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"This was a romance movie and then someone remembered it was supposed to be a 'Halloween' movie and said, 'Oh, I've got to write that in!'" is the best summary I have heard of this movie.
@@memecity9849the scene where Laurie offers Michael some Activia and he shits all over her face was epic. He shat all over that camera, like yummm oooh baby, yassss, yasssss Queen. Yassssss, shat all over that face like yasssss
Besides rewrites, i believe this was a creative way to end the franchise. Especially after 20+ years of Michael Myers, it would have been hard NOT to make a stereotypical walk around and slash film that we have seen recreated. This film put some things down for the next Halloween creators to either pick up or scrap. This film was about the fear of Michael Myers, what it has caused, and what really happens when you look into those eyes. People affected by Michael didn’t wanna leave town they wanted revenge. Becoming less and less of themselves and more vengeful/empty. Leaving room for Corey to exist.
I think if the pandemic never shut down movie productions and caused all these delays then Halloween Ends would have been a different film then what we got. I agree with Mike that it's a good stand-alone movie but as the 3rd film in a Halloween trilogy it failed.
I still would love to see the original pitch where Kills and Ends take place the same night as H18 and were supposed to be shot back-to-back. With Ends finishing with the battle between Laurie and Michael and the November 1st sunrise showing up. THAT would have great imo!
@@pablog5965Halloween 2018 0000-1800. Halloween kills 1800-2100. Halloween Ends 2100-0000 Those would've been the times I would've placed them on the same day.
My brain honestly can’t even begin to comprehend mikes love for this movie but goddammit I respect (ps I was actually on board for Cory getting infected with evil and agree that tag team scene was BADASS)
If Corey and Cameron were the same guy, and he survived the events of Kills... EVERYTHING WOULD MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE. If Cameron and Allyson survive a face off with Michael, their relationship is already established and we don't need the honeymoon/love blossoms story that Ends tells. Both of them losing a mother and father - both halves of the parental unit - inside of the Myers House is perfect for explaining why they're broken after. Also, 2018 and Kills constantly push that the Elams are looked down on by the town. It would make the outcast treatment of Corey much more fitting if it was Cameron instead.
And switching the basic idea of Kills and Ends…imagine Michael being injured because of the fire, Laurie calming down because she thinks she got him (rather than her calming down while he’s loose lol) Cameron being in the Corey role, and by the third movie we have a big slasher movie like Kills where Michael and “Corey” are going on their own separate killing sprees (instead of following that Tivoli shit) with Allyson trying to stop Corey and Laurie trying to stop Michael - old generation and new generation, evil ACTUALLY changing shape, etc. and then Allyson gets her time as the new final girl after everything she went through The second movie being a true quiet character study that dissects Michael’s evil and the third being a huge bloody climax
If Halloween Ends was a standalone movie, even a Halloween movie, it would be good. As the final chapter in a trilogy, it was a huge departure from its own trilogy. It didn't fit in my opinion.
I think most of us expected some type of silliness to be interjected after Kills. I think Kills has aged the worst...even though Kills does by far have the best iteration of the Myers character in the whole trilogy. It's too bad the Kills Myers wasn't in the 2018 film.
That's a pretty good way of describing of Halloween Ends is I felt depressed after watching it. Disappointed yes but also just depressed as well which made me not even talk about the film until months later.
Cameron should have been the one to eventually turn into a killer. His character was there from the start and they could have built a thread for his character from 2018 to Ends.
100 percent agree. I feel like they never really had a true vision for a trilogy. Rumor was they really never intended to do a trilogy when they wrote the first script. You can tell from the two sequels that gives vibes they were just making this shit up as they went along.
I respect both of your opinions but I stand with Jay. Speaking of which, I wish Jay was in more videos. He makes me laugh every time and it never fails!
I’m with you. It was a disgrace. Surprisingly most of the comments are saying they liked it or saying something good about it. I don’t get how any Michael Myers/Halloween fan can appreciate Ends. I’ll never get over it lol
At least Ends had a cast that could actually act unlike over half of the so called actors in 2018 and Kills. That alone would be enough for me to choose Ends but it also has the best character (Corey) and I would even say the best score.
@@ludocrious7898 It does seem like a minority lol but I have talked to many people that live the film and even apart of some horror groups that all love it. I do think though that it is a perfect ending to the Blumhouse story, it is different yes but I dont just enjoy it for being different, I love it for the story it told and the different perspectives that the film gives us on these characters and this world we love so much, I look at Ends as an extended epilogue to the trilogy Kills wrapped up and appreciate the behind the curtains look at Haddonfield and its residents in the wake of Michael Myers, not the night of his rampage or another seasonal slaughter film, it gets in there and shows some bonus sh!t lol.
Pretend these movies were made in the 80's. 2018: Obligatory re-hash sequel. 'Kills': Obligatory 80's slasher. 'Ends': Obligatory break in formula + John Carpenter homage (because he originally broke the formula).
Halloween Kills was the best Halloween movie ever IMO. At least it gave us what we want which is Michael killing and killing brutally. This movie did none of that...
I can’t give them credit for creating a “standalone movie” because that wasn’t the assignment. They failed the test by giving the wrong answers. This was not the movie to end the Halloween trilogy.
Love seeing the boys in the same room! I'd rate it a 3 personally. I'm with J on this one. If they had introduced Corey earlier in the series I'd have given it a 7
For me I just view Halloween 1978 and 2018 as a sequel. Everything else is it’s own imagining this included. If this, and the rob zombie movies were called ANYTHING else with different characters they would be solid horror movies but here we are
So I actually worked on this movie (sweeping floors, loading and unloading trucks.... grunt shit). I supposedly have a credit on this movie.... still haven't seen it haha. Love your fucking faces
@@Myersmad316it’s more disappointing but maybe not worse. I don’t think anyone expected resurrection to be good and it wasn’t and it’s worse than ends but we expected better from zombies H2 so it’s in contention for most disappointing but in all honesty it’s 50/50 between those 2 movies for me.
I enjoyed these three Halloween movies, but the backlash they received got me thinking about what I would have done differently with them (which is always fun to think about). Personally, I would have had 2018 be the way it is (maybe with some minor tweaks😅), and have it end the exact way it did; Laurie, Karen, and Allison get away, and we see the basement burning with no Michael in it. The Myers house would be demolished, like it was in Ends, leaving Michael with nowhere to go back to and in search of a new “home.” The next movie, which would be my final movie if I had it my way, would be a continuation of 2018 with Allison in her senior year at college in a different state (maybe somewhere semi-close to Illinois, or in California if you want to pay homage to H20). With Halloween approaching, Allison begins to see Michael during the day, just as Laurie did leading up to Halloween night in 1978. Of course, Allison assumes she’s hallucinating from some resurfaced trauma from 2018, as Michael is there and gone like in the original movie. Allison has a strange feeling that these “hallucinations” are real, as people around campus are starting to go missing day by day. Allison begins fearing the worst and realizes that this time, she must face Michael alone; with no Karen or Laurie to help her, she begins to lose control. Those around her are concerned for her wellbeing, but she is not having any of it. Her friends decide to distance themselves from her, and her boyfriend, unable to deal with the situation, breaks up with Allison. This leaves Allison isolated, paranoid, and afraid, just like her grandmother. The ending would conclude with many people being victims of Michael until Allison is forced to confront him one-on-one in a similar chase scene to H20 (Allison is being chased around campus, and eventually uses her “home field advantage” to get the upper hand). I would end the movie with a definitive conclusion with Allison coming out the victor, but I would not be mad at all with an open ended conclusion if someone were to do that instead. Obviously there is a lot more that would tie into the movie, but this is what I just thought of when Ends came out and all of the backlash happened. You could include Laurie and/or Karen in the movie, but if I did it might be something as simple as Allison on a phone call with her mom and another call with her grandmother on vacation with her husband, Frank Hawkins, in Japan under cherry blossom trees. I think Allison going through a similar situation as Laurie with everyone leaving her isolated and viewing her as a basket case would be interesting because Allison would now understand why Laurie was the way she was, and everyone thinking she is crazy would make sense because they are outside of Haddonfield where Michael is not a well-known figure. I don’t know, just my thoughts😅, as I am sure there are plenty of flaws in it like people wanting to know how Michael escaped the basement and made it to another state; however, I feel like what has always made Michael so scary was that things are not always explained with him, and that is what makes him more terrifying. There would also be a lot more stalking and shots in the movie of him in the background observing things, as this is how he was in the original movie (he stuck to the shadows and let the suspense build instead of charging in like a mindless monster, which I also find more terrifying). Also, I miss seeing Michael out in the daytime, as there was a whole other level of horror involved in him being out in broad daylight; this opens the door for him to be more of a presence throughout the movie, not just at nighttime.
