>opens app >gives misinformation that 'works' for them >leaves >does the entire thing for no reason at all since tiktok gives you mcdonalds overworked minimum waged employee money
whenever I saw the painting at 21:50 I thought "wow that's such an awesome painting, I love it!!" but I knew exactly what the comments were going to be saying. Sometimes I think the internet was a mistake.
same though honestly i was like "oh! thats impressive and well drawn" but my smile faded quickly as i saw people calling abstract art "not art" they genuinely dont think theres other types of art i swear
they literally just make a tutorial on how "THEY" draw this thing not how "TO" draw. They dont even explain why this part of body can be like this or something.
no legit. theyve spent yearssss finding techniques and methods to better their art and then showing how they do it is just plain wrong. its extremely unhelpful and comes across as just showing off instead of actually teaching something
@@falcon_arkaigI used to tell people that I can literally get in poses I can get into on r/badwomensanatomy then find some photo of usually a gymnast or dancer in that position. It’s a very fun subreddit but it was full of posts from people who have clearly never seen anyone with hypermobility for a while, leading to the rules around what art is allowed. We’re talking action and dramatic poses, not general impossible cartoony art or weird ribbon bodies.
We went from people going “PEOPLE CAN DRAW WHATEVER AND HOWEVER THEY WANT HOW DARE YOU” to “How to draw in MY style, but not tell anyone that it’s about drawing in my style and not explain how to do it or why”
22:45 The last video was someone responding to a DM they got. The DM said that the only reason they draw well is because of their expensive supplies. The author of the video used the opportunity to say that it doesn't matter how expensive your supplies are and that sometimes limiting yourself to fewer or cheaper tools might aid to your creative process. The comments are trying to agree, I guess.
^ This. Basically. But there are nuances that aren't touched on. Certain tools are indeed simpler to work with, and you cannot achieve the same effects without those specific tools. HOWEVER, this says nothing about drawing skill. Those extra effects are icing on top, *not* the main part of the cake. If the basic cake sucks, the cake sucks. The icing only helps cover those flaws a bit and makes the cake a bit more palatable, but isn't going to make the cake good if it is a total train-wreck that is burnt and dry with too much salt in it. I'd rather have a good basic cake without icing than a dried-out, burnt trainwreck that has icing drizzled on top An elaboration on the scenario with a specific example: Prismacolor Pencils. Those are typically the "top of the line" colored pencils and get pushed super, *super* hard for anyone drawing with colored pencil. Crayola colored pencils are considered the "cheap, school-supply" version. You can still make *very* good works with Crayola colored pencils. (Funny enough, Crayola isn't even bad quality -- there's actually *worse* colored pencils out there that are almost straight up chalk). Now... you want to know the irony? Crayola was actually recommended as one of the colored pencils to use by one of the books I read for drawing with colored pencils that I skimmed through more than a decade back - with the author distinguishing between different pencils being "hard wax" and "soft wax." Crayola was labeled a 'hard wax' pencil, Prismacolor (the basic line that gets promoted) is labeled 'soft wax.' They are used for different purposes (or require slightly different methods for the greatest effectiveness) when drawing. Prismacolor has a specific dedicated line for "hard wax" but that's another thing entirely, and probably wasn't relevant when that book was made Something on the opposite end of the spectrum with where the tool actually does have an impact is with digital art, in particular with programs. Some programs simply do not have the same functionality as others. But this is again going back to the cake analogy -- better tools make it easier to cover up and hide poor skill and things that are slightly lacking, but won't fix core issues for you automatically. Better ingredients and tools aren't going to hide the fact that you are mixing up salt for sugar and that you are burning everything in the pan. You can make a fancier cake with the fancier equipment and ingredients, but that's only possible if you actually have the skills to do so - otherwise you end up with an inedible abomination That said, certain cases... you *do* actually want to have the best tools possible if you plan on getting deep into art from the get-go. But that isn't in all cases and scenarios. When it comes to basic drawing and skills for drawing...? You don't actually need those higher end materials/tools when starting out for the basics. In fact, higher end materials can end up being a detriment as they become crutches that keep you from figuring out your mistakes instead. However, you *do* want to make sure you have the proper tools for the job. You don't want to have only one large flat brush or one large round brush for everything if you need different types of brushes to paint what you want. Imagine needing to paint details with only large brushes available... or maybe not even having a proper palate knife when mixing thicker paints and instead using a brush and contaminating everything with it instead. Or worse with every single brush cleaning container being absolutely filthy so whatever brush you try to use with it ends up getting dirty and contaminated - when you are trying to paint bright and vibrant colors!! (thanks afterschool art classes for children that didn't bother supplying proper materials so everything was a painful mess)
@@gaerekxenos 100% agree. The difference between professional grade watercolors and student grade is literally night and day. I was once told by a professor that at a certain point in your art career you need to invest in good supplies because you don't want to be fighting with your material. You just want it to do what you want.
It goes to show that the phrase "those that can't do, teach" comes from people not understanding that teaching IS a skill in itself and being good at something doesn't guarantee that you will be as good as passing on that ability to others.
Or it comes from a bunch of showoffs and shit teachers thinking they know best but are in fact incompetent. The bad apples will forever ruin it for everyone.
People need to heard this. I don't know if every education system had this or not, but in my country, "pure degree" and its "teaching degree" is separated. I mean, for example English degree. You will have English department and English TEACHING department. Since learning about English and what-not for your own is different when you want to share it to other.
@@valhatan3907 Yes. In the UK, where I'm from, you have degrees in a subject and then pass a year long post-grad in teaching that subject that has work experience as a requirement for graduation.
Every time I see those "Wrong Right" tutorials I laugh. Like i remember seeing a "wrong" wrist pose in a tutorial and bc I have hyper mobility I could do that "wrong" wrist pose EASILY. These Right / Wrong tutorials are extremely oversimplified or downright wrong sometimes.
Reminds me of how when i start working on a drawing i want to actually finish up and have it look good (or practice) i try doing the pose i wanna draw if its an idle one or something i can feel for a long enough time while trying to mimic
Ugh I HATE those tutorials! I don't have hypermobility but my fingers still manage to look "off". There is even diversity in hands! There is no real wrong or right in the human body (shapewise).
Hypermobile person here! I often draw characters in a set way because I reference myself for my works a lot. Oftentimes I actually have to scale down the flexibility of a character because I'm so used to seeing myself. Makes making characters a little challenging, but I roll with drawing body diversity anyway. These artists acting like drawing diversity is too hard are lying to themselves and are just douches. If I as someone with an abnormal body can draw characters just fine, there's no excuse for these quote un quote "artists"
I think most of the hate for abstract art comes from how 75% of it is a money laundering scam, 20% is actual trash by trash artists trying to gaslight you into thinking it is good and the last 5% is good art hidden under the money laundering and trash
Money laundered absract art/crappy artist does NOT make up the majority of abstract peices existing in the world. That stuff still grinds mg gears but its not the fault of the style
It's the difference between hotel wall art and art museum abstract art, one is meant to fill a space with some generic shapes and colors and the other is meant to evoke an emotion in an abstract way
@@peachesncharlotte Unfortunately, part of it is definitely the fault of the style -- being that it is too easy to mistake and mix up with other things when you throw all of the background behind the piece out the window. Early criticisms on abstract art were that "a child can do this" - and that has been a common criticism that has lasted for a ridiculously long time. So much that you will still get distasteful comments along those lines on art in general with "even a child can make art" (eg. See one of the Fiverr commercials that was on RUclips about... was it 8~9 years ago...?) People simply don't understand Abstract art a lot of the time. And so a lot of people aren't going to place much value in it, unfortunately. I personally don't care too much about Abstract art, but I am aware of the background of where it stems from and parts of its original ideas and have some appreciation for its origins. On the other hand, half the people out there who see abstract art probably aren't even aware of what that background is, so they're not even going to have that as a base-line for appreciation
24:15 this comment is saying that expensive art supplies are helpful to have. it can be easier to create better quality stuff because more expensive art supplies are professionally made (instead of cheaply made for the masses). but it is still entirely dependent on the skill. Someone can’t expect to use expensive art supplies and get amazing art without knowing how to use them first.
