It's honestly shocking how much useless advice I've received...none of it worked. 😓 I was told once to change my whole art style to improve by someone 😭
@Khann_2102 I follow advice that I know would help me in the specific topic I'm trying to achieve. Wanna learn perspective, start with dimple 3d share perspective to get the general concept and all those shapes can be combined to one bigger image.
I like how my art mentor put it for me "art is a hobby, art is for fun, use everything that you are given. Do not limit yourself, your not taking an exam."
Great advice. I believe everyone can do art - even if it's abstract, a form of expression and emotions. That's why there's Art Therapy and those who go are not artists. Many do take up art after though.
I don't like that advice because "art is a hobby" sounds so limiting. Sometimes you draw for money, sometimes you aren't being paid but are making a gift and want to make it match someone else's tastes. Like if you're only doing it for yourself, as a hobby, then that's great but I find art for other people fun too Edit to add: art doesn't need to be fun either. Sometimes it can be painful but cathartic and sometimes you spend several hours feeling frustrated because you can't get that one bit to look right but it was so satisfying to finish and now you've got a new skill
@@ah-sh9dw you're making a good point about the potential of art being something different than a "hobby" or "just for fun". but also it does start as a hobby for most people so a lot will relate to the advice op mentioned.
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h I never would've got into art if I considered it a hobby and just for fun. If my teacher said that to me, I'd probably be completely put off of art by it
"That isn't REAL art because it isn't realistic." - My art teacher in 2nd grade after I gave her a drawing of a mermaid :/ Bestie what?? I was 6?? 😭😭 Edit: for those talking about me being 6 in second grade, I was like 8 or something, but I wrote this after pulling an all-nighter so I was barely there man 🙃
I wonder what goes in the mind of those ppl who thinks "real art" is real (wait that is kind of ironic lol) bc isn't art a way to express one-self, interpret topics, or just portraying something imaginary? Like wth bro.
I remember a few years ago there was a massive kick off regarding this but it was getting into art college/uni. A student was told to don't just draw anime but understand it posture, lighting etc as I never knew there were hundreds of different styles of anime. I'm not an anime artist not a fan of it but have seen some exceptional artwork. Any way this student refused to listen rocked up to art school and was rejected as all they provided was the most generic anime art ever.... Oh boy the Internet kicked off. Thankfully a professional anime artist stepped in and shock a lot saying when he started as an anime artist he had to learn anatomy in detail and agreed that the art school was right. My attitude is if your art inspires you and you find happiness in it do what the hell you want to do. Ignore the grumbling people they are only jealous half the time they haven't progressed pass stickmen drawings 😂
@@ileniagennari499 It is partially true. Unless you live in Japan and speak Japanese a Japanese anime studio isn't going to hire you. Anime is ridiculously difficult to get into and if that is what you want to do for a career but don't meet those qualifications then you need to try something else. It's just the way that it is.
@@FablestoneSeries This argumentation is kinda bad because western shows have been doing the anime art style for way over a decade now. But I do think that, the same as drawing everything in the style of the Marcinelle school or Ligne claire, drawing anime/manga style can easily become a crutch. But this also goes for using only a single material, type of ink or paint, medium, etc. Yes, it is okay to do a single thing as a hobbyist, but exploring other ways to do the same thing is inherently important to the growth of an artist. You also get way more mileage out of it. It's not a war-crime or anything, which is why a "comic sans bad" reaction to your work is often a bit baffling. Shut up, I'm having a good time.
@@theothertonydutch It is a lesson in tough love for any anime enthusiast, that the best way to getting their dream job is by not directly pursuing their dream job. At least in the field of animation. If you want a job drawing (or writing for that matter) for a specific studio they will ask to see art from that genre but not exactly their IP, because they don't want to be accused of ripping you off, should they already be working on something similar. Just another reason I tell art students to stop doing fan art. Fan art is a road to nowhere.
Explanation on “don’t use black”!! You can totally use black in your art, but you shouldn’t rely on it as a default to darken your colors when painting. Black is a powerful pigment and it can turn your bright red into a reddish-black VERY quickly. It makes yellow look muddy. USUALLY you want to darken a color with its complimentary color. As a rule, I try to avoid black when I’m mixing my colors unless I want to bring down the color’s chroma or I’m at the very end of mixing the colors and just need it to be a taaaad darker. Or if I want to paint a pure black to offset other colors I’m using. It’s actually very good advice but it’s meant as a color mixing guide for people who aren’t masters at mixing colors yet and not as a general all-of-art rule.
I make my own black paint - I use Oil paint (don't use it that often) but I do throw a little Crimson in prevents muddying complimentary colours - of curse you can go heavy on the blue or brown side depending what complimentary colours you use.
I try to use blues and purples for shading/darkening. Because lighting and shading irl are not pure white nor pure black. Which is why it can look less realistic or harsh to our eyes on some pieces. I try to save pure black or white for extremely contrasted areas. Things like bright shines or deep crevices/folds. Even then you can still tint them slightly into other colors so they can be off white and off black.
I don't know if this is a good thing to do or not but I like using a thin layer of diluted ink on top. When it isn't mixed in and is just a layer it doesn't muddy things as much. I am cheap and find it good since it doesn't involve buying more colours and the ink goes down so slowly that its pretty much infinite
Забавно, но большинство красок, что используют художники вместо черного, замешаны на черном пигменте. Индиго, например. Ван Дик Коричневый. Сепия. Но эти же люди избегают черного. А так-то совет верный: затенять все черным плохая идея, потому что черный делает цветную работу плоской. Опытные художники имеют его в палитре, но стараются его не трогать.
And you can actually use black if it makes sense in the background. Old artists from Baroque to Renaissance have dark brownish black backgrounds, which would make sense for using black as shadows.
I am definitely guilty of answering with "I just practice" when people ask me how I started drawing, because I just made little characters and stories and just did my best to convey it. It's a tempting thing to say because when you do it for so long, you don't even think about it. Like the saying goes, "all art teachers are good artists, but not all artists are good art teachers"
I've gotten to the point where if I feel I can't give meaningful advice, I just tell people "idk, I just drew until I figured it out on my own. Don't ask me for advice".
To be fair, "just practice" is sometimes the result of asking an unspecific question like "how do I get better at art" without specificing what exactly do you want to improve on ( you ask a general question you get a general answer I guess) or you were just getting advice from someone who doesn't fully understand what they're doing and just balling with it. (or both of these together)
one's imagination can take them far in their skills in bringing it to life enough for others to get the vibe you yourself are going for It is one of the thrills of being an artist that I've realized as I continue making pieces.
@@jasonyones5103 I think using good, clear recipes is “cheating” if you’re already good in the kitchen (obviously I think that’s as BS as saying you shouldn’t use reference for art) but I would like to share a mildly amusing story about following recipes - one of my friends asked Alexa for a cake recipe last year and followed it pretty much to the letter. As for how it turned out… her husband told me it was nice knowing me just after I was offered a slice the next day 😂
Some said that he referenced himself as Mona Lisa as his portrait looks kinda like the Mona Lisa Don't know if that's true or not though (kinda same angle and stuff like that)
If you're inbetweening you'll probably never be using your own art on the job, ever. For probably a decade or more. And it's your job to draw other peoples' keys. Quite directly. You can't approximate, you can't add your own spin to it, you _have_ to inbetween your higher-ups frames exactly. Line for line. None of this cutesy youtuber "copy it, _but not directly"_ speal. You. Must. Refer. Directly.
"acktually, anime and cartoonish style is terrible and bad!1!1! its not physically appealing to me so im gonna throw a hissy fit!! grrr life is hard!!!"
Honestly everytime my sister asks me for tutorials on how I draw, or asks me for tips on improvement I tell her “Study what you struggle with, and if you get stuck give it a minute and come back to it.” Because that’s what’s worked for me. I use trail and error and study mine and others’ artworks and mistakes so that I may improve.
the people that say "digital art is not for real artists" are so dumb considering the fact that most tv shows, cartoons and movies have ART AND ANIMATION made by PEOPLE on DIGITAL PROGRAMS 😭😭 i swear some ppl need to keep their advice for themselves.
@@dowon_btwsnap. But the love for traditional oil paint was too strong for me lol. Maybe I'll try digital again in the future but for me at this moment in time is not for me. 😊
You have a point but it goes both ways I've seen digital artists who only do Anime start lecturing other artist who did anatomical figurative art - he was told it's all wrong and the complaining individual proceeded to "anime" up the art and say this is the correct way? 😂 The Art World is a funny place and loads of misconceptions. I hear it a lot as I use Oil Paints and there are some sectors who do nothing but demonise it as "Dangerous". All art mediums have health risks - digital art will have some eye strain to carpal tunnel syndrome in some 😂.
@@Mark-nh2hs I do think in general art is very gatekeepy. It's weird because at the end of the day IMO as long as you yourself are creating the piece of art it shouldn't matter what you use all digital does is condense the tools of traditional into a program with some exceptions such as transform tools which as far as i know are unique to digital and does help speed up workflow and tends to be more cost effective at least within the developed world. I enjoy both but tend to switch it up when I feel a bit stuck with one. I honestly think I'd be a bit disappointed though if I started with digital and never had my first drawings traditional because it's super cool having a sketchbook of old drawings/doodles you did years back. Digital is harder to learn if you start with traditional because unless you got a screen tablet which even then you still will feel kinda disconnected from your art. Hard to beat that pencil on paper feel and the friction you get traditionally that is hard to get the same sensation on digital and graphic tablets just feel weird if your used to traditional at least while learning em
I think every human is born an artist, being creative is a human trait. Just some people loose the childlike wonder for art on their way to growing and some (artists) are keeping drawing. And sometimes people who lost it on their way, are starting as adults anew and I think that's wonderful 👏
Look at very young children art they can create some truly amazing abstract art. I remember an abstract artist saying the secret of abstract is to activate your inner 3 year old and don't focus on anything empty the mind of what you been taught lol.
@@Mark-nh2hs Also if I may add, Picasso said: "It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child." - and I think it's not to take it in literally but I understand it like: to loose yourself in your craft like an unrestrained child. Only then can you unchain your full potential. I think.
Everyone can be an artists but your point isn’t true. Their are definitive differences in each humans brain that WILL cause another artist to be ‘better’ than the other because art is the human view on reality(or the opposite). This is counting for most art styles, not the abstract ones.
Omg i always hated people saying that the art should have no more paper white How to make someone go from "ah nice a good task" to "omg nooooo" Got that from art teacher but also from one other teacher at the time we had to make drawings in our first page of lessons books in middle school
Frrr they tell/ask me “eww draw a background” so do you wanna draw a jungle? “Ugh stop drawing cats that’s not real art!” Like your stick cats know what real art is
"Draw everyday." Okay, what so I draw? "Just draw what's right in front of you." Everyday? "Yes. After 10,000 hours maybe you'll be a 'real artist, like me."
Uggghhh I hate when people tell me that, like brother, I want to draw people, as you can tell from me only drawing people, drawing my cereal bowl isn't going to help "but it helps with lighting and-" no, shut up, that's not what I need to practice rn
You don’t have to draw complex subjects but you should try to draw close to daily for 10 minutes at least. Draw what you don’t know. Idk how to draw fabric but I’ve been drawing the wrinkles on my shirt for about a month now and now I know how light bounces between creases. I still don’t know how to draw a flowy dress but I’m already better than before. You have to strike while the iron is hot to cement the technique.
