Crysis Remastered PC Review: Beautiful Tech, Brutally Limited Performance
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Join Alex Battaglia for the definitive tech review of Crysis Remastered on PC - a game that elevates and modernises much of the original game's technology, but at a cost of poor performance on today's CPUs... and some legacy tech debt from Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 that we really shouldn't see on a PC game.
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It just blows my mind that they thought reworking a stripped-down console port was the correct way to approach a remaster of a game whose reputation is built on being a PC technical showcase. Did they just think that people wouldn't notice all the missing effects? What a joke.
They didn't think this was the best approach. They know better. They did it this way because the PC version of Crysis was too different from the console versions already, so it would have been an entire separate remaster process to do the pc version right. Much cheaper to start at the same foundation for all ports/"remasters". Also, most cross-platform developers try to release an almost identical product across all platforms, I think, to appease Sony and Microsoft. Obviously the PC version could be leagues ahead of the consoles, but for Crytek "passable" is good enough.
They probably just hoped no one would notice, or maybe they knew they would get called out, so they released it on Epic to scrape every dollar they could and not have to deal with the open criticism from steam reviews. Absolute corporate trash.
GrandmasterofWin It blew my mind thinking that they chose a PowerPC version of the game instead of x86 knowing that current gen console and - of course PC are all based on x86 architecture. Mind blowing.
It is only because the console version was on a more updated version of Cry engine so going this route was less work for them. It really isn't that surprising.
Yerli got a taste of "dat console money" as we used to say. We knew it was gonna change everything back then, and well we were right. 2020 Yerli is a very different owner from 2004-2007 Yerli.
they don't care about hardcore PC auditory like never cause it's open platform, not some never changing box near your big TV on which from selling games , they get much more profit cause casuals keep buying them and there are 100s of millions of them
We want a remaster of the PC Original. 2020 got another disappointment.
I'm a console player and I'm happy that you're disappointed
@Helm DiDo Remake would be more like Resident Evil 2 Remake... A masterpiece. Remaster is just a bump or re-skin.
@@happybuggy1582 LOL, 'bout t' trigger sum gamer galz man!
Remake!
@@happybuggy1582 I'm a pc player and I'm happy your consoles will never be as good as a pc.
The massive CPU limitations were literally the only thing I wanted addressed. Good lord.
yes i just wanted crysis 1 + dx12 or vulkan + great cpu threading, that was all,
And the annoyingly strange lod for certain objects. Some pop in right in front of you, and others don't. Despite being same object
@@mauriciochacon ah but you see, crytek only gives a shit about consoles.
They did improve CPU usage, although not enough it seems
*Saber Interactive
Yes - this really is a 4K video, but once again, RUclips's encoders are running slowly. Watch now for the information, but to see this video at its best, check back later for full 4K resolution and improved 1080p60 image quality.
I watch on 360p 😂
You guys should know by now that the solution to this is to upload, then leave the video unlisted while RUclips processes the video. Then make public approx 2 hours later.
Finally ... been waiting for the Avengers analysis video too.
I feel y'all, but every week we have this happen and someone gives you the solution. DO NOT release the video before it is done processing in 4k.. I'm still not sure why you guy's have an issue when others don't ie LTT, MKBHD even someone like greg salazar. I dunno, sort it out mates 🤘🤗
@@MysteryD This is just me assuming, but I think they would rather just put the video out quicker because they know a large amount of their audience cares about the information more than what resolution the video is in. They probably also assume that we are capable of making the decision to come back later if 4k resolution is that big of a deal.
Why does Maximum Speed make you look like a damn bee? It's like someone slathered him in yellow paint. It's suppose to be very pale yellow, not maximum bee mode.
they made it easy to understand since remater is more kiddy version of not smart people... so they just turn the color up to the max..
buzz buzz - prophet, probably
@@campkira If you're going to make snarky remarks and call people "not smart", it would help if you at least could spell correctly yourself...
@@tbnzet midwit
:)))) so true!
It's almost as if this "remaster" is a PC port of the old, downgraded, last generation console port of the PC original. With cut content. Literally the worst of both worlds.
I don't understand why they made the water worse than the 2007 original, or even worse than Crysis 2 and 3 on PC. It may have better shading, but it's flat.
Crysis 2007 used something called FFT (fast fourier transform), where they could easily (and quickly) create "animated" noise-channels for height-maps and normal-maps once or at runtime, allowing the water to have natural looking waves both in 3d (geometry being displaced) and 2d (normal-maps creating more details on the water).
In Crysis 2 and 3 they kept some of this but added in a dynamic element to the water surface. Now the player can create ripples in the water by shooting it, stepping/swimming in it, or by throwing stuff into the water. All this while having the 3d waves from the "animated" noise-channels from the FFT and 3d ripples from the interaction by the player, etc.
But in Crysis Remastered all that is gone. Why? I can only speculate as to why, but I have a hunch it's gone because of the roots for the version they have "remastered".
It's essentially the 2011 console release of Crysis on Xbox 360 and PS3. There the water had to be simplified to it's flat and 2d nature seen in that release.
While the interaction with the water is still present, the 3d waves are gone. This was a console specific optimization applied to all Crysis releases, both 2 and 3 also had flat water on consoles.
Heck even PC had flat water in Crysis 2 until they patched DX11 support into the game finally.
It's not that the latest Cryengine doesn't support the water seen previously on PC, it's just something they either forgot or didn't have time to turn on.
Hopefully it's something modders can enable, or something that can be enabled with a simple console setting.
100% agreed. I knew that the water looked extra flat.
Well, there goes your possibility of getting invited back to the Crytek office. 😁
Seriously though, I'm puzzled why they made so many compromises in a remaster of a game that is known for bringing PCs to their knees.
Well it still does if 3080 can only manage 40 fps in 4k lol
I suspect because the remaster was by a different company and crytek were brought in to port the port of the original back to the original platform.
*"Seriously though, I'm puzzled why they made so many compromises in a remaster of a game that is known for bringing PCs to their knees."*
Why are you puzzled? We've known since Crysis 2 that Cevat Yerli is a greedy, dishonest genius. Crysis was both a critical AND financial success, surpassing expectations, and--last time I checked several years ago--selling 7M copies ON PC.
