You may not be an academic teacher, but you are most certainly a great teacher. Don't sell yourself short. We all learn a great deal from you. Keep up the fantastic work. We all enjoy your informative videos. My dearly missed grandfather told me to learn all you can and share your knowledge every chance you get.
+1 I had no idea about all those differences. I knew enough to not try swapping out ammo between my magnum and long rifle rimfire firearms, but I was unaware of the number of differences taught in this video by an effective educator. Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊
I've been in technical training almost all my professional life, and that demonstration where you tried to chamber .22 Magnum in the .22 LR revolver was worth a thousand words. That's what natural teachers do.
So glad you covered that. For experienced shooters, such things don't even cross our minds as possibilities, but these are things non-shooters, and particularly new shooters need to know, and it really helps to know why. This knowledge will also translate into larger calibers with similar diameters, and eventually into more complicated issues such that one will find with .380, 9mm, .38/spl./.357 mag calibers, the ACP vs rimmed casings, standard and +P powder charges. Other things that we grow so accustomed to that we just assume everyone knows, but are issues the recent flood of new shooters may not, and could get in trouble not understanding the reasons why. Thanks for what you do, my friend. Stay safe.
Thanks for the outstanding comment. You are so right! I am guilty myself of assuming that folks know certain things and then I post a video and get a ton of questions about the things.... It reminds me that I need to slow down and think about what I say in a video and how I say it.
@@buffalosoutdoors About the only exception I can think of is that you can safely shoot .38 S&W (short & weak) from a .38 SPL or .357 MAG revolver, but why would you pay more to shoot a cartridge with the effective range of across the room?
Could not agree with you more. Just had a shooter who did not understand the diffruenct in 45 colt rounds and purchased the wrong ammo for his firearm. There has never been a Long Colt round. Fello shooters let us help educate new shooters by using proper terminology.
@@BillB23 Think of it more as versatility. You may never use the older shorter .38s but you have the ability to use them. Just remeber one of the .38s has a healed bullet and will not run through modern chambers because the external diameter of that round is .375 if I recall correctly.
I'm an experienced shooter, started with .22lr rifle as a kid. Also a veteran. I experimented with it just to see what would happen for myself. Also tried .380 in my 9mm just see what would happen.
I accidentally made that mistake once with my Arminius with swappable cylinders, i took the .22 mag cylinder and a box of .22 lr ammo to the range. (Don't be in a rush,and check your stuff before you leave) The first clue i had was it didn't sound right, and the bullets were key holing at 10 yards and all over the target. I finished the 8 rounds and realized what i did when i went to eject and and just like yours Buffalo, the star jumped the cases, and i had to use a cleaning rod end to get the empty shells out. That's when i noticed the magnum markings on the cylinder and realized i didn't check before i left the house. So if y'all got a swappable, make sure you grab the right ammo for the cylinder if you dont cary both to the range/field.
I appreciate the question! And, I also appreciate the very humble and gentle informed response. Arrogant experts are usually fake experts. Love your channel.
I've been shooting for 20+ yrs now, am well versed in firearms, and all though I never had a 22wmr, I never knew this. Because of you I learned something new today...something I will certainly share with others. Thanks
Good job on the video. Don’t sell yourself short, you did a good job of describing the difference between the 22 Magnum and 22 LR firearms and used visuals to back up what you were saying. I was in law-enforcement for over 30 years and did quite a bit of instructing/teaching during that time. I am no expert in that field, but was able to follow you quite well. Obviously I enjoyed the video and look forward to more.
Very well explained and demonstrated . I am utterly baffled as to why anyone has clicked the thumbs down button for this informative and helpful video .
I've been shooting and reloading for over 50 years and I have to say that was a great video by a real teacher. I'm now a new subscriber! Thanks Buffalo!
I never had a 22 mag, that explains a lot. I always wonder why the extra cylinder for magnums. I didn’t know there was that much of a difference. Thanks.
