Descartes Union of Mind and Body

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024

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  • @DavoodGozli
    @DavoodGozli Год назад +1

    Beautiful! Your videos on Descartes are great, especially given that he has been one of the most highly caricaturized thinkers. People use him as a placeholder, a mere starting point. What you're doing is staying with him and paying attention to his body of work. Monsieur Descartes would be very pleased!

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад

      Thank you so much for saying this! It really does mean a lot, as one thing I am always hesitant, or worried about when putting these videos together is if I am being misleading or simplifying to the point of being misleading. These kind of comments are greatly appreciated and encouraging!😊

  • @GreenerSideOfSam
    @GreenerSideOfSam Год назад +1

    When I think about the mind body union i think of the process of unfolding and folding, the unfolding being the thinking and folding being movement. Both are necessary as we experience the unfolding of an expandable ball folding. I don’t know if that makes sense, but thank you for speaking on the animal spirit. That is all for today. 😊

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад +1

      Oh! That is a great example, and a key word you use there is "necessary." The experience is one thing that necessarily involves the two. And yes! I had to include animal spirits after reading your message haha 😊

  • @LadyJaneBooks
    @LadyJaneBooks Год назад

    I love thinking about the interaction of body and soul. Very deep and meaningful exploration.

  • @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
    @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Год назад

    Incredible yet again, and I very much appreciate the way your clearly explained why Mind and Body are linked in Descartes, and the defense you gave for the reasoning behind “the penal gland thesis” was amazing. I also completely agree that if people aren’t laughing at us 100% from now, we’re in trouble-beautifully put.

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад +1

      It is funny how we take so many of these ideas we look at as "hilariously inaccurate" today and rarely bother with looking at how/why they came to these conclusion. More than often, given the time period, it does make perfect sense. The limits of logic and reason is greatly expressed through history. Thank you, I am very glad you like this series! 😎

    • @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
      @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Год назад

      ​@@attention5638 The way you described that was really moving, and I think it's something that frankly needs to be screamed from the mountaintops: If we're not stupid today, it's because of the ideas of yesterday which we find stupid now. Let us be slow to judge lest we be judged by those of tomorrow...

  • @BrandonsBookshelf
    @BrandonsBookshelf Год назад +2

    Man, I am so freaking impressed. I'm over here just taking notes on the HOW of your videos. How do you break down this info. How do you choose to communicate these complicated ideas etc. Its a course for me on my videos because you go much deeper than I have so far into the minutia of these principles. This was really interesting. Well done.

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад

      This comment made my day! When I see people that I know are truly interested in these subjects get something from them, it makes it well worth it. Descartes has become so familiar in our Western thinking, he seems to have become unrecognized outside a trope (to use Hegel's 'the familiar is not the known'). We tend to reduce him to the Cogito which has already been overly simplified. I hope, by the end of this series, one can take away a fuller grasp of his first principle and its importance. Thank you again, my friend! 😊

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад

      Oh, also (I will mention this here so I do not forget) I have been meaning to email you soon in regard to a discussion on Nietzsche in relation to some of this. I was going to do a video after this series I thought you may be interested in being involved with. Of course, no pressure at all, and I understand if life is too busy at the moment, but I will throw it out there, the door will be open! 😎

    • @LastLeaf-sg9ie
      @LastLeaf-sg9ie Год назад

      ​@@attention5638 How much Hatefull speech even can I know what is the matter for all of it .. Did you even try to judge that person who make it bigger and use all just for what no one see the other side of the story .. evils are everywhere they just always try to make people's fight .. Please just ones try to know about reality from where it starts and you got it from him who start this ..

  • @nancydupuis8083
    @nancydupuis8083 Год назад

    I'm so thrilled I found your videos. They're educational but hilarious. And you're so cute.

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад

      Oh! Thank you for checking these out! I do try to keep a balance, though I tend to fall quite frequently haha😅

    • @LastLeaf-sg9ie
      @LastLeaf-sg9ie Год назад

      Ahle kitaab hone k bawajood insaniyat bhi nai jante Kam az Kam Apni Bible Ko parh k dekh lo .. Kya Waha aisa likha hai k Kisi dosre insan k Sath aisa karo .. And one More thing Our Life our soul our whole thing are sacrifice on Islam I don't Have any Fear of Death Because I know ALLAH Give Me Much Proud Than I think ALLAH Chose Me as Soldier to defend And Save me and protect me even Some of them even try to kill me . Alas! I respect christians because They Are Ahle kitaab and Islam says Ahle kitaab is Our Brothers..even Islam guide us love all creatures of ALLAH even animals birds plant every creature.. but Did you know I really disappointed to see this type of behave and What they can do with me and my Family 😢 Humanity is the first Thing we All human beings Must b Follow .. And as my short knowledge Every religion on this planet first teach about it .. But Now I think my knowledge or I may b wrong at this point after See this all

