dream team is one of the most underrated mario games to be made. like exploring luigi’s dreams are super cool especially when you find out that luigi wants to be just like his brother and help him. really love dream team!
Couldn’t agree more, it’s the most unique Mario game ever and I honestly don’t understand how it’s not considered the best and superstar saga is. No offence to superstar saga or people who like it but imo i don’t think it was as good as dream team in any way
Plus, the world that is present to us is easily the most visually interesting and unique world out of this entries. Is way better than the world map of Bowser Inside Story, which is good but didn't have too much unique areas.
No clue why people dislike dream team that much. I would argue that it’s probably the mario and luigi game with the most new content. Story wise is not on a bowser inside story level but besides the first two bros moves in the overworld every other move is also unique and new. So was the artstyle at it’s time as well as all the dream world stuff, the game didn’t feel too easy, i actually think it’s one of the best balanced mario & luigi game having died to some bosses myself, the tutorial is definitely the biggest flaw but besides that me being a partners in time simp i would definitely say that dream team is a proper rpg that’s less repetitive gameplay wise then partners in time.
Yea tbh i think dream team could be most easily improved game in the series just by getting rid of some lenghty tutorials or dialogue scenes. I really loved everything else about it, i think the dream world is better than bowsers inside, the music is amazing, battles and bosses are fun etc. Weirdly enough dream team would be the most fitting to a remake; i don’t think partners in time’s issues can be solved as easily at all (though it would greatly benefit from a visual upgrade imo)
I actually enjoyed it my second time playing through it more than my first time. I love it but I wish it had more side quests and extra content. There were no real mini games or extra bosses.
Yep. It's still on the harder side even after replaying and the music is just so good. Whether you're roaming around the outside locations, exploring the world buildings, or just relaxing at the castle, the music is perfect and just fills you with good vibes and feelings. The fight themes are also very good. Also the game is funny as hell, heartwarming, and filled with tense moments all at the same time.
5) Paper Jam 4) Partners in time 3) Bowser's inside story 2) Superstar saga 1) Dream team Sorry, i just played DT last week and it's ab absolutely awesome game, still don't know why is it so hated
Fun fact:Mario and Luigi from partners in time are not the same as the Mario and Luigi from bowsers inside story they were the baby versions of themselves as revealed in Bowser’s inside story Mario and Luigi go to bowser’s castle and see frozen shroobs and Mario tells starlow about how him and Luigi fought those alien creatures as babies
I suppose that would mean there is 2 separate timelines. One where Mario & Luigi fought the Shroobs as adults, and one where they fought them as babies. The only exception would be if the Mario Bros actually fight the shroobs twice in their life, once as babies, and once as adults. The weird part is though, is the Bros traveled back in time to fight the shroobs, would that imply that it already happened? I find it hard to believe that they did fight them twice due to plot armour. I think you're correct then, that there are 2 timelines in which M&L fought the shroobs as babies, and in their same lifetime don't fight them again as adults (at least until BiS) and the other being M&L fight the shroobs exclusively as adults in PiT.
At least it'd different than literally everyone else's rankings, like we get it, paper jam is ass, we get it dream team is mid, we get it, partners in time has capitalism instead of syrup, WE GET IT. But superstar saga clears partners in time
My list is similar two and 3 are switched for me otherwise it’s the same so it’s a pretty agreeable list and I also prefer superstar saga remake too as it’s the one I played more
it's a good game, then you replay it and you notice more and more flaws with the pacing, the handholding, bowser being less interesting. Giant zookeeper boss fight the game had some good ideas but for things like the dream world it barely did anything with it.
@@Ravenbeak2564I completely disagree, just like in paper Mario 64, Bowser is the most awesome and threatening in dream team, the gyro controls is okay but not that bad, and I HATE how everyone blows the tutorials and pacing out of proportion when it isn't that bad
eh bowser's more funny in paper mario tbh but in dream team he has his moments, also as someone replaying the game the tutorials are really bad.@@andrewvanover9747
The partners in time was the first mario and luigi game i played, and i say, that game, will always, have a place on my heart😊 beeing to, one of my first mario games, Along with sm64ds and nsmb for the ds, and the og mario on a nes clone, but probably, the really firsts, was the ds titles
@@originalderkReally, objectively? DT has a mid villain with overly long tutorials and horrible pacing as well as less creativity in its dream world than bowser’s belly. Really bis and partners in time are better than dream team in every way.
For me (note that for Superstar Saga and Bowser's inside Story I've played both the originals and the remakes, and generally prefer the remakes for the most part): 5 Paper Jam (this is as bland and uninspired as you can get, half of the bros attacks are copy-pasted from Dream Team, and Paper Mario doesn't add a lot to the game imo) 4 Partners in Time (miles better than Paper Jam, too short for my taste, I do like the idea of consumable bros attacks, maybe they could've implemented it a bit better though) 3 Bowser's inside Story (a bit of an unpopular opinion, I find the whole changing to Bowser then Mario and Luigi then Bowser then Mario and Luigi areas annoying, such as the blooper fountain thing, and bros attacks feel the slowest in the entire series, I just don't like this game's combat as much as the others) 2 Superstar Saga (most replayable Mario and Luigi, best combat in the entire series as it is so quick and fluid, the main thing I don't like is Joke's End, the remake fixes most collision problems the GBA had) 1 Dream Team (I feel like this game either you love it or you hate it, giant battles are way better than Bowser's imho, I personally don't find the tutorials annoying as I feel they are necessary and are for the most part before the first visit to Mount Pajamaja, the soundtrack is at its best in the entire franchise, and I find the dream world as a more polished version of Bowser's inside segments, but without the annoyances I found in its predecessor and with more ways to interact with it, I do think the game could've been a bit shorter though) I consider all games to be great games except for Paper Jam, which is OK at its best and mediocre most of the time.
@@asiermr Well I just prefer the graphics. Honestly the 3ds version is great too. However, bis remake was really unnecessary and was worst than the original.