I mean I don't usually use a ruler but then again I typically go for organic stuff rather than structures. Rulers are pretty helpful when drawing buildings and some perspective stuff lol. Imagine squiggly houses.
One of my Professors once said "Not every Teacher is a Good Professional, and not every Professional is a Good Teacher". And throughout the years I've seen how REAL that is.
The main things that really helped get my art to the next level are 1) all objects are made out of planes and 2) simplifying planes into straight-edged shapes is the quickest way to understand those planes and create the illusion of 3 dimensionality.
I used to be one to say “I don’t use references” but I eventually realized that I was using references without knowing. I’ve looked at my hand to see if the one on my drawing is backwards or not, I use references from my head (like if I want to draw an animal I saw the other day). Plus a lot of my art has features ,like big feet, that I implemented because of other artists I admire. We all use references weather we realize it or not EDIT: holy crap stop fighting in the replies 😭
You could create an art piece and someone could point it out that oh that's like this or that artist - someone you never heard off. Until you remember 6 years ago you flicked through one of his artbooks 😂 it's there subconsciously 😂
Pretty sure that's the point of saying so. You don't just generate something outta your mind out of literal void, it's all things you've seen and understood before, but when they say done use references ig they are talking about straight up copying something without understanding how it works, so you can make yourself remember such learnings when in need instead of just relying on images you're seeing already.
@@doodleoffice221 Studios have style boards. They take their animators on field trips to see real life reference.They encourage animators to act out scenes. I can not state this strongly enough. USE REFERENCE is the mantra by which all studios live by. And tracing... is encouraged. even ENFORCED. You learn by tracing the work of artists better than yourself. Disney has been tracing their own work for 100 years. The only people saying don't trace or don't use reference are the amateurs and hobbyists.
@@FablestoneSeries studios aren't standards for art learning, they will do anything that saves time and accelerate the process as long as it's legal, that's why theses heavy copy pasting and and pretty much the extinction of 2d animation. Another bigger reason is standardization, people working in a project don't automatically know what they are doing to do, hence they get provided everything necessary to make everything as clear as possible, otherwise there would be stylistic differences between each of their works. Studios don't teach you art, you're there cuz you already know it, their purpose is to make a project work, one of which invoices the whole communication process of trying to let people know the goal. Idk why you're trying to restate the whole "use references" statement, I was just trying to clarify the meaning behind the saying, which I directly said was "copying something without understanding" essentially working like a printer instead of not using anything classified as "references" which is literally everything. Things you listed in the name of referencing are part of study, involves learning, and what I am saying what they mean by referencing is not having the learning part itself. Tracing is a common beginner's technique to learn, to get control over lines by stimulating it. But if you're doing this without understanding what artists intend by making such lines, it's useless. You can learn _faster_ with tracing, but better than yourself? Impossible, you don't know others work better than you know your own work.
The reference one is easily the worst for me. Some of the greatest artist of our generation AND past generations were pretty reliant on using SAID references. Hell man like let’s take it to anime a highly popular form of art in today’s society. THAT uses reference, like nearly every mangaka uses references from kishimoto (Naruto) to people like Oda (one piece) and etc. If you’re starting art, don’t be scared of using references. You don’t need them for LITERALLY EVERYTHING. But it’s not immoral to use, of course see how you work without references sometimes so you can understand what you need to improve on. But references aren’t bad to use and never have been, been that way for literal hundreds of years😭
"But you need an iPad for digital drawings so your art is actually good." Like what? Uh, I just suck lmao, drawing w/my fingers have nothing to do with it? Sure it may be easier but it won't make me better.
I cannot imagine drawing with a finger (my broke artist days were whatever pencil i had in school and my 40 cent notebook), but expensive tablets and programs and brushes really do not make a difference when it comes to fundamentals. Styluses just let you have better control over line weight.
The one thing I'm gonna give digital art an edge on is that when drawing details you can redo the same part several times in a few seconds easily until you feel satisfied If you didn't forget to do it on a separate layer
So i did the whole "get inundated by other artists art advice to the point where i stopped making art" thing, and while there was some beneficial advice out there, a lot of it is just used to push those artists into the very popular learning algorithm (no shade for that either, get that bread anyway you can). That being said, i think a lot of people pursuing art can get caught up in the "learning" loop and not the more beneficial practice loop. Unprofessional, hobbyist art creator advice: i found an old art book while thrifting one day, and have been attempting to study just from that book because i was so enamored by the artists style. This has helped me feel motivated to sketch and paint again, but your results may vary. Happy creating friends!
8:01 I actually took a college level art class where we studied the fundamentals of drawing and this was one of the techniques we used. It was supposed to teach us how to “sync” your eye with your hand and focus on observing and your object and its details rather than focusing on your drawing. I remember my professor saying: “how do you plan to draw something if you don’t observe it and know how it looks like?” In short words: Observe and learn more than what you draw.
Seriously when I was younger I was encouraged to use reference by a critique and my art only became better. Especially when it's not a subject (like say a wild animal) that one can't easily actually view, sets someone up to have some of the worst anatomy possible. Digital art is amazing. The list goes on… Thank you for this video and for calling out bs
One piece of "advice" I've heard is using the bucket fill tool is "cheating". And another piece is your art always has to be perfect. As in lines have to be smooth, colour has to be within the lines that sort of thing.
This is kinda unrelated, but this comment reminded me of Minecraft players complaining about beds for making the game "too easy" when if they didn't exist you would just stay inside your house for 10 minutes doing nothing until the sun rises. I know this doesn't have anything to do with art, but it reminded me of that "You should do the more boring, time-consuming option instead of a simple solution for the same results".
One of my favourite pieces of advice came from a friend who does not consider himself an artist but it was similar to what you said later in the video, but it was something along the lines of. "Nothing in nature is perfect, so don't always strive for perfection". I was worried about things being uneven and something just looking off so I would scrap so many pieces, I still have that problem, but working on it :)
0:52 as someone who drew everyday, it’s good to learn fast or your bored at school or something, it helped me and I bet it helped others, but some tips that helped me When you start, ALWAYS start simple with a simple but realistic. Like a cartoon. Then when your ready, start focusing on realism and anatomy, once your done you can go to an art style you like!
Art community always have gate keeper point the worst direction as much as they can so u wont improve to their level , its real even when u work inside a art company
Worst art advice i got, buisness kind and unprompted "You should paint some other stuff that isn't girly." My specialty is feminine subjects. In person I get a lot of compliments over my gals and other works. My favorite art advice that was drawing, it came from a manga book and it is more "rule of thumb" so it is a base idea of how to draw. But hands length usually matches face length. Or why people use drawing utensils too understand length
I hate the "don't use references" advice, human memory isn't perfect and a reference is like a safety net that helps you to know that you won't forget any details cause all of them are right there! I used to think that this advice was good advice, and i had no clue why my drawings always looked bad, but once i started using references improved my work by a million. Even if your art isn't realistic having a reference so you can understand pose dynamics, proportions, etc.
The ball shading example is an example of a BEGINNER PRACTICING. The article is obviously intended to boost confidence, and if it looks like a photo image, or a skilled sketch of a stylized ball, like the examples you "suggested," it would be overly daunting and off-putting to new artists. Some people just need encouragement. My partner's kiddo is like that. She just needs to hear someone say, "you're getting better, keep going," and she doesn't really need "advice" when she asks how to get better. She will get better with time, and that's the whole common theme to all the "bad advice" which isn't really all that bad, just poorly worded. Encourage newer artists to keep making art. It helps
I am so glad I found this video! I was fortunate to have professors with experience of working in the industry (animation and video games) encouraging my class to use references whether it's a photo or a live video, just don't trace it lol especially I find professional artists who are honest use artist references in their art tutorials whereas other "artists" who claim they draw without using any reference at all are most likely lying.
Contour drawings are a fundamental and helpful practice though. One of the first things I taught in my drawing class in college, and it really helped me make more realistic outlines. I recommend it to people who want to help their line structure and especially hand-to-eye coordination
Worst art advice I got from my mom as a little kid was "hide the hands behind the back because youre not good at drawing them" really hindered my art development for a bit. Obviously the way I got better at drawing hands was to draw hands 😑
"No sketchy lines." OK, _why?_ If your literal sketch is jerky and fuzzy, this is actually fine. If your next layer is still a little jerky, this is still fine. You want smoothness when you're doing something you actually want to be seen, your final draft is the only thing that is going to be presented, so be as chaotic as you need to be. You don't have to fear the fuzz, you don't have to stress about the fuzz. As you continue to make cleaned-up pieces, your sketches will eventually follow to be more confident. And if the sketches _don't_ look less hairy, so what? If you have solid line art over that, clearly you know how follow your own chaos, sooooooooo... What are we being bothered by in the first place? A part of the process is _ALWAYS_ going to make you go: "Wow! What a mess! I hate looking at this!" No matter how skilled an artist you are, that is a fact. You can let the sketch be a puddle of gross hair if you like. So long as *YOU* can follow along with it, you can make it clear and clean later.
Proko often gives that kind of advice and then proceeds to add a digital layer and refine the lines on top of his first sketchy layer. He gives the advice because he sais, that the line confidence can be seen and is appreciated by even the people who have no clue about art.
Getting the sentence of "you're limiting yourself, I know you can do much better" after being limited to using only the pictures in a certain book, not being allowed to use a picture someone else had used already, there only being a total of 3 pictures left to choose from, all three being pattern wood cuts (so no real "action" happening), only being allowed to use a single colour.... Like, lady: Not only are YOU the one limiting me, the only reason I was behind on that specific assingment was because I had been TO THE HOSPITAL the day you gave it out! And that was a regular occurence since I had a chronic illness that was kicking my butt. If you're going to limit kids on certain things, at least give us some leniency when we are actively trying to.. yknow... go to school despite needing strong meds? It was over 18 years ago, and I still remember that. Weirdest thing was, otherwise she was a lovely teacher.
Drawing every day will make you better, even just warm ups. Improves line quality, even if you don't 'line' your art work, clean sketches are better than messy especially if you're a beginner. Build good practices, improve muscle memory. I understand that people may not have the time to do this, it's unrealistic for them, but either way it's still true.
Worst advice i got was from a "friend". She came into my house, stole my sketchbook, called my art ugly, then told me i should stop using references because its cheating and its making my art worse (i dont like them)
“Just let the creativity flow” No, give me something to put in my mind to put on paper, I ask “what should I draw?” They say “idk” like JUSTGIVEMEONETHINGTHATISNTADOGORCATOMFGGYJIJCBCIJGGYJIJCBASIDNCIJANEDNMKS
my god SAME! i personally think there's two types of artists: Those who can only create if told "create whatever you want" and Those who can only create if told "today's goal is to draw a box shape". Sadly I'm the latter type of the artist. I can only make fanart and replicate someone else's style or create from somebody else's discarded ideas or concept art from scrapped or terminated games and movies/ shows! I was commissioned once to create an original character and I can't even do it! (i had to decline the job and willingly gave away all the concepts I had made for them because I was incredibly ashamed of my inability) And now in this age of the internet where art is now very hyper competitive, I have to give up my pursuit of being an artist. Like... what else is there for me? I have the sense to know it's really a bad showing professionally that you can't make anything but fanart!
