Talkative Churchgoer Stalks Pastor Before Killing Secretary | Mary Jane Fonder Case Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @VonW0lf3N5t31N
    @VonW0lf3N5t31N 8 месяцев назад +101

    Imagine being so weird and annoying your pastor stops answering your calls. 🤔🤣

    • @mariekatherine5238
      @mariekatherine5238 7 месяцев назад +12

      I don’t think this is all that unusual. Pastors seem to be a magnet for weird and sometimes unstable women. I worked for a time in a rectory office and there were a few eccentric or strange women always wanting to speak with the priests, the young, good looking one in particular. There was only one who called for the old, grumpy priest, and she was calling to complain.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mariekatherine5238 lol. Oh dear. I honestly can't think of anything less attractive than a man of the cloth.

    • @TheHikingHoosier
      @TheHikingHoosier 5 месяцев назад +3

      Like Ned Flanders 😂😂

    • @potshrooms69
      @potshrooms69 5 месяцев назад

      Not that hard to believe

    • @triciajohansen7124
      @triciajohansen7124 5 месяцев назад +1

      He later felt that she needed to attend another church.

  • @rogercroft3218
    @rogercroft3218 8 месяцев назад +111

    "You can't deny what is going on between us."
    "Of course not. You're stalking me."

  • @zombrero7870
    @zombrero7870 8 месяцев назад +59

    12:35 "I think that Mary Jane probably was involved in her father's disappearance but there is no way to know for certain."
    Dig up the hole from hell

  • @JDoe001
    @JDoe001 8 месяцев назад +131

    Why haven't the police gotten with the tree cutter to locate the area that she called sacred? The body of her father's probably there and he needs justice!

  • @itchysheets1222
    @itchysheets1222 8 месяцев назад +155

    The pastor expressed concerns bc she was coming onto him. They told him not to worry about it.
    I hate when people say not to worry about somebody being inappropriate bc I always worry something like this will happen and in this case it did.

    • @elizabethhamm5320
      @elizabethhamm5320 8 месяцев назад +23

      Agreed. Churches are welcoming places but he had a right be free from harassment. If there’s one thing that Dr. Grandes videos have taught us it is that obsessions can be dangerous

    • @cynthiamurphy3669
      @cynthiamurphy3669 8 месяцев назад +3

      One preacher I listened to a few years ago said he NEVER counseled a woman about anything without another woman present, usually his wife. Either a preacher is in charge of his congregation, or he isn't, lol. I don't know exactly how it works with evangelical lutherans, but surely this pastor had some "supervisor" in the church hierarchy he could have talked to first and then brought this woman into the discussion. In fact, the other woman who cheated with married men (if this was church gossip) also needed some "counseling." See I Corinthians 5 KJV, where you can read all about how Paul had to chew out the liberal Corinthian church for not dealing with a fornicater (one who "had his father's wife"). In II Corinthians, Paul did relent after that church and the fornicator had suitably dealt with the situation. Today, I guess somebody is probably going to get sued or shot. Unfortunately.

    • @itchysheets1222
      @itchysheets1222 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@elizabethhamm5320 well heck, ma’am.

    • @itchysheets1222
      @itchysheets1222 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@elizabethhamm5320 they probably thought he’s a man he just needs to get over it, or she’s just crazy she means no harm, etc etc but I’m telling you, once people are brave enough to approach you sexually even though you’re not comfortable with it or it’s unwarranted then pretty much anything is possible bc they’ve already gone that far in their mind. Makes me sad bc what if that was my dad and he was uncomfortable with some crazy woman and a bunch of people told him to just get over it. Maddening but typical even today.

    • @ZP-xyza
      @ZP-xyza 8 месяцев назад +2

      Of course it will. People need consequences or they’ll keep going.
      The church is known for downplaying things like this.

  • @BaileyLondon27
    @BaileyLondon27 8 месяцев назад +74

    Dating married men is never the move

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 8 месяцев назад +14

      Understatement of the century.

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 8 месяцев назад +7

      I'm sure all those married men's wives found out while their husbands were questioned as to their whereabouts/alibis during the crime. The price of admission for stepping outside of your marriage is you will become suspect if your mistress turns up dead.