  • @jeremyfee
    @jeremyfee Год назад +4

    The pineal gland? I'm pretty sure the human soul is in the appendix... just kidding. Intriguing video. I wonder how much of this theory perhaps influenced Joss Whedon's view on vampires in his Buffyverse since he had the "demon" take over the body when the human soul was lost, but that soul could be found in the ether and returned to unity with the body via magic.

    • @HollyRhiannonWrites
      @HollyRhiannonWrites Год назад +1

      Oh! Good connection. Had to jump in here as a Buffy fan haha
      That series definitely dealt with religious and philosophical elements so I wouldn't be surprised if Whedon was studying some of the greats while writing.
      That being said, the concept of a vampire being separated from their soul with it being kept elsewhere dates back to the first vampire, Ambrogio, who gambled away his soul and was then cursed and I thiink was touched on by Stoker as well.
      Joss expanded on the whole concept so well though as I'm pretty sure he was the first to deal with the soul returning to the vampire.
      Now I want to go rewatch Buffy 😂

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад +2

      I am pretty sure that is exactly what Descartes was writing when giving his "demon analogy" in Meditation two 😅😅 But that does sound pretty rad haha

    • @krisreviews
      @krisreviews Год назад +1

      This comment is so funny... both the pineal gland (I was thinking the same thing), and I just literally started a Buffy re-watch yesterday 😂

    • @jeremyfee
      @jeremyfee Год назад +1

      @@krisreviews Thank you. I hope you're enjoying Buffy again. Long ago one of my students had his appendix removed and began behaving very differently, thus my appendix joke. :)

    • @krisreviews
      @krisreviews Год назад +1

      @@jeremyfee ha ha ahhh yes the appendix... got it 😄

  • @thelifeandtimesofjames4273
    @thelifeandtimesofjames4273 Год назад

    in part i would agree with him. my body wants to eat cookies all the time, my mind knows that isnt wise. the battle goes on.
    seriously these videos are so hardcore!
    bloody optimist thinking there will be people around in a hundred years... hahaha.

  • @harleyannegrant8977
    @harleyannegrant8977 Год назад

    The Pineal Gland bit surprised me for two reasons. 1) that gland produces melatonin, and if removed causes sleep depravation and hallucinations. If anything, not having one could make a person more spiritual. And more worryingly 2) If all organs come in pairs, did Descartes have two tongues? Haha 👅🧠👅

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад +1

      On that second point, I thought the same. His language seems to jump from saying, the parts of the brain are two (left and right hemisphere) to then describing the sense organs. For that reason, I do the same here. Though there may be other interpretations, I took this to mean that our brain perceives everything in pairs from the sense organs that then come together at the center. So, though there is one tongue, both left and right hemispheres of the brain react to the sensation of taste, in which we experience a single sensation due to the gland. Though, this seems to conflict with what he states in Treaties on Man, that was not published in his life time, so I am interpreting as though what is in Passions to be his final conclusions. Or!! Maybe he did have two tongues!

  • @peteyeets
    @peteyeets Год назад

    union of yeets good stuff im paeing attention

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад +1

      HAHA I was just thinking this morning, "I haven't seen the Pete's Yeets comments in a while" 🤣

    • @peteyeets
      @peteyeets Год назад

      @@attention5638 yes many yeets to you

  • @thedreadpiratewesley2301
    @thedreadpiratewesley2301 Год назад

    Did descartes ever address like.. astral projection? if something can be separated theyre not truely joined in a union.. Id be curious what Jung thought about him.

    • @attention5638
      @attention5638  Год назад +2

      Though he did not directly address astral projection, a lot of our modern takes would definitely stem from his ideas--it would be really interesting to hear what he would say about that and "out of body" experiences. And yes! There is a fantastic book titled "Cartesian Philosophy and the Flesh" that takes a look at Jung's project, The Red Book and contrasts it with Descartes' self-reflective method.😊

    • @thedreadpiratewesley2301
      @thedreadpiratewesley2301 Год назад

      @@attention5638 That sounds right down my alley , thanks for the recommendation, Ill check it out.