Exactly. I actually went to 3 different Rolex store to ask for a Datejust. I never wanted to beg someone to buy something but I was super nice to the AD. Of course all of the ADs I talked to promised to contact me when the watch I want is available. Well, they never did after many months. I didn’t call them either. Why do I have to beg them to sell me a watch when I have money? That’s crazy.
Don’t ever overdress yourself or grovel when shopping for luxury goods. If you walk into the store dressed casually and they ignore you, walk away. Some of these stores and brands need to be reminded of their humble beginnings.
Total BS. I'm 60, retired multimillionaire but refuse to grovel or dress like a fake. I own 3 Rolex, 15 various brands. Relationship? Buttering up? F OFF. Money talks, BS walks.
@@hollym4469stop it lol 😂. This brand is an absolute joke. Mass produced and even the super clones look exactly like it. Nothing special about this garbage brand. They are trying to be “exclusive” but they are far from it. lol 😂
@@Blastboost86 Super clones don't work after a few weeks. My Rolex has been ticking just fine for over 30 years. You're just too poor to afford quality. (Porsche is also mass produced, and it makes amazing machines.)
Or you could just go and buy an Omega or Grand Seiko online from the manufacturer and not have to jump through hoops and simp for those Rolex corporate clowns...
The current situation with ADs is ludicrous. I've worn Rolex for more than 25 years but now I'm expected to beg, give insights into my business and lifestyle and wait months on end with no idea if there will ever be a call? Forget it. If you want 5 figures of my money you'd best step up and earn it not act like you're doing me some sort of favour. An AD gets 6 weeks, after that I'll just go grey.
@@forwork2601 if you were talking about a Patek, I’d agree, but Rolex produces well over a million watches a year, and in many cases it’s just a luxury tool watch. it’s the image and faux persona that makes it valuable and elusive.
I have such disdain for this kind of mentality, when you are looked down by a merchant. "You are not good enough for our brand." That is so pathetic. Rolex can keep their overpriced garbage. The joke is on Rolex. Rolex as founded by a German in London. Two words: Grand Seiko.
I went to an AD yesterday to pick up a Rolex Explorer 40 mm, my first from them after waiting for a month. I was asked, are you excited? I said no. Why? He asked. My response: because I've already owned several of them. And if the AD doesn't want to sell me the watch that I want, no big deal. I'll just invest my money into a stock market index fund or buy another Casio.
I remember a time when you could walk into a Rolex AD or boutique and buy a watch that day. I walked into a Rolex AD. There were no Daytonas on display. I asked if they had Daytonas. She went back and came to the sales floor with three models. That was my first Rolex. No BS. No wait lists. That was the start of a relationship and many purchases later. They also were dealers for Chopard, Omega, Grand Seiko, and Cartier. I became a customer for those brands as well.
Sorry pal, I won't kiss anyone's ass to buy their product. Their business has always been false exclusivity anyway and I choose not to participate in that charade.
@@brevobrevo lol not really... try to buy a panda or a pepsi or sprite.... heh im trying to get my hands on those... but as things are going on... illl prolly just grab a snoopy 50th speedmaster
I walked into my AD last week and told them to take my (expression of interest) off the imaginary list.........I felt so good walking out. I'm sure they didn't care and that's fine too. Today I'm picking up my grail watch (not Rolex) and I'm happy. In saying that, I don't see anything wrong with Rolex watches but I'm sick of games, I have better things to do with my life :)
If your grail watch was a Rolex you’re just going to want a Rolex later on. Your other watch is not the grail you wanted, it’s just going to remind you of the Rolex.
I really don't care, I mean not worth it to put more affort to own a watch. I just want to pay for it, I don't care about bullshit. There are many great brands out there, no reason to waste time...
I feel the same ie very disappointed in the A.Ds and not being able to buy the watches. They should be grateful that people are willing to spend that kind of money on their watches and by making them available to customers it deals with the flipper problems ie if the watches are available to buy then there’s no profit to flippers.
Yep exactly, the people that work there are literally mall kiosk sales people. Sooo any job title you have (part time librarian) is more impressive than what they do.
So basically, you have to do the opposita as that scene in "Pretty Woman" movie. You have to suck up to the dealer instead of being the opposite. This world is getting worse and worse...
None of these things happened to me. The AD never asked my job, never asked my reason for wanting the watch. She simply asked which models I was interested in, took my name and info, and 7 months later, she texted me that the watch was available. That's it. I went in the next day and bought the watch. As it turns out, I'm a vascular surgeon. I dress well but not "rich". I didn't know how to play the Rolex game, so I didn't play it. I gave my info, shook hands with the sales lady, and walked out of the store fully expecting never to hear back from them.
they google and search your name on the internet and linkedin. You're a surgeon? then you work at a hospital or probably teach at your local University's med school probably. I'm guessing your name shows up if someone googles it.
I always wear jeans, hoodie, Polo Shirt, Nike Air Max. I have bought for Rolexes from my AD in 2.5 years, all the ones wanted. Got 2 calls in two months...They don't care what you dress like.
Asking for the sales manager is a dick move IMO. So rude to the sales assistant that you are trying to build a relationship with. Its like asking a first date if she has any prettier friends 😂 Be friendly to everyone in the store and hope to chat to the sales manager or hope he/she overhears your conversation. A sales manager liking you when he/she thinks you do not know they are the sales manager is Golden IMO. The trick is to oil the wheels without letting them see the oil can ; ) It's an art that not many people possess, and you cannot teach.