You're a good teacher. At work today my friend in the military said he qualified on a new gun (to him), the M4. Said he was a bit nervous because the military instructor quickly talked but didn't show them what was being taught. Somehow he qualified. That's a bad instructor. You're a good instructor.
You did a great job explaining. The reason for the velocity loss (besides all the other losses) is the case swells from the charge until it contacts the oversize chambers. By that time the case has released the grip on the heeled .222"/.223" bullet and the expanding gasses are blowing by the bullet perimeter at the same time shoving it down the longer cylinder toward the forcing cone. The velocity loss is mostly blow-by from chamber being too big. Also as you demonstrated, the star missed extraction because it's designed to grab larger diameter rims.
I really wish we could go back 70 years and slap Winchester for not making the 22 WMR just a longer 22lr so we wouldn't have a problem interchanging them.
A very informative video for those who were not aware of this. Most of the conversion revolvers I have are set up for 22 Magnum, but my most accurate 22 is a Ruger Mark II chambered in 22 long rifle.
I was quite impressed with your safety equipment choices for this video demonstration. I believe you proved your point; I am afraid to say anything more at this time.
A great time to be putting information like this out for new shooters. Truth be told, I had forgotten *why* not to use .22LR in a .22 Mag. I just remember that they aren't 1-way interchangeable, so this is a great refresher for me. Btw, whether or not you're a natural teacher, you've definitely gotten good at it.
Not trying to nit pick here (because he did wait a bit and kept the revolver pointed down range), but you should never just move on the next round on a revolver cylinder when you have a miss fire. That un-fired round could be "hang fire", and you do not want that round going off not aligned with the barrel. Some revolvers seem to be designed with this in mind, having an opening for the bullet to escape in the instance of a hang fire during mis-alignment. But a lot do not. I have only ever experienced a hang fire one time with a 22lr, and it made me realize the potential danger of this happening in a revolver. Remember to ALWAYS wait a few seconds and point the fire arm in a safe direction before attempting to remove or move onto the next round. It's not a common occurrence, but it can happen. Just my two cents.
Really good video Mr Buffalo! I remember when my dad bought a Winchester 94 in 22 WMR and the instruction manual said it would take 11 WMR, 15 LR and 21 Short. My dad, being a causious individual, measured the casings and found that the instruction was full of S. With the prices of 22 WMR being what they were I had to try it though but I came to the same conclusion as you did here. Thanks!
I've been shooting along time (1974) and I never thought about shooting .22LR in a .22 mag....just knew you shouldn't. GREAT video...VERY informitave. Thank you.
When I was younger we raised meat rabbits and used a ruger single six and cb shorts to dispatch them for butchering. We had the 22mag cylinder in it and thought no big deal we’re just shooting rabbits, well with the cb shorts, they lost so much energy in the magnum cylinder that they would not kill the rabbits. That was the first and last time we did that.
Hell , i used to shoot 44 shells out of my 410 single shot shotgun for months till my pa cought me.Boy was he pissed !!! After he got tired of whipping my ass , he made my mom whip some more. Couldn't walk for a week.the sound of those 44 rounds tumbling thru the air , sounded like a howitzer.But i was like nine then and that was fifty years ago.Every once in a while , ill still do it. But I'll look over my should first , just to make sure my grand kids aren't there to tell on me
"Not a natural teacher" Well, I respectfully disagree wholeheartedly with that statement. I don't usually disagree with what you say but this time I really do!
This video was a great demonstration on the difference between loading 22LR in a 22 WMR pistol , one of my coworkers was loading this in his Ruger LCRX 3 inch 22 Magnum , he didn’t believe me until he watched this video.. 👍👍
Thank you, sir, for another one of those "shoulda done that" videos. I've been shooting for fifty years and couldn't have answered the question. Glad there's someone who does. I'm sort of reminded of a thing in the large gun store here we instruct at. Given the total absence of available handgun calibers, in the ".38" caliber aisle there's a few boxes of .38 Super ammunition, and large signs the store put up declaring Super will not work in .38 Special revolvers. Guess it needs to be said.