I've played bis my whole life, and of course, it is my favorite. But I'm playing through og superstar saga for the first time this week and I'm pleasantly surprised with how much i enjoy it. It's a close second for me. Still doesn't take the crown of best mario and luigi game, but it's up there
@queasycarboy508 a big part of it is nostalgia, as it's really the only one I played growing up. But the reasons I love it are the charming music, fluid and funny animations; where they make the characters look goofy yet cool at the same time. The main battle theme is boppy and fun and makes me want to enter battles. The bowser battle theme makes you feel like you're a force to be reckoned with, and bowser's animations and sprite make you feel so powerful and cool(who doesn't want to punch bad guys in the face with a meaty turtle dragon fist?). I also love bowser's personality in this game. It's nice for a change to have a main character you play as use speech, instead of just gibberish blurbs that other characters decipher for you. I think overall my favorite parts are these: music is amazing and unforgettable, playing as Bowser makes you feel cool and powerful, timing on the bros moves and special moves feels challenging but fair, and not too hard to master. And the whole mood and tone of the game just feels good to me. It has its serious moments(the music in Bowser Castle and the Tower of Yikk are personal favorites, they make me feel less like I'm playing a goofy mario game and more like an actual dungeon crawler rpg), but also the goofy and funny dialog remind me of the series it's in, and I feel they got a good balance of these tonal differences. Also, for the most part, I feel the ds gimmicks add to the gameplay rather than detract from it(with a few exceptions, those being the train boss and the nose minigame; and maybe a couple other small things).
AlphaDream is on record saying they remade Bowser's Inside Story over Partners in Time because Bowser's Inside Story sold better than Partners in Time on the DS, so they figured the same would be true for 3DS remakes. Little did they know that Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey would be the worst selling 3DS game. Anyway, here's my ranking- 1. Partners in Time 2. Paper Jam 3. Bowser's Inside Story 4. Dream Team 5. Superstar Saga
Everyone has their favorite mostly based on nostalgia and childhood memories Edit* My top 5 5. Dream team bros 4. Paper Jam 3. Bowser inside Story 2. Partners in time 1. Superstar Saga
Nice video. I have to admit that I only completed Partners in Time until today and I absolutely loved it. I still have to complete Dream Team, Paper Jam and Superstar Saga. I actually didn't like Bowser Inside that much, I tried it on DS back then and lost interest pretty quick.
you gotta give bowser's inside story more of a chance man, i can see the boredom it might start slow but it picks up pretty quick. Also playing as bowser is amazing, fawful is great you gotta give it another chance.
You have the Same opinion as me, one Thing I have to add for dream team and Paper Jam is that I didnt like the Design of the enemy Attacks. They were often just learn a Frame perfect Timing instead of actually understanding how the attack works, I didnt enjoy that.
I'm here to say a big fact, Bowser inside story is a little overrated because of Bowser. Yes, it's the best game of the saga but it ain't that far from superstar saga, partners in time and dream team.
It’s so sad how PIT is so disliked it’s story is so unique a little dark but it’s different which is nice and don’t get me started on the music. I wish I could play it for the first time again I’m hoping for a remake
5. Paper Jam 4. Dream Team 3. Bowser’s Inside Story 2. Partners In Time 1. Superstar Saga (Not Including remakes because they aren’t special and don’t have anything going for them.)
Inside story is one of the best games I’ve ever played when I was a kid, I hooked me instantly and I loved it so much, if it’s anywhere but 1 on anyones tier list they’ve got brain damage
I just recently started replaying the Mario RPG series. I think the release of Mario RPG for the Wii reminded me of M&L super star saga which was amazing. I played partners in time and that one was okay. I am loving Bowser's inside story and I can't wait to play dream team! I am also hearing mixed reviews about Brothership already. Overall, these Mario RPG's are an awesome series.
I was looking for this video, I wanted to know what was the best to play casually in some spare time, I played the first one on the GBA and I liked it a lot, that's why I wanna try another one.
Partners in time is my favorite because of how memorable it was. The premise of the story is devastating and it actually felt like a lot was at stake. Super immersive story and setting made me want to progress in the gameplay and had a satisfying build up leading to the ending/final boss. The shroobs were quite different for the Mario series and really creepy especially princess shroob. Game also has amazing soundtrack and visuals. I do agree that I wish the babies were a bit stronger/prominent in the gameplay or had more abilities in the battles besides the hammer though.
Strangely.... I feel kind of happy that I didn't miss out on much with the 3DS games. Never owned a 3DS. I do own the first 3 games and a DS. So... Yay. Experienced the best ones! I know that AlphaDream went bankrupt, but if Nintendo somehow manages to find a way to bring back the M&L series... I hope they bring back the bros.-like super movies from Superstar Saga.
Great video. I agree with rankings, I would just personally put Paper Jam at 4 and Dream Team at 5. Paper Jam’s story was mediocre but the gameplay and pacing was waaaay better than Dream Team imo.
5. Paper Jam: Not a Fawful + Dimentio combo to save the game (yes please), but at least something interesting and not bland 4. Partners in Time: The game's good and all, but I hate how some bros attacks are insanely broken, it ruins combat if you're too good 3. Dream Team: Best OST of the entire series, hands up. Bosses are great and bros attacks super duper fun. Antasma is a lackluster and tutorials are a drawback 2. Superstar Saga: A catchy story full of plot twists, Popple moments and the greatness of Fawful. Very satisfactory combat rythim. Remake fixes the Broken bros attacks 1. Bowser's Inside Story: An epic and emotional end to Fawful's arc. Story is thrilling and intense as it gets to and end since the beggining. Combat is awesome with Bowser and bosses feel just awesome.
