I appreciate your review, no BS. I have ordered the 1301 Tactical with pistol grip Mod 2 in Gray, will be my first "tactical cool" shotgun and I'm 60. I hope Beretta sees this review and they hang their head in shame for not having a better foregrip, good points you made. Having to zip tie a pressure switch to a $1900 (that's what I paid) is crazy! Would like to see some range time comparisons between these two before you part ways with your M4, it looks so badass.
@@donculver8671 just trying to help others out and give insight where I can based off my experience. Try to be truthful so others can learn from my experiences. I hope you enjoy it and have fun with it! I wish gun companies would listen more to their customers. It blows my mind how bad of designs some of these companies put out and the lack of desire to improve. Most companies don’t take the civilian market seriously so they hardly listen to us. Yeah definitely some ridiculousness going on with these guns. Unfortunately it’s hard for me to get range footage,testing, and fun on camera because of the lack of free time I have for that. I really like the m4 but it’s way too heavy and long, which is why I’m switching to a 300 blk small gun. Sorry I won’t be able to get some footage for you.
I've owned both, and sold the Beretta 1301 Tactical Marine version due to the "feel". It was lighter, had more plastic parts, and didn't feel like it would last a really hard course. As a retired Marine I know that it passed the USMC Qual Criteria, so I kept the Benelli M4. After all, Marines can figure out how to destroy a Ball Bearing in a Padded Room, and the M4 Passed. Not only that, but we figured out a way to add an Additional Round more than Beretta Intended by Carrier Loading.
@@roostershooter76 Benelli is the best shotgun no doubt. It’s use in the military and how reliable it is. I still do prefer the weight savings because I’m a civilian and don’t need a “bomb proof” shotgun. Benelli was built for war, beretta was more a civilian tactical shotgun that can be used for combat. Although it’s plastic i think it’s still plenty reliable and wont break under most conditions. Both the beretta and benelli can be loaded 7+2 with the extra round on the lifter. Can’t go wrong with either in my opinion. I don’t think most civilians need benelli durability but I understand wanting the reliability for peace of mind. For me I benefit more from the weight savings. Hope that m4 is working out for you. Thank you for your service! 🫡🤝🏼
I picked up my Benelli M4 Gen2 model 11714 yesterday from my FFL and put 30 rifled slugs through it. It ran great. My first semi auto shotgun and my first 12 ga as well. Probably will not ever need to buy another shotgun to be fair. Thanks for the discussion on those.
@@Carnaln8ure That’s awesome man. Glad it’s working well for you. Yeah you right, the benelli is a one and done kind of thing unless you need some special hunting or competition shotgun. No problem. Happy to help.
Solid review; I can’t really compare the two as I only have the 1301 m2 in tactical form. One thing I wish beretta had done was added a bit of a heat shield for c-clamping that barrel starts to scream after about 15-20 rounds and can get toasty for sure. 1301 love the Lift when feeding; it’s just amazing and a huge fan of the new style trigger. Out of the box can run 7+1 and last a while without getting too tired (light weight) . Though I wish I had gone with the standard stock for that kickback feature that reduces felt recoil by 40% or so. Hindsight I suppose
@@Bubba_Fett_ thank you. I agree. Some top hand guarding would’ve been nice for c clamping. New lifter and trigger are awesome. Definitely hindsight. You learn as you go and then figure some things maybe aren’t the best option.
Excellent video, former owner of 2 M4 in the past, the 18.5 in and the 14 in version. Sold both , and now I’m again debating between the M4 Pro T and the 1301 Mod2
@@nazimL1011 Thank you, hope it helped. That 14 inch is pretty special. That’s an awesome shotgun, I’d love to have one of those. Both are great, can’t go wrong with either. You might like the gen 2 m4 t pro more because your used to the benelli m4s but if your looking for a change the 1301 mod 2 is a great option as well. Another new good option is the genesis gen 12. Very short and finally a reliable mag fed shotgun, expensive though. They go from 2,800-4,600 depending on which model and option you want. All the way from 5”-18” options. Last time I looked they were kind of hard to get your hands on but that might’ve changed. Hope you’re happy with whatever you end up getting.
