That's close to 10:1 power to weight ratio. Absolut beast. I just purchased all original 67 bug with 1500 motor and had it dynoed. 37 hp to the wheel. Not bad for an 50 years old car and it feel so good driving her. I have 991.5 GT3 with 497 hp and Huracan LP580 spider with 580hp so no need for more cars with speed. Sometimes, it feels good to just chill doing 30 mph lol. Cheers
Well to put it in perspective, my '63 with a 2276cc basement build runs consistent 12.60's. I imagine it's making close to this power, probably a little less. Full bodied all steel and still only 1600lbs max. 1.90 60ft times with stock 165 radials and 1.59 with 6" slicks. All the weight over the drive wheels in the back equals killer holes hole shots!
I just read about a rallycross beetle with 4x4, using a modded porsche 915 transmission with extra shaft for front diff, it also used turbo and subaru legacy cylinder heads with 4 valves per cylinder and duel overhead cams; at 2.5 bar boost it had 500bhp and upset a lot of other more fancy car drivers!!
ya the float bowls are hanging between the 2 barrels of the carb.. its what takes up the space and holds the 2 barrels together providing fuel for both. there often regarded as having 2 carbs shareing a common bowl. i cant see the floats themselves if thats what your refering to because those are infact in the float bowls out of view unless you pull the upper plate.
I used to slip rubber tubing over the main air bleeds and use holley jets stuck into the tube. I had a set of air bleeds I drilled out so I could use the Holley jets and save myself some money and have jets avaliable to tune with. Once I tubed all the corrections togeather and ran the tube inside to an adjustable main jet for a Solex. It would change the mix on the fly, but it had to vacuum down all that tubing. they like fat in the middle and lean on top. I believe a set up close to the carb
@plasenciapedro I dare say it would be some sort of adhesive such as belt grip. From the looks of things, they were having traction issues which wouldn't surprise me seeing as Beetle's are so light which would also be why they had guys standing on the running boards
This this is bad ass! What people don't consider is power/weight, this thing would rip @ 162hp. Also these things are relatively cheap to build up compared to a modern engine. $6k would buy a cb performance 2332cc kit and some nice carbs and be running 200hp in a car that weighs 1800lbs. Do the math.
its owned by peter and paul harold,sponsered by autocavan. its in may 1997 volksworld, quite an old magazine. it has subaru legacy ohc heads and jawa speedway bike liners in porsche barrels! 450-500bhp on 2-2.5bar boost! its a rallycross beetle.
the car is tied down so they dont need to stick the tires to the dyno. they just want it to keep from bouncing around not to make it stick. they car is so light that it keeps bouncing. watch the video again and pay attention. like at the 0:07 mark when the car shifts
Think about that the engine in that thing is a design thats more than 60 years old. For ancient technology and a motor that small, 162 is pretty much incredible.
@lowlifelivin NO it was to get the tyres to grip because it was wheel spinning on the dyno..........if you were there you would have seen the dip in the dyno graph where wheel spin was evident
Austin Jones This car is probably not even in the 5.0 mustang category, you would need some work done to a mustang to put down lower ETs than this, i would guess this car has been 12.5.
Spencer Hall a stock 5.0 would be lucky to do a low 14... mods would be needed to keep up with this beetle. which is N/A. the amount of mods you have to do to get a mustang to keep up with it, either car will end up with the same equivalant, intake, cam, exaust, stroker. you would have to spend a lot more on the V8 though.
yes, thats what i was saying, but a foxbody mustang can apparantly do low 12s with bolt ons, rear gear and slicks, so i would say the vw is way more expensive to do.
i dont know how things are in the states (im in australia) but it would cost me about 1/2 the price to get a beetle to do 12s than it would to get a mustang to. 5-6k would cover the engine, id easily spend over 10k modding a mustang. not to mention buying the mustang would cost me about 8 beetles. but hey, horses for courses ...
@torino390 Theres usually a direct correlation between the speed of the engine and the cooling, i.e. the higher the rpm the faster the fan is spinning creating more cooling. i would imagine though if the engine was at high rpm for a long time then there would be a cooling issue.
you mean IDA look at the float bowls and how the linkage is mounted along with the spacing between the 2 barrels! my bets on 48IDA's possibly bored 51.50mm
Stock transaxle will handle 300hp if it's used sensibly. And 162HP in a bug would be a friggin' major adrenalin trip. More fun than a Mustang and here in NZ WAAAY cheaper to do the bug than the v8!
almost forgot, it had a garret T4 turbo, weighed 1030kg and ran A arms and macphereson struts front and rear. Theres another less radical one with a 1930cc running 48ida webbers and a 320 degree cam, 140bhp that one.
neat that's what I have 2276 cc but only 140 bhp on single Dellorto highway gears and 40 mpg highway with 14 gallon petrol tank and still strong for 20 years since 1984 freshen it up @ 253 k miles just put in new bearings etc and thinking of turbo charging it now >^.^
I'm not 100% sure on how they work but I do know that they were much more reliable then the first water cooled models because they were simpler. Also, they weigh less. I wish I could help more...