But he was butt-hurt that he only got large profits and not ultra-large COD profits, so he wrongly blamed piracy and swore off PC gaming in order to make deliberately mediocre console games. His company paid dearly for his greed. He went from success that any dev would envy to excreting telephone games.
You might think that a person would realize his mistake....would see that CDPR flat out proved you wrong about piracy....and maybe set a precedent by becoming the first AAA PC developer since the Great Consolization of 2008. But not Cevat Yerli.
Nope...After all, he insisted that Crysis 3 was the best Crysis yet.
@@DEVILTAZ35 if you saw the video, you would know it's the CPU that (fucking still) limits that. Obviously this is the Dev's fault.
I completely lost it during the intro LOL
It was golden
The church of Crytek :)
I found it during the intro..
Yo whats up
I don't get it
I'm going to buy the original on GoG and mod it instead.
That's definitely the way to go
I still have the disc, I wonder if I can mod it.
@@eliadbu sure you can
Honestly there are so many things that just look straight up worse in the remastered or feel downgraded. The whole colour grading is completely off and overdone just look at the island shot the greens and blues look horrible like Far Cry 1, vegetation physics/interactions aren't nearly as good, indirect lighting is often completely broken, volumetric lights either missing or broken, tesselation looks worse than in Crysis 3 and certrain textures just float above the tesselation, no volumetric cloud i mean come on it was one of the most defining features of Crysis and it even removes gameplay features and content.
In some cases the PS3 and 360 version even has better looking lighting and volumetrics.
The remastered is basicly just an excuse to release it on all consoles again.
All they had to do is just try to implement proper multicore and multi threading support to the original. I wish the whole "can it run crysis?" meme was never a thing because 99% of people don't even know why it runs so badly, the fact that the developers even embrace it is even worse while still having bad multi core support.
If you have a good PC just buy the original Crysis and it will look better even without mods.
I agree, original Crysis looks better in manu ways
Problem is level design. Graphics are fine. Level design effecting visual a lot.
You described so many details.
The remastered graphics are lot more detailed from a technical stand point, your opinion is yours alone and is objectively wrong.
However, fuckin A this game has always been an unoptimized mess lmao
Original crysis with ray-tracing would have been GODLY, but the visuals without RT are still extremely good
Between this and Halo CE Anniversary, Saber Interactive really do have a problem with respecting art directions.
I have to defend Saber (even though I don't want to) because MS gave them the broken gearbox PC port from 2003 to remaster. There was no way in hell Saber would even be able to fix all the issues the game has since it is known how broken the Halo game engine is (not to old bungie devs who knew it like the back of their hand but new devs who don't know all the bandaids to fix minor issues). Blame Gearbox and Randy.
@@tHeWasTeDYouTh Oh the problem I was mentionning on Halo CEA wasn't the issues, but the way they made the remastered graphic, that they had control over, and well, just like Crysis Remastered, it turned into an overbright and saturated mess!
I second you. They completely botched this port too from an artistic standpoint.
When you look at the remaster by bluepoint like SOTC or Dark Souls... Saber are tasteless amateurs.
@sgt dornan Yep I meant Demon Souls, thanks to correct me, and yeah my point is that Bluepoint are the standard of how to do it ;-) (Unlike Saber).
Can't say I'm too impressed with it. It's got the performance of a cutting edge graphical game like Metro Exodus, but with last-last gen graphics.
Yeah, Crysis 3 looks better
Yea metro performs pretty good actually lol
I mean it is a remaster of an almost 13 year old game, it isn't a remake.
My advice use mods for me there better and free
Metro performs way better too.
Interesting how I feel like at 12:10 the left or original looks like a real picture of a place whereas the right remaster looks like an HDR, too saturated
This game will not be getting my money. Half-baked half-assed release. I know Saber handled this remaster but I expect more from Crytek.
What do you expect from a bankrupt crytek smh
Yeah, Saber pulled the same crap with Halo:CE, built their port on an inferior version of the game (this time the PC was the inferior version), creating broken OG graphics mode, whilst trampling all over the original games art design
That sound effect at 21:50 legit scared the fuck out of me lol, I'm watching this vid with headphones and I kept hearing it throughout the video and I thought it was someone continuously ringing my doorbell in the middle of the night.
It's like Sonic Adventure DX all over again.
This is a remaster of a console port. not the original. I have now lost my hope for Crytek
The textures in the remaster pale in comparison to the modded textures you can download for free for the original game. The fact modders do a better job for free is another good showcase of the "quality" of this remaster.
These shoddy remasters coming out recently, e.g. Crysis and Super Mario 3D all stars, make me appreciate the fantastic work done by studios like BluePoint with games like Shadow of the Colossus and their up coming Demon’s soul remake.
3D all stars isnt a remaster though, its just emulating the games and increasing the resolution.
Frame pacing issues shit me . I wouldn't buy Super Mario 3d all stars for that reason.
@@Drilbit Which is what remasters are. Save for how emulation isn't commonly involved. Remasters run the gamut of botched port to more powerful hardware to higher res, more performant ports with more detailed textures and/or geometry.
So the "great" remaster is based on 360 console limited port. And these 30FPS animations - sorry not wasting money on this crap console port again.
That intro ;D i expected you to go all in Alex but damn, thats impressive!
I dont understand why they dont just run dx12 or vulkan instead of bolting it on to dx11, surely the wizards at crytek can handle those low level apis.. maybe its just tech debt?
Definitely tech debt, current Cryengine releases support DX12 and Vulkan so they have renderers already, probably just not ones that support the art and effects in the same way this fork of Cryengine does.
Hats off to you, sir, the amount of work you put into this analysis is commendable. Here is to hoping Crytek/Saber will take all your input and make the remaster better.
Knew something was wrong when I played day 1, getting a refund now, and letting Epic know the game is falsely advertised on their store.
We need a 14700K/14900K or X3D test. Also, disabling Hyper Threading might help because that last thread is a HT thread not the core thread.
How is this remaster, when they cut features from the original.... look how they massacared my boi
At 14:49 i was like, wow, this remaster looks insane, then i realised it was the original.
“Performance“
Me seeing 35 FPS 😱
@Deathtrooper204 doesnt have much going on? a whole real life city/country getting rendered is not much going on?
@Deathtrooper204 sure but flight simulator looks a next generation game, crysis remastered looks like the same crysis we had in 2007
Playing with objects, shadows and vegatation at medium made it 100% playable with everything else at maximum and raytracing on performance at 1800p on a Radeon VII. Thanks for helping me get rid of those 1/2 second pauses.
