The Stop and Go of Single Plane Swing Speed
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Stopping the body is as important as Moving the body in the Single Plane Swing motion. Understanding the how the body stops and goes through the movement will help you maximize your hand speed.
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Mr Graves, thanks for all your free help. That’s a big deal to me. I’m 62 and with your help I’m a born again golfer. I can hit the ball so much better. I could go on and on about this. The free part tells me a lot about how you truly want to help us. I really like Watching all your stuff but really like when you and Moe talk about the swing. Thanks for helping me and others. I’m still learning and hitting the ball better as I learn the process.
Denny Myers
“You can only be fast at one place. Make sure it’s at impact.” Tom Watson.
After 47 seven yers golf With a konventionell swing I found you and Moe, I have nerver hit the boll so good. Thank you Todd you are the best👍
ko
I have just found Todd Graves teaching the Single Plan Swing. I hope I can introduce this swing for myself. I have been forever changing this or that to no noticable improvement to my golf. I'm now 63 yo and still a golf fanatic.
I believe you just answered my problem with topping the ball which has been a continuous problem. In watching your video and comparing it with my last video of my swing, I am definitely "lifting" my lead shoulder at impact. Never realized that until now. Thanks, Todd. Will see you again next year.
This guy is good. Where have you been all my golf life. haha
Being following your Single Plane. Trying to adopt. On your theory on what Stop make the swing go faster. A typical example can be the catapult. When the soldier cut the rope (as seen in movies) to release the catapult, the arm gain speed slowly and will come to a stop to release the 'rock' and the rock gain speed and flew a great distance before hitting enemy target.
Big fan of the recent vids, keep them coming please good sir!
Thank you.
I have o e question that I haven't heard you talk about, that's club length. Would it be better to use fitted clubs with the single plane swing or can I buy any length of club from a store and start practicing? I'm only 5'-5" and wasn't sure about length of clubs.
Thanks graves, watching all your work. Great teaching techniques.
bubba watson thanks
Excellent video Todd; 6:31-6:44 is the gravy! I'm working on getting stable and accelerate. Today was a frustrating day at the range, that's to be expected after only 6 sessions, BUT I had 2 shots that were 10 yards longer than ever before with my 5h and it was into the wind! The review of my swing on video was so horrible I just couldn't upload it, but changes come with challenges, and those 2 shots got me wanting more!
Todd, great tip.
Many many years ago, I remember Chi Chi Rodrigues talking about the feeling of having your lead shoulder against a door jam. So that it would turn without moving beyond the upright jam.
George F nice.
Thank you, I’m going to work on that swing this spring. Being in Minnesota, and only December, it will be awhile. But I know I can actually do some preliminaries now.
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Moe was hit by a car in youth. Had an effect on him. He said he could have done more on tour with money from a backer. So many golfers that could have made it could not get backing/investor.
Love this! Liked and shared with my friends. It explains what happens so clearly.
Mr Genius Todd Graves
You are the legend of knowledge to become skilled golfers.👉👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you.
"Back and up, not around" is very helpful tip.
Same distance on my previous driver swing, but with this swing I always end up in the fairway or atleast on the 1st cut... A lot less error on my driver... Haven't got the right feel for the 3 wood & below, so I'm still stuck w/ my old swing... It's kinda single plane swing, but closer feet just like most of the pros...I'll practice it on range when I have a time... Thank you Sir Todd... A twice a week recreational golfer here in the Philippines... Played 81 yesterday, to be the champion on my small group... I'm usually 84 to 87...
Todd, appreciate all of your recent new videos.....question: Whatever happened to one of the 4 basic principles of Natural Golf ....”facing the ball at impact?” I have been playing NG/single plane swing for about 15yrs and always found that concept very key to the method. It was stressed during my One Day Natural Golf Clinic, way back in 2004. Thanks and keep up the good work! Jim
Face the ball at impact is conceptual. It meant that at impact you felt as though the body was facing the target line. I found that this concept helped the golfers that over rotated in the downswing and did the opposite to the golfers who under rotated in the downswing. Like all concepts, they work for some and not for others. I teach rather by actualities and movement that produces the ideal positions. When I have you keep your lead knee flexed and your trail foot on the ground, I want you to rotate to the proper amount at impact. You might "feel" that you are facing the ball at impact yet you are actually producing the ideal position of the body. This is why it is very important, to have quantified the model so that you avoid concepts that can be easily misinterpreted. Sorry for the long answer.
