’s 20+ hours long, rather than 50+ individual podcasts that are each one chapter. Podcast platforms don’t have a long enough sleep timer (I’d like at least 4 hours, so I definitely have time to fall asleep, but the longest I’ve found is 2 hours), so I just let it play, and I wake up to it, as well. Between the physical book and the 1995 dramatization, I don’t mind missing some of the audiobook in sleep; I know the story well.
It's made very clear in the book that Darcy's request to introduce his sister is flattering and pleasing to Lizzy and she considers it to be highly complimentary of her:
"The surprise of such an application was great indeed; it was too great for her to know in what manner she acceded to it. She immediately felt that whatever desire Miss Darcy might have of being acquainted with her must be the work of her brother, and, without looking farther, it was satisfactory; it was gratifying to know that his resentment had not made him think really ill of her.
They now walked on in silence, each of them deep in thought. Elizabeth was not comfortable: that was impossible; but she was flattered and pleased. His wish of introducing his sister to her was a compliment of the highest kind."
Ergo, proof that he still loves her (which is exactly what she had been wondering immediately before his request to introduce his sister to her: "It is impossible that he should still love me").
So she is embarrassed, a bit uncomfortable, confused and deeply flattered/pleased, which I think is well expressed by her expression in the scene, considering she cannot verbally express it.
The look on Lizzie’s face when Darcy and Bingley return to Longbourne before Mr Bingley’s proposal… I always thought she was watching Mr Darcy’s reaction to Mrs Bennet’s chatter. ‘Oh Lord! Here she goes again.’
Mr. Smith, you have the eyes of a film editor in your observations!!! I was always struck by the tactile response of Darcy when he comforts Lizzie crying at the inn, given the etiquette of the day about when a man might touch a woman’s hand. I took it to be another ‘softening’ of his character, treating her as lovingly as he would treat a distressed Georgiana. Notice how he quickly remembers himself, and pulls his hand back? I don’t suppose we’ll ever know if it was a decision of the director’s, the brilliance of the actor, or Colin Firth just being Colin Firth!
I love how when Elizabeth and Mr. and Mrs. Gardiner visit Pemberley and Darcy is very amiable. Elizabeth says something to the effect of I can't understand what has caused this change in his demeanor, and Mrs. Gardiner says knowingly "Can you not?" Mrs. Gardiner knew immediately that Darcy was in love with Elizabeth hence Mr. and Mrs. Gardiner walk behind Darcy and Elizabeth and hang back a bit so those two can stroll the grounds of Pemberley and speak with a little privacy.
Mrs. Gardiner was very astute and I’m sure she read the whole situation early on.
@@TudorSmithThere is also the point that in the Gardiners Lizzie can demonstrate that not all her relations are stupid - there's a huge contrast between Mrs. Gardiner and Mrs. Bennet, Lizzie's mother, especially.
I've always taken Charlotte's look essentially as a bit of resignation, yes she's 'scheming' but at the same time she's aware of the facts he's a ninny. She's willing to encourage him to propose, and accept him even though she knows he's not smart. As she says later he's not vicious, he's respected and can give her what she wants/needs. She's aware of her status as an old maid and what will happen if she's not married.
Yes. An advantageous match for both of them?
Of course he means conquer his feelings for Elizabeth! I never interpreted it any other way. And after that dinner, his subtle smile when he is going to bed, passing through the gallery, is to me a sign that he sees a ray of hope that Elizabeth might still change her mind and her feelings for him.
I think he's trying to Conquer his own failings, his pride and his prejudice
In the scene at Pemberley where Darcy seeks permission to introduce his sister, I always read Lizzie's look to be signalling her surprise and igniting understanding that he is still interested in her because she understands how precious Georgiana is to him. Socially Georgiana is of superior rank to Lizzie so that the request to make the introduction should really be to Georgiana not Lizzie, and in making it, Darcy is acknowledging his change of perception based on social prejudice.
Oh that’s interesting and I think you’d be correct in stating that Darcy would ask his sister first for permission to introduce Lizzy to her. Perhaps that had already happened since Georgiana tells Lizzy that she’s heard so much about her when they are introduced at Lampton?
I agree. I think Lizzy was stunned how nice Darcy was all day long (he offered his pond to Mr Gardner for fishing etc.). Also, being intoduced to someone was a big deal back then. It ment that from now on, you know them (but back then it came with some responsibilities too). It told a lot about someone who they knew and who they didn't know. Darcy thought, that Lizzy is worthy of knowing his sister. That must have suprised Elizabeth, since she thought Darcy is too proud to think that they are equal (which they were..."Mr. Dary is a gentleman and I am a gentleman's daughter, so that we are equal." as Lizzy tells Lady Cathrine.)
Before Mr. Darcy asked to introduce Lizzie to Georgiana, he'd just said that Georgiana wanted to meet Lizzie, so maybe he'd already asked Georgiana's permission first. I think his request to introduce Lizzie, more than saying anything about social standing, told Lizzie that Darcy was thinking much, much better of her because he was so protective of his sister and surely was careful of whom he introduced her to.
A delightful video, with attention to the minutiae that only a true aficionado can offer!
This serial was such a masterpiece it still inspires and lives up to analysis and sheer enjoyment thirty years later.