I remember back in the early 1960s when the .22 Magnum was still relatively new and unknown, a guy managed to get one pounded into the chamber of a single shot .22 LR rifle. When he fired it the barrel cracked from the breech to the muzzle. I have never seen another barrel damaged like it was.
Hi Buffalo, I learned something I’ll pass along over on the Savage forum. If you want to shoot .22 l.r. In your magnum, cut the back end off of a .22 magnum empty and it makes a perfect sleeve that a .22 lr fits right inside of. As far as velocity loss goes, I haven’t checked it out yet but they fire alright in my Savage 24 without shooting themselves up inside the barrel along with the l.r. bullet. The cases come right out and the sleeve stays put but a brush on a cleaning rod gets it out real easy. I’ll check it out more this coming summer.
Very interesting and informative. For many years I wondered myself if I could, or should, do this; now I've got my answer. Thanks Buffalo, you just earned yourself a subscription :)
Oh yeah. A great way of showing revolvers spitting is placing a piece of paper against the gun on its side. People would be surprised how much fire and lead come out on normal shooting. I imagine it would be very helpful for showing 22lr from 22 mag chambers. Im loving all of the firearms coming out now chambered in 22. Revolvers and autoloaders...I love it all!
Thanks for that testimony. It's scary to me that "newbies" wouldn't know these facts before deciding to experiment, without researching the possibilities!!! Keep up the entertaining & educational content. Happy Holidays & good health in the coming year. Barry
Explained very well. At one time in our lives we were all new shooters and didn't know things we take for granted now. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a great 2021.
This was one of my cousins favorite tricks. He often carried a bolt action Mossberg .22 mag on the trapline. When he needed an underpowered round to kill trapped fur animals, he would slap a 22LR in the chamber of his Mossberg and use that. The case would always split and the round would be grossly underpowered making a strange report.
I have often wondered about that. But have never tried it. The cylinder on my pistol shows 22LR and the other says 22WMR. Never tried to put a LR in a WMR cylinder. And I never will. A very informative video. Keep up the good work.
Just like Ted Danson said when describing relations with his then girlfriend, Whoopi Goldberg: "It's like throwing a hotdog down a hallway." Maybe I shouldn't repeat that. But he did say it. And it is a good comparison - for this situation and, apparently, the one in which Ol' Ted found himself.
Folks are so used to .38 Specials being fired out of a .357 Magnum, that they think the .22s are the same. Great visual demonstration that the .22s are a whole different thing (I knew it, but your holding the cases up side by side was an eye-opener!!!!).
Well I think that’s because people that shoot 357 magnum can also shoot 38 specials out of the same gun. I have been shooting for 50 years and until you just pointed it out I did not know that about 22 Magnum’s. Nice video, thanks!
When I finally got my Rough Rider back from Taurus, 3 months, I forgot to check the cylinder. It was the magnum cylinder and after I shot 6 lr rounds through the gun, every time I use either cylinder I get crap blown back in my face. Metal shavings I suspect. It sucks and the empties are now hard to remove, either cylinder.
There is a way that you could fire 22 long rifle through a 22 magnum chamber. I used to do it for quite a while with a high standard Derringer. I took two fired 22 mag casings and I filed off the back of the case, and left the flange on the case. I then took a small rat tail file and I very carefully opened up the inside of the case to a point where a 22 long rifle wood slide into the case. And then I took off the part of the flange that would interfere with the extractor on that particular firearm so that I only extracted the 22 long rifle case. It function quite fine and all I had to do to remove it was to push a 20 to brush up through the gun and it would push the fired 22 mag case out of it. It worked absolutely like a charm. Why can't you swapped it cylinders between those two guns, have you tried it. It could very well be and could very well be possible that the only difference between those two Chambers is the timing and the timing is more of a function of the ratchets on the cylinder than they are of the internal workings of the frame of the firearm. Try it you might be surprised.
