Could spot the iphone quite quickly mostly due to lack of sun star, dof and sharpness but had actually mixed up the Arri and the Sony. Thanks for the video!
@@dauntlus_yt I actually shoot on an FX3! Having used it for a year now, that low light performance stands out to me more than anything with the camera. Cine EI 🙏
@@dauntlus_yt Also, the colours looked "Sony"-ish, so I immediately knew with the studio light as well, so it stands out with the low-light and studio light situations.
Easy giveaways are in colour, Arri goes a pleasing green, while Sony a fever red. Sony was easy to pickup. iPhones, even in LUt, have more detail, and "unfilmic" sharpness, so another easy one.
interesting observation , from what i see and hear everyone who hates sony complains that it’s too green tinted blah blah and canon is better and more natural “magenta” i’ve never seen someone say sony was a fever red, but in this comparison it was indeed less green
@@AtentieCadMere for me that was the case whenever i shoot a sony and arri. sony saturates red a lot and arri has a greener/yellow tint. i prefer the arri’s look that’s why i always pull down the reds when matching both of them.
@@blackcatooow for me the sony used to have that green sickly tint previously years ago in their cameras. now they saturate more red from my experience. 🙏
@@blackcatooow yes kind of. sony actually has some green tint as well but in the wrong places (in my humble opinion) good example is 1:39 in the sky, hard to get that balanced out
I'm so sick and tired of people including IPhones in these camera tests. The IPhone looked atrocious compared to the other cameras, even when the other cameras were crippled to try to make an even playing field. It was immediately noticeable that the C camera was the Iphone.
@@dauntlus_yt , definitely I thought that A was iPhone and C was the best one. It turned out that C was Iphone. I got iPhone 15 pro Max and now I fell in love with it again. So, I don't have a good eye for that. 🙂
@@kurshadqaya1684lol same here tbh! It’s crazy how everyone’s guessing it right here but me from a non filmmaking guys perspective, somehow iPhone looked really the best!
Great video! I guessed which camera belonged to each clip, though I have a very trained eye and have worked with ARRI and Sony a lot, and I’ve used the iPhone as my personal phone, so it's easier for me to recognize them. However, for someone else, they might all look surprisingly similar despite the very different prices, especially if you do good lighting, staging, color grading, storytelling, and all that stuff. Keep making such great videos! :)
maybe i am crazy, but i got all three right. redish skin tone was a give away for b being sony, c of course bad dynamic range and overly sharp edges (e.g. hair) which is an easy small mobile sensor give away, A just got those alexa skin tones, smooth highlight and consistent color across the board without any color casts in shadow areas etc (but tbh the shalow DOF of FX3 large sensor made it easier also)
The FX3 uses a lot of in camera noise reduction. If you shoot RAW on the FX3 its pretty noisy. The Alexa definitely has a much nicer noise floor. Of course you can get more usable night footage with the second base ISO on the FX3.
No matter how many times people make these comparisons, the Iphone is just not good enough for professional work. The inability to use different focal lenghts and the atrocious amount of processing that it does behind the scenes (notice the saturation boost, the highlight compression in the 1st shot and the noise reduction in the night scene) is just not professional. The iphone just makes you feel good about yourself because you can get good shots even without having any idea about the technical stuff because it just makes decisions for you. This is why it's an amateur tool. However, totally agree that the difference between an FX3 and an alexa mini is surprisingly little. I actually guessed them wrong in this example. At the end of the day the real difference is made by the build quality and the flexibility in post due to the superior dynamic range.
This was a cool test, I knew the A camera was the Arri because of the tones, everything was so flat that you could tell there was an insane amount of color depth and data in most of the shots, Camera B was the FX3 due to the midtones/shadows and how good the image managed in the low lights (Also I personally use an FX3 so I'm quite familiar with the look). Camera C was clearly the phone, you can tell even with the adjustments how the phone tries to auto balance all the colors, also it has a very distinctive wide shot that differs from the rest. I'm actually glad I got all these right, looks like I'm actually paying attention to the color details.
Is it possible to do these again with the LUT’s advertised for free by FilmRiot or use the ColorSpace Transform thing? I hate the standard Apple Log Lut from Apple. It looks just like the non-log footage with that ugly saturation and flat lifted shadows look vs the cst which for me is a better transformation.
Outdoor scenes are usually the easiest ones to match hard to determine difference except in highlight or shadows this is a bad test your color grading is completely off. With bad color grading it doesn’t matter what camera is used
It all really depends on how you grade. Your style lends to a wider range of cameras. My style really pushes my cameras. I recently got an FX3 to match my RED and it really doesnt compare. There is just no way an iPhone can even come close to my RED unless I made a very light grade.
