As a red sox fan i like this trade. Plus i believe the sox can get it done because the white sox assigned a scout to exclusively focus on red sox prospects
White Sox fan here. Of the offers you posted Jim I'd say only the Red Sox one was close. The guys coming from the Mets would be a hard no. The Dodgers already burned us with Miguel Vargas so no interest in them unless a DePaula is involved. All 4 were light in my opinion and to be honest, I don't consider any of them until I hear the Orioles offer....
In the dodgers trade I would think Gavin Lux and/or Diego Cartaya would be in the mix. Also 1 year left on Chris Taylor's contract if the white sox wanted a UTIL veteran. But if the white sox wanted Outman, Freeland, Vargas and George I am fine with that. Outman still has a ton of potential, his defense is locked down in center and he just needs to be more consistent with the bat.
Hey Jim, for the Dodgers trade, how about if we take Freeland and George out of it and, instead, use Cartaya and Gauthier. I mean if the "whitesox" this one maybe we can push in CT3 (eating some of his contract). That way they can start to open some more space in the 40 man roster
@robertchflynn the "if" is "if" the White Sox want to much in return for Crochet then it will be up to the Dodgers to overpay in prospects for him that no other team can offer... "IF" that's what they want to do...
There is too much smoke with the Red Sox getting Crochett. I believe he will be a Red Sox and yes I believe Abreu will be in that package. I do think the sox spend this year for another arm giving that Red Sox rotation a good look. Pitching first GM and with Bailey there as the pitching coach I think their outlook pitching wise is great.
Values are off on the Mets deal, and I think the White Sox would also require a pitcher like Tong or Tidwell included in that package to make it jive. The inclusion of Gilbert makes it interesting because he would likely be a starting OF for the Mets right out of spring training. His absence in CF makes you wonder if the Mets would move Nimmo back to CF.
If you guys can get him without Baty, then use Baty along with cash consideration, you guys can bring in second but name, there will be many this season, and Toronto might even trade Vladdy or Bichette.
He is TJ waiting to happen. Never pitched 100 inns. No from Dodgers...they already asked for Dalton Rushing and not getting him. Enjoy Mets, Phillies, Red Sox. Cohen the moron likes stupid signings...
Redox need pitching period they could very quickly be contenders if the can tighten up the mound...the need to go after t Bauer as well he's willing to play for league minimum..no brainer he paid his debt...
It has nothing to do with him paying his debt... In the eyes of many. He didn't really do anything... It's just the things that he's into Major league teams. Don't want to touch
100% Approve as a Mets fan in case I wasn’t clear. Would even sweeten the pot with Kevin Parada or Ryan Clifford, Sell McNeal as a former batting champ even. We missed out on the Sale, Giolito, Cease Whitesox implosion tours. I’d be all over this one.
Wow the price on Crochet must have come down quite a bit. Most of these "high" prospects aren't even in the top 60 prospects in MLB. Most are slotted from #70 and beyond. Last summer at the deadline the White Sox wanted top 25 prospect talent in all of MLB. I guess now they are willing to accept quantity.
The White Sox want position players 13:49 only... If it's one for three or one for four... The Red Sox clearly have the best package... I would hate to give up a first-year Gold. Glover that has an excellent arm and we don't even know Abreu s offensive potential yet... But in the Red Sox's case Crochet would be the number one and you have to give something to get something... I would also switch Bello w Kutter in the rotation... Jim, what is your favorite out of the four?
@KCurtis87 I think they will be fine with Teoscar in RF and Pages/Rushing platoon and Edman in CF and they should have money to sign Adames to play everyday SS next to his buddy Mookie at 2B
Crochet goes to the Reds for Collier, Arroyo, Marte, and maybe even Diaz (or perhaps the Reds will trade Diaz to the Mets for Baty and include him in the deal if necessary).
i mean you said yesterday the redsox didnt have a "Need" for a left ace in max fried lbut now they do? (I know they do, just didnt get the comment yesterday)
If the Mets do this trade, it would be amazing, but I would switch Mauricio for Baty and add McNeil.. Baty is basically blocked from any position. McNeil is now expendable since the Mets are high on Acuna and Mauricio.
