I did that once, but from scratch, weaving my own mat, took ages, but a good result. I love watching your work, like the occasional humour and useful notes, thank you.
My grandma always had a second job of replacing cane in chairs, after retiring it was her only job. They had people in like a 4 hour radius coming to them, including a few antique places. I remember going to grab more cane for her and putting it in a bucket to soften up, the same bucket HER grandma used for caning. She could do refinishing as well, not to the degree of refurbishing, but def sanding, staining, and laquering old chairs. She did that until like age 80. She still does a few every like 6 months, but not cranking them out like before. She's 85 tho so I can understand why.
Всё, как всегда, безупречно, великолепный мастер! Обожаю винтаж и антиквариат, и с удовольствием смотрю реставрации. С благодарностью за Ваш труд из России❤️
this is amazing. thanks so much. i re-caned four thonet 209 chairs with this method. a bit tricky as the seats are round. took quite some time, but the result is perfect and it saved a lot of money! thanks so much, great video!
@@timadams3717 I'm sure. I guess it's more difficult, but I've never tried. The only thing I know is that it was incredibly expensive to let someone do it the traditional way compared to this method, which I was able to do myself. Have you got any videos/tips?
I am glad to read in the comments that this craft is still going strong. Thank you as usual for your great work. Thus us the first time I have seen how this is done and the way you have recorded the work is an excellent lesson for anyone trying it for the first time. Thanks once again.
Wow!! I had no idea it was such a tedious process!! I have an antique dining set from Belgium and the chairs have this on the seat only. Excellent work as usual!!:)
This job, is why we have and admire artisans like you, Ahti. Not having the skills necessary is one significant thing, but doing that would drive me up the wall, long before I got to the end of it. Is maintaining the weave pattern, by putting the threads in the correct order, necessary for maximum strength? This, aside from making it look correct and attractive. Ooh, one slip with that chisel, and ... 😬 I've always like rattan furniture. Beatiful job as always.
A tip on working with ratan is to add some ammonia to the water. It let the ratan swell more and after dries it will shrink and end with a drum tight finish. Unusual that the seat was not recessed to have a trim piece over the top edge of the ratan. My guess this chair was made by an Apprentice.
@@unamor start at 1/4cup(60ml) per gallon is good starting point, then going up from there too no more then 1/2cup(120ml). One other is that it will also soften the fibers more then water.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 Fantastic! Will the rattan still hold any smell at all after it has dried up? I remember ammonia having a strong odor (memories of the "fauves" cage at the zoo, as a kid). Thank you so much.
Very nice !!! I did 6 of my 12 dinner chair seats veaving myself - it took a long time and my skin got very dry, but the result is amazing, biggest problem a few years back was finding the natural material. ( I friend ended up ❤❤bringing it to Norway from Indonesia ) ❤ I love rattan !!!
Wow. I respect your dedication to the craft of restoration, especially when it is very tedious and time consuming as it appears here. When I do art pieces that require endless details I go Zen and become one with the process...I just drift away and into it all and reality vanishes. Before I realize it the processes of creating my art are complete. ...You're an outstanding fellow and worker craftsman.
You have the patience of a saint. I'd have chopped the chair up for firewood and fled the country before the corners were done! 😂Fascinating to watch though.
finally found a video of this. I tried caneing myself but the cane kept breaking...ugh..so I will try this method. The Arizona climate just kept drying out my strips of cane and breaking...I should have oiled them maybe but I give up, will try this.
I wish I had seen this video (or had the knowledge) 5 years ago. I had four beautiful chairs that went with an expandable table. All were hand-made by my father-in-law, who is now deceased. The seats were leather, but the backs looked just like this wicker seat. I could not figure out how to repair them. I am so angry with myself because I just placed them on the street for someone to pick up. 😭😭😭😭 I have kept the table.👍
Krásná práce jako vždy i v České republice máte své příznivce, celou dobu jsem se modlil, aby jste tím dlátem ten pedik neusekl ,ale dopadlo to dobře jako vždy. děkujeme moc za Vaše rady a inspiraci. Petr
I would be so interested to know where/how you were trained? Did you study with a master? Is this a family tradition? Please can you tell us how you came by such expertise?