Hey at least you gave it some thought and not just saying why didn't we meet Corey earlier? (Like that matters) I don't think Micheal has stalked anyone for the purpose of killing except Annie (yup I said it), he rolls up on Judith like he does everyone else and wasn't running across to street to take out Laurie until she discovered his "art" over at Lindsey's house. Could he have become equally as fixated on Allyson? Absolutely. In 2018, they were in the backseat together, she stabs him and in Kills he is toying with her in his house. I enjoyed all 3 movies as well. Had he followed Allyson to college the hate would have been oh they did Scream 2. People don't want original and they don't want the same, they just want to complain.
@@nolipgloss1343 I get it. Part of my explanation for why Michael would seemingly stalk Allison at college stems exactly from your points. She was in the backseat of the police car when Dr. Sartain got attacked, and Michael basically let her live by attacking Sartain (showing how much he hated that man😅), she helped her mom and grandmother trap him in the basement, then she went into his home, tried to shoot him, stabbed him, and then taunted him. I think Michael did feel hatred towards Allison in Kills because there is a moment, at the top of the stairs in the Myers house, when he stops to look at Allison, and I felt like that was a look of, “YOU! I remember you!” If Michael is truly human (which they also never truly decided; one minute he was “just an old man in a mask,” and the next he’s wiping out half the town) then he should have human emotions such as hatred. I wish there would have been a moment in Ends where Michael saw Laurie’s picture of herself and her friends from back around 1978; perhaps that could have been the moment where Michael realizes who Laurie is, but they also never truly decided whether or not Michael was after Laurie. 2018 made it seem like his sole purpose was to find Laurie and kill her, Kills made his purpose to simply go back to his house, and Ends was mostly other characters. They danced around the idea too much without pulling the trigger on it, which I think wasted time and potential. I agree that it would have made the trilogy better if there were more characters who were present throughout all of the movies. Corey easily could’ve been a side character that everyone in the school saw as the shy, weird kid; you could have had a simple exchange between Corey and Cameron that shows Cameron’s underlying d-bag tendencies by bullying Corey, and have Allison stick up for him like hey knock it off. That would also set up more backstory as to why Corey was so obsessed with Allison; she was the only person who was nice to him back then, and here she is 4 years later and he has the chance to be with her, just like he wanted, and he wasn’t going to let anything stand in his way of being with her.
@@KyleKaiser7 It's highly likely that Allison's actions, especially that crucial moments in the Myers house did make an impression however, with Carpenter's script approval and control over Micheal as a character, he is pure evil and that's all we are going to get. I'm ok with that because I'm not a big 4-6 fan when Michael was not the Shape but basically the main character. It's unfortunate that Allyson's character development wasn't built around what was already set up as it does appear to be more complexity to the dynamic between Allyson and Michael than presented in Ends. The concept of a Cameron-Corey-Allison dynamic is intriguing, although Corey's age (20 in 2018) might have posed a challenge for inclusion in their peer group. Allyson's attraction to the darkness within Corey could have added significant depth, but it seems these aspects were left either unexplored or the visual clues didn't land in Ends. While the trilogy certainly had its moments, it's captivating to consider the uncharted territories they might have ventured into. Ends was a success because we are still talking about it and more than 2018 and Kills.
@@nolipgloss1343 that’s all very true. I wonder how different Ends would have been had the pandemic not happened? I know they went back and changed things before the official release, but I wonder how much of the movie they actually changed. A lot of people hate that it wasn’t all in one night, but stretching the story out over 4 years wasn’t a bad thing in my opinion.
@@KyleKaiser7 They had to switch from NC to GA for Ends so with no access to the town, nor the recreated Lampkin Lane set changes had to be made even if it was just to reframe the intended story. I'm ok with the time jump as well.
My god , the annexation of Puerto Rico is something I still use till this day , exactly why I love you guys! Appreciate the effort and insight you both always put in very informative , fun and insightful. I’m looking for Ray Finkel and a clean pair of shorts.
Writing 101. NEVER introduce a new antagonist into the 3rd act of a 3 act play. It's confusing and disingenuous. Ends didn't deliver in what had already been established in the previous 2. J is right. DGG tried to think outside the box and give us something different. The problem is, we wanted what was already in the box. An epic finale where its all about Michael and Laurie. Corey was nothing but a rehash Cunningham character from Christine. Hawkins character went nowhere. Sheriff Barker, missed opportunity. Lindsay was forgotten about, just like Laurie's description of Michael at the end of Kills. And Alyson. WTF!?!?! The one character I disliked more than Corey, and I loved her in 2018 and Kills. Ends is a prime example on how to completely fuck a trilogy. Piss poor. 2/10. And that's generous.
I'm with J on this one. I actually enjoyed Ends more the second time I've watched it but I still think it's the weakest out of this trilogy because it doesn't even feel like a logical continuation from where Kills left off. If they wanted to explore Lauries trauma in 2018, the towns trauma in Kills and how it all affected future generations in Ends, they really should have focused on Allyson as the main character instead of having her as a love interest in a forced as f*ck relationship. It could have been such an interesting trilogy about how random acts of violence affect people for generations. But instead they did... this. I get some of it and enjoy some of the scenes. Think the acting is good, the music is fantastic. But it is just so poorly executed. I still enjoy this one more than some other Halloween movies but it's still such a dissapointment since I loved 2018 and Kills so much more.
I never understood why Laurie spent 40 yrs tryin to kill Michael for killing her friends, but all of a sudden stops after he kills her daughter?! Like really?! She should of been hunting him even more and doing whatever she could to find and kill him once and for all. The character progression didn't make sense, like Laurie and Hawkins, when they say each other it was like they haven't seen each other in years in that small a town. They acted like everything happened a month ago or something.
I like this film. I have a slew of problems with it, but I enjoy talking to other people about it. But often new points get brought up that give me even more problems. Indecision is huge in a franchise like this. I don’t think that 2018’s ending was incredibly satisfying, but that’s probably the best we’ve gotten because there is no clear way to kill off an unkillable character. And calling the movie “Halloween Ends” was a mistake. They had a start point but no real end in mind so they had to do weird things to get there.
If they not did the Corey Cunningham thing it would’ve been good. All 3 of the Blum House films paid homage to all the films before it but yeah they could’ve implemented the Michael killing vicariously through another person a lot better though we could’ve did without it altogether
@WeWatchedAMovie Mike I really want one of those shirts ☹️ Also thanks for liking my pic of you guys in my Father’s Day frame I showed today 🤟🏼 That totally made my day and you’re right it is beautiful 💪🏼
Halloween kills shouldn’t have been experimental. I never thought a Halloween movie could make me hate it more than resurrection and the rob zombie halloweens. Congrats David Gordon green….You did it!!
I always thought the entire trilogy should of started with Corey being a copy cat style serial killer with Myers slowly making a return. Halloween 2018 would be the second film and the 3rd film would be the events of Halloween Kills.