Definitely. For example, expensive colored pencils create much more solid of colors and blend WAY better. A professional can use Crayola pencils and make something good, but if they used Prismacolor, it’s going to be more vibrant and defined.
22:02 it’s crazy how people don’t know abstract art is a thing. My mother has some paintings she made and most are abstract. She can draw really well though. I remember her telling me how she drew clothes on people, literally draws them accurately naked then puts the clothes overtop
Random ass comment but I genuinely love your videos. It’s like listening to a podcast with your calm voice & it helps when I’m trying to work on something (including art ironically enough). I appreciate the effort you put into your videos and how you explain the topics.
Late stage Tumblr was the prelude to tick tock tutorials (and everything else toxic with tick tock). Some of them set me back quite a bit- I was a pretty vulnerable teenager. They just loved to shame people for not doing certain things or for certain stylistic choices. Now it seems the exact same cess thriving on tick tock. So glad I don't use it
The rise of fandom culture went hand-in-hand with the rise of toxicity and cancel culture. I miss early tumblr when everything was stupid and everyone was okay with it.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesI think RUclips cringe comps, deviantranters, and story time critics who all peddled the idea that insulting and belittling artists over ugly art is okay so long as you label it “opinion” and “critique” is 1000% more responsible for TikTok’s current attitude than shitty tumblr fandoms
Bro I could be under a completely unrelated to art reel on Instagram and someone will respond to my comment being like "ur art sucks lol". LIKE WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?? Anyways, Instagram has the same problem.
@@ghostratsarah were you on RUclips literally any time before 2016? Literally everything wrong with TikTok is just an exacerbated version of what RUclips did first. Tumblr is/was toxic as all get out in its own right, but harassment and insults under the guise of “criticism” is 100% something that originated from ye olde RUclips cringe comps and deviantart ranters.
Quality also means archival a lot of the time. I love bic pens but they fade and wouldn’t want to do a piece with it to sell. But I love sketching (especially when hiking, lightweight) with them and wish they would come out with brown ink bic pens!!
Professional grade art supplies don't make art creation easier but they usually guarantee longevity of the piece if it's traditional (lightfastness) , or are made with more expensive ingredients so you get brighter colors (certain minerals + less binders for certain paints). Here's some really fun information: You can make gallery quality art with things are cheap as crayons or crayola dye based markers, or ye old dollarstore highlighters and pens. You want to make it last forever? Draw in your sketchbook where closing the book will make your piece last longer. Scan it and print it. You can make great art with these cheapo things and make merch with it. I just wouldn't necessarily want to sell the original because it will fade quickly.
they do. you're right too but good supplies *do* make it easier. example: cheap colored pencils aren't soft so you need to apply much more force for the color payoff that you want, you're often would ruin your paper sooner. they also don't blend and can't be layered. - so yes you can use them of course but you will need to put in much more effort when could've got same results faster and easier
22:02 This section in particular made my blood boil, it was incredibly obvious that a lot of intentional thought and honed skill went into this piece as evidenced by them LITERALLY SHOWING THEM PAINTING but 15yos who have only ever seen weirdly shiny skinned faux-anime people on Pinterest just don’t get it. Idk, maybe it’s not my place to get this angry, it’s just upsetting seeing people put a lot of work into something and only get thrashed and shit on for it. EDIT: 24:08 ????????????????
It was a fun speedpaint. Showing how simple lines and colors can add to something interesting and complex. The art supplies comment was just really badly worded but ended up agreeing with the OP anyway.
Talking about heads (Talking Heads?) done wrong and admitting you've done the same really resonated for me. Yesterday I did some sketches of dynamic poses, fencing-like sword duels, and reviewing them this morning I couldn't help but notice the look of their heads. Or lack thereof. Some had rudimentary balloons, others had some details but resembled omelettes more than faces. Poses looked okay for the most part, but my laziness ended up detracting from the whole image
Tbh the Kollern ones especially are so annoying. Like “DRaw A RAMeN BowL” NO. Just say something like “draw a flattened half circle” it especially stupid if they don’t explain WHAT the shape is for. LIKE WHAT
Fr, her art turtorial didn’t explain anything about the eye. Also it only applies to that one pose, eyes are a sphere and are drawn and shaded as such, yet she didn’t explain that at all.
@@RDrawzDragonzThat’s especially goofy cause artists are supposed to imagine drawings as 3D, but she’s doubling down on encouraging viewers (by saying stuff like ‘ramen bowl’ for an oval) to imagine 2d shapes in place of that. o_o idk i’m just so done w/ how popular she is
@@pancakestrouble2429 bro Fr, She’s still a beginner artist but she’s acting like she’s skilled enough to make tutorials, there’s nothing wrong with being a beginner but her making these tutorials hurts other beginners progress!
@@RDrawzDragonz Yeah! And she even admits she’s making art content for popularity (“clout”) rather than to share her nonexistent skills. So she’s kinda trying to misinform the largest amount of viewers possible
i usually dont really like artists who try so hard to be funny with "gen z humor" stuff in their art tutorials tbh (like kooleen for example) i find it kind of corny. but im ashamed to say that the 1st time i laughed at an art tutorial was at 18:40 like in what situation that would be useful lmaooooo
I did nearly 10 years in art school and i have 0 idea what these tiktok tutorials are doing. When i make a tutorial (usually how i colour hair or how to sketch a hand etc) i try make it super basic
as an artist who both grew up watching art tutorials and also went to art school, it hurts me how some beginners always believes that the reason why a person draws so well is because of their art supplies. my professor once told me, " A good artist never blames their art supplies."
To play devil’s advocate for ‘draw this not that’ tutorials somewhat, the most useful ones are the ones that point out common anatomy mistakes that may *look* okay on their own, until you compare them to the ‘correct’ drawing and realize ‘oh wait that does look off.’ The problem is that it is way too easy for someone to present a deliberate art style choice they don’t like as a ‘common anatomy mistake’ and it’s damn near impossible to tell the difference because it turns into a non-falsifiable statement. I think anime side mouth is a great example, it’s true that it’s not how IRL anatomy works, but it’s a deliberate art style choice that makes communicating emotion in profile view vastly easier and more natural looking depending on the art in question. *FullMetal Alchemist* has side mouth art, and it has some of the best expression work of any visual media period and straight up would not look as good if it were drawing “correctly.” But even to this day you’ll still find people who insist it’s an objectively incorrect way to draw side profiles, which is where it goes from ‘helpful advice’ to ‘trying to dictate how people should or shouldn’t draw.’
While I definitely shouldn't have had unrestricted internet access at a young age, I am glad that I got to experience art tutorials from creators like Jazza and LavenderTowne and got into art early instead of getting into art now and watching lack luster art tutorials that are super mean.
Around 18:00, the part where you were talking about overwhelming editing, I could completely understand what kooleen was saying but that other guy I comprehended nothing. I’m a beginner artist, so I could be considered a sample of all the beginners out there that had no idea what he was saying.
i'm actually familiar with the first guy's other content, and it makes this one look like satire about how art tutorials don't fit on tiktok, that they either end up with barely any detail or overstuffed with too much detail. it's also missing his trademark "why stop heeeeeeeeeere" his other tutorials are actually fairly decent, at least i've never had trouble following them, but i think those have more to do with what he covers, stuff that's just more suited to short instructions and don't involve maths.
6:02 ... i feel like the perfect addition to this moment would be unnecessary vine booms and 28 random ahh trending sounds in the background all at the same time 😆🥰
I once saw a trend in videos telling people to stop doing line art and that's when i knew it was time to go to put my phone down and evaluate my life choices...