Just go grey, Rolex keep on increasing their prices so by the time you've been on the wait list for years the new price will be the same as the pre-owned nearly new price anyway.
I’ve walked into Cartier walked out with Santos. Walked into Omega walked out with Worldtimer. I’m here cause I respect Rolex as a brand but as a watch there’s a plethora of better watches out there.
I walked in my AD with shorts and t shirt. Full body suit of tattoos. Got my rolex in 3 months. My Snoopy was offered to me without even asking for it. So I can honestly say who gives a shit what you look like or how much you earn. Even the owner told me he'll get me a Batman.
@@p.istaker8862 Rolex are made by hand. You're just too poor to afford one, so you claim they're bad. Ever read Aesop's fable about the fox and the grapes?
@@hollym4469 A large part of Rolex assembly is automated. I suggest you look at each word in my original statement and try and work out what they mean when put together in a series of sentences. I at no point made any reference to Rolex being bad. As for not being able to afford one, you know nothing about me. I don't know why you are referring to Aesop's Fable, when you seem unable to read and understand a simple statement.
laod of malarky, you don't need to sell yourself to buy a watch, you go in and ask, if you get offered one that's all good, but don't play into the Rolex AD games! YOU DONT NEED TO SELL YOURSELF
If I’m not good enough in someone’s eye to own a bloody watch, then sorry that watch , brand whatever won’t get purchased. There are far more important things in life to concern myself in begging for a blinkin watch…….
Say you finally get the call and they get you your first entry level rolex (stainless datejust 41). How long should you wait before you ask for a little higher tier watch (sub date stainless) ?
So my first watch from my local AD was a 36mm two tone datejust with jubilee strap, fluted bezel, diamond set indices on a champagne dial. At the time I had maybe a 3k spend. One year later I was offered and picked up the two tone GMT GRNR. During the one year time frame I had also purchased a black bay 54. Based on my purchase history I could probably request a Batman, Batgirl or Pepsi next without any issues.
Not sure where you gentlemen are located, but here in the states the leverage has shifted quite a bit since 2019, less games need to be played and the market is dictating a reversion to the mean. Very few people wait longer than a few months for most steel sports watches, I know a few of my friends have walked in to an A.D. and bought the watch the same day. Same goes for a few of the Rolex boutiques
Rolex production is around 1 - 2 million watches a year. That idea that people have in their minds of a gentleman in switzerland in between the mountains making by hand your watch is so far from reality. This is mass production, by the millions just like any other fabric. Having to suplicate to be given the "privilage" of spending 20 thousand euros, hard earned money, is just ridiculous. I buy homage watches and I make a statement through that. I have right now the capacity to buy at retail a GMT Pepsi, a Rolex Submariner Date and a Day Date with the Daddy configuration (jubilee and flutted bezel) I CAN BUY IT NOW. But when I went there they would just wanted to sell me the crap or the presious metals, I cant buy the steel ones. So I am suppossed to spend a 100k before getting the "chance" the "privilage" to spend another 13 000 euros in another GMT Master II Pepsi ? FUCK NO. PD: I gotta say as a sales man what they have done as commercial strategy is nothing but magnificent, even better than their watches. They have manipulated everyone masterfully, really inteligent people manipulating very stupid people.
Maybe you're the one full of crap, flying the flag of a nation that actively support genocide in Gaza. It's disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Most of what he says is true in my experience. I've been with my AD for 2 years and just got my second Rolex from them, both watches I genuinely wanted. On my first visit they asked what I do for a living and noticed that I was wearing a nice watch (an old Omega Seamaster). They asked if I had a wife and whether she liked watches as well. They took my ID so they know where I live. I don't dress up when I visit but don't look like a tramp (jeans and a shirt is fine). IMO the most important things are to be genuinely interested in the watches (rather than their value) and to be friendly and relaxed. Talk about other things as well as watches. Common courtesy/politeness is enough. I genuinely enjoy my visits and get on really well with the Rolex Manager.
Listen; he’s keeping it real. And what he’s describing you need to do is the same things we do in business to have success. They ultimately are protecting their brand. Those who are commenting “I’m not going to change myself for a piece of metal” are missing the point. In fact the person he is describing isn’t changing themselves. They are influential people. Me myself I have great relationship not just with my AD but with the hostess at my favorite restaurant etc. it’s all because I’m not self centered and I take the time and effort to get to know people and build genuine rapport. For some of you this is difficult.
Now there's a social circle I'm glad to not be a part of. If in-fact, this drivel is true, it cements my beliefs that fools with money and shysters deserve each-other.
I personally find Rolex's ugly and if I ever wanted one I can easily afford to pay a premium to a reseller no problem. I would never want to beg some one for a piece of metal. This is why I love Omega watches, I have always had absolute pleasure in dealing with them over the years and they make much more beautiful and pleasing watches.
A sale is a sale, no matter who it is sold to. I'm not going to beg someone to take my money. If an AD won't sell me a watch then I'll just go with another brand. I don't have to have a Rolex. If I do then I'll go to the secondhand market.