"Never use black" obviously conflicts with a lot of art practice. Anders Zorn e.g. created the Zorn palette which just uses Cadmium Red Yellow Ochre, Titanium White and Black with a slight blueish tint to substitute a blue. Dont' use black is a good advice for watercolor. You should learn how to mix colors both in the sense of hitting the right hue, but also with mixing paint consistencies/concentrations for your value. And then apply them light to dark in layers. Using black can be helpful later on, but it sets you back in your watercolor journey if you use it too early. Make your own black out of yellow, red and blue.
On a more serious note, I fell for the no reference lie when I was a teen and had time and energy to draw 5 hours a day. I don’t want to think about where I would be if I had attempted to learn how to draw things by looking at things. Yeah, I drew the same thing every day, I got good at drawing horrible anatomy abominations who all looked the same. Now that I’m depressed, tired, work full time and have to take care of my household, I struggle to draw at all so progress is absolutely glacial. Also sarcastic shoutout to my art teachers who NEVER BROUGHT UP REFERENCE IN ANY CONTEXT
I'm not sure if this counts as art advice, but one that really stings that I get a lot is: "I liked your old style better, you should go back to that." I changed it for a reason, thank you very much. Thanks for making me feel like my art progression was actually regression.
5:50 I actually think it isn't as basic as you think it is. For teaching a complete beginner it is better to never assume what the beginner should already know. I honestly think why some "pros" are bad at teaching is because they assume too much for the student to handle. It comes from the bias of the pros belittling the basics because they're already so good they forgot how hard it was in the beginning.
The advice I give people most is to fall in love with the process and not the product. You will want to keep going if you enjoy it rather than just do it for the result
You can make wicked bad "art" and be forever unsattisfied when you fall in love with the process and ignore the outcome. Pride in ones own work is not to be undervalued. People love the pride of the finished work. That's why stable diffusion generated pictures are so treasured by people who don't want to do the process leg work.
@@Herr_Vorragender It’s literally not that deep. I’m just saying to enjoy what you’re doing so you don’t get discouraged by seeing what other people make. Bringing up ai is irrelevant.
as someone who has passed my beginner-artist stage. here's my REAL advice no bs. 1) don't start art tools collection, it'll lead to nothing but money wastage. just buy ONE good quality pencil/tool. after you got good, you can start experimenting with other tools. 2) use reference, a lot. don't be ashamed of having to use reference. i have a friend that started drawing months before me and he always make fun of me for using one. now i'm way ahead of him improvement wise meanwhile he still draws awkwardly squished face. 3) watch other artists draw. you will learn a lot such as grips, strokes, tools used, paper gsm, technique, etc. make sure to apply what you learned to your art, and see if it works. 4) use guidelines, almost the same as advice 2). don't be ashamed. 5) BUILD LINE CONFIDENCE! DON'T CHICKEN SCRATCH. practice one long stroke instead of a multiple short ones. chicken scratching will destroy your brain and muscle memory. preventing you from building good line confidence. 6) don't be precious with your sketchbook. trust me, that big sketchbook you buy is just one in hundreds of your other sketchbook in the future. it ain't special. 7) burnout stages are real. and you'll undergo multiple of those especially if you have ADHD like me. if you're facing one right now, step away and learn to draw other things, so that when you come back to drawing your favourite piece, you are now equipped with new skills of drawing other things. 8) tweak and change other artist's tutorial to your comfort/liking/understanding. like me, i changed the loomis method to my own style yet it works the same. 9) learn to draw one same shape in various different angles. trust me this will help you draw in 3D A LOT. 10) lastly, ask yourself, are you ready to dive into the world of art. cause art is a constant-learning hobby. you won't get good at it quick. and once you do, you'll realise the ocean goes deeper. even for a decade long artists. it's a constant learning, trying, failing, success, burnout and repeat, for years and years on end. so yeah, ask yourself this before blindly jumping into art.
In high school, “constructive criticism” in any “physical media art,” though today that also includes “digital art,” will be among ONE OF, if not THE MOST important subjects you’ll ever learn while taking an art class or while currently in an art class in high school; and the reason I’m focusing on high school is because you have yet to take the plunge into Art College, and or the next plunge into adulthood. Note: all my experiences I am mentioning above were in a public high school in California, USA, in the early to mid-1990s,
It's the same today, though this is something we now usually save until university. When I was taking art classes in college, critiques were something we practiced often. Thankfully, only few were too stupid to understand it (and I say that because these particular few were apathetic a-holes whose art was so bad, yet they had the audacity to act like they ruled the world). There was specifically one person I refused to critique, because they always say the most problematic sh*t (ironically, they are "an activist" and shout at anyone who likes Harry Potter 😐), and can you guess what their art looked like? Actual doodoo. I could've critiqued them, but I refuse to help anyone who hates people (and improvement) that much. (Also this person thought saying "not to sound like an asshole...." only to then say something really offensive ALL THE TIME was okay... even in critique!!! they stank so bad) So I think we are already seeing the downfall of proper criticism. Media literacy is dying, and media literacy rules REAL criticism. Critics exist to make media better, but now they exist just to... complain? About everything? And then these same people LOVE the most brainrot garbage possible. We are so screwed 😭 I can't imagine how art critique circles are going to become in the next 10 years....
@@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78 preach, but try actually having a critical thought on a forum, it's " art can be whatever I feel like" all the way down followed by a lot of screaming...
one time I was at a event for my sister’s elementary school, and I was just sketching out a face to draw on(I was drawing Yuji Itadori), and the art teacher, who was walking by, said, “don’t sketch, it means you’re unconfident if you can’t draw what you want immedietly” or smth like that
This might come off as a rant, but i thought itd be best to be honest here. Anyway this is my experience: Saying "Get better by drawing everyday" is the artists equivalent of "If you want to find the right person to date, just be yourself." It just comes off as something said to get the person asking off the artists back, and the advise is so nebulous that its next to useless. Some people genuinely give good advise, but not alot of them do. And thats because some people have been drawing for years and even draw as a career. So its been years since many of these artists started from the bottom to get to where they are, which would make them even more reluctant to give sound advice. A lot of the advice i see here on RUclips take very little regard as of the learners skill level and provides lottle context. It makes it it that much harder to newbies to learn. I drew for years until i stopped and life got in the way, and when i had free time, I took to writing instead, since i wanted to make my own comic. Ive wrote for so long that im rusty, and i eventually started trying to reteach myself. When i ran into a video that said that drawing every day would improve my art, i was disheartened; i work as a security officer. I work double shifts back to back and most times i get very little sleep. How am i supposed to draw everyday with a life that hectic 😂
the thing with advice is that, ultimately, it is not universally applicable or appropriate in every situation. you are right that some artists will throw out very broad and non-specific advice if they are incapable (or unwilling) of conveying what a person should do to get from step A to B. HOWEVER, the advice to remain consistent is not useless, just circumstantial. top example off the top of my head is pewdiepie. he had people pissed a few months ago because he made one drawing every day and got better results over time. however, he was able to do that because he had the right circumstances to try and see if that advice would help him. there is an audience for certain suggestions--what matters is discerning if that audience is you.
Personally as an artist I can't give people good advice purely because I don't know how tf I make art EKDKDK Drawing everyday definitely isn't very good advice, drawing once every week is enough to keep your skills afloat. Drawing everyday can be good, but like... only if you know what you're doing.
I feel like the “no reference” advice is even worse if you’re talking about drawing animals especially. I can tell from experience that there’s going to be alot of details your going to miss if you try to do it by memory (did you know animal tusks tend to be located under the eye, not necessarily with the rest of the teeth? I didn’t before looking at pictures of them closely)
I can't stand when art teachers will tell you not to do something but won't explain why. Or will expect you to know a technique they're supposed to be teaching you. It just gives off that they dont know how to teach, or that they dont know why they shouldnt do something but were told before and didnt question it.
Biggest bad advice I had been told was to just give up and that drawing is only a hobby or for kids. I still enjoy drawing and want to improve but I've been told constantly to just give up on the kid's hobby.
I remember when I was in elementary school my art teacher was getting mad at the class for not painting well. I asked what I did wrong and she just kept repeating herself, saying you should know what you did wrong!
28:57 Using Black and White is like using an unmuted green in your painting with the logic being that because the color is so strong and so noticeable, if you use it then you run the risk of everyone's eye going straight to that and missing out on everything else. So with Green, you mix in other colors to lessen it's intensity. With Black, you mix in the warm or cool colors of your choice to shade the color or make your own black from other colors. And with white, you just substitute it with a brighter color of the mid-tone of whatever you're working on or you tint it with another color that's almost as bright. The thing is that it's not a hard and fast rule that has to be applied and there are plenty of artists that will reach for a Mars Black or a Titanium White and call it a day. But if you're broke and a traditional artist, then it is a good way to learn how to use a limited color palette that doesn't destroy your funds. As for digital, well it reins you in because now you have to think about what to use and what not to use. Something like that.
I am the #1 enemy of people who give bad art advice (I use references often, my lines are rarely if ever smooth, colour is usually not perfectly in the lines, and I don't draw every day)
The worst art advice I got was "Don't draw anime it will stunt your growth as an artist. Focus on realism" which I guess kinda makes sense. But the only reason I draw as a hobby is to draw cartoon/anime characters, though I have drawn realism in the past it's just not for me
Do you know who had art block? Ken Sugimori. It was said that he had art block when trying to make the Flygon Mega Evolution. And I’m sure that he wasn’t digital drawing at least in that time and part of the drawing process.
My only gripe is how inconsistent a lot of these methods are paired with people telling you which is the CORRECT way, only to have them "debunked" by another artist Just stick to tutorials online..
Online tutorials can be just as bad. I find the easiest way is take elements you like from various sources and mix them together and most of the time you will find what works best for you - a hybrid style 😊
im following your channel since day 1, i was kinda upset when you stopped showing us your fantastic tutorials that help us alot, me in particular to develop ... but recently i was so pleased even more to watch your videos, since you are now one of the few who speaks for us :) so i really appreciate it , i was also one of the few who got a shout out, on your early videos XD ... so thanks again
gosh i remember!! i really miss making art videos again and i want to get back to making them. its just going to be alot of work managing both channels but i'll try!
@@MohammedAgbadi I really do know how time consuming that would be, lol Hicham Habchi's art and how you introduced him in your channel, DAYSSS .. i really wish you the best :) kindly keep up the good work
I never use referebce in my art, I hate how ugly it looks when i do, and i drew better without refrence usually, BUT i usually hand out the advice to use refrence to my beginner artist friends
“Draw everyday” is the bane of my existence, as I’ve found out that my art tends to go through cycles of deliberate practice, fun pieces, inactivity, and experimentation/back to basics. It’s very off again, on again, but that’s just how I am. If I can harness that natural pattern and put more focus in it, I think my art will improve more consistently. No need to rush, it’s all for fun and I’ve got the rest of my life❤
Best advice I could give that I’m trying to follow myself is to: 1.) avoid social media 2.) focus on one fundamental/ art course or book at a time 3.) finish projects/ what you’re learning to completion 4.) break down tasks in half until it feels managable (ex. i wanna work for 1 hour, but that’s too long. Ok 30 minutes. Ehhh 15 minutes daily? Ok that’s managable. You’ll often do more than 15 minutes, maybe longer than the initial goal. But starting, and consistency, are the most difficult to maintain. Make that consistent goal a fraction to begin with and keep momentum.) 5.) Find the fun in the practice. Sometimes the work will drag or you won’t want to, but for the majority of the time it shouldn’t be a drag. It shouldn’t be just for an algorithm. There should be a portion of your work for you. This could be practicing fundamentals on your favorite characters. Or favorite concept. Whatever works for you. I’ve found with so much advice, courses, videos, books, so much useful and not useful info, but regardless doing it all at once will do you no good. Find your way. What works for you. And stick with it. Because just following shorts online are gonna be a mix of conflicting short info that won’t work together or lead exponentially like a course may with projects.