The Dodgers want to have a six-man rotation next year. That is why Crochet would work as the fourth starter for the Dodgers. Will it happen? Who knows.
What if the White Sox want a pitcher back, and want 4 or 5 guys total? How do we know that they won't start off with really high demands, like asking the Red Sox for two of their big four? That might result in some short negotiations.
Mets fan here: I am not sold on Crochet but I feel like you can replace Gilbert/Mauricio with Baty. I love all our prospects though so I will be sad no matter the trade.
As a Mets Fan, this is a great trade for Mets. Don't see Chicago accepting the offer though. Gilbert has struggled and Mauricio has been out all year. Still hasn't resumed baseball activities. Replace Mauricio with Acuna and Chicago will probably accept. Rather use Baty than Acuna in the package.
Those dodgers prospects plus Gavin, if not included in a future trade, should do the trick. With a six man rotation coming, not taxing the starters and relievers would be a premium necessity. Then signing your pick of Beuhler &/or Flaherty and your pitching is just about set. And if Adames is attainable, well then, Dodgers are set. Plus Roki S. wanting to come here!?! Oh! My! Goodness! MLB, man your Battle Stations!!! Don C.
That was a huge fumble at the trade deadline from the Crochet camp. He could have won a WS. Dodgers got so many options this off season. I think Phillies getting Crochet and Robert would be a nice fit
As a phillies fan I feel like they will definitely want more for him. They’ll ask about Aidan Miller and i’m surprised if a crochet trade doesn’t include Justin Crawford.
@@TalkingSports-k7c He's no longer limited and pitched quite a few innings this year for a first year starter. Crochet is the goods just like Cease. The Sox are great at developing pitchers.
I'm a Met fan but as a baseball fan I feel a fair trade for Crochet should be Jet William over Gilbert. I prefer to give up Gilbert over Williams but I have to be honest as a baseball fan.
Do we really think that MLB front office guys actually use Baseball Trade Values ratings when they pitch a trade? I doubt it. I think they ask for what they want, often start high, and try to come to an arrangement.
im prob willing to let go of baty and keep mauricio not sure if that would work but thats what i would prefer. im not as high on acuna at 2b as u are just yet.
Die Hard (& Educated) Mets Fan. If they’d take Gilbert Mauricio & Baez, I’d offer to drive and pick up. Gilbert has a high ceiling. Mauricio was my favorite of the 4 headed 3b monster of 2023. Baez has potential as well. I can’t see them not asking for Jett Williams and 2 of top 7. The issue that creates is the 24 Mets played the bottom of the inning very well. If they sign the 2 bats I am hoping they do, (🐻❄️& #22 Han Solo.) We will essentially have 3 LF’s in the starting lineup. That is until Jet or Gilbert, who profiles more as a RF or Maybe Acuna or Alexi Ramirez are ready to play CF every day. Solution would be to bring back Bader and rotate the DH with the outfielders who need rest. I’d make that deal & still try to Sign Manea or Sevy. Then still try to bring De🐐 back home. (I know I said educated but a boy can dream.) In a rotation that has Senga Crochet, Peterson & Manea, we won’t have to ask the prodigal son for 180 innings. Love Your Insights and enjoy your show. Thank You #LFGM.
I’m hoping Chris Getz doesn’t screw up this trade. I thought the white Sox did well with the Dylan Cease trade. Chris Getz failed on the Eric Fedde trade. So I guess we will see.
Sox fan and as the trade itself goes, totally fine for Crochet. But I don't really want him as far as injury concerns go. Wants too much money and has been too injured for a guy who's only started for one season
I don't like the Mets package you put together. Wouldn't want to let Mauricio go. I'm sure Stearns will put together a good package if this trade is possible.