I don't know if the luxury watches market work like that, but If rolex would sell more watches, it wouldn't reduce the grey market? Grey market would exist anyway, but the sense of "exclusivity" is useless if you can buy the same model innthe grey market...
its gonna come to a head and crash at some point. Rolex makes 1.2M watches a year, making up something like 1/3 of the revenue of all swiss watches sold - those watches are getting sold somewhere. at this point I think grey dealers are sitting on way too much inventory at way too high prices but they are so over leveraged they cant afford a 10% loss on 75% of their inventory. Its gonna come hard when things just stop moving and a lot of grey dealers are gonna lose their shirts.
I went into my local AD recently just to browse. I had on a brand new Breitling Navi B01 and mentioned I bought a DJ 41 from them a few years earlier. I was offered a white gold SkyDweller, a Bluesy, and a steel Deepsea on the spot. Almost pulled the trigger on the Deepsea. Maybe they are finally starting to lighten up?
He's right about the sales managers, they're the main reason why i left rolex. Usually peope who knows nothing about the industry but the ones who pick out whi get what not even knowing the relationships you build
I just put myself on a list. I’m in the USA, I had an absolute fantastic experience. I’m a working man, not a Milionaire. I told him that Inplan on financing it. I’m buying a Watch for my son. Just be straight up, don’t make shit up.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Put on an audition for a chance to buy a $20,000 staineless steel watch? Allow a Rolex dealer to run a background check before considering you as a potential customer?
As someone who dresses as a bum 90% of the time, it's always comical to me when people assume my income or what I can afford to buy or not. Begging you for a watch is the absolute last thing you'll get out of me.
It's pretty bad. I was just checking Google reviews of some ADs in my area to see which one to visit. I noticed people leaving very positive reviews about their customer service experience even though they didn't buy a single Rolex watch.
This is exactly why I would never buy a Rolex, aside from thinking most of them are rather gaudy. This is the type of person to me, that would wear a Rolex.
So what! Nice watches but nothing is worth prostituting one's self to corporatism? I have too much self respect and life experience for that carry-on. 😅
And the funny part is that the customers who are expected to jump through these hoops are SIGNIFICANTLY more wealthy than any of the Reps that are deciding who is 'permitted' to buy one of THEIR watches! lol It's like a 'high class' power struggle, where the 'Six Figure' Sales people get a chance to fuck with the 'Seven Figure' clientele.
I went into Watches of Switzerland in London, told them my name is Doctor Phil Reid, showed them the FaceBook profile you used at another AD a couple of years ago, and they sold me a Panda Daytona! Phil you are a genius for conning these ADs!
This is a good video. It's truthful and helpful. Sadly, the truth hurts which is why the dislike percentage is so high. But from everything I've heard so far this seems to be the most reasonable video about the subject.
Just got a Yacht Master 40mm blue dial this week from AD. Was only a 4 week wait. He did say the sprite would take a little longer to get. But he definitely would get it. Zero purchase history but I did go wearing my 42mm Yacht Master white gold on oyster flex. I did let him know I think the Sub and Daytona look like crap. Zero interest in either of those. Also don’t like the Explorer 2. But I do like the sky dweller a lot.
Utter nonsense. Plumbers and Retail staff get offered Rolex's IME People coming up with stories are so transparent. Even if the story is true they can sound made up lol.
Lol. Boy, I'm really glad I don't like any of Rolex's modern offerings. Haven't since my last new purchase in 2010 and that was one of the few remaining AD stock five digit subs. Actually, I lost interest in 2003 when they dropped the drilled lugs.
U forgot to mention the undertable ‘incentives’ the sales ppl in AD are getting for supplying to the grey market. For some watch enthusiasts like me, it has come to a point to say Fxxx Rolex, I don’t need to purchase one with so much hassle. Let’s move up higher to a JLC or equivalent.
My family we stay humble and happy with what we are blessed with in life. Yes I love the video and makes perfect sense plus keeps you under the radar for one’s wealth is a personal mental state.
I'd find it easy to buy a Rolex from an AD. The reason for this is I have very narrow tastes in watches. I don't like diver's watches or anything with an engraved or rotating bezel, GMTs, chronographs, anything two tone or made of precious metals and don't like bling - pretty much every Rolex that re-sells at a premium is a watch I have no interest in and wouldn't ever wear.. . It makes it easy because the only Rolex watches I'd consider wearing are the Air King and the Oyster in plain SS and the ADs know I won't be handing it to a flipper because there's no money to be made in reselling either model. There isn't a waiting list for them either, because the ADs can't make extra profit selling them through the back door so there is no artificial shortage, I'm still looking at watches and may decide on Air King, but if an AD tries any 'are you a suitable customer for Rolex' or suggests I register on a waiting list I'll burst out laughing and walk out.
Go ahead and be a simp for a brand. I stopped buying Rolexes when they started shorting the supply deliberately. When I go to the store, I don't dress up. I live so close to the store that it is pretentious to even dress up. I just show up with my normal clothes and they wont sell me anymore.
This looks to apply only to those who can barely afford a Rolex or maybe are a little above that. I would never want to put that much effort and waste time on this. You want my business YOU have to work for it.
Sod Begging an AD shop worker who earns a nice living I'm sure, but has no idea who I am or what I earn or what I do. In the last year I have bought a blue steel skydweller on jubilee for myself, a blue 41mm OP for one of my boys and a black 41mm OP for my other boy. I had a more pleasureable experience buying those on the grey market then from an AD (who I have been to and make me feel like I'm unworthy of their time) - Their loss not mine.
Don't forget the AD not selling you a watch because he's selling it out the back door into the gray market and getting a kickback. Don't tell me it isn't happening.