@ Thanks a lot for that reply, the M4 Pro is what I was looking at. At the same time , the 1301 Mod2 is very attractive for few reasons . My issues with the 1301 is the price , and the long term reliability. The price is getting to close to the M4 which make choosing the 1301 harder , as I see the M4 as a superior product IMHO . the long term reliability and longitivtiy of the M4 is really what makes me lean towards the M4… I’m a sucker for any product ( any ) that was put thru it’s pace by the military and has a track record. Judging from the various reviews, the manual of arms of the 1301 is definitely a plus for the 1301… the M4 isn’t that intuitive to use. It might be for someone who trained with it in the marines for example, but for the average Joe like me, it wasn’t. Cheers 🥂
@ No problem. Depending on where you get it the 1301 would be hundreds of dollars less. Benelli m4 is superior for durability and reliability for a combat shotgun. I understand people’s desire for proven products, I’m that way too for most things. I like the beretta a little better because it’s lighter. Only real difference of manual arms for the 1301 is that it has the pro lifter which puts the lifter up out of the way which is really nice but other than that I don’t think it’s much different. Take care man 🤝🏼
To switch sides for the rear QD you take the rubber cap off one end and stick it on the other. If you want to take it out you remove the rubber cap and use two Allen keys and twist them off by unscrewing from each other.
Langdon has a heat shield now for the Beretta 1301 Mod 2, which also incorporates a cable management system and a modular switch mount for the Surefire SR07 tape switch. I currently have it mounted on my A300 and the only complaint is that the mount switch is subject to getting ripped off as it only attaches at the top of the mount. I have added a strip of 2-sided tape to secure the mount to the handguard at the bottom.
@@MacDorsai I saw that. Looks like a good option but that sucks about the switch mount. Yeah tape or zip tying fixes that. Shouldn’t need to fix a design though. Looks good overall. Does add a bit of weight too.
@@kodiakpb yeah I think you told me that or someone else to use those. Still haven’t got around to using those. Not a huge fan of elastic cards anymore but if I buy another set I’ll get those a try. Thanks for the input.
@@kodiakpb how are the vang comp cards different in retaining shells for long periods of time? Seems pretty similar to esstac and other cards. In my experience elastic hasn’t retained rounds well for long periods of time. Vang comp and others are close to the same price and both use elastic.
They are so much more beefy. It’s really purpose built, the elastic is super thick it really retains the shells securely over time while also enabling smooth extraction of the shells. You can feel the difference holding a vang comp in one hand and any other card in the other.
Do you have any idea how to remove the butt stock on this specific benelli M4 ? The user manual says that to do so you have to use more force on the button while pulling the stock but it didnt work
@@WoLF-xp3cy Unfortunately I don’t know, sorry. I didn’t try to remove it and I sold my benelli m4. It should be the same removal process as on the original m4. Only difference is that stock twists. I’m sure there’s videos on how to remove them on the original m4, try the method that they do in those videos.
Great review - super thorough and really helpful for comparison and thought before a purchase. In terms of the stock on the Beretta, you mentioned you wish you had gone with the standard stock vs pistol and I was curious aren't you able to switch out the stock if you want?
@@MrDonpipkin Thank you. I’m sure you can switch out the stock, I just haven’t looked into the process of doing so and I’m not sure of any potential downsides from swapping it.
Oh man that sucks that you are switching over to the Beretta. After personally comparing the two and owning the Benelli the Berretta feels like an airsoft toy. All the plastic and weight feels like I can break it in half. Not saying the 1301 isnt a good gun, im sure it is, but the Benelli is a tank and feels good and something that I know I can depend on. The 1301 doeant have a track record yet and still has to really prove itself. Hope to see more shotgun videos regardless which one. I think the shotgun is a slept on weapon system that is just absolute destruction and devastating power in the hands of a trained individual. Anyway, keep up the good work sir and keep them coming.
@@JohnDoe-zg6fn I’m used to polymer so it doesn’t really bother me much. Benelli is an awesome shotgun just more heavy. I prefer the weight savings. I’d be confident owning either of them. There both combat shotguns, benelli was just built more geared towards war. I agree, definitely a devastating weapon system. Will do, thank you sir.
@countryfirstusa9072 Sir, don't you ever take Rambos name in vain. If you think the Benelli m4 as a telephone pole then you sir need to lift some weights. The M4 is not that heavy and carries great and I have not had any issues with its size.
@@Bulldog75stp Unfortunately I gave it away with the gun when I sold the benelli otherwise I would have. Sorry about that. I still have the briley mlok handguard for sale if you’re interested in that.
