I think people that keep saying this printer is a gimmick just misses the point of this printer. Its goal is to be a portable printer with reasonable build volume, thus the upside down design and everything. It's a really niche product for specific types of ppl, imo this printer is perfect for digital nomad, people that travels around a lot, working around the world, a 3d printer that fits inside a filament box sounds fantastic. I've been following this project from the start, so glad LDO is making kit for it.
@@catnipaddict126 Not sure if you're joking, but if trinkets and non-functional parts are the only things you print then yeah. This printer's niche is not for you.
@@catnipaddict126 there's plenty of functional parts you can do with PLA and PETG. And if you bring an enclosure, you should be able to print ABS/ASA, it has the capability.
@@nomadsgalaxy there's always the old standby... Garbage bag enclosure, You could probably build something compact, fancy, and folding if you really wanted to though.
Thank you to everyone who's watched! We are excited to finally bring this to market. We arent disillusioned by our own design - and we understand that this isnt for everyone, and it isn't in everyone's price range. If you want a good printer that can do 180³ build volume, get a Prusa Mini. They're amazing. But if you want portability, we designed this for you 🙃
People are commenting on the price, but between the custom mainboard, custom metal parts and custom case I'm surprised its only $700 on preorder. It's a niche printer. If portability is not a killer feature for you then get something else. I don't have a need for it and I still think its awesome. Looking forward to the build!
100% - we wanted to aim for the price range of a Voron V0, so our margins are super thin, but LDO and I believe that the price is fair for all the RnD we put into it. Even I still tell people to get a Prusa or a Voron, but if portability is your goal, then this is the best kit for it.
Been following this project since the first time it was shown, eagerly awaiting my kit. Mostly because it's cool and unique. Trying to decide on the colors for my printed parts!
People who complain about the price and limited capabilities probably also think that laptops make no sense, because there are desktop PC - which are much cheaper and more powerful.
If I see it a MRRF I'll look at picking one up just for the build. I am a bit disappointed though. As it was pointed out the case is larger for the additional options BUT.. its a large case, not excessively large but still large. I find a bit of irony in that the printers claim to fame is that it fits in a filament box.. but now we have a larger box and it hasnt got the capacity for a single roll of filament additionally :/
So this is intentional - the case is designed for airport travel, so the unit can survive being carry on or checked baggage. As such, we couldn't make space for Filament, mainly because the TSA has informed us that Filament looks like Det Cord, so we encourage people to ensure that their filament is packed separately. Otherwise, it still fits inside a filament box. So that is still an option 🙂
@@HReality of course! I'm happy to answer any questions. To be clear - our team knows the price is up there, we know it's niche, but it was a passion project, and we're just excited to bring this to people who this truly works for. 😊
The LDO kit seems extremely nice, but out of my price range. I'm eagerly waiting for the next release of Positron LT so I can go at it a little more piecemeal.
@@UloPe Yes, it is possible, but LDO really wanted to go with a full clear glass bed for aesthetics. Getting a sheet of PEI is pretty easy to apply though.
@@thijstriemstra Such as? We highlighted changes from V3 to V3.2 in the first quarter of the video. We were honest in saying we needed additional cooling, honest in saying that the IR isn't the most reliable, would you prefer we be dishonest? And tell you we've had no problems at all? If there's something we said wrong, I'd appreciate the feedback so we can improve.
I work construction and am on the road a lot. 3d printing has been my hobby for several years at this point and when I saw the video for positron v1 I fell in love. I have been waiting so long for it to be viable and at one point has given up hope. I recently started building a 0.2 because lugging around my ender is a hassle and because... Voron. Can't wait to build a positron! I do got to say that that guy sure doesn't sound like Kraylin though he has apparently been designing positron for years. Whatevs. This machine isn't the best fit for everyone, but it absolutely is for me, and damn if it isn't cool!
Kralyn and I have worked very closely together, he had to step away due to other obligations, and has made me the CEO/Project Lead of The Positron Project. We still work with Kralyn, and he is very proud of where we've been able to bring the project :) We hope this fits your needs!
Funny how it comes in a bigger box than what it can fit in. I wonder how possible it would be to come preassemled and if the lower shipping costs would match the price of paying a line to assemble them.