The "don't make foot as little hills" part is an example of art style, I guess. I hate drawing feet, I only draw characters with All Stars or boots, I dont have a reason to draw their toes, so I just do it, it's consistently a part of my style now lol. But I *do* know how to draw it, in case I ever need.
1:45 I’m subbed to this guy and basically- and really he does yt shorts and long form content but he mainly does the tuts for entertainment purposes- I mean like he mainly does entertainment stuff
I use a random mechanical pencil I found on the floor of a subway and printer paper to draw, I color my art with a $10 crayola marker pack my grandma bought me when I was 6. You don't need shit to make good art, you need creativity. You don't even have to know what you're doing, as long as you have fun, and put effort into making something, its art.
24:20 trying to say getting newer tools creates efficiency but without your skill to use them they are practically useless. Agreeing to the og vid that was basically saying having cheap tools creates limitations, but the light of it is that it promotes creativity to work with what you have. And even if you have the crazy expensive tools its not gonna magically make your art better.
I mostly draw in an "anime" style but I still learned realistic anatomy and shading. I draw in my style 99%percent of the time but sometimes a little reminder on this can really help a lot ! Of course it shouldn't be an obligation
You don't have to of course, but you can't deny it's useful if you want to improve your drawings in a certain way (in terms of correct proportions in posings and knowing where everything goes, etc.). You can't learn how to swim if you don't know which parts you should move and how to move them. Just like you can't draw dynamic posing or perspective drawings without understanding and learning anatomy.
@@JustEvelynAndArt yeah, knowing basic anatomy can be good but i'm talking about people who think you need to be able to draw in a super realistic style before you're allowed to have fun with your art.
bcs of tiktoks and reels, i just cant sit and draw what i love and what i want.. i always need to consider what should i draw to attract attention and interest in 5 seconds and whats popular with stupid trends. and still, i need to know how to MARKETING and be a INFLUENCER while sharing my art. Being artist not enough, you must know how to entertain people. Be comedian, be story teller, be teacher and etc, I hate the every aspect of social media
I've changed my art style at least 100 times, big and small changes, and I think every artist SHOULD change their styles and work with things outside of their comfort zone. Art shouldn't be stagnant, plus it's always good practice and you might find a new piece of style you enjoy!
This stuff is partly why I'm so happy to be getting a space in a server I'm part of to help provide a place to learn and ask questions without this garbage crawling after them. Half of the "tutorials" rely on the viewer already knowing something of the basics, which is the issue to begin with when the viewer doesn't have those
as an engineer, construction lines are essential in schematics, but if they are not explained properly they are completely meaningless. a good example where the construction lines are not properly explained in drawing tutorial is the rule of thirds. it IS regurgitated and repeated ad infinitum, but rarely if ever is it actually explained properly. from tolerances, precise ratios for features within each third, the overshoot of each third, impact of perspective and more. most of those are left in the "just practice" category which means that every person learning is following the basic rules but than use a lot of trial and error on an already solved problem to reach the same conclusion.
The fact that an artist is just using the tools and supplies they want to use and someone projects their emotions onto them simply because they dont have those things and cant afford those things. Thats so sad
The guy you showed for the short just before 2:42 actually helped me understand some things better in art that I had trouble doing so... this one is not great though... But those on perspective, I totally got them. But I get your point and agree with most of it
Me personally, my art style is kind of cartoony, could fall into the category of someone who’s spent about half their used lifespan learning to draw anime and only managed to make it look remotely like anime 2 years ago. These tips don’t work for me sometimes, but am I going to dismiss it as useless garbage or invalidate it? NOPE. These people have miles more experience than I do in the art field, and I know that I can’t do better yet. These people need to learn that sentiment too.
I'd like to see you do a video discussing the problematic nature of entitled artists, particularly PacificNoir on deviantart. PN is a (Russian I think) realism artist who feels under threat whenever he/she sees any art done in a similar fashion, laying bold claims to drawing horse's eyelashes and mane-styles in certain ways and believing anyone who draws realistic horses are thieves. PN has harassed and somewhat threatened people and has a massive following, while also drawing some rather questionable content and being called out for directly tracing photos of horses down to the shadow while simultaneously having a meltdown over people "referencing" his/her art (aka anyone drawing in a similar style.) I've seen and heard plenty of claims like PN's over the 15 years I've been in the art community, but never all of these claims from one single person lol it's utterly bonkers! And PN gets away with it, mostly. PN's followers just lovebomb the heck outta any discourse and sometimes white knight/witchhunt
honestly i both appreciate and dislike the "know the rules [of art] before you break them" sentiment. on one hand, it is good to learn the fundamentals and there are a lot of good skills and concepts to learn, and its especially good for when youre trying to do a realistic / semi realistic style. but on the other hand, i see it used in an almost condescending context most of the time, and often its just used to put down other artists for not being "good" enough because they dont draw in a realistic style or arent "educated" enough in traditional styles. remember: theres no one way to make art. you dont need to get a billion different degrees from a bunch of fancy art schools just to be able to draw good. everyones styles and artistic journeys are different, and its okay if you dont fully understand the fundamentals of art as long as youre having fun. " know the rules before you break them "
I am nowhere near an experienced artist but I definitely agree with the last tutorial shown: You don't need top tier expensive materials in order to make lovely art, sometimes just a pencil and an eraser in a normal sketchbook works just fine, though I am not doubting that professional or better quality materials can indeed help an artist and their process, but mainly if they know how to use them properly in general, of course there is not only one way to do that but there are bases in order to do freely what you want with the medium you chose. To break the rules you have to know them first! But that's just my take, people can disagree with this statement and that's totally fine.
My art teacher a long time ago once told a story about a toilet seat, it was put in a museum because an artist wanted to provoke a question , the teacher asked us if it was art or not, I think now I understand it, someone had to have created it, which means someone somewhere, designed it, so it could be termed as art, because you use your brain in the same way for art, it was a pretty weird story, and not every piece has to invoke something in someone, sometimes it can just be, and people like it anyway. (Or was it the toilet itself? I can't remember)
Ayy your vids are legendary But since your talking about tutorials, i dislike when drawing something simple is shown as a difficult and tedious task in some tutorials. Like bruv why do others have to complete 24 steps to draw a portion of hair-
Really, they're always so show off-y or pompous. The Don't being a stylized or hyper simple doodle that usually still looks fine, and the Do being a speedpaint of their own style or realism that takes way more steps than it really needs. Or in the worst cases, they take 80 steps to draw the more boring bland person staring right into the camera in a boring pose.
They complete it in 24 steps because i guess they just want it to look perfect and because they’re accurate with details,while this does vary from one style to another i can kinda see where ur coming from,sometimes too much isn’t necessary and that less really is more (but that’s just my personal opinion)
The guy at 24:20 was saying that expensive art supplies are often easier to work with (smoother, more pigmented, etc.) but if doesnt mean much if you dont have the skill. If i spend a bunch of money on fancy oil pastels, it could make me faster at making the same piece, but it doesnt mean much if I dont learn proportions.
Idk why, but making hands is low key less steps than that guy in the first tiktok, idk. Sometimes I feel like more advanced artist tend to get a little too carried. But yeah, Idk
I really agree with the tiktok about how your art supplies don't equate to the quality of your art. Im a digital artist so its a little different but the same idea still stands. You can buy an expensive art program and it will probably make making art easier and allow you access to tools that help elevate your work. But you can also see absolutely GORGEOUS art created on mspaint that an inexperienced artist using the most expensive art program and tablet could not recreate. It has to do with your skill. It does suck when you can't afford the materials you want, but that shouldn't stop you from creating and trying to improve! I also agree that using more limited supplies can even boost creativity! Like sometimes I like to pull up mspaint and sketch with it, I find it can loosen up my lines and keeps me from overthinking. Its fun to work with and try to create the best thing you can, or just a little doodle, using such a limited program. In the end your artwork is going to reflect your skill, not the supplies you have.