@@justaguyandhisdog9328 I recommend aimpoint t2, p2, Trijicon rmr hd or Rcr. H2 is fine if you don’t care about NV settings and want to save like 70$. I personally don’t recommend holosun products, especially on 12 gauge shotguns. They’re not very durable or reliable in my opinion and the recoil impulse on shotguns is hard on optics. I also don’t recommend the original Rmr because of having to take the sight off to change the battery and the small window size. I’d be happy with any of those choices I mentioned. If you plan on taking the shotgun outside in any bad weather like rain, snow, mud etc, I recommend a closed emitter like the t2, rcr or p2. If your just keeping it inside for home defense or range trips, I recommend the rmr hd because of the slightly bigger window size and that your not looking through 2 pieces of glass. The rmr hd has been difficult for people to get their hands on due to it being out of stock. Cowitness or picatinny are both fine. Picatinny sits your optic up higher so your irons aren’t in your optic sight picture as much. You’ll only see a little of your front sight. This also brings your face a little higher on the stock. If you have the mesa tactical stock, you can adjust the cheek riser higher to bring your eyes inline with the red dot without adjusting your cheek/chin weld. I don’t think co witnessing or iron sights are necessary with reliable optics like I mentioned. But it is nice to have your cheek on the gun a little more and if you’re into backup iron sights, your irons are right there if your optic fails. Or you could just take your optic off if it fails. T2 is very expensive, but is a versatile option to harvest it off your shotgun if you wanted to. You will have to remove the rear iron sight if mounting the t2/h2 to the beretta. My overall favorite combination would be the rmr Hd on a scalarworks cowitness mount for home defense and range use. For out in the elements use, probably the t2 with a scalarworks cowtiness mount then rcr or p2. Can’t go wrong with either of these options. Just some stuff to think about. Hope this helps.
@@Captured-On-Camera-Reviewer I am not. I don’t think it’s worth the money and the concept doesn’t really make sense on an 18” shotgun like this. Usually people use the collapsing stock on shorter guns or guns they want to be able to stow easier like in a bag or compartment. I have no intentions to try and collapse this into a bag or put in a vehicle. Only thing I have a collapsible stock on currently is my 300 blk shorty sig rattler because I want to be able to put that into a back pack. Usually not big on collapsing stocks but they do have their place.
@@LosDoyerss Im not sure. I haven’t looked into polymer because it’s not very durable. Briley also makes a shorter version of the 3 gun hand guard that I have on there, that is lighter then the stock metal one they put on I believe because of its open top.
No, I don't believe there is a polymer handguard for the Benelli. All the forends I have seen have been metal. But there is a guy making a heatshield for the Benelli and it actually looks really good. His company is called RX Arms. If you go to the Benelli USA forums you can talk to him. He is a pretty cool guy and is quick to respond to people on there and he makes other good products for the M4.
@LosDoyerss Ok, so a bit of an update for you. GG&G just telease a new handguard for the Benlli M4. It is the same as the OEM hanguard but they have added multiple Mlok slots. The only issue is that it is 3d printed. Have not heard any feed back on durability, but GGG typically doesn't make crap products and their stuff is pretty good.
@GearAndGuns I don't know, I have seen the magpul one break with a flashlight on it with the 1301. I don't think shotguns do well with plastic handguards with items mounted to them unless it is a complete one piece design like the 1301 does. Too much stress and recoil.
Very nice shotguns Federal Flite Control #1 Buckshot is probably the best? Be very careful if you have one in the chamber, because shotguns have been known to go off even with the safety activated. That might just be pump action though?
@@jason4453 Thank you. I prefer and recommend 00 buckshot for self defense. More lethal round with bigger pellets. Less pellets also means less chance/less fliers. Federal makes 00 buckshot with flite control. I like Horandy critical defense 00 buckshot with their versatite wad. Both of those will work well. I haven’t heard of shotguns going off on their own. I’ve stored them with one in the chamber for years and hasn’t happened to me. Not sure what gun or which scenario that’s happening in. If the gun can go off with the safety activated or without the trigger being pulled, that defeats the purpose of those safety mechanisms. Probably a poorly designed shotgun for that to be happening or the gun is in bad shape.
@@GearAndGuns That might just be pump action shotguns, however I'm sure if your practicing the firearm safety rules it shouldn't be a problem. I've never actually witnessed it happen myself but I've heard it can. I only leave my pistols with a round in the chamber. Everyone's different though.
@@GearAndGuns Just make sure you rotate the round you chamber, because the way they make ammo now is to make it safer to where it probably won't go off after being struck from behind/chamberd so much. If you ever inspect the round you chamber it will likely have a little bump in the middle striking portion. If hit to much (chamberd) it possibly won't fire and thus be a dud. That has happened to me. Especially after using the same round as the chamberd round for so long. You definitely don't want that to happen to you. I would definitely make sure to fire the chamberd round every so often just to have fresh chamberd round every once in a while.
@@johnnyolivero711 it is nice that the benelli pretty much never needs cleaned. Although getting to 500 or 1,000 plus rounds on a shotgun would take a decent amount of time unless you’re shooting everyday. Benelli was built for war, beretta seems to be shifted a little more towards the civilian side.
@@aboutmyfathersbusiness6907 doubt that. The 1301 weak point is its gas cylinder o-ring. They dont last that long. Ones it goes bad the gun gets terribly gummed up causing stoppages.