My art teacher banned me from an entire art style because she thought I was "leaning on it too much". I had to completely change my art style, which was anime inspired at the time. I find out after I graduate that her favorite students in a lower class was then allowed to use anime as an art style. I can't pretend I understand how you can lean on an art style. I haven't really had an art style of my own until recently and I can't draw anything too animeesque anymore because I wasn't encouraged to practice that.
May I share a perspective? When a teacher sais you're leaning too heavy into your style, what he really wants to tell you is, that he can't teach you. Imagine you want to draw manga style drawings. Imagine you'd ask a professor of fine arts in Florence who specializes on the sfumato technique. He can't teach you sfumato because the technique is useless to you. He can be blunt and tell you that he can't teach you, sure. But how would you understand the message? It can go many extreme ways. Either you go full defense and hate the professors guts for his audacity. Or you implode and turn your back on art because you think you are just unworthy. Or you begin to interpret and try to convince the professor, making him super uncomfortable. Or you ... You see, telling you that you lean into your style is acknowledging what you can do in the hope that you will head on that path, without at the same chipping his own armor making him see that there are worlds where he him self is a novice. Or in other words: There are no perfect words for any kind of rejection. If there were ever to be a next time for you, maybe first figure out if your teacher has something you need to learn from.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I will keep saying it: drawing everyday is such bad and unattainable advice, not just because it's so vague like you said but also I genuinely don't understand why how in every single occupation, it is understood and encouraged that you need to take breaks to recharge, but art is somehow this special occupation that is completely immune to the concept of burnout. Try to draw consistently, and practice with a focused intent... but don't burn yourself by trying to draw every single day no matter what.
"yeah your art is bad don't use that art style it isn't allowed at this school and try doing a different style" when i have over 5yrs of experience of working on comic book art (EDIT: I DONT JUST DO COMIC ART)
Worthless advice: "just keep practicing", "draw every day", or any other variation of _keep reinforcing what you're doing wrong in the hope you can eventually brute-force your way to improving._ Good advice: have a specific goal in mind (and I don't mean big picture, although that helps too, I mean _one specific drawing),_ choose one detail of that to practice, find a reference (pinterest and sketchfab are your friends), and draw that _from all sides._ That's what worked for me, at least.
I am guilty of giving the advice “the more you draw the better you get” only because I was talking to an 8 year old who wouldn’t give a crap about advanced stuff yet and just needs to learn what drawing is before they can actually do it. I’m a lot older and I just wanted to say that you’ll get more experience as you keep going and you will get better with age in simpler terms
I relate to this video so heavily. When I first started drawing more seriously in middle school anime is where I get my references from if I had stuck with that I probably would be really good at anime and human faces and stuff like that, but I followed bad advice and felt awful for using references and replicating artwork and tracing to some extent, I never claim that this was my art. I never claim that I created these ideas but got to the point where I felt like if I didn’t draw from memory, I was a bad artist so I focused on a few very specific things although I got really good at that, it also wasn’t fully anatomically correct and there were things that I still struggle with because of that. Now that I’m taking a different approach and become a tattoo artist, I’ve learned so much more references and tracing to improve my work and being inspired by other artists. As long as you’re not claiming someone else’s work as your own, there is nothing wrong with references and tracing awesome video dude.
from a non-artist(my mom) - "why does he look sad? make him happier." well damn, I'm sorry I'm trying to learn to draw emotions, like what?this is exactly why I never show you my drawings
My favorite advice from my art teacher was that, as an artist, you aren't a camera, you're a translator. Perfectly measuring everything to be exactly how it is in real life or in your image makes your piece worse, because the human eye doesn't see the world exactly as it is, our brains naturally simplify and block out stuff, so you should draw what your eyes see rather than match what's there. Hearing this over and over really got me out of my little perfectionist head and allowed me to enjoy the whole process of creating a lot more.
Oh my god, the drawing every single day was something I followed. It left me feeling more like my hobby was a f*cking deadend job. I was a sophomore in high school. Now, I just try to draw at least every week or so, or even just engage creatively once a week. I love art, always have, and always will.
Draw everyday is imo the worst advice not only because of the vagueness of what to draw but drawing everyday is just not going to be as beneficial as drawing and having a break day where you don't draw anything. Our brains need time to relax and just do nothing is extremely important especially for learning. People should prioritize having at least one or two days a week where they aren't doing drawing/art and have a secondary hobby just to change up your week and learning a new skill or having fun with another hobby will honestly make you grow faster in art. Along with keeping drawing fun. I got into a really really really bad habit for years where I'd draw once and a blue moon getting done like 3 pieces of art the entire year because I constantly was trying to improve by only studying it sucked the fun out of it and stagnated my progress. Upon picking up guitar I realized how fun it was just learning something, especially something new and started to approach art from a more fun perspective again. In the last 3 months, I've seen more improvement than I have in years because I started actually drawing again and not just studying but also prioritizing having a break day each week to avoid burnout but to also avoid feeling stuck. Coming back to art after a break day is so refreshing. It's that progress I see that becomes very addicting and is fun to see being able to look back at art I did not even 6 months ago and go "Damn that is all sorts of wacky" and seeing how much I've improved is great and that progress is very much linked to not only the general mindset shift but also in how I've approach art more recently. Also treat yourself like you would a friend mainly because we are way harder on ourselves, especially as artists/creatives. I also noticed this, especially with Pewdiepie and is kinda of what made me switch my mindset he had fun and he improved because of that, effort in + having fun is key to learning anything if you are bored you likely aren't as engaged, and aren't going to be improving at the speed you actually could be. Practice shouldn't be boring tedious at times absolutely but never boring. When people say everyone's journey is different it's partly because we are all different and we need to figure out ways for us to solve problems ourselves another issue I dealt with was overly relying on tutorials. Tutorials are meant to give you understanding but aren't a direct replacement for actually doing the thing yourself or just copying it 1:1 and not exploring what's being taught on your own. I noticed with one of my friends she doesn't really follow tutorials she just draws and has fun with it and tries things out and while art isn't a career goal for her she's been improving loads because she figures stuff out herself, and is having fun along with trying new mediums/experimenting. I'm a highly creative person and always have been but what held me back in art was forcing myself to draw every day and had practice be boring it significantly held back my true potential as I started to find art boring, along with overly relying on tutorials to teach me the magic sauce
I agree, I used to draw every day. The drawing usually looks horrible. It was only when I stopped and watched a tutorial that I improved. In fact, I improved in 1 night more than an entire year
Im not an artist but im trying to learn and a big one ive heard is "You have to master realism before doing any kind of stylization." Is this good or bad advice? It makes sense to me but as I'm not an artist I dont know
I've not heard that on before. It's comes across you have to master photo realistic painting before you call yourself an artist 😂. People get too hung up on realism look at abstract figurative art it's no way realistic. Learn the basics, see how other artists do it and from there you can develop your own style - nobody has a unique style it's always a collection of elements from other sources.
People who say that don't really understand what they're saying. If you really do want to improve by a lot, understanding anatomy is what they might be talking about. Understanding anatomy can help you a lot, especially if you want to make a dynamic pose or just draw a regular pose. Idk if this made sense at all but basically, you don't have to master realism, just understand anatomy and physics too and then go wild.
I've had so much bad art advice over the years.. ranging from changing my style entirely to throwing away every tool that I learned starting out with anime because they aren't loomis... even to being made fun of for using guidelines when sketching the face??? It's insane.
0:53 I literally just started drawing on my phone 😭😭 (one time I was at the mall and I overheard someone saying "you shouldn't use reference because that's basically copying" HUH)
LIKE FR- The only reason I'm decent at art now (been drawing for a few months) is because I'm using refrences and trying to understand things better with it 😭 drawing with no references first thing is such a bad idea.
It's honestly shocking how much useless advice I've received...none of it worked. 😓 I was told once to change my whole art style to improve by someone 😭
I never follow random people's advices, just professional artist like Modare/Mogoon
@Khann_2102 I follow advice that I know would help me in the specific topic I'm trying to achieve. Wanna learn perspective, start with dimple 3d share perspective to get the general concept and all those shapes can be combined to one bigger image.
@@nor-MAL-cy Yeah, Marco Bucci and Marc Brunet are one of the best for that
@@nor-MAL-cy keep creating
Yeah kinda bad advice, takes the fun out of drawing. I'd say it applies only when you're doing a study.
I like how my art mentor put it for me "art is a hobby, art is for fun, use everything that you are given. Do not limit yourself, your not taking an exam."
Great advice. I believe everyone can do art - even if it's abstract, a form of expression and emotions. That's why there's Art Therapy and those who go are not artists. Many do take up art after though.
I don't like that advice because "art is a hobby" sounds so limiting. Sometimes you draw for money, sometimes you aren't being paid but are making a gift and want to make it match someone else's tastes. Like if you're only doing it for yourself, as a hobby, then that's great but I find art for other people fun too
Edit to add: art doesn't need to be fun either. Sometimes it can be painful but cathartic and sometimes you spend several hours feeling frustrated because you can't get that one bit to look right but it was so satisfying to finish and now you've got a new skill
@@ah-sh9dw you're making a good point about the potential of art being something different than a "hobby" or "just for fun". but also it does start as a hobby for most people so a lot will relate to the advice op mentioned.
@@ah-sh9dw yeah but if you start art without considering it as an hobby, you might not have fun, and you'll stop
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h I never would've got into art if I considered it a hobby and just for fun. If my teacher said that to me, I'd probably be completely put off of art by it
"That isn't REAL art because it isn't realistic." - My art teacher in 2nd grade after I gave her a drawing of a mermaid :/
Bestie what?? I was 6?? 😭😭
Edit: for those talking about me being 6 in second grade, I was like 8 or something, but I wrote this after pulling an all-nighter so I was barely there man 🙃
bro what??!!
tf did she expect?? that you came out the womb painting the mona lisa with your umbilical cord?????😭😭😭
no way 😭
That’s like saying your photograph isn’t a real one because you took a picture of a Barbie doll like what
I wonder what goes in the mind of those ppl who thinks "real art" is real (wait that is kind of ironic lol) bc isn't art a way to express one-self, interpret topics, or just portraying something imaginary? Like wth bro.
"Stop drawing in an anime like style, no one will hire you unless you draw realism"
This is just.. discouraging when you're just a hobby artist
I remember a few years ago there was a massive kick off regarding this but it was getting into art college/uni. A student was told to don't just draw anime but understand it posture, lighting etc as I never knew there were hundreds of different styles of anime. I'm not an anime artist not a fan of it but have seen some exceptional artwork. Any way this student refused to listen rocked up to art school and was rejected as all they provided was the most generic anime art ever.... Oh boy the Internet kicked off. Thankfully a professional anime artist stepped in and shock a lot saying when he started as an anime artist he had to learn anatomy in detail and agreed that the art school was right.
My attitude is if your art inspires you and you find happiness in it do what the hell you want to do. Ignore the grumbling people they are only jealous half the time they haven't progressed pass stickmen drawings 😂
and it's false.