Pretty good! But I think what I see at the edges is that the weaving is not corresponding to the holes like a true cane woven seat. That said, this method will still save time.
no no no, had no idea it was so tedious, i would have given up in 5 minutes and thrown the chair across the room. well done for having the patience for something like that.
Just when I thought I’d seen all your videos, I find this one I have missed…. . I live your videos so much, I have watched many of them a few times! I love your channel ❤ I want an AT baseball cap lol
Might have been better to have routed a channel and put in the spline that this sort of caning is supposed to be used with. Or else actually cane it traditionally. This technique does not result in a seat with neat, even edges.
Haha, most people think the same way. If you have restored couple of rattan chairs, it doesn't seem so big job anymore. For me it takes about 4-5 hours of actual work per one detail.
Removing those pins when the piece needs to be recaned will be so annoying! Traditional weaving is easy to remove. This doesn’t seem easier to do in general.
Please do not do this. Soaked too long, and then all that effort only to weave almost every strand into the wrong hole for a weak seat… and a shellac based finish that will dry the cane and make it more brittle. This process hits all the marks for doing it incorrectly.
I usually like your videos and think you do a fantastic job with old furniture and chairs. But that is just not possible...never do you use a mechanical cane to replace the seat on a chair that requires hand caning. First, it won't last. In a few years, the cane will be all loose. And second, the finish is just 🚫❌. There are rules where every strand must go, so that it looks good. There is symmetry to respect. I usually do not comment and I almost never write negative comments. But I do this for a living...restauration of bentwood chairs, with cane seatings. You are so careful and methodical when restaurating the wood. Why cheating with the seat. If you do not know how to cane a seat, you may learn, or you may not do it. But please, please, do not do this. 🥺
I too am a professional caner and this just isn't right!! I've gotten an occasional chair like this to recane because the material was loose. I actually had to drill some of the holes out just to get them clean enough for the real handwoven material.
Exactly the work that I have to do, except that the surface is 2meters long and 60cm wide. It’s a chaise lounges. Yikes, now I’m having second thoughts 😅
Started good with pattern at back of chair but then lost your way in I think third hole from the left at back...still good job but better if pattern was continued
I have been caning for over 50 years and I must regretfully say this method is messy and unprofessional looking. The restoration should not have been done with pre-woven cane. The method of applying the binder and skipping holes around the edge is second rate. I would not recommend this type of repair for chairs will holes drilled. Pre-woven cane works beautifully in chairs that have a channel to accommodate the edges all around but in this case, the use of it makes me cringe.
On my chairs I notice on the underside the caning is connected somehow not just cut. Won’t the bottom just go down with weight on it if it’s just cut off?
@@timadams3717 Dear Tim, he clearly knows how to traditionally cane a chair but is not interested in the method and instead chooses to use pre-woven webbing. Not what you are used to, not the sturdiest, still plenty strong and easier; no big deal. A lot of people -like myself and hundreds others- are still interested in this method he has taken the time to expose here. 👍🏼
How it is recaned in this video is wrong. Prefabricated canemesh should NOT be used in frames where holes are drilled. If a professional restorator is making it in this way he schould be ashamed of his work. There are many videos on youtube where chair caning is told the right way. In both ways. Handcaning in pressed cane.
I did that once, but from scratch, weaving my own mat, took ages, but a good result. I love watching your work, like the occasional humour and useful notes, thank you.
I grew up in south east Asia and rattan is native to us. It requires a lot of skill and patience to do such thing. Awesome job
My grandma always had a second job of replacing cane in chairs, after retiring it was her only job. They had people in like a 4 hour radius coming to them, including a few antique places. I remember going to grab more cane for her and putting it in a bucket to soften up, the same bucket HER grandma used for caning. She could do refinishing as well, not to the degree of refurbishing, but def sanding, staining, and laquering old chairs. She did that until like age 80. She still does a few every like 6 months, but not cranking them out like before. She's 85 tho so I can understand why.