This movie was just such a total let down. As being a die-hard Halloween Michael Myers fan, I felt like it was a slap in the face and a kick in the balls. I was thinking the whole time like what the fuck is going on? How is Michael Myers a guest star in his own movie? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️💯💯 You're right though A standalone movie this definitely works. Just waiting for the reboot now 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪
I gave Halloween Ends a rewatch recently and I think it was slightly better than the first time I’d seen it. There’s a good Halloween movie buried underneath all the ideas but at the end of the day… it’s just not Halloween. Btw, that Little Giants reference…. 😂😂😂
I heard people say they love Halloween Ends cos of how little it has Myers, and no lies these same people say they love Halloween 3 season of the witch cos it has No myers.. like imo they don't want Myers anymore they imo watch a different horror movie. Cos it sounds like they gone off Michael.. I mean how can u have Halloween with Myers -_- That's like friday the 13th without Jason, or a nightmare without freddy LMAO
I had never watched it until today , I actually loved the movie . I give it a solid 8. I believe after the bridge accident with Corey he somehow became a imprint , like a assistant of Michael like a extension and that’s 🔥🔥🔥🔥 .watching him was like watching Michael without a mask and with that, I feel like ends should have made it known that Michael could do what ever power like sigh he did in the film earlier on. But overall it was a 8 for me
As a huge fan of the franchise in all, not just MM, or one or two of the movies, I'm against the loud voices of the minority i love this movie, loved the ending too, watching Michael getting turned into smush and Laurie getting her happy ending, they needed a definitive ending for their storyline, so this was definitive and there is no coming back to the strode storyline, which the "majority" of the fan base wanted, then they moan that MM was disrespected, not sure how you should respect a killing machine lol . I didn't mind the risks they took, the only bit I didn't like was when Corey took the mask of MM the way he did. We need to get away from the "MM wasn't on screen enough" BS excuse as well, there is to many sheep in this fanbase, one person says the "hate" it and then everyone joins in claiming the same, despite either never seeing the movie, or watching it once, and never going back to it again. Rant over, i respect people not liking this movie if they can actually give constructive reasons as to why (Like Mike and Jay with their awesome opinions) but i just think the negativity that comes out these days through social media unfairly influences people before they even see the movie, and believe they will hate it, watch it and have to say it was shit as they follow the social media influencers, no one has their own opinions these days which is sad. I'm soon to be forty and i remember word of mouth hype and how amazing it made going to the cinema, nowadays its all negative shite that comes out of peoples mouths destroying the actual movie experience. My original score was 7.5 and it remains at that for me. Ends wasn't the issue, Kills is where the story derailed as they made MM supernatural at the end of Kills, meaning Ends was always going to be a bit strange storywise in the fans eyes.
You cut out the beginning when jay is pondering bringing women to the wwAM family and mike showing off his belly😅! Bring it back!!! Seriously Jay has a good idea. Collaborate with other youtubers more often. Being a woman is optional but a good idea💪🔥🖖
@@WeWatchedAMovie We basically saw a business meeting and it was pretty professional. Nothing wrong at all. Maybe showing off your belly would get you in trouble with HR though🤣
I’ll agree with anyone that the ending and Michael’s screen time was stupid, but I still love this movie. I honestly feel like it’s the one time DGG’s message about society was done well. The Boy Harsher song Burn It Down - Rework is a stupidly good song too for the soundtrack
I honestly felt like Halloween ends was a breath of fresh air. I respect the fact that they went for something new. Yea the part when Micheal gets his mask taken was crossing the line. I also wasn't happy with the woodchipper ending but overall, I have respect for the movie.
Most people forget that the original storyline for ends would take place the same night as kills but covid delayed them from filming both movies back-to-back. This was still a fun plot to make up for what was originally planned
@@MR.__G Could be a number of things, plenty to be excused from making the original script but I don't know for sure. I'm guessing it mainly has to do with everyone's schedule on the crew. Actors and filmmakers are busy with other projects, and they only probably had a limited time in certain locations or lost access to those locations, props, and other stuff
@@kev_jr but you only needed 2 characters to come back, Laurie & Allyson.. Myers has the ability to be played my multiple actors if need be. I just don’t see how Covid could make them write a different story.. if anything that’s just an excuse for the backlash they got from the terrible film
With that being said, I feel like ENDS is a Stephen king adaptation of what a Halloween movie is. Echoing the other comments, Christine is written all over this.
Thanks for sharing another entertaining video guys!!! 🎃🎃🎃 Jamie Lee Curtis even said in press that this was going to piss people off. Indeed 😉 Also, the script changed because of the pandemic. What we got, we should still be appreciative of a new Halloween movie 🍿🎥 that's all...
For me even halloween resurrection has a spot in my heart but Ends left me so disappointed, and st the very least they couldve introduced corey in one of the other 2 movies. Maybe not even a big part but just have him present, maybe even have the accident with the kid happen sometime during kills
The funny thing about the sewer fight scene is the story JJC told; apparently what we DIDN’T see was Corey lifting Michael up over his head before throwing him down 🤦🏼♂️😂 Mike was right in the first review when he said it gave us shit to talk about. We’ve been theorizing and coming up with what if scenarios for a year and it’s been a shit ton of fun. So for that; I’ve grown to appreciate it.
I think they messed up with making the first two movies the same night, just like the original… they should have had Kills begin with Michael escaping the fire and then flashforward. The timeframe of the one-night is messed up in both the original Halloween II and Kills because of this stretch. If they had just based Kills in a different year, and maybe then introduce Corey, etc. it would have made more sense. Also, why is Michael unstoppable? Is it “Samhain”, which is some reason a part of the title of Laurie’s memoir, but not mentioned in this trilogy, and retconned beforehand? Also, if he’s unstoppable, how was he apprehended and committed for 40 years? What stopped him from killing all of his fellow inmates and hospital staff? It’s that goddamned silver shamrock mask, I tell you. He didn’t have it, podcasters gave it to him, he decides to escape. It gets burned up and he loses his power. It’s the mask. The mask is his power. 😝
They should’ve called “Ends” The Cory Cunningham Project (Ft. Laurie & Michael) I agree with you both that Halloween 2018 is a real tasty treat. Easily my favourite since the OG gangsta shit. Kills was a bloody good time, some whacky characters and “Evil Dies Tonight!” aside, I really dug it! Ends was a mess. Jay is spot on that Cunningham should’ve been introduced in Kills. Just really jarring how his story took up 70% of the film. Shame cos the actual Michael and Laurie stuff was great. Just wasn’t enough of it. Halloween 2018 - 8.5 Kills - 7.5 Ends - 6
Watching your videos leading up to Halloween ends is what made me subscribe. You guys were stoked, I was stoked and then the movie came. And it was a pretty big disappointment
I would have settled with Corey finding Myers dead body and takes the mask from him, but MM wakes up and goes after Corey. I’d have taken that over Corey beating Mickey up and taking it from him. Especially when Michael doesn’t really end up killing him and taking it back.
As a stand alone movie this would still be insanely bad. Nothing made sense, Michael was a bitch, Cory was annoying. I was in shock how bad it was. Like the movie ended and I just sat there
Why mm is my favorite horror villain is because I find him the most compellingly scary, at least conceptual. The shape is haunting because it has no motive; it is evil unfiltered and pure. It's that lack of motive that makes him almost supernatural, as if something not of this world broke into our reality on Halloween and chose an innocent child as a vessel. Simply the blackest eyes. For me, that's who Michael myers really is, and that's when his lore is at its' peak imo. He's not a mentally challenged momma's boy like Jason. He's not a perv after his own desires like Freddy. He's not inspired by scary movies like Ghostface. Etc, etc. But in this movie, the babysitter is full of motives. His obvious motives made his victims all the more obvious and mundane.This could've been an interesting movie if it had nothing to do with the Halloween franchise. That's just one major problem I have with this film as part of the Halloween franchise. I don't have the number of texts to type all the other ones 😅
I cant believe this movie has a massive fanbase THIS WAS NOT THE HALLOWEEN MOVIE WE WANTED!!!!! NOT TO END THE OG 1978 TIMELIME!!!! I get it , it was " different " , its not a bad movie it felt like a halloween antholgy if they go to a tv series to me it felt like that , but cmon lets be serious!! , great review fucking love you sexy dudes🔪🎃🔪🎃🔪
I can’t believe how many positive comments I’m seeing. There should be zero positive comments. ZERO! This movie was a giant dic# slap in the face to all Michael Myers fans
The silent alarm trigger thing Loomis refers to early on could conceivably happen to another kid in and around Haddonfield. Maybe even the lame kid cast in Ends…
From someone who likes Ends, John Carpenter would approve Michael Myers singing "Daddy Would You Like Some Sausage" for an hour and a half straight if they gave him $20 bucks and a Denny's coupon to say so. That's not saying much.