My list is: 1) Dream Team (Nostalgia ftw) 2) Bowser's Inside Story 3) SuperStar Saga 4) Partners in Time (Great story, just very middle child in terms of Gameplay) 5) Paper Jam (Some of the best gameplay mechanics, just severly undercooked in the story category, which is the main focus for most M&L games)
I think the worst is dream team, I’ve all but bowsers inside story, and I feel like dream team is just so long and drawn out and the writing is pretty boring
Dream team is mediocre and frustrating, the difficulty is off the charts especially in the giant battles. I haven't finished it and I won't never it appears, I still like it in a way but it just feels off in comparison of the two masterpieces of Partners in time and Superstar saga
Dream team is underrated and overhated, y’all need to stop looking at the negatives and look at the positives infact PiT is the worst M&L because is boring too easy
@@3dsfan2002 oh yeah totally, jokes on me cuz instead of playing a game I didn’t like I did something else💀💀💀 bro you’re either some fat loser who reddits all day or someone who needs to punched in the face
I would be totally okay if paper jam got a sequal, a GOOD sequal, since it is so uninteresting The gameplay is good even if the paper battles are kinda whatever, still much better than sticker star
my ranking: 5) Paper jam (Surprise right? lol) 4) Partners in time (Not really valid, never got to play) 3) SuperStar Saga (Good game but ehh nothing crazy happened) 2) Dream team (remember the day I bought it and how happy and excited I was) 1) Inside Story (Grew up with the game, Bought it when I was like 6 and have so many memories)
I haven't finished dream team cause of the impossibile bowser giant battle so I must give to it a 0 out of 10 but yeah if I'd complete it I'd give it a 5 My ranking is this 1 Partners in time 10 out of 10 2 Superstar Saga 9 out of 10 3 Bowser inside story 7 out of 10 4 Paper Jam Bros 6 out of 10 5 Dream team bros 5 out of 10
I Mean this list just seems so wrong my personal ranking should be a bit better. 5. Partners In Time (They could’ve done so much more with this game I like all the Mario and Luigi RPGs but this is defiantly the worst. First off so many of the bosses are mid which is a part of these games I love as one of the most and on top of that the gameplay is the least enjoyable compared to others. The Story is very good but let’s be honest That’s the same for everything but paper Jam.) 4. Paper Jam(Honestly I enjoyed this game for the most part but there’s so many things that can make it annoying. First off saving so many paper toads like why? For the whole game are you serious?! Also paper craft battles are just awful I hate them so much. But other then that the areas were interesting and the bosses besides paper craft were great but the other 3 left beat this game for sure.) 3. Dream Team (I replayed this game recently and even thought I love it so much superstar saga and bowsers inside story just means to much to me this game has great areas, great story, amazing bosses for the most part. But the gameplay all around at the beginning I’ll admit is kinda boring I’d say around near the end of dozing sands it gets good. To be honest though I find the giant boss underrated like some are annoying but I think they should get more credit then given. Overall I love this game but it can’t beat the remaining 2 it came close though.) 2. Bowsers inside story (This took a lot of thought it really did I think some people expected superstar saga to be here but nope. This game is awesome the bosses the story to return of fawful it’s all beautiful the side game in the remake also had great story way better then superstar sagas. It’s just I feel like the final boss could’ve been harder as well as the giant battles besides peaches castle that was epic. Bosses are a big part of these games for me and some of them here are very annoying. This game is just awesome though and it defiantly deserves top 2.) 1. Superstar saga (This game is my childhood. Best start to a Mario series like ever. Beautiful story we thought Mario games could never create. Lots of cool secrets. Interesting Mini games with lots of nostalgia. The bosses are also awesome for me for the most part some of them are meh a bit underrated and a bit awesome. Overall this game is epic and I can’t put it anywhere but in the best spot.)
my list: 5. Paper Jam (7.5/10) 4. Partners in Time (8.5/10) 3. Superstar Saga (9/10) 2. Dream Team (10/10) 1. Bowser’s Inside Story (favorite game ever)
Paper Jam Bros is the worst one... But I need to say one good thing about it: I LOVE the team of 3 gameplay in battle. Having Paper Mario in the team makes the gameplay a lot of fun. The rest... Paper crafts, the story, the slow pasing, the toad minigames and the most boring boss fights in Mario&Luigi history.... the game is just not good...
@@TotallyTubularJonathan nice one, honestly you'll be surprised. the psx games are good, I've not seen much of the other stuff but I know there's loads you could delve into. Appreciate it!
In my opinion the list should have been different my rankings are 5.superstar saga For a starter game it's perfect a real building block in progression but I think the other games are better gameplay wise and graphics wise I know this 1 was made first but even the remake I don't think that's what was needed to make it stand out I love the interesting characters and moments but I just like the other games in the series better 4.paper jam 3 bad thing about paper jam 1 the world is a bit bland until halfway through 2 there isn't that any unique npcs 3 words paper toad missions those are the 3 things bad about paper jam the gameplay is amazing other than that paper mario has a bunch of amazing abilities and running around has never been so fun and engaging 3.dream team 2 slightly bad things about dream team the pacing and the fact that you get your first bros attack a staple to the mario and luigi games about a hour through the game other than that it was amazing to have 3 types of battles regular standard battles dream battles and the returning from bowsers inside story giant battles Also this was the game in the series that introduced badge combos both bros would get a set of badges different to each other you can mix and match these badges to do different things 2.bowsers inside story I loved inside story especially the ending the giant battles were also great this game in the franchise is the 1 I think perfected the bosses but I can't give it 1st because unfortunately there are platforming parts where you need to switch back and forth between the bros and bowser being extremely tedious and time compared 1.partners in time This 1 is the perfect game in the franchise the graphics while underwhelming still work better than ever I don't think I'd like a redesign of the graphics the additional 2 buttons for baby mario and baby luigi work really well to make you want to keep mario and luigi alive you can split the team into 2 party's the bros and their baby counterparts there are so many fun background gags during cutscenes and I loved watching the bros interact with their younger self's there is 1 scene that fits perfectly the bros all find cookies on the ground mario and baby mario exit the area as they want to continue luigi snags a cookie and is about to have a bite but decides to give it to baby luigi it's a cute little interaction which there are tons of the gameplay is the best being a good mix of challenging but fair there are improvements that could have been made but overall this is the best 1 of the bunch not a single bad thing to say about it interesting characters good plot perfect battle sequences amazing progression and pacing there isn't a single other game in the series that can top it
Ranking the worst to best M&L game (my opinion) 7. Paper Jam 6. Partners in Time 5. Dream Team 4. Superstar Saga DX 3. Bowser's Inside Story DX 2. Superstar Saga 1. Bowser's Inside Story
10 month late reply. I think M&L and Paper Mario have their own universe. I am no fans of Mario regular Platforming, only played 2 games from the series and got tired easily. But if you like or into turn based games, definitely go and try M&L series.
Bowser's inside story has always been the m+l goat it's a shame the remake was such a letdown. Also lame that Partners was never remade cus it wasn't popular. Paper jam is meh but i don't think that's alphadreams fault I think it's very likely nintendo forced them to hold back on the paper mario references I mean look at how nintendo has treated paper mario. We've finally got ttyd hd but b4 that they've really treated pm like complete garbage.