Всё, как всегда, безупречно, великолепный мастер! Обожаю винтаж и антиквариат, и с удовольствием смотрю реставрации. С благодарностью за Ваш труд из России❤️
this is amazing. thanks so much. i re-caned four thonet 209 chairs with this method. a bit tricky as the seats are round. took quite some time, but the result is perfect and it saved a lot of money! thanks so much, great video!
Thanks, I´m happy to help!
@@timadams3717 I'm sure. I guess it's more difficult, but I've never tried. The only thing I know is that it was incredibly expensive to let someone do it the traditional way compared to this method, which I was able to do myself. Have you got any videos/tips?
I am glad to read in the comments that this craft is still going strong. Thank you as usual for your great work. Thus us the first time I have seen how this is done and the way you have recorded the work is an excellent lesson for anyone trying it for the first time. Thanks once again.
Такая кропотливая работа, класс! Браво ,мастер!
I think it would be much better to hand cane this chair. It would look better, be stronger, and wouldn't take much more effort.
WOW 🤩 WOW! The workmanship, attention to detail, and all with the most patience! It’s an art form of its own!!!
I love the look and feel of rattan on furniture. Thanks Ahti for showing how to replace it correctly! The chair looks grand! 🇨🇦👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wow!! I had no idea it was such a tedious process!! I have an antique dining set from Belgium and the chairs have this on the seat only. Excellent work as usual!!:)
This job, is why we have and admire artisans like you, Ahti. Not having the skills necessary is one significant thing, but doing that would drive me up the wall, long before I got to the end of it. Is maintaining the weave pattern, by putting the threads in the correct order, necessary for maximum strength? This, aside from making it look correct and attractive. Ooh, one slip with that chisel, and ... 😬 I've always like rattan furniture. Beatiful job as always.
Here I just show the basic principle how it can be done, now I probably would do better. Correct order is important yes.
A tip on working with ratan is to add some ammonia to the water. It let the ratan swell more and after dries it will shrink and end with a drum tight finish.
Unusual that the seat was not recessed to have a trim piece over the top edge of the ratan. My guess this chair was made by an Apprentice.
Hi Patrick, what is the ammonia/water ratio we are talking about? Thank you very much in advance
@@unamor start at 1/4cup(60ml) per gallon is good starting point, then going up from there too no more then 1/2cup(120ml). One other is that it will also soften the fibers more then water.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 Fantastic! Will the rattan still hold any smell at all after it has dried up? I remember ammonia having a strong odor (memories of the "fauves" cage at the zoo, as a kid). Thank you so much.
@@unamor the odor will not be strong and will disappear after it dries.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 I greatly appreciate and will use your tip. Thank you!
Very nice !!! I did 6 of my 12 dinner chair seats veaving myself - it took a long time and my skin got very dry, but the result is amazing, biggest problem a few years back was finding the natural material. ( I friend ended up ❤❤bringing it to Norway from Indonesia ) ❤ I love rattan !!!
This is my second time watching this video. It really is a spectacular chair. You did a marvellous job with the caning.
The first time I've seen this kind of work. Well worth paying someone else to do it! 😁
Wow. I respect your dedication to the craft of restoration, especially when it is very tedious and time consuming as it appears here. When I do art pieces that require endless details I go Zen and become one with the process...I just drift away and into it all and reality vanishes. Before I realize it the processes of creating my art are complete. ...You're an outstanding fellow and worker craftsman.
Wow, great job! You have a lot of patience!
You have the patience of a saint. I'd have chopped the chair up for firewood and fled the country before the corners were done! 😂Fascinating to watch though.
😂😂😂
Боже,ювелирная работа,такой тяжёлый труд!
Нет слов. Ювелирная работа. Браво мастеру.
finally found a video of this. I tried caneing myself but the cane kept breaking...ugh..so I will try this method. The Arizona climate just kept drying out my strips of cane and breaking...I should have oiled them maybe but I give up, will try this.