Color me umimpressed. Played the original a couple months ago. Im good.
okay
I also played the original awhile back. The graphics have aged very well. The gameplay is a mixed bag for me. Loved the stealthy gameplay against the soldiers. Kind of hated going up against the aliens.
Yeah. I don’t want to be overly negative but the original crysis is one of my favorite pc games so imma be harsh. Remaster looks like ass. CRYTEC I am disappointed, you took your most famous game you’ve ever made and did a half ass job. Super disappointed, this could of been the start of the rebirth for your studio but no you still can’t get your head out of your bum.
@@TheOne0816 yep. Aged very well indeed. I had a love hate relationship with the game, but i appreciated it was groundbreaking and held up excellently.
Why no one on youtube comments about the same leaves pattern for all the trees? with that broken leaf on every tree in the game.. this is so hard to my eyes!
This is such a lazy cash grab. Using DX11 instead of DX12 or Vulkan is a wasted opportunity to make things the wight way.
This remaster might have some new graphical effects, but overall, the original looks better. And with the right mods, Crysis original looks much better than this remaster.
Colors look to bright and over saturated. Most scenes are over lit, destroying detail in the world and characters.
And then there are the bugs, stuttering and performance problems
This is just a hack job, done in a rush to cash on nostalgia.
This is Crysis REFUNDED.
I am enjoying it on console but i could have waited for Series X release of it just to see what they could have done :) .
@Shreshta Jaiswal Short term money equals long term bankruptcy. It's these short term decisions over time that has put them in the place they are now. They should have thought about the long term consequences of their actions and the longevity of their fanbase. Pissing people off time and time again is not gonna be profitable.
@Shreshta Jaiswal In simple words : They are being dumbasses.
Why is the remastered so color saturated? It's so vibrant, Super Mario might just pop out in the jungle.
This must've been a heartbreaking video to make, Alex. Great job.
Another instance of Saber developing a remaster on top of an already gimped version of a game, see Halo: CE Anniversary and the Gearbox port. 🤔
Is it me or have the vegetation physics and animations been drastically decreased from the original? Things like grenades bending the vegetation and pretty limited physical interaction when walking past brushes and plants. This game is an unstable, blurring and poorly frame paced mess on ps4 pro and xbox one x. Edit (OK alex actually addressed this in the video,sux they used the ps3 as a base code for this game!)
yeah they cover how downgraded everything is. its because they ported the remaster from the xbox 360 and ps3 console port..
The original looks better in many cases
One of the laziest remasters I have ever seen. Literally just an absolute middle finger to the fans of the OG.
Mario 3D All Stars says hi.
Yeah, Saber does some of the worst Remasters...
Nice. I was trippen when I bought this because I was hitting 50’s-60’s FPS with rt on high 1440p. But sweet
I know its just a game, but I don't believe the flight deck of any aircraft carrier would be that reflective at night. It would be a nightmare to land on, even more then it already is.
though, the idea that they're remastering it kinda says like they're just taking advantage of the meme
bit upsets me because there's a lot of time poured into this remaster
i would've prefer them wait to do remake instead
probably a tech demo of their new engine yes? but it doesn't sell it to me, it's just unnecessary
it's 2020 and were now moving into the next gen of graphical fidelity and game quality
just look at the up coming demon souls remake, its just much better
This remaster needs a remaster
Is it Crysis: Demastered?
@@thel1355 Shut up and take my best comment award
for damn sure.
Crysis Reconsolised errrr... "Remastered"!, with most PC features removed and even some campaign sections missing, all that for arguably "improved" graphics while adding no gameplay/multiplayer improvements and introducing 10 times more stuttering than even the already super stuttering original Crysis! Also better Get a 3080 for 40 FPS later (with patches) or regret your purchase NOW! (This is truly Lazy and clearly just a cashgrab!)
@@ad24aug shut up and take a bit of good humor
I'll stick to the original, thanks. GOG version of course :)
K bye then
meee tooooo
After watching the video I conclude... The same thing. I'll take a hard pass on console to PC ports.
Retail version with crack is superior...said no one ever apart from me
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Why does that upset you Gejamugam?
In summary, we got a Crysis remastered console port.
Big yikes.
Maybe we will have the mess of something like Sonic Adventure DX again, a PC port from a console port, from a PC port from the original console port. Also, Star Wars's "Special Editions", an "Special Edition" from an "Special Edition", from another one...
Crytek wants to copy George Lucas's formula...
Unfortunately. Hopefully those visual problems will be patched out and controls become more responsive.
It's the inversion with identical results of when Saber "remade" Halo basing it on the broken PC port.
That's why is shit :( How sad :(
When we said we wanted Crysis 1 Remastered, we didn't mean Crysis 1 CPU Thread Blasted.
Or Crysis: Console Edition remastered. That's just fucking lazy
Youd be suprised to see how many people asked for game that would make hardware cry
@@Lord_of_Dread that's not lazy when being lazy would be just using the original PC version with few additions and calling it a day, remastering the console port for PC is just moronic and takes more work considering all the downgrades they now have to upgrade.
@@V-Jes well they probably did it because the console port is on a newer version of cry engine, so some of the work to modernise it was already done. My theory anyway
@@Lord_of_Dread console port is using cryengine 3 while the remaster is using cryengine 5.6, so no matter which version they port the engine would had been changed anyways.
Honestly amazed they released it like this. How could they not address the CPU issues? Absolutely misses the mark for me.
Plot twist: they did that on purpose to keep “can it run crysis” the most impactful hit yo performance
It was the main weakness of the original Crysis, they basically only had one job to fix this, everything else is not that important, what a fail
@@Mart-E12 This is not easy to fix. The whole game needs to be rewritten to use multi cores, its a completely different approach to program the game. And as they wanted it to release on console too, they took the already console optimized version.
a trash game release from a trash studio that's already known to be going down the toilet. Not paying employees, crunch, stale and out of ideas....yea Cryteck 2020 is != to Cryteck 2006. Hell I'd take Ubisoft and there shi* games any day.
@@thingsiplay Which is lazy to say the least. From a remaster I actually expected them to address the cpu issue of the original Crysis, because that issue's the ONLY aspect that kept me from playing it on modern hardware.