  • @TheD0m
    @TheD0m 8 месяцев назад +44

    "Grand Slam Revenge" This shouldn't have made me laugh so much, but here we are 😂😂😂

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka 8 месяцев назад +3

      Lol! I was half expecting to hear Moons Over My Hammy at some point. 🍳

  • @janefrost1856
    @janefrost1856 8 месяцев назад +73

    I really don't know how Dr Grande does this without bursting into fits of giggles, he's definitely practised the art of keeping a straight face

    • @Hillykarma
      @Hillykarma 8 месяцев назад +10

      I'm not sure of his background, but if he has a clinical background, clinicians often have great poker faces

    • @sharonhoyt2133
      @sharonhoyt2133 8 месяцев назад +20

      He does burst out laughing but edits it out. On very rare occasions he will add the "bloopers" onto the end of a video.

    • @Baysidemom2
      @Baysidemom2 8 месяцев назад +5

      he's a licensed therapist... I'm not sure if he ever had a practice or he's just taught and researched but if he actively counselled patients he's probably heard some shit

    • @BansheeVision6
      @BansheeVision6 8 месяцев назад +7

      I laugh so hard at the most inappropriate times 😅

    • @ThePrufessa
      @ThePrufessa 8 месяцев назад +4

      It's called dead pan humor. See: Adam Corolla

  • @shelleyhayton9251
    @shelleyhayton9251 8 месяцев назад +40

    I think there are more ‘unusual’ folk in Church because they’re lonely and looking for friendships - and usually Church people are more accepting of different’ people and those with habits that people ‘out in the world’ wouldn’t tolerate… and none of us are meant to judge x

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 7 месяцев назад

      Most Churches aren't that welcoming to normal people either. Often they just pay lip service to being welcoming. If you are a lonely person trying to make friends....church is a bad place. It should not be. None of my friends is from Church. Many traditional Churches don't practice fellowship at all. Service over....everyone outta here. No coffee in the foyer and chat. No they don't want that.

    • @Kathy-us6zx
      @Kathy-us6zx 7 месяцев назад +2

      You obviously haven’t been to some churches I’ve been to…..it’s a competition with clothing … who can sit in the front rows etc

  • @oNeGiAnTLiE
    @oNeGiAnTLiE 7 месяцев назад +4

    “ The murder part”. Always well timed!

  • @aes0p895
    @aes0p895 8 месяцев назад +73

    "Jane Fonder" sounds like a mid 2000s rapper reading a mid-80s workout VHS title.

    • @LimoneneDaddy
      @LimoneneDaddy 8 месяцев назад +8

      Lol!!!!

    • @lizbensoncox
      @lizbensoncox 8 месяцев назад +11

      I remember that VHS. It was a nice workout! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@lizbensoncoxyup, never ever found out what she said. Never had the sound on

    • @loum73
      @loum73 6 месяцев назад +2

      But Fonder ain't got a motor in the back of her Honder...

  • @kangkhita
    @kangkhita 8 месяцев назад +41

    The titles kill me every time 😂 "Talkative" lmfaaaooo Dr. Grande's deadpan humour is the best part of his videos.

  • @tinak6484
    @tinak6484 8 месяцев назад +8

    Okay, the “heart growing fonder” joke was outstanding!!😂😂😂

  • @tracyking5945
    @tracyking5945 8 месяцев назад +78

    I worry about how many Dr. Grande videos I’ve been watching lately. How he works so tirelessly without being tiring I will never know. Dr. Grande, I’m thankful you are a good addiction.

    • @rileyanderson7379
      @rileyanderson7379 8 месяцев назад +8

      Crystal meth

    • @motionoftheocean7524
      @motionoftheocean7524 8 месяцев назад

      Hehehehehehahahahahhahaahhehehehhehehehehhehehehehhahhahahahahahahahehehehhehe....😅😅😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😂​@@rileyanderson7379

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@rileyanderson7379I truly, highly doubt that idea.

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 8 месяцев назад +104

    Thank you Dr Grande for providing us with YEARS of great content. It's very much appreciated. 🙏🙏🙏

    • @gregevans6044
      @gregevans6044 8 месяцев назад +7

      Nicely put. Yeah, thank you, Doc. You’ve become the one constant in my life. I don’t know if I’ve missed an episode of your channel in a couple of years.