I'm eagerly awaiting the right time for me to push the button and buy this printer. Will it be the ldo kit or a different branch, like the new lemontron! Thank you for sharing this so i can learn more and make the best choice for me and my van.
We tried keeping the price to that of a V0, there was a ton of RnD that went into this design, and a ton of custom parts. As RnD costs are recouped, I assure you we will be able to bring the cost down.
I still don't get why people care about this thing. It just seems like a random collection of gimmicks. It prints upside down! It can fit in a filament box! OK ... but, why?
what the fuck 850 bucks is a bit overpriced I think... I thought it would be a cool project to build one, but that is way over the budget for a small project like that... its not like its a super good printer I would use a lot... its more like a gimmick, to take somewhere sometimes to show ppl how cool 3D printing is
I mean, the design is open source, if you think you can make/sell kits cheaper go for it. But keep in mind it IS a niche product with many custom components and a low volume production run, when it comes to price, it is what it is.
We tried our best to match the price of a V0, there was a lot of RnD that was put into it, and a lot of custom components, as such, costs have to be recouped. The price will eventually go down in time, but if you think back to the first Laptop ever made, it was gimmicky and overpriced, but it was the start of something new.
I think people that keep saying this printer is a gimmick just misses the point of this printer. Its goal is to be a portable printer with reasonable build volume, thus the upside down design and everything. It's a really niche product for specific types of ppl, imo this printer is perfect for digital nomad, people that travels around a lot, working around the world, a 3d printer that fits inside a filament box sounds fantastic. I've been following this project from the start, so glad LDO is making kit for it.
Portable printer for people who print trinkets and nth functional.
@@catnipaddict126 Not sure if you're joking, but if trinkets and non-functional parts are the only things you print then yeah. This printer's niche is not for you.
@@catnipaddict126 there's plenty of functional parts you can do with PLA and PETG. And if you bring an enclosure, you should be able to print ABS/ASA, it has the capability.
@@nomadsgalaxy there's always the old standby... Garbage bag enclosure, You could probably build something compact, fancy, and folding if you really wanted to though.
Thank you to everyone who's watched!
We are excited to finally bring this to market.
We arent disillusioned by our own design - and we understand that this isnt for everyone, and it isn't in everyone's price range.
If you want a good printer that can do 180³ build volume, get a Prusa Mini. They're amazing. But if you want portability, we designed this for you 🙃
People are commenting on the price, but between the custom mainboard, custom metal parts and custom case I'm surprised its only $700 on preorder. It's a niche printer. If portability is not a killer feature for you then get something else. I don't have a need for it and I still think its awesome. Looking forward to the build!
100% - we wanted to aim for the price range of a Voron V0, so our margins are super thin, but LDO and I believe that the price is fair for all the RnD we put into it.
Even I still tell people to get a Prusa or a Voron, but if portability is your goal, then this is the best kit for it.
2 Great 3D printing streamers together, awesome.
Been following this project since the first time it was shown, eagerly awaiting my kit. Mostly because it's cool and unique. Trying to decide on the colors for my printed parts!
People who complain about the price and limited capabilities probably also think that laptops make no sense, because there are desktop PC - which are much cheaper and more powerful.
If I see it a MRRF I'll look at picking one up just for the build. I am a bit disappointed though. As it was pointed out the case is larger for the additional options BUT.. its a large case, not excessively large but still large. I find a bit of irony in that the printers claim to fame is that it fits in a filament box.. but now we have a larger box and it hasnt got the capacity for a single roll of filament additionally :/
So this is intentional - the case is designed for airport travel, so the unit can survive being carry on or checked baggage.
As such, we couldn't make space for Filament, mainly because the TSA has informed us that Filament looks like Det Cord, so we encourage people to ensure that their filament is packed separately.
Otherwise, it still fits inside a filament box. So that is still an option 🙂
@@nomadsgalaxy greatly appreciate the explanation and detail. Thanks for taking the time and responding :)
@@HReality of course! I'm happy to answer any questions.