I have tutorials on my channel inspired by exactly what you are talking about. The "fixing your art" culture is bleh. We need to teach people what they need to consider before expressing themselves through art so they can have a relaxing fulfilling time. Alot of these tutorials are from people who know how to draw, but will never reach the artistic expression like Frank Miller for example, someone who gets clowned and praised for his work but will die a legend. Great video man!
love the video, would have been really funny if you brought someone who doesn't know how to draw and show them follow along those tik tok tutorials haha
I hate hate hate it when tutorials go ‘draw this little box here and add a circle’ or something. As an artist, I speak with confidence when I say that isn’t getting you anywhere, especially with anatomy. Because bodies are so different and can vary so much, you have to understand what you’re actually drawing in order to get better. I might be being over dramatic about this but 🤷♀
I can see some of the thought process that goes into the "do this not that" images. The first 3 images shown especially. The "dont" images show perfectly valid ways of drawing the thing, but done in a way that beginner artists might do when the actual way they intended to draw it is closer to the "do" images. For example, the one that shows 2 different ways of drawing a stretch is something ive struggled with in the past - drawing the arms bent at a somewhat awkward angle that doesnt convey the stretch as well as allowing the arms to be straight and overlap the head like in the other image. The main problem is that the images, whether intentional or not, send the message that doing it the first way is inherently wrong in all situations, when theyre more useful as showing different ways you might try changing poses up if your first attempt doesnt look quite how you were intending.
20:23 is just 2 different levels of stretch??? Maybe its cause im hypermobile but my arms straighten all the way when i actually stretch. Wilkd concept but your arms actually *can* touch the side of your head. Yeah it is important to consider how the body bends around other body parts, but they also interact and squish so... both are right. The blue body just isnt stretching as much as the pink one, but theyre both anatomically sound.
my hope is that short form content will, in the right conditions, improve much much faster than long form content, as its easy to make and easy to tweak. Those conditions dont actually exist right now though, your content isnt judged by the algorithm on how good it is at what its meant to do, its judged on how entertaining it is, and how agreeable it is to whichever community its recommended to. Someday we'll get a good algorithm for short form content and there will be a generation of super geniuses or something.
I do not trust short form content, or normal art tutorials. I watch speepaints and pray that I guessed their process right while also wondering wtf is a multiply layer (Still don't tbh)
Having the anatomy knowledge is useful, even if your style uses unrealistic proportions, you want to make them look unrealistic in a BELIEVEABLE WAY not just blindly doing whatever, it has to look purposeful or it'll just look like crap
The last Tik Tok speaks to me especially because I know that no matter which tools you use, you can still create something with it! Also not to call out someone but a very famous artist who used to work at Disney and streams on here and Twitch stated that YOU NEED expensive stuff to create good art which was kinda shocking to me to hear.
One way that short-form tutorials can be great great are in software tutorials (Photoshop, Krita, Blender, etc). Explaining ways to use brush packs, blending mode layers, lesser-known shortcuts, etc. Little tips that can help you USE a program to create art.
*_what did you have for lunch today? wrong answers only_*
bowl full o nails
Infants
Your mom
yarn
I didn’t have lunch I’m starving my self
tiktok art tutorials in a nutshell:
step 1) you are a racist
step 2) give up
step 3) ???
step 4) profit
>opens app
>gives misinformation that 'works' for them
>leaves
>does the entire thing for no reason at all since tiktok gives you mcdonalds overworked minimum waged employee money
This feels like a HB reference- (helluva boss btw, sorry for not specifying lol)
You ain't radist if you hate everybody!
@@kiv3745alternatively
>give vague advice that beginners will mistake as true fact
@@BasicSolara what reference
Tiktok art tuts are mostly so braindead or the most helpful thing you will see. No in betweens
My farts are better than Mohammed Agbadi's farts.
lmfaoo this comment has W rizz
@@MohammedAgbadilobotomy 😭
@@MohammedAgbadi is it skibidi rizz🗣️😻😝🤨🥵🥶👹
True
They would hate Picasso if they hate aptract art
wait till they find out the whole movement
Can we make a "we hate picasso for his shit personality" club
@@jagoda3714 There’s always been people that have hated him as a person. No dumb “club” needed lol
Wait until they go into an art museum
Wait until they learn about Bauhaus
6:03 please never say that ever again i felt physical pain listening to those words
lmfaooooo!!!!!!!
suffering from psychic damage
my brain. turned off.
I kinda liked it
I was actively screaming both in my head and in real life "make it stopppp"
whenever I saw the painting at 21:50 I thought "wow that's such an awesome painting, I love it!!" but I knew exactly what the comments were going to be saying. Sometimes I think the internet was a mistake.
These dang Tiktok people don't understand what Abstract art is istg
I'm not personally a fan of abstract art, but that isn't even that bad.
same though honestly i was like "oh! thats impressive and well drawn" but my smile faded quickly as i saw people calling abstract art "not art" they genuinely dont think theres other types of art i swear
I know! Also how are the paints so VIBRANT!?!
my first thought was "ohhh I would love itt on my wall!!"
the way they used the first layer to add the texture is so cool!!!
they literally just make a tutorial on how "THEY" draw this thing not how "TO" draw. They dont even explain why this part of body can be like this or something.
Yeah, like the "Wrong" drawing could literally be how my body looks (I have hyper mobility). So I'm just like...so you're saying my body is wrong??
no legit. theyve spent yearssss finding techniques and methods to better their art and then showing how they do it is just plain wrong. its extremely unhelpful and comes across as just showing off instead of actually teaching something
@neodrawzfrsame here! 🥲
diversity? nah, my perception is reality /j. But seriously here, this is all to common in pockets of the art community
@@falcon_arkaigI used to tell people that I can literally get in poses I can get into on r/badwomensanatomy then find some photo of usually a gymnast or dancer in that position. It’s a very fun subreddit but it was full of posts from people who have clearly never seen anyone with hypermobility for a while, leading to the rules around what art is allowed. We’re talking action and dramatic poses, not general impossible cartoony art or weird ribbon bodies.
We went from people going “PEOPLE CAN DRAW WHATEVER AND HOWEVER THEY WANT HOW DARE YOU” to “How to draw in MY style, but not tell anyone that it’s about drawing in my style and not explain how to do it or why”
*"but not telling anyone it's in my style until someone mentions incorrections."
bro i had a stroke reading rhat
There was also a phase in art where people would gang up on other artists for "Art Style Theft" 😭😭😭
@@TheLawlessRogue LMAOO?? Ohmg thats so goofy
@@TheLawlessRoguethat’s exactly what I was gonna say! They make tutorials of how to draw in their style then get pissed if you draw in their style!
22:45 The last video was someone responding to a DM they got. The DM said that the only reason they draw well is because of their expensive supplies. The author of the video used the opportunity to say that it doesn't matter how expensive your supplies are and that sometimes limiting yourself to fewer or cheaper tools might aid to your creative process.
The comments are trying to agree, I guess.
^ This. Basically.