30 years on eh? It still seems so fresh albeit set in the Regency period. And I’ll bet there are still so many minute details to unpack! 👍
My daughter and I have watched the entire series every Easter weekend since she was 5 in 2004, until she moved across country for work in 2022. Each time we would pick up on different nuances, thus, this video will be a treat!
13:43 I think he's definitely talking about Lizzie; he has poured his longing for her and frustration into physical activity, but even exhausted at the end, he still has nothing on his mind but her!
Totally agree!!
I couldn’t agree more!
I agree that Mr. Bennet is sad at the thought of losing his favorite daughter Lizzy to marriage. But I also felt that somehow he felt the sting when she says Darcy is the best man she has ever known -- compared to Mr. Bennet, who never cared enough for his family to save adequate money for their dowries, who mocked his wife in front of the daughters, and who did not exercise parental control on the youngest boy-crazy daughters.
Oh that’s interesting. It hadn’t occurred to me the Mr. B might make that observation.
I have to agree. Lizzy previously reflected that her parents' marriage was ill-advised and any affection long since dissipated. That she is marrying a man who is her intellectual and moral equal cannot have escaped Mr. Bennet's awareness.
I surmised that Charlotte decided Mr. Collins was her ticket out of Spinsterhood and after seeing how disagreeable everyone was toward him, she wouldn't be thought of as in interloper.
Elizabeth's looks directed at Darcy during the visit where Mr. Bingley proposes were a sizing up. A reading of the temperature perhaps, mingled with a wonder at her new feelings for him.
I agree that Mrs. Gardner was no fan of Mrs. Bennett.
I think Mary was eating at the gathering because that is what a logical person would do when food was around, and Mary was always logical.
I don't think Elizabeth was unwilling to meet Georgiana Darcy. I think she was afraid to be close to Mr. Darcy because she knew her feelings were changing and she didn't want that discovered till she could sort it out herself.
Just some of my observations to add to yours. I enjoyed this new post very much. Thank You!
I like your observations - they add more clarity to my own 🙏
Lizzie wasn’t making a face at Darcie when they were in the sitting room. That was pain on her face about her mother.
Indeed. I realise that now that people have mentioned it 👍
People who analyze films in depth and can rewatch the same ones over and over and always discover new details to ponder and appreciate are my kind of people 😍
We must be in a special club - or maybe we should start one 🤣 I wonder if I could do a video on one of my favourite films: Local Hero ❤️
It is so great having a person who analyses things. Reading the books of Austin many times if there is a film about it I always look for the expressions . In the case of pride and prejudice who is my favor. The adaptation from the book to the 1995 version is wonderful and also the actors who with their expressions bring out how Austin describes them all. At 74 cannot have enough of it I always read the book again first then I watch the film again. Over the years more and more details come to the front specially how society was in that era.
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I love all of Jane Austen's books but "Pride and Prejudice" is my very favorite. The 1995 BBC production of this is the only one that ever satisfied me by staying with the descriptions of people and places shown in the book and with the wonderful dialogue. All of the actors who played the characters were, to me, just perfect.
Darcy is most definitely trying to "conquer" his admiration for, and attraction to Lizzie. He told her that his station in life would make marrying her a reprehensible action especially given her family. I think the look on Lizzie's face when Darcy asks her to meet his sister is one of confusion and some worry about how that would go considering Darcy's feelings about Lizzie's station in life and her family in particular.
I love this production so much that I bought it years ago and rewatch it from time to time. I think I may watch it again very soon.😊
One of my favorite moments that always makes me laugh is when Lizzie is visiting Charlotte in Kent. They’re walking in the garden with Maria and Mr Collin’s comes RUNNING down the lane to tell them that Mr Darcy and Colonel Fitzwilliam have arrived. After telling them to leave now and make haste, Maria takes off running with Mr Collins but Lizzie and Charlotte just leisurely turn to walk after them haha.
This is my favourite adaptation of Pride and Prejudice.
In the scene where Darcy is watching Lizzie with the dog, he is perhaps thinking that he might enjoy her liveliness.
In the Pemberley scene where CB mentions Wickham, I think that Darcy was going to go to his sister perhaps put himself between her and Caroline. But Lizzie got there first and did so in a way that covered his sister's distress. If he isn't in love by that point, he is now. 😊
@@susanscott8653 I have always prized this adaptation. When my daughter was about 17, I shared it with her for the first time. You can imagine the joy I felt when, on several occasions, I found her rewatching it. I rewatched it myself this week and mentioned it to her. She said that she’s introduced it to a few of her uni friends and they all love it. 😊
My favorite P&P adaptation is also the 95 version. The biggest reason is because it followed the book most closely. I love 19th century English literature and all the best adaptations are the ones that stick most closely to the book.
Me too
‘I shall conquer this’ is surely a match to ‘In vain have I struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed.’
You could be right there 👍
That's how I always interpreted it too. :)
Makes you realise afresh what a wonderful series that was, in its direction and in the input of a superb retinue of fine actors to bring Jane Austen's subtle wit to its best expression. Thank you.