@@WeWatchedAMovie lol There are definitely 2 sides of Carpenter. One is the sausage selling director of The Ward...the other has a Shape on his shoulder that defines his career, and knew the $10M he felt was owed to him for "40 Years!" (in my Brackett voice) was in the backend of this trilogy as EP. Still.. it is a toss up on which side showed up lol
The focus of the first one was on Laurie, Michael was around 10 minutes on screen. The thing is with 2018 and Kills people got a LOT of Michael butchering people and I think most of viewers wanted that. I loved the hell out of Ends the way it was given to us ❤️🙏🏻
I couldn’t agree more. The only time it is acceptable for the focus to not entirely be on Michael Myers is when the focus is on the people trying to escape Michael.
I'm with Mike on this one. I actually enjoy it as a standalone movie, Corey is great and its shot well with some good kills. But as a concluding movie to the recent trilogy it just doesn't make sense. In KILLS he was getting more powerful with every kill, and he killed a lot. In ENDS they hint that he's been killing whilst he's been in the sewers. So why is he weak and why has he been in there for 4 years with no explanation? They could of wrote anything for a reason on how Corey gets Michael's mask, but they chose THAT way. I hope one day we will get some information on what was going on behind the scenes and what was Malek's and Blumhouse's reaction when they saw the first cut.
I can honestly say i havent re-watched this since its release last yr, i hated it. I might re-watch it in a Halloween marathon as well as Rob Zombies turds (1st 1 is ok but 2nd is awful). Ive just watched ALL SAWs (includin X) over the last week so am set for all Halloweens this weekend
While I don’t like the movie, I think Rohan Campbell had a believable character and had good screen presence. Honestly, I like him more than Laurie. lol. He was also so cool at the horror hound I went to. Really appreciative for the role, seemed like a genuine and funny guy. James Jude Courtney on the other hand came off as pretty strange in a new age hippie kind of way. Which is fine, but he kept going back to these life lessons that he said he brought to the role, which to me at least seemed like they didn’t relate or random. lol
I think as a standalone slasher movie Ends is a lot of fun and one of the best in the franchise . It's just a terrible way to end a trilogy. I think it will be a fan favorite years down the road when you aren't viewing it as a trilogy. I do understand why it upsets people though. I wish this would have been its own film outside of a trilogy.
I have been a Halloween fan since I first watched the original two in 1988'ish (back-to-back). I was there when Mustafa Akkad decided to axe Meyers in Halloween 3 for the Season of The Witch. I remember sneaking into the theater to see both Halloween 4 and 5. No matter how bad the worst films got I still found enjoyment out of them if only slight. Halloween Ends was without a doubt an attempt to destroy the series by a talentless woke director and the well past her prime, Curtis. Oh but of course that wasn't enough for the leech. Now, he has taken The Exorcist series and exploited it as well for his own twisted gains. Thankfully, it was such a box office failure that it made End's earnings seem like a Star Wars film release pre-Kennedy. Welcome to the Panderverse. No death threats, that's fuc*ing stupid..
All year you tell mom and dad you want a gaming system for Christmas. Mom and dad say we hear you, and you’ll be so excited when you see what you get! Christmas Day comes and you find a cool Zed longboard under the tree. It’s a cool board, but it’s not what was asked for or agreed on. Plus, mom and dad know you’re a street skater and this isn’t even a Christian Hosoi. Nothing wrong with the longboard, but it is now a double-fail to meet expectations. That’s Ends.
They couldn't introduce Cory in Halloween 2018 because that wasn't the plan. The original plan was to have this all in one night (You know that, I know) but Covid happened and it gave the writers too much time on their hands. I wish they'd had this idea first. I also wish that if they had decided to do it, they would've made it maybe Cameron or even Tommy Doyle. Someone we somewhat cared about. They couldn't do that either because they killed nearly all their legacy characters. Its very weird because I actually do LOVE Halloween Ends, but I'm so frustrated with the sloppy storytelling of the trilogy. They should've stuck with the original plan of making it all one night and then done this. Put the end of Halloween Ends at the beginning and then you throw in the Cory storyline and make it a whodunit...its a better conceived idea. Is Michael alive? Do we have a copy cat? Has evil taken over the town and picked a new person? Is the radio tower on an anciet burial ground causing evil to spread? SOMETHING, MAN! I needed something with that damn radio tower!
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The biggest person I felt the most sorry for was James Jude Courtney. Terrible way for him to go out after two great performances.
He got the shaft! Big time!
Sounds like he’s super proud of it so idk why you feel sorry for him.
i thought so too bro smh
Damn 🎯
Sucks he had to die in a terrible movie
"This was a romance movie and then someone remembered it was supposed to be a 'Halloween' movie and said, 'Oh, I've got to write that in!'" is the best summary I have heard of this movie.
Ends had great ideas that they introduced too late into the franchise. It's more frustrating than bad
Should have flipped the movies Ends, Kills, 18. With obvious tweaks to the storyline.
Nah it's just bad 😂
@crow_g1639 lol it's not that bad. There's been worse
@@crow_g1639 you like simple bland taste then
@@memecity9849the scene where Laurie offers Michael some Activia and he shits all over her face was epic. He shat all over that camera, like yummm oooh baby, yassss, yasssss Queen. Yassssss, shat all over that face like yasssss
Besides rewrites, i believe this was a creative way to end the franchise. Especially after 20+ years of Michael Myers, it would have been hard NOT to make a stereotypical walk around and slash film that we have seen recreated. This film put some things down for the next Halloween creators to either pick up or scrap. This film was about the fear of Michael Myers, what it has caused, and what really happens when you look into those eyes. People affected by Michael didn’t wanna leave town they wanted revenge. Becoming less and less of themselves and more vengeful/empty. Leaving room for Corey to exist.
I think if the pandemic never shut down movie productions and caused all these delays then Halloween Ends would have been a different film then what we got. I agree with Mike that it's a good stand-alone movie but as the 3rd film in a Halloween trilogy it failed.
I still would love to see the original pitch where Kills and Ends take place the same night as H18 and were supposed to be shot back-to-back. With Ends finishing with the battle between Laurie and Michael and the November 1st sunrise showing up. THAT would have great imo!
@@pablog5965Halloween 2018 0000-1800.
Halloween kills 1800-2100.
Halloween Ends 2100-0000
Those would've been the times I would've placed them on the same day.
@@pablog5965That was never the case. That was never going to be the case. Paul Brad Logan (Ends writer) even confirmed this.
My brain honestly can’t even begin to comprehend mikes love for this movie but goddammit I respect (ps I was actually on board for Cory getting infected with evil and agree that tag team scene was BADASS)
If Corey and Cameron were the same guy, and he survived the events of Kills... EVERYTHING WOULD MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE.
If Cameron and Allyson survive a face off with Michael, their relationship is already established and we don't need the honeymoon/love blossoms story that Ends tells.
Both of them losing a mother and father - both halves of the parental unit - inside of the Myers House is perfect for explaining why they're broken after.
Also, 2018 and Kills constantly push that the Elams are looked down on by the town. It would make the outcast treatment of Corey much more fitting if it was Cameron instead.