But there are nuances that aren't touched on. Certain tools are indeed simpler to work with, and you cannot achieve the same effects without those specific tools. HOWEVER, this says nothing about drawing skill. Those extra effects are icing on top, *not* the main part of the cake. If the basic cake sucks, the cake sucks. The icing only helps cover those flaws a bit and makes the cake a bit more palatable, but isn't going to make the cake good if it is a total train-wreck that is burnt and dry with too much salt in it. I'd rather have a good basic cake without icing than a dried-out, burnt trainwreck that has icing drizzled on top
An elaboration on the scenario with a specific example:
Prismacolor Pencils. Those are typically the "top of the line" colored pencils and get pushed super, *super* hard for anyone drawing with colored pencil. Crayola colored pencils are considered the "cheap, school-supply" version. You can still make *very* good works with Crayola colored pencils. (Funny enough, Crayola isn't even bad quality -- there's actually *worse* colored pencils out there that are almost straight up chalk). Now... you want to know the irony? Crayola was actually recommended as one of the colored pencils to use by one of the books I read for drawing with colored pencils that I skimmed through more than a decade back - with the author distinguishing between different pencils being "hard wax" and "soft wax." Crayola was labeled a 'hard wax' pencil, Prismacolor (the basic line that gets promoted) is labeled 'soft wax.' They are used for different purposes (or require slightly different methods for the greatest effectiveness) when drawing. Prismacolor has a specific dedicated line for "hard wax" but that's another thing entirely, and probably wasn't relevant when that book was made
Something on the opposite end of the spectrum with where the tool actually does have an impact is with digital art, in particular with programs. Some programs simply do not have the same functionality as others. But this is again going back to the cake analogy -- better tools make it easier to cover up and hide poor skill and things that are slightly lacking, but won't fix core issues for you automatically. Better ingredients and tools aren't going to hide the fact that you are mixing up salt for sugar and that you are burning everything in the pan. You can make a fancier cake with the fancier equipment and ingredients, but that's only possible if you actually have the skills to do so - otherwise you end up with an inedible abomination
That said, certain cases... you *do* actually want to have the best tools possible if you plan on getting deep into art from the get-go. But that isn't in all cases and scenarios. When it comes to basic drawing and skills for drawing...? You don't actually need those higher end materials/tools when starting out for the basics. In fact, higher end materials can end up being a detriment as they become crutches that keep you from figuring out your mistakes instead. However, you *do* want to make sure you have the proper tools for the job. You don't want to have only one large flat brush or one large round brush for everything if you need different types of brushes to paint what you want. Imagine needing to paint details with only large brushes available... or maybe not even having a proper palate knife when mixing thicker paints and instead using a brush and contaminating everything with it instead. Or worse with every single brush cleaning container being absolutely filthy so whatever brush you try to use with it ends up getting dirty and contaminated - when you are trying to paint bright and vibrant colors!! (thanks afterschool art classes for children that didn't bother supplying proper materials so everything was a painful mess)
@@gaerekxenos 100% agree. The difference between professional grade watercolors and student grade is literally night and day. I was once told by a professor that at a certain point in your art career you need to invest in good supplies because you don't want to be fighting with your material. You just want it to do what you want.
It goes to show that the phrase "those that can't do, teach" comes from people not understanding that teaching IS a skill in itself and being good at something doesn't guarantee that you will be as good as passing on that ability to others.
Or it comes from a bunch of showoffs and shit teachers thinking they know best but are in fact incompetent.
The bad apples will forever ruin it for everyone.
@@axelsmith4722 That's true. I've seen a few tutorials from people who have wikihow tier art skills.
People need to heard this. I don't know if every education system had this or not, but in my country, "pure degree" and its "teaching degree" is separated.
I mean, for example English degree. You will have English department and English TEACHING department. Since learning about English and what-not for your own is different when you want to share it to other.
@@valhatan3907 Yes. In the UK, where I'm from, you have degrees in a subject and then pass a year long post-grad in teaching that subject that has work experience as a requirement for graduation.
Picasso would've gotten roasted on tiktok bro
he was and still roasted without it too
good
Fr
Every time I see those "Wrong Right" tutorials I laugh. Like i remember seeing a "wrong" wrist pose in a tutorial and bc I have hyper mobility I could do that "wrong" wrist pose EASILY. These Right / Wrong tutorials are extremely oversimplified or downright wrong sometimes.
Reminds me of how when i start working on a drawing i want to actually finish up and have it look good (or practice) i try doing the pose i wanna draw if its an idle one or something i can feel for a long enough time while trying to mimic
Ugh I HATE those tutorials!
I don't have hypermobility but my fingers still manage to look "off".
There is even diversity in hands! There is no real wrong or right in the human body (shapewise).
Hypermobile person here! I often draw characters in a set way because I reference myself for my works a lot. Oftentimes I actually have to scale down the flexibility of a character because I'm so used to seeing myself. Makes making characters a little challenging, but I roll with drawing body diversity anyway. These artists acting like drawing diversity is too hard are lying to themselves and are just douches. If I as someone with an abnormal body can draw characters just fine, there's no excuse for these quote un quote "artists"
Half the time the wrong be lookin hella right
Tiktok try not to be problematic challenge: (IMPOSSIBLE)
My farts are better than Mohammed Agbadi's farts.
high diff
ong that's cap
@@MohammedAgbadiGOES WRONG‼️🤯
RUclips and tiktok are as bad each other are, nothing can change my mind
The moral: try to be more selective about where and who you learn from
This!!!
@6:04
I felt like i just got cursed at in a dead language
😅😅😅
@@MohammedAgbadi when does the tutorial for drawing The Yellow Sign drop? 😁
Please never brain rot I feels like a middle schooler insulting me
LMFAOOOOO WTF IS A BABY GRONK AND WHO IS LIVVY DUNNNNN???
@@MohammedAgbadibaby gronk is the guy who rizzes up livvy dunn with skibidi rizz while mogging her
@@MohammedAgbadii just felt my braincells die
@@Spookky_cerealMe too, my brain exploded and turning into mental blocky-block when i watched shorts videos NEVER. DISTRACTED. AGAIN.
AAAH TOTALLY UNRELATED BUT DANGANRONPA PFP :D
Glad I don’t have that app. Most of the art tutorials or instructions I’ve seen have been on YT and are more informative.
My farts are better than Mohammed Agbadi's farts.
i just use it for laughs now tbh. i found some white guy that goes around imitating rednecks and it's been cracking me up all day long
this is why i rather go on old RUclips basics video or break down pinterest references 😭🙏🏽
Tiktok is the definition of hit or miss
tiktok is like vegas, you go in with a lot and leave with next to nothing
I guess they never miss, huh
(Please continue this, I look stupid)
You got a boyfriend, I bet he doesn't kiss ya!
(muah)
@@serenity-studios8217( MWAH ) he gon find another girl and he won’t miss ya 🗣️
That thumbnail...
It. Sure is eye-catching.. 😰
👀👀💀💀
I didn't notice it until I checked again 💀
thanks
@@sesieleMy problem is I saw it and shrugged the first time 💀. I didn't even think twice about it 😭
I clicked bc of it
Your eyes aren't the only thing catching something
I think most of the hate for abstract art comes from how 75% of it is a money laundering scam, 20% is actual trash by trash artists trying to gaslight you into thinking it is good and the last 5% is good art hidden under the money laundering and trash
Money laundered absract art/crappy artist does NOT make up the majority of abstract peices existing in the world. That stuff still grinds mg gears but its not the fault of the style
I can agree with this. As always, money, the solution and source to all of our problems.
It's the difference between hotel wall art and art museum abstract art, one is meant to fill a space with some generic shapes and colors and the other is meant to evoke an emotion in an abstract way
@@peachesncharlotte Unfortunately, part of it is definitely the fault of the style -- being that it is too easy to mistake and mix up with other things when you throw all of the background behind the piece out the window. Early criticisms on abstract art were that "a child can do this" - and that has been a common criticism that has lasted for a ridiculously long time. So much that you will still get distasteful comments along those lines on art in general with "even a child can make art" (eg. See one of the Fiverr commercials that was on RUclips about... was it 8~9 years ago...?)