@@countryfirstusa9072 not me personally, there’s plenty of documentation in the net, just on their design alone is pretty obvious what they can handle. The 1301 design is not anything new, its been around for awhile, people are just raging about it now cus of LTT.
@@vincentvega75 The benelli m4 gen 1 was used in actual combat by the marines for a long time and I think still is being used. It’s the previous model or generation version before the benelli in this video. The Gen 2 benelli black shotgun in the top of this video is an updated and improved version from the Gen 1. The benelli m4 gen 1 used in actual combat is not shown in this video. I’m not sure if the military will swap out their Gen 1 stock for the Gen 2s.
is there any real purpose for making a tactical shotgun have interchangeable choke? Nice to have the option I guess but why use anything other than the good old all-around IC choke?
@@arlynmanning9505Not really in my opinion. Unless you wanted to expand or tighten your group size for whatever reason. The IC has slight constriction. I think the ic is plenty fine for tactical applications. Changing chokes is more for hunting.
@@GearAndGuns, Whew! You had me thinking that I'm the world's biggest sucker considering I've got a 1301 Mod2 coming for $1699 + tax. I'm a happy camper again.....although I still can't look at myself in the mirror, but at least it's only because I'm ugly; Not ugly AND a rube. Enjoyed your video. Tks
It's wild how both of these don't come with better mlok mounting options for how expensive they are. The Beretta is particularly disappointing because their stock and handguard are AWFUL man. The Aridus and SGA makes it much more durable while keeping the same lightweight.
@@PandemicGameplay I agree. I was extremely disappointed with both of these supposed “new and improved” hand guards. Very lazy and terrible engineering. Beretta on the mod 2 just stole the same crappy hand guard off the a300 patrol and benelli made some ridiculous screw in picatinny sections on a short hand guard. Briley did a much better job on their hand guards. There is no reason at all that there should be other companies with sole purposes to specifically make aftermarket products to bring the shotgun up to the standard it should’ve been in when it was designed in the factory. I’ve seen a lot of this happening recently and it’s aggravating having to spend more money to optimize a build. I think it’s because companies don’t truly care and don’t take the citizen market seriously because they know people will buy it anyway. I actually like the mesa tactical pistol grip stock. The traditional field stock is awful I agree. Sling point is useless, only cool thing is you can install the kick off system. I had the sga on a mossberg 590 I used to own and that was a great stock.
@GearAndGuns I was debating on the mesa tactical vs replacing the stock with the SGA I went the traditional route, but i could see getting a mod 2 with the mesa setup and saving some money, it gets expensive real fast
I appreciate your review, no BS. I have ordered the 1301 Tactical with pistol grip Mod 2 in Gray, will be my first "tactical cool" shotgun and I'm 60. I hope Beretta sees this review and they hang their head in shame for not having a better foregrip, good points you made. Having to zip tie a pressure switch to a $1900 (that's what I paid) is crazy! Would like to see some range time comparisons between these two before you part ways with your M4, it looks so badass.
@@donculver8671 just trying to help others out and give insight where I can based off my experience. Try to be truthful so others can learn from my experiences. I hope you enjoy it and have fun with it! I wish gun companies would listen more to their customers. It blows my mind how bad of designs some of these companies put out and the lack of desire to improve. Most companies don’t take the civilian market seriously so they hardly listen to us. Yeah definitely some ridiculousness going on with these guns. Unfortunately it’s hard for me to get range footage,testing, and fun on camera because of the lack of free time I have for that. I really like the m4 but it’s way too heavy and long, which is why I’m switching to a 300 blk small gun. Sorry I won’t be able to get some footage for you.
Same here but I have a year on yah.
@@GearAndGuns Funny enough in my profession as an architect if you don't listen to your client you get fired!
@@donculver8671 they know there going to sell it regardless so they don’t really care. That’s how a lot of companies are recently.
How has the 1301 been?
I've owned both, and sold the Beretta 1301 Tactical Marine version due to the "feel". It was lighter, had more plastic parts, and didn't feel like it would last a really hard course. As a retired Marine I know that it passed the USMC Qual Criteria, so I kept the Benelli M4. After all, Marines can figure out how to destroy a Ball Bearing in a Padded Room, and the M4 Passed. Not only that, but we figured out a way to add an Additional Round more than Beretta Intended by Carrier Loading.
@@roostershooter76 Benelli is the best shotgun no doubt. It’s use in the military and how reliable it is. I still do prefer the weight savings because I’m a civilian and don’t need a “bomb proof” shotgun. Benelli was built for war, beretta was more a civilian tactical shotgun that can be used for combat. Although it’s plastic i think it’s still plenty reliable and wont break under most conditions. Both the beretta and benelli can be loaded 7+2 with the extra round on the lifter. Can’t go wrong with either in my opinion. I don’t think most civilians need benelli durability but I understand wanting the reliability for peace of mind. For me I benefit more from the weight savings. Hope that m4 is working out for you. Thank you for your service! 🫡🤝🏼
All my friends get giddy when they shoot my m4. Marines best friend apparently.
