Is Settra the Imperishable Any Good in Patch 5.2? - Tomb Kings Lord Unit Focus
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- It's finally here! Settra had three direct changes - two to his mounts, one to let him equip Arcane items - that made for significant differences to his quality of unlife in recent patches, so I've researched him as thoroughly as I can in terms of game mechanics and style to try and give you good advice. I hope I've been up to the task.
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The Off to Battle unit focus format uses combat demonstrations from Skirmish vs. AI, background music and voice commentary, including:
- Intro
- Stat breakdown including hidden stats
- Common lord/ tech tree buffs applicable factionwide
- Tips, tricks, advice, maybe a secret or two!
- Bonus footage, playing out the battle once the voiceover is done so you can enjoy the sights and the music
Today's BGM: Desert Rhythms by Patrick Patrikios (RUclips Audio Library)
Total War Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires, Thrones of Decay DLC Patch 5.2!
34 minutes of saying the dudes name and 4 seconds for “yes“
And many titles, I suppose.
@@iguanaking1361 So, the perfect Settra video ?
Oh mighty, Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds... and many, many more...
Is very worth it.
Thanks for contributing ^^ I appreciate it, I just couldn't add that to all the work this video and its underlying research were. So genuinely appreciative!
@@OffToBattle I am always happy to give His full titles
SETTRA DOES NOT SWERVE!!! *chariot leaves burning wheel-shaped gouges in the chosen*
That's a good spin on it.
Reminds me of "I need your bike" from MGR
Settra is a very balanced character- he is a good combatant, excellent army leader who provides buffs to many key TK units and a very competent spell caster. He has a nice selection of Mounts, that allows him to play different roles on the battlefield. His Chariot of the Gods is totally unique and gives Settra absolutely ridiculous Charge Bonus and infantry mulching potential. I feel that Settra's greatest strength is his flexibility- he can do pretty much anything on the battlefield- from Lord sniping to blob destruction. It seems from your video that the Chariot of the Gods could use a mass increase- it looked like it got stuck right after hitting Tier 1 Empire infantry.
Overall, this is a very informative and in-depth video. Thank you.
I'm so glad I could do justice to all the flexibility you mention. The other LL's will be less so, but that's fine. I can compare them to Settra a couple of times for reference and information. Khalida's the easiest script to do next, and she's the only non caster lord of the LL's. Also the one youtubers dump on the most (faction-wise). I think it's like Aranessa, it's part the "She's not complete without Neferata!" gripe. Which is fair...
@@OffToBattle I feel that all Tomb King Lords are unique- Settra being the warrior (mostly), Khalida is a non- caster poison/Ranged specialist, Arkhan being the evil wizard/vampire and Khatep being a good wizard. If Tomb Kings lack anything, it would be generic Lords. Although, more Legendary Lords would certainly be welcome.
I'm still under the impression that Chariot of the Gods should fly.
There's a thousand stories with chariots of Gods and the chariot is always able to fly, even the ones that come out of the ground.
Ehhhh well it's already magical and flaming, it's pretty close. That and Burning Chariot gets enough hate as it is... Settra wouldn't benefit from the chariot having to slow down prior to impact with the targeted infantry. The speed on that mount really is a high point for him.
@@OffToBattle flying units can land in TW3, and the option would still be nice.
Wonder what Settra would do at the beach. Probably play with sand. At least we know he does not surf. Anyway the chariot could greatly benefit from having some more mass, maybe 3000 or so
It could, but they seem to be resisting doing that with chariots across the board.
I don't think the Tomb Kings need a major rework, their campaign feels incredibly well done thematically and their mechanics are fun in my opinion. I just think they could use buffs and tweaks to some things like: global recruitment of their tier 4 and tier 5 units, some of the books of Nagash, the realm of souls is okay, but it's annoying that it does nothing for construct armies and they could make some of the tech tree lords and proclamations more interesting rather than like +5% income from settlement buildings and +5 winds for all armies. They also suffer from 3 of the 4 lords starting in close proximity while not being able to confederate making campaigns feel quite similar after a couple dozen turns while Khatep has just a bizzare start location. Also I would like to see a couple new units for them like higher tier ap chariots, a legendary hero, and something that could be cool is flying ushabti units, something like vargheists maybe. Plus more generic lord options would be welcome. Also Settra's bonuses to relations with Tomb King factions feels pretty useless often as you are incentivized to take out Arkhan (which makes sense) and Khalida if she doesn't die on turn 8 and there isn't enough minor Tomb King factions to make good use of it. It's a pretty long list, but I think they would feel mostly fine with just some of these changes.
Yeah, a few tweaks and they'd be in a better place. It is my continued belief they didn't touch this earlier because GW was being hyper-sensitive about factions being updated for The Old World in tabletop. (The other being Bretonnia and we're seeing signs of life on that front.)
Such a great lord! He can do pretty much everything, buffs your best infantry, and is surrounded by special landmarks that significantly boost your empire. Being sandwiched between Mannfred and Skarbrand can get a bit dicey, especially if they both declare war before you're able to raise a second army. Fun times.
Yeah, you have lots of choices about which aspect to favor, but CA's made it a lot less punishing to favor casting, and the mount boosts help casting indirectly by providing the speedy caster option still hitting hard. The builder of empires can enjoy lots of breadth.
More Lord focus please. Maybe a breakdown of not only battle capabilities, but skill lines and research tree pathing.