An excellent and necessary video. I've wondered about this issue myself, but nobody has explained the issue as well as you have. Thank you for your guidance and education. 😎
Again I know you're tired of hearing it but, Awesome video. No one's ever too old or smart for some education. Thanks for putting out great information and great content, the world needs more Buffalo.
Good video. I wish someone had explained all this to me decades ago as a teenager when I was choosing between getting a rifle in either .22 LR and .22 magnum. I went with the magnum and definitely preferred that caliber due to its power, that is until I subsequently discovered just how much more expensive the ammo was. Then I tried to economize on occasion by shooting .22 LRs out of my .22 magnum rifle thinking they were compatible like .38 special and .357 magnum. The gun would still fire, but I always wondered why the casings often got stuck or split open. It was years later before I found out why, and even then I still didn't quite get it. This is easily the best explanation I've ever heard on the topic.
To fire .22LR in .22WMR chamber, you must paper patch the .22LR (both case body and bore portion of the bullet). Use Sellotape. This is to help ensure the cartridge is centered (for accuracy and hammer strike on rim), and to prevent case bulge/rupture.
I have often wondered why someone hasn't manufactured "22 extra long rifle" ammo. It was done with the 32 S&W, the 38 special, and the 44 special by making a slightly longer case. Maybe it has something to do with the rimfire manufacturing process. Great video.
You may not be an academic teacher, but you are most certainly a great teacher. Don't sell yourself short. We all learn a great deal from you. Keep up the fantastic work. We all enjoy your informative videos. My dearly missed grandfather told me to learn all you can and share your knowledge every chance you get.
Do you need a rag to clean up your chin dude? Jeez....
I had no idea those two rounds were different diameters. Like the saying goes, "you learn something new every day". Thanks Buffalo
Me too. I only assumed one was longer.
That's so you can't accidently shove a WMR into a LR firearm...
+1
I had no idea about all those differences. I knew enough to not try swapping out ammo between my magnum and long rifle rimfire firearms, but I was unaware of the number of differences taught in this video by an effective educator.
Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊
For a guy that says he is not a teacher, you were very effective in explaining this.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Great and very accurate comment Scott!
Ditto Good Teacher TY alot !! G/kids Njoy lessons also
And the safety precautions were prudent
Agreed
I've been shooting for 50 years. This is the first time anyone ever explained this to me. Thank you very much!
I've been in technical training almost all my professional life, and that demonstration where you tried to chamber .22 Magnum in the .22 LR revolver was worth a thousand words. That's what natural teachers do.
"I'm not a natural teacher." I think you are. Thank you!
Buffalo you would make a great teacher. You are calm and reassuring.
Buffalo is always looking out for his peeps. You cannot put a price on the value of safety information. Thanks Buffalo, as always.
So glad you covered that. For experienced shooters, such things don't even cross our minds as possibilities, but these are things non-shooters, and particularly new shooters need to know, and it really helps to know why. This knowledge will also translate into larger calibers with similar diameters, and eventually into more complicated issues such that one will find with .380, 9mm, .38/spl./.357 mag calibers, the ACP vs rimmed casings, standard and +P powder charges. Other things that we grow so accustomed to that we just assume everyone knows, but are issues the recent flood of new shooters may not, and could get in trouble not understanding the reasons why. Thanks for what you do, my friend. Stay safe.
Thanks for the outstanding comment. You are so right! I am guilty myself of assuming that folks know certain things and then I post a video and get a ton of questions about the things.... It reminds me that I need to slow down and think about what I say in a video and how I say it.
@@buffalosoutdoors About the only exception I can think of is that you can safely shoot .38 S&W (short & weak) from a .38 SPL or .357 MAG revolver, but why would you pay more to shoot a cartridge with the effective range of across the room?