I picked up my Benelli M4 Gen2 model 11714 yesterday from my FFL and put 30 rifled slugs through it. It ran great. My first semi auto shotgun and my first 12 ga as well. Probably will not ever need to buy another shotgun to be fair. Thanks for the discussion on those.
@@Carnaln8ure That’s awesome man. Glad it’s working well for you. Yeah you right, the benelli is a one and done kind of thing unless you need some special hunting or competition shotgun. No problem. Happy to help.
Solid review; I can’t really compare the two as I only have the 1301 m2 in tactical form. One thing I wish beretta had done was added a bit of a heat shield for c-clamping that barrel starts to scream after about 15-20 rounds and can get toasty for sure.
1301 love the Lift when feeding; it’s just amazing and a huge fan of the new style trigger. Out of the box can run 7+1 and last a while without getting too tired (light weight) . Though I wish I had gone with the standard stock for that kickback feature that reduces felt recoil by 40% or so. Hindsight I suppose
@@Bubba_Fett_ thank you. I agree. Some top hand guarding would’ve been nice for c clamping. New lifter and trigger are awesome. Definitely hindsight. You learn as you go and then figure some things maybe aren’t the best option.
Excellent video, former owner of 2 M4 in the past, the 18.5 in and the 14 in version. Sold both , and now I’m again debating between the M4 Pro T and the 1301 Mod2
@@nazimL1011 Thank you, hope it helped. That 14 inch is pretty special. That’s an awesome shotgun, I’d love to have one of those. Both are great, can’t go wrong with either. You might like the gen 2 m4 t pro more because your used to the benelli m4s but if your looking for a change the 1301 mod 2 is a great option as well. Another new good option is the genesis gen 12. Very short and finally a reliable mag fed shotgun, expensive though. They go from 2,800-4,600 depending on which model and option you want. All the way from 5”-18” options. Last time I looked they were kind of hard to get your hands on but that might’ve changed. Hope you’re happy with whatever you end up getting.
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Thanks a lot for that reply, the M4 Pro is what I was looking at. At the same time , the 1301 Mod2 is very attractive for few reasons . My issues with the 1301 is the price , and the long term reliability. The price is getting to close to the M4 which make choosing the 1301 harder , as I see the M4 as a superior product IMHO . the long term reliability and longitivtiy of the M4 is really what makes me lean towards the M4… I’m a sucker for any product ( any ) that was put thru it’s pace by the military and has a track record. Judging from the various reviews, the manual of arms of the 1301 is definitely a plus for the 1301… the M4 isn’t that intuitive to use. It might be for someone who trained with it in the marines for example, but for the average Joe like me, it wasn’t. Cheers 🥂
@ No problem. Depending on where you get it the 1301 would be hundreds of dollars less. Benelli m4 is superior for durability and reliability for a combat shotgun. I understand people’s desire for proven products, I’m that way too for most things. I like the beretta a little better because it’s lighter. Only real difference of manual arms for the 1301 is that it has the pro lifter which puts the lifter up out of the way which is really nice but other than that I don’t think it’s much different. Take care man 🤝🏼
To switch sides for the rear QD you take the rubber cap off one end and stick it on the other. If you want to take it out you remove the rubber cap and use two Allen keys and twist them off by unscrewing from each other.
@@kodiakpb ahh, easy enough. Didn’t spend much time on it but thanks for letting me know.
If it’s a star shape for the qd, it’s probably a torx bit.
Langdon has a heat shield now for the Beretta 1301 Mod 2, which also incorporates a cable management system and a modular switch mount for the Surefire SR07 tape switch. I currently have it mounted on my A300 and the only complaint is that the mount switch is subject to getting ripped off as it only attaches at the top of the mount. I have added a strip of 2-sided tape to secure the mount to the handguard at the bottom.
@@MacDorsai I saw that. Looks like a good option but that sucks about the switch mount. Yeah tape or zip tying fixes that. Shouldn’t need to fix a design though. Looks good overall. Does add a bit of weight too.
1301 has a self cleaning gas system as well
@@kvnjmz6188 your right. I forgot to mention that.
Yes but from what I’ve seen the beretta has more small parts compared to the Benelli m4 : 1014 ~
@@HueroRich that’s true.
@@HueroRichboth will outlast us all
GREAT, EFFICIENT, VIDEO THANKS
@@mikekoz4454 No problem. Happy to help.
Oh and use Vang Comp shell cards. You get what you pay for with “cheap” cards.