Wonderful adaptation by the BBC , excellent video by you !!!!!🇬🇧
Im quite convinced that the 1995 production is the best to have been made 👍
This has nothing to do with your excellent and very enjoyable video, but I had to share a little factoid I just read (in An Immense World by Ed Yong). Apparently male mice produce a pheromone that makes them more attractive to females and that substance is called darcin after Mr. Darcy. Yay for scientists that love Pride and Prejudice!
If you do another of these videos, one scene that I like is the scene where Mr. Collins visits Longborne after Lydia eloped with Wickham. In the parlor with Jane, Lizzy, and Mary, they tell him their father is gone and their mother is ill. He seems to realize that he left alone in the room with these ~tainted~ girls and takes a step backwards. I guffaw every time I see it.
Regarding the brief hand grasp scene.
Watching that scene, it's obvious Darcy wants to do more. He wants to hold her. Comfort her closely and soothe her upset. It's the culture and social propriety of the era literally holding him back. His momentary grasp of her hand...watch the point where he lets go. He does not want to at all, but he has caught himself being (for the era) inappropriate. The release is VERY careful. He doesn't drop her hand like it's a hot potato like a barely cultured idiot. The release is so subtly done and gentle while in a moment of Lizzy's upset, it takes me back to nearly the beginning of the book where Bingley and Darcy are being described and compared. Darcy is clever.
I take this moment as pure Darcy. He feels very strongly for Elizabeth, but he just had a small social "oops" by grabbing her. Instead of making the small faux pas obvious, he quietly and carefully corrects it just as quickly as the brief error was made. And the unspoken agreement (a MILLION of those in the societal understandings of the Regency) is "I'll forget the display of emotional distress, and you forget I grabbed you." And they do.
It's why the 1995 version was my favorite. All the subtleties. And it's why I needed that teacup and saucer (Royal Antoinette by Royal Crown Derby). I got it, but no way can I truly consider getting the whole service!
I agree. You put that nicely.
I was admiring that lovely china pattern, too.
Thank you for identifying it!!
I recently re-read the novel, and it has increased my excitement for re-watching this series. Although I must also confess I just re-watched it a few months ago...
At Pemberley, Lizzie has just been embarrassed when Darcy returns unexpectedly, because she thinks it looks like she has been displaying an inordinate curiosity about him - almost as if she has been caught snooping. That wasn't what she was doing, but she believes it probably looks that way to Darcy. When he generously offers to introduce her to Georgiana, she's still somewhat embarrassed. She doesn't want to appear too eager, lest it confirm what (she believes) Darcy thinks about her. There's also an element of surprised confusion that Darcy is being kind and welcoming her.
I think in the dog scene Darcy sees that Elizabeth is a person who finds joy in life, and he begins to think that he would like some of that. His life is so stuffy and his companions so boring. She's the proverbial breath of fresh air.
I agree. The fact that he has just had a bath gives the impression that he is also in a fresh state of mind.
Exactly none of the other women he has met (or probably had thrown at him) would do that kind of thing. Lizzy is fresh and full of life. Maybe at this point he is surprised but also intrigued
Elizabeth shows her nurturing and playful side which are the traits you'd want for the mother of your children. It also shows she doesn't need fancy things to be happy - she values the simpler pleasures in life.
I thought that Darcy was thinking... None of the ladies I know would take the time to play with his dogs that way. All in a wistful and "make me look at Elizabeth with different 'eyes'" so to speak. So I agree with you, @TudorSmith, here, there was a softening in Darcy's heart.
@@catgladwell5684 She also doesn't know she's being observed, so Darcy knows he is looking at a spontaneous unfiltered side of Lizzy without the layer of social protocols, and she looks like a happy person, full of life and positive energy, not stuck up and not afraid of getting some wrinkles on her dress from playing with a dog.
She also shows him that it's possible to be sensible, mature, even headed and respected without losing one's playful side.
When eventually he starts being really nice with warm manners I think it's also because he had observed her example and how socially adept she was with a perfect balance between being proper and studious as well as fun and likeable without sacrificing one over the other. This scene I think shows his admiration for her also unfiltered.
I always thought Charlotte's pause after she offered to invite Mr. Collins to dine with her family, right after Lizzy had rejected his marriage proposal, indicated that she realized in that moment that a hurt and embarrassed Mr. Collins would very likely try to salve his injured pride and vanity by proposing to the next woman who offered him any kindness. She doesn't like or dislike him at this point, but she knows that he can offer her a comfortable home, and her unromantic nature would require little else in a marriage. She would have no reason to reject him, so she is resigning herself to the choice she is about to make.
I fully agree. She chose her own security right then and there.
Thank you. That makes sense!
Yes!!!!!
She chooses comfort and security, but not happiness and she knows it.
Mr. Collins would jump at the chance to have a lord as a father-in-law.
So glad you made a second video! I find all of your observations spot on. I think I must go rewatch the series yet again for the fun of seeing all these things play out.
Do it - and let me know if you spot anything I’ve missed 🙂
I have read elsewhere that In Jane Austen's time there was concern about how much the upper classes were drinking and she might have written Mr. Hurst as often having too much to drink as a commentary on society. It was also said that Miss Austen was making commentary on how women's only hope of financial security was to marry, even if you don't love that person.
Yes, marriage in those days was sometimes borne out of necessity.