А теперь представьте, если бы Apple с их разработками сделали беззеркальную камеру размером с FX 3, либо официалную возможность ставить большие объективы на телефон. Они бы буквально убрали бы всех конкурентов с рынка💀
It is pretty obvious which is the ARRI over the FX3 if you are a person who shoots ARRI a lot. However after color matching this isn't as much the case. Iphone is still obvious either way.
Yes! I got it right from the start! I just tried to look at the dynamic range and the sharpness. The fx3 was really close but in the first shot the sun overexposed looked slightly flat compared to camera A’s role off. Camera C was easiest due to the blown out sky, saturation, and sharpness. I’m surprised I guessed the arri and the fx3 on a phone screen though.
Arri had the most consistent look and best neutral baseline for further color grading, FX3 was kind of close ooc, but lots of baked in sharpness and vibrance which can be trouble in post if you don’t like it and it looks more like video than film, smartphone footage was obvious from the first frame. Now there are a lot of scenarios where you could see the difference in quality even more, like overexposing skin tones, harsh backlight, closeups of faces etc. Or one situation where I have seen sony footage fall apart is skin tones in mixed lighting situations for example. Try lighting faces with mixed tungsten and HMIs and under/overexpose the skin, it will look absolutely horrendous. Also lets not forget, we are watching this on a small screen over youtube, what about a cinema screen
That wider and softer look is Arri's recipe. Plus that magenta hue i knew B was the Sony. Obv C was a dead giveaway from the flares u find from phone videos.
I feel so proud of myself.... i have studied this cameras that i know all their footage at a glance, no matter how much you grade them. if you got them all right too you are an OG lets stop studying cameras and starts telling stories. see you on the big screen.
Not surprising at all that I kept favoring C and B and hated all A shots. Had a DP blow most of my budget on renting some Arri worth 300k, going on and on about how great it is, and how well trained and experienced he was, only to end up with shit footage even the editor couldn't fix. The BTS photos and videos on cheaper cameras and iPhones were far superior.
Для меня слишком драматичный сериал. Но музыкально сделан отлично, свет поставлен очень хорошо. Из последнего что прям очень мне понравилось это голодные игры, можно его разобрать.
Great video brother...although I do not agree with you completely...some parts i do..like it's important to have a story and lighting and sound design is definitely a lot more important however some shots or looks that you can get with a good cinema camera, you just don't get it from an iphone or let's say a vlogging camera like zv-e10...gear does matter at some point...great video nevertheless
Could spot the iphone quite quickly mostly due to lack of sun star, dof and sharpness but had actually mixed up the Arri and the Sony. Thanks for the video!
not many people noticed that! when I graded it, it was very apparent to me the sky lack detail in the iphone. Well done!
B looks consistently good, A looks just okay, and C is placed somewhere in the upper middle.
I was convinced B was Arri
I struggled with A and B but definitely knew FX3 was camera B with the low light tests
@@Astrac damn! first person to notice the better low light performance. i shot it at 12800 and brought the exposure down. kudos!
@@dauntlus_yt I actually shoot on an FX3! Having used it for a year now, that low light performance stands out to me more than anything with the camera. Cine EI 🙏
@@Astrac 🙏🙏 it was mind blowing for me when i first used it after using my alexa for years. so many new possibilities!
@@dauntlus_yt Also, the colours looked "Sony"-ish, so I immediately knew with the studio light as well, so it stands out with the low-light and studio light situations.
@@KeepAnOpenMind Seems like you know the FX3 really well! not many people could tell. Well done!
❤❤ thank you for video. Please make a color grading tutorial ❤ which film emulation is this
I'll make one in the future if you're interested. It's based off Kodak 500T film stock!
@@dauntlus_ytthank you so much. İ wait for it
@@dauntlus_yt i also like to see that please??!!! ❤❤❤
Easy giveaways are in colour, Arri goes a pleasing green, while Sony a fever red. Sony was easy to pickup. iPhones, even in LUt, have more detail, and "unfilmic" sharpness, so another easy one.
interesting observation , from what i see and hear everyone who hates sony complains that it’s too green tinted blah blah and canon is better and more natural “magenta” i’ve never seen someone say sony was a fever red, but in this comparison it was indeed less green
@@AtentieCadMere for me that was the case whenever i shoot a sony and arri. sony saturates red a lot and arri has a greener/yellow tint. i prefer the arri’s look that’s why i always pull down the reds when matching both of them.