The look on the face of a watch dealer is priceless, when you pay for your Rolex in full on a basic credit card and it goes through. (Yes, you can boost up your credit limit by depositing funds to the credit card beforehand.)
Is that unusual? My MasterCard limit was just automatically increased incrementally to $25K over the years, and I never actually requested an increase. I figured it was just because I used the card fairly often, but never carried a balance, so they were probably hoping I'd eventually 'splurge' on something that I'd have to start paying interest on... I eventually had to request that they STOP automatically increasing the limit, because 'Credit Checks' actually consider your Income v.s. the POTENTIAL DEBT that you could accrue... So for instance, having a $50K limit can actually be 'detrimental', because it means that at any time you could immediately rack up $50K in debt and not pay it back. Debt is just crazy when you look into it. It's actually just a COMMODITY, that companies buy and sell just like any other 'investment'! lol Like if you were a 'debt collecting' business, you could probably actually 'purchase' your own debt for significantly less than the 'value'! Because these companies will 'BUY' your debt for 50% of the total amount, and then try to collect the full 100% from you to make their profit! Bring back the GOLD STANDARD!!! lol
How to buy a Panda Daytona today! Here is a hack for you guys. Walk into any AD, ask to see an exhibition model Daytona and then "accidently" drop it. Make sure the sapphire crystal is broken. They will make you pay for it at retail price for breaking the Daytona. You got yourself a Daytona! send it for a full service and it'll come back brand new.
Bro, if they bring the watch over and the transaction goes through they get their money right away. What do they care how much you earn or what you look like lol. They want to milk more business out of you, simple. So if you’re a big spender, they’ll sell to you. I went to get a JLC and asked for a discount, the sales rep said “we cant give you a discount but we’ll sell you a rolex if you buy the JLC” . I was like “I need one watch” and wished them a nice day
It doesn't make sense. If ADs were so concerned about reselling, they shouldn't be stoking the second-hand market via difficult customer experiences. The second-hand market is purely driven by demand and artificial-short-supply. But perhaps this is the point. Rolex extracts a lot of money from very wealthy people who stock pile unhealthy numbers of unworn and pristine Rolexes in a vault somewhere. When these gluttonous collectors start dumping their loot in the next couple of decades, Rolex will go the way of the Beanie Babies, and we'll start seeing many Stainless Steel samples cluttering the shelves of Goodwill and general thrift stores.
Ces marques réussissent à faire croire que c'est un privilège pour l'acheteur de leur acheter un objet dont le bénéfice net pour l'entreprise est entre 800 et 1000 % !!! Quant à l'AD il prend modestement entre 30 et 40% ! C'est complètement fou... Et ça marche ! Ces marques font des prodiges en matière de communication permettant par la suite de vendre du rêve autour de leur produits. Ca marche pour Rolex tout comme Louis Vuitton, Ferrari ou Château Lafite.
Haha or I could just walk into an Omega AD and walk out with the watch I want…sans kneeling and kissing the ring…or in this case…Crown. I may even get a little off the principle
I walked into a Rolex AD in the Caribbean and was offered 3 watches. The Daytona steel and gold, the all gold Skydweller and a Explorer 36. This was in mid-June and I was in shorts and a t-shirt just like every other tourist down there. It seems like a lot of Rolex dealers are slowly starting to get inventory back in.
A world coming out of a pandemic..supply will be short. It's the Grey market that has their concern..why sell a watch to someone who will flip it? And for those who really want a rolex, the stores will always be there.
I won't do any of that, I'll just keep my money until, in some years, they will give me a truly luxurious service experience. I don t have to prove anything to anybody
12k plus for a ss dj41 fluted jubilee gray market green,blue, Wimbledon dial no thanks try to get from ad rrp 9300 uk once it hits 10k no thanks its not worth it
Yeah these seven reason do apply to some buyers but there is only one reason why the ADs won't sell you a new high sought after watch. The ADs (not all but most) are the GMDs themselves.
I came to the store when I already had a sumbariner ordered for 10 months with a buyer of my Tudor Pelagos that I sold and the buyer wanted to see if all is ok with the watch. I was taken of the order list right away. Then I had enough and called a friend who is a huge client who can buy the most expensive models and I got the call from AD and a watch in few days. At first I wanted to buy it on my own and wait like normal guy. So buying proces is really sh....
Don’t like to say it but I’d agree with most of what you say I’ve read the comments he’s not talking crap it’s just the way it is I’d rather play the game and save 3 thousand on a watch than pay a grey market dealer over the odds. Having said that I’ve been lucky and I’ve got my watches quicker than I was originally told
Begging and changing yourself for a nice but still piece of metal!? No, thank you. Self respect should be a priority.
Exactly. I actually went to 3 different Rolex store to ask for a Datejust. I never wanted to beg someone to buy something but I was super nice to the AD. Of course all of the ADs I talked to promised to contact me when the watch I want is available. Well, they never did after many months. I didn’t call them either. Why do I have to beg them to sell me a watch when I have money? That’s crazy.
What would you change?
Don’t ever overdress yourself or grovel when shopping for luxury goods. If you walk into the store dressed casually and they ignore you, walk away. Some of these stores and brands need to be reminded of their humble beginnings.
lol😂 Rolex don’t care.