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka 8 месяцев назад +14

    13:33 _"...[prison] couldn't make the heart grow Fonder, but it could make the Fonder grow a heart."_
    I live for the wordplay.

  • @enjoystraveling
    @enjoystraveling 8 месяцев назад +31

    She did move from her city to help her parents when they were older. I really believe there should be more help for caretakers not just physical, but definitely emotional, etc..
    If her father and her were arguing, it, of course doesn’t dismiss doing away with him if that’s even what happened, but if you’re the only caretaker for someone who’s elderly, it’s very easy to get burned out and definitely the United States needs more support for caretakers even just emotional

    • @SomethingSomethingg
      @SomethingSomethingg 8 месяцев назад

      Not to mention the fact that it's quite obvious just from her behavior that Mary Jane suffered from a form of autism as well.

  • @ceilconstante640
    @ceilconstante640 8 месяцев назад +34

    The kind of person i avoid, step carefully around and pay attention to any cues of jealousy or vindictiveness towards me. In which case it would be better to go to a different church. Some scary people out there.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 8 месяцев назад +3

      Scary people at church.
      Try the workplace.
      There should be a whole channel for that subject.

    • @ceilconstante640
      @ceilconstante640 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@bluecollarlit in many cases yes. I lived 40 minutes north where I am now and attended 2 small country churches where the Pastors knew everyone and arranged activities among the members and everyone supported each other. If someone needs help, people pitched in. Obnoxious people didn't want to stay. The other church was really tiny and unpretentious.
      I think it's important to go to a church where people get to know each other and function like family and has a Pastor that will confront bad behavior.

  • @elizabethhamm5320
    @elizabethhamm5320 8 месяцев назад +23

    It’s my birthday today and I’m spending part of it enjoying your videos. I agree that having to listen to Mary Jane talk non stop should be classified as cruel and unusual punishment 😂. I definitely wouldn’t want to be her cell mate. She even creeped out hardened investigators.

  • @toolegittoquit_001
    @toolegittoquit_001 8 месяцев назад +41

    What are the odds of retrieivng a murder weapon from a lake ?? 😳

    • @jessieyork4508
      @jessieyork4508 8 месяцев назад +11

      Kid needs to pick some lottery numbers for his Dad.

    • @Vonononie
      @Vonononie 8 месяцев назад +17

      Ive seen magnetic fishing on RUclips and those guys pull up lots of weapons and ammunition. They have to call the police out and sometimes bomb squads. I had no idea this was a hobby!

    • @REDVETTExxx
      @REDVETTExxx 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Vonononiegoggling now. Sounds like a treasure hunt!😂😂

  • @nickid5210
    @nickid5210 8 месяцев назад +17

    I am never ready for your play on words😂... But I always look forward to your analysis. Thanks, Dr. G.👍🏼😊

  • @tamedshrew235
    @tamedshrew235 8 месяцев назад +16

    Doctor of Psychology, Master of the Pun

  • @fredthejunkman
    @fredthejunkman 8 месяцев назад +14

    Dr. G., your puns are killin' me.

  • @juancarlosmontes
    @juancarlosmontes 8 месяцев назад +13

    You're fun to listen to. Your jokes were wildly entertaining today! I would never hear the news stories because I intentionally avoid it all. You make them more than merely tolerable; you make them enjoyable. You and your wife have a blessed evening.

  • @aussiejewels
    @aussiejewels 8 месяцев назад +5

    "The (Denny's) Grand Slam Revenge," cracked me up!...:-)

    • @adriel7229
      @adriel7229 8 месяцев назад

      That's the one that got me, too!

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 8 месяцев назад +17

    I live near Springfield . I still wonder what happened to her Father!

    • @ZP-xyza
      @ZP-xyza 8 месяцев назад +2

      I’m wondering why they didn’t check out the “hole from hell”.. surely they know where that house is.

  • @WoodyWard
    @WoodyWard 8 месяцев назад +44

    Thanks for sharing your eloquent speculation on this fascinating case, Dr. 👍

  • @AshleyNord
    @AshleyNord 8 месяцев назад +9

    Dr Grande, HOW on earth did you manage to keep a straight face at 13:39 😂😂😂
    Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for the morning belly laugh.