@@ileniagennari499 It is partially true. Unless you live in Japan and speak Japanese a Japanese anime studio isn't going to hire you. Anime is ridiculously difficult to get into and if that is what you want to do for a career but don't meet those qualifications then you need to try something else. It's just the way that it is.
@@FablestoneSeries This argumentation is kinda bad because western shows have been doing the anime art style for way over a decade now.
But I do think that, the same as drawing everything in the style of the Marcinelle school or Ligne claire, drawing anime/manga style can easily become a crutch. But this also goes for using only a single material, type of ink or paint, medium, etc.
Yes, it is okay to do a single thing as a hobbyist, but exploring other ways to do the same thing is inherently important to the growth of an artist. You also get way more mileage out of it.
It's not a war-crime or anything, which is why a "comic sans bad" reaction to your work is often a bit baffling. Shut up, I'm having a good time.
@@theothertonydutch It is a lesson in tough love for any anime enthusiast, that the best way to getting their dream job is by not directly pursuing their dream job. At least in the field of animation. If you want a job drawing (or writing for that matter) for a specific studio they will ask to see art from that genre but not exactly their IP, because they don't want to be accused of ripping you off, should they already be working on something similar. Just another reason I tell art students to stop doing fan art. Fan art is a road to nowhere.
Explanation on “don’t use black”!!
You can totally use black in your art, but you shouldn’t rely on it as a default to darken your colors when painting. Black is a powerful pigment and it can turn your bright red into a reddish-black VERY quickly. It makes yellow look muddy. USUALLY you want to darken a color with its complimentary color. As a rule, I try to avoid black when I’m mixing my colors unless I want to bring down the color’s chroma or I’m at the very end of mixing the colors and just need it to be a taaaad darker. Or if I want to paint a pure black to offset other colors I’m using.
It’s actually very good advice but it’s meant as a color mixing guide for people who aren’t masters at mixing colors yet and not as a general all-of-art rule.
I make my own black paint - I use Oil paint (don't use it that often) but I do throw a little Crimson in prevents muddying complimentary colours - of curse you can go heavy on the blue or brown side depending what complimentary colours you use.
I try to use blues and purples for shading/darkening. Because lighting and shading irl are not pure white nor pure black. Which is why it can look less realistic or harsh to our eyes on some pieces. I try to save pure black or white for extremely contrasted areas. Things like bright shines or deep crevices/folds. Even then you can still tint them slightly into other colors so they can be off white and off black.
I don't know if this is a good thing to do or not but I like using a thin layer of diluted ink on top. When it isn't mixed in and is just a layer it doesn't muddy things as much.
I am cheap and find it good since it doesn't involve buying more colours and the ink goes down so slowly that its pretty much infinite
Забавно, но большинство красок, что используют художники вместо черного, замешаны на черном пигменте. Индиго, например. Ван Дик Коричневый. Сепия. Но эти же люди избегают черного. А так-то совет верный: затенять все черным плохая идея, потому что черный делает цветную работу плоской. Опытные художники имеют его в палитре, но стараются его не трогать.
And you can actually use black if it makes sense in the background. Old artists from Baroque to Renaissance have dark brownish black backgrounds, which would make sense for using black as shadows.
I am definitely guilty of answering with "I just practice" when people ask me how I started drawing, because I just made little characters and stories and just did my best to convey it. It's a tempting thing to say because when you do it for so long, you don't even think about it.
Like the saying goes, "all art teachers are good artists, but not all artists are good art teachers"
I've gotten to the point where if I feel I can't give meaningful advice, I just tell people "idk, I just drew until I figured it out on my own. Don't ask me for advice".
@@bluejay43 Exactly 😭😭. When people ask me how i got so good, i dont have an answer bc i just keep on drawing 😂
To be fair, "just practice" is sometimes the result of asking an unspecific question like "how do I get better at art" without specificing what exactly do you want to improve on ( you ask a general question you get a general answer I guess) or you were just getting advice from someone who doesn't fully understand what they're doing and just balling with it. (or both of these together)
My go to phrase became "I don't draw since yesterday" when people tell me I'm so talented and they could never etc etc
one's imagination can take them far in their skills in bringing it to life enough for others to get the vibe you yourself are going for
It is one of the thrills of being an artist that I've realized as I continue making pieces.
"i drew off the top of my head, reference is cheating"
Bro, your own memory is a stored REFERENCE
Sometimes people make references without even realizing!
3:09 “don’t use reference”
Leonardo DaVinci: alright Madam Mona Lisa, you can go home.
😂 that’s what I was thinking
If they say "reference is cheating", then say that using recipes for cooking is cheating too
@@jasonyones5103 I think using good, clear recipes is “cheating” if you’re already good in the kitchen (obviously I think that’s as BS as saying you shouldn’t use reference for art) but I would like to share a mildly amusing story about following recipes - one of my friends asked Alexa for a cake recipe last year and followed it pretty much to the letter.
As for how it turned out… her husband told me it was nice knowing me just after I was offered a slice the next day 😂
Some said that he referenced himself as Mona Lisa as his portrait looks kinda like the Mona Lisa
Don't know if that's true or not though (kinda same angle and stuff like that)
If you're inbetweening you'll probably never be using your own art on the job, ever. For probably a decade or more.
And it's your job to draw other peoples' keys. Quite directly.
You can't approximate, you can't add your own spin to it, you _have_ to inbetween your higher-ups frames exactly. Line for line.
None of this cutesy youtuber "copy it, _but not directly"_ speal. You. Must. Refer. Directly.
"______ art style is not valid/ not good" like, if every art style was the same what's the point of doing it???
"acktually, anime and cartoonish style is terrible and bad!1!1! its not physically appealing to me so im gonna throw a hissy fit!! grrr life is hard!!!"
Being told to "Just draw" reminds me of when I was in elementary/middle school being told to "Just focus"
My math teacher always said „just do it“ needless to say the whole class had to retake exams because only 2 people regularly got passing grades.
Honestly everytime my sister asks me for tutorials on how I draw, or asks me for tips on improvement I tell her “Study what you struggle with, and if you get stuck give it a minute and come back to it.” Because that’s what’s worked for me. I use trail and error and study mine and others’ artworks and mistakes so that I may improve.
Yeah when I get stuck with something I hate I start watching tutorials for that said issue.
wait you don't roast her art to no end?? wow you are a good person :0
the people that say "digital art is not for real artists" are so dumb considering the fact that most tv shows, cartoons and movies have ART AND ANIMATION made by PEOPLE on DIGITAL PROGRAMS 😭😭 i swear some ppl need to keep their advice for themselves.
bruh...i heard that also quite recently too
Yeah as a traditional and tablet aka digital artists DAMNNN it was so hard at first and overwhelming bc I didn't know how the program worked
@@dowon_btwsnap. But the love for traditional oil paint was too strong for me lol. Maybe I'll try digital again in the future but for me at this moment in time is not for me. 😊
You have a point but it goes both ways I've seen digital artists who only do Anime start lecturing other artist who did anatomical figurative art - he was told it's all wrong and the complaining individual proceeded to "anime" up the art and say this is the correct way? 😂
The Art World is a funny place and loads of misconceptions. I hear it a lot as I use Oil Paints and there are some sectors who do nothing but demonise it as "Dangerous". All art mediums have health risks - digital art will have some eye strain to carpal tunnel syndrome in some 😂.
@@Mark-nh2hs I do think in general art is very gatekeepy. It's weird because at the end of the day IMO as long as you yourself are creating the piece of art it shouldn't matter what you use all digital does is condense the tools of traditional into a program with some exceptions such as transform tools which as far as i know are unique to digital and does help speed up workflow and tends to be more cost effective at least within the developed world. I enjoy both but tend to switch it up when I feel a bit stuck with one. I honestly think I'd be a bit disappointed though if I started with digital and never had my first drawings traditional because it's super cool having a sketchbook of old drawings/doodles you did years back. Digital is harder to learn if you start with traditional because unless you got a screen tablet which even then you still will feel kinda disconnected from your art. Hard to beat that pencil on paper feel and the friction you get traditionally that is hard to get the same sensation on digital and graphic tablets just feel weird if your used to traditional at least while learning em
the art community was doomed from art lore
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I think every human is born an artist, being creative is a human trait. Just some people loose the childlike wonder for art on their way to growing and some (artists) are keeping drawing. And sometimes people who lost it on their way, are starting as adults anew and I think that's wonderful 👏
Look at very young children art they can create some truly amazing abstract art. I remember an abstract artist saying the secret of abstract is to activate your inner 3 year old and don't focus on anything empty the mind of what you been taught lol.
@@Mark-nh2hs Also if I may add, Picasso said: "It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child." - and I think it's not to take it in literally but I understand it like: to loose yourself in your craft like an unrestrained child. Only then can you unchain your full potential. I think.
And art comes in many forms, not just pictures
Everyone can be an artists but your point isn’t true. Their are definitive differences in each humans brain that WILL cause another artist to be ‘better’ than the other because art is the human view on reality(or the opposite). This is counting for most art styles, not the abstract ones.
everyone can draw lol
"You didn't finish! There is still white!!!!" or "Why didn't you use 'true' colours???"
Omg i always hated people saying that the art should have no more paper white
How to make someone go from "ah nice a good task" to "omg nooooo"
Got that from art teacher
but also from one other teacher at the time we had to make drawings in our first page of lessons books in middle school
@@Orez-SukeI think watercolour artists would disagree with them. As I'm sure they use white paper negative spaces for highlights
@@Mark-nh2hs we indeed use paper white for highlights 👌
Frrr they tell/ask me “eww draw a background” so do you wanna draw a jungle? “Ugh stop drawing cats that’s not real art!” Like your stick cats know what real art is
What's negative space, precious?
"Draw everyday."
Okay, what so I draw?
"Just draw what's right in front of you."
Everyday?
"Yes. After 10,000 hours maybe you'll be a 'real artist, like me."
ngl that kinda reminds me of yatora from blue period when all he would draw and practice were still-lifes
Uggghhh I hate when people tell me that, like brother, I want to draw people, as you can tell from me only drawing people, drawing my cereal bowl isn't going to help "but it helps with lighting and-" no, shut up, that's not what I need to practice rn
I haven't draw in few months
You don’t have to draw complex subjects but you should try to draw close to daily for 10 minutes at least. Draw what you don’t know. Idk how to draw fabric but I’ve been drawing the wrinkles on my shirt for about a month now and now I know how light bounces between creases. I still don’t know how to draw a flowy dress but I’m already better than before.
You have to strike while the iron is hot to cement the technique.
draw what you like until it look like the thing you like
People say don't use a ruler but i can't even use it right😭
That's like saying "Don't use a pencil". Just draw with your mind.
Rulers are only used for smacking someone's hand when they try to "borrow* one of your art supplies 😂
I mean I don't usually use a ruler but then again I typically go for organic stuff rather than structures. Rulers are pretty helpful when drawing buildings and some perspective stuff lol. Imagine squiggly houses.
(Use rulers. That's why they were invented- because they are needed!)
My ruler: shift+click
One of my Professors once said "Not every Teacher is a Good Professional, and not every Professional is a Good Teacher".
And throughout the years I've seen how REAL that is.