And switching the basic idea of Kills and Ends…imagine Michael being injured because of the fire, Laurie calming down because she thinks she got him (rather than her calming down while he’s loose lol) Cameron being in the Corey role, and by the third movie we have a big slasher movie like Kills where Michael and “Corey” are going on their own separate killing sprees (instead of following that Tivoli shit) with Allyson trying to stop Corey and Laurie trying to stop Michael - old generation and new generation, evil ACTUALLY changing shape, etc. and then Allyson gets her time as the new final girl after everything she went through
The second movie being a true quiet character study that dissects Michael’s evil and the third being a huge bloody climax
@@CarloisBuriedAlivelike this idea
You’re a goddamn genius !
maaan hell, if Corey walked by them in the school during a hallway scene or something woulda been okay 😂😂😂😂😂
If Halloween Ends was a standalone movie, even a Halloween movie, it would be good. As the final chapter in a trilogy, it was a huge departure from its own trilogy. It didn't fit in my opinion.
Ends is the most depressed ive been after highly anticipating a film and being let down
I think most of us expected some type of silliness to be interjected after Kills. I think Kills has aged the worst...even though Kills does by far have the best iteration of the Myers character in the whole trilogy. It's too bad the Kills Myers wasn't in the 2018 film.
@DaisyTheCorgi heart broken man
@@jacebales2951 kills aged the worst??? Please further explain.
@@cakeboy2278 I hated Kills.
That's a pretty good way of describing of Halloween Ends is I felt depressed after watching it. Disappointed yes but also just depressed as well which made me not even talk about the film until months later.
Cameron should have been the one to eventually turn into a killer. His character was there from the start and they could have built a thread for his character from 2018 to Ends.
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They got me more into Whores.
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I would love to hear what the original concept for this trilogy was because it feels like they made it up as they went along
100 percent agree. I feel like they never really had a true vision for a trilogy. Rumor was they really never intended to do a trilogy when they wrote the first script. You can tell from the two sequels that gives vibes they were just making this shit up as they went along.
Omg! When he said he hated that Michael Myers was living in a sewer. It was like Michael was waiting for JG Wentworth to settle his courtcase" 😂😂😂
Welcome back Jay!! Halloween 2018 was absolutely amazing, the other two are fun.. But absolutely nothing compared to 2018.
I liked this movie much better on rewatch this week. Remove your expectations from the trilogy and it's a genuinely good stand-alone film, IMO
I respect you guys for being unbiased and honest with these re-reviews. Thanks for the entertainment fellas!
I respect both of your opinions but I stand with Jay. Speaking of which, I wish Jay was in more videos. He makes me laugh every time and it never fails!
You should watch the livestreams!
I hate Halloween Ends. I watched it again to try to give it another chance but naaah lol!! It makes Resurrection look like gold 😂😂😂😂
I’m with you. It was a disgrace. Surprisingly most of the comments are saying they liked it or saying something good about it. I don’t get how any Michael Myers/Halloween fan can appreciate Ends. I’ll never get over it lol
I’m to the point where I can never rewatch this film, it just hurts so much seeing Michael disrespected that way
At least Ends had a cast that could actually act unlike over half of the so called actors in 2018 and Kills. That alone would be enough for me to choose Ends but it also has the best character (Corey) and I would even say the best score.
Love watching you guys talk Halloween, never gets old! Love the channel and still absolutely love Halloween Ends!! 🤘🎃
we seem to be a minority xD but i enjoyed it, kinda like H3, just watch it as a one-off to the trilogy which is in a alternative universe anyway
@@ludocrious7898 It does seem like a minority lol but I have talked to many people that live the film and even apart of some horror groups that all love it. I do think though that it is a perfect ending to the Blumhouse story, it is different yes but I dont just enjoy it for being different, I love it for the story it told and the different perspectives that the film gives us on these characters and this world we love so much, I look at Ends as an extended epilogue to the trilogy Kills wrapped up and appreciate the behind the curtains look at Haddonfield and its residents in the wake of Michael Myers, not the night of his rampage or another seasonal slaughter film, it gets in there and shows some bonus sh!t lol.
@@kailshrouf2470 fair enough, i saw it twice on the premiere too
The frustarting thing was Corey getting bullied by Squirt-Gun Kelly.
It’s ok he got him back
Just looking at Mike's face on the thumbnails, you can see the disappointment as the films go on, like life draining from him
Pretend these movies were made in the 80's.
2018: Obligatory re-hash sequel.
'Kills': Obligatory 80's slasher.
'Ends': Obligatory break in formula + John Carpenter homage (because he originally broke the formula).
Halloween Kills was the best Halloween movie ever IMO. At least it gave us what we want which is Michael killing and killing brutally. This movie did none of that...
I can’t give them credit for creating a “standalone movie” because that wasn’t the assignment. They failed the test by giving the wrong answers. This was not the movie to end the Halloween trilogy.
You are 100% right I understand both sides, I really do
Love seeing the boys in the same room!
I'd rate it a 3 personally. I'm with J on this one. If they had introduced Corey earlier in the series I'd have given it a 7
I feel like ends and 2018 need to be swapped, would have made more sense
For me I just view Halloween 1978 and 2018 as a sequel. Everything else is it’s own imagining this included. If this, and the rob zombie movies were called ANYTHING else with different characters they would be solid horror movies but here we are
So I actually worked on this movie (sweeping floors, loading and unloading trucks.... grunt shit). I supposedly have a credit on this movie.... still haven't seen it haha. Love your fucking faces
Halloween ends is the most disappointing movie I have ever seen. They made Michael a wimp and didn’t follow any threads from kills
Worse than Resurrection and H2 RZ? mmmmm, slight over reaction i think
@@Myersmad316Definitely worse than Resurrection. Nothing is worse than RZ H2 though. Like literally nothing.
@@Myersmad316it’s more disappointing but maybe not worse. I don’t think anyone expected resurrection to be good and it wasn’t and it’s worse than ends but we expected better from zombies H2 so it’s in contention for most disappointing but in all honesty it’s 50/50 between those 2 movies for me.
@@ReservoirPunknot even close to being as bad as resurrection I'm sorry
I disagree.. this Halloween ends was the worst of all times
I enjoyed these three Halloween movies, but the backlash they received got me thinking about what I would have done differently with them (which is always fun to think about). Personally, I would have had 2018 be the way it is (maybe with some minor tweaks😅), and have it end the exact way it did; Laurie, Karen, and Allison get away, and we see the basement burning with no Michael in it. The Myers house would be demolished, like it was in Ends, leaving Michael with nowhere to go back to and in search of a new “home.” The next movie, which would be my final movie if I had it my way, would be a continuation of 2018 with Allison in her senior year at college in a different state (maybe somewhere semi-close to Illinois, or in California if you want to pay homage to H20). With Halloween approaching, Allison begins to see Michael during the day, just as Laurie did leading up to Halloween night in 1978. Of course, Allison assumes she’s hallucinating from some resurfaced trauma from 2018, as Michael is there and gone like in the original movie. Allison has a strange feeling that these “hallucinations” are real, as people around campus are starting to go missing day by day. Allison begins fearing the worst and realizes that this time, she must face Michael alone; with no Karen or Laurie to help her, she begins to lose control. Those around her are concerned for her wellbeing, but she is not having any of it. Her friends decide to distance themselves from her, and her boyfriend, unable to deal with the situation, breaks up with Allison. This leaves Allison isolated, paranoid, and afraid, just like her grandmother. The ending would conclude with many people being victims of Michael until Allison is forced to confront him one-on-one in a similar chase scene to H20 (Allison is being chased around campus, and eventually uses her “home field advantage” to get the upper hand). I would end the movie with a definitive conclusion with Allison coming out the victor, but I would not be mad at all with an open ended conclusion if someone were to do that instead.