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka 8 месяцев назад +1

      I'd like to see outtakes!

    • @AshleyNord
      @AshleyNord 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@annika_panicka me too! In some of his older content he used to sometimes put them at the end, they were hilarious 😂

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@AshleyNord Lol! Thanks - I'll have to check them out. For some reason I haven't ventured into the back catalog yet. It's amazing how well he maintains a straight face in the current-ish ones. Occasionally there's a glint of a smirk (but not a smug one), but his deadpan delivery is so dry. He must enjoy himself coming up with the references to [I forget which story this is] Denny's, Billy Joel songs, etc. And the puns in the thumbnails are award-worthy!
      On a slight tangent, the tone of the delivery and the spiel of the intro and outro are so consistent from video to video you would think he's editing it in but he records it anew each time as evidenced by his shirts-that's hard to do! Maybe he's lip-syncing. 😉 Paging RuPaul...🏁

    • @sarahjaye4117
      @sarahjaye4117 6 месяцев назад

      @@annika_panickaI thought he had one at the end of that rude lady judge who got busted texting in the courtroom 🤔

  • @TNtime865
    @TNtime865 8 месяцев назад +18

    These people live among us.

    • @lisbethbird8268
      @lisbethbird8268 8 месяцев назад +4

      I know someone almost exactly like her. Even down to the cluster b mix. I broke off all contact because of the talking. I'm pretty sure it was a psychotic symptom (pressured, tangential, disorganized speech) but it was enough to drive *me* to trauma response. No exaggeration. She could not stop or control it, but with her it seemed more episodic. Obnoxious, intrusive, attention seeking, aggressive, vindictive, competitive, yep all of the above. Glad she's on the opposite coast from me. She phone stalked me with breather calls and hang-ups for about a year.

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 8 месяцев назад +2

      Sounds scary.

    • @lisbethbird8268
      @lisbethbird8268 8 месяцев назад

      It was, but the scariest part was the inability? refusal? to have any insight. Zero.@@KaarinaKimdaly

  • @NvrDieNvrSurrender
    @NvrDieNvrSurrender 8 месяцев назад +100

    Stalkers are no joke! They are not only detrimental to the safety & well-being of their victims, but they really are deranged & dangerous. To me stalkers really are best defined as, it's only a matter of time before something bad happens...

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 8 месяцев назад +8

      They are very scary and I've unfortunately had a lot in my life. When I was homeless I would be stalked all around town, no matter where I went. It was shocking to me everytime I realized the same man was following me for weeks at a time, everywhere I went. I was thinking they were plotting to kidnap me. So then I would switch towns and pick up new stalkers. It's a dangerous world.
      But I trust in the Lord and I believe the Lord is the only reason non of them actually did kidnap me despite all the close calls I've had. Like having to sleep in front of a gas station under the cameras in fear of those men trying to harm me. Thankfully the cashier's agreed to me sleeping there after explaining to them my situation.

    • @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513
      @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513 8 месяцев назад +16

      Also, people who are severely jealous out of the blue!! Let us all please be on guard and protect yourself against snap jealous ppl. Do not IGNORE the mean things others do to people.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 8 месяцев назад +4

      She wasn't really a stalker though. She was just mental.

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 8 месяцев назад

      @@kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513 This is very true! When I first became homeless it was because my cousin's and their cult friends drugged me and I left before anything could happen to me and I got a DUI. I was in jail and lost everything I owned including my house, car and my job. Then I became homeless and was still around them because I forgave them. They are my family and I had nowhere else to go. My mom passed away and my dad wasn't stable and is an alcoholic. So if I wasn't doing it for myself then nobody else would.
      Well they tried to kill me 3 other times and the last time I was beat over the head with a metal baseball bat and drowned in the creek. I would have died but woke up under water while my cousin was holding my head under the water and then her boyfriend pulled me out of the water and told them to leave me alone.
      So I survived multiple attempts at my life due to 3 jealous women and their jealous friends. It's been 6 years and I plan on never talking to them or giving them any of my time ever again.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@cht2162What? She was a crazy murderous person who had gotten away with murder before. She was annoying, yapping all the time. If she was stalking the preacher, she'd be following him home, spying on him. She was just an annoying member of the congregation. She killed the secretary, not the preacher.