As far as Elizabeth "scowling" at Mr. Darcy, I don't believe she's scowling at Mr. Darcy, but instead it's betraying her embarrassment at what her mother's conversation regarding Lydia's wedding to Wyckham. Almost a mirror scene when at Netherfield, her mother takes exception with Darcy about his opinon on country living.
Excellent observations, fine commentary and fine eye. Really enjoyed it, and now I want to watch that production of P&P yet again--surely the best version.
I'm pretty sure one can not see the 1995 production enough!
Thanks so much! always interesting...
In your second to last comment, when Lizzie seems discomfitted at seeing Darcy, wouldn't that be natural in light of the shared gulit at her family's debt to him? By now she certainly appreciates him fully.
It's so nice knowing others are as taken by all this as I am. Especially painstaking you.
Yes you might be right! Especially since Mrs Bennet still seems so rude to Darcy and maybe Elizabeth is watching him for a reaction - hoping and possibly expecting him not to react!
In the book it says that they were both embarrassed.
I hadn't noticed the look she gave him once he broke eye contact. Part of me wonders if she is wondering why he would come with Bingley unless he intended to continue pursuing her? Maybe what is he feeling does he hate me and my family? Is he upset with me? Is he giving me a second chance? Does he actually like me? I think she is very puzzled because he actually came but he is behaving as cold as he was originally. Who knows, but it is a great bit of acting!
Love this adaptation so much, it's gorgeous, well acted, and so soothing to watch. 🥰 Thank you for these fascinating insights.
You’re welcome - thank you for watching.
Well said - the costumes, fabrics, jewelry, hairstyles, landscapes and gardens, acting - everything…so perfect!
You point out a lot of interesting elements and give us a lot to think about. Thank you.
When Darcy starts to stand, I don’t think he really knows what he’s going to do; he just instinctively wanted to protect Georgiana. However, anything he did would just have drawn attention to something both Darcy and Georgiana wanted kept secret. He was lucky that Lizzy was so quick thinking.
As for the look on Lizzy’s face after Darcy’s request to introduce his sister, I don’t think it indicates reluctance as much confusion. Darcy has been surprisingly civil so far, but introducing Georgiana is an honor that goes far beyond civility.
Well observed. I hadn’t considered the points you’re offering up there but they do make sense now that you mention it 👍
@@TudorSmithyes I think it’s an honour, and she is surprised because he says his sister would like to meet her, which means he has spoken of Lizzy with his sister in a positive way. That she had expected him to have hated her, but he still spoke well if her. Also she was in on the secret about Georgiana, so it was also a trust he used showing her.
Another thing I like about this scene is the little worried look that Georgiana gives to her brother after Wickham is mentioned (she stops playing) and Elizabeth comes over to the piano. Nice acting by Emilia Fox!
@@kkitao217 I think Darcy is more than lucky Lizzie goes to Georgiana's aid, he sees how reflexively protective Lizzie is towards his beloved sister after the ignorant cruelty of Caroline. To my mind, that protective action by Lizzie, and the understanding compassionate gaze between Lizzie and Darcy as she assisted with turning the pages for Georgiana, sealed Darcy's resolve for the second proposal.
You are right there was a secret.
Wickham arranged to elope with 15 yr old Georgiana but Darcy found out and stopped it! That is the main reason Darcy hates Wickham. And he did succeed with Lydia but of course, she was penniless. He would probably have deserted her except for Darcy. Darcy's reasons are multifaceted for rescuing Lydia.
For the scene at 15"00, Austen tells us in the book that Lizzy is upset and confused that Darcy is not talking to her...at all! I think she says something like "why does he come at all, if only to be silent?" She is ready for him to propose, after all he's done for the family....she has to know that he's done it for her, because he certainly didn't do it for Lydia. But she's waiting for him to tell her that....ever since she's heard about him being at the wedding, she's been excitedly waiting for him to come and settle everything between them. And then he comes, and NOTHING!
At 15:16 the way I interpreted Liz was that she was studying Mr. Darcy to see if he still cared about her, she might have stared just because she needed him to make eye contact to get some clarification in that regard. She probably also wanted a chance to thank him for all that he'd done.
The ultimate version of P&P!❣️
My favourite moment with Mr. Hurst is when Mrs. Bennet comes to visit Netherfield. He tries to flee when she comes back from visiting Jane.
The funny point about Mr. Hurst is that one of Bingley's very imperious sisters who talk non-stop about how elevated and refined they expect people to be married an unrefined drunkard and card player herself lol
That is the beauty of Jane Austen, she sees people and commentates on them- her characters are real.
Lizzy, to me, is the glue that holds her family together.
P&P is her story but it’s wonderful how Jane Austen intertwines all of her characters for the overall story.
1995 version is my favorite too! I really agree with most of your observations, never really thought about the look from Charlotte at the wedding but that is great! The look from the walk at Pemberly I always felt was Lizzy still being embarrassed getting caught for trespassing since she had been so mean to him. And now he is being so nice, I think she is struggling to believe that he could be this nice to her after all the awful things she said to him, that she now knows are untrue but she isn't yet ready to tell him so. As far as the Wickham name drop at Pemberly I feel Darcy was going to go make sure Gorgianna was ok and would maybe give Caroline a toungelashing later. However Lizzy stepping up to cover shows him that she is on his side now, and the smile he gives her is my favorite part.