The main things that really helped get my art to the next level are 1) all objects are made out of planes and 2) simplifying planes into straight-edged shapes is the quickest way to understand those planes and create the illusion of 3 dimensionality.
weirdly, drawing clothes ruffles helped me learn a lot 😅 i did not understand what perspective was,,,
I used to be one to say “I don’t use references” but I eventually realized that I was using references without knowing. I’ve looked at my hand to see if the one on my drawing is backwards or not, I use references from my head (like if I want to draw an animal I saw the other day). Plus a lot of my art has features ,like big feet, that I implemented because of other artists I admire. We all use references weather we realize it or not
EDIT: holy crap stop fighting in the replies 😭
You could create an art piece and someone could point it out that oh that's like this or that artist - someone you never heard off. Until you remember 6 years ago you flicked through one of his artbooks 😂 it's there subconsciously 😂
Anyone who says, "don't use reference", is in for a hell of a shock if they ever get hired at studio.
Pretty sure that's the point of saying so. You don't just generate something outta your mind out of literal void, it's all things you've seen and understood before, but when they say done use references ig they are talking about straight up copying something without understanding how it works, so you can make yourself remember such learnings when in need instead of just relying on images you're seeing already.
@@doodleoffice221 Studios have style boards. They take their animators on field trips to see real life reference.They encourage animators to act out scenes. I can not state this strongly enough. USE REFERENCE is the mantra by which all studios live by. And tracing... is encouraged. even ENFORCED. You learn by tracing the work of artists better than yourself. Disney has been tracing their own work for 100 years.
The only people saying don't trace or don't use reference are the amateurs and hobbyists.
@@FablestoneSeries studios aren't standards for art learning, they will do anything that saves time and accelerate the process as long as it's legal, that's why theses heavy copy pasting and and pretty much the extinction of 2d animation. Another bigger reason is standardization, people working in a project don't automatically know what they are doing to do, hence they get provided everything necessary to make everything as clear as possible, otherwise there would be stylistic differences between each of their works. Studios don't teach you art, you're there cuz you already know it, their purpose is to make a project work, one of which invoices the whole communication process of trying to let people know the goal.
Idk why you're trying to restate the whole "use references" statement, I was just trying to clarify the meaning behind the saying, which I directly said was "copying something without understanding" essentially working like a printer instead of not using anything classified as "references" which is literally everything. Things you listed in the name of referencing are part of study, involves learning, and what I am saying what they mean by referencing is not having the learning part itself. Tracing is a common beginner's technique to learn, to get control over lines by stimulating it. But if you're doing this without understanding what artists intend by making such lines, it's useless. You can learn _faster_ with tracing, but better than yourself? Impossible, you don't know others work better than you know your own work.
The reference one is easily the worst for me.
Some of the greatest artist of our generation AND past generations were pretty reliant on using SAID references. Hell man like let’s take it to anime a highly popular form of art in today’s society. THAT uses reference, like nearly every mangaka uses references from kishimoto (Naruto) to people like Oda (one piece) and etc.
If you’re starting art, don’t be scared of using references. You don’t need them for LITERALLY EVERYTHING. But it’s not immoral to use, of course see how you work without references sometimes so you can understand what you need to improve on. But references aren’t bad to use and never have been, been that way for literal hundreds of years😭
"But you need an iPad for digital drawings so your art is actually good." Like what? Uh, I just suck lmao, drawing w/my fingers have nothing to do with it? Sure it may be easier but it won't make me better.
😭😭😭😭bro what?!!
I cannot imagine drawing with a finger (my broke artist days were whatever pencil i had in school and my 40 cent notebook), but expensive tablets and programs and brushes really do not make a difference when it comes to fundamentals. Styluses just let you have better control over line weight.
The one thing I'm gonna give digital art an edge on is that when drawing details you can redo the same part several times in a few seconds easily until you feel satisfied
If you didn't forget to do it on a separate layer
I'm using mouse and laptop for digital drawing lol
@@MohammedAgbadi Fingers are for free 💪
So i did the whole "get inundated by other artists art advice to the point where i stopped making art" thing, and while there was some beneficial advice out there, a lot of it is just used to push those artists into the very popular learning algorithm (no shade for that either, get that bread anyway you can). That being said, i think a lot of people pursuing art can get caught up in the "learning" loop and not the more beneficial practice loop.
Unprofessional, hobbyist art creator advice: i found an old art book while thrifting one day, and have been attempting to study just from that book because i was so enamored by the artists style. This has helped me feel motivated to sketch and paint again, but your results may vary. Happy creating friends!
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I actually took a college level art class where we studied the fundamentals of drawing and this was one of the techniques we used. It was supposed to teach us how to “sync” your eye with your hand and focus on observing and your object and its details rather than focusing on your drawing.
I remember my professor saying: “how do you plan to draw something if you don’t observe it and know how it looks like?”
In short words: Observe and learn more than what you draw.
It's a good exercise for sure
I had the same thing in my drawing class along with upside-down drawings
@@OhanaJohanwhat do you mean upside down drawing ?
Seriously when I was younger I was encouraged to use reference by a critique and my art only became better.
Especially when it's not a subject (like say a wild animal) that one can't easily actually view, sets someone up to have some of the worst anatomy possible.
Digital art is amazing.
The list goes on…
Thank you for this video and for calling out bs
One piece of "advice" I've heard is using the bucket fill tool is "cheating".
And another piece is your art always has to be perfect. As in lines have to be smooth, colour has to be within the lines that sort of thing.
So fucking watercolor isn’t real art
This is kinda unrelated, but this comment reminded me of Minecraft players complaining about beds for making the game "too easy" when if they didn't exist you would just stay inside your house for 10 minutes doing nothing until the sun rises. I know this doesn't have anything to do with art, but it reminded me of that "You should do the more boring, time-consuming option instead of a simple solution for the same results".
Depending on the artstyle, you may want to do mess lines on purpose, or you might not want to use lines at all.
@@Josue_S_6411Yess, sometimes the lines are just a guide i paint over, sometimes theyre the main focus, its fun
One of my favourite pieces of advice came from a friend who does not consider himself an artist but it was similar to what you said later in the video, but it was something along the lines of. "Nothing in nature is perfect, so don't always strive for perfection". I was worried about things being uneven and something just looking off so I would scrap so many pieces, I still have that problem, but working on it :)
0:52 as someone who drew everyday, it’s good to learn fast or your bored at school or something, it helped me and I bet it helped others, but some tips that helped me
When you start, ALWAYS start simple with a simple but realistic. Like a cartoon. Then when your ready, start focusing on realism and anatomy, once your done you can go to an art style you like!
Art community always have gate keeper point the worst direction as much as they can so u wont improve to their level , its real even when u work inside a art company
Worst art advice i got, buisness kind and unprompted "You should paint some other stuff that isn't girly." My specialty is feminine subjects. In person I get a lot of compliments over my gals and other works.
My favorite art advice that was drawing, it came from a manga book and it is more "rule of thumb" so it is a base idea of how to draw. But hands length usually matches face length. Or why people use drawing utensils too understand length
I hate the "don't use references" advice, human memory isn't perfect and a reference is like a safety net that helps you to know that you won't forget any details cause all of them are right there! I used to think that this advice was good advice, and i had no clue why my drawings always looked bad, but once i started using references improved my work by a million. Even if your art isn't realistic having a reference so you can understand pose dynamics, proportions, etc.
Drawing animals is one thing the NEEDS references.
The ball shading example is an example of a BEGINNER PRACTICING. The article is obviously intended to boost confidence, and if it looks like a photo image, or a skilled sketch of a stylized ball, like the examples you "suggested," it would be overly daunting and off-putting to new artists.
Some people just need encouragement. My partner's kiddo is like that. She just needs to hear someone say, "you're getting better, keep going," and she doesn't really need "advice" when she asks how to get better. She will get better with time, and that's the whole common theme to all the "bad advice" which isn't really all that bad, just poorly worded. Encourage newer artists to keep making art. It helps
partner as in you are two detectives working on a case together?
Some people : dont use references
Portrait artists :
I use reference a lot! Like i drew one them ( its in community posts
I am so glad I found this video! I was fortunate to have professors with experience of working in the industry (animation and video games) encouraging my class to use references whether it's a photo or a live video, just don't trace it lol especially I find professional artists who are honest use artist references in their art tutorials whereas other "artists" who claim they draw without using any reference at all are most likely lying.
"Practice every day" made me feel so inadequate when i wasn't making enough finished products
Contour drawings are a fundamental and helpful practice though. One of the first things I taught in my drawing class in college, and it really helped me make more realistic outlines. I recommend it to people who want to help their line structure and especially hand-to-eye coordination
Worst art advice I got from my mom as a little kid was "hide the hands behind the back because youre not good at drawing them" really hindered my art development for a bit. Obviously the way I got better at drawing hands was to draw hands 😑
I've always felt that art should be fun first. If it starts feeling like a chore, what's the point?
"No sketchy lines." OK, _why?_ If your literal sketch is jerky and fuzzy, this is actually fine. If your next layer is still a little jerky, this is still fine. You want smoothness when you're doing something you actually want to be seen, your final draft is the only thing that is going to be presented, so be as chaotic as you need to be. You don't have to fear the fuzz, you don't have to stress about the fuzz. As you continue to make cleaned-up pieces, your sketches will eventually follow to be more confident. And if the sketches _don't_ look less hairy, so what? If you have solid line art over that, clearly you know how follow your own chaos, sooooooooo... What are we being bothered by in the first place? A part of the process is _ALWAYS_ going to make you go: "Wow! What a mess! I hate looking at this!" No matter how skilled an artist you are, that is a fact. You can let the sketch be a puddle of gross hair if you like. So long as *YOU* can follow along with it, you can make it clear and clean later.
Proko often gives that kind of advice and then proceeds to add a digital layer and refine the lines on top of his first sketchy layer.
He gives the advice because he sais, that the line confidence can be seen and is appreciated by even the people who have no clue about art.
sometimes i got people bothered by this even though i was doing realism lmao
Getting the sentence of "you're limiting yourself, I know you can do much better" after being limited to using only the pictures in a certain book, not being allowed to use a picture someone else had used already, there only being a total of 3 pictures left to choose from, all three being pattern wood cuts (so no real "action" happening), only being allowed to use a single colour.... Like, lady: Not only are YOU the one limiting me, the only reason I was behind on that specific assingment was because I had been TO THE HOSPITAL the day you gave it out! And that was a regular occurence since I had a chronic illness that was kicking my butt.
If you're going to limit kids on certain things, at least give us some leniency when we are actively trying to.. yknow... go to school despite needing strong meds?
It was over 18 years ago, and I still remember that. Weirdest thing was, otherwise she was a lovely teacher.
"With a decend amount of skil-" GYYYYYAAATTT😨😨😨
anyways, PREACH🗣🔥🔥⁉️
He got a wham, GYAT DAMN 😍😍🔥🔥
i gyatta have a piece
Preach? More like peach 🍑 🥵
Drawing every day will make you better, even just warm ups. Improves line quality, even if you don't 'line' your art work, clean sketches are better than messy especially if you're a beginner.
Build good practices, improve muscle memory. I understand that people may not have the time to do this, it's unrealistic for them, but either way it's still true.
Worst advice i got was from a "friend". She came into my house, stole my sketchbook, called my art ugly, then told me i should stop using references because its cheating and its making my art worse (i dont like them)
you art style/proccess is a mosaic of every piece of media you've ever been inspired by and i think thats beautiful
"Hair isnt supposed to be fluffy" DID THEY EVER SEE SOMEONE BEFORE???