I wish I had seen this video (or had the knowledge) 5 years ago. I had four beautiful chairs that went with an expandable table. All were hand-made by my father-in-law, who is now deceased. The seats were leather, but the backs looked just like this wicker seat. I could not figure out how to repair them. I am so angry with myself because I just placed them on the street for someone to pick up. 😭😭😭😭
I have kept the table.👍
Krásná práce jako vždy i v České republice máte své příznivce, celou dobu jsem se modlil, aby jste tím dlátem ten pedik neusekl ,ale dopadlo to dobře jako vždy. děkujeme moc za Vaše rady a inspiraci. Petr
Makes you wonder who thought of this and how the first chair turned out.
Great job once again. God bless.
Thank you! I have an antique cane chair that needs the cane replaced. I may try this!
I would be so interested to know where/how you were trained? Did you study with a master? Is this a family tradition? Please can you tell us how you came by such expertise?
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Veramente sorprendente, grande lavoro di abilità e pazienza, complimenti e ciao
Pretty good! But I think what I see at the edges is that the weaving is not corresponding to the holes like a true cane woven seat. That said, this method will still save time.
no no no, had no idea it was so tedious, i would have given up in 5 minutes and thrown the chair across the room. well done for having the patience for something like that.
While I've replaced caning in a channeled chair, I needed this tutorial to use for a pre-woven one. I don't look forward to the task. But thank you.
Qué maravilloso trabajo!! Enhorabuena!! Me gusta todo lo que hace.
Such tedious work! But lovely piece.
Какой красавец стул! Произведение искусства. Спасибо мастеру за ювелирную работу, вернувшую величественный вид такому шедевру! 👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯🤔🙏😍🙋♀️
Muchas Gracias! Sos muy generoso al mostrar esta técnica con tanto detalle. Estoy muy agradecida!!❤
Just when I thought I’d seen all your videos, I find this one I have missed…. .
I live your videos so much, I have watched many of them a few times!
I love your channel ❤
I want an AT baseball cap lol
Funny that I just thought of making it. :)
My God, what a job! Beautiful result
Oh my God, the patience involved.
Здорово! Очередная победа! Браво,Мастер!!!
ah, the rattan seat, the bane of splintered butts of the 20th century.
This is labor of love. You gotta have patience to do this.👏❤❤❤
You have such a lot of patience,, well done...😊
Very labor intensive, cost is probably up there. Great looking project, thanks.
Much easier to weave the whole seat by hand !!!
Wow great work. Patience
Might have been better to have routed a channel and put in the spline that this sort of caning is supposed to be used with. Or else actually cane it traditionally. This technique does not result in a seat with neat, even edges.
Edges yes, otherwise works very well.
I agree with your appreciation regarding the edges. Not my favorite finish, visually. I appreciate the patience and craftsmanship otherwise.
Absolutely agree with your assessment. This chair should have a woven seat - not pre-woven at all. the finished product looks very un-professional.
now you are a star !!!! I like very much your interview
Is strong enough to be sited on? I assume it is but just little sticks to hold seem weak LOL Thanks, always learning from you. Great!
Yes, it has been used in church for years now, I assume it still in one piece.
Good tees work great for holding cane in the holes
That was a lot of detailed work for sure but worth the effort. Beautiful. Have a great day
My Wife: Rattan seats of the dining chairs need replacing dear!
Me: Eff that!!! I'm replacing them all with cushioned seats instead.
Haha, most people think the same way. If you have restored couple of rattan chairs, it doesn't seem so big job anymore. For me it takes about 4-5 hours of actual work per one detail.
Haha I would have the same response if someone gave me rattan chairs, Erdal! 😆
A lot of work…. But so beautiful!
Removing those pins when the piece needs to be recaned will be so annoying! Traditional weaving is easy to remove. This doesn’t seem easier to do in general.
Please do not do this. Soaked too long, and then all that effort only to weave almost every strand into the wrong hole for a weak seat… and a shellac based finish that will dry the cane and make it more brittle. This process hits all the marks for doing it incorrectly.
I usually like your videos and think you do a fantastic job with old furniture and chairs.