They "remastered" the 7th gen console port? How much do they despise the fans of this game exactly?
Lolz yes. Talk about not learning your lesson!
Not only that but console users don’t have the classic nanosuit mode. I hate the streamlined controls on console. It made sense for the nanosuit 2 on crysis 2, but it doesn’t work for crysis 1. We don’t get the full advantage of the modes that way. Console users can handle a damn mode wheel like doom eternal.
They are just funking with us.
Well the console port was also a port to the Cry Engine 3. Maybe it would have been a much bigger effort to base the Remastered on the original game and start from scratch.
@@KnightBX They could even make it so that you would swipe in different directions on the touchpad of DS4 to activate modes which would be really fast.
Crysis 2007 is so good, it even beats its own future remasters.
Future Past flashpoint Paradoxon...
Sad but true.
Can't remaster perfection.
Bad meme
Yeah it's perfect already, one of its kind... Cannot be make much more better... It's a remaster of 2011 one (a.k.a console Crysis) ,not 2007 we love and adore.
LOL 'its a port of the console version".
That pretty much tells you everything. SMH.
A port of a port... no wonder they hid it behind Epic on PC. If they released it on Steam they would've gotten their feelings hurt and then some
Yy it’s like taking a flac(audio) converting to an mp3 and then trying to concerting to flac again.stoopid
@@RyanBurnsRed its not cuz of that lol its all about the money
Ryan BurnsRed with Denuvo DRM as the icing on the cake.
Ryan BurnsRed no wonder they hide ascension mission
Very disappointing. A cash grab, in the end. Not getting my cash. I’ll stick with the original version thanks.
What? no sense by all means ,you should buy Crysis Reconsolised errrr... "Remastered"!, with most PC features removed and even some campaign sections missing, all that for arguably "improved" graphics while adding no gameplay/multiplayer improvements while introducing 10 times more stuttering than even the already super stuttering original Crysis! Also better Get a 3080 for 40 FPS later (with patches) or regret your purchase NOW! (This is truly Lazy and clearly just a cashgrab!)
pureevil29 nah it’s just a benchmark you can play if they really did remove features
Because it IS a cash grab, Crytek been losing money these few years which several projects of their fall under the radar.
@Ricardo Jaye Your specs sound fine for an old game like the original Crysis. If you haven't already done so, install it and play. Worst case scenario? Uninstall, lol ;-)
The isn't crysis remastered it's more like crysis disastered.
Crysis: Disaster Report Edition
I've really enjoyed it so far on Xbox One X have more than half the gamerscore of 1000 so far. It slows down at times but it's responsive enough for a console game. As i stated above the real issue was quality mode being too slow and Raytracing mode only working if you don't enable HDR. It's still one of the best games out this year easily.
@@DEVILTAZ35 it just going drive me insane with fps drop and up... for game that so old and just not that fun... by the time they get it working well.. it more like crysis 4 would be out before then...
What did you expect from. Company that tries to not pay its staff and then flee to Istanbul
I don't buy the whole "we didn't like that level" excuse. They just remastered the console version, as it already on a newer version on CryEngine. It being a port of the console version would explain why the character model look so poor. Just a port of a port.
The character skin textures looked so poor, I'm surprised they didn't leave them out of the remaster, as well. XP
Agreed. There was nothing wrong with the level aside from its performance issues. It controlled well, was relatively short, and served as a fun little diversion/rollercoaster ride leading up to the finale on the aircraft carrier. For them to completely rip it out, rather than _at least_ try and improve on it (since they claim to despise it) is telling. That's just one of many reasons why this "remaster" is both horrendously disappointing and a complete disservice to the original game.
Probably true, but who cares? That level was crap.
that level require more code change they just don't bother doing it.. like doing your homework and don't want to hard question...
The whole thing just screams lazy cash grab.
Remastering the game and basing it off the inferior console port rather than the original version is where they went wrong. Really bizarre way to go about doing it.
Just shows that their target market is again consoles - maximum return on investment for them. A heavily single threaded game with a "Can it run Crysis" mode is just a joke. Any game can rival Crysis if you do a bad enough job at optimization 🤷🏽♂️
The console ports are likely to have had the most recent code base and optimizations. All the missing volumetric lights, bad controls and limited physics point to a lack of time, care or competence in my opinion.
Ikr? That's the most frustrating part about this remaster.
Not impressed, it's a pretty meh looking title. 13:34 Since Alex shows this room so many times I have to say there are atleast 67 rooms and 93 passages in TLoU2 that look 3 generations ahead in terms of lighting and textures, that to on the base ps4. Bought this on the Epic games store for about 10$ so not disappointed, but quite underwhelmed with how it looks, good gameplay though.
@@NitinGopinathan Except console players mostly don't care about Crysis at all
I really wanted to be impressed, but due to the missing effects, leaves me really underwelmed. Such a shame :(
Oh well you can still chop down trees with a machine gun so i'm sold lol. The one issue i had with Far cry 5 is non destruction of trees lol
Lol we have the same dp
@@DEVILTAZ35 but even the remaster fucks that up as welll aka mod the game is beter than the remaster
So, basically they took a game that was a technical marvel for its time, created a garbage console port of it, then, some 13 years later, decided to make a PC remaster based off the garbage console port which resulted in the "remastered" version looking significantly worse than the original PC version... Wow.
hi you must be blind
@@kingzor100 ??
@@kingzor100 hi! you must be a fanboy
The game overall looks better, there is just these few things that are worse, but the SVOGI and high res textures alone make it look far better.
Ideally they would remake it from the ground up like bluepoint did with Demon's Souls. However I would still hope for better CPU utilization and them to recreate a few things missing from the PC.
Could you guys imagine Crisis with full path tracing for future proofing?
@@goncaloduarte4683 The skin rendering, lack of volumetric lighting, clouds and terrible physics is extremely disappointing since the original version had all those things. I have no doubt that the ray tracing looks great but to base a remaster of a game that was a Tech marvel for it's time off a stripped down console port is just mind blowing... Whyyy???
"Developers didn't like Ascension level, so left it out" - What they really mean is "It was also cut in the X360/PS3 version and we're not going through the hassle of adding it back in" - This launch is an absolute shit show and in particular a middle finger to the PC community. We know why you used the inferior X360/PS3 build. It's obvious it's so you can release it on the Switch as well. I'll stick to the OG version with mods. What could have been an awesome, return to form and a love letter to the fans has turned out to be a buggy, technical train wreck, on all platforms. Kudos to Alex for not wearing rose tinted, Crysis fanboy glasses for this and calling out all the bad stuff on this 'remastered' classic - What a 'Cry-ing' shame.
