Time to make a part 2. You forgot to show us the rudder-twist, forgot to mention that the Winwing joystick vibrates and didn't show us if MSFS2020 detects the joystick.
I fly the A320 irl and the stick is very dampened. Tough to say which one has the more realistic travel, since I've never taken a tape measure to work and measured the travel. I would have to get the WW in hand to make a good comparison between it and the irl A320 stick. Right now, I am using a Virpil WarBird gimbal with an A320 grip (I don't remember who makes the grip, but it's very realistic) and the tension is good with the springs I have installed. I also have the TM Airbus stick, and I found it to be just ok, but for someone who is accustomed to the real thing, completely unacceptable.
Great in depth review XP72. the Winwing flight stick mechanics is some what similar to the VKB inside the workings. i do feel the VKB looks more sturdy, robust & heavier design and it comes with different tension springs, spare parts and tools. The VKB you just change out the stick as its separates from the base, i do think this Winwing stick is removable, its got the similar 3 screws underneath.
Thanks for sharing your unboxing. Missile launch or Push to talk, the winwing wins on ergonomic. Under the cap You have a trim control for helicopter, i have it on search and rescue to slide left or right.
I have the winwing FCU. Overall a great product but winwing really needs to make their products plug n play without the need to download third party software. Huge difference IMO
Just received Winwing Ursa Minor, and it feels miles ahead of TCA, the damping is adjustable. I adjust the damping to max, and oh boy it’s feel so fucking good❤
@@vagp8055 dimensions in what? Its size is perfect and not that heavy IMO.
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That is normal to feel the Thrustmaster bouncing more (spring effect) since the travel is longer. For the test you did, you should move less the TCA axes. Anyway, good comparison.
Yeah no twist action, this is important for me, because the thrustmaster side stick has issues with this over time, both of mine had the same issue, which I managed to fix very easy.
Do we know the price? i use the basic Thrustmaster yoke and quad. Ive been looking for an upgrade for a few years. I bought the Thrustmaster captains pack last year and the side stick did not work with Xplane 11.
Have you ever considered making a mini home cockpit like the Airbus cockpit winwing had on display at the expo? It seems like it would be super fun and with winwing being super cheap, it would actually be affordable lol
the real airbus sidestick has lots of travel and is very damp. If thrust master makes theirs as dampened as the winwing or even more, I would pick the thrust master over winwing. I mean right now i would still pick thrustmaster over winwing because I like having the travel.
This is only the surface of a comparison. How do the sticks "behave" in the simulator? How does it "feel" while using it in an Airbus but also for example in a helicopter? Please a part 2 ;-) ;-)
@@XP72official The stick twist for example has stick drift, so the inputs aren't right anymore or it gives inputs on its own. Secondly, the build quality feels genuinely cheap and lightweight.
Doesn't seem like it's night and day difference or a reason enough to toss my thrustmaster to the side, especially when I may only hand fly the Airbus for all of 10 minutes, if that. Thanks for the video anyhow.
Have the Thrustmaster Airbus system but because of the throttle unit cheapness there is no resistance in the throttle and is deemed useless worst thrustmaster product I bought. Joystick and Spoiler / flaps is fine but the throttle sticks are a joke
Thrustmasters product is licensed by airbus. No idea why it’s taken us this long to get low price haptics in a side stick when we’ve had it in game controllers for years
Updated apps to support vibration motors in MSFS. Does it work well with MSFS? If it does, does it vibrate when running down the runway during takeoff and landing? Or is it just a brief vibration on landing touchdown and that's it?
Time to make a part 2. You forgot to show us the rudder-twist, forgot to mention that the Winwing joystick vibrates and didn't show us if MSFS2020 detects the joystick.
I fly the A320 irl and the stick is very dampened. Tough to say which one has the more realistic travel, since I've never taken a tape measure to work and measured the travel. I would have to get the WW in hand to make a good comparison between it and the irl A320 stick. Right now, I am using a Virpil WarBird gimbal with an A320 grip (I don't remember who makes the grip, but it's very realistic) and the tension is good with the springs I have installed. I also have the TM Airbus stick, and I found it to be just ok, but for someone who is accustomed to the real thing, completely unacceptable.
Great to know. Thanks
Great in depth review XP72. the Winwing flight stick mechanics is some what similar to the VKB inside the workings. i do feel the VKB looks more sturdy, robust & heavier design and it comes with different tension springs, spare parts and tools. The VKB you just change out the stick as its separates from the base, i do think this Winwing stick is removable, its got the similar 3 screws underneath.
😮😮 that means preorders should be coming soon!! Love it xp ty for the review
Real Airbus sidestick is very dampened back to netural. It doesn't "snap" like the Thrustmaster.
Thanks for sharing your unboxing.