@MyLifeRSC i got no beef with england. my whole argument was there are better sounding cars than the vw beetle (in my opinion). high end italian cars for example sound good. with the right exhaust, a built KA motor sounds good. audi's 2.7T sounds amazing when paired with the right exhaust. i could go on for days. but in the end, your right, its preference.
Good day! The 4th generation Accord (1989-1993) had a choice of 4 different 4 cylinder engines, but no V6 was available for that generation. . . I think you meant the 5th generation which had a V6 (C27A4) as an option. But this car does look slick as it is; also you're speaking of water cooled engines which means running hoses and heat exchangers galore (otherwise you have nothing to cool those other motors).
I've just learned of a Beetle that has a roof chop, weighs just 700kg and, most importantly, has a Corvette engine in the FRONT. That's the way to do it. Back at ya, hate mongers.
is a customized engined or is an assembly from another car's engine? it still using the standar fan to cool the entire engine? i have a lot of questions!!! really nice car...
@hunterziegelmann my stepdad has a meyers manx with a stinger. he just purchased a different style exhaust and wants me to install it. sounds like ill be taking a bandsaw to the stinger soon lol ill try to remember to come back here and tell ya how it sounds
162 is not poor for a light car that's more about about the torque range. People need to learn hp isnt everything. Torque vs weight is where it's at. My Manx with the old vw 1.6l is fast as hell in a drag race or light to light around town. My only complaint about modified vw motors is overheating so now I'm shopping for a Subaru ej20.
i am building a rotary bug. dudes at rotary usa ported and built my motor. they said it should make 200-230 hp. i dont think i realized what i was getting my self into :) sick bug tho!
I've seen Air Cooled VWs making that kind of power run the 1/4 mile in the low 10's to high 9's. Keep in mind, that car probably weighs between 1200-1500lbs, max.
162 is not really poor at all. Its considered a really good hp number. You have to figure in the power to weight ratio as these cars are really light requiring less power to move it. 162hp in this car is like 300-400hp in a regular street car. With 162hp it should easily run 12s in the 1/4 mile.
That's close to 10:1 power to weight ratio. Absolut beast. I just purchased all original 67 bug with 1500 motor and had it dynoed. 37 hp to the wheel. Not bad for an 50 years old car and it feel so good driving her. I have 991.5 GT3 with 497 hp and Huracan LP580 spider with 580hp so no need for more cars with speed. Sometimes, it feels good to just chill doing 30 mph lol. Cheers
Hello I'm from Brazil and an admirer W's bug, congratulations for the work you do in your workshop, one day I will get close to these wonders.
Well to put it in perspective, my '63 with a 2276cc basement build runs consistent 12.60's. I imagine it's making close to this power, probably a little less. Full bodied all steel and still only 1600lbs max. 1.90 60ft times with stock 165 radials and 1.59 with 6" slicks. All the weight over the drive wheels in the back equals killer holes hole shots!
It's the best VW air-cooled sound I EVER heared!!!!
I just read about a rallycross beetle with 4x4, using a modded porsche 915 transmission with extra shaft for front diff, it also used turbo and subaru legacy cylinder heads with 4 valves per cylinder and duel overhead cams; at 2.5 bar boost it had 500bhp and upset a lot of other more fancy car drivers!!
Nice car . good sound . need straps to keep it on the rollers though.
ya the float bowls are hanging between the 2 barrels of the carb.. its what takes up the space and holds the 2 barrels together providing fuel for both. there often regarded as having 2 carbs shareing a common bowl. i cant see the floats themselves if thats what your refering to because those are infact in the float bowls out of view unless you pull the upper plate.
I got too excited watching this!
I used to slip rubber tubing over the main air bleeds and use holley jets stuck into the tube. I had a set of air bleeds I drilled out so I could use the Holley jets and save myself some money and have jets avaliable to tune with. Once I tubed all the corrections togeather and ran the tube inside to an adjustable main jet for a Solex. It would change the mix on the fly, but it had to vacuum down all that tubing. they like fat in the middle and lean on top. I believe a set up close to the carb
My pops had one that looks very similar to this one. Definitely in my top five cars.
Man that is one awesome bug! Makes my 1835cc '71 S bug look like a Daihatsu Charade!
it took 1 guy in the back seat and 2 others standing on her to keep her from leaving the shop....POWER!!!