Total BS. I'm 60, retired multimillionaire but refuse to grovel or dress like a fake. I own 3 Rolex, 15 various brands. Relationship? Buttering up? F OFF. Money talks, BS walks.
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Losing my dignity for a mass production watch? No thanks
Wow, what dignity? Give them your name and they call you back after a few months. It ain't that hard, bud.
@@hollym4469stop it lol 😂. This brand is an absolute joke. Mass produced and even the super clones look exactly like it. Nothing special about this garbage brand. They are trying to be “exclusive” but they are far from it. lol 😂
@@Blastboost86 Super clones don't work after a few weeks.
My Rolex has been ticking just fine for over 30 years.
You're just too poor to afford quality. (Porsche is also mass produced, and it makes amazing machines.)
Or you could just go and buy an Omega or Grand Seiko online from the manufacturer and not have to jump through hoops and simp for those Rolex corporate clowns...
Exactly what I did. I had checked out Rolex AD and got the list check, walked over to Omega and got what I wanted. Couldn't be happier
Yes, Omega is an alternative but if someone initially wants a Rolex won't go for a Japanese watch.
The current situation with ADs is ludicrous. I've worn Rolex for more than 25 years but now I'm expected to beg, give insights into my business and lifestyle and wait months on end with no idea if there will ever be a call?
Forget it. If you want 5 figures of my money you'd best step up and earn it not act like you're doing me some sort of favour.
An AD gets 6 weeks, after that I'll just go grey.
You need to earn the respect of the watch and especially the AD. Not just anyone can join Rolex town
@@forwork2601 if you were talking about a Patek, I’d agree, but Rolex produces well over a million watches a year, and in many cases it’s just a luxury tool watch. it’s the image and faux persona that makes it valuable and elusive.
They actually sell to grey market dealers for the same reason.
The leverage is waning from the A.D. side, the market dynamics are changing and Rolex is changing their tune.
I have such disdain for this kind of mentality, when you are looked down by a merchant. "You are not good enough for our brand." That is so pathetic. Rolex can keep their overpriced garbage. The joke is on Rolex. Rolex as founded by a German in London. Two words: Grand Seiko.
100 % Grand Seiko. For those who want to pay for the watch, rather than Roger Federer's yacht!
Begging and grovelling for a watch, absolutely not. I’ve got more pride, need to have a word with yourself if you think happiness is a watch.
I went to an AD yesterday to pick up a Rolex Explorer 40 mm, my first from them after waiting for a month. I was asked, are you excited? I said no. Why? He asked. My response: because I've already owned several of them. And if the AD doesn't want to sell me the watch that I want, no big deal. I'll just invest my money into a stock market index fund or buy another Casio.
Nice! That's the truth, they're just hyping their own product.
Things that didn’t happen 😂
I remember a time when you could walk into a Rolex AD or boutique and buy a watch that day. I walked into a Rolex AD. There were no Daytonas on display. I asked if they had Daytonas. She went back and came to the sales floor with three models. That was my first Rolex. No BS. No wait lists. That was the start of a relationship and many purchases later. They also were dealers for Chopard, Omega, Grand Seiko, and Cartier. I became a customer for those brands as well.
This is how these dealers should act to gain customer loyalty, and that was how it was in the 1990s.
Sometimes you just talk crap
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@@antevrankovic4539 😂😂😂 why are you butt sore? Did he make fun of your daddy Mitch?
What EXACTLY did he SAY in this VIDEO that is CRAP???
@@IfyoudontliveinLDNyouarescum dont understand and dont care, thx
Sorry pal, I won't kiss anyone's ass to buy their product. Their business has always been false exclusivity anyway and I choose not to participate in that charade.
What a terrible day to have ears.
I actually watched this twice. Got some good laughs out of it 😂
What absolute garbage did i just listen to 😂
Bro still thinks it's 2022. I can get 70% Rolex offers for cheaper on the grey... The tables have turned, it's a buyers market now.
@@brevobrevonot exactly true, depends on what model. Try to get a skydweller retail or lower on the grey. I’ll wait..
@@rosakop1 Not the best example as the skydweller isnt really demanded but steel datejust, submariner etc is still not easy to get.
The truth.
@@brevobrevo lol not really... try to buy a panda or a pepsi or sprite.... heh im trying to get my hands on those... but as things are going on... illl prolly just grab a snoopy 50th speedmaster
I walked into my AD last week and told them to take my (expression of interest) off the imaginary list.........I felt so good walking out. I'm sure they didn't care and that's fine too. Today I'm picking up my grail watch (not Rolex) and I'm happy. In saying that, I don't see anything wrong with Rolex watches but I'm sick of games, I have better things to do with my life :)
What watch is it?
If your grail watch was a Rolex you’re just going to want a Rolex later on.
Your other watch is not the grail you wanted, it’s just going to remind you of the Rolex.
@@fj7509 i got a feeling he won’t answer which watch it is. Sounds like a made up story
@@fj7509 he’s lying. Made up story. Won’t name the watch
Should have just texted or emailed, not worth the time and effort to walk in
"You don't have a good enough reason to want a Rolex"
What the actual fuck.
I really don't care, I mean not worth it to put more affort to own a watch. I just want to pay for it, I don't care about bullshit. There are many great brands out there, no reason to waste time...
Just buy grey market under retail model
I feel the same ie very disappointed in the A.Ds and not being able to buy the watches.
They should be grateful that people are willing to spend that kind of money on their watches and by making them available to customers it deals with the flipper problems ie if the watches are available to buy then there’s no profit to flippers.