Best swing analysis I have ever seen. Thank you.
Todd you’re awesome, thanks for the great content.
I appreciate that! Thanks.
Beautifully explained!
Glad you liked it
Hi Ian from England just a question on why you point the club back to the target after completing the swing. Is this a requirement of the swing or a king of tribute to the late great Moe because this is how he finished his swing. Thanks
Some day I will have it and not need these swing vids anymore.
I’ve been at it 60 years, we will always need vids for reference. 👍😁
This is a very much overlooked lesson about the golf swing. Without the coil and release at the right time, legs moving past first after the coil is completed, then a person will never really be able to truly hit the golf ball well.
great lesson thank you
You are welcome!
These are really great instructional videos. Can you do a video about ball position with a single plane swing? It always seems to me that Moe had the ball further forward than you'd expect.
Will Do.
Hi Todd, im totally agree in most of the things that you teach. But im disagree in someone.
From minute 2:05 to 2:15 you say the sequence of the Back swing, and I think the the hands pull the arms, the arms pull the torax, and the torax pull the legs. So when your torax is in your maximum, your legs start to move. With this sequence you can feel the power, and this sequence is efficent in nervious moments.
I will love to know what do you think.
Thanks for the videos!! I apreciate it!!
One thing I've noticed with the single plane swing is that shift to the left side and really moving through the ball. However, in doing so do you think the ball should be teed lower with the driver? It doesn't look as though there is as much of an upswing as the conventional golf swing.
Been playing awesome, long and accurate… the last three rounds I have been struggling with the long irons, don’t know what to do. 🤷🏻♂️. 5 and 6 can’t even look at them. 👎🏼
You need coaching. Toddg@gravesgolf.com
Do you analyze the student's core strength and flexibility was those effect their ability to swing correctly? Do you have exercises to improve any deficiencies?
Another Aha video, thanks Todd!!!
Another great video. You seem to cover a lot of information lacking in others. I do have a comment on the stopping of the right shoulder. From a dynamics perspective, it seems most likely that the motion of the left shoulder away from the ball is responsible for the acceleration of the club, allowing the wrist release. The stopping point seems most critical for consistent ball strike location heel to toe, and a flattening of the club head trajectory thru impact (IMO). If the club head continues to accelerate (tangentially/ball path direction) after the left shoulder becomes largely stationary, it would imply the right hand is active. Do you see tangential acceleration continuing after the left shoulder stops in the data you collected?
Hello,nice swing,when is ur Florida.,classes start ,I'm very interested n coming ,thx
We just announced our spring schedule. Email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com and I can send the schedule to you.
started swinging this way and was hitting it well, IM a former collegiate golfer, but started to have some back issues with the new swing? IM concerned this isn't the natural swing, rather its unnatural...
Very good explanation of preventing the lead shoulder from potentially spinning out of control. I actually get the feeling of hitting against a closed lead shoulder at impact. Your term swinging against a 'stopped lead shoulder' is better.
Also I actually now see you are doing a typical release of the club head. At post impact to the ball your trail hands does seems to immediately role over your lead hand as many traditional good players do as well. Are you telling me that Moe did the same rolling over the lead hand with the trail hand release of the club as you have shown just now? Seeing that you saw him in the flesh; I guess you would be the one to know. Cheers.
Yes what you are seeing with the trail hand is a rotation BUT, think about what is actually happening, the trail hand is rotating as the torso is turning So, in effect the trial hand / arm are straightening as the torso and shoulders turn. Therefore, you don't "feel" the rotation of the hand only the extension of the trial arm as you turn. This is why Moe didn't feel the rotation of the trail hand either. Because it is happing as the body turns.
Todd Graves Thank you for the clear explanation.
Just what I need to think about. Which part to stop and which part to go. All in about a second. That won't be hard.
Actually, the point is that when your knee is flexed (lead) and your trail foot is down, you don't need to think about anything. It does it naturally. Hit your positions. That is the lesson here.
In the slow mo, it looks like your wrists touch as your hands cross over on release, is this always the case and is it intentional?
What program/ software do you use to mark your positions
I use A K-Motion Software for my analysis.
where is step one of this system?? Proper Lesson sequence? Is there a complete series?