Great looking bug.
this guy is crazy that's awsome
Sounds awesome! VW all the way! I like the tailpipe! I wish I could have a car like this :)
@plasenciapedro I dare say it would be some sort of adhesive such as belt grip. From the looks of things, they were having traction issues which wouldn't surprise me seeing as Beetle's are so light which would also be why they had guys standing on the running boards
This this is bad ass! What people don't consider is power/weight, this thing would rip @ 162hp. Also these things are relatively cheap to build up compared to a modern engine. $6k would buy a cb performance 2332cc kit and some nice carbs and be running 200hp in a car that weighs 1800lbs. Do the math.
Eric B
*_246 hp/ton_*
Wow this thing looks amazing , well done guys !
Ok, that makes sense, thank you for educating me...no seriously, thanks!
Geeze... That is damn impressive!
Curious what compression it's running and how thin the walls are.
its owned by peter and paul harold,sponsered by autocavan.
its in may 1997 volksworld, quite an old magazine.
it has subaru legacy ohc heads and jawa speedway bike liners in porsche barrels!
450-500bhp on 2-2.5bar boost!
its a rallycross beetle.
the car is tied down so they dont need to stick the tires to the dyno. they just want it to keep from bouncing around not to make it stick. they car is so light that it keeps bouncing. watch the video again and pay attention. like at the 0:07 mark when the car shifts
I always had respect for the beetles cuz they whoop ass. most people underestimate these cars..btw nice tie down straps...
My favorite bug on RUclips
Think about that the engine in that thing is a design thats more than 60 years old. For ancient technology and a motor that small, 162 is pretty much incredible.
That sounds so freaking AWESOME!! what was the peak rpm hit on the dyno?
Gorgeous car. Very nice!
No straps anywhere?
Sounds nice and sweet at high RPM's
if ur looking for the rallycross beetle its MAY 1997, small feature near front.
Show man..... amazing vw bug folks...
Absolutely awesome.
@lowlifelivin NO it was to get the tyres to grip because it was wheel spinning on the dyno..........if you were there you would have seen the dip in the dyno graph where wheel spin was evident
Can't just look at the hp. Most people think wow 162hp... That's it.. Look how much it weighs. I've seen some like this out running a 5.0 mustang.
Austin Jones This car is probably not even in the 5.0 mustang category, you would need some work done to a mustang to put down lower ETs than this, i would guess this car has been 12.5.
Spencer Hall a stock 5.0 would be lucky to do a low 14... mods would be needed to keep up with this beetle. which is N/A. the amount of mods you have to do to get a mustang to keep up with it, either car will end up with the same equivalant, intake, cam, exaust, stroker. you would have to spend a lot more on the V8 though.
yes, thats what i was saying, but a foxbody mustang can apparantly do low 12s with bolt ons, rear gear and slicks, so i would say the vw is way more expensive to do.
i dont know how things are in the states (im in australia) but it would cost me about 1/2 the price to get a beetle to do 12s than it would to get a mustang to. 5-6k would cover the engine, id easily spend over 10k modding a mustang. not to mention buying the mustang would cost me about 8 beetles. but hey, horses for courses ...
Spencer Hall A beetle is gonna be cheaper to get to low 12's.
162HP at the wheels is fantastic for a normally aspirated type1!!! Great job!!!! Can I ask what lift cam you used and what size throttle plates?
@torino390 Theres usually a direct correlation between the speed of the engine and the cooling, i.e. the higher the rpm the faster the fan is spinning creating more cooling. i would imagine though if the engine was at high rpm for a long time then there would be a cooling issue.
Flexing its muscles at 2:26. This car is hot!
@loveanianimeme
Stingers are a really high performance exhaust, yes. They actually give you quite a large amount of horsepower, too.
you mean IDA look at the float bowls and how the linkage is mounted along with the spacing between the 2 barrels! my bets on 48IDA's possibly bored 51.50mm
powerful little car!!!
Stock transaxle will handle 300hp if it's used sensibly. And 162HP in a bug would be a friggin' major adrenalin trip. More fun than a Mustang and here in NZ WAAAY cheaper to do the bug than the v8!
Yo yo ya , joy ride!
this is how I want my beetle to look in a couple months =D
Wow Way To Tie The Car Down There Buddy...Smart...
WAAAAAOOOOOOOOOO NICE MODIFIED NICE I LIKE THIS SOUNDD
stinger exhaust ftw :D
almost forgot, it had a garret T4 turbo, weighed 1030kg and ran A arms and macphereson struts front and rear.