  • @TeaBooksandYoga
    @TeaBooksandYoga 8 месяцев назад +9

    Dr. Grande is THE Best! 🤩

  • @limeallens6160
    @limeallens6160 8 месяцев назад +37

    Dating married men = cursed life.

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yes but some women think that if a man is married, he must be more attractive, because he has someone. Single guys must be creepy because Noone wants them 😆

    • @carriefawcett9990
      @carriefawcett9990 7 месяцев назад

      Because its true unfortunately. Ive dated married men because i dont want a live-in relationship and all the tie down that goes with it. The single men in my town are single because they're creepy, and immature ​@@Dilley_G45

  • @itchiefeetadventures
    @itchiefeetadventures 8 месяцев назад +22

    *OMG! RIGHT-ON YES!* This is one of my ALL-TIME Top 5 FAVORITE *"True Crime's"* stories! Thanks Dr Grande.
    Another MUST-DO one is the Military Medal of Honor Imposter who tried to *"UNALIVE"* His Wife several times before being arrested & sent to jail. Only to have the state of California make Her pay Him Alimony when She divorced Him! Ugh, The Gull! Thankfully, She was able to lobby the legislature & get the laws changed in the state.
    Great Story! 😉👍❤

  • @mattlassen5948
    @mattlassen5948 8 месяцев назад +6

    Dr. Grande, that was an extremely concise, accurate, and entertaining evaluation of this case. You offered so many more details in less than 15 minutes than what probably amounts to at least 2 hours worth of videos from other sources that I've watched about this case in the past. Great job, per usual!

  • @mbb--
    @mbb-- 8 месяцев назад +8

    I just bought a true crime book about this case yesterday, and this video pops up in my feed! So weird!

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 8 месяцев назад +4

      What's the name of the book?

    • @mbb--
      @mbb-- 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@jkjives1786 Love Me or Else by Colin McEvoy and Lynn Olanoff

    • @mbb--
      @mbb-- 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@jkjives1786 I think YT is shadowbanning the book title for some reason. Title: Love / Me/ Or /Else. Authors: Colin McEvoy and Lynn Olanoff

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@mbb-- Thanks! I have had certain comments disappear for no good reason, even when I've posted them repeatedly.

  • @claire-christmas-august73
    @claire-christmas-august73 8 месяцев назад +8

    constantly learning
    from afar..
    another story
    i’m not familiar with.
    appreciate the delicate nature you show each case
    and your insight.!
    ☺️😊😃
    ~claire~
    brisbane
    queensland
    ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻

  • @mario-qi3yw
    @mario-qi3yw 8 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you Dr Grande for reviewing this case. You can always make me laugh. The police couldn’t get a word in edgewise.😂😂😂😂

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 8 месяцев назад +1

      I laughed, too,
      at that phrase.
      Todd Grande seems to not have a very high opinion of police, or at least of their interrogation style.
      I think it is always unwise to overgeneralize.

  • @Sotweetie
    @Sotweetie 8 месяцев назад +8

    I don't think I have ever watched a Dr. Grande video without laughing out loud at least once. The stories are messed up but he has the best dry humor.

  • @Taco_Raider
    @Taco_Raider 8 месяцев назад +11

    Interesting case to cover. Thanks, Doc!

  • @JinJinDoe
    @JinJinDoe 8 месяцев назад +24

    Was the 'sacred space' investigated for her father's corpse?

  • @SnipeSpine
    @SnipeSpine 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nobody noticed my man dropping bars from 2:55 to 3:07. The amount of sports puns there didn’t go unnoticed.

  • @nonofyabidnez5737
    @nonofyabidnez5737 8 месяцев назад +8

    The jokes just keep coming. Great work Dr. Grande!

  • @nancyjensen6409
    @nancyjensen6409 8 месяцев назад +8

    I enjoy your videos so very much. You outdid yourself with Denny’s grande slam! I especially enjoyed your references to golf ⛳️ as well. Please take care of yourself. 🎉❤

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 8 месяцев назад +1

      I almost spit out my drink at the Grand Slam comment!