Obviously there is a lot more that would tie into the movie, but this is what I just thought of when Ends came out and all of the backlash happened. You could include Laurie and/or Karen in the movie, but if I did it might be something as simple as Allison on a phone call with her mom and another call with her grandmother on vacation with her husband, Frank Hawkins, in Japan under cherry blossom trees. I think Allison going through a similar situation as Laurie with everyone leaving her isolated and viewing her as a basket case would be interesting because Allison would now understand why Laurie was the way she was, and everyone thinking she is crazy would make sense because they are outside of Haddonfield where Michael is not a well-known figure. I don’t know, just my thoughts😅, as I am sure there are plenty of flaws in it like people wanting to know how Michael escaped the basement and made it to another state; however, I feel like what has always made Michael so scary was that things are not always explained with him, and that is what makes him more terrifying. There would also be a lot more stalking and shots in the movie of him in the background observing things, as this is how he was in the original movie (he stuck to the shadows and let the suspense build instead of charging in like a mindless monster, which I also find more terrifying). Also, I miss seeing Michael out in the daytime, as there was a whole other level of horror involved in him being out in broad daylight; this opens the door for him to be more of a presence throughout the movie, not just at nighttime.
Hey at least you gave it some thought and not just saying why didn't we meet Corey earlier? (Like that matters) I don't think Micheal has stalked anyone for the purpose of killing except Annie (yup I said it), he rolls up on Judith like he does everyone else and wasn't running across to street to take out Laurie until she discovered his "art" over at Lindsey's house. Could he have become equally as fixated on Allyson? Absolutely. In 2018, they were in the backseat together, she stabs him and in Kills he is toying with her in his house. I enjoyed all 3 movies as well. Had he followed Allyson to college the hate would have been oh they did Scream 2. People don't want original and they don't want the same, they just want to complain.
@@nolipgloss1343 I get it. Part of my explanation for why Michael would seemingly stalk Allison at college stems exactly from your points. She was in the backseat of the police car when Dr. Sartain got attacked, and Michael basically let her live by attacking Sartain (showing how much he hated that man😅), she helped her mom and grandmother trap him in the basement, then she went into his home, tried to shoot him, stabbed him, and then taunted him. I think Michael did feel hatred towards Allison in Kills because there is a moment, at the top of the stairs in the Myers house, when he stops to look at Allison, and I felt like that was a look of, “YOU! I remember you!” If Michael is truly human (which they also never truly decided; one minute he was “just an old man in a mask,” and the next he’s wiping out half the town) then he should have human emotions such as hatred. I wish there would have been a moment in Ends where Michael saw Laurie’s picture of herself and her friends from back around 1978; perhaps that could have been the moment where Michael realizes who Laurie is, but they also never truly decided whether or not Michael was after Laurie. 2018 made it seem like his sole purpose was to find Laurie and kill her, Kills made his purpose to simply go back to his house, and Ends was mostly other characters. They danced around the idea too much without pulling the trigger on it, which I think wasted time and potential. I agree that it would have made the trilogy better if there were more characters who were present throughout all of the movies. Corey easily could’ve been a side character that everyone in the school saw as the shy, weird kid; you could have had a simple exchange between Corey and Cameron that shows Cameron’s underlying d-bag tendencies by bullying Corey, and have Allison stick up for him like hey knock it off. That would also set up more backstory as to why Corey was so obsessed with Allison; she was the only person who was nice to him back then, and here she is 4 years later and he has the chance to be with her, just like he wanted, and he wasn’t going to let anything stand in his way of being with her.
@@KyleKaiser7 It's highly likely that Allison's actions, especially that crucial moments in the Myers house did make an impression however, with Carpenter's script approval and control over Micheal as a character, he is pure evil and that's all we are going to get. I'm ok with that because I'm not a big 4-6 fan when Michael was not the Shape but basically the main character. It's unfortunate that Allyson's character development wasn't built around what was already set up as it does appear to be more complexity to the dynamic between Allyson and Michael than presented in Ends. The concept of a Cameron-Corey-Allison dynamic is intriguing, although Corey's age (20 in 2018) might have posed a challenge for inclusion in their peer group. Allyson's attraction to the darkness within Corey could have added significant depth, but it seems these aspects were left either unexplored or the visual clues didn't land in Ends. While the trilogy certainly had its moments, it's captivating to consider the uncharted territories they might have ventured into. Ends was a success because we are still talking about it and more than 2018 and Kills.
@@nolipgloss1343 that’s all very true. I wonder how different Ends would have been had the pandemic not happened? I know they went back and changed things before the official release, but I wonder how much of the movie they actually changed. A lot of people hate that it wasn’t all in one night, but stretching the story out over 4 years wasn’t a bad thing in my opinion.
@@KyleKaiser7 They had to switch from NC to GA for Ends so with no access to the town, nor the recreated Lampkin Lane set changes had to be made even if it was just to reframe the intended story. I'm ok with the time jump as well.
Halloween Ends rules. Come back in 20 years when it's appreciated more.
My god , the annexation of Puerto Rico is something I still use till this day , exactly why I love you guys! Appreciate the effort and insight you both always put in very informative , fun and insightful. I’m looking for Ray Finkel and a clean pair of shorts.
Writing 101. NEVER introduce a new antagonist into the 3rd act of a 3 act play. It's confusing and disingenuous.
Ends didn't deliver in what had already been established in the previous 2. J is right. DGG tried to think outside the box and give us something different. The problem is, we wanted what was already in the box. An epic finale where its all about Michael and Laurie.
Corey was nothing but a rehash Cunningham character from Christine. Hawkins character went nowhere. Sheriff Barker, missed opportunity. Lindsay was forgotten about, just like Laurie's description of Michael at the end of Kills. And Alyson. WTF!?!?! The one character I disliked more than Corey, and I loved her in 2018 and Kills.
Ends is a prime example on how to completely fuck a trilogy.
Piss poor. 2/10. And that's generous.
Jay really spoke from the heart like MLK lmao
I'm with J on this one. I actually enjoyed Ends more the second time I've watched it but I still think it's the weakest out of this trilogy because it doesn't even feel like a logical continuation from where Kills left off. If they wanted to explore Lauries trauma in 2018, the towns trauma in Kills and how it all affected future generations in Ends, they really should have focused on Allyson as the main character instead of having her as a love interest in a forced as f*ck relationship. It could have been such an interesting trilogy about how random acts of violence affect people for generations. But instead they did... this.
I get some of it and enjoy some of the scenes. Think the acting is good, the music is fantastic. But it is just so poorly executed. I still enjoy this one more than some other Halloween movies but it's still such a dissapointment since I loved 2018 and Kills so much more.
Totally agree with Jay's assessment of the movie. The only thing different is my rating, which is just a little lower at 4/10. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I never understood why Laurie spent 40 yrs tryin to kill Michael for killing her friends, but all of a sudden stops after he kills her daughter?! Like really?! She should of been hunting him even more and doing whatever she could to find and kill him once and for all. The character progression didn't make sense, like Laurie and Hawkins, when they say each other it was like they haven't seen each other in years in that small a town. They acted like everything happened a month ago or something.
I know that didn't any sense 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Omg your smiles in the re-review thumbnail 😅 love it!
The Little Giants reference on point! 😂
I like this film. I have a slew of problems with it, but I enjoy talking to other people about it. But often new points get brought up that give me even more problems.
Indecision is huge in a franchise like this. I don’t think that 2018’s ending was incredibly satisfying, but that’s probably the best we’ve gotten because there is no clear way to kill off an unkillable character. And calling the movie “Halloween Ends” was a mistake. They had a start point but no real end in mind so they had to do weird things to get there.
If they not did the Corey Cunningham thing it would’ve been good. All 3 of the Blum House films paid homage to all the films before it but yeah they could’ve implemented the Michael killing vicariously through another person a lot better though we could’ve did without it altogether
@WeWatchedAMovie Mike I really want one of those shirts ☹️ Also thanks for liking my pic of you guys in my Father’s Day frame I showed today 🤟🏼 That totally made my day and you’re right it is beautiful 💪🏼
I like ends reminded me of a late 1990 thriller horror movie like disturbing behavior , urban legends etc
i still havent figured out if i love ends or not.
Halloween kills shouldn’t have been experimental. I never thought a Halloween movie could make me hate it more than resurrection and the rob zombie halloweens. Congrats David Gordon green….You did it!!
Halloween Ends is Basically the movie Christine with Micheal Myers in it lol
The one we’ve all been waiting for !