I’m so over them. They are gonna judge what I earn? Hilarious
Totally agree! Not only] great brands but better brands. I have been at this for 40 years, Both sides of the counter.
Yep exactly, the people that work there are literally mall kiosk sales people. Sooo any job title you have (part time librarian) is more impressive than what they do.
How tf did he get to 50k subs with so much bs. I'm out.
Never trust a business that makes it hard for you to give them money.
So basically, you have to do the opposita as that scene in "Pretty Woman" movie. You have to suck up to the dealer instead of being the opposite. This world is getting worse and worse...
i'm a librarian and I wear patek only
You’ve saved your nickels
Or just cross the road and buy Omega :)
Many are whining about Rolex, still watches videos about how to get a Rolex…..
None of these things happened to me. The AD never asked my job, never asked my reason for wanting the watch. She simply asked which models I was interested in, took my name and info, and 7 months later, she texted me that the watch was available. That's it. I went in the next day and bought the watch.
As it turns out, I'm a vascular surgeon. I dress well but not "rich". I didn't know how to play the Rolex game, so I didn't play it. I gave my info, shook hands with the sales lady, and walked out of the store fully expecting never to hear back from them.
they google and search your name on the internet and linkedin. You're a surgeon? then you work at a hospital or probably teach at your local University's med school probably. I'm guessing your name shows up if someone googles it.
@ It's good to be wealthy and well-educated, I guess. I'm a good brand ambassador. I just wish I were better-looking.
begging to a company in order to spend my money?! That's just stupid in my book. Each to their own...
I always wear jeans, hoodie, Polo Shirt, Nike Air Max. I have bought for Rolexes from my AD in 2.5 years, all the ones wanted. Got 2 calls in two months...They don't care what you dress like.
Asking for the sales manager is a dick move IMO.
So rude to the sales assistant that you are trying to build a relationship with.
Its like asking a first date if she has any prettier friends 😂
Be friendly to everyone in the store and hope to chat to the sales manager or hope he/she overhears your conversation.
A sales manager liking you when he/she thinks you do not know they are the sales manager is Golden IMO.
The trick is to oil the wheels without letting them see the oil can ; )
It's an art that not many people possess, and you cannot teach.
Just go grey, Rolex keep on increasing their prices so by the time you've been on the wait list for years the new price will be the same as the pre-owned nearly new price anyway.
There is a lot of truth to that....
I’ve walked into Cartier walked out with Santos. Walked into Omega walked out with Worldtimer. I’m here cause I respect Rolex as a brand but as a watch there’s a plethora of better watches out there.
No librarians were harmed in the making of this video.
I disagree wholeheartedly, a few egos have been softly bruised
Almost sounds like a first date. Should you wine and dine them as well?
Do you "go downtown" or just kiss and make out?
Mortgage, wife and kids does not equal more disposable income.
I walked in my AD with shorts and t shirt. Full body suit of tattoos. Got my rolex in 3 months. My Snoopy was offered to me without even asking for it. So I can honestly say who gives a shit what you look like or how much you earn. Even the owner told me he'll get me a Batman.
You can also make it to a 100 years despite smoking. Still that doesnt mean its a good idea to smoke.
Been in Patek with shorts and t-shirt - money talks, bs walks!
I guess there's a difference between AD and a boutique. There's no owner to chat-up in a boutique. All the staff has their script ready and protocols.
@@sleepdeprived9181 nope. Rolex have always owned ZERO stores - only since they have bought Bucherer.
My question is, what is the region where this is located. It’s good to know peoples experiences whether they’re in the United States or in Europe etc.
Or just simply buy an Omega, or a Grand Seiko, or maybe even a Longines! It's really simple.
But those watches are crap.
@@hollym4469 compared to what?
@@hollym4469 Grand Seiko are hand made. Not machine made like a Rolex. So far from crap.
@@p.istaker8862 Rolex are made by hand. You're just too poor to afford one, so you claim they're bad. Ever read Aesop's fable about the fox and the grapes?
@@hollym4469 A large part of Rolex assembly is automated. I suggest you look at each word in my original statement and try and work out what they mean when put together in a series of sentences. I at no point made any reference to Rolex being bad. As for not being able to afford one, you know nothing about me. I don't know why you are referring to Aesop's Fable, when you seem unable to read and understand a simple statement.
laod of malarky, you don't need to sell yourself to buy a watch, you go in and ask, if you get offered one that's all good, but don't play into the Rolex AD games! YOU DONT NEED TO SELL YOURSELF
The classism in this video is nauseating.
If I’m not good enough in someone’s eye to own a bloody watch, then sorry that watch , brand whatever won’t get purchased. There are far more important things in life to concern myself in begging for a blinkin watch…….
Say you finally get the call and they get you your first entry level rolex (stainless datejust 41). How long should you wait before you ask for a little higher tier watch (sub date stainless) ?
So my first watch from my local AD was a 36mm two tone datejust with jubilee strap, fluted bezel, diamond set indices on a champagne dial. At the time I had maybe a 3k spend. One year later I was offered and picked up the two tone GMT GRNR. During the one year time frame I had also purchased a black bay 54. Based on my purchase history I could probably request a Batman, Batgirl or Pepsi next without any issues.
Not sure where you gentlemen are located, but here in the states the leverage has shifted quite a bit since 2019, less games need to be played and the market is dictating a reversion to the mean.
