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My Contribution to the Destruction of a Wolseley Sun Helmet

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
  • When I purchased a 1942 Wolseley Sun Helmet, I never thought I'd be a creator of its destruction. The infamous pattern of pith helmet was deemed a restricted item by the British post, the apparent reason...it was illegal under arms control. It being restricted, it could potentially be destroyed, so here's the story of how I tried to save the WWII curio.
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Комментарии • 102

  • @ChristheRedcoat
    @ChristheRedcoat 3 года назад +58

    Someone contact the SPCOH (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Old Helmets)

  • @wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495
    @wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495 3 года назад +29

    The thought of someone destroying historical relics makes me almost faint

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +3

      I know, it’s absolutely disgusting, and all for the dumbest reason. I hope some find it in some bin and is like “score”.

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 2 года назад +1

      it makes me want to conduct a minor police action on ebay global shipping headquarters.

  • @maxwellclark6992
    @maxwellclark6992 3 года назад +26

    How a cloth helmet is a weapon of war I will never know
    I am sorry for your loss Jonathan

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +3

      You and me both old boy, you and me both. Thank you for your condolences 😂

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 2 года назад

      not just his loss. the world loss.

  • @fedxalm7987
    @fedxalm7987 3 года назад +13

    Omg you just blue balled all of us with that unboxing!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +5

      I do apologize, your distress will be forwarded onto the complaint department.

    • @fedxalm7987
      @fedxalm7987 3 года назад +3

      @@TheFarOffStation
      Ahahahahah

  • @5.7moy
    @5.7moy 3 года назад +10

    “Oh my god it’s military! Oh my god it’s illegal!” -Jonathan

  • @AdventureUntamed23
    @AdventureUntamed23 2 года назад +5

    I watched this video last year and decried the insanity, and it JUST happened to me today, too!
    I just received the same ridiculous email about the Prohibited War Material. What a senseless loss!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад +1

      Oh bloody hell mate, I’m so sorry yo hear this. What bloody thing did they decide to take this time?

    • @AdventureUntamed23
      @AdventureUntamed23 2 года назад +2

      @@TheFarOffStation Royal Marine Wolsley. Sent to the Legendary Graveyard of Pith Helmets by Ebay :/

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад +2

      @@AdventureUntamed23 I don’t what the hell is going on at eBay, but somethings dodgey. I think I’m going to make a beware video, because this also happened to another mate of mine, with a Wolseley as well. This is just damn ridiculous.

    • @AdventureUntamed23
      @AdventureUntamed23 2 года назад +1

      @@TheFarOffStation That sounds like a fine idea! Maybe if the sellers can be convinced to ship via their own methods, rather than eBay's preferred way, we can stave off any more of these tragedies. PS, Thanks for the puggaree styling video. Came in quite handy with a number of hats and helmets. Cheers!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад +1

      @@AdventureUntamed23 I definitely think it might. I know with my KSPH, the sellers was going to ship it eBay GSP, and I asked him to just send it Royal Mail, and it safely arrived. I agree, it’s the best way.
      So glad to hear the puggaree video came in handy!

  • @thehistoadian
    @thehistoadian 3 года назад +9

    Well that sucks, atleast you were still able to get another helmet though!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +4

      Yes, and the one I got is actually a nicer one, so I suppose at the end of the day it had a happy ending!

  • @spartan1701
    @spartan1701 3 года назад +12

    Ran into itar many times. But never had anything get intercepted or destroyed. It really come down to how it’s labeled. Shame.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +1

      It is indeed. Such a simple mistake for such drastic potential consequences, all someone had to do was inspect the box, I suppose that would take too much effort...

  • @Sonofanirsrebel
    @Sonofanirsrebel 3 года назад +3

    ITAR does specify some things against body armor, but it specifies specific grades of modern body armor, so even with that, an 80 year old helmet which is only as effective as a bike helmet shouldn't be restricted

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +1

      The more we’ve looked into it, it really seem like it’s some bullshit that eBay pulls through its GSP. The motive though, is quite unclear.

  • @maxwellclark6992
    @maxwellclark6992 3 года назад +9

    Soooo, you’re saying I can’t import a fully operational T-72
    Ah shit

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +2

      The government, always finding a way to be disappointing.

  • @snapperxv
    @snapperxv 2 года назад +2

    Know a friend who had the same with a near complete set of GW dated '08 webbing (including helve holder).