Missile launch or Push to talk, the winwing wins on ergonomic. Under the cap You have a trim control for helicopter, i have it on search and rescue to slide left or right.
Great review XP! Looking forward to the Boeing mcp and mcdu
Yes sir
I have the winwing FCU. Overall a great product but winwing really needs to make their products plug n play without the need to download third party software. Huge difference IMO
Just received Winwing Ursa Minor, and it feels miles ahead of TCA, the damping is adjustable. I adjust the damping to max, and oh boy it’s feel so fucking good❤
How long does it take to receive? I just bought it and I'm already looking forward to it
What are its dimensions?
@@vrotate8324 I live in Taiwan, so I bought it from Taobao China, which is where Winwing from. It took about 7 days to get it on my hands.
@@vagp8055 dimensions in what? Its size is perfect and not that heavy IMO.
That is normal to feel the Thrustmaster bouncing more (spring effect) since the travel is longer. For the test you did, you should move less the TCA axes.
Anyway, good comparison.
I'd go for the TM for versatility. Can use it for helicopter and space sim, therefore better value even if it feels cheap
The real airbus side stick is super damp and heavier compared to the thrustmaster one
there is a guy that mad it (2800rmb) really good
Yeah no twist action, this is important for me, because the thrustmaster side stick has issues with this over time, both of mine had the same issue, which I managed to fix very easy.
Thanks for the review, now I don't know what one I'm going to get LOL
lol.
The removable springs are for helicopter flying.
Do we know the price? i use the basic Thrustmaster yoke and quad. Ive been looking for an upgrade for a few years. I bought the Thrustmaster captains pack last year and the side stick did not work with Xplane 11.
Keep doing what you're doing
In terms of resistance and feel, I say the TCA Sidestick has and edge over the Winwing,
Love it XP!
Great review
Have you ever considered making a mini home cockpit like the Airbus cockpit winwing had on display at the expo? It seems like it would be super fun and with winwing being super cheap, it would actually be affordable lol
I like that idea.
Any chance you could confirm that the Winwing stick could be mounted on a TCA Flying Clamp?
the real airbus sidestick has lots of travel and is very damp. If thrust master makes theirs as dampened as the winwing or even more, I would pick the thrust master over winwing. I mean right now i would still pick thrustmaster over winwing because I like having the travel.
What are its dimensions Winwing Airline Joystick?
This is only the surface of a comparison. How do the sticks "behave" in the simulator? How does it "feel" while using it in an Airbus but also for example in a helicopter? Please a part 2 ;-) ;-)
I’d think you’d have to calibrate it for each aircraft like I do with every stick I have. Dunno 🤷
What about the sensors? Does the Winwing come with Hall Effect sensors?
From another video yes they are.
@@Fus-1111 thanks for the info!
do you live in the usa because when i was on the website it does not deliver to the usa
In all the reviews they never peel off the pads they just mention it try but no complete.
Does it have the twist axis for tiller?
Yes it does, have a twist axis for tiller. I forgot to mention that.
I got the Thrustmaster sidestick already, not that satisfied with it. Do you think this would be worth the "upgrade".
A question first. What were you lot satisfied with on the Thrustmaster?
@@XP72official The stick twist for example has stick drift, so the inputs aren't right anymore or it gives inputs on its own. Secondly, the build quality feels genuinely cheap and lightweight.
Looks good but what about a throttle quadrant?
That would be good from them as well.
@@XP72official fingers crossed! 🙏🏼
Btw…the removable panel on the bottom of the joystick reveals the adjustable dry clutch damper 🙂
@Cookie2k thanks. That damper feels good.
Doesn't seem like it's night and day difference or a reason enough to toss my thrustmaster to the side, especially when I may only hand fly the Airbus for all of 10 minutes, if that. Thanks for the video anyhow.
the real sidestick has less travel and more dampening
5:56 Ahahah... they blatantly completely copied the gimbal from the Gladiator NXT without any changes, lol
Have the Thrustmaster Airbus system but because of the throttle unit cheapness there is no resistance in the throttle and is deemed useless worst thrustmaster product I bought. Joystick and Spoiler / flaps is fine but the throttle sticks are a joke
I’m surprised that Thrustmaster hasn’t put a patent on their product
kinda hard when they are just replicas of the airbus side stick. nothing to really copyright
They probably have but Winwing cared about it as much as for the VKB Gladiator gimbal which they copied. lol
Which patent? An Airbus themed PC joystick? lmfao
Thrustmasters product is licensed by airbus. No idea why it’s taken us this long to get low price haptics in a side stick when we’ve had it in game controllers for years
Updated apps to support vibration motors in MSFS.
Does it work well with MSFS?
If it does, does it vibrate when running down the runway during takeoff and landing?
Or is it just a brief vibration on landing touchdown and that's it?
Will these work with xbox?
Nope
I don’t think so.
Too bad.