Could not agree with you more. Just had a shooter who did not understand the diffruenct in 45 colt rounds and purchased the wrong ammo for his firearm. There has never been a Long Colt round. Fello shooters let us help educate new shooters by using proper terminology.
@@BillB23 Think of it more as versatility. You may never use the older shorter .38s but you have the ability to use them. Just remeber one of the .38s has a healed bullet and will not run through modern chambers because the external diameter of that round is .375 if I recall correctly.
I'm an experienced shooter, started with .22lr rifle as a kid. Also a veteran. I experimented with it just to see what would happen for myself. Also tried .380 in my 9mm just see what would happen.
I accidentally made that mistake once with my Arminius with swappable cylinders, i took the .22 mag cylinder and a box of .22 lr ammo to the range. (Don't be in a rush,and check your stuff before you leave) The first clue i had was it didn't sound right, and the bullets were key holing at 10 yards and all over the target. I finished the 8 rounds and realized what i did when i went to eject and and just like yours Buffalo, the star jumped the cases, and i had to use a cleaning rod end to get the empty shells out. That's when i noticed the magnum markings on the cylinder and realized i didn't check before i left the house. So if y'all got a swappable, make sure you grab the right ammo for the cylinder if you dont cary both to the range/field.
I appreciate the question! And, I also appreciate the very humble and gentle informed response. Arrogant experts are usually fake experts. Love your channel.
Thank you!
This is the best explanation I’ve seen for why it’s not a good idea.
I've been shooting for 20+ yrs now, am well versed in firearms, and all though I never had a 22wmr, I never knew this.
Because of you I learned something new today...something I will certainly share with others.
Thanks
Your series on the .22 WMR revolver is first rate. Thanks for clearing up a lot of misconceptions about this under appreciated cartridge.
Good job on the video. Don’t sell yourself short, you did a good job of describing the difference between the 22 Magnum and 22 LR firearms and used visuals to back up what you were saying. I was in law-enforcement for over 30 years and did quite a bit of instructing/teaching during that time. I am no expert in that field, but was able to follow you quite well. Obviously I enjoyed the video and look forward to more.
I'm not a natural learner. But that's a great tuteral for kids and beginners.
This should be required for both.
Very well explained and demonstrated . I am utterly baffled as to why anyone has clicked the thumbs down button for this informative and helpful video .
Idiocracy ...
I've been shooting and reloading for over 50 years and I have to say that was a great video by a real teacher. I'm now a new subscriber! Thanks Buffalo!
I never had a 22 mag, that explains a lot. I always wonder why the extra cylinder for magnums. I didn’t know there was that much of a difference. Thanks.
You're a good teacher. At work today my friend in the military said he qualified on a new gun (to him), the M4. Said he was a bit nervous because the military instructor quickly talked but didn't show them what was being taught. Somehow he qualified. That's a bad instructor. You're a good instructor.
Now that they swelled, you can reload 22 magnum shorts! LOL - just kidding. Thanks for the video! BTW, you are a very good communicator.
Maybe you're not a natural teacher, but you've sure taught me a helluva lot. Much appreciated. Merry Christmas!
You did a great job explaining. The reason for the velocity loss (besides all the other losses) is the case swells from the charge until it contacts the oversize chambers. By that time the case has released the grip on the heeled .222"/.223" bullet and the expanding gasses are blowing by the bullet perimeter at the same time shoving it down the longer cylinder toward the forcing cone. The velocity loss is mostly blow-by from chamber being too big.
Also as you demonstrated, the star missed extraction because it's designed to grab larger diameter rims.
I really wish we could go back 70 years and slap Winchester for not making the 22 WMR just a longer 22lr so we wouldn't have a problem interchanging them.
A very informative video for those who were not aware of this. Most of the conversion revolvers I have are set up for 22 Magnum, but my most accurate 22 is a Ruger Mark II chambered in 22 long rifle.
You’re a good calm and knowledgeable teacher.
Thanks Buffalo you are a much better teacher than you think.