Rob. Are you subscribed to my channel. The series is on the channel. See part 1 here: ruclips.net/video/9qSGbv90d9k/видео.html
Any chance you could do a video of the most efficient way to use your Sandy Andy club.
Hi, just wanna know about all the ball positions with different clubs, is it all the club head stay in front of your chest and just longer clubs with forward ball position? Waiting your reply thanks....golfer from Hong Kong
Ball position video coming soon.
What about using single length clubs with this single plane swing?
can you take part of the mo swing not all
why?
Does this timing only work for single plane swing?
Benjamin Sarmiento these single plane mechanics create the timing.
So what is your average driving distance using Moes swing?
David Dieter 275
I have had a lot of success off the tee with single plane but I tend to hit behind the ball or top the ball on the fairway. What am I doing wrong?
You probably have too much side tilt.
Todd Graves thank you. I really appreciate your videos!
Todd what is the distance of your average drive? Worried that this limited lower body move will reduce distance. Can you help with that fear?
I hit the ball about 275 to 280. Can hit it 290 - 300 Occasionally. Swing (clubbed) speed 108 - 110. I've never tried to swing it faster but I'm sure with a bit of speed practice I could get to 113 - 115mph. In no way am I trying to not rotate my lower body. Actually I am rotating as much as I can with a flexed lead knee. I am 35 degrees open with my pelvis at impact. Hope this helps.
Thanks. That makes sense.
Why don’t u use moe’s grip????
I do.
Are you interlocking your grip.
Jose Flores overlapping.
Why does your driver appear so short?
its actually .5 inches longer than standard.
UFO behind Mo at 1.38
it's a single plane
You are missing the Moe Norman’s magic move, he revealed part of it. There is more to it than meets the eye!
Fred Sasoon Really? Tell me... I’m ready to know how I can be better.
Todd Graves I wish I knew! I’m not pretending to know the secret! I think he never actually reveled it! The reason I watch your videos as a subscriber is because I would like to know what he thought about right before he hit the ball! I think he used the club face as reference but I don’t know exactly what part. I am right handed and left footed. I’ve played as right handed for years only to realize I should play lefty because of my balance. I kick the soccer ball with my left foot. As you know the swing is similar. He said he dropped the club face way behind his back! If you most know Moe Norman saved my swing and thanks to him I have a shot, starting with his 10 finger grip! Anyway!
@@soundwaves3883 Moe was great and like any great artist, performer, athlete, they have acquired a skill from Practice and repetition. We tend to call their skill a "secret" because it seems that they have discovered something that ONLY they can do. I don't believe that there are hidden secrets. I do believe that in the area of human performance, experiences plays a huge factor and we must experience some things for ourselves to discover them.
Todd Graves you are right about that! I guess I was just trying to get the “secret” from you! Lol! We are always trying to find the magic bullet!
@@soundwaves3883 Fred, I think the secret is that Moe was the secret. Sounds cryptic but hear me out. If you copy Moe fully, you can get Moe-like results. You can't just copy "parts" of Moe. If you want a vertical drop (Moe term) you must take a Moe-like backswing and have a Moe-like transition. Moe IS the secret.
Where would you expect a player with poor positions to be, where would there shoulder be in space
chubby chequer behind the line on the way through
we have to bend our knees or not at the time of adress ?
Keep the knees straight at address so the pelvis stays back and you stay tilted forward.
@@ToddGravesGolf sir knees will not bend in any address?
these videos spend too much time explaining shit no one can understand. Get to the fricken point and forget the squiggly lines and graphs. I mean Cmon man!
The point is the squiggly lines.
To be immersed into the education you not only need the details but should also crave them. The fast food approach to golf will have you surfing the web to be great forever and never finding your answer.
too "talky" get to the point,
Same distance on my previous driver swing, but with this swing I always end up in the fairway or atleast on the 1st cut... A lot less error on my driver... Haven't got the right feel for the 3 wood & below, so I'm still stuck w/ my old swing... It's kinda single plane swing, but closer feet just like most of the pros...I'll practice it on range when I have a time... Thank you Sir Todd... A twice a week recreational golfer here in the Philippines... Played 81 yesterday, to be the champion on my small group... I'm usually 84 to 87...