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад +2

      Ugh, that’s rubbish, mate. It’s just unacceptable that things like this should occur with regularity. Sorry for his loss…..

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 года назад +13

    Well, this is a weird confession, but I guess we can be lenient and just go with life imprisonment

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +3

      No mate, just execute me, it's what I deserve.

    • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
      @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 года назад +4

      @@TheFarOffStation You heard him firing squad, make sure that he has no historical items before you fire.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад

      My hero

    • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
      @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 года назад

      @@TheFarOffStation Academia?

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад

      @@CivilWarWeekByWeek nope, just the people who execute me for sacrilege

  • @winstonstone
    @winstonstone 3 года назад +6

    I AM DYING HERE, STOP!! LOL!!!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +1

      And they said arms control was supposed to SAVE lives, look what it's done

  • @Comma_Man64
    @Comma_Man64 3 года назад +7

    8:50 So you're saying I can't buy a Mk III Torpedo Data Computer off Ebay?

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +2

      Well, apparently from this experience, as long as it doesn't say it on the manifest, you can get anything because they won't check!

    • @Comma_Man64
      @Comma_Man64 3 года назад

      @@TheFarOffStation Right, I'll just claim it's a smart fridge...........

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +1

      @@Comma_Man64 even if they X-Ray it, they'll see wires and be like "seems legit"

  • @geertbus4644
    @geertbus4644 3 года назад +6

    What a strange reason, oke flagged military shouldn´t form a problem since so many civilian clothing items are tagged military.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +1

      Exactly, it makes no sense. No matter how good the argument is, and how wrong it was to flag it, they just kept talking themselves in circles...

    • @geertbus4644
      @geertbus4644 3 года назад +3

      I aslo collect militaria and reenactment related stuff from ebay but never run into this problem. Oh andi saw your british soldier impression on FB and it rocks ) but never run into this problem?? Is there really nothing you can do to get the helmet back??

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад

      Count yourself lucky for never running into this, it's ridiculous. Which impression did you see? I'm getting to the point where I can't even keep track 😂 I'm not entirely sure how much more there is I can do, every interaction is them saying they can't do anything whilst I provide info to what they say. Perhaps there's more I could do, but there so hell bent on not helping, that it's just too straining. I bet it'll get opened buy some agent, see nothings illegal, and someone will love their new free helmet.

  • @ulysses2921
    @ulysses2921 3 года назад +3

    I... I think I’m going to feint.

  • @congaudeant
    @congaudeant 3 года назад +5

    The absolute state of Bongland

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 2 года назад +2

    Rip not having a loicense for that helmet

  • @AntPDC
    @AntPDC Год назад

    Thank you. Mind my asking what the piece of music is, starting at 00:24?

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад

      The song is a stock music track titled “Memorial”, you can find it here: ruclips.net/video/4Ab--qEv62g/видео.html

    • @AntPDC
      @AntPDC Год назад

      @@TheFarOffStation Thank you.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад

      @@AntPDC you’re welcome!

  • @tomthebeast1872
    @tomthebeast1872 2 года назад +1

    The sad thing is the helmet might’ve been the seller’s ancestors’ helmet.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад +2

      In this instance it luckily wasn’t, so that’s at least a mighty fine good thing!

  • @DE-to4sd
    @DE-to4sd 3 года назад +4

    That story was a ride and a half! Least you got a lil story out of it and a different helmet.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +1

      Wasn't it! I can fairly say, I'd prefer to not go on this kind of ride again! You're one hundred percent right, at least I got a good story out of it, sometimes, that's what life is, a good story to tell!

  • @arthurwellesley1815
    @arthurwellesley1815 2 года назад +2

    We've provided all options
    What options they just took the helmet gave you youre money back the original owner was hopfully refunded too but instead of making 2 people happy ebay made them angry and destroyed a beatiful historical piece of hat wear

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад

      Yep, that’s exactly what happened. I’ve later found out they do this all the time too.

  • @dontevenbother6090
    @dontevenbother6090 2 года назад +2

    I feel like you would make a good lawyer

  • @lennonhookway
    @lennonhookway 3 года назад +3

    As a follow reenactor and historian like yourself, I know how you feel. I am sorry 😞

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +2

      Thanks, mate, it’s quite sad, that’s the unfortunate way of the world sometimes...you can’t win them all 😢

    • @lennonhookway
      @lennonhookway 3 года назад +1

      I 100% agree and I love your channel a lot a usefull tips

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад

      @@lennonhookway glad to hear you’re liking it and it’s providing you useful tips! More content planned!