Very few people wait longer than a few months for most steel sports watches, I know a few of my friends have walked in to an A.D. and bought the watch the same day. Same goes for a few of the Rolex boutiques
Where yu get yours from sunshine bit shady 🤔
Let's get rid of flippers, don't buy watches from the gray market! 😂
Rolex production is around 1 - 2 million watches a year. That idea that people have in their minds of a gentleman in switzerland in between the mountains making by hand your watch is so far from reality. This is mass production, by the millions just like any other fabric. Having to suplicate to be given the "privilage" of spending 20 thousand euros, hard earned money, is just ridiculous. I buy homage watches and I make a statement through that. I have right now the capacity to buy at retail a GMT Pepsi, a Rolex Submariner Date and a Day Date with the Daddy configuration (jubilee and flutted bezel) I CAN BUY IT NOW. But when I went there they would just wanted to sell me the crap or the presious metals, I cant buy the steel ones. So I am suppossed to spend a 100k before getting the "chance" the "privilage" to spend another 13 000 euros in another GMT Master II Pepsi ? FUCK NO.
PD: I gotta say as a sales man what they have done as commercial strategy is nothing but magnificent, even better than their watches. They have manipulated everyone masterfully, really inteligent people manipulating very stupid people.
Should I have my grey market acquired gmt on my wrist when I go to the AD?
I work in tech, I wear t-shirts shorts and flip flops and I earn a very good salary. I had no problem buying a watch from an AD. You are full of crap
Maybe you're the one full of crap, flying the flag of a nation that actively support genocide in Gaza. It's disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Most of what he says is true in my experience. I've been with my AD for 2 years and just got my second Rolex from them, both watches I genuinely wanted. On my first visit they asked what I do for a living and noticed that I was wearing a nice watch (an old Omega Seamaster). They asked if I had a wife and whether she liked watches as well. They took my ID so they know where I live. I don't dress up when I visit but don't look like a tramp (jeans and a shirt is fine). IMO the most important things are to be genuinely interested in the watches (rather than their value) and to be friendly and relaxed. Talk about other things as well as watches. Common courtesy/politeness is enough. I genuinely enjoy my visits and get on really well with the Rolex Manager.
Listen; he’s keeping it real. And what he’s describing you need to do is the same things we do in business to have success. They ultimately are protecting their brand. Those who are commenting “I’m not going to change myself for a piece of metal” are missing the point. In fact the person he is describing isn’t changing themselves. They are influential people. Me myself I have great relationship not just with my AD but with the hostess at my favorite restaurant etc. it’s all because I’m not self centered and I take the time and effort to get to know people and build genuine rapport. For some of you this is difficult.
Now there's a social circle I'm glad to not be a part of. If in-fact, this drivel is true, it cements my beliefs that fools with money and shysters deserve each-other.
You perfectly described the Rolex CPO market!
I personally find Rolex's ugly and if I ever wanted one I can easily afford to pay a premium to a reseller no problem. I would never want to beg some one for a piece of metal. This is why I love Omega watches, I have always had absolute pleasure in dealing with them over the years and they make much more beautiful and pleasing watches.
A sale is a sale, no matter who it is sold to. I'm not going to beg someone to take my money. If an AD won't sell me a watch then I'll just go with another brand. I don't have to have a Rolex. If I do then I'll go to the secondhand market.
You can't lie? Of course you can, they are you can too.
I don't know if the luxury watches market work like that, but If rolex would sell more watches, it wouldn't reduce the grey market? Grey market would exist anyway, but the sense of "exclusivity" is useless if you can buy the same model innthe grey market...
its gonna come to a head and crash at some point. Rolex makes 1.2M watches a year, making up something like 1/3 of the revenue of all swiss watches sold - those watches are getting sold somewhere. at this point I think grey dealers are sitting on way too much inventory at way too high prices but they are so over leveraged they cant afford a 10% loss on 75% of their inventory. Its gonna come hard when things just stop moving and a lot of grey dealers are gonna lose their shirts.
5:45 now what kind of student is going to be inside of a Rolex store ?
I went into my local AD recently just to browse. I had on a brand new Breitling Navi B01 and mentioned I bought a DJ 41 from them a few years earlier. I was offered a white gold SkyDweller, a Bluesy, and a steel Deepsea on the spot. Almost pulled the trigger on the Deepsea. Maybe they are finally starting to lighten up?
He's right about the sales managers, they're the main reason why i left rolex. Usually peope who knows nothing about the industry but the ones who pick out whi get what not even knowing the relationships you build
I just put myself on a list. I’m in the USA, I had an absolute fantastic experience. I’m a working man, not a Milionaire. I told him that Inplan on financing it. I’m buying a Watch for my son. Just be straight up, don’t make shit up.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Put on an audition for a chance to buy a $20,000 staineless steel watch? Allow a Rolex dealer to run a background check before considering you as a potential customer?
As someone who dresses as a bum 90% of the time, it's always comical to me when people assume my income or what I can afford to buy or not. Begging you for a watch is the absolute last thing you'll get out of me.
What a strange world we live. All this fannying about for a watch.
It's not the brand I hate; it's their FANS!
It's pretty bad. I was just checking Google reviews of some ADs in my area to see which one to visit. I noticed people leaving very positive reviews about their customer service experience even though they didn't buy a single Rolex watch.