METS: Depends on WHO they want and who the players are... NO to Acuna, Jett, and Gilbert. Willing to give them Brett Baty, Mauricio, Boston Baro (SS @ #16 prospect on the farm), and Nick Morabito (outfielder @ #19 on the farm). Throwing in Baty as an extra incentive. 😂
I would rather give up Crawford than Tait seeing Realmutos less anticipated playing time because of age. Tait is so young but I can see him as a long term successor to Realmuto.
As a red sox fan i like this trade. Plus i believe the sox can get it done because the white sox assigned a scout to exclusively focus on red sox prospects
As a mets fan that deal is a go! I would try to swap out mauricio for baty tho if I could.
Yea baty more
Mauricio is a way better player than Baty. Switch hitter, speed, can play multiple posistions
White Sox fan here. Of the offers you posted Jim I'd say only the Red Sox one was close. The guys coming from the Mets would be a hard no. The Dodgers already burned us with Miguel Vargas so no interest in them unless a DePaula is involved. All 4 were light in my opinion and to be honest, I don't consider any of them until I hear the Orioles offer....
As a Mets fan I do that trade INSTANTLY. Someone send this to Sterns RN
In the dodgers trade I would think Gavin Lux and/or Diego Cartaya would be in the mix. Also 1 year left on Chris Taylor's contract if the white sox wanted a UTIL veteran. But if the white sox wanted Outman, Freeland, Vargas and George I am fine with that. Outman still has a ton of potential, his defense is locked down in center and he just needs to be more consistent with the bat.
As a red Sox fan looking at that rotation. You don't see giolito coming healthy or pivatta leaving ?
Jim Riley, I enjoy your channel. I am a Yankees fan. But think Garret Crochet the Red Sox need the most.
You showed the Red Sox starting pitching lineup with Crochet, but you left out Lucas Giolitto.
I believe Crawford is traded to Arizona with Yoshida
Hey Jim, for the Dodgers trade, how about if we take Freeland and George out of it and, instead, use Cartaya and Gauthier. I mean if the "whitesox" this one maybe we can push in CT3 (eating some of his contract). That way they can start to open some more space in the 40 man roster
As a Red Sox fan I'd make that trade today. Abreau is the current gold glove winner and he can also hit some. The other 2 are also decent prospects.
Three way
Yoshida, 2 prospects, cash to ARI
Montgomery to STL
Arenado to BOS
Dodgers would need to clear more space from their 40 man roster. Include Diego Cartaya in this trade instead of Freeland and it works.
It's really up to the Dodgers
"if they want him they'll get him"
and it wouldn't put a dent in their farm system.
of course they'll want him so "if" has nothing to do with it...
@robertchflynn the "if" is
"if" the White Sox want to much in return for Crochet then it will be up to the Dodgers to overpay in prospects for him that no other team can offer...
"IF" that's what they want to do...
I like the Red Sox trade better, the # you have is 45.00 is the best deal I see in all 4 trades.
DODGERS ARE GOING WITH A SIX MAN ROTATION
There is too much smoke with the Red Sox getting Crochett. I believe he will be a Red Sox and yes I believe Abreu will be in that package. I do think the sox spend this year for another arm giving that Red Sox rotation a good look. Pitching first GM and with Bailey there as the pitching coach I think their outlook pitching wise is great.
Values are off on the Mets deal, and I think the White Sox would also require a pitcher like Tong or Tidwell included in that package to make it jive. The inclusion of Gilbert makes it interesting because he would likely be a starting OF for the Mets right out of spring training. His absence in CF makes you wonder if the Mets would move Nimmo back to CF.
Dodgers can trade lux , prospect catcher like hunter feducia for corchet. They might throw in gosling and ask for a prospect Back
The Red Sox definitely have the best package.