  • @Bountyhopper
    @Bountyhopper Год назад

    I mean this has to be grounds to sue for the seller, has he lost the product and the money for a violation that wasn’t committed

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад

      Apparently they refunded the seller, but they did keep the helmet.

    • @Bountyhopper
      @Bountyhopper Год назад

      @@TheFarOffStation still, it has to be a mutually agreed transaction, I can’t just hot wire a car and leave a stack of money in the parking spot

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад

      @@Bountyhopper yeah well, not the way eBay sees it, if though nothing against the law happened. It’s dumb as hell.

  • @brickproduction1815
    @brickproduction1815 3 года назад +2

    Wait did you buy a repro?

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад

      That would be a spoiler of the next video, but I think I shall indulge you non the less! It is not a repro, it is an original as well!

    • @brickproduction1815
      @brickproduction1815 3 года назад

      @@TheFarOffStation why not just buy repros? They are cheaper and also not prone to such dilemmas

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +2

      There are a few reasons, firstly there's never usually dilemmas like this, things generally go pretty smooth, secondly, if I can afford to buy original items to collect, I jump on the opportunity, as much as I like to reenact, I've very much been enjoying getting in collecting on the small level in which I have. Form wise, the repros are a wee bit off in places, they seem a little more boaty than originals, despite them being off in certain regards, I don't think they're that bad. In the future I do plan on getting a repro for if I should use my Wolseley topped kits for any sort of more strenuous use, for lighter use, I have no problem with the originals. Also, the repros usually come with no puggarees which makes life an absolute pain, because in military service they always had a puggaree.

    • @johns.matty.632
      @johns.matty.632 2 года назад

      I totally agree with your point and feelings. Thanks for the information and sorry for the idiotic bureaucracy….

  • @jeffjag2691
    @jeffjag2691 Год назад

    Says “helmet”, this probably falls under many places “body armor” restrictions.

  • @Here4Years
    @Here4Years Год назад +2

    Jonathan, what's it like being an international arms dealer? Just curious. 😉

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад +1

      You know, doesn’t make as much coin as I expected.

    • @Here4Years
      @Here4Years Год назад +2

      @@TheFarOffStation Congratulations on hitting 4000+ subscribers!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад +1

      @@Here4Years thanks mate!!

  • @Silkendrum
    @Silkendrum Год назад

    "Protective personal equipment" was on the banned list. A helmet fits the description.

  • @thurin84
    @thurin84 2 года назад +1

    what the actual frak????? this is insane!!! this stinks of some petty bureaucrat throwing their weight around combined with ignorance as to what a sun helmet is as opposed to a battle helmet. what utter BS!!!

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  2 года назад +2

      It’s completely bonkers, mate, completely bonkers.

  • @tomsoki5738
    @tomsoki5738 3 года назад +1

    It is a military helmet, and as such is PPE. I’m afraid they are well in their rights to do this. And by the way this is entirely the fault of the US I’m British and I order actual military items, reloading equipment, body armour, ballistic helmets, firearm related items from mainland Europe and they are marked as military but they always get through, sometimes I have to talk with customs agents but there is never a problem

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  3 года назад +2

      The issue stems from eBay, not a government entity, as if it were, a talk with customs would easily have been in order. Even so, it does not matter, helmets do not fall under ITAR, so the point is mute. The US has nothing to do with it, because it never reached an entity of the country.

  • @johan13135
    @johan13135 Год назад

    I mean, it's not a helmet, it's a hat that's sometimes called a helmet. This carousel of nonsense is only happening due to somebody, or even just a program, seeing the word "helmet" in a military context and immedicable flag it as needing an arms export requirement. You could call them up on this or send a lawyer if it's really valuable

  • @nightwing1409
    @nightwing1409 11 месяцев назад +1

    That is what happens when you allow the crazies to take over. The political correctness of the UK would drive me to madness.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  7 месяцев назад

      I believe it has more to do with liability culture.

  • @arifeliciano1275
    @arifeliciano1275 Год назад

    Check your own video. Min 8:49 you state that ITAR includes PPE, personal protection equipment. A military helmet fits that description. So, yes! your helmet violates ITAR. Nextime: Souvenir helmet.

    • @TheFarOffStation
      @TheFarOffStation  Год назад +1

      The customs declaration makes no mention, so like no. But it’s all mute because the government didn’t make the decision, a private company did. Try again.