I feel Mrs Gardner puts up with Mrs Bennet because you can't choose your in-laws like you can your spouse.
I have always found it hilarious that Mary is stuffing the last bite of what she is eating so she can clap so funny. I just thought it was to help her be more awkward. And I would love to know what Caroline and Darcy are saying to each other at Merrition ball. I love all your insights and thoughts! Thanks for the video.
My favorite version of this story ❤
I watch Tudor’s P&P videos many times and always look out for any further postings of his. He is the best!
I have always thought Lizzy was trying to evaluate whether Darcy finally saw that Jane's admiration of Bingley was really heart-felt (when Bingley and Darcy finally return), her glance, her frown is her silent shout "Don't you see it!?" Very nice overview, much appreciated, thank you.
I hadn’t seen that myself but now that you’ve highlighted it, it does make sense. Isn’t it good that we can all read things into those micro expressions?
In the book I think she feels super awkward so she may be trying to get that across?
In the final scene, I think Lizzie is watching Darcy to see his reaction to Mrs. Bennet's conversation. She realizes that his earlier criticism of her parents is valid and is embarrassed to realize she now shares his opinion.
Ah yes that makes sense 👍
She wasn’t naive about her parents before he showed up. I’d call her expression chastened rather than embarrassed.. and empathetic to his dignity with them- it’s not his first exposure to them.
Thank youu. This is my favorite Jane Austen adaptations of all time.
Mine too!
One of the best things about this version of P and P is the countryside, gardens and homes. I love the Bennet's home. I love the scenes when they are sitting around the table and Mr. Bennet in his study. It's all quintessential Englishness that I love. I even love the home of Mr. Collins even though the closet has shelves. I could quite easily be very happy in that home or the Bennett home. I also love the china and table settings at the Bennett's breakfast and dinner table. Little things make a big difference.
Yes indeed. Production made every effort with locations and costumes. It takes us right back to regency times.
"I must conquer this" is 100% a reference to him trying to conquer the unrequited love and his despair over it. The dip in the lake is supposed to be a metaphor for the fire within him he's trying to quench. When he rides up to his house on the horse before jumping in the lake that long look he throws at the mansion made me feel like he's thinking "I was hoping to bring a wife and mistress for this house but I come back alone to keep living here".
1. "I shall conquer this": pamiętam, że w polskiej wersji językowej serialu - już w 1995 albo 1996 roku - było to przetłumaczone jako: "Zwalczę to uczucie", więc nie zastanawiałam się nad tym, skoro tłumacz od razu tak to zinterpretował.
2. "The dip in the lake is supposed to be a metaphor...": mam problemy z rozumieniem metafor, więc nigdy tak o tym nie myślałam. Byłam przekonana, że Darcy wskakuje do wody tylko z powodu upału, ale teraz będę patrzeć na to z innego punktu widzenia. To bardzo interesujące, co piszesz, że miał nadzieję na przywiezienie do Pemberley żony, a wraca sam. Dziękuję Ci za zwrócenie na to uwagi.
Pozdrowienia z Polski 😊
@joannakmiecik2528 glad it widened your perspective, thank you😊
Darcy was in love with her.
I think he is trying to quell his feelings for her.
She wanted to meet his sister, but she was starting to fall in love with him. She was uncomfortable because of how things have been between them.
I love the scene with Mr. Hurst when Mrs. B and the girls come to Netherfield to check on Jane. He tries to leave the room before they enter, but he doesn't have enough time. I chuckle every time I see it.
Oh I’ve not noticed that. I’m going to check the scene 👍🤣
It's as they are walking towards Mr bingley,thank him on looking after Jane because she's unwell,and Lizzie is there for moral support , Mr hursts get up from his chair and try's walking towards the same door that the Bennett's have just came from. Focus on Mr H, as soon as the footman announces the ladies.👋💕🇦🇺
Darcy wants to overcome the conflict he is experiencing: his love for her and his belief that the union would be unacceptable.
The strained looks from Elizabeth toward Darcy in the Parlor scene when Bingly and Darcy return, the visit just before Bingly proposes to Jane are due to Mrs. Bennett talking! Elizabeth, knowing how Darcy feels about her mother is uncomfortable and wondering what Darcyn is thinking of her mother at the moment and wishing Mrs Bennett would not say something embarrasing!
To prawdopodobne. Ja myślałam, że jest tak, jak w książce: Elizabeth zastanawia się, po co Darcy przyjechał do Longbourn, skoro jest cichy i milczący, nie rozmawia z nią ani z jej rodziną.
Mr. Smith, I LOVE that you spend so much time interpreting this Fabulous movie!!! Is it possible to get tours that specialize in this particular BBC series. I plan to make a trip to the United Kingdom next year and would LOVE to tour anything PRIDE and PREJUDICE with this cast. Would love to hear back with suggestions! Thank you so much and love your work!!!!😃🇺🇸👍
It would be great if such a tour existed but I don’t know if any. The properties, at least for the 1995 production, are so widely spread across the country that it would probably seem unlikely that a tour group could take it on!