The movie was cool in my opinion, but the problem of the movie was the ending sooooooooo sad :(
I always thought the entire trilogy should of started with Corey being a copy cat style serial killer with Myers slowly making a return. Halloween 2018 would be the second film and the 3rd film would be the events of Halloween Kills.
This movie was just such a total let down. As being a die-hard Halloween Michael Myers fan, I felt like it was a slap in the face and a kick in the balls. I was thinking the whole time like what the fuck is going on? How is Michael Myers a guest star in his own movie? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️💯💯 You're right though A standalone movie this definitely works. Just waiting for the reboot now
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Wait... were we not meant to see the beginning of the previous upload?
My sides were splitting at it, I loved it
Parts of it were a joke but not me shirtless LMAO
@@WeWatchedAMovie I'll be honest I thought the WHOLE pre "HEY GUYS" was a bit and it was all very fucking funny
It was one of those bits that sounded funny when you were drunk lmao
@@WeWatchedAMovie Don't out me like this 🥴🍺
I gave Halloween Ends a rewatch recently and I think it was slightly better than the first time I’d seen it. There’s a good Halloween movie buried underneath all the ideas but at the end of the day… it’s just not Halloween.
Btw, that Little Giants reference…. 😂😂😂
I heard people say they love Halloween Ends cos of how little it has Myers, and no lies these same people say they love Halloween 3 season of the witch cos it has No myers..
like imo they don't want Myers anymore they imo watch a different horror movie.
Cos it sounds like they gone off Michael.. I mean how can u have Halloween with Myers -_- That's like friday the 13th without Jason, or a nightmare without freddy LMAO
So good to see the band back together WOO
I had never watched it until today , I actually loved the movie . I give it a solid 8. I believe after the bridge accident with Corey he somehow became a imprint , like a assistant of Michael like a extension and that’s 🔥🔥🔥🔥 .watching him was like watching Michael without a mask and with that, I feel like ends should have made it known that Michael could do what ever power like sigh he did in the film earlier on. But overall it was a 8 for me
It's hard to unsee them as a Batman and Robin duo
This movie proves the director had no idea how to end the trilogy
As a huge fan of the franchise in all, not just MM, or one or two of the movies, I'm against the loud voices of the minority i love this movie, loved the ending too, watching Michael getting turned into smush and Laurie getting her happy ending, they needed a definitive ending for their storyline, so this was definitive and there is no coming back to the strode storyline, which the "majority" of the fan base wanted, then they moan that MM was disrespected, not sure how you should respect a killing machine lol . I didn't mind the risks they took, the only bit I didn't like was when Corey took the mask of MM the way he did. We need to get away from the "MM wasn't on screen enough" BS excuse as well, there is to many sheep in this fanbase, one person says the "hate" it and then everyone joins in claiming the same, despite either never seeing the movie, or watching it once, and never going back to it again. Rant over, i respect people not liking this movie if they can actually give constructive reasons as to why (Like Mike and Jay with their awesome opinions) but i just think the negativity that comes out these days through social media unfairly influences people before they even see the movie, and believe they will hate it, watch it and have to say it was shit as they follow the social media influencers, no one has their own opinions these days which is sad. I'm soon to be forty and i remember word of mouth hype and how amazing it made going to the cinema, nowadays its all negative shite that comes out of peoples mouths destroying the actual movie experience. My original score was 7.5 and it remains at that for me. Ends wasn't the issue, Kills is where the story derailed as they made MM supernatural at the end of Kills, meaning Ends was always going to be a bit strange storywise in the fans eyes.
You cut out the beginning when jay is pondering bringing women to the wwAM family and mike showing off his belly😅! Bring it back!!! Seriously Jay has a good idea. Collaborate with other youtubers more often. Being a woman is optional but a good idea💪🔥🖖
LMAO that was the ass end of a very long conversation! Very out of context but we have something were working on!
@@WeWatchedAMovie
We basically saw a business meeting and it was pretty professional. Nothing wrong at all. Maybe showing off your belly would get you in trouble with HR though🤣
A business meeting that was 12 beers deep lmao
I’ll agree with anyone that the ending and Michael’s screen time was stupid, but I still love this movie. I honestly feel like it’s the one time DGG’s message about society was done well. The Boy Harsher song Burn It Down - Rework is a stupidly good song too for the soundtrack
That Boy Harsher song rips!
I agree Cory should've been introduced in Halloween 2018 fleshed out his character his development turning evil
I honestly felt like Halloween ends was a breath of fresh air. I respect the fact that they went for something new. Yea the part when Micheal gets his mask taken was crossing the line. I also wasn't happy with the woodchipper ending but overall, I have respect for the movie.
It ends at Halloween 2018 for me with the Fire fighting scene being the Epilogue.
Most people forget that the original storyline for ends would take place the same night as kills but covid delayed them from filming both movies back-to-back. This was still a fun plot to make up for what was originally planned
And why would Covid stop them from still filming what they had planned once they were able to start filming the movie ?
@@MR.__G Could be a number of things, plenty to be excused from making the original script but I don't know for sure. I'm guessing it mainly has to do with everyone's schedule on the crew. Actors and filmmakers are busy with other projects, and they only probably had a limited time in certain locations or lost access to those locations, props, and other stuff
@@kev_jr but you only needed 2 characters to come back, Laurie & Allyson.. Myers has the ability to be played my multiple actors if need be. I just don’t see how Covid could make them write a different story.. if anything that’s just an excuse for the backlash they got from the terrible film
What I love about this time a year is I get wwamed on my feed hard and love it! 😂
Every time I rewatch this movie it get worse and worse
I STAND BY THAT MOVIE 100%
Ends was my favorite of the trilogy.
Very hemroidal opinion , Butt I love it 💯🤘
I hate this film, easily my least fav of the franchise, and yes, I dislike it more than H5
Thanks for doing this, you guys are awesome :)
With that being said, I feel like ENDS is a Stephen king adaptation of what a Halloween movie is. Echoing the other comments, Christine is written all over this.
Thanks for sharing another entertaining video guys!!! 🎃🎃🎃
Jamie Lee Curtis even said in press that this was going to piss people off. Indeed 😉
Also, the script changed because of the pandemic.
What we got, we should still be appreciative of a new Halloween movie 🍿🎥 that's all...
It isn't a Halloween movie. It's the second anthology movie in the Halloween series.
@@niallcallaghan6717 okay, agreed 👍
For me even halloween resurrection has a spot in my heart but Ends left me so disappointed, and st the very least they couldve introduced corey in one of the other 2 movies. Maybe not even a big part but just have him present, maybe even have the accident with the kid happen sometime during kills
The funny thing about the sewer fight scene is the story JJC told; apparently what we DIDN’T see was Corey lifting Michael up over his head before throwing him down 🤦🏼♂️😂
Mike was right in the first review when he said it gave us shit to talk about. We’ve been theorizing and coming up with what if scenarios for a year and it’s been a shit ton of fun. So for that; I’ve grown to appreciate it.
I think they messed up with making the first two movies the same night, just like the original… they should have had Kills begin with Michael escaping the fire and then flashforward. The timeframe of the one-night is messed up in both the original Halloween II and Kills because of this stretch. If they had just based Kills in a different year, and maybe then introduce Corey, etc. it would have made more sense.
Also, why is Michael unstoppable?
Is it “Samhain”, which is some reason a part of the title of Laurie’s memoir, but not mentioned in this trilogy, and retconned beforehand?
Also, if he’s unstoppable, how was he apprehended and committed for 40 years? What stopped him from killing all of his fellow inmates and hospital staff?
It’s that goddamned silver shamrock mask, I tell you. He didn’t have it, podcasters gave it to him, he decides to escape. It gets burned up and he loses his power. It’s the mask. The mask is his power.
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They should’ve called “Ends” The Cory Cunningham Project (Ft. Laurie & Michael)
I agree with you both that Halloween 2018 is a real tasty treat. Easily my favourite since the OG gangsta shit.