I played superstar saga on gba as a kid and now at 26 rebuying all the mario and luigi games, i like to say thank you dark souls😂😂 i threw all my stats on strength and started one shotting bosses 😂👍🏾 good video man
I've had bis for years, but other than that, I've only played partners in time before. I bought all the games over the last few weeks; i like paper jam so far(haven't gotten very far), superstar saga is much better than i thought it would be, and i don't really like dream team. The gimmicky special attacks just aren't very fun to pull off for me. The luiginary attacks are kind of fun, but other than that, and maybe one or 2 others, i don't like the special attacks. Which kind of ruins the game for me, considering how important they are to the battle system
bro has the same ranking as every other person on the planet, paper jam and dream team on bottom, partners in time in middle, bowser's inside story on top with superstar saga close behind. I bet you that with maybe minor tweaks like swapping ss with bis 90% of rankings on youtube are the same as this
I would replace dream team with sticker star,and put dream team to number 5, because while sticker star has long gameplay, it is usually fun and it's puzzles are well made, not to mention the big sticker that can be found around the map and can do very cool things such as the fan which blows all stickers away doing huge damage or outright instakilling, and not to mention the map and worlds with so much detail put into them
dream team is one of the most underrated mario games to be made. like exploring luigi’s dreams are super cool especially when you find out that luigi wants to be just like his brother and help him. really love dream team!
Couldn’t agree more, it’s the most unique Mario game ever and I honestly don’t understand how it’s not considered the best and superstar saga is. No offence to superstar saga or people who like it but imo i don’t think it was as good as dream team in any way
Plus, the world that is present to us is easily the most visually interesting and unique world out of this entries. Is way better than the world map of Bowser Inside Story, which is good but didn't have too much unique areas.
I think it got critisism is because also bit too long and stretched
I absolutely loved dream team
Me too! I love repeat hard mode playthroughs! It’s always such a blast to go back to!
No clue why people dislike dream team that much. I would argue that it’s probably the mario and luigi game with the most new content. Story wise is not on a bowser inside story level but besides the first two bros moves in the overworld every other move is also unique and new. So was the artstyle at it’s time as well as all the dream world stuff, the game didn’t feel too easy, i actually think it’s one of the best balanced mario & luigi game having died to some bosses myself, the tutorial is definitely the biggest flaw but besides that me being a partners in time simp i would definitely say that dream team is a proper rpg that’s less repetitive gameplay wise then partners in time.
Same I loved the game it was my favourite
@@buny0058Nah partners in time is less repetitive.
Yea tbh i think dream team could be most easily improved game in the series just by getting rid of some lenghty tutorials or dialogue scenes. I really loved everything else about it, i think the dream world is better than bowsers inside, the music is amazing, battles and bosses are fun etc. Weirdly enough dream team would be the most fitting to a remake; i don’t think partners in time’s issues can be solved as easily at all (though it would greatly benefit from a visual upgrade imo)
Partners in Time is GROSSLY underrated
agree 1000%, one of the most memorable games ive played in my whole life
I actually enjoyed it my second time playing through it more than my first time. I love it but I wish it had more side quests and extra content. There were no real mini games or extra bosses.
It is in a weird space for me where it is both underrated and overrated
Yep. It's still on the harder side even after replaying and the music is just so good. Whether you're roaming around the outside locations, exploring the world buildings, or just relaxing at the castle, the music is perfect and just fills you with good vibes and feelings. The fight themes are also very good. Also the game is funny as hell, heartwarming, and filled with tense moments all at the same time.
If you look at it on google it has the highest percentage of likes than any other Mario game in general, pretty cool.
5) Paper Jam
4) Partners in time
3) Bowser's inside story
2) Superstar saga
1) Dream team
Sorry, i just played DT last week and it's ab absolutely awesome game, still don't know why is it so hated
My list is similar my 1 and 2 are reversed also good list
Peak team
Fun fact:Mario and Luigi from partners in time are not the same as the Mario and Luigi from bowsers inside story they were the baby versions of themselves as revealed in Bowser’s inside story Mario and Luigi go to bowser’s castle and see frozen shroobs and Mario tells starlow about how him and Luigi fought those alien creatures as babies
I suppose that would mean there is 2 separate timelines. One where Mario & Luigi fought the Shroobs as adults, and one where they fought them as babies.
The only exception would be if the Mario Bros actually fight the shroobs twice in their life, once as babies, and once as adults.
The weird part is though, is the Bros traveled back in time to fight the shroobs, would that imply that it already happened? I find it hard to believe that they did fight them twice due to plot armour.
I think you're correct then, that there are 2 timelines in which M&L fought the shroobs as babies, and in their same lifetime don't fight them again as adults (at least until BiS) and the other being M&L fight the shroobs exclusively as adults in PiT.
@@nobevgregI think PIT is a prequel to superstar saga
What?
@@DaPurpleWarrior partners in time is a prequel to superstar saga
@@animalcrossingfan0768 nah bro, Fawful was in PIT and he talked about his time in the BeanBean Kingdom and how Mario & Luigi humiliate him
My ranking:
5) Paper jam
4) Superstar saga
3) Dream team
2) bowsers inside story
1) partners in time
Mid
@@Max-rv8mu Bro's mad because he likes Partners in Time
@@boo_guy Nah I just disagree bro
@@Max-rv8mu You didn't have to say it's mid tho, it's an opinion
Absolutely based
My ranking:
5) Paper jam
4) Dream Team
3) Partners in time
2) Bowser’s inside story
1) Superstar Saga
Dream team is the best lil bro
@Xerox_24 No it's not.