Theres another less radical one with a 1930cc running 48ida webbers and a 320 degree cam, 140bhp that one.
fantastic!!!!!!
neat that's what I have 2276 cc but only 140 bhp on single Dellorto highway gears and 40 mpg highway with 14 gallon petrol tank and still strong for 20 years since 1984 freshen it up @ 253 k miles just put in new bearings etc and thinking of turbo charging it now >^.^
Wow, 163HP net, that's really good
probably some aerosol glue, see how they have to stand on it, they cant get the tires to stick to the dyno's roller the cars so light and powerful
I'm not 100% sure on how they work but I do know that they were much more reliable then the first water cooled models because they were simpler. Also, they weigh less. I wish I could help more...
@MyLifeRSC i got no beef with england. my whole argument was there are better sounding cars than the vw beetle (in my opinion). high end italian cars for example sound good. with the right exhaust, a built KA motor sounds good. audi's 2.7T sounds amazing when paired with the right exhaust. i could go on for days. but in the end, your right, its preference.
its just incredible to see a bug with all that work on it. I just
Still love this video
Respond to this video...Nice job on the chop, it is 'just right'!! Door panels look cool too!!
@pattyaaron A 49' Beetle gets 34HP at the Crank stock, not sure what model this one is but i hear the late 50's early 60's get 52HP at the Crank.
I'd say you'd be perfectly straight for owning a Beetle. I'm not sure if owning a Beetle was always cool or not, but they're cool now.
Good day! The 4th generation Accord (1989-1993) had a choice of 4 different 4 cylinder engines, but no V6 was available for that generation. . . I think you meant the 5th generation which had a V6 (C27A4) as an option. But this car does look slick as it is; also you're speaking of water cooled engines which means running hoses and heat exchangers galore (otherwise you have nothing to cool those other motors).
Amazing how light it is considering it need all those people standing on it to weigh it down.
That's a F*#@ing awesome ride.
All that for 162.8 horsepower. Fun
Is that guy sparaying traction compound from an aresol can? Cool,never seen that before.
I've just learned of a Beetle that has a roof chop, weighs just 700kg and, most importantly, has a Corvette engine in the FRONT. That's the way to do it.
Back at ya, hate mongers.
Awesome Bug
it's very very good..
Cool way to spread the armor all on your tires, hehe...
Still, power to weight ratio. = Insane!
Enjoyed the video, hope to get an engine close to that on my trike.
Haha @ 2:51 "Wanna borrow ma fingeeerr"
is a customized engined or is an assembly from another car's engine?
it still using the standar fan to cool the entire engine?
i have a lot of questions!!!
really nice car...
162 hp + 2500 pounds with driver = mustang killer
me gustoo...primer escarabajo que me gusta...no soy amante de esos autos pero este...esta muuuy bienn (y)
@hunterziegelmann my stepdad has a meyers manx with a stinger. he just purchased a different style exhaust and wants me to install it. sounds like ill be taking a bandsaw to the stinger soon lol ill try to remember to come back here and tell ya how it sounds
162 is not poor for a light car that's more about about the torque range. People need to learn hp isnt everything. Torque vs weight is where it's at. My Manx with the old vw 1.6l is fast as hell in a drag race or light to light around town. My only complaint about modified vw motors is overheating so now I'm shopping for a Subaru ej20.
No straps holding it in place is dangerous. If that thing comes off the rollers its gonna be a rocket out the door.
power to weight ratio = zoom baby!
i am building a rotary bug. dudes at rotary usa ported and built my motor. they said it should make 200-230 hp. i dont think i realized what i was getting my self into :) sick bug tho!
maan, I use to have a 1966 bug, sure miss that car.
ladies and gentlemen, Herbie's faster brother
Love it 😎
THE BEST BEETHE I LOVE YOU ...FOREVER !
love cobra's(: and VW's!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got that right!
I Love It! Saweeeet Ride!!
@TheTheTowel its a chop top...ur gonna have to take a few inches off the top
@The420Guru haha good catch, and funny
Ignoring basic dynomometer safety is usually contraindicated. Unless one ENJOYS those "OH SHIT!" moments.
Allen Dayton how else were they gonna get it to hook up?
I've seen Air Cooled VWs making that kind of power run the 1/4 mile in the low 10's to high 9's. Keep in mind, that car probably weighs between 1200-1500lbs, max.
162? really? seems like it whips out pretty quickly. I'd have guessed it was a lot more than that.
No problem man, just wanted help you out :-)
lovin that zaust!
@pattyaaron 50hp at the crank, about 35hp at the wheels.
@crazycolby68 I am simply amazed at the number of people who do this w/o straps with all the videos of cars coming off dynos on YT.
thanks you einstein knowitall
Sounds NAAAAASTY....
WOW! that is impressive. Berg carbs? What kind of RPM you top out at?
batman is back
Nice.
162 is not really poor at all. Its considered a really good hp number. You have to figure in the power to weight ratio as these cars are really light requiring less power to move it. 162hp in this car is like 300-400hp in a regular street car. With 162hp it should easily run 12s in the 1/4 mile.