@@kodiakpb yeah I think you told me that or someone else to use those. Still haven’t got around to using those. Not a huge fan of elastic cards anymore but if I buy another set I’ll get those a try. Thanks for the input.
@@kodiakpb how are the vang comp cards different in retaining shells for long periods of time? Seems pretty similar to esstac and other cards. In my experience elastic hasn’t retained rounds well for long periods of time. Vang comp and others are close to the same price and both use elastic.
They are so much more beefy. It’s really purpose built, the elastic is super thick it really retains the shells securely over time while also enabling smooth extraction of the shells. You can feel the difference holding a vang comp in one hand and any other card in the other.
@@kodiakpb right on. Maybe I can give them a try sometime.
Esstac > all other shell cards
Do you have any idea how to remove the butt stock on this specific benelli M4 ? The user manual says that to do so you have to use more force on the button while pulling the stock but it didnt work
@@WoLF-xp3cy Unfortunately I don’t know, sorry. I didn’t try to remove it and I sold my benelli m4. It should be the same removal process as on the original m4. Only difference is that stock twists. I’m sure there’s videos on how to remove them on the original m4, try the method that they do in those videos.
Great review - super thorough and really helpful for comparison and thought before a purchase. In terms of the stock on the Beretta, you mentioned you wish you had gone with the standard stock vs pistol and I was curious aren't you able to switch out the stock if you want?
@@MrDonpipkin Thank you. I’m sure you can switch out the stock, I just haven’t looked into the process of doing so and I’m not sure of any potential downsides from swapping it.
Oh man that sucks that you are switching over to the Beretta. After personally comparing the two and owning the Benelli the Berretta feels like an airsoft toy. All the plastic and weight feels like I can break it in half. Not saying the 1301 isnt a good gun, im sure it is, but the Benelli is a tank and feels good and something that I know I can depend on. The 1301 doeant have a track record yet and still has to really prove itself. Hope to see more shotgun videos regardless which one. I think the shotgun is a slept on weapon system that is just absolute destruction and devastating power in the hands of a trained individual. Anyway, keep up the good work sir and keep them coming.
@@JohnDoe-zg6fn I’m used to polymer so it doesn’t really bother me much. Benelli is an awesome shotgun just more heavy. I prefer the weight savings. I’d be confident owning either of them. There both combat shotguns, benelli was just built more geared towards war. I agree, definitely a devastating weapon system. Will do, thank you sir.
Ok Rambo take it easy. Most civilians don’t like caring a telephone pole for defending
Your home .Beretta is the new goat
@countryfirstusa9072 Sir, don't you ever take Rambos name in vain. If you think the Benelli m4 as a telephone pole then you sir need to lift some weights. The M4 is not that heavy and carries great and I have not had any issues with its size.
Would you be interested in parting with the Aridus follower that's in the Benelli? I've been on their waiting list for months it seems.
@@Bulldog75stp Unfortunately I gave it away with the gun when I sold the benelli otherwise I would have. Sorry about that. I still have the briley mlok handguard for sale if you’re interested in that.
Optic you prefer or recommend? Aimpoint t2/h2, holosun 509t, trijicon rmr. Also cowitness or picatinny rail mount (t2/h2)?
@@justaguyandhisdog9328 which firearm are you mounting it to?
@@justaguyandhisdog9328 I recommend aimpoint t2, p2, Trijicon rmr hd or Rcr. H2 is fine if you don’t care about NV settings and want to save like 70$. I personally don’t recommend holosun products, especially on 12 gauge shotguns. They’re not very durable or reliable in my opinion and the recoil impulse on shotguns is hard on optics. I also don’t recommend the original Rmr because of having to take the sight off to change the battery and the small window size. I’d be happy with any of those choices I mentioned. If you plan on taking the shotgun outside in any bad weather like rain, snow, mud etc, I recommend a closed emitter like the t2, rcr or p2. If your just keeping it inside for home defense or range trips, I recommend the rmr hd because of the slightly bigger window size and that your not looking through 2 pieces of glass. The rmr hd has been difficult for people to get their hands on due to it being out of stock. Cowitness or picatinny are both fine. Picatinny sits your optic up higher so your irons aren’t in your optic sight picture as much. You’ll only see a little of your front sight. This also brings your face a little higher on the stock. If you have the mesa tactical stock, you can adjust the cheek riser higher to bring your eyes inline with the red dot without adjusting your cheek/chin weld. I don’t think co witnessing or iron sights are necessary with reliable optics like I mentioned. But it is nice to have your cheek on the gun a little more and if you’re into backup iron sights, your irons are right there if your optic fails. Or you could just take your optic off if it fails. T2 is very expensive, but is a versatile option to harvest it off your shotgun if you wanted to. You will have to remove the rear iron sight if mounting the t2/h2 to the beretta. My overall favorite combination would be the rmr Hd on a scalarworks cowitness mount for home defense and range use. For out in the elements use, probably the t2 with a scalarworks cowtiness mount then rcr or p2. Can’t go wrong with either of these options. Just some stuff to think about. Hope this helps.