My hair is very fluffy
I won’t ask what you were thinking when making that drawing at 0:05
BUTTS
“Just let the creativity flow”
No, give me something to put in my mind to put on paper, I ask “what should I draw?” They say “idk” like JUSTGIVEMEONETHINGTHATISNTADOGORCATOMFGGYJIJCBCIJGGYJIJCBASIDNCIJANEDNMKS
my god SAME!
i personally think there's two types of artists: Those who can only create if told "create whatever you want" and Those who can only create if told "today's goal is to draw a box shape".
Sadly I'm the latter type of the artist. I can only make fanart and replicate someone else's style or create from somebody else's discarded ideas or concept art from scrapped or terminated games and movies/ shows! I was commissioned once to create an original character and I can't even do it! (i had to decline the job and willingly gave away all the concepts I had made for them because I was incredibly ashamed of my inability)
And now in this age of the internet where art is now very hyper competitive, I have to give up my pursuit of being an artist. Like... what else is there for me? I have the sense to know it's really a bad showing professionally that you can't make anything but fanart!
"start at anatomy & figure drawing" & ive been overwhelmed for the last 6 years
"Never use black" obviously conflicts with a lot of art practice. Anders Zorn e.g. created the Zorn palette which just uses Cadmium Red Yellow Ochre, Titanium White and Black with a slight blueish tint to substitute a blue.
Dont' use black is a good advice for watercolor. You should learn how to mix colors both in the sense of hitting the right hue, but also with mixing paint consistencies/concentrations for your value. And then apply them light to dark in layers. Using black can be helpful later on, but it sets you back in your watercolor journey if you use it too early. Make your own black out of yellow, red and blue.
On a more serious note, I fell for the no reference lie when I was a teen and had time and energy to draw 5 hours a day. I don’t want to think about where I would be if I had attempted to learn how to draw things by looking at things. Yeah, I drew the same thing every day, I got good at drawing horrible anatomy abominations who all looked the same.
Now that I’m depressed, tired, work full time and have to take care of my household, I struggle to draw at all so progress is absolutely glacial.
Also sarcastic shoutout to my art teachers who NEVER BROUGHT UP REFERENCE IN ANY CONTEXT
I'm not sure if this counts as art advice, but one that really stings that I get a lot is: "I liked your old style better, you should go back to that."
I changed it for a reason, thank you very much. Thanks for making me feel like my art progression was actually regression.
5:50 I actually think it isn't as basic as you think it is. For teaching a complete beginner it is better to never assume what the beginner should already know. I honestly think why some "pros" are bad at teaching is because they assume too much for the student to handle. It comes from the bias of the pros belittling the basics because they're already so good they forgot how hard it was in the beginning.
The advice I give people most is to fall in love with the process and not the product. You will want to keep going if you enjoy it rather than just do it for the result
You can make wicked bad "art" and be forever unsattisfied when you fall in love with the process and ignore the outcome.
Pride in ones own work is not to be undervalued.
People love the pride of the finished work. That's why stable diffusion generated pictures are so treasured by people who don't want to do the process leg work.
@@Herr_Vorragender It’s literally not that deep.
I’m just saying to enjoy what you’re doing so you don’t get discouraged by seeing what other people make. Bringing up ai is irrelevant.
as someone who has passed my beginner-artist stage. here's my REAL advice no bs.
1) don't start art tools collection, it'll lead to nothing but money wastage. just buy ONE good quality pencil/tool. after you got good, you can start experimenting with other tools.
2) use reference, a lot. don't be ashamed of having to use reference. i have a friend that started drawing months before me and he always make fun of me for using one. now i'm way ahead of him improvement wise meanwhile he still draws awkwardly squished face.
3) watch other artists draw. you will learn a lot such as grips, strokes, tools used, paper gsm, technique, etc. make sure to apply what you learned to your art, and see if it works.
4) use guidelines, almost the same as advice 2). don't be ashamed.
5) BUILD LINE CONFIDENCE! DON'T CHICKEN SCRATCH. practice one long stroke instead of a multiple short ones. chicken scratching will destroy your brain and muscle memory. preventing you from building good line confidence.
6) don't be precious with your sketchbook. trust me, that big sketchbook you buy is just one in hundreds of your other sketchbook in the future. it ain't special.
7) burnout stages are real. and you'll undergo multiple of those especially if you have ADHD like me. if you're facing one right now, step away and learn to draw other things, so that when you come back to drawing your favourite piece, you are now equipped with new skills of drawing other things.
8) tweak and change other artist's tutorial to your comfort/liking/understanding. like me, i changed the loomis method to my own style yet it works the same.
9) learn to draw one same shape in various different angles. trust me this will help you draw in 3D A LOT.
10) lastly, ask yourself, are you ready to dive into the world of art. cause art is a constant-learning hobby. you won't get good at it quick. and once you do, you'll realise the ocean goes deeper. even for a decade long artists. it's a constant learning, trying, failing, success, burnout and repeat, for years and years on end. so yeah, ask yourself this before blindly jumping into art.
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In high school, “constructive criticism” in any “physical media art,” though today that also includes “digital art,” will be among ONE OF, if not THE MOST important subjects you’ll ever learn while taking an art class or while currently in an art class in high school; and the reason I’m focusing on high school is because you have yet to take the plunge into Art College, and or the next plunge into adulthood.
Note: all my experiences I am mentioning above were in a public high school in California, USA, in the early to mid-1990s,
It's the same today, though this is something we now usually save until university. When I was taking art classes in college, critiques were something we practiced often. Thankfully, only few were too stupid to understand it (and I say that because these particular few were apathetic a-holes whose art was so bad, yet they had the audacity to act like they ruled the world). There was specifically one person I refused to critique, because they always say the most problematic sh*t (ironically, they are "an activist" and shout at anyone who likes Harry Potter 😐), and can you guess what their art looked like? Actual doodoo. I could've critiqued them, but I refuse to help anyone who hates people (and improvement) that much. (Also this person thought saying "not to sound like an asshole...." only to then say something really offensive ALL THE TIME was okay... even in critique!!! they stank so bad)
So I think we are already seeing the downfall of proper criticism. Media literacy is dying, and media literacy rules REAL criticism. Critics exist to make media better, but now they exist just to... complain? About everything? And then these same people LOVE the most brainrot garbage possible. We are so screwed 😭 I can't imagine how art critique circles are going to become in the next 10 years....
@@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78 preach, but try actually having a critical thought on a forum, it's " art can be whatever I feel like" all the way down followed by a lot of screaming...
Art fight. The pressure to not disappoint makes my pieces from attacks so much better
one time I was at a event for my sister’s elementary school, and I was just sketching out a face to draw on(I was drawing Yuji Itadori), and the art teacher, who was walking by, said, “don’t sketch, it means you’re unconfident if you can’t draw what you want immedietly” or smth like that
This might come off as a rant, but i thought itd be best to be honest here. Anyway this is my experience:
Saying "Get better by drawing everyday" is the artists equivalent of "If you want to find the right person to date, just be yourself." It just comes off as something said to get the person asking off the artists back, and the advise is so nebulous that its next to useless.
Some people genuinely give good advise, but not alot of them do. And thats because some people have been drawing for years and even draw as a career. So its been years since many of these artists started from the bottom to get to where they are, which would make them even more reluctant to give sound advice. A lot of the advice i see here on RUclips take very little regard as of the learners skill level and provides lottle context. It makes it it that much harder to newbies to learn.
I drew for years until i stopped and life got in the way, and when i had free time, I took to writing instead, since i wanted to make my own comic. Ive wrote for so long that im rusty, and i eventually started trying to reteach myself. When i ran into a video that said that drawing every day would improve my art, i was disheartened; i work as a security officer. I work double shifts back to back and most times i get very little sleep. How am i supposed to draw everyday with a life that hectic 😂
the thing with advice is that, ultimately, it is not universally applicable or appropriate in every situation. you are right that some artists will throw out very broad and non-specific advice if they are incapable (or unwilling) of conveying what a person should do to get from step A to B. HOWEVER, the advice to remain consistent is not useless, just circumstantial. top example off the top of my head is pewdiepie. he had people pissed a few months ago because he made one drawing every day and got better results over time. however, he was able to do that because he had the right circumstances to try and see if that advice would help him.
there is an audience for certain suggestions--what matters is discerning if that audience is you.
Personally as an artist I can't give people good advice purely because I don't know how tf I make art EKDKDK
Drawing everyday definitely isn't very good advice, drawing once every week is enough to keep your skills afloat. Drawing everyday can be good, but like... only if you know what you're doing.
I feel like the “no reference” advice is even worse if you’re talking about drawing animals especially. I can tell from experience that there’s going to be alot of details your going to miss if you try to do it by memory
(did you know animal tusks tend to be located under the eye, not necessarily with the rest of the teeth? I didn’t before looking at pictures of them closely)
I can't stand when art teachers will tell you not to do something but won't explain why. Or will expect you to know a technique they're supposed to be teaching you. It just gives off that they dont know how to teach, or that they dont know why they shouldnt do something but were told before and didnt question it.
Biggest bad advice I had been told was to just give up and that drawing is only a hobby or for kids. I still enjoy drawing and want to improve but I've been told constantly to just give up on the kid's hobby.
Oooo a new art channel I found, time to subscribe!
I remember when I was in elementary school my art teacher was getting mad at the class for not painting well. I asked what I did wrong and she just kept repeating herself, saying you should know what you did wrong!
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Using Black and White is like using an unmuted green in your painting with the logic being that because the color is so strong and so noticeable, if you use it then you run the risk of everyone's eye going straight to that and missing out on everything else. So with Green, you mix in other colors to lessen it's intensity. With Black, you mix in the warm or cool colors of your choice to shade the color or make your own black from other colors. And with white, you just substitute it with a brighter color of the mid-tone of whatever you're working on or you tint it with another color that's almost as bright.
The thing is that it's not a hard and fast rule that has to be applied and there are plenty of artists that will reach for a Mars Black or a Titanium White and call it a day. But if you're broke and a traditional artist, then it is a good way to learn how to use a limited color palette that doesn't destroy your funds. As for digital, well it reins you in because now you have to think about what to use and what not to use. Something like that.
I am the #1 enemy of people who give bad art advice (I use references often, my lines are rarely if ever smooth, colour is usually not perfectly in the lines, and I don't draw every day)
The worst art advice I got was "Don't draw anime it will stunt your growth as an artist. Focus on realism" which I guess kinda makes sense. But the only reason I draw as a hobby is to draw cartoon/anime characters, though I have drawn realism in the past it's just not for me
"Dont use digital art because it can give you artblock" BESTIE WHAT.
Do you know who had art block? Ken Sugimori. It was said that he had art block when trying to make the Flygon Mega Evolution. And I’m sure that he wasn’t digital drawing at least in that time and part of the drawing process.
@@jrartstudios422 true, but i find it funny how most of the time i get motivation from digital art and some artists too
How I Am i going to animate then I do not know how to or have enough money to animate like og disney
My only gripe is how inconsistent a lot of these methods are paired with people telling you which is the CORRECT way, only to have them "debunked" by another artist
Just stick to tutorials online..
Online tutorials can be just as bad. I find the easiest way is take elements you like from various sources and mix them together and most of the time you will find what works best for you - a hybrid style 😊
Thank you for shedding light on this for real. 😩💖
im following your channel since day 1, i was kinda upset when you stopped showing us your fantastic tutorials that help us alot, me in particular to develop ... but recently i was so pleased even more to watch your videos, since you are now one of the few who speaks for us :) so i really appreciate it , i was also one of the few who got a shout out, on your early videos XD ... so thanks again
gosh i remember!! i really miss making art videos again and i want to get back to making them. its just going to be alot of work managing both channels but i'll try!