I support this message 100%. :) What a disappointment!!
Well said. I was pretty excited for this, but was waiting for DF'S full analysis before picking it up. Don't get me wrong some parts do look better. But I can't believe they didn't base this off the original PC version. Leaving out Ascension and the broken crouch button ruins it for me. Maybe I'll get it when it drops down to 5 or 10 bucks. But I could care less about playing it in its inferior state.
People complained about Ascension a lot when the original released, so it's not completely without basis. It's funny how people went from hating the level to missing it as soon as it was cut for consoles lol
Ok boomer
@@BobsRevenge I actually liked Ascension. I remember it vividly. My PC almost caught fire! :)
Btw - HUGE ups to Alex for being transparent and just blunt about this, no bear-hugging to Crytek, he tore it apart in a very non-biased manner. In fact.. you can almost hear his anger and frustration through disappointment.. which is legit.
He calls the bullshit out, and more than anyone you could've imagined him giving it the candy-coated pass, but he did the complete opposite which is AWESOME of him. Well done dude. But I disagree on the level cut, that's their PR bullshit for "we were lazy."
Besides that.. well done
Yes very professional, he clearly has more passion for the game than anyone at Saber Interactive.
@@chrisrichfield8906 Exactly. They did their thing it some areas, but yeah, basically. That's it in a nano-suite, I mean nutshell.
Good or I would've unsubscribed from their Patreon. I get Digital Foundry has a bunch of friends in the industry now and doesn't want to step on peoples toes but honesty and objectivity need to be the priority.
Of course.
Actually, I expected him of all people to be critical where it is due, because of his love for the game.
Absolutely disgusting releasing this with the CPU problems still there lol.....
And yet somehow this is on the Switch.
That's cause they didn't work on the pc version but on the console port of the x360 version. There's a lot of stuff that's missing. Missions, Lean option, music..
@@mesicek7 The other console versions are like that too, I think even the whole remaster is based on the Xbox 360/PS3 port
i finished the game already on live, the performance is still shit like the original i played in the same morning.
@@mesicek7 I was dumbfounded when he said that, why the heck are they working on the compromised console ports of the game instead of the OG product? Nonsense
So they based the remaster on old console ports and then couldn't even fix the CPU threading issue? JFC...
Honestly not impressed with the remaster at all. It's basically another botched console port.
It looks better than the original crisis
@@captainmalcolmreynolds1526 In some ways worse.
@@pferreira1983 Only in a few ways. Mostly skin.
Amazing breakdown, almost feel like DF spent more time comparing the Original than Saber did during development. There's far too many regressions to call this a remaster.
Is demaster a word? It should be a word
They just invented the word "Demaster" @Kinos141
Yeh was starting to think this, did Saber think no one was going to notice?! We are the MASTER race
uh they were comparing it to the console versions which is what the remaster is based on not the original....
And this crap was DELAYED? Imagine what state it was before the delay.
LICHDOM BATTLEMAGE console release state.
Honestly at some scenes the Original Crysis just looks so much better.
That was before the 8K textures and the ray tracing. It honestly would have ran better.
Before the delay they would've just released the Switch version on PC.
@@Pyke64 And that's the true. At least we got something a little better.
From the moment I saw that trailer I new that the game would still be single threaded limited.
That and the fact that the neon noir demo was running on DX11.
@DigitalFoundry and audience, I was able to speak with one of the higher ups at. Crytek about this remaster. The remaster was to be planed to be the showcase for the Cryengine 6, but because numerous delays, events, mishaps etc. it couldn't be and the management decided mainly because of financial aspects to only do a remaster of the original console version, the paned PC version was canceled, but luckily (?) forced by many original developers. The source did not say how. Unfortunately during the development of the remastered the dev team changed two times and it was partly done by Crytek Istanbul and outsourced, which is the main reason for the differences of the quality and design aspects and why for example the in-game cutscenes in the remastered look so boring in comparison. What was planed for the PC version and in perticular the "Can it run Crysis" settings was canceled too, other projects which are far more important (financially) caused this. So what it is now is basically cheating, they simply used high res shadows, textures etc., increased the number of grass and such, used only one lod preset, add more rays for the software raytracing and some other minor modifications. Planed was a similar thing as showcased in the UE5 tech demo for the PS5 just leveled up for PC, also things like an actual learned ai controlling the npcs, a realistic behaving weather simulation focused heavily on the wind and rain effects, which would have had massive effects on the foliage and other things, software and hardware raytracing combined and much more.
So once against Crytek's questionable management ruined something.
Pretty sad, reading this. :/
@@MrRobertVM Well it's Crytek, what to expect? I am anyways still amazed that they still are considering what they sanded and how badly they managed the company and not to forget how expensive game development in Germany, Frankfurt, is.
Their vision would've been incredible. Crysis always was more of a flag carrier than a mechanically impressive game, could've almost been a sandbox. That's most likely also why everyone likes the first half much more than the last.
Crytek: "We don't like the Ascension level".
Translation: "This is a cash grab remaster of a cut-down console port, what did you expect?"
The level was cut because player complaints not whatever you think
@@markss367 The level was cut because the xbox 360 and PS3 couldn't handle it. This remaster is based on that version of the game.
@@blacknova555 not exactly it was due to player feedback
@@markss367 oh I know what they said. I liked the level and would have preferred it to still exist. As many of my friends who care about crysis. I think it was a bullshit excuse.
@@blacknova555 i think the level shoud've been revorked to play better
So, what was the point of this remaster?
CPU? Still heavily single threaded
Better visuals? Ray tracing make the game stutter, the game is ported from the console version with many visual downgrades
to cover every market... i pass since it not a fun game...
And no Acsencion
@@campkira *"i pass since it not a fun game..."*
That's the fastest way to tell that a person has either never played Crysis (not the pseudo-Crysis 360 version), or is not an FPS fan.
I have replayed Crysis every 2 years since 2008, because its movement mechanics and weapon mechanics are still better than any other FPS game I've ever played. Combine that with the absolute freedom to achieve objectives instead of playing Baby Connects the Dots, and you have a solid, thinking-man's First-Person Shooter.