@@blackcatooow for me the sony used to have that green sickly tint previously years ago in their cameras. now they saturate more red from my experience. 🙏
@@blackcatooow yes kind of. sony actually has some green tint as well but in the wrong places (in my humble opinion) good example is 1:39 in the sky, hard to get that balanced out
A. arri alexa
B. Sony FX3
C. Iphone 15 pro max
Is it true?
@@Gokill777 yes! well done!
i really enjoyed this video, i was pretty positive camera B with the arri and was really surprised that it was the fx3
@@bykody thank you! well when i was grading it i was also confused when i mixed the clips up hahaha
SAME
I'm so sick and tired of people including IPhones in these camera tests. The IPhone looked atrocious compared to the other cameras, even when the other cameras were crippled to try to make an even playing field. It was immediately noticeable that the C camera was the Iphone.
@@aboynamedjamil that’s because u have a good eye 👁️. for many of the people not into filmmaking, it could be hard for them!
@@dauntlus_yt , definitely I thought that A was iPhone and C was the best one.
It turned out that C was Iphone.
I got iPhone 15 pro Max and now I fell in love with it again.
So, I don't have a good eye for that. 🙂
@@kurshadqaya1684 The iPhone is a great camera if you use it well!
@@kurshadqaya1684lol same here tbh! It’s crazy how everyone’s guessing it right here but me from a non filmmaking guys perspective, somehow iPhone looked really the best!
I loved C and was suprised it was Iphone
Great video! I guessed which camera belonged to each clip, though I have a very trained eye and have worked with ARRI and Sony a lot, and I’ve used the iPhone as my personal phone, so it's easier for me to recognize them. However, for someone else, they might all look surprisingly similar despite the very different prices, especially if you do good lighting, staging, color grading, storytelling, and all that stuff. Keep making such great videos! :)
@@jorgenius.z exactly! we share the same sentiments and thank you!
I thought we didn't have to guess because the rest were going to be in the order you mentioned them - arri, Sony, iPhone. @@dauntlus_yt
@@oliverleslie7382 😂
Can you tell me the name color lut please 🙏
maybe i am crazy, but i got all three right. redish skin tone was a give away for b being sony, c of course bad dynamic range and overly sharp edges (e.g. hair) which is an easy small mobile sensor give away, A just got those alexa skin tones, smooth highlight and consistent color across the board without any color casts in shadow areas etc (but tbh the shalow DOF of FX3 large sensor made it easier also)
@@kwa42 yep you nailed it! all these things were apparent to me when editing too.
I didn't expect arri to be so noisy compared to fx 3 in low light
The FX3 uses a lot of in camera noise reduction. If you shoot RAW on the FX3 its pretty noisy. The Alexa definitely has a much nicer noise floor. Of course you can get more usable night footage with the second base ISO on the FX3.
No matter how many times people make these comparisons, the Iphone is just not good enough for professional work. The inability to use different focal lenghts and the atrocious amount of processing that it does behind the scenes (notice the saturation boost, the highlight compression in the 1st shot and the noise reduction in the night scene) is just not professional. The iphone just makes you feel good about yourself because you can get good shots even without having any idea about the technical stuff because it just makes decisions for you. This is why it's an amateur tool.
However, totally agree that the difference between an FX3 and an alexa mini is surprisingly little. I actually guessed them wrong in this example. At the end of the day the real difference is made by the build quality and the flexibility in post due to the superior dynamic range.
Well this vid can definitely proofs, that if your shooting skills and color grading are bad, no camera can improve it.
@@hohhan1978 you got it correct! 👍🏻
This was a cool test, I knew the A camera was the Arri because of the tones, everything was so flat that you could tell there was an insane amount of color depth and data in most of the shots, Camera B was the FX3 due to the midtones/shadows and how good the image managed in the low lights (Also I personally use an FX3 so I'm quite familiar with the look). Camera C was clearly the phone, you can tell even with the adjustments how the phone tries to auto balance all the colors, also it has a very distinctive wide shot that differs from the rest.
I'm actually glad I got all these right, looks like I'm actually paying attention to the color details.
Looks like you have a good eye for cameras!
i actually couldn’t tell between A and B for a while, i noticed the slightly lifted shadows in the outdoor shots and felt it could be the sony
@@blackcatooow even for me it was hard to tell which footage was which in the edit!
Is it possible to do these again with the LUT’s advertised for free by FilmRiot or use the ColorSpace Transform thing?
I hate the standard Apple Log Lut from Apple. It looks just like the non-log footage with that ugly saturation and flat lifted shadows look vs the cst which for me is a better transformation.