As a Braves fan, it looks like to me, the Red Sox have the best offer.
Boston
CROCHET would look great in a METS' uniform. Give a package that includes BRET BATY and GILBERT.
If you guys can get him without Baty, then use Baty along with cash consideration, you guys can bring in second but name, there will be many this season, and Toronto might even trade Vladdy or Bichette.
agree
He is TJ waiting to happen. Never pitched 100 inns. No from Dodgers...they already asked for Dalton Rushing and not getting him. Enjoy Mets, Phillies, Red Sox. Cohen the moron likes stupid signings...
@@TheTruthSeekerDocRBHe’s already had TJ. 🤔
@@jamescoogan4167 was kind of the point...TJ #2. His mechanics suck and with pitch clock, ticking time bomb
Redox need pitching period they could very quickly be contenders if the can tighten up the mound...the need to go after t Bauer as well he's willing to play for league minimum..no brainer he paid his debt...
It has nothing to do with him paying his debt... In the eyes of many. He didn't really do anything... It's just the things that he's into Major league teams. Don't want to touch
Like the trade for the Mets instead of someone like Snell, but try the Vlad trade before this to trade maybe Gilbert
100% Approve as a Mets fan in case I wasn’t clear. Would even sweeten the pot with Kevin Parada or Ryan Clifford, Sell McNeal as a former batting champ even.
We missed out on the Sale, Giolito, Cease Whitesox implosion tours. I’d be all over this one.
Wow the price on Crochet must have come down quite a bit. Most of these "high" prospects aren't even in the top 60 prospects in MLB. Most are slotted from #70 and beyond. Last summer at the deadline the White Sox wanted top 25 prospect talent in all of MLB. I guess now they are willing to accept quantity.
The White Sox want position players 13:49 only... If it's one for three or one for four... The Red Sox clearly have the best package... I would hate to give up a first-year Gold. Glover that has an excellent arm and we don't even know Abreu s offensive potential yet... But in the Red Sox's case Crochet would be the number one and you have to give something to get something... I would also switch Bello w Kutter in the rotation... Jim, what is your favorite out of the four?
I think the Dodgers trade could be altered to include Gavin Lux if the White Sox are interested or even in flipping him.
I agree only if the dodgers get another outfielder if they plan on moving mookie to 2nd
@KCurtis87 I think they will be fine with Teoscar in RF and Pages/Rushing platoon and Edman in CF and they should have money to sign Adames to play everyday SS next to his buddy Mookie at 2B
@@infiniteethernal That would work also. Having Edman makes it so you can go for an outfielder or ss.
@@KCurtis87 actually good utility players are so cool to have on your team
I’d do that as a Phillies fan 👍
Replace Tait with Crawford. Catcher succeeeding Realmuto in a couple of
F years.
Crochet going to the Red Sox just gives me Chris Sale vibes.
My point exactly
Crochet goes to the Reds for Collier, Arroyo, Marte, and maybe even Diaz (or perhaps the Reds will trade Diaz to the Mets for Baty and include him in the deal if necessary).
i mean you said yesterday the redsox didnt have a "Need" for a left ace in max fried lbut now they do? (I know they do, just didnt get the comment yesterday)
They will trade for Crochett and sign Fried... Crochett, Houck, Fried, Bello and Giolito
As a SOX fan, I hope that we can get “value” for our ace - not ripped off! We are not the trash bin! And forget dealing with the Dodgers.
If the Mets do this trade, it would be amazing, but I would switch Mauricio for Baty and add McNeil.. Baty is basically blocked from any position. McNeil is now expendable since the Mets are high on Acuna and Mauricio.
I never like giving up Gilbert in proposed trades, but I'd do that trade from a Mets standpoint.
What about sending other Muncy or CT3 to Chicago? JS, but either way I like your option due to the fact that we still keep Diego Cartaya.
From a Mets prospective, offer Baty, Acuna, Mauricio, Clifford for Crochet.