People simply don't understand Abstract art a lot of the time. And so a lot of people aren't going to place much value in it, unfortunately. I personally don't care too much about Abstract art, but I am aware of the background of where it stems from and parts of its original ideas and have some appreciation for its origins. On the other hand, half the people out there who see abstract art probably aren't even aware of what that background is, so they're not even going to have that as a base-line for appreciation
@@gaerekxenosthe art a child makes is beautiful but should not be commercialised
"i need a tutorial for the tutorial" you known it was not a good tutorial 😭😭
😭😭😭😭😭
@@MohammedAgbadi that jadokar guy does some amazing stuff you haven't seen yet, hes pretty sweet
Jakodar is on top man, just look at wawa and wuwa
24:15 this comment is saying that expensive art supplies are helpful to have. it can be easier to create better quality stuff because more expensive art supplies are professionally made (instead of cheaply made for the masses). but it is still entirely dependent on the skill. Someone can’t expect to use expensive art supplies and get amazing art without knowing how to use them first.
I was worried nobody was going to write this. Thank you
Definitely. For example, expensive colored pencils create much more solid of colors and blend WAY better. A professional can use Crayola pencils and make something good, but if they used Prismacolor, it’s going to be more vibrant and defined.
nah, i see all these complex diagrams and i'm like "bring back drawing from reference"
22:02 it’s crazy how people don’t know abstract art is a thing. My mother has some paintings she made and most are abstract.
She can draw really well though. I remember her telling me how she drew clothes on people, literally draws them accurately naked then puts the clothes overtop
I honestly love Jadokar and his "BUT WHYYY STOOOP HEEEEEEEERE?!" 😭
Same!
Same. If he posts longer form video tutorials I will be very happy
@@Teachmepleaseeee SAME
yeah
Wawa and Wuwa 👌🏾
6:06 the fact i understand everything you said gave me double psychic damage i will never recover from this
Random ass comment but I genuinely love your videos. It’s like listening to a podcast with your calm voice & it helps when I’m trying to work on something (including art ironically enough). I appreciate the effort you put into your videos and how you explain the topics.
Me too, his voice is like pure butter
Thankyou sm!!!🔥🔥❤️❤️
Late stage Tumblr was the prelude to tick tock tutorials (and everything else toxic with tick tock). Some of them set me back quite a bit- I was a pretty vulnerable teenager. They just loved to shame people for not doing certain things or for certain stylistic choices. Now it seems the exact same cess thriving on tick tock. So glad I don't use it
The rise of fandom culture went hand-in-hand with the rise of toxicity and cancel culture. I miss early tumblr when everything was stupid and everyone was okay with it.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesI think RUclips cringe comps, deviantranters, and story time critics who all peddled the idea that insulting and belittling artists over ugly art is okay so long as you label it “opinion” and “critique” is 1000% more responsible for TikTok’s current attitude than shitty tumblr fandoms
Bro I could be under a completely unrelated to art reel on Instagram and someone will respond to my comment being like "ur art sucks lol". LIKE WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?? Anyways, Instagram has the same problem.
@@justsomeartist8895 were you on Tumblr in 2016? Tick tok mirrors 2016 Tumblr to a T, but add a trumpet and fast-forward button.
@@ghostratsarah were you on RUclips literally any time before 2016? Literally everything wrong with TikTok is just an exacerbated version of what RUclips did first. Tumblr is/was toxic as all get out in its own right, but harassment and insults under the guise of “criticism” is 100% something that originated from ye olde RUclips cringe comps and deviantart ranters.
Quality also means archival a lot of the time. I love bic pens but they fade and wouldn’t want to do a piece with it to sell. But I love sketching (especially when hiking, lightweight) with them and wish they would come out with brown ink bic pens!!
Professional grade art supplies don't make art creation easier but they usually guarantee longevity of the piece if it's traditional (lightfastness) , or are made with more expensive ingredients so you get brighter colors (certain minerals + less binders for certain paints). Here's some really fun information: You can make gallery quality art with things are cheap as crayons or crayola dye based markers, or ye old dollarstore highlighters and pens. You want to make it last forever? Draw in your sketchbook where closing the book will make your piece last longer. Scan it and print it. You can make great art with these cheapo things and make merch with it. I just wouldn't necessarily want to sell the original because it will fade quickly.
they do. you're right too but good supplies *do* make it easier. example:
cheap colored pencils aren't soft so you need to apply much more force for the color payoff that you want, you're often would ruin your paper sooner. they also don't blend and can't be layered. - so yes you can use them of course but you will need to put in much more effort when could've got same results faster and easier
These is one of the reasons why don't see my self going on TikTok any time soon it meaningless and useless to me
22:02 This section in particular made my blood boil, it was incredibly obvious that a lot of intentional thought and honed skill went into this piece as evidenced by them LITERALLY SHOWING THEM PAINTING but 15yos who have only ever seen weirdly shiny skinned faux-anime people on Pinterest just don’t get it. Idk, maybe it’s not my place to get this angry, it’s just upsetting seeing people put a lot of work into something and only get thrashed and shit on for it.
EDIT: 24:08 ????????????????
LITERALLY!!!
if it's not THEIR OWN PERSONAL tastes, they act like it shouldn't exist which is just????? ew?????
*or viewpoints, or maybe a different approach to art, because YES ART IS A FORM OF SELF EXPRESSION, they act so self centered... ugh.
It was a fun speedpaint. Showing how simple lines and colors can add to something interesting and complex. The art supplies comment was just really badly worded but ended up agreeing with the OP anyway.
Media literacy is dying lol
Talking about heads (Talking Heads?) done wrong and admitting you've done the same really resonated for me.
Yesterday I did some sketches of dynamic poses, fencing-like sword duels, and reviewing them this morning I couldn't help but notice the look of their heads. Or lack thereof. Some had rudimentary balloons, others had some details but resembled omelettes more than faces.
Poses looked okay for the most part, but my laziness ended up detracting from the whole image
Same as it ever was.
@@RusPitman lol!
How did I get here?
Haven’t seen anyone comment about this so I’d like to say thank you so so much for captioning your videos it seriously makes life so much easier
Tbh the Kollern ones especially are so annoying. Like “DRaw A RAMeN BowL” NO. Just say something like “draw a flattened half circle” it especially stupid if they don’t explain WHAT the shape is for. LIKE WHAT
Kooleen Not Kollern lol.
My German autocorrect fucking up things today count: 4
Fr, her art turtorial didn’t explain anything about the eye. Also it only applies to that one pose, eyes are a sphere and are drawn and shaded as such, yet she didn’t explain that at all.
@@RDrawzDragonzThat’s especially goofy cause artists are supposed to imagine drawings as 3D, but she’s doubling down on encouraging viewers (by saying stuff like ‘ramen bowl’ for an oval) to imagine 2d shapes in place of that. o_o idk i’m just so done w/ how popular she is
@@pancakestrouble2429 bro Fr, She’s still a beginner artist but she’s acting like she’s skilled enough to make tutorials, there’s nothing wrong with being a beginner but her making these tutorials hurts other beginners progress!
@@RDrawzDragonz Yeah! And she even admits she’s making art content for popularity (“clout”) rather than to share her nonexistent skills. So she’s kinda trying to misinform the largest amount of viewers possible
20:18 the drawing on the right is exactly how I, a real living person, stretch. So ig according to that picture I stretch incorrectly lol
the annoying part there are short form creators who make good Tutorials but they are overshadowed by everything else
i usually dont really like artists who try so hard to be funny with "gen z humor" stuff in their art tutorials tbh (like kooleen for example) i find it kind of corny. but im ashamed to say that the 1st time i laughed at an art tutorial was at 18:40 like in what situation that would be useful lmaooooo
Poo fetish 😭😭
I applaud you for diving into the tiktok cesspool so I don't have to. You're doing gods work fr
I got brainrot now
I did nearly 10 years in art school and i have 0 idea what these tiktok tutorials are doing. When i make a tutorial (usually how i colour hair or how to sketch a hand etc) i try make it super basic
as an artist who both grew up watching art tutorials and also went to art school, it hurts me how some beginners always believes that the reason why a person draws so well is because of their art supplies. my professor once told me, " A good artist never blames their art supplies."
I SCREAMED WHEN I SAW THE NOTIF BRU I LOV YOUR CONTENT
My farts are better than Mohammed Agbadi's farts.