Outdoor scenes are usually the easiest ones to match hard to determine difference except in highlight or shadows this is a bad test your color grading is completely off. With bad color grading it doesn’t matter what camera is used
as an vfx artist. i straight away can tell all of them. i can almost tell what lens you are using if you didnt add all the cc/film look.
nice! good job man
It all really depends on how you grade. Your style lends to a wider range of cameras. My style really pushes my cameras. I recently got an FX3 to match my RED and it really doesnt compare. There is just no way an iPhone can even come close to my RED unless I made a very light grade.
А теперь представьте, если бы Apple с их разработками сделали беззеркальную камеру размером с FX 3, либо официалную возможность ставить большие объективы на телефон. Они бы буквально убрали бы всех конкурентов с рынка💀
Вроде камеры в айфонах от sony
@@suuunkar да, но у них алгоритмы вообще лютые, что из такого маленького сенсора столько вытягивают
It is pretty obvious which is the ARRI over the FX3 if you are a person who shoots ARRI a lot. However after color matching this isn't as much the case. Iphone is still obvious either way.
Understand correctly all three, but surprised that arri and fx3 are very close. Thank you!
Yes! I got it right from the start! I just tried to look at the dynamic range and the sharpness. The fx3 was really close but in the first shot the sun overexposed looked slightly flat compared to camera A’s role off. Camera C was easiest due to the blown out sky, saturation, and sharpness. I’m surprised I guessed the arri and the fx3 on a phone screen though.
Arri had the most consistent look and best neutral baseline for further color grading, FX3 was kind of close ooc, but lots of baked in sharpness and vibrance which can be trouble in post if you don’t like it and it looks more like video than film, smartphone footage was obvious from the first frame.
Now there are a lot of scenarios where you could see the difference in quality even more, like overexposing skin tones, harsh backlight, closeups of faces etc.
Or one situation where I have seen sony footage fall apart is skin tones in mixed lighting situations for example. Try lighting faces with mixed tungsten and HMIs and under/overexpose the skin, it will look absolutely horrendous.
Also lets not forget, we are watching this on a small screen over youtube, what about a cinema screen
That wider and softer look is Arri's recipe. Plus that magenta hue i knew B was the Sony. Obv C was a dead giveaway from the flares u find from phone videos.
Xperia 1V > iPhone 14Pro in terms of video. It is sad that in the media only the leading sells smartphone model is promoted for clicks and views.
true but sadly that's the world we live in.
@@dauntlus_yt thanks for the real, honest answer.
Sony was the most pleasant to look at during the blind test for me.
@@defcry_again your opinion is valid. i find some times i prefer the sony more
I feel so proud of myself.... i have studied this cameras that i know all their footage at a glance, no matter how much you grade them. if you got them all right too you are an OG lets stop studying cameras and starts telling stories. see you on the big screen.
iPhone is in Applelog?
Yes! Apple Log, ProRes 422HQ
Not surprising at all that I kept favoring C and B and hated all A shots. Had a DP blow most of my budget on renting some Arri worth 300k, going on and on about how great it is, and how well trained and experienced he was, only to end up with shit footage even the editor couldn't fix. The BTS photos and videos on cheaper cameras and iPhones were far superior.
to be honest, The FX3 looked better that Arri Alexa
Для меня слишком драматичный сериал. Но музыкально сделан отлично, свет поставлен очень хорошо. Из последнего что прям очень мне понравилось это голодные игры, можно его разобрать.
why all video seems like a bad render,,, such like you dont have a good VGA
Woohaa! Correctly guessed all of them!
Camera b was my favourite followed closely by c. Iphone camera is wow
That iq for forcing watch time crazy
your iq to realise it tho 😂
Why do i like the fx3 more than the alexa😭
Amazing iPhone
Fx3❤
A alexa B fx3 C iPhone
Alexa is 82 grand😢
@@9_kicksfooty bought mine secondhand 👊🏻😂
@@dauntlus_yt how much, it still can't be cheap
Я угадал где Arri
camera B com foco errado o tempo todo.
@@beneditoglobo i don’t understand what u said but yes i agree! ☝️
VERY SURPRISED INDEED
Man with ur bad colorgrading skill a arri camera becomes an iphone !!!!
that's another way to look at it 🤣
Oi im from Indonesia@@dauntlus_yt
#JADHUG
Great video brother...although I do not agree with you completely...some parts i do..like it's important to have a story and lighting and sound design is definitely a lot more important however some shots or looks that you can get with a good cinema camera, you just don't get it from an iphone or let's say a vlogging camera like zv-e10...gear does matter at some point...great video nevertheless
@@ihassan1001 for sure! you’ve got a point. thanks for your kind words 🙏
Not to be that guy but the grade butchers even the arri footage
Iphone is having worst view. Very unnatural color. High saturation and sharpness
False information....
I thought 1 was the phone because it looked like shit