The best, most thorough explanation on RUclips, as far as I know.
Thank you.
Nothing teaches like a practical demonstration, good video.
I was quite impressed with your safety equipment choices for this video demonstration. I believe you proved your point; I am afraid to say anything more at this time.
A great time to be putting information like this out for new shooters. Truth be told, I had forgotten *why* not to use .22LR in a .22 Mag. I just remember that they aren't 1-way interchangeable, so this is a great refresher for me.
Btw, whether or not you're a natural teacher, you've definitely gotten good at it.
Not trying to nit pick here (because he did wait a bit and kept the revolver pointed down range), but you should never just move on the next round on a revolver cylinder when you have a miss fire. That un-fired round could be "hang fire", and you do not want that round going off not aligned with the barrel. Some revolvers seem to be designed with this in mind, having an opening for the bullet to escape in the instance of a hang fire during mis-alignment. But a lot do not. I have only ever experienced a hang fire one time with a 22lr, and it made me realize the potential danger of this happening in a revolver. Remember to ALWAYS wait a few seconds and point the fire arm in a safe direction before attempting to remove or move onto the next round. It's not a common occurrence, but it can happen. Just my two cents.
Just like I've had one car battery spray acid at me. Am I gonna wear a rubber apron and goggles? Hell no
That was a terrific tutorial and also a very good public service. Thanks very much.
Really good video Mr Buffalo! I remember when my dad bought a Winchester 94 in 22 WMR and the instruction manual said it would take 11 WMR, 15 LR and 21 Short. My dad, being a causious individual, measured the casings and found that the instruction was full of S. With the prices of 22 WMR being what they were I had to try it though but I came to the same conclusion as you did here. Thanks!
You are an excellent teacher, with a teaching style that is easy to follow. Keep up the good work!
I've been shooting along time (1974) and I never thought about shooting .22LR in a .22 mag....just knew you shouldn't. GREAT video...VERY informitave. Thank you.
I learned something new today. I own both 22 mag and 22 LR and I guess I have never realized the differences in the cases. Great video. Thank you
When I was younger we raised meat rabbits and used a ruger single six and cb shorts to dispatch them for butchering. We had the 22mag cylinder in it and thought no big deal we’re just shooting rabbits, well with the cb shorts, they lost so much energy in the magnum cylinder that they would not kill the rabbits. That was the first and last time we did that.
So we can shoot 22lr out of the 22wmr revolver! Thanks for the demonstration, i can finally stop obsessing now.
Great job explaining the difference in the two cartridges . I never new the .22mag was larger in dia. Than the .22LR . Thanks for clearing that up .
thanks buffalos --you are taking over for hickok 45
Nice job of explaining that to anybody that didn't already know about the differences and problems in trying it. Safety first as always.
Outstanding tutorial On why not to shoot .22LR in a .22 mag. cylinder.
Hell , i used to shoot 44 shells out of my 410 single shot shotgun for months till my pa cought me.Boy was he pissed !!! After he got tired of whipping my ass , he made my mom whip some more. Couldn't walk for a week.the sound of those 44 rounds tumbling thru the air , sounded like a howitzer.But i was like nine then and that was fifty years ago.Every once in a while , ill still do it. But I'll look over my should first , just to make sure my grand kids aren't there to tell on me
I beg to differ with you sir. You are a natural born teacher. You make things easy to understand. This video alone proves that.
"Not a natural teacher" Well, I respectfully disagree wholeheartedly with that statement. I don't usually disagree with what you say but this time I really do!
This video was a great demonstration on the difference between loading 22LR in a 22 WMR pistol , one of my coworkers was loading this in his Ruger LCRX 3 inch 22 Magnum , he didn’t believe me until he watched this video.. 👍👍
Thank you, sir, for another one of those "shoulda done that" videos.
I've been shooting for fifty years and couldn't have answered the question. Glad there's someone who does.