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 8 месяцев назад +21

    I remember this case. She was very mentally ill, so many church goers are anything but moral. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💞💞

  • @neopachisia4563
    @neopachisia4563 8 месяцев назад +2

    I actually laugh aloud everytime I listen to you.. very therapeutic you are Dr.. 😂

  • @bonniedeaves422
    @bonniedeaves422 8 месяцев назад +5

    Yaassss i always love a low key reference to 'the murder part' - Love you guys in the podcast, interesting topics, great comraderie and intelligent banter will always be a winner! Oh and those tangents!!

  • @productioninquiries881
    @productioninquiries881 7 месяцев назад +8

    "She talked to them for 4 hrs, mostly about topics unrelated to Rhonda Smith's murder. The officers couldn't get a word in edgewise." That's right Mary Jane, distract and evade.

  • @nancyk3615
    @nancyk3615 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds like the character on Misery. I love your dry humor.

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just found out how helpful the playlist is! It divides the many many many videos into easy to search categories! So great!

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka 8 месяцев назад +3

    I think I've seen bumper stickers that say I'M NOT FONDER MARY JANE on cars from the 1970s.

  • @phylliswurm9473
    @phylliswurm9473 8 месяцев назад +4

    Good video. It was also said that her hair appt was actually an appt to get her wig styled. This also helped investigators with time line of opportunity.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 8 месяцев назад +4

    Good afternoon,Dr. Grande! I hope you're enjoying your day! Thank You!

  • @andrewl1024
    @andrewl1024 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Dr. Grande. I had requested this analysis because I knew Ms. Smith's brother during this horrible time. I'm very glad you were able to help share it with the world.

  • @Kell-ic7yn
    @Kell-ic7yn 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another great show Dr. Todd. I enjoy watching all your video's. Love how they are not hour's long.

  • @sophiaisabelle01
    @sophiaisabelle01 8 месяцев назад +4

    We appreciate your insights, Dr Grande. Keep working hard as always.

  • @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
    @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 8 месяцев назад +11

    Oh this case was crazy

  • @Azelia834Heather
    @Azelia834Heather 8 месяцев назад +20

    Thank you for another interesting true crime story.
    I believe Mary-Jane murdered her father. If her father had gone off to live else where he would have still needed and wanted his pension.
    Poor Rhonda 😢

    • @peggypeggy4137
      @peggypeggy4137 7 месяцев назад +3

      I think you are right. 60,000 is a lot of money to steal and she was broke. I think they would have found him. An 80 something man doesn't just go missing without a trace.

  • @sweeabn6736
    @sweeabn6736 8 месяцев назад +6

    When I was a Pastor in south Louisiana, there were people like this.

  • @m.f.richardson1602
    @m.f.richardson1602 8 месяцев назад +6

    I remember this story.
    Mental illness at it finest
    Thank you❤

  • @valleygirl2530
    @valleygirl2530 8 месяцев назад +1

    You made us wait till the end to work “Fonder” into your analysis.

  • @mandyjandliljasmr411
    @mandyjandliljasmr411 8 месяцев назад +6

    Have you covered the case of the St. Louis police officers who played a deadly game of Russian roulette, killing one of them? It would be interesting to hear your take on the case. Nathaniel Hendren and Katlyn Alix

  • @Simonisms
    @Simonisms 8 месяцев назад +2

    The golfing gags made me chuckle 😅

  • @psalmsreader7997
    @psalmsreader7997 8 месяцев назад

    Great analysis of MJ Fonder's mental illness. It just shows how seemingly harmless individuals can be super dangerous.

  • @dirtypatwalsh
    @dirtypatwalsh 8 месяцев назад +4

    Dr G. Is the best analyser ever💯💯💯✨✨✨😎👍✨✨✨

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 8 месяцев назад +6

    Dr. G is the most consistent RUclipsr who doesn’t simply repost other’s content but makes fresh, quality content on the regular. I always look forward to hearing him speculate on these bad people.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 8 месяцев назад +4

    Dr. Grande, I love your sense of humor!😂😂

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 8 месяцев назад +4

    I read a book about this Case. Thank You for covering it!

  • @susanmann5286
    @susanmann5286 8 месяцев назад +5

    "Par for the course..." LOL!