Where did you get the QD cup for the Benelli? Mine didn’t come with one
@@TheJetlife94 it came with it when I bought it. Another guy didn’t get one and he said he contacted benelli and they sent him out one.
@@GearAndGuns sweet. Thanks bro
@@TheJetlife94 no problem.
is there a new version / gen 2 m4?
@@carlgauss647 Yes that’s what this benelli is. It’s the new version “gen 2”.
@@GearAndGuns are you going to add the collapse stock on the Beretta?
@@Captured-On-Camera-Reviewer I am not. I don’t think it’s worth the money and the concept doesn’t really make sense on an 18” shotgun like this. Usually people use the collapsing stock on shorter guns or guns they want to be able to stow easier like in a bag or compartment. I have no intentions to try and collapse this into a bag or put in a vehicle. Only thing I have a collapsible stock on currently is my 300 blk shorty sig rattler because I want to be able to put that into a back pack. Usually not big on collapsing stocks but they do have their place.
Does anyone make a lightweight polymer handguard for the M4? Besides the Truckee handguard.
@@LosDoyerss Im not sure. I haven’t looked into polymer because it’s not very durable. Briley also makes a shorter version of the 3 gun hand guard that I have on there, that is lighter then the stock metal one they put on I believe because of its open top.
No, I don't believe there is a polymer handguard for the Benelli. All the forends I have seen have been metal. But there is a guy making a heatshield for the Benelli and it actually looks really good. His company is called RX Arms. If you go to the Benelli USA forums you can talk to him. He is a pretty cool guy and is quick to respond to people on there and he makes other good products for the M4.
@LosDoyerss Ok, so a bit of an update for you. GG&G just telease a new handguard for the Benlli M4. It is the same as the OEM hanguard but they have added multiple Mlok slots. The only issue is that it is 3d printed. Have not heard any feed back on durability, but GGG typically doesn't make crap products and their stuff is pretty good.
@@JohnDoe-zg6fn that’s a decent design. Wonder if it would be durable enough to mount a flash light without it breaking off.
@GearAndGuns I don't know, I have seen the magpul one break with a flashlight on it with the 1301. I don't think shotguns do well with plastic handguards with items mounted to them unless it is a complete one piece design like the 1301 does. Too much stress and recoil.
Very nice shotguns
Federal Flite Control #1 Buckshot is probably the best? Be very careful if you have one in the chamber, because shotguns have been known to go off even with the safety activated. That might just be pump action though?
@@jason4453 Thank you. I prefer and recommend 00 buckshot for self defense. More lethal round with bigger pellets. Less pellets also means less chance/less fliers. Federal makes 00 buckshot with flite control. I like Horandy critical defense 00 buckshot with their versatite wad. Both of those will work well. I haven’t heard of shotguns going off on their own. I’ve stored them with one in the chamber for years and hasn’t happened to me. Not sure what gun or which scenario that’s happening in. If the gun can go off with the safety activated or without the trigger being pulled, that defeats the purpose of those safety mechanisms. Probably a poorly designed shotgun for that to be happening or the gun is in bad shape.
@@GearAndGuns That might just be pump action shotguns, however I'm sure if your practicing the firearm safety rules it shouldn't be a problem. I've never actually witnessed it happen myself but I've heard it can. I only leave my pistols with a round in the chamber. Everyone's different though.
@@jason4453 not a huge deal if you don’t keep one in the chamber for your shotgun. I do the same with pistols and keep my rifles un chambered.
@@GearAndGuns Just make sure you rotate the round you chamber, because the way they make ammo now is to make it safer to where it probably won't go off after being struck from behind/chamberd so much. If you ever inspect the round you chamber it will likely have a little bump in the middle striking portion. If hit to much (chamberd) it possibly won't fire and thus be a dud. That has happened to me. Especially after using the same round as the chamberd round for so long. You definitely don't want that to happen to you. I would definitely make sure to fire the chamberd round every so often just to have fresh chamberd round every once in a while.
@@jason4453 I’ll keep that in mind. Thank you.
@gearandguns - you still up for selling the M4?
@@GearAndGunshow much you asking for it? I’m in Texas.
Sorry I sold it
Sorry I sold it
I personally prefer the Benelli, the Benelli can go 10k+ without cleaning and still runs. The 1301 max is 5-1k.
@@johnnyolivero711 it is nice that the benelli pretty much never needs cleaned. Although getting to 500 or 1,000 plus rounds on a shotgun would take a decent amount of time unless you’re shooting everyday. Benelli was built for war, beretta seems to be shifted a little more towards the civilian side.