There was a 10 day Jane Austen Festival in Bath, it just ended 3 days ago. The dates are posted for next year as well. People wear regency clothing and attend different events such as balls, tours, etc.
7:38 It dawns on Charlotte that she has to marry Mr. Collins to survive, but the future she will have to endure with this man is a bleak one. She has the look of someone who is forcing herself to take some very bitter medicine.
I have seen this countless times - I’ve gone through 3 sets of DVD:s and two VHS-boxes since 1995, but I never noticed how odd it is to see Mary “shoveling” food into her mouth!
I love watching what’s going on in the background during scenes. It brings the whole thing to life when you consider the background actors have their own back stories quite apart from the protagonists.
@@TudorSmith Wasn't it in the first "The Producers" by Mel Brooks that "Bialystock" makes his rather humorous comment about eating with actors??
I think you're right.
I noticed Mary chewing during the applause, but it hadn't seen her shoving food into her mouth. That did look odd.
I never noticed Mary gobbling down the food in that scene, either. Gives me a whole new appreciation for Lucy Brier’s backstory and character decisions … perhaps an eating disorder from being the “odd duck” of the five daughters?
I’m so glad I found your channel, I have subscribed. That version of Pride and Prejudice is the best. The actors give the characters subtle nuances that go beyond the dialogue and make it so much more interesting to watch. Thank you for this video and the chance to revisit this story
Thank you for watching and subscribing 🙏
Good point about Mr. Collins at the Bennet’s dinner table. 6:50 the variety of looks thrown around is so interesting - Lydia and Kitty with the sighs and eye rolls, Mary so impressed with Mr. Collins, Mrs. Bennet watchful, knowing glances between Elizabeth and Jane, Jane’s elegant look-away from Mr. Collins cheesy grin, Mr.Bennet setting up an oblivious Mr. Collins. Such a well done scene.
I always laugh at the way Mr. Bennett sets up Mr. Collins to make an even bigger fool of himself, and I believe Jane's expressions every time Mr. Collins looks at her are a desperate plea to everyone else, "Help! Save me from him!"
Mr. Darcy’s lines in the scene where he gives Lizzy his letter are directly quoted from the book. The politeness was put in by Jane Austen, not by the screenwriter or the director.
It’s a rather sweet too because he knew/observed all her ‘favourite’ areas to walk and knew she liked walking through the grove.
Him saying that also goes to show Elizabeth the lengths he's taken to get her the letter in the hopes that she will read it rather than disregard it.
@@5apph1b1u3 In the book they had seen each other there several times previously.
Yes! In fact quite a bit of dialogue comes from Jane Austen, and I do appreciate the director and writers as they really flesh out the novel, rather than paying out lip service to it.
In the scene after the Pemberley party, where Lizzy was shown that she had completely fallen for him, Darcy was preparing to visit Lizzy at Lambton. He was nervous and was being meticulous about his attire. He wanted to wear his green jacket instead of the other. I thought that he was already preparing to propose again. Am I the only one getting this vibe? I love that scene. He was shown riding fast to see Lizzy, not wanting to lose time.
I think you could be right. Everything has gone well for him up to this point. Of course Jane Austen throws another curve ball into the story but we can lead to believe that the second proposal was likely in his mind 👍
@TudorSmith Darcy was touchy touchy with Lizzy, without gloves! As though he was already claiming her. (I think I just watched this series too many times! And do please keep pointing out what I missed. It gives me reason to go back. )
I saw an interview with Andrew Davis. the guy who wrote the TV script and he said that Darcy was going to propose. However in the book there is no suggestion of a proposal. I would say it was merely a social call in order to make more progress with Elizabeth, but primarily a plot device because it is crucial that Darcy finds out about the Lydia/Whickham elopement. Otherwise Lizzy and the Gardiners would have left Lambton leaving an excuse about Mr Gardiners business calling him back and Lydia would never have been found before Whickham abandoned her to total ruin. Lizzy might never have seen Darcy again, the Bennets would have been socially untouchable without the marriage that Darcy arranged. Darcy had to be informed of the elopement and this was an ideal way to do so.
@@MichaelRooke-pe6oy I agree. In the movie we see Elizabeth giving Darcy some hope, but in the book they merely visit the ladies, the gentlemen come in, and there is the little scene about Wickham. In the book we are explicitly told that Darcy half-rises from his seat on hearing Wickham's name and waiting for Elizabeth's response. I liked the way they set it up in the TV series; in the book you aren't told why Darcy is visiting Elizabeth (who is conveniently alone reading her letters, another detail in Austen's excellent plotting). It is safe to assume he wanted to continue building the good impression he is trying to create.
I think Lizzie's "scowl" when Darcy and Bingley return is not a scowl, but a look of concern, because she knows how Darcy views her mother, and Mrs. Bennett is being her usual inappropriate self, unaware of all she actually owes the man she's snubbing.
Ah that would make sense wouldn't it?
absolutely right
Mary was instantly infatuated with Mr. Collins. I noticed that she checked her hair as he was getting out of the carriage. Besides the reactions at the table, Mary also looked and moved expectantly as Mr. Collins made his plea for the first two dances from Elizabeth. She seemed disappointed that he did not ask her. (It's a shame - I would have liked to see her dance once.) I even think that her choice of the song that she played and sang at the dinner break was for Collins (sorry for reminding you of that sound).