  • @nolaparker9574
    @nolaparker9574 8 месяцев назад +1

    I knew someone just like this. They cause so much trouble for you when you are just being nice.

  • @briskettacos
    @briskettacos 8 месяцев назад +7

    When you see a Mary Jane in the making, what do you do? How can you help them?

  • @MEL2theJ
    @MEL2theJ 8 месяцев назад

    Another brilliant analysis 💎 Thank you again Dr. Grande

  • @LoandaterBruggen-pm4de
    @LoandaterBruggen-pm4de 8 месяцев назад

    I always look forward to your videos. Your delivery of the cases is fascinating and riveting, but lightened with that touch of dry TG humour. We live in Jeffreys Bay, South Africa and we have extremely high crime rates, throughout the country, so a little light-heartedness around it is a useful tool to get by the tragedy 🌈

  • @cherylcalogero3330
    @cherylcalogero3330 8 месяцев назад +7

    Dr Grande....aka...Dr Cactus.! Sent with good cheer. 😉😘

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 8 месяцев назад +2

      If Roger Hargreaves was still on earth, he could write a brief bio,
      entitling it Mr. Prickletickle and make the character cactus-shaped and mustachioed. . .

    • @hannahmitchell87
      @hannahmitchell87 8 месяцев назад +1

      I suppose he is dry & prickly

  • @AltClev37
    @AltClev37 7 месяцев назад +1

    9:32 “Wizowski, you haven’t filed ya paperwork yet.”

  • @KaroBythell
    @KaroBythell 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sir , you have surpassed yourself today ! Re the Fonda growing a heart comment !
    Really appreciate your humour but also your understanding of the human psyche .
    Greetings from New Zealand : )

  • @kayzbluegenes
    @kayzbluegenes 8 месяцев назад +22

    @6:54 "Sorry, Mary Jane; the congregation is just fonder of Rhonda." 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 8 месяцев назад +5

      Oooo, that's a sadistic groaner.

  • @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513
    @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513 8 месяцев назад +6

    This is a very VERY great one! I know some ppl in their 70s starting to creep me the freak out acting like this lady...
    Thank you big time Dr Grande!

    • @kathyharmon2093
      @kathyharmon2093 8 месяцев назад +2

      She had mental issues long before her 70’s, he stated she had a breakdown at age 8

    • @geraldinenolan6312
      @geraldinenolan6312 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@kathyharmon2093 I agree. And I know getting older just means you stop 'hiding' your real personality. Hence me living my best life now!

    • @hannahmitchell87
      @hannahmitchell87 8 месяцев назад

      behavioural & emotional changes can be a symptom of dementia or Alzheimers. Please look out for these people if you can

  • @morgueann12
    @morgueann12 8 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, I'm from the Allentown, PA area, which is ~45min from Quakertown. Very interesting case.

  • @Ruby-wise
    @Ruby-wise 8 месяцев назад +3

    Yes…the nightmares,,just may be..“ mainly because of the murder part.” 🤭

  • @thetarottranslator
    @thetarottranslator 8 месяцев назад +3

    She was born on July 5th means she is a Cancerian.
    This just confirms what I've always thought about Cancerians. They're the absolute worst zodiac to exist.

  • @manewland1
    @manewland1 8 месяцев назад

    Another interesting analysis; thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 8 месяцев назад +9

    This is an intriguing case of jealousy, delusion and hatred.
    Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤

  • @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
    @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 8 месяцев назад +9

    She was bold for contacting Rhonda parents after her death

    • @sondragramse1770
      @sondragramse1770 8 месяцев назад +2

      I think she asked for Rhondas shoes. I saw it on Forensic Files or one of them.

    • @TheFJ61
      @TheFJ61 8 месяцев назад +2

      Deadly Women also did an episode on this story. Fonder was a strange unfulfilled person. Sad all around.

    • @jjoseph8298
      @jjoseph8298 Месяц назад

      ​@@sondragramse1770 made them an apple pie

  • @dex1lsp
    @dex1lsp 8 месяцев назад

    Your Trenton accent (which is, of course, adjacent to the Philly/Bucks Co. accent) is perfect for this one.