But that is just not possible...never do you use a mechanical cane to replace the seat on a chair that requires hand caning.
First, it won't last. In a few years, the cane will be all loose. And second, the finish is just 🚫❌. There are rules where every strand must go, so that it looks good. There is symmetry to respect.
I usually do not comment and I almost never write negative comments.
But I do this for a living...restauration of bentwood chairs, with cane seatings.
You are so careful and methodical when restaurating the wood. Why cheating with the seat. If you do not know how to cane a seat, you may learn, or you may not do it. But please, please, do not do this. 🥺
Another professional chair caner here. I concur with your assessment; well said.
I too am a professional caner and this just isn't right!! I've gotten an occasional chair like this to recane because the material was loose. I actually had to drill some of the holes out just to get them clean enough for the real handwoven material.
Exactly the work that I have to do, except that the surface is 2meters long and 60cm wide. It’s a chaise lounges. Yikes, now I’m having second thoughts 😅
Started good with pattern at back of chair but then lost your way in I think third hole from the left at back...still good job but better if pattern was continued
Were can I buy these sticks? Is that what the spline is?
What is the distance between the wholes
Ювелирная и кропотливая работа.настоящий реставратор
El tejido no se repara,se vuelve a tejer, por lo demas bien
Enjoyed watching you, but I don’t have the patience to repair my chair seat myself.
you are a patient guy!
It's fantastic!!!
Hi, great job! But can I ask you why you didn’t cane directly instead to take ready to cane? It should be faster.
Wonderful! Amazing! Great job! 🇪🇨
I have been caning for over 50 years and I must regretfully say this method is messy and unprofessional looking. The restoration should not have been done with pre-woven cane. The method of applying the binder and skipping holes around the edge is second rate. I would not recommend this type of repair for chairs will holes drilled. Pre-woven cane works beautifully in chairs that have a channel to accommodate the edges all around but in this case, the use of it makes me cringe.
There be patient.
Oh My God.
But a amazing work
Congratulations.
What is the history, origin and age of this chair?
How do you finish the under side
Very tedious job 👍
Lindo trabalho parabéns ☺
Awesome job!
Nice job!!! Just a question: doesn't natural cane became grey after 2 hours under water? Thanks!!!
It depends on the material, usually it doesnt became grey. People have different opinions how long to keep it under water.
Hi! How do I select the splint size? Thank you so much
I’m doing a round chair this way, not sure how to do binding.
Excelente trabajo !!!!!
Nice job!
Good work friend!
On my chairs I notice on the underside the caning is connected somehow not just cut. Won’t the bottom just go down with weight on it if it’s just cut off?
Your chair is just done with different techinque, where each cane is woven by hand. No it wont go down.
@@timadams3717 Dear Tim, he clearly knows how to traditionally cane a chair but is not interested in the method and instead chooses to use pre-woven webbing. Not what you are used to, not the sturdiest, still plenty strong and easier; no big deal. A lot of people -like myself and hundreds others- are still interested in this method he has taken the time to expose here. 👍🏼
Big-ass golf tees!
How much time does it take to do a seat using this method?
4-6 hours.
Top work!! Brasil!
wow, beautiful, spasibo
Bravo respekt ✌❤
Not very neat to be honest but why not.
ΜΠΡΑΒΟ!!!!
restoration that i could do only in jail.excellent but so big efort
How it is recaned in this video is wrong. Prefabricated canemesh should NOT be used in frames where holes are drilled. If a professional restorator is making it in this way he schould be ashamed of his work. There are many videos on youtube where chair caning is told the right way. In both ways. Handcaning in pressed cane.
Wow
Esas planchas de los chinos no valen par nada. Lo bueno es tejerlo con el junco e ir pegando cada vuelta en sus agujeros.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Wrong material for this type of chair caning.
Apologies. I had to stop watching it was stressing me, way too intricate for my brain.
That is what chronic depression has brought me to.
After the night, there is always the day.
was für eine Fitzel- Arbeit!! Perfekt ausgeführt!🪑🔨🪛{ in ihren Händen wird was tolles draus!!
oh no... such work is not for me...