Research tree will come eventually, but the tree I want to put in your mind is how Settra's video was mandatory for doing Khalida, who I've played extensively, Arkhan and Khatep, who I haven't, and the generic Tomb Kings and the dynasty-specific tech tree lords, which gives me an excuse to get into some of the research tree in manageable slices. I'll start putting together a Khalida script today.
Thanks for the video!
May I know where are you getting these advanced stats pages from? Looks useful.
Total War Warhammer Stats. While not perfect, the aesthetic's fantastic and it's still very helpful. Just google the name, you'll be fine ^^
@@OffToBattle yup found it, thanks 💜
You forgot to mention his special lord defeat trait versus Surtha Ek.
a) I am aware of it, b) Crocodile Dundee much, c) You're not trying to get him defeated anyway, d) I did forget ^^ I had a lot of work to do this video. Thanks for the comment! I'll have to mention the defeat traits somewhere sometime, but I don't even know the other ones by heart. Someone at CA has a lot of fun writing the flavor text.
@OffToBattle it gets you an extra 10 chariot slots and +10 armour for chariot units, which for some reason includes caskets
Truly,
Settra does not serve, Settra rules!!!
Iconic character for lots of reasons.
I'm slightly confused on the in-game wording on Glorious Charge, though your description of it "boosting flanking attacks" may have cleared things up: "Enemy units take a Leadership penalty *as if* they have been attacked in the flank. So based on how you talked about it in the video, it's a bonus leadership penalty of about the same numerical value he applies whenever he charges an enemy so he can double-up by charging the flanks/rear. Am I understanding it correctly?
It sounds like that, but because I didn't study Kislev in detail I didn't dwell, it's a bonus, not the part that really makes or breaks Chariot of the Gods for him. I mean, without extra items or Tombstrike running he doesn't inflict Terror to exploit it. The influence on damage, when he can get charge bonus north of 170, is in contrast very substantial. You're getting that bonus (but not collision attacks) even once his charge 'stalls' until... well, it's probably meaningful 20 seconds in, which is ridiculous.
@@OffToBattle too add to this, the ability inflicts the same leadership debuff as it would be attacking an enemy in the rear, EVEN IF it attacks them from the front. So, leadership wise, it will be as it always attacks from behind, no matter the direction. So, it's applied even from the front. Now, if it stacks with the regular attacked in the rear I dunno, but i would assume so
@@OffToBattlewith that said, even tho I have not tried golden wheels settra that much, I stand by the lack of usability in chariots as I have complained about on your other videos. Yes he ys better than their regular chariots since he is a solo one and won't get stuck on himself, but even in your video it's clear that unless you actively micromanage and pull him through a unit, he will stop there on his own and just be trapped. I remain with the opinion that Katarina is (no matter how large your charge bonus is) still the only good chariot in the game, since she is the only one that doesn't automatically stops dead halfway through a unit, she keeps going and turns around. Settra, if anyone, should have the same mechanic. (and honestly the exalted seekers too) In short, even the greatest king is bad on a chariot, unless you are willing to babysit him literally every second of the game, simply Becasue chariot mechanics sucks, even after a dozen reworks
@@OffToBattle with all that said, could you make a video in the various weird ork chariots? I've never really understood what the "unstoppable" thing for them does, they seem to stop just the same as all other chariots
Glorious Charge simply applies the leadership penalty that would’ve been applied if you charged from the rear or flank :)
He's not good. And neither are the Tomb Kings. They are weak. But they are still incredibly fun! Settra's tomb guard build is no joke. Just a really weak start that's all. A Tomb Kings rework would be great. The rise of the tomb kings is still the best faction DLC CA has ever made. Better than the Chaos Dwarfs (which is a close second). But yeah... they're kind of weak. I guess that's built into the thing though because if you lose your entire army you just rebuild it for free. Running up against a level 20+ Skarbrand is still a really bad day though on legendary/VH.
Here's the thing though... Tomb King magic is all about debuffs and buffs. It's not your typical kill magic and so it looks like it is weak. But it's not. It's just a different play style.
That second paragraph, I'd upvote a hundred times if I could. It's a roster that rewards buffs / debuffs in the heat of combat too. Definitely can't be accused of being an overpowered faction, but that's why I love this video series, familiarity really raises a player's ability to squeeze more blood from a skeleton.
I mentioned it before and you also talked about it, but the charge bonus you can get on him is so good! Also, I am not sure if it is still the case on the current patch but on Settra's start if you went for the TK minor faction first instead of the vampire one, they would recruit a terrorgheist as the last unit. Always, I would send settra to fight it alone even in L/VH max AI stat cheats, and he never lost.
I fought that Terrorgheist so many times while researching this video, it never occurred to me it wasn't a starting unit. I've got to play Counts sometimes so I can use units like that without yolo-ing them and getting them chewed up by guys like Settra. I almost feel sorry for the monstrosity.
Despite how much I love the TKs, Settra is probably my least favorite lord in their roster. the Grand Heirophant is in a fun starting location and is super hard. Khalida starts with some absolute lads for her units and can really spiral into some interesting directions. and Arkhan, my favorite campaign in the game, is literally right next door to Settra.
That said, as a unit he's still IMMENSE. Probably the strongest of the 4 when it comes to lord power.
The breadth of how you can play him personally is very impressive. Khalida still has a place in my heart for all my TWW2 play with her (and some in Immortal Empires too, sparring against Skarbrand)
sometimes you don't need anything special. sometimes just being a murder machine on wheels is enough