  • @Swansong321
    @Swansong321 8 месяцев назад +6

    Interesting title..I'm intrigued!🤔

  • @sirisaacnewton25
    @sirisaacnewton25 8 месяцев назад +5

    Appreciate it Dr👏👏

  • @hejnye
    @hejnye 8 месяцев назад +1

    the puns flowed with this analysis, oh wait, just opinion, thanks Dr. Grande

  • @ashleyparks1738
    @ashleyparks1738 8 месяцев назад +7

    Freak- there's 1 like her in every church

    • @shelleyhayton9251
      @shelleyhayton9251 8 месяцев назад +3

      I think it’s because they’re lonely and looking for friendships - and usually Church people are more accepting of different’ people and those with habits that people ‘out in the world’ wouldn’t tolerate…

  • @texasrefugee7888
    @texasrefugee7888 8 месяцев назад +2

    😊daily Dr Grande treat😊

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka 8 месяцев назад +2

    2:20 _"... delivering a Grand Slam revenge"_ 🍳 Nobody can drop a reference as subtly as deadpan Dr. Grande. As soon as Denny's was mentioned, I wondered how he'd manage to work Moons Over My Hammy into the video. It was the only signature dish that came to mind, but not even the master himself could make it sound relevant. He wouldn't want to be disrespectful or jeopardize his professional credibility.

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Dr. Grande, good afternoon from Southern California.
    This is a really creepy case. Mary Jane was exactly where she belonged. Though I feel sorry for her inmates. I also feel sorry for everyone at Evangelical Lutheran Church who had anything to do with Mary Jane.
    As always I learn something new from your videos.

  • @MEL2theJ
    @MEL2theJ 8 месяцев назад

    Loved the golf puns ⛳ Thank you Dr. Grande

  • @romanhollow2985
    @romanhollow2985 8 месяцев назад +4

    Unfortunately, these kooks are all around us.

  • @paul9156c
    @paul9156c 8 месяцев назад +36

    I heard "church" and knew immediately it would be crazy.

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 8 месяцев назад +4

      There are crazy people everywhere.
      Why should a church be the exception?!

    • @toddswarthout6064
      @toddswarthout6064 6 месяцев назад +1

      Edgy.

    • @seaotter72
      @seaotter72 3 месяца назад

      Hahaha no kidding!

  • @enjoynature5261
    @enjoynature5261 8 месяцев назад +113

    Mary Jane needed to smoke some Mary Jane

    • @Danko31
      @Danko31 8 месяцев назад

      I think she might prefer meth by the looks of it

    • @gretchenhughes9652
      @gretchenhughes9652 8 месяцев назад +5

      😂😂😂

    • @PalestinianAmerican
      @PalestinianAmerican 8 месяцев назад +2

      Nah. She's not a loser

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 8 месяцев назад +1

      SORRY, but marijuana is a bane to society and not a benefit, and ditto for other psychoactive drugs, including other drugs like ethyl alcohol and the Big Pharm promoted to the public ones.
      For the most part they are pastiche
      treatments for symptoms alone.

    • @charliechurch5004
      @charliechurch5004 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@PalestinianAmericanyep

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 8 месяцев назад

    Great choice of shirt, Todd. Color coordinates perfectly with the cactus. 🌵🌵

  • @DodgyDebb
    @DodgyDebb 8 месяцев назад +28

    Gosh I do feel sorry for her. If she’d gotten the correct care, she might not have become a killer. Sad case all around.

    • @kathyharmon2093
      @kathyharmon2093 8 месяцев назад

      And what would the correct care be?

    • @DodgyDebb
      @DodgyDebb 8 месяцев назад +2

      Help from mental health professionals.

    • @gabrielleandrew542
      @gabrielleandrew542 8 месяцев назад

      @@kathyharmon2093agree … just wondering … very difficult to treat such people … particularly when they don’t seek treatment

  • @sandyhamilton5295
    @sandyhamilton5295 8 месяцев назад

    I am a die-hard fan! You are the best, Dr. Grande.

  • @johnl5350
    @johnl5350 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Don't worry about it"
    -the initial response of every church scandal/crime ever.

  • @BrianCarney-wg7yo
    @BrianCarney-wg7yo 8 месяцев назад +1

    "The Hole From Hell", sounds like a book on the "New York Times", #1Best Book Seller's List....