15:10 "Bowser just gets this ability to suck" lmao
5) Paper Jam
4) Dream Team
3) Superstar Saga
2) Partners in Time
1) Bowser’s Inside Story
This is the correct ranking
At least it'd different than literally everyone else's rankings, like we get it, paper jam is ass, we get it dream team is mid, we get it, partners in time has capitalism instead of syrup, WE GET IT. But superstar saga clears partners in time
@@Shmaowzaow if dream team is mid wouldn't it be 3rd
@@ketchupskeleton9878factous
Switch dream team and superstar saga and its perfect
My ranking is:
5-Paper Jam
4-Partners in Time
3-Dream Team
2-Bowser's Inside Story
1-SuperStar Saga (I prefer the remake)
My list is similar two and 3 are switched for me otherwise it’s the same so it’s a pretty agreeable list and I also prefer superstar saga remake too as it’s the one I played more
Agree really much, Superstar Saga just has a massive glow up with the remake
Came across this video after watching the Nintendo direct for Mario and Luigi: Brothership
Despite my issues with Dream Team, I loved the game quite a bit. Dream Team for me was a gem.
it's a good game, then you replay it and you notice more and more flaws with the pacing, the handholding, bowser being less interesting. Giant zookeeper boss fight the game had some good ideas but for things like the dream world it barely did anything with it.
@@Ravenbeak2564I completely disagree, just like in paper Mario 64, Bowser is the most awesome and threatening in dream team, the gyro controls is okay but not that bad, and I HATE how everyone blows the tutorials and pacing out of proportion when it isn't that bad
eh bowser's more funny in paper mario tbh but in dream team he has his moments, also as someone replaying the game the tutorials are really bad.@@andrewvanover9747
The best mario and luigi game
@@Ravenbeak2564who asked your L opinion ?
Dream Team is overhated and underrated gem
Yup, i loved it
Wait… people actually HATE this game ?!
The partners in time was the first mario and luigi game i played, and i say, that game, will always, have a place on my heart😊 beeing to, one of my first mario games, Along with sm64ds and nsmb for the ds, and the og mario on a nes clone, but probably, the really firsts, was the ds titles
probably the darkest game related to mario at all. the threat of the shroobs really stood out and its what keeps this game no 2 for me
BIS and Dream Team were my childhood, but I personally love BIS more.
BIS is alot more memorable imo... DT is alot more creative imo tho... BIS is perfection tho
@@originalderk have you played bowsers inside story… it’s peak
@@originalderkReally, objectively? DT has a mid villain with overly long tutorials and horrible pacing as well as less creativity in its dream world than bowser’s belly. Really bis and partners in time are better than dream team in every way.
Dream team better
@@TheGalekGamesDT better
For me (note that for Superstar Saga and Bowser's inside Story I've played both the originals and the remakes, and generally prefer the remakes for the most part):
5 Paper Jam (this is as bland and uninspired as you can get, half of the bros attacks are copy-pasted from Dream Team, and Paper Mario doesn't add a lot to the game imo)
4 Partners in Time (miles better than Paper Jam, too short for my taste, I do like the idea of consumable bros attacks, maybe they could've implemented it a bit better though)
3 Bowser's inside Story (a bit of an unpopular opinion, I find the whole changing to Bowser then Mario and Luigi then Bowser then Mario and Luigi areas annoying, such as the blooper fountain thing, and bros attacks feel the slowest in the entire series, I just don't like this game's combat as much as the others)
2 Superstar Saga (most replayable Mario and Luigi, best combat in the entire series as it is so quick and fluid, the main thing I don't like is Joke's End, the remake fixes most collision problems the GBA had)
1 Dream Team (I feel like this game either you love it or you hate it, giant battles are way better than Bowser's imho, I personally don't find the tutorials annoying as I feel they are necessary and are for the most part before the first visit to Mount Pajamaja, the soundtrack is at its best in the entire franchise, and I find the dream world as a more polished version of Bowser's inside segments, but without the annoyances I found in its predecessor and with more ways to interact with it, I do think the game could've been a bit shorter though)
I consider all games to be great games except for Paper Jam, which is OK at its best and mediocre most of the time.
Nah the originals are way better than the remakes.
Dream team sucks ass.
@@voltron77 Why do you consider GBA Superstar Saga better than 3DS? I'm genuinly curious.
@@asiermr Well I just prefer the graphics. Honestly the 3ds version is great too. However, bis remake was really unnecessary and was worst than the original.
Big W
I've played bis my whole life, and of course, it is my favorite. But I'm playing through og superstar saga for the first time this week and I'm pleasantly surprised with how much i enjoy it. It's a close second for me. Still doesn't take the crown of best mario and luigi game, but it's up there
May i be curious why its your favourite? I'm playing it (i'm almost at the first star cure) but never found it enjoyable.
@queasycarboy508 a big part of it is nostalgia, as it's really the only one I played growing up. But the reasons I love it are the charming music, fluid and funny animations; where they make the characters look goofy yet cool at the same time. The main battle theme is boppy and fun and makes me want to enter battles. The bowser battle theme makes you feel like you're a force to be reckoned with, and bowser's animations and sprite make you feel so powerful and cool(who doesn't want to punch bad guys in the face with a meaty turtle dragon fist?). I also love bowser's personality in this game. It's nice for a change to have a main character you play as use speech, instead of just gibberish blurbs that other characters decipher for you. I think overall my favorite parts are these: music is amazing and unforgettable, playing as Bowser makes you feel cool and powerful, timing on the bros moves and special moves feels challenging but fair, and not too hard to master. And the whole mood and tone of the game just feels good to me. It has its serious moments(the music in Bowser Castle and the Tower of Yikk are personal favorites, they make me feel less like I'm playing a goofy mario game and more like an actual dungeon crawler rpg), but also the goofy and funny dialog remind me of the series it's in, and I feel they got a good balance of these tonal differences. Also, for the most part, I feel the ds gimmicks add to the gameplay rather than detract from it(with a few exceptions, those being the train boss and the nose minigame; and maybe a couple other small things).
AlphaDream is on record saying they remade Bowser's Inside Story over Partners in Time because Bowser's Inside Story sold better than Partners in Time on the DS, so they figured the same would be true for 3DS remakes. Little did they know that Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey would be the worst selling 3DS game. Anyway, here's my ranking-
1. Partners in Time
2. Paper Jam
3. Bowser's Inside Story
4. Dream Team
5. Superstar Saga
Dream team better
The marketing for BIS was pretty good and it released alongside the DSi. The commercial is what really made me want the game
Who else is here after seeing Brothership
Moi
Everyone has their favorite mostly based on nostalgia and childhood memories
Edit* My top 5
5. Dream team bros
4. Paper Jam
3. Bowser inside Story
2. Partners in time
1. Superstar Saga
Dream team better lil bro
@@Xerox_24 bruh
Nice video. I have to admit that I only completed Partners in Time until today and I absolutely loved it.