To be clear - our team knows the price is up there, we know it's niche, but it was a passion project, and we're just excited to bring this to people who this truly works for. 😊
Great vid, two of my favourite creators building an interesting printer. Roll on Tuesday
Can't wait to see this build!
The Printer is really nice but would I would buy this for 300-400€. 850€ is toooooo expensive
The LDO kit seems extremely nice, but out of my price range. I'm eagerly waiting for the next release of Positron LT so I can go at it a little more piecemeal.
I’m really itching to get one, but OTOH I’m quite sure I don’t want a glass print bed ever again…
We're experimenting with a PCB bed, stay tuned 🙃
@@nomadsgalaxyhave you investigated if it’s possible to coat the glass with PEI?
@@UloPe Yes, it is possible, but LDO really wanted to go with a full clear glass bed for aesthetics.
Getting a sheet of PEI is pretty easy to apply though.
this thing is an accumulation of mistakes. the person in video keeps pointing these out. hard pass.
@@thijstriemstra Such as?
We highlighted changes from V3 to V3.2 in the first quarter of the video.
We were honest in saying we needed additional cooling, honest in saying that the IR isn't the most reliable, would you prefer we be dishonest? And tell you we've had no problems at all?
If there's something we said wrong, I'd appreciate the feedback so we can improve.
I work construction and am on the road a lot. 3d printing has been my hobby for several years at this point and when I saw the video for positron v1 I fell in love. I have been waiting so long for it to be viable and at one point has given up hope. I recently started building a 0.2 because lugging around my ender is a hassle and because... Voron. Can't wait to build a positron! I do got to say that that guy sure doesn't sound like Kraylin though he has apparently been designing positron for years. Whatevs. This machine isn't the best fit for everyone, but it absolutely is for me, and damn if it isn't cool!
Kralyn and I have worked very closely together, he had to step away due to other obligations, and has made me the CEO/Project Lead of The Positron Project.
We still work with Kralyn, and he is very proud of where we've been able to bring the project :)
We hope this fits your needs!
but... It is Thrusday
Funny how it comes in a bigger box than what it can fit in. I wonder how possible it would be to come preassemled and if the lower shipping costs would match the price of paying a line to assemble them.
Kit is a way to keep the costs down. You cant save that much shipping cost to make Up for it unless you have a big Markup.
We are thinking of producing pre-assembled kits sometime in the future, because the assembly is actually pretty straightforward.
ITS HERE!!!!
I'm eagerly awaiting the right time for me to push the button and buy this printer. Will it be the ldo kit or a different branch, like the new lemontron! Thank you for sharing this so i can learn more and make the best choice for me and my van.
You lost me at upside down. What a weird idea.
🙃 just a result of portability
$700? Yikes. Not sure this is worth that kind of money. Upside down, cool, but $$$$.
There's 0 possibility I would even consider paying $700 for this 🤣🤣
The case alone is probably $100 or more.
We tried keeping the price to that of a V0, there was a ton of RnD that went into this design, and a ton of custom parts.
As RnD costs are recouped, I assure you we will be able to bring the cost down.
third
rpi cm4..?! next.
What's is this comment even supposed to mean
I still don't get why people care about this thing. It just seems like a random collection of gimmicks. It prints upside down! It can fit in a filament box! OK ... but, why?
why not
Sometimes when you work abroad and you need a part to fix an issue you wish if you have your printer with you so that solves an issue for me
Would be nice to have in your Van
it's fun to watch it melt plastic
We wanted to make it ultra portable, that's why. It just so happens to print upside down as a result.
what the fuck 850 bucks is a bit overpriced I think... I thought it would be a cool project to build one, but that is way over the budget for a small project like that... its not like its a super good printer I would use a lot... its more like a gimmick, to take somewhere sometimes to show ppl how cool 3D printing is
I mean, the design is open source, if you think you can make/sell kits cheaper go for it.
But keep in mind it IS a niche product with many custom components and a low volume production run, when it comes to price, it is what it is.
We tried our best to match the price of a V0, there was a lot of RnD that was put into it, and a lot of custom components, as such, costs have to be recouped. The price will eventually go down in time, but if you think back to the first Laptop ever made, it was gimmicky and overpriced, but it was the start of something new.