The Benelli also has a lighter recoil.
@@aboutmyfathersbusiness6907 doubt that. The 1301 weak point is its gas cylinder o-ring. They dont last that long. Ones it goes bad the gun gets terribly gummed up causing stoppages.
So you shot the M4 10k and the beretta 5k. .?
@@countryfirstusa9072 not me personally, there’s plenty of documentation in the net, just on their design alone is pretty obvious what they can handle. The 1301 design is not anything new, its been around for awhile, people are just raging about it now cus of LTT.
Did you part ways with the Benneli as of yet?, im interested.
@@ColeWorldNoSandwich Yes I did. Only thing I have left of it to sell is the briley mlok hand guard if you’re interested in that.
@@GearAndGuns Great on your part, I'll just get a new 1301 when I get my Christmas bonus, thanks for the reply.
@@ColeWorldNoSandwich No problem. Hope that works out for you.
@@GearAndGunshey man, I’m interested in that mlok if it’s still available.
@@robertjustice5995 Yes sir it is. Can you message me on FB Tim Stuckey? White guy in a black and white suit in the mirror.
Which one has been used in actual combat?
@@vincentvega75 The benelli m4 gen 1 was used in actual combat by the marines for a long time and I think still is being used. It’s the previous model or generation version before the benelli in this video. The Gen 2 benelli black shotgun in the top of this video is an updated and improved version from the Gen 1. The benelli m4 gen 1 used in actual combat is not shown in this video. I’m not sure if the military will swap out their Gen 1 stock for the Gen 2s.
Thank you Brother!
@ Happy to help brother 🤝🏼
is there any real purpose for making a tactical shotgun have interchangeable choke? Nice to have the option I guess but why use anything other than the good old all-around IC choke?
@@arlynmanning9505Not really in my opinion. Unless you wanted to expand or tighten your group size for whatever reason. The IC has slight constriction. I think the ic is plenty fine for tactical applications. Changing chokes is more for hunting.
Where can you find this for $900? It is twice that anywhere I look. I ain't no gun aficionado so I wouldn't know where to find deals.
@@nunchk9542 It was a speech error on my part. I meant to say $1,900. Sorry
I just bought both of these in Ca..I paid 5400 for both..
@@VinhNguyenf Wow that’s expensive. What’s the tax on guns in CA? What was the base price for each without tax? That’s cool you got both though.
I have black component setup I'd trade for FDE. Modlite head plhv2 or okw, arisaka 18650 or 18350 body, and surefire tailcap.
@@blakemoser1682 I sold everything on the benelli besides the briley 3 gun mlok handguard. Sorry.
@@GearAndGuns You had mentioned wanting black light setup on the 1301 in the vid. Only reason I asked.
@ Oh yeah sorry. Not interested in a trade right now.
Where in the world are you finding the Mod2 for $900??!!!
@@BBQBOY76 I misspoke. I meant to say 1,900$. Sorry.
@@GearAndGuns, Whew!
You had me thinking that I'm the world's biggest sucker considering I've got a
1301 Mod2 coming for $1699 + tax.
I'm a happy camper again.....although I still can't look at myself in the mirror, but at least it's only because I'm ugly; Not ugly AND a rube.
Enjoyed your video. Tks
@ Getting it for $1,700 is normal, I made a mistake. Glad you enjoyed it. Happy to help.
It's wild how both of these don't come with better mlok mounting options for how expensive they are. The Beretta is particularly disappointing because their stock and handguard are AWFUL man. The Aridus and SGA makes it much more durable while keeping the same lightweight.
@@PandemicGameplay I agree. I was extremely disappointed with both of these supposed “new and improved” hand guards. Very lazy and terrible engineering. Beretta on the mod 2 just stole the same crappy hand guard off the a300 patrol and benelli made some ridiculous screw in picatinny sections on a short hand guard. Briley did a much better job on their hand guards. There is no reason at all that there should be other companies with sole purposes to specifically make aftermarket products to bring the shotgun up to the standard it should’ve been in when it was designed in the factory. I’ve seen a lot of this happening recently and it’s aggravating having to spend more money to optimize a build. I think it’s because companies don’t truly care and don’t take the citizen market seriously because they know people will buy it anyway. I actually like the mesa tactical pistol grip stock. The traditional field stock is awful I agree. Sling point is useless, only cool thing is you can install the kick off system. I had the sga on a mossberg 590 I used to own and that was a great stock.
@GearAndGuns I was debating on the mesa tactical vs replacing the stock with the SGA I went the traditional route, but i could see getting a mod 2 with the mesa setup and saving some money, it gets expensive real fast
@ I wish I would’ve gone traditional but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Yes it does.