I still have to complete Dream Team, Paper Jam and Superstar Saga.
I actually didn't like Bowser Inside that much, I tried it on DS back then and lost interest pretty quick.
you gotta give bowser's inside story more of a chance man, i can see the boredom it might start slow but it picks up pretty quick. Also playing as bowser is amazing, fawful is great you gotta give it another chance.
Superstar saga is the best.I also felt the same about bowsers inside story. If you like partners in time super star saga is a must
Quick reminder. This was posted BEFORE Mario and Luigi Brothership was announced!
Superstar saga was overrated back in the day and still is. Paperjams story and world can feel bland but the gameplay is the best of the serie imo
Ik Paper Jam is usually at the bottom of the lists, but I love this game it's one of my favorites in the series because of its simplicity
You have the Same opinion as me, one Thing I have to add for dream team and Paper Jam is that I didnt like the Design of the enemy Attacks. They were often just learn a Frame perfect Timing instead of actually understanding how the attack works, I didnt enjoy that.
I'm here to say a big fact, Bowser inside story is a little overrated because of Bowser. Yes, it's the best game of the saga but it ain't that far from superstar saga, partners in time and dream team.
It’s so sad how PIT is so disliked it’s story is so unique a little dark but it’s different which is nice and don’t get me started on the music. I wish I could play it for the first time again I’m hoping for a remake
5) Paper Jam
4) Partners in Time
3) Dream Team
2) Superstar Saga
1) Bowsers Inside Story
5. Paper Jam
4. Dream Team
3. Bowser’s Inside Story
2. Partners In Time
1. Superstar Saga
(Not Including remakes because they aren’t special and don’t have anything going for them.)
Dream team is the best lil bro
@@Xerox_24 Dream Team is just another Mario game in a different genre cosplaying as a New Super Mario Bros. game.
@@chucke.cheese2212 dream team is better than all mario and luigi gba or ds game cry
@@Xerox_24 I’m guessing you were born less than 15 years ago.
@@chucke.cheese2212 Nah I am just objectively and dream team is the best mario and luigi game
Inside story is one of the best games I’ve ever played when I was a kid, I hooked me instantly and I loved it so much, if it’s anywhere but 1 on anyones tier list they’ve got brain damage
I just recently started replaying the Mario RPG series. I think the release of Mario RPG for the Wii reminded me of M&L super star saga which was amazing. I played partners in time and that one was okay. I am loving Bowser's inside story and I can't wait to play dream team! I am also hearing mixed reviews about Brothership already. Overall, these Mario RPG's are an awesome series.
i genuinely couldnt rank them theyre all so good 😭
5. Paper Jam 4. Dream Team 3. Partners in Time 2. SuperStar Saga. 1. Bowser’s Inside Story
I was looking for this video, I wanted to know what was the best to play casually in some spare time, I played the first one on the GBA and I liked it a lot, that's why I wanna try another one.
Brothership is coming! 🎉
Partners in time is my favorite because of how memorable it was. The premise of the story is devastating and it actually felt like a lot was at stake. Super immersive story and setting made me want to progress in the gameplay and had a satisfying build up leading to the ending/final boss. The shroobs were quite different for the Mario series and really creepy especially princess shroob. Game also has amazing soundtrack and visuals. I do agree that I wish the babies were a bit stronger/prominent in the gameplay or had more abilities in the battles besides the hammer though.
5. Paper Jam
4. Dream Team
3 Superstar Saga
2. Bowsers inside story
1. Partners in time
I played Superstar Saga and I wanted to play every Mario and Luigi game
Paper Jam
Dream Team
Superstar Saga
Bowser's Inside Story
Partners in Time
Strangely.... I feel kind of happy that I didn't miss out on much with the 3DS games. Never owned a 3DS. I do own the first 3 games and a DS. So... Yay. Experienced the best ones! I know that AlphaDream went bankrupt, but if Nintendo somehow manages to find a way to bring back the M&L series... I hope they bring back the bros.-like super movies from Superstar Saga.
just because this guy rated them at the bottom doesnt mean they are actually the worst ones maybe try formulating your opinions 🤔
Dream team is the best lil bro
Guess what, a 6th entry is incomming!
@@thellamadj283 Hallelujah man! Yeah, I saw the direct!!! Super happy, will definitely buy it this November!
Great video. I agree with rankings, I would just personally put Paper Jam at 4 and Dream Team at 5. Paper Jam’s story was mediocre but the gameplay and pacing was waaaay better than Dream Team imo.
Yee
Your opinion is off then. Dream Team is better than Paper Jam all things considered.
My dude dream team is way better then paper jam I’d put paper jam at number 4 myself but at number 5 I’d say partners in time
Cringe
Dream team better lil bro
5. Paper Jam: Not a Fawful + Dimentio combo to save the game (yes please), but at least something interesting and not bland
4. Partners in Time: The game's good and all, but I hate how some bros attacks are insanely broken, it ruins combat if you're too good
3. Dream Team: Best OST of the entire series, hands up. Bosses are great and bros attacks super duper fun. Antasma is a lackluster and tutorials are a drawback
2. Superstar Saga: A catchy story full of plot twists, Popple moments and the greatness of Fawful. Very satisfactory combat rythim. Remake fixes the Broken bros attacks
1. Bowser's Inside Story: An epic and emotional end to Fawful's arc. Story is thrilling and intense as it gets to and end since the beggining. Combat is awesome with Bowser and bosses feel just awesome.