Kills was a bloody good time, some whacky characters and “Evil Dies Tonight!” aside, I really dug it!
Ends was a mess. Jay is spot on that Cunningham should’ve been introduced in Kills. Just really jarring how his story took up 70% of the film. Shame cos the actual Michael and Laurie stuff was great. Just wasn’t enough of it.
Halloween 2018 - 8.5
Kills - 7.5
Ends - 6
Watching your videos leading up to Halloween ends is what made me subscribe. You guys were stoked, I was stoked and then the movie came. And it was a pretty big disappointment
I would have settled with Corey finding Myers dead body and takes the mask from him, but MM wakes up and goes after Corey.
I’d have taken that over Corey beating Mickey up and taking it from him. Especially when Michael doesn’t really end up killing him and taking it back.
As a stand alone movie this would still be insanely bad. Nothing made sense, Michael was a bitch, Cory was annoying. I was in shock how bad it was. Like the movie ended and I just sat there
Halloween Ends is my favourite of the series
Why mm is my favorite horror villain is because I find him the most compellingly scary, at least conceptual. The shape is haunting because it has no motive; it is evil unfiltered and pure. It's that lack of motive that makes him almost supernatural, as if something not of this world broke into our reality on Halloween and chose an innocent child as a vessel. Simply the blackest eyes. For me, that's who Michael myers really is, and that's when his lore is at its' peak imo.
He's not a mentally challenged momma's boy like Jason. He's not a perv after his own desires like Freddy. He's not inspired by scary movies like Ghostface. Etc, etc.
But in this movie, the babysitter is full of motives. His obvious motives made his victims all the more obvious and mundane.This could've been an interesting movie if it had nothing to do with the Halloween franchise.
That's just one major problem I have with this film as part of the Halloween franchise. I don't have the number of texts to type all the other ones 😅
I cant believe this movie has a massive fanbase THIS WAS NOT THE HALLOWEEN MOVIE WE WANTED!!!!! NOT TO END THE OG 1978 TIMELIME!!!! I get it , it was " different " , its not a bad movie it felt like a halloween antholgy if they go to a tv series to me it felt like that , but cmon lets be serious!! , great review fucking love you sexy dudes🔪🎃🔪🎃🔪
I can’t believe how many positive comments I’m seeing. There should be zero positive comments. ZERO! This movie was a giant dic# slap in the face to all Michael Myers fans
@@Jsizzle6809true but people could like what they like am just upset we should've gotten a better sendoff
I think its hilarious that this movie gets the same response Halloween 3 gets.
The silent alarm trigger thing Loomis refers to early on could conceivably happen to another kid in and around Haddonfield. Maybe even the lame kid cast in Ends…
John Carpenter approved the script. It IS a Halloween movie whether you like it or not.
From someone who likes Ends, John Carpenter would approve Michael Myers singing "Daddy Would You Like Some Sausage" for an hour and a half straight if they gave him $20 bucks and a Denny's coupon to say so. That's not saying much.
@@WeWatchedAMovie lol There are definitely 2 sides of Carpenter. One is the sausage selling director of The Ward...the other has a Shape on his shoulder that defines his career, and knew the $10M he felt was owed to him for "40 Years!" (in my Brackett voice) was in the backend of this trilogy as EP. Still.. it is a toss up on which side showed up lol
Ah this movie was so unforgivable.
If this movie was a different title, I would’ve liked it better but for a Halloween movie not for me the focus should always be Michael Myers
The focus of the first one was on Laurie, Michael was around 10 minutes on screen. The thing is with 2018 and Kills people got a LOT of Michael butchering people and I think most of viewers wanted that.
I loved the hell out of Ends the way it was given to us ❤️🙏🏻
I couldn’t agree more. The only time it is acceptable for the focus to not entirely be on Michael Myers is when the focus is on the people trying to escape Michael.
@@realbillybutcher4071 Tommy Doyle, character ruined. The whole Halloween kills movie for me.
Halloween 2018 was the Laurie movie
Halloween Kills was the Haddonfield and Michael movie
Halloween Ends was The Laurie and Corey movie
@@Doglover79586Tommy Doyle was annoying as fuck in that movie.
I'm with Mike on this one. I actually enjoy it as a standalone movie, Corey is great and its shot well with some good kills. But as a concluding movie to the recent trilogy it just doesn't make sense. In KILLS he was getting more powerful with every kill, and he killed a lot. In ENDS they hint that he's been killing whilst he's been in the sewers. So why is he weak and why has he been in there for 4 years with no explanation? They could of wrote anything for a reason on how Corey gets Michael's mask, but they chose THAT way. I hope one day we will get some information on what was going on behind the scenes and what was Malek's and Blumhouse's reaction when they saw the first cut.
True story: This movie was so bad it revived Richie from Scream 5
explain 😂
It's mediocre. Not as a great as fanboys claim not as awful as it's detractors say. Although it's clear DGG wanted to make a Christine remake.
I agree with Jay 💯
I feel like they were trying to say that the mask gives you powers
I can honestly say i havent re-watched this since its release last yr, i hated it. I might re-watch it in a Halloween marathon as well as Rob Zombies turds (1st 1 is ok but 2nd is awful). Ive just watched ALL SAWs (includin X) over the last week so am set for all Halloweens this weekend
While I don’t like the movie, I think Rohan Campbell had a believable character and had good screen presence. Honestly, I like him more than Laurie. lol. He was also so cool at the horror hound I went to. Really appreciative for the role, seemed like a genuine and funny guy. James Jude Courtney on the other hand came off as pretty strange in a new age hippie kind of way. Which is fine, but he kept going back to these life lessons that he said he brought to the role, which to me at least seemed like they didn’t relate or random. lol
I think as a standalone slasher movie Ends is a lot of fun and one of the best in the franchise . It's just a terrible way to end a trilogy. I think it will be a fan favorite years down the road when you aren't viewing it as a trilogy. I do understand why it upsets people though. I wish this would have been its own film outside of a trilogy.
I have been a Halloween fan since I first watched the original two in 1988'ish (back-to-back). I was there when Mustafa Akkad decided to axe Meyers in Halloween 3 for the Season of The Witch. I remember sneaking into the theater to see both Halloween 4 and 5. No matter how bad the worst films got I still found enjoyment out of them if only slight. Halloween Ends was without a doubt an attempt to destroy the series by a talentless woke director and the well past her prime, Curtis.
Oh but of course that wasn't enough for the leech. Now, he has taken The Exorcist series and exploited it as well for his own twisted gains. Thankfully, it was such a box office failure that it made End's earnings seem like a Star Wars film release pre-Kennedy. Welcome to the Panderverse. No death threats, that's fuc*ing stupid..
It looks really good the color schemes and the action and killing scenes are good
All year you tell mom and dad you want a gaming system for Christmas. Mom and dad say we hear you, and you’ll be so excited when you see what you get! Christmas Day comes and you find a cool Zed longboard under the tree. It’s a cool board, but it’s not what was asked for or agreed on. Plus, mom and dad know you’re a street skater and this isn’t even a Christian Hosoi. Nothing wrong with the longboard, but it is now a double-fail to meet expectations.
That’s Ends.
They couldn't introduce Cory in Halloween 2018 because that wasn't the plan. The original plan was to have this all in one night (You know that, I know) but Covid happened and it gave the writers too much time on their hands. I wish they'd had this idea first. I also wish that if they had decided to do it, they would've made it maybe Cameron or even Tommy Doyle. Someone we somewhat cared about. They couldn't do that either because they killed nearly all their legacy characters. Its very weird because I actually do LOVE Halloween Ends, but I'm so frustrated with the sloppy storytelling of the trilogy. They should've stuck with the original plan of making it all one night and then done this. Put the end of Halloween Ends at the beginning and then you throw in the Cory storyline and make it a whodunit...its a better conceived idea. Is Michael alive? Do we have a copy cat? Has evil taken over the town and picked a new person? Is the radio tower on an anciet burial ground causing evil to spread? SOMETHING, MAN! I needed something with that damn radio tower!