The Dodgers want to have a six-man rotation next year. That is why Crochet would work as the fourth starter for the Dodgers. Will it happen? Who knows.
What if the White Sox want a pitcher back, and want 4 or 5 guys total? How do we know that they won't start off with really high demands, like asking the Red Sox for two of their big four? That might result in some short negotiations.
You did not mention Painter as being in the rotation.
Gerrit Crochet to the Cubs for Kevin Alcantra and Cam Smith.
Mets fan here: I am not sold on Crochet but I feel like you can replace Gilbert/Mauricio with Baty. I love all our prospects though so I will be sad no matter the trade.
As a Mets Fan, this is a great trade for Mets. Don't see Chicago accepting the offer though. Gilbert has struggled and Mauricio has been out all year. Still hasn't resumed baseball activities. Replace Mauricio with Acuna and Chicago will probably accept. Rather use Baty than Acuna in the package.
As a med fan I want to keep Ronny Mauricio. In his place put baty or McNeil.
yea i’m keeping mauricio.
As a Mets fan, I'd tell CHW to pick ANY 3 non-pitcher prospects: Acuna, Baty, Williams, Mauricio or Gilbert. ANY.
Those dodgers prospects plus Gavin, if not included in a future trade, should do the trick. With a six man rotation coming, not taxing the starters and relievers would be a premium necessity. Then signing your pick of Beuhler &/or Flaherty and your pitching is just about set. And if Adames is attainable, well then, Dodgers are set. Plus Roki S. wanting to come here!?! Oh! My! Goodness! MLB, man your Battle Stations!!! Don C.
That was a huge fumble at the trade deadline from the Crochet camp. He could have won a WS. Dodgers got so many options this off season. I think Phillies getting Crochet and Robert would be a nice fit
As a phillies fan I feel like they will definitely want more for him. They’ll ask about Aidan Miller and i’m surprised if a crochet trade doesn’t include Justin Crawford.
If the Mets can pull that off… OMG!!!!
Baltimore is the team that needs him and has real prospects to trade.
As an O’s fan, I don’t want him. He’s under an innings limit and wants a long term extension. He’s injury prone too.
@@TalkingSports-k7cYou do realize he didn’t miss a start this season.
@@TalkingSports-k7c He's no longer limited and pitched quite a few innings this year for a first year starter. Crochet is the goods just like Cease. The Sox are great at developing pitchers.
I'm a Met fan but as a baseball fan I feel a fair trade for Crochet should be Jet William over Gilbert. I prefer to give up Gilbert over Williams but I have to be honest as a baseball fan.
Baty, Mauricio, Baez because as a Mets fan we see Gilbert apart of our future OF
As a Red Sox fan I don't want G Crochet he's had 1 good year and Tommy John he simply is not proven enough.
How about as you're number three if we sign Max Fried.
1 Fried
2 Houck
3 Crochet
4 Giolito
5 Crawford/Bello
As a Red Sox fan, okay 👍 👌 🙆♀️
Hi, when we are going to see Heat up trade market ? I'm sleeping
Hibernate more
You should have added Gavin Lux in the Dodgers trade.
Do we really think that MLB front office guys actually use Baseball Trade Values ratings when they pitch a trade? I doubt it. I think they ask for what they want, often start high, and try to come to an arrangement.
im prob willing to let go of baty and keep mauricio not sure if that would work but thats what i would prefer. im not as high on acuna at 2b as u are just yet.
I'd rather flip Baty for Gilbert if possible.
As the die hard Mets fan I am I like this trade
Dodger fan here. I approve this trade 👍🏼
Hell nooo, Phillies ain't giving up Rojas in that trade. Ain't no way. I think they'll be in the talk about gettin Crochet, just not giving up Rojas.