5.Paper Jam
4.Dream Team
3.Partners In Time
2.Bowser Inside Story
1.Superstar Saga
My list is:
1) Dream Team (Nostalgia ftw)
2) Bowser's Inside Story
3) SuperStar Saga
4) Partners in Time (Great story, just very middle child in terms of Gameplay)
5) Paper Jam (Some of the best gameplay mechanics, just severly undercooked in the story category, which is the main focus for most M&L games)
I think the worst is dream team, I’ve all but bowsers inside story, and I feel like dream team is just so long and drawn out and the writing is pretty boring
Dream team is mediocre and frustrating, the difficulty is off the charts especially in the giant battles. I haven't finished it and I won't never it appears, I still like it in a way but it just feels off in comparison of the two masterpieces of Partners in time and Superstar saga
Dream team is underrated and overhated, y’all need to stop looking at the negatives and look at the positives infact PiT is the worst M&L because is boring too easy
@@3dsfan2002 it’s positives just don’t outweigh the negatives
@@Big_G5654 the joke’s on you, cus the positives outweigh the cons
@@3dsfan2002 oh yeah totally, jokes on me cuz instead of playing a game I didn’t like I did something else💀💀💀 bro you’re either some fat loser who reddits all day or someone who needs to punched in the face
I would be totally okay if paper jam got a sequal, a GOOD sequal, since it is so uninteresting
The gameplay is good even if the paper battles are kinda whatever, still much better than sticker star
my ranking:
5) Paper jam (Surprise right? lol)
4) Partners in time (Not really valid, never got to play)
3) SuperStar Saga (Good game but ehh nothing crazy happened)
2) Dream team (remember the day I bought it and how happy and excited I was)
1) Inside Story (Grew up with the game, Bought it when I was like 6 and have so many memories)
The best ones in the mario and luigi series
1 bowser's inside
2 superstar saga
are legendary mario rpgs on gba and ds
Dream team better
Mario and Luigi dream team is my favourite
The best
this is so ironic now since brothership got announced
I haven't finished dream team cause of the impossibile bowser giant battle so I must give to it a 0 out of 10 but yeah if I'd complete it I'd give it a 5
My ranking is this
1 Partners in time 10 out of 10
2 Superstar Saga 9 out of 10
3 Bowser inside story 7 out of 10
4 Paper Jam Bros 6 out of 10
5 Dream team bros 5 out of 10
Dream team is the best Lmao
Skill issue
Wdym impossible lmao
When I used to be stuck in a boss in M&L:SSS and gave up, I'd go play the mini game
Which boss was it
@carlyskolnik296 I was stuck at Queen Bean Boss Fight
1.Superstar Saga
2.Partners in time
3.Paper jam
4.Dream Team
5.Bowsers Inside story (still a 8/10 game)
Dream Team on top. Underrated af.
I Mean this list just seems so wrong my personal ranking should be a bit better.
5. Partners In Time (They could’ve done so much more with this game I like all the Mario and Luigi RPGs but this is defiantly the worst. First off so many of the bosses are mid which is a part of these games I love as one of the most and on top of that the gameplay is the least enjoyable compared to others. The Story is very good but let’s be honest That’s the same for everything but paper Jam.)
4. Paper Jam(Honestly I enjoyed this game for the most part but there’s so many things that can make it annoying. First off saving so many paper toads like why? For the whole game are you serious?! Also paper craft battles are just awful I hate them so much. But other then that the areas were interesting and the bosses besides paper craft were great but the other 3 left beat this game for sure.)
3. Dream Team (I replayed this game recently and even thought I love it so much superstar saga and bowsers inside story just means to much to me this game has great areas, great story, amazing bosses for the most part. But the gameplay all around at the beginning I’ll admit is kinda boring I’d say around near the end of dozing sands it gets good. To be honest though I find the giant boss underrated like some are annoying but I think they should get more credit then given. Overall I love this game but it can’t beat the remaining 2 it came close though.)
2. Bowsers inside story (This took a lot of thought it really did I think some people expected superstar saga to be here but nope. This game is awesome the bosses the story to return of fawful it’s all beautiful the side game in the remake also had great story way better then superstar sagas. It’s just I feel like the final boss could’ve been harder as well as the giant battles besides peaches castle that was epic. Bosses are a big part of these games for me and some of them here are very annoying. This game is just awesome though and it defiantly deserves top 2.)
1. Superstar saga (This game is my childhood. Best start to a Mario series like ever. Beautiful story we thought Mario games could never create. Lots of cool secrets. Interesting Mini games with lots of nostalgia. The bosses are also awesome for me for the most part some of them are meh a bit underrated and a bit awesome. Overall this game is epic and I can’t put it anywhere but in the best spot.)
Bro blinded nostalgia
Dream team better
my list:
5. Paper Jam (7.5/10)
4. Partners in Time (8.5/10)
3. Superstar Saga (9/10)
2. Dream Team (10/10)
1. Bowser’s Inside Story (favorite game ever)
BOY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU!!
Paper Jam Bros is the worst one...
But I need to say one good thing about it: I LOVE the team of 3 gameplay in battle.
Having Paper Mario in the team makes the gameplay a lot of fun.
The rest... Paper crafts, the story, the slow pasing, the toad minigames and the most boring boss fights in Mario&Luigi history.... the game is just not good...
My favorite is bowsers inside story, but partners in time and dream team are tied for second for me, they're all good though
Hey man! Would you ever consider ranking all the rugrats games? It'd be a blast haha
pretty random, but I will add it to my list! I have never touched a single one. Have a bunch on ps1 though.
@@TotallyTubularJonathan nice one, honestly you'll be surprised. the psx games are good, I've not seen much of the other stuff but I know there's loads you could delve into. Appreciate it!
So many people talkked shit about sticker star but I genuinely liked it. Funny, good gameplay and a cute art style.
i tried to play it on a rom and it didnt even let me play it 😭
5. Paper Jam
4. Superstar Saga
3. Partners in Time
2. Dream team
1. Bowsers Inside Story
Bro super star saga is way betther
eel like there is not enough emphasis on this : They are all good
I personally loved Bowser's Inside Story, it was a creative concept 😁 plus it was challenging at times.
My Ranking:
5. Paper Jam
4. Bowsers Inside Story (yeah I didnt like it that much tbh)
3. Superstar Saga
2. Partners in Time
1. Dream Team Bros
I’d say Paper Jam is the best! 👍
I’m at the TOP with that one!! :)
@@NatalIZayahA19 fr
Bowsers inside story all the way.