I am not sure that is in the book, but yes, that is the impression I got from the acting. I think it is hard for an actor to play Mr. Collins well, he usually comes across as too intelligent to be shallow and the stupidest man in England.
They would have been a much better match than Charlotte and Mr Collins.
@@lesliemoiseauthor But more insufferable. They would have magnified each other's faults without having any clue that they were doing so, or even what those faults were. It's much better for the small parish that at least the parson's wife has some discretion and grace.
@@TheAureliac I agree that the people of Hunsford parish are far better off with Charlotte, but it'd serve Lady Catherine right to have to put up with both Mr Collins and Mary... 😄
This is my absolute favorite take on this story. Have watched it many times.
I know it's not Darcy, but Bingleys expressions, especially when saying Good Bye to Jane at Netherfield always make my sister and I laugh, he's so puppy like.
Lizzy is looking at Darcy in that funny way at Longborn toward the end because she is frustrated that he has clearly come to see her, but has retreated again into silence and stand-offishness. This is covered in great detail in the book. He simply can't be his true self around the rest of the Bennett family, especially Mrs Bennett. His shyness takes over and he is paralyzed. But Lizzy doesn't fully understand him yet.
Of course, as soon as he gets her alone, he is ready to try proposing for the final time.
That makes sense to me.
Agree. Lizzie and Charlotte exchange glances which gives Lizzie an incentive to walk past Darcy and deliberately ignore him, a passive aggressive counter snub. But we must keep in mind that a stage direction in the miniseries is often not relayed to us in Austen's book. Nonetheless, I consider it a good addition that is in keeping with the characters and it gives us a visual foreshadowing of the increasing intensity of their reaction to each other.
I have noticed Mrs. Gardiner's reaction to Mrs. Bennett's gossip. I thought woah!! LOL. Also Charlotte's pause I agree is her thinking that she can get Mr. Collins - I've noticed that as well! Yes, Mr. Darcy was trying to conquer his love for Lizzie. Thanks for this video!
In the scene of Bingley and Darcy first visit back to Longborn, after Lizzys feelings have changed for Darcy, I read Lizzys scowl towards Darcy as follows… She is really awkward on his first entering the room and is intently watching him, to see if he will give her any ques as to how he feels toward her, (I believe he is doing the same lol) but as her mother talks on so inappropriately (and quite abusively for the time), Elisabeth (knowing how much her family owes to him) is frowning in reaction to what her mother says but can’t take her eyes off him, watching Mr Darcy for signs of offence… that has always been my take on the performance anyway😊
Yes that's a good observation and it does make sense. Her stern look would be aimed at her mother wouldn't it? And yet she's looking to Darcy - and I'm thinking that she's hoping he's not offended.
Her performance is so beautiful. However you interpret it, you can see Elizabeth die a little inside at her mothers The whole ensemble and crew made magic in this production. Thank you for.your insights, I loved your videos
It is interesting to look around the various scenes to see what the other characters are doing. I spend so much time watching the main characters do their thing that taking time to look at other characters gives new perspectives and insights to the film.
In the scene where Darcy ask Lizzie if he can introduce her to his sister, not only does Lizzie reply that she would be happy to make her acquaintance, she gives a little nod when he thanks her. I had never seen that before.
I do think it brings the back stories more to life.
My interpretation is that Lizzie is feeling slightly awkward in the conversation about meeting Georgiana. I read her look as a combination of feeling a sort of awkward guilt and confusion. By this point she knows that she was wrong to put so much weight on Wickham's account of Darcy and realises that there was another side to the story. On top of that she probably didn't expect to meet him again and after the words they had had and their previous parting was no doubt discombobulated by his warm and charming manner. She rejected him quite forcefully and here he is inexplicably drawing her into his familial circle. I suspect a step that goes beyond the requirements of social courtesy for that time.
I'm a bit late to the party. In episode 6 when Kitty spies Bingley and Darcy approaching for a visit, Jane becomes flustered. Has anyone noticed that Lizzy reaches across the table towards Jane in an act of support? Then Jane immediately takes Lizzy's hands?
After watching this I started watching the making of P&P and noticed something in the very opening scene - Darcy and Bingley riding up to look at Netherfield. Bingley's horse is white, Darcy's is black - a metaphor for their (apparent) characters and personalities right - Bingley light and cheery, Darcy dark and brooding. Clever stuff.
Good eye!!
That’s interesting and perhaps a very subtle clue provided by the director?
@@TudorSmith I noticed that too and I'm sure it's deliberate. In the book Bingley rides a black horse when he visits Mr Bennet: "The ladies were somewhat more fortunate, for they had the advantage of ascertaining, from an upper window, that he wore a blue coat and rode a black horse."
@@TudorSmith It's thanks to your videos that I even noticed it, I think! Also, I loved the great 95 TV series when it came out, and i have been looking for a way to watch it again - Netflix no, Disney+ no... just discovered it is on tvnz+ online (I am in New Zealand), so I know what I am doing for the next couple of days!!
You’re going to be busy 🤣
❤ MOST assuredly, Sir, you have the pulse and the timber of the tell as conveyed in this exceptional rendering of the book.