@7MGTESupraTurboA *"So don't blame "consoles" because Crysis 1 and Crysis Warhead DO NOT truly use dual core, tri core and never quad core CPUs..."*
What? No one ever blamed consoles for CryEngine 2 and Crysis/Warhead not being multithreaded. It has nothing to do with consoles. Talk about a Straw Man.
*"Crysis also NEVER used the Nvidia G80 Cuda Cores or Compute Stream Processors nor the Compute Units of AMD Radeon HD GPUs."*
What are you _talking_ about? It seems like you're implying that Crysis doesn't take full advantage of GPUs _either,_ which is flat-out nonsense. The first time I ever played Crysis was on my brother's NVIDIA 8500 GT, a miserably weak _low-end_ card. I had zero problems, and loved every second.
Several months later I built my first gaming PC with a GTX 260, and fully maxed out the game less than a year after release. Did I get 60 fps? Of _course_ not. 60 fps didn't become an expected standard until after the Great Consolization of 2008, when GPUs kept getting faster, but we kept getting the same 360 ports year after year. If I had been willing to run low settings I _could_ have done 60 fps, but I wanted to run on Ultra.
Crysis is an extremely customizable experience with a vast difference in performance between lowest and highest settings. Try the same thing with the typical console port of today, and you'll hardly see any difference in performance between lowest and highest settings.
This is such a disappointment on so many levels.....
Even on the one they left out
Not on the Ascension level.
Removing the Ascension level due to bad level design is BS and simply an excuse because they used the flawed console ports as the mold, Crysis as a whole has good continuity and the level design still aged very well, you explore water, air and ground in the original but not in the remaster?
Star masterc because it is a console port and it wasn’t in the console version, putting it back in would have taken effort.
@@saricubra2867 truly disappointing that they kept that level out, and the fact the game STILL under utilizes CPU cores processing.
1. The remaster team was console-centric in every way imaginable and did not reference the original PC game adequately, then Crytek's in-house remaster "repair" team didn't have enough time to go back and (comprehensively) tweak Saber's shortcomings, piece by piece.
2. That 2006-2008 Crytek dev team was comprised of some of the industry's absolute top technical talent, a real all star group of uncompromising programmers and engineers, and many of them have since moved on to other developers like Ubisoft, id, and Monolith.
3. Some of the shortcomings we see here are almost embarrassing, in terms of simply missing what made the original shine in those scenarios. Indicative of not enough 'legacy' team members remaining with a clear memory and respect for the minutiae of the PC original.
I know the id thing is true, because many of the level artists and lighting devs that worked on Crysis in 2006-2007 were in the credits of DOOM 2016. So... Yep. It's why that game can run at 4K/120 fps on ultra with a RTX 2080 super. Amazing looking game, awesome performance.
To be honest they never once said it was remastering from PC original. People just assumed that is what the focus was. They want to make as much money as possible so of course it's going to be console friendly. It needs a patch or two but it's not that bad even on XBox one X i love it lol
Crytek's Engine is a masterpiece. I know many hate Crysis 2 and Crysis 3, But to me all of the trilogy including Warhead are not just one of the but the finest of all PC FPS games to date, They were in loss when the first game came only on PC and pushed the goddamned HW to hell. Then EA got the rights and funded them but to push it on Console trash as well, the Crytek team did that and it was a failure of loss in all technological advancements from sandbox of the game to the art, setting of the plot etc. Crysis 3 addressed it to major extent by making the game again with lush foliage and other beautiful art pieces. Past that also they failed, EA funded that Crysis 3 as well, that was old EA anyways. The studio went bankrupt sadly and after Ryse and that C3 only a few AAA games made it, Homefront Revolution and Prey both still look fantastic than many games. The magic of that Cry Engine during those times is something remarkable.
That era is gone now, it's all political dogshit in games and MTX with console BR crowd appeasement.
@@lostalx Warhead was really good, and often gets lost in the mix when it comes to OG PC Crysis history. Warhead had a very tight campaign with some superb encounter set-ups and pacing, it ran better, and it had the satisfying premise of "What was happening in parallel to the events of Crysis on the other side of the island?"
@@lostalx ea had no control over the dev time of the crysis games they only has publishing rights.
Also c2 and 3 where good
What's the point of remastering an inferior console version?? THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL imo.
They probably had some reason for it. Maybe it was easier to work with since the console port already worked with cryengine three?
@@AmBush2048 Yep!
Crysis 1 PC - CryEngine 2
Crysis 1 Console - CryEngine 3
@@igorthelight guess they underestimated how bad they downgraded their console releases
the fact that a 2020 remaster of a game is worse in many ways than a 2007 original is baffling
Well to be fair 2020 is worse in many ways than 2007.
@@gustavrider5561 you've made my day, sir
@@gustavrider5561 i hope cyberpunk will make it so much better though
@@microsista1413 I thin Cyberpunk will be a huge let down
This remastered is trash, it inherits too much from those awful PS3 and 360 ports. Yes sure, some things do look better but what does, doesn't justify the purchase of this game in the state that it is right now.
*doesn't justify
Alex talks about this game as if it were his wife's body. He knows every inch of it.
I could too, just give me his wife.
Crysis Reworsened. "Hey, let's pimp up the xbox 360 version of the game a little bit!" What a bunch of morons Crytek have turned into.
This game don't deserve the 'remastered' tag. The original looks even better in some cases.
BTW I can't accept this is a port of the Xbox 360, aka port of a port.
Yeah.. I'm really not impressed.. looks kinda basic, especially the objects in the environment.
Well at least they didn't call it a "remake" I guess
@@Bestwick1983 Indeed.
Did you guys even watch the analysis? The xbox 360 had ray traced reflections and vogi as well as 8k textures? U are free to turn off vogi, thrn the colors are the same as the original ..
LaraC9 stop defending bad development.
40minutes? I would expect nothing less from Alex and his love of Crysis. Well done sir! I'm still putting the final touches on my own breakdown
Hi Nick! What do think about the remaster? I personally am not fond of the new art direction.
Alex is a corporate shill. Fans are not happy with this obvious cash grab. EDIT: There's nothing to "breakdown."
@@ionseven Have you actually watched it? Pretty harsh for a cash grab.