Die Hard (& Educated) Mets Fan. If they’d take Gilbert Mauricio & Baez, I’d offer to drive and pick up. Gilbert has a high ceiling. Mauricio was my favorite of the 4 headed 3b monster of 2023. Baez has potential as well. I can’t see them not asking for Jett Williams and 2 of top 7. The issue that creates is the 24 Mets played the bottom of the inning very well. If they sign the 2 bats I am hoping they do, (🐻❄️& #22 Han Solo.) We will essentially have 3 LF’s in the starting lineup. That is until Jet or Gilbert, who profiles more as a RF or Maybe Acuna or Alexi Ramirez are ready to play CF every day. Solution would be to bring back Bader and rotate the DH with the outfielders who need rest.
I’d make that deal & still try to Sign Manea or Sevy. Then still try to bring De🐐 back home. (I know I said educated but a boy can dream.)
In a rotation that has Senga Crochet, Peterson & Manea, we won’t have to ask the prodigal son for 180 innings.
Love Your Insights and enjoy your show. Thank You #LFGM.
Red Sox is 10 to 20 prospects would be like most teams top five
As long as mets keep sproat, mauricio, Jett, and Benji. Go get him. I like Acuna but he might be at his highest value now
With the Mets flirting with middle infielders it certainly looks like they are willing to trade some of their infield prospects
Crochett will be the ace in Boston, the trade is all but done and sealed...
I’m hoping Chris Getz doesn’t screw up this trade. I thought the white Sox did well with the Dylan Cease trade. Chris Getz failed on the Eric Fedde trade. So I guess we will see.
I give those guys up if I'm the mets. We have way to many infielders.
Sounds good they need pitching!
Sox fan and as the trade itself goes, totally fine for Crochet. But I don't really want him as far as injury concerns go. Wants too much money and has been too injured for a guy who's only started for one season
Phillies ❤
Mets fan here. Do it
I don't see the Sox letting Crochet go for less than at least one top prospect in a deal, or a good major league player
No not Rojas but you can add marsh
The Mets need to add a little more. I think they are able to.
I don't like the Mets package you put together. Wouldn't want to let Mauricio go. I'm sure Stearns will put together a good package if this trade is possible.
The Mets could definitely get it done without Gilbert that’s a bit much
METS: Depends on WHO they want and who the players are... NO to Acuna, Jett, and Gilbert. Willing to give them Brett Baty, Mauricio, Boston Baro (SS @ #16 prospect on the farm), and Nick Morabito (outfielder @ #19 on the farm). Throwing in Baty as an extra incentive. 😂
Baty Insteasd of Gilbert or NO DEAL !
Braves fan here: I hope braves don't try to go after him. His arm slot and motions scares me. That being said, I hope mets get him. Lol
Won't the WS want a significant overpay for a SP?
Dodgers give Lux, Outman, and Cartiga
Phillies Absolutely Done Deal.
I would rather give up Crawford than Tait seeing Realmutos less anticipated playing time because of age. Tait is so young but I can see him as a long term successor to Realmuto.
hard to see dodgers moving off KGeorge right away. don't think they'd do that
Phillies fan: I’d do it but Chicago probably asks for more
You know for a fact ATL should be on here… IYKYK
When most other fans are saying yes, that’s how you know you the white Sox are getting fleeced lmao
Sasaki too
Dodgers will get Sasaki and will have no reason to give up their prospects
I think he goes to the Mets centered around Gilbert or Jett Williams
phillies is best trade
not giving up Mauricio no way
I would rather see the sox give up Cedane Rafealla than Arias
Dodgers do need a lefty starter
Dodgers r probably gonna get Roki Sasaki in a few years
While the trade for the Red Sox looks good, I can't see a world where the White Sox don't get one of the top 4 in the Red Sox system
I wouldn't trade Gilbert. Mauricio go ahead and send him that way.
Hopefully he goes to boston
I wouldn't do this if I'm the Mets
As a Mets fan, I don't like it. Don't want to give away Mauricio
As a mets fan I rather Castillo