I don't think it's who is pride, and who is prejudice, and is it flipping--I think it's about how one's pride feeds one's prejudice. Love your videos!
Excellent point !
When Lizzy looks away after accepting D'Arcy's invitation to meet his sister, I don't think Lizzy was just being polite. By this time she has learned that Wickham isn't all he claimed to be from D'Arcy's letter and from one other source. And that perhaps D'Arcy is a better man than she thought. She's warming up to him and I believe she genuinely wants to meet Georgiana. Later, when D'Arcy and Bingley show up at Longborne I don't think Lizzy is glowering at D'Arcy. She knows what he did for Lydia and she's in love with him at this point. The expression on Jennifer Ehle's face is a bit of less than stellar acting. When Caroline mentions Wickham, I think D'Arcy started to go to his sister in case she became upset but saw that Lizzy had the situation in hand since she knew of Georgiana's relationship with Wickham. I love this version of Pride and Prejudice the best.
Good observations 👍
I think in the scene at Longbourne when Bingley and D'arcy first return, Jennifer Ehle is showing the confusion Jane Austen recounts in the book: in this scene she gives Elizabeth's thoughts. She is embarrassed, and trying to read D'Arcy's feelings, and govern her own by them, but D'Arcy is doing the same, thus they are both unsure how to act towards each other. Jennifer Ehle expresses this confusion in her glance.
I always took it as being a bit overwhelmed maybe? Like holy cow I was awful to this guy and he wants me to meet his beloved sister? Her walls are crumbling.
So many super nice details that I had always missed, even after the 100th time! Impressive, thanks for this video!! I love the one with Ms Gardner especially!
I like that scene too. I’d missed it previously but I think (my opinion of course) that it demonstrates Mrs. Gardiners feelings towards Mrs. Bennet.
I think Mary eating while standing at the party showed how she had the same lack of propriety as her younger sisters and her parents. Only the 2 eldest Bennet daughters have that 'natural gentility' Jane Austen liked to give her heroines.
Ah that’s an interesting observation and does make sense doesn’t it? I suppose in writing a script and trying to follow the original book, Andrew Davies had to include things that could have helped the character development.
At least Mary doesn't make the gaffe of eating with her gloves on. But in regards to gloves: it looks like Lizzie and Jane are wearing them, but Mary, Kitty, and Lydia are not. Another sign the only the two eldest Bennet sisters have 'natural gentility?'
I like poor Mary. I also love the alternative P&Ps on RUclips when the various writers give Mary more voice and character. Most make her very kind and intelligent.
I think she was eating because, why not, no one was going to ask her to dance. ?
To steal a quote from Ever After "I'm only here for the food"
Perhaps it would have been more likely that Jane and Elizabeth were daughters of a first wife of Mr.Bennet , the present Mrs Bennet being an unfortunate choice as a second wife after the first's death
This is such a superbly acted and directed version of Pride and Prejudice that I've watched it countless times. All you comment on is very astute, but at the ball where Darcy first sets eyes on Elizabeth and she later just walks past him, my understanding was that the actor was told, having considered her beneath consideration, that he finds he is having a physical reaction to her. I'm putting this as delicately as I can!
Ha ha that is delicate and you may well be right because I’m pretty sure this is the first moment the Darcy has seen Lizzy and even though he told Bingley that she was tolerable, it’s not until she walks right past him that he is probably aware of her beauty and dare I say it, her fine eyes 🤣👀
It is my understanding that Colin Firth was given the direction to (ahem) have a physical reaction after he meets her when she is coming to Netherfield to see Jane. Her eyes have been brightened by the exercise, after all.
The pride was definitely Mr. Darcy’s.
Elizabeth was surprised by his invitation to meet Georgiana, and she had heard that she was an unpleasant person. But I don’t think Elizabeth felt prideful.
That part of the book is the entire hinge of her perception of Mr Darcy. She’s undergoing a revolution of thought and feeling.
I agree. Also Elizabeth was still getting over the shock of seeing Darcy there. I thought she was experiencing a mix a emotions, including some self-consciousness as she had not seen Darcy since he handed her the letter, which proved her acute misjudgment of both him and Wickham.
I've always mused that they both showed pride and prejudice. Elizabeth's pride made Mr. Collins an impossible choice and allowed her to spurn Mr. Darcy because he hurt her feelings. Her prejudice led her to distrust Darcy as an introvert with poor social skills and and as a rich man who would unquestionably cheat a childhood companion beneath his station . Darcy's pride and prejudice are on full display as well.
@@TheAureliac I agree they both showed pride and prejudice, but you don't need pride to reject Mr. Collins; any sensible person with anything less than the patience of a saint would murder him in his sleep before the honeymoon was over! I've dated someone only half as annoying as Mr. Collins, and I only lasted a year, and that was only because of the sunk cost fallacy.
Elizabeth's pride is in her intellectual abilities. Her father says she's the smartest, and she is quicker to grasp things. She is proud of being able to figure people out, of not marrying Collins because he's an idiot, even though her best friend marries him. She's proud enough to not let Lady Catherine insult her. She's proud of her judgement of people being so good, until she finds out that she got Wickham and Darcy all wrong....Austen refers to this near the end of the book.