In my opinion the list should have been different my rankings are
5.superstar saga
For a starter game it's perfect a real building block in progression but I think the other games are better gameplay wise and graphics wise I know this 1 was made first but even the remake I don't think that's what was needed to make it stand out I love the interesting characters and moments but I just like the other games in the series better
4.paper jam
3 bad thing about paper jam 1 the world is a bit bland until halfway through 2 there isn't that any unique npcs 3 words paper toad missions those are the 3 things bad about paper jam the gameplay is amazing other than that paper mario has a bunch of amazing abilities and running around has never been so fun and engaging
3.dream team
2 slightly bad things about dream team the pacing and the fact that you get your first bros attack a staple to the mario and luigi games about a hour through the game other than that it was amazing to have 3 types of battles regular standard battles dream battles and the returning from bowsers inside story giant battles
Also this was the game in the series that introduced badge combos both bros would get a set of badges different to each other you can mix and match these badges to do different things
2.bowsers inside story
I loved inside story especially the ending the giant battles were also great this game in the franchise is the 1 I think perfected the bosses but I can't give it 1st because unfortunately there are platforming parts where you need to switch back and forth between the bros and bowser being extremely tedious and time compared
1.partners in time
This 1 is the perfect game in the franchise the graphics while underwhelming still work better than ever I don't think I'd like a redesign of the graphics the additional 2 buttons for baby mario and baby luigi work really well to make you want to keep mario and luigi alive you can split the team into 2 party's the bros and their baby counterparts there are so many fun background gags during cutscenes and I loved watching the bros interact with their younger self's there is 1 scene that fits perfectly the bros all find cookies on the ground mario and baby mario exit the area as they want to continue luigi snags a cookie and is about to have a bite but decides to give it to baby luigi it's a cute little interaction which there are tons of the gameplay is the best being a good mix of challenging but fair there are improvements that could have been made but overall this is the best 1 of the bunch not a single bad thing to say about it interesting characters good plot perfect battle sequences amazing progression and pacing there isn't a single other game in the series that can top it
Dream team better lil bro
@@Xerox_24 than what???
@Xerox_24 I rated it as high as I like it I wasn't setting the tier list everyone will agree on I made 1 on my personal preference
@@connortron02 all game
DT best game in the series objectively
@@Xerox_24 I personally don't rate dt that highly
Tell me you have nothing to say without telling me you have nothing to say (not even mad at the order I’d do the same lol)
Partners in Time
Ranking the worst to best M&L game (my opinion)
7. Paper Jam
6. Partners in Time
5. Dream Team
4. Superstar Saga DX
3. Bowser's Inside Story DX
2. Superstar Saga
1. Bowser's Inside Story
the correct ranking:
5) paper jam
4) partners in time
3) superstar saga
2) dream team
1) bowsers inside story
honestly thats 1:1 with my opinion lol
Bricks isn't what's used to build a house
Mine is:
1. Paper jam
2. Suoerstar saga
3. Bowser's inside story
4. Dream team
5. Partners in time
Put partners in time up
Bro super starsaga is way bether then dream team or partners in time
Bowser's inside story is my favorite and my 2nd favorite mario rpg behind TTYD
Dream team better
the shrooms?, bro its the shrooBs with a B
are you gonna be ranking fallout and the xeno series?
Fallout yes, hopefully this year. Xeno idkkkkkk those are big big games. I loved the first Chronicles but Im not too familiar with the other games
are these games related to each other or other mario games?
i only played the old super mario games on NES when i was a kid
10 month late reply. I think M&L and Paper Mario have their own universe.
I am no fans of Mario regular Platforming, only played 2 games from the series and got tired easily.
But if you like or into turn based games, definitely go and try M&L series.
@@misaellim148 thank you :)
Bowser's inside story has always been the m+l goat it's a shame the remake was such a letdown. Also lame that Partners was never remade cus it wasn't popular. Paper jam is meh but i don't think that's alphadreams fault I think it's very likely nintendo forced them to hold back on the paper mario references I mean look at how nintendo has treated paper mario. We've finally got ttyd hd but b4 that they've really treated pm like complete garbage.
Superstar saga is best game ever in the series
Agreed
I played superstar saga on gba as a kid and now at 26 rebuying all the mario and luigi games, i like to say thank you dark souls😂😂 i threw all my stats on strength and started one shotting bosses 😂👍🏾 good video man
I've had bis for years, but other than that, I've only played partners in time before. I bought all the games over the last few weeks; i like paper jam so far(haven't gotten very far), superstar saga is much better than i thought it would be, and i don't really like dream team. The gimmicky special attacks just aren't very fun to pull off for me. The luiginary attacks are kind of fun, but other than that, and maybe one or 2 others, i don't like the special attacks. Which kind of ruins the game for me, considering how important they are to the battle system
bro has the same ranking as every other person on the planet, paper jam and dream team on bottom, partners in time in middle, bowser's inside story on top with superstar saga close behind. I bet you that with maybe minor tweaks like swapping ss with bis 90% of rankings on youtube are the same as this
I loved dream team but I didn't enjoy Superstar Saga (and I tried it twice, the second time I spent several hours), I haven't tried the other ones.
Bowsers inside story thats the only one i really got on my 3DS
Dream Team has way too much bloat, and the tutorials are egregious. The pacing really drags it down.
1: BiS
2: SS
3: DT
4: PiT
5: PJ
Bowser's Inside Story BETTER be number 1.
Dream Team’s story is weaker and the game is just straight up too long, but I 100% think it’s better than partners in time imo
100% disagree.
100% agree
@@Max-rv8mu No 100% disagree
@@Eli-12822 2v1 your opinion is just wrong
@Max-rv8mu I hate you and it's not a opinion it's a fact. F u
Mario and luigi dream team bros is the best lil bro
What is the game called at :36 seconds???
Dont understand the dream team hate.
Why does everyone put Paper Jam last? it's a great game. better than dream team and superstar saga.
wouldnt say better tham DT but possibly better than SS
@@HardClayConsumerno its not
Bro dream team is goated people are just on some drugs 😔😔😔😔😔😔
No Muschrom
And….I haven’t played any of these games 😅
16.4.23
:/
Partners in Time
Dream Team
Superstar Saga
Bowers Inside Story
Paper Jam
I would replace dream team with sticker star,and put dream team to number 5, because while sticker star has long gameplay, it is usually fun and it's puzzles are well made, not to mention the big sticker that can be found around the map and can do very cool things such as the fan which blows all stickers away doing huge damage or outright instakilling, and not to mention the map and worlds with so much detail put into them
sticker star is a paper mario game...
Paper jam?
Sroobs, not Shrooms
i agree with with morst placements would just swap dream team and partner cuz i pref the gameplay stuff over over story
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