@@MohammedAgbadi I really do know how time consuming that would be, lol Hicham Habchi's art and how you introduced him in your channel, DAYSSS .. i really wish you the best :) kindly keep up the good work
My teacher in first grade was like ,, Are ur arms that thin like on the drawing?” LIKE EXCUSE ME I WAS 6? LET ME DRAW MY STICK ARMS
I never use referebce in my art, I hate how ugly it looks when i do, and i drew better without refrence usually, BUT i usually hand out the advice to use refrence to my beginner artist friends
“Draw everyday” is the bane of my existence, as I’ve found out that my art tends to go through cycles of deliberate practice, fun pieces, inactivity, and experimentation/back to basics. It’s very off again, on again, but that’s just how I am. If I can harness that natural pattern and put more focus in it, I think my art will improve more consistently. No need to rush, it’s all for fun and I’ve got the rest of my life❤
agreed, i only draw when i want to, cause if you don't the art will look a lot worse, lowering your love for art even more
Best advice I could give that I’m trying to follow myself is to:
1.) avoid social media
2.) focus on one fundamental/ art course or book at a time
3.) finish projects/ what you’re learning to completion
4.) break down tasks in half until it feels managable (ex. i wanna work for 1 hour, but that’s too long. Ok 30 minutes. Ehhh 15 minutes daily? Ok that’s managable. You’ll often do more than 15 minutes, maybe longer than the initial goal. But starting, and consistency, are the most difficult to maintain. Make that consistent goal a fraction to begin with and keep momentum.)
5.) Find the fun in the practice. Sometimes the work will drag or you won’t want to, but for the majority of the time it shouldn’t be a drag. It shouldn’t be just for an algorithm. There should be a portion of your work for you. This could be practicing fundamentals on your favorite characters. Or favorite concept. Whatever works for you.
I’ve found with so much advice, courses, videos, books, so much useful and not useful info, but regardless doing it all at once will do you no good. Find your way. What works for you. And stick with it. Because just following shorts online are gonna be a mix of conflicting short info that won’t work together or lead exponentially like a course may with projects.
Totally agree! Especially with #3. A lot of young artists are afraid to finish projects
My art teacher banned me from an entire art style because she thought I was "leaning on it too much". I had to completely change my art style, which was anime inspired at the time.
I find out after I graduate that her favorite students in a lower class was then allowed to use anime as an art style. I can't pretend I understand how you can lean on an art style. I haven't really had an art style of my own until recently and I can't draw anything too animeesque anymore because I wasn't encouraged to practice that.
May I share a perspective?
When a teacher sais you're leaning too heavy into your style, what he really wants to tell you is, that he can't teach you.
Imagine you want to draw manga style drawings. Imagine you'd ask a professor of fine arts in Florence who specializes on the sfumato technique.
He can't teach you sfumato because the technique is useless to you.
He can be blunt and tell you that he can't teach you, sure. But how would you understand the message? It can go many extreme ways.
Either you go full defense and hate the professors guts for his audacity. Or you implode and turn your back on art because you think you are just unworthy. Or you begin to interpret and try to convince the professor, making him super uncomfortable. Or you ...
You see, telling you that you lean into your style is acknowledging what you can do in the hope that you will head on that path, without at the same chipping his own armor making him see that there are worlds where he him self is a novice.
Or in other words: There are no perfect words for any kind of rejection.
If there were ever to be a next time for you, maybe first figure out if your teacher has something you need to learn from.
Im exited for a series!
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I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I will keep saying it: drawing everyday is such bad and unattainable advice, not just because it's so vague like you said but also I genuinely don't understand why how in every single occupation, it is understood and encouraged that you need to take breaks to recharge, but art is somehow this special occupation that is completely immune to the concept of burnout. Try to draw consistently, and practice with a focused intent... but don't burn yourself by trying to draw every single day no matter what.
"yeah your art is bad don't use that art style it isn't allowed at this school and try doing a different style" when i have over 5yrs of experience of working on comic book art (EDIT: I DONT JUST DO COMIC ART)
Worthless advice: "just keep practicing", "draw every day", or any other variation of _keep reinforcing what you're doing wrong in the hope you can eventually brute-force your way to improving._
Good advice: have a specific goal in mind (and I don't mean big picture, although that helps too, I mean _one specific drawing),_ choose one detail of that to practice, find a reference (pinterest and sketchfab are your friends), and draw that _from all sides._ That's what worked for me, at least.
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I am guilty of giving the advice “the more you draw the better you get” only because I was talking to an 8 year old who wouldn’t give a crap about advanced stuff yet and just needs to learn what drawing is before they can actually do it. I’m a lot older and I just wanted to say that you’ll get more experience as you keep going and you will get better with age in simpler terms
i havent heard someone say "digital art isnt real art" in years luckily, pretty sure people stopped believing that, at least i hope so
digital art and non-digital art are completely different, both with different challenges, but they are the same in difficulty, and are both still art
The worse advice I was ever told was ‘just use flatter colors and air brush for shading!’. I felt my soul CLIMBING out my body
Your videos are amazing dude im watching it rn
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I relate to this video so heavily. When I first started drawing more seriously in middle school anime is where I get my references from if I had stuck with that I probably would be really good at anime and human faces and stuff like that, but I followed bad advice and felt awful for using references and replicating artwork and tracing to some extent, I never claim that this was my art. I never claim that I created these ideas but got to the point where I felt like if I didn’t draw from memory, I was a bad artist so I focused on a few very specific things although I got really good at that, it also wasn’t fully anatomically correct and there were things that I still struggle with because of that. Now that I’m taking a different approach and become a tattoo artist, I’ve learned so much more references and tracing to improve my work and being inspired by other artists. As long as you’re not claiming someone else’s work as your own, there is nothing wrong with references and tracing awesome video dude.
from a non-artist(my mom) - "why does he look sad? make him happier." well damn, I'm sorry I'm trying to learn to draw emotions, like what?this is exactly why I never show you my drawings
Artists are so miserable, good god.
I don't think that is count as artistic advice, more like a genuine question.
@@SavaMirIALT God, internet artists are obnoxiously miserable.
@@dogevoadoriii yo! can you elaborate on that please? just a little confused by your reply, I don't mean no offence or anything
@@alvindzaki6594 unless she says that everytime I show her my drawings.. it's a little annoying and exhausting
"You can only draw the horizon in the middle" this advice from my elementary teacher YEARSSS ago. STILL MESSES ME UP!!!
This man LOVES boondocks, he’s got the ruckus music, and the gangstalicios clip
My favorite advice from my art teacher was that, as an artist, you aren't a camera, you're a translator. Perfectly measuring everything to be exactly how it is in real life or in your image makes your piece worse, because the human eye doesn't see the world exactly as it is, our brains naturally simplify and block out stuff, so you should draw what your eyes see rather than match what's there.
Hearing this over and over really got me out of my little perfectionist head and allowed me to enjoy the whole process of creating a lot more.
Someone told me to QUIT because I was bad😭(this was like 5 years ago)
Oh my god, the drawing every single day was something I followed. It left me feeling more like my hobby was a f*cking deadend job. I was a sophomore in high school.
Now, I just try to draw at least every week or so, or even just engage creatively once a week.
I love art, always have, and always will.
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Draw everyday is imo the worst advice not only because of the vagueness of what to draw but drawing everyday is just not going to be as beneficial as drawing and having a break day where you don't draw anything. Our brains need time to relax and just do nothing is extremely important especially for learning. People should prioritize having at least one or two days a week where they aren't doing drawing/art and have a secondary hobby just to change up your week and learning a new skill or having fun with another hobby will honestly make you grow faster in art. Along with keeping drawing fun.
I got into a really really really bad habit for years where I'd draw once and a blue moon getting done like 3 pieces of art the entire year because I constantly was trying to improve by only studying it sucked the fun out of it and stagnated my progress. Upon picking up guitar I realized how fun it was just learning something, especially something new and started to approach art from a more fun perspective again. In the last 3 months, I've seen more improvement than I have in years because I started actually drawing again and not just studying but also prioritizing having a break day each week to avoid burnout but to also avoid feeling stuck. Coming back to art after a break day is so refreshing.
It's that progress I see that becomes very addicting and is fun to see being able to look back at art I did not even 6 months ago and go "Damn that is all sorts of wacky" and seeing how much I've improved is great and that progress is very much linked to not only the general mindset shift but also in how I've approach art more recently. Also treat yourself like you would a friend mainly because we are way harder on ourselves, especially as artists/creatives. I also noticed this, especially with Pewdiepie and is kinda of what made me switch my mindset he had fun and he improved because of that, effort in + having fun is key to learning anything if you are bored you likely aren't as engaged, and aren't going to be improving at the speed you actually could be.
Practice shouldn't be boring tedious at times absolutely but never boring. When people say everyone's journey is different it's partly because we are all different and we need to figure out ways for us to solve problems ourselves another issue I dealt with was overly relying on tutorials. Tutorials are meant to give you understanding but aren't a direct replacement for actually doing the thing yourself or just copying it 1:1 and not exploring what's being taught on your own. I noticed with one of my friends she doesn't really follow tutorials she just draws and has fun with it and tries things out and while art isn't a career goal for her she's been improving loads because she figures stuff out herself, and is having fun along with trying new mediums/experimenting.
I'm a highly creative person and always have been but what held me back in art was forcing myself to draw every day and had practice be boring it significantly held back my true potential as I started to find art boring, along with overly relying on tutorials to teach me the magic sauce
I agree, I used to draw every day. The drawing usually looks horrible. It was only when I stopped and watched a tutorial that I improved. In fact, I improved in 1 night more than an entire year
Excited for this series
ALSO LOVE THE TWISTS 😁
Im not an artist but im trying to learn and a big one ive heard is "You have to master realism before doing any kind of stylization." Is this good or bad advice? It makes sense to me but as I'm not an artist I dont know
I've not heard that on before. It's comes across you have to master photo realistic painting before you call yourself an artist 😂. People get too hung up on realism look at abstract figurative art it's no way realistic. Learn the basics, see how other artists do it and from there you can develop your own style - nobody has a unique style it's always a collection of elements from other sources.
People who say that don't really understand what they're saying. If you really do want to improve by a lot, understanding anatomy is what they might be talking about. Understanding anatomy can help you a lot, especially if you want to make a dynamic pose or just draw a regular pose. Idk if this made sense at all but basically, you don't have to master realism, just understand anatomy and physics too and then go wild.
i draw realism, and no, that is NOT the case, i can't draw another artstyle for my life 😭
I've had so much bad art advice over the years.. ranging from changing my style entirely to throwing away every tool that I learned starting out with anime because they aren't loomis... even to being made fun of for using guidelines when sketching the face??? It's insane.
0:53 We're in this ai art apocalypse right now and there are people still talking crap about digital art? What year are we in?
"Dont flip the canvas bcause after you see the bad side you lose motivation"
Ille lose motivation on drawing if i cant figure out why it looks bad😭
0:53 I literally just started drawing on my phone 😭😭 (one time I was at the mall and I overheard someone saying "you shouldn't use reference because that's basically copying" HUH)
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?? All the great traditional artists used reference lol
LIKE FR- The only reason I'm decent at art now (been drawing for a few months) is because I'm using refrences and trying to understand things better with it 😭 drawing with no references first thing is such a bad idea.