I'm sort of reminded of a thing in the large gun store here we instruct at. Given the total absence of available handgun calibers, in the ".38" caliber aisle there's a few boxes of .38 Super ammunition, and large signs the store put up declaring Super will not work in .38 Special revolvers. Guess it needs to be said.
You’re a very good teacher.
I remember back in the early 1960s when the .22 Magnum was still relatively new and unknown, a guy managed to get one pounded into the chamber of a single shot .22 LR rifle. When he fired it the barrel cracked from the breech to the muzzle. I have never seen another barrel damaged like it was.
Hi Buffalo, I learned something I’ll pass along over on the Savage forum. If you want to shoot .22 l.r. In your magnum, cut the back end off of a .22 magnum empty and it makes a perfect sleeve that a .22 lr fits right inside of. As far as velocity loss goes, I haven’t checked it out yet but they fire alright in my Savage 24 without shooting themselves up inside the barrel along with the l.r. bullet. The cases come right out and the sleeve stays put but a brush on a cleaning rod gets it out real easy. I’ll check it out more this coming summer.
A very clear demonstration. I did not know that the.22mag cases had a greater diameter than the .22lr cases.
the .22 magnum is a lengthened version of the old 22wrf
I just got one and can't wait to take it to the range.
Why hasn't the 3" lcrx had a .327 offering yet? That would be the perfect carry revolver for IWB!
I think you're a terrific teacher!
I think you are a natural teacher and appreciate your work. Thank you
Very interesting and informative. For many years I wondered myself if I could, or should, do this; now I've got my answer. Thanks Buffalo, you just earned yourself a subscription :)
Brilliant demo there Buffalo. I was one of those who asked the question, and that answered it beautifully.
SPLENDID BEHAVIOR
U r still the man Buffalo
That was a great demonstration. You are a natural! All anything takes is practice.
Oh yeah. A great way of showing revolvers spitting is placing a piece of paper against the gun on its side. People would be surprised how much fire and lead come out on normal shooting. I imagine it would be very helpful for showing 22lr from 22 mag chambers.
Im loving all of the firearms coming out now chambered in 22. Revolvers and autoloaders...I love it all!
Thanks for that testimony. It's scary to me that "newbies" wouldn't know these facts before deciding to experiment, without researching the possibilities!!! Keep up the entertaining & educational content. Happy Holidays & good health in the coming year. Barry
That was an excellent explanation and visual demonstration as well! thank you very much.
I have had several people ask me the same question good job explaining 👏
Explained very well. At one time in our lives we were all new shooters and didn't know things we take for granted now. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a great 2021.
I recently inherited my dad's 22 mag. So dang glad I saw this video.
You do a great job my friend. I love your no BS approach in your videos. Good to know that in an emergency it could work.
You ARE a good teacher by the way.
This was one of my cousins favorite tricks. He often carried a bolt action Mossberg .22 mag on the trapline. When he needed an underpowered round to kill trapped fur animals, he would slap a 22LR in the chamber of his Mossberg and use that. The case would always split and the round would be grossly underpowered making a strange report.
I have often wondered about that. But have never tried it. The cylinder on my pistol shows 22LR and the other says 22WMR. Never tried to put a LR in a WMR cylinder. And I never will.
A very informative video. Keep up the good work.
Just like Ted Danson said when describing relations with his then girlfriend, Whoopi Goldberg: "It's like throwing a hotdog down a hallway." Maybe I shouldn't repeat that. But he did say it. And it is a good comparison - for this situation and, apparently, the one in which Ol' Ted found himself.
Learned something new today. Always wondered but now I know. Thank you.
You are a good teacher, you do a 👍 job. Stay safe out there!
Folks are so used to .38 Specials being fired out of a .357 Magnum, that they think the .22s are the same. Great visual demonstration that the .22s are a whole different thing (I knew it, but your holding the cases up side by side was an eye-opener!!!!).