OMG thankyou sm!!
To play devil’s advocate for ‘draw this not that’ tutorials somewhat, the most useful ones are the ones that point out common anatomy mistakes that may *look* okay on their own, until you compare them to the ‘correct’ drawing and realize ‘oh wait that does look off.’ The problem is that it is way too easy for someone to present a deliberate art style choice they don’t like as a ‘common anatomy mistake’ and it’s damn near impossible to tell the difference because it turns into a non-falsifiable statement.
I think anime side mouth is a great example, it’s true that it’s not how IRL anatomy works, but it’s a deliberate art style choice that makes communicating emotion in profile view vastly easier and more natural looking depending on the art in question. *FullMetal Alchemist* has side mouth art, and it has some of the best expression work of any visual media period and straight up would not look as good if it were drawing “correctly.” But even to this day you’ll still find people who insist it’s an objectively incorrect way to draw side profiles, which is where it goes from ‘helpful advice’ to ‘trying to dictate how people should or shouldn’t draw.’
It's hard to differentiate his sarcasm to him actually stating his opinion most times because of how tired he sounds, get some sleep man😭🙏
9:41 damn you just dropping that caked up men on me without giving me a second to prepare first good lord 😳
While I definitely shouldn't have had unrestricted internet access at a young age, I am glad that I got to experience art tutorials from creators like Jazza and LavenderTowne and got into art early instead of getting into art now and watching lack luster art tutorials that are super mean.
We spend our time making art trendy instead of uplifting eachother in our community
Around 18:00, the part where you were talking about overwhelming editing, I could completely understand what kooleen was saying but that other guy I comprehended nothing. I’m a beginner artist, so I could be considered a sample of all the beginners out there that had no idea what he was saying.
Babe wake up, Mohammed posted!
My farts are better than Mohammed Agbadi's farts.
W ana!!!
i'm actually familiar with the first guy's other content, and it makes this one look like satire about how art tutorials don't fit on tiktok, that they either end up with barely any detail or overstuffed with too much detail. it's also missing his trademark "why stop heeeeeeeeeere"
his other tutorials are actually fairly decent, at least i've never had trouble following them, but i think those have more to do with what he covers, stuff that's just more suited to short instructions and don't involve maths.
6:02 ... i feel like the perfect addition to this moment would be unnecessary vine booms and 28 random ahh trending sounds in the background all at the same time 😆🥰
I once saw a trend in videos telling people to stop doing line art and that's when i knew it was time to go to put my phone down and evaluate my life choices...
it is fun to draw using the donts of the do/dont art memes tbh its how i found out i really like using as much vibrant neon as possible
Lmfaooo vibrant neon is sending me 😂😂
The "don't make foot as little hills" part is an example of art style, I guess. I hate drawing feet, I only draw characters with All Stars or boots, I dont have a reason to draw their toes, so I just do it, it's consistently a part of my style now lol. But I *do* know how to draw it, in case I ever need.
The art community is just hell in fact it’s worse than hell
1:45 I’m subbed to this guy and basically- and really he does yt shorts and long form content but he mainly does the tuts for entertainment purposes- I mean like he mainly does entertainment stuff
Its like those 'hOW 2 DRAW MANGA' Books where they'd tell you how to recreate an image instead of learning art
I use a random mechanical pencil I found on the floor of a subway and printer paper to draw, I color my art with a $10 crayola marker pack my grandma bought me when I was 6. You don't need shit to make good art, you need creativity. You don't even have to know what you're doing, as long as you have fun, and put effort into making something, its art.
24:20 trying to say getting newer tools creates efficiency but without your skill to use them they are practically useless. Agreeing to the og vid that was basically saying having cheap tools creates limitations, but the light of it is that it promotes creativity to work with what you have. And even if you have the crazy expensive tools its not gonna magically make your art better.
i hate that people think you have to know how to draw realistic before you're allowed to have fun and do your own art style
I mostly draw in an "anime" style but I still learned realistic anatomy and shading. I draw in my style 99%percent of the time but sometimes a little reminder on this can really help a lot !
Of course it shouldn't be an obligation
It actually can help to understand the shapes and then to style it more. I agree it can be boring but it also helped me a lot
Same
You don't have to of course, but you can't deny it's useful if you want to improve your drawings in a certain way (in terms of correct proportions in posings and knowing where everything goes, etc.). You can't learn how to swim if you don't know which parts you should move and how to move them. Just like you can't draw dynamic posing or perspective drawings without understanding and learning anatomy.
@@JustEvelynAndArt yeah, knowing basic anatomy can be good but i'm talking about people who think you need to be able to draw in a super realistic style before you're allowed to have fun with your art.
bcs of tiktoks and reels, i just cant sit and draw what i love and what i want.. i always need to consider what should i draw to attract attention and interest in 5 seconds and whats popular with stupid trends. and still, i need to know how to MARKETING and be a INFLUENCER while sharing my art. Being artist not enough, you must know how to entertain people. Be comedian, be story teller, be teacher and etc, I hate the every aspect of social media
I just wanted to say that your segue to the sponsor blurb (3:45) was seamless and on-topic. Well done!
I usually use TikTok to watch vids….but I am kinda concerned of making my own content….since now this would be a era of perfectionism
I've changed my art style at least 100 times, big and small changes, and I think every artist SHOULD change their styles and work with things outside of their comfort zone. Art shouldn't be stagnant, plus it's always good practice and you might find a new piece of style you enjoy!
That first creator you showed I actually really like him. He doesn't usually make tutorials, it's more just tips presented in an entertaining fashion
Yes. I like the anatomy explanations especially
This stuff is partly why I'm so happy to be getting a space in a server I'm part of to help provide a place to learn and ask questions without this garbage crawling after them. Half of the "tutorials" rely on the viewer already knowing something of the basics, which is the issue to begin with when the viewer doesn't have those
as an engineer, construction lines are essential in schematics, but if they are not explained properly they are completely meaningless.
a good example where the construction lines are not properly explained in drawing tutorial is the rule of thirds.
it IS regurgitated and repeated ad infinitum, but rarely if ever is it actually explained properly.
from tolerances, precise ratios for features within each third, the overshoot of each third, impact of perspective and more.
most of those are left in the "just practice" category which means that every person learning is following the basic rules but than use a lot of trial and error on an already solved problem to reach the same conclusion.
The fact that an artist is just using the tools and supplies they want to use and someone projects their emotions onto them simply because they dont have those things and cant afford those things. Thats so sad
Just found this channel and now probs found my new fav artist commentary
Thankyou💖💖
The guy you showed for the short just before 2:42 actually helped me understand some things better in art that I had trouble doing so... this one is not great though... But those on perspective, I totally got them. But I get your point and agree with most of it
Me personally, my art style is kind of cartoony, could fall into the category of someone who’s spent about half their used lifespan learning to draw anime and only managed to make it look remotely like anime 2 years ago. These tips don’t work for me sometimes, but am I going to dismiss it as useless garbage or invalidate it? NOPE. These people have miles more experience than I do in the art field, and I know that I can’t do better yet. These people need to learn that sentiment too.
thanks for this rant lmfao! , was waiting for this.
Hahaha Glad you enjoyed
I'd like to see you do a video discussing the problematic nature of entitled artists, particularly PacificNoir on deviantart. PN is a (Russian I think) realism artist who feels under threat whenever he/she sees any art done in a similar fashion, laying bold claims to drawing horse's eyelashes and mane-styles in certain ways and believing anyone who draws realistic horses are thieves. PN has harassed and somewhat threatened people and has a massive following, while also drawing some rather questionable content and being called out for directly tracing photos of horses down to the shadow while simultaneously having a meltdown over people "referencing" his/her art (aka anyone drawing in a similar style.)