@@ionseven if there's nothing to breakdown for you, then why are you here commenting?
Hey @Nick930 love your history of video game franchises series.. keep up the good work.
The remaster even misses a whole mission.
@@msanchez1680d yes, that one.
Such a strange decision too. I actually really liked that mission, even with its problems.
Which one?
@@razvandavid1510 ascension. (the one where you fly a VTOL) I get some people don't like it but I really loved it. It adds to the story / buildup before the final boss.
@@Chriva Well, that's a crying shame. That mission was quite interesting and reminded me of Ace Combat series.
13 years later and they still don't know how to take advantage of all the cores and threads
cpu core is meant to be 1, thus it's name .-.
The remastered version is a remaster of the 360 version and not the PC version. That's why you can't lean and why the VTOL mission is missing, as well as some legacy features.
Yea, but it's the sam that they didn't add it back..
No leaning is a bigger dealbreaker than shitty performance, what were they thinking.
I watched the whole video but must have missed it. Why didn't they use the pc version to remaster?
@@MELK0R87 Probably because the console version of crysis was built on a newer version of cry engine which would have made it easier to "remaster", it just screams laziness to me.
No leaning? That's a bigger dealbreaker than all the graphical downgrades.
Original Crysis for PC looks better in a Lot of aspects ....
Did you know that in the original game the smoke from smoke grenades react to the blast from frag grenades?
I know. Absolute madness.
After seeing Demon Souls Remake gameplay demo this crysis "remaster" looks so bad!
how about mafia and mafia remake... that like a different game...
The Demon's Souls remake looks like crap as well. The atmosphere of the original is completely destroyed.
@@CaptainKenway Why play games if you are blind? Cant see how much better the DS remake looks...wooooow. I bet you think this Crysis de-master looks better....
This is a near unbelievably detailed breakdown. The definitive review for anyone wanting detailed information on the differences between the “remaster” and the original. Well done and thank you Alex!
God tier intro lmao.
I love this channel
The Crysis schtick is getting kind of old with Alex.
@@nickmotsarsky4382 Nah Nick, that intro skit was absolute gold in my opinion.
Same!!
I always loved all the professionalism of this channel, but i really appreciate how they make an exception on Crysis related videos with intros like this 😂😂😂
I guess you could say there were a lot of bespoke effects in the intro.
Holy crap you are still alive I used to watch your terrible generic gameplay vids when I was like 10
Crytek needs to stop taking short cuts. We need the original PC game remastered. Not the 360 / PS Pro version
Good point as it misses the Vtol mission which means even Series X updates won't have that either. I hope that is DLC eventually.
remake*
I kind of lost my hope on Crytek, to be honest.
DEVILTAZ35 I agree, and it would be akin to removing _The Library_ from Halo CE instead of fixing it to make it work. They seem to not want to fix the wonky vehicle handling and physics.
its way a money grab they knew it was not fin but crunched it to meet dead line shame
How can a remaster look worse than the original while performing terribly? Absolute trash.
By being even worse console in the basis
Warcraft 3 Reforged?
The remaster looks a lot better for most of the game, you have to pick out specific parts that look worse, which covers I'd estimate maybe 10-20% of the game during the first half of the alien sections and other spots littered around. Those stand out, but in general the remaster looks stunning, especially in the more forested areas most of the game takes place in. There are a lot of texture issues and bugs in the original that are no longer present as well, eg warping parallax occlusion mapping and lack of anisotropic filtering creating a muddy look almost completely without detail in the mid- to far-distance ground for most of the game. Terrible resolution ground textures that can be seen in random places over most of the original game were almost all given a huge facelift and are far more detailed. I've already beaten the remaster twice and did some comparisons to the original over the weekend, and the overall look of the remaster is much more pleasant and visually interesting due to the raytracing, global illumination, and grass shadowing. The lighting also pops a lot more and feels more accurate to the tropical location. People can say that the original looks more realistic due to a bias for the more subdued palate, but you can google Fiji or Guam and see that the remaster is more true to how a pacific tropical island really looks. The original looks very flat in comparison.
@@BobsRevenge the remaster is a joke
@@BobsRevenge actually 40% of game looks worse and if you count cutscenes 60% of the game looks worse than original. And they left out the most important feature from original which is leaning from corners.
Did you even watch half of the video?
Edit: and they deleted the entire mission from the game
Technical issues aside, this game is unfinished and thus not a faithful remaster. I really could not care if they “don’t like” a level, it should be there.
it's they're lame excuse day they were too lazy to remaster the orignal PC version which had the addition level. Since they were remastering the lame console port instead which had to cut the vtol level due to console technical limits. Not because "we didnt like it" as if that matter because it's ehat the fans like, not what they like. I sure as hell loved the vtol level, it was different, a break from all the running and gunning and i got to fly the vtol
Actually by that logic, alot of games are unfinished because devs "don't like" a level. Even games that you perceive as complete are missing something that wasn't released.
@@dgtldead its not the same dude, the level was released already part of the game and working fine. It wasnt some scrapped idea or level pre release. Its also obvious its a balant bs lie, because when they ported to 360 they said they had to cut that level because of technical limits. Now 10 years later since they were lazy and remastered the inferior console port and they had to re explain why the level was missing they just said it was cuz they didn't like it. I been playing Crysis since 2007 and followed and read up on the port releases.
@@jhnyjoejoe69 That doesn't change anything I said, nor you playing crysis since 2007. MANY games have content cut on re-releases. Mass Effect 1's dlc isn't in its remaster, does that mean its an unfinished game? Not necessarily. They may have their reasons, but the game is still very much playable. I'd understand more if the whole alien ship was missing and you wound up on top of the mountain with snow with no clue as to why, since that ties more into the story.
@@dgtldead Mass Effect Remaster is 3 games, of course the dlc doesn't fit. And im stating what they originally said when they ported the game to consoles and this "remaster" is based on that console port. It would have been extra work to start from the pc version, which is obviously they did not want to do, because it would've taken more effort. The new consoles are more than capable of running Crysis in it's full uncompressed best version with added retouches and enhancements. Mass Effect was already a console game so there is no superior verion they could have based the game off. You made a bad comparison.
So, another Saber Interactive's disaster it looks like. Don't let those guys to touch your games!
Crysis Remastered is a disappointment for sure. What is needed, is a Crysis Remake of the original (PC) Crysis.