Well I think that’s because people that shoot 357 magnum can also shoot 38 specials out of the same gun. I have been shooting for 50 years and until you just pointed it out I did not know that about 22 Magnum’s. Nice video, thanks!
Man thats like beating a square block into a round hole 😂 . excellent video for new gun owners , merry Christmas to the buffalo outdoors family .
I’m not a new shooter by any means but I never knew why people didn’t buy .22 magnums just to shoot lr through it. Very informative thanks buffalo
You're a good Man, and a better teacher than you think. Great video
Great instructional! Some questions I had, that I wasn’t sure how to explain to my Grt Nephew. Thank you!👍🏼
thank you for your time and demo
When I finally got my Rough Rider back from Taurus, 3 months, I forgot to check the cylinder. It was the magnum cylinder and after I shot 6 lr rounds through the gun, every time I use either cylinder I get crap blown back in my face. Metal shavings I suspect. It sucks and the empties are now hard to remove, either cylinder.
I always wondered what would happen. Thanks for showing me in a safe way .
There is a way that you could fire 22 long rifle through a 22 magnum chamber. I used to do it for quite a while with a high standard Derringer. I took two fired 22 mag casings and I filed off the back of the case, and left the flange on the case. I then took a small rat tail file and I very carefully opened up the inside of the case to a point where a 22 long rifle wood slide into the case. And then I took off the part of the flange that would interfere with the extractor on that particular firearm so that I only extracted the 22 long rifle case. It function quite fine and all I had to do to remove it was to push a 20 to brush up through the gun and it would push the fired 22 mag case out of it. It worked absolutely like a charm.
Why can't you swapped it cylinders between those two guns, have you tried it. It could very well be and could very well be possible that the only difference between those two Chambers is the timing and the timing is more of a function of the ratchets on the cylinder than they are of the internal workings of the frame of the firearm. Try it you might be surprised.
Thank you, my question is answered!
An excellent and necessary video. I've wondered about this issue myself, but nobody has explained the issue as well as you have. Thank you for your guidance and education. 😎
Thanks, I'm just getting into 22 and your simple lesson was just what I needed to know.
Excellent video and explanation differences between two calibers..
I did NOT know this info. I assumed.... big mistake.
I have MANY 22s.
Thank you sir!
Thank you Buffalo. HAPPY NEW YEAR 1-5-2023 God Bless and stay safe.
Again I know you're tired of hearing it but, Awesome video. No one's ever too old or smart for some education. Thanks for putting out great information and great content, the world needs more Buffalo.
What a very thorough and thoughtful lecture! Thanks!
Awesome teaching. 😉
Good video. I wish someone had explained all this to me decades ago as a teenager when I was choosing between getting a rifle in either .22 LR and .22 magnum. I went with the magnum and definitely preferred that caliber due to its power, that is until I subsequently discovered just how much more expensive the ammo was. Then I tried to economize on occasion by shooting .22 LRs out of my .22 magnum rifle thinking they were compatible like .38 special and .357 magnum. The gun would still fire, but I always wondered why the casings often got stuck or split open. It was years later before I found out why, and even then I still didn't quite get it. This is easily the best explanation I've ever heard on the topic.
To fire .22LR in .22WMR chamber, you must paper patch the .22LR (both case body and bore portion of the bullet). Use Sellotape.
This is to help ensure the cartridge is centered (for accuracy and hammer strike on rim), and to prevent case bulge/rupture.
Very good explanation and good job teaching.
I have often wondered why someone hasn't manufactured "22 extra long rifle" ammo. It was done with the 32 S&W, the 38 special, and the 44 special by making a slightly longer case. Maybe it has something to do with the rimfire manufacturing process. Great video.
Good explanation a lot different than shooting 38 special out of a 357 revolver.
Non-teacher my foot! You covered that like a pro. Thanks Buffalo!
If I could own both of those guns I would. They are both high on my want list. But C’est la vie!
This was an excellent video! I learned something I did not know before!