I've seen and heard plenty of claims like PN's over the 15 years I've been in the art community, but never all of these claims from one single person lol it's utterly bonkers! And PN gets away with it, mostly. PN's followers just lovebomb the heck outta any discourse and sometimes white knight/witchhunt
tiktok art community needs to chill😭 love ur vids man
Thankyouuu💖💖💖
honestly i both appreciate and dislike the "know the rules [of art] before you break them" sentiment. on one hand, it is good to learn the fundamentals and there are a lot of good skills and concepts to learn, and its especially good for when youre trying to do a realistic / semi realistic style. but on the other hand, i see it used in an almost condescending context most of the time, and often its just used to put down other artists for not being "good" enough because they dont draw in a realistic style or arent "educated" enough in traditional styles.
remember: theres no one way to make art. you dont need to get a billion different degrees from a bunch of fancy art schools just to be able to draw good. everyones styles and artistic journeys are different, and its okay if you dont fully understand the fundamentals of art as long as youre having fun.
" know the rules before you break them "
I am nowhere near an experienced artist but I definitely agree with the last tutorial shown:
You don't need top tier expensive materials in order to make lovely art, sometimes just a pencil and an eraser in a normal sketchbook works just fine, though I am not doubting that professional or better quality materials can indeed help an artist and their process, but mainly if they know how to use them properly in general, of course there is not only one way to do that but there are bases in order to do freely what you want with the medium you chose.
To break the rules you have to know them first! But that's just my take, people can disagree with this statement and that's totally fine.
My art teacher a long time ago once told a story about a toilet seat, it was put in a museum because an artist wanted to provoke a question , the teacher asked us if it was art or not, I think now I understand it, someone had to have created it, which means someone somewhere, designed it, so it could be termed as art, because you use your brain in the same way for art, it was a pretty weird story, and not every piece has to invoke something in someone, sometimes it can just be, and people like it anyway.
(Or was it the toilet itself? I can't remember)
Ayy your vids are legendary
But since your talking about tutorials, i dislike when drawing something simple is shown as a difficult and tedious task in some tutorials. Like bruv why do others have to complete 24 steps to draw a portion of hair-
Really, they're always so show off-y or pompous. The Don't being a stylized or hyper simple doodle that usually still looks fine, and the Do being a speedpaint of their own style or realism that takes way more steps than it really needs. Or in the worst cases, they take 80 steps to draw the more boring bland person staring right into the camera in a boring pose.
They complete it in 24 steps because i guess they just want it to look perfect and because they’re accurate with details,while this does vary from one style to another i can kinda see where ur coming from,sometimes too much isn’t necessary and that less really is more (but that’s just my personal opinion)
The guy at 24:20 was saying that expensive art supplies are often easier to work with (smoother, more pigmented, etc.) but if doesnt mean much if you dont have the skill.
If i spend a bunch of money on fancy oil pastels, it could make me faster at making the same piece, but it doesnt mean much if I dont learn proportions.
Idk why, but making hands is low key less steps than that guy in the first tiktok, idk. Sometimes I feel like more advanced artist tend to get a little too carried. But yeah, Idk
11:10 that's actually so smart, surely nobody will still criticize it because of their lack of comprehensio-
why does this video have no views but two comments 😭
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Yup my comment calling you out on supporting a terrible company was deleted. Wow your a great person. SO great!!!
I really agree with the tiktok about how your art supplies don't equate to the quality of your art. Im a digital artist so its a little different but the same idea still stands. You can buy an expensive art program and it will probably make making art easier and allow you access to tools that help elevate your work. But you can also see absolutely GORGEOUS art created on mspaint that an inexperienced artist using the most expensive art program and tablet could not recreate. It has to do with your skill. It does suck when you can't afford the materials you want, but that shouldn't stop you from creating and trying to improve! I also agree that using more limited supplies can even boost creativity! Like sometimes I like to pull up mspaint and sketch with it, I find it can loosen up my lines and keeps me from overthinking. Its fun to work with and try to create the best thing you can, or just a little doodle, using such a limited program. In the end your artwork is going to reflect your skill, not the supplies you have.
I have tutorials on my channel inspired by exactly what you are talking about. The "fixing your art" culture is bleh. We need to teach people what they need to consider before expressing themselves through art so they can have a relaxing fulfilling time. Alot of these tutorials are from people who know how to draw, but will never reach the artistic expression like Frank Miller for example, someone who gets clowned and praised for his work but will die a legend. Great video man!
love the video, would have been really funny if you brought someone who doesn't know how to draw and show them follow along those tik tok tutorials haha
Holdup!!!! That's actually a reallly good idea!🔥🔥🔥thanks man
I learned a few small things from tiktoks and shorts, but i learned the most from taking classes and experimenting with art.
9:35 as a gen alpha kid would say “GYAT”
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I hate hate hate it when tutorials go ‘draw this little box here and add a circle’ or something. As an artist, I speak with confidence when I say that isn’t getting you anywhere, especially with anatomy. Because bodies are so different and can vary so much, you have to understand what you’re actually drawing in order to get better. I might be being over dramatic about this but 🤷♀
bro is spitting facts like its nothing 🔥
6:03 also please never use those context of words in the same sentence ever again
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I can see some of the thought process that goes into the "do this not that" images. The first 3 images shown especially. The "dont" images show perfectly valid ways of drawing the thing, but done in a way that beginner artists might do when the actual way they intended to draw it is closer to the "do" images. For example, the one that shows 2 different ways of drawing a stretch is something ive struggled with in the past - drawing the arms bent at a somewhat awkward angle that doesnt convey the stretch as well as allowing the arms to be straight and overlap the head like in the other image.
The main problem is that the images, whether intentional or not, send the message that doing it the first way is inherently wrong in all situations, when theyre more useful as showing different ways you might try changing poses up if your first attempt doesnt look quite how you were intending.
20:23 is just 2 different levels of stretch??? Maybe its cause im hypermobile but my arms straighten all the way when i actually stretch. Wilkd concept but your arms actually *can* touch the side of your head. Yeah it is important to consider how the body bends around other body parts, but they also interact and squish so... both are right. The blue body just isnt stretching as much as the pink one, but theyre both anatomically sound.
my hope is that short form content will, in the right conditions, improve much much faster than long form content, as its easy to make and easy to tweak. Those conditions dont actually exist right now though, your content isnt judged by the algorithm on how good it is at what its meant to do, its judged on how entertaining it is, and how agreeable it is to whichever community its recommended to. Someday we'll get a good algorithm for short form content and there will be a generation of super geniuses or something.
I do not trust short form content, or normal art tutorials.
I watch speepaints and pray that I guessed their process right while also wondering wtf is a multiply layer
(Still don't tbh)
SAME OMG I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE MULTIPLY LAYER, SOFT LIGHT, HARD LIGHT, COMBINE, DIVIDE I DONT KNOW THESE THINGS
blending modes they basically turn into a filter so u can rly fancy up yr work
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Having the anatomy knowledge is useful, even if your style uses unrealistic proportions, you want to make them look unrealistic in a BELIEVEABLE WAY not just blindly doing whatever, it has to look purposeful or it'll just look like crap
The last Tik Tok speaks to me especially because I know that no matter which tools you use, you can still create something with it! Also not to call out someone but a very famous artist who used to work at Disney and streams on here and Twitch stated that YOU NEED expensive stuff to create good art which was kinda shocking to me to hear.
Name and shame
One way that short-form tutorials can be great great are in software tutorials (Photoshop, Krita, Blender, etc). Explaining ways to use brush packs, blending mode layers, lesser-known shortcuts, etc. Little tips that can help you USE a program to create art.
6:01 the fact that I understood that makes me feel like I’m going insane 😭😭😭😭
Like if you haven’t been born
06:03 i literally thought that i've lost the ability to comprehend the english language there, before i realized what you were doing
Lmfaoooooo 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭
Not the doo doo draws in the thumbnail 😭😭😭
wait till you see the video 🧩