Even if they remade it it would still be a console port.
@@ambassador.to.Christ Not really, if they actually made a full remake of the first game with the newest CryEngine build, it would already have GI, raytracing support, way better multicore support etc. Which in turn would make it run way better on consoles too, so they could focus on PC first and scale it to console after that.
@@kwedl I'm saying they would find a way to fuck it up because in this day and age consoles get priority.
Why would they remaster the “shitty console version” of Crysis? They literally had one job and failed miserably 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
yup its indicative of the fail upwards mentality of the modern world? have they lost some of the PC source code or the ability to comprehend it? why on earth start with a limited console port?
Probably because it's easier to port from CryEngine 3 than 2
@@omgawesomeomg True.
@@omgawesomeomg Then they should have rebuilt "CryEngine 3" without the cut features and better multitreading support. CryEngine 3, most likely used most of the Cry Engine 2 code anyway, so not much work in the grand sceme of things.
I'm disappointed by the remaster honestly. Like you Alex, I fell in love with Crysis back in 2007 and it launched a lifetime of interest in hardware, performance, and rendering techniques. The most disappointing thing to me is the lack of volumetrics, which was a HUGE deal back in 2007. SVOGI makes some great improvements to the overall look of a scene, but the implementation is messy. I often find light bleed or weird flickering indoors when standing in certain places and I found it's a screen space effect. The destruction was dumbed down, the sound is constantly glitching, random AI soldiers without weapons spawn in for some reason, the HDR doesn't work right, plants aren't as interactive, the new weapon menu is terrible, and the performance is in no way stable.
Why on Earth would you use the xbox 360/PS3 port as a starting point? They had to dumb down and remove soooooooooo many features to get it to even run on those consoles.
Anyway, enough complaining, let me contribute something useful. I'm running on an RTX2080 and i7-9700K with 32GB RAM. With this setup, I can easily stay above 60fps in 1440p on all high (RT Off). 4k is not practical with this setup. Ray Tracing in this game adds very little to any scenes, while costing 10% of your performance. I just turned it off since SVOGI isn't dependent on that option. I also found that if I have a browser open with Netflix or something on in the background, it can cause stuttering. Something I haven't seen in other games.
Honestly, it doesn't look that amazing. The original crysis still looks good.
I still think think the original crysis with mods looks better, specially the palm threes and most vegetation looks more realistic in the old one
I'm busy replaying the original, and I completely agree. Crysis didn't need a remaster.
Just buy the original and mod it.
Uh yeah that was the takeaway here; did you watch video? Or did you see the title, skim a few seconds to comment?
TLDR: Even with modern gimmicks, a port of a port isn't as good as the original.
Yeah turd is a turd, doesn't matter if put a sprinkle on it
This is like the 3rd clone in multiplicity.
Port of a port. … Probably why they put it on Epic Games Store. Wouldn't dare put it on Steam, haha.
Can’t polish a turd
They should have gone for a remake rather than a remaster.
It seriously couldn’t even reach 120fps at 720p for your benchmark? That’s unacceptable.
This is so dissapointing, Crysis was one of my favourite games of the 2000s
I waiting crysis:remaster:remaster:remaster:remaster it will be good
The remaster looks absolutely awful. The new lighting, including the raytracing, is a total mess. All anyone ever wanted was a version of the original game that runs properly on modern hardware, and maybe included some increased draw distance/LOD settings. Not this amateurish reworking of the entire look of the game.
Oh well i like it but was playing on console lol. I have original on PC i can play anytime and the 360 version which runs fine on Xbox one X. This is still better than the 360 version lol
The "Can it run Crysis" mode is just a stupid joke. Every game on the planet could simply make a setting without LODs.
But they haven't, don't they? There's always the limiting factor the devs want to apply in their game, where it is for consoles or not.
what does LOD stand for?
FrenchMercenary it’s a trick developers use to save memory bandwidth in a game by having very low polygon objects/textures in the distance instead of using the fully detailed asset. When you walk toward these low polygon LODs, the engine will “call in” the higher quality asset, and when handled well the player won’t even notice it happening.
“Can it run crysis” mode eliminates LODs, meaning objects and scenery in the distance retain all of the texture quality/shadow quality they would as if you were standing right next to them.
Personally I think it’s neat, but it’s an easy way to cripple any game on any system.
@@FourthExile LOD stands for "Level of Detail"
@@rorykeane3367 "Can it run Crysis" is just pointless, because you don't notice the difference anyway.
Wow there are a lot more negatives about this remaster than I thought. How on earth did they not design this around the original PC version? Just the crouch button alone is basically broken.
Ya that crouch thing is a pretty big red flag. like was there nobody on the team that played the original game? It's not like Alex was working on this game for the last year or so, but he still identified that issue immediately. No passion in this project, just throwing in the buzzword features like "8k textures" and "raytracing".
Because consoles suck duh
I'm not even disappointed... I knew it was the PS360 version from the get go; and aside from these, admittedly, spectacular ray tracing reflections; everything else looks to have been downgraded, hard, when in comparison to the original material...
Sh@t looks fake, as it lost it's natural appearance; graphical features were either removed or toned down drastically, the physics are far more limited and some animations restricted to 30 frames! ...and that flat ocean; don't even get me started on it; what a shame.
By the way, given that this PSBoxOne gen's hardware is similar to that of a computer; shouldn't it've been far less demanding on the team, to port the original version instead? Or were they too conserned about weather this underpowered gen could (or not) actualtualy handle the thing as it was before?
The original game was a single core, the 360/PS3 versions were more multi-core (even though not as much as it should).
The OG single core Crysis wouldn't work, it already drops to 30fps at times on the most powerful gaming CPU on very high settings, adding RT and higher draw distance would never work even on a 2040 PC.
Seems like demaster. Better to stick with original.
12:50 is just me or the old one looks better? The closer vegetation and the village at least.
yes it does, the color palette is so realistic in the og game
Its not just you it does look worse even more with mods on the og version
Thats due to the baked shadows in the original which are left out of the new one because they expected to being able to render that in real time at that distance. Sadly that isn’t the case due to the shit performance on higher draw distances
Older is better. Always and for everything.
@@CHA0SHACKER which shadows are baked in the og? i dont think there are any except maybe terrain
A joke of a remaster. And still missing the Ascension mission? Unacceptable for PC users.