Does zenith make the mechanics for rolex.i was told this by a specalist in abu dhabi
If my mom has a fashion brand and sells jewelry to an ad for years would they sell her a harder watch to get?
This is beyond stupid.
ABOVE ALL, WEAR A MAGA HAT WHEN YOU WALK IN.
Tell 'em you're running late for your golf game with Donald.
This is exactly why I would never buy a Rolex, aside from thinking most of them are rather gaudy. This is the type of person to me, that would wear a Rolex.
So what! Nice watches but nothing is worth prostituting one's self to corporatism? I have too much self respect and life experience for that carry-on. 😅
And the funny part is that the customers who are expected to jump through these hoops are SIGNIFICANTLY more wealthy than any of the Reps that are deciding who is 'permitted' to buy one of THEIR watches! lol It's like a 'high class' power struggle, where the 'Six Figure' Sales people get a chance to fuck with the 'Seven Figure' clientele.
Phil, Why are AD's giving you so many watches, you resell them.
He doesn’t get any watches from an AD! He buys them from people who get them and resells them.
That’s why all he does is trash talk ADs.
So people feel like they have to go to him and pay 3X over retail to get their Rolex lmao
I went into Watches of Switzerland in London, told them my name is Doctor Phil Reid, showed them the FaceBook profile you used at another AD a couple of years ago, and they sold me a Panda Daytona! Phil you are a genius for conning these ADs!
Who would have enough money to buy a Rolex without a having decent job anyways?
This is a good video. It's truthful and helpful. Sadly, the truth hurts which is why the dislike percentage is so high. But from everything I've heard so far this seems to be the most reasonable video about the subject.
Good video, but why would I, a CUSTOMER put so much effort and possibly humiliate myself just to buy a product?
Just got a Yacht Master 40mm blue dial this week from AD. Was only a 4 week wait. He did say the sprite would take a little longer to get. But he definitely would get it.
Zero purchase history but I did go wearing my 42mm Yacht Master white gold on oyster flex. I did let him know I think the Sub and Daytona look like crap. Zero interest in either of those. Also don’t like the Explorer 2. But I do like the sky dweller a lot.
Total bollocks in my experience
So don't tell them how much I can sell this for on the secondary market?
Utter nonsense. Plumbers and Retail staff get offered Rolex's IME
People coming up with stories are so transparent.
Even if the story is true they can sound made up lol.
Their CRM system decides who gets what and when…
Rolex and their games.. Rolex sure is a good brand, but having to jump through hoops to get one.. Meh.. We are the ones who accept to be a part of it.
Who's 'worse'. Rolex or Ferrari?
@@StreetPreacherr yes
Lol. Boy, I'm really glad I don't like any of Rolex's modern offerings. Haven't since my last new purchase in 2010 and that was one of the few remaining AD stock five digit subs. Actually, I lost interest in 2003 when they dropped the drilled lugs.
I've just bought my third Rolex sports watch and most of what you say is true
U forgot to mention the undertable ‘incentives’ the sales ppl in AD are getting for supplying to the grey market.
For some watch enthusiasts like me, it has come to a point to say Fxxx Rolex, I don’t need to purchase one with so much hassle. Let’s move up higher to a JLC or equivalent.
My family we stay humble and happy with what we are blessed with in life. Yes I love the video and makes perfect sense plus keeps you under the radar for one’s wealth is a personal mental state.
I'd find it easy to buy a Rolex from an AD. The reason for this is I have very narrow tastes in watches. I don't like diver's watches or anything with an engraved or rotating bezel, GMTs, chronographs, anything two tone or made of precious metals and don't like bling - pretty much every Rolex that re-sells at a premium is a watch I have no interest in and wouldn't ever wear.. .
It makes it easy because the only Rolex watches I'd consider wearing are the Air King and the Oyster in plain SS and the ADs know I won't be handing it to a flipper because there's no money to be made in reselling either model. There isn't a waiting list for them either, because the ADs can't make extra profit selling them through the back door so there is no artificial shortage,
I'm still looking at watches and may decide on Air King, but if an AD tries any 'are you a suitable customer for Rolex' or suggests I register on a waiting list I'll burst out laughing and walk out.
Go ahead and be a simp for a brand. I stopped buying Rolexes when they started shorting the supply deliberately.
When I go to the store, I don't dress up. I live so close to the store that it is pretentious to even dress up. I just show up with my normal clothes and they wont sell me anymore.
This looks to apply only to those who can barely afford a Rolex or maybe are a little above that. I would never want to put that much effort and waste time on this. You want my business YOU have to work for it.
Sod Begging an AD shop worker who earns a nice living I'm sure, but has no idea who I am or what I earn or what I do. In the last year I have bought a blue steel skydweller on jubilee for myself, a blue 41mm OP for one of my boys and a black 41mm OP for my other boy. I had a more pleasureable experience buying those on the grey market then from an AD (who I have been to and make me feel like I'm unworthy of their time) - Their loss not mine.
Don't forget the AD not selling you a watch because he's selling it out the back door into the gray market and getting a kickback. Don't tell me it isn't happening.
The look on the face of a watch dealer is priceless, when you pay for your Rolex in full on a basic credit card and it goes through. (Yes, you can boost up your credit limit by depositing funds to the credit card beforehand.)
Is that unusual? My MasterCard limit was just automatically increased incrementally to $25K over the years, and I never actually requested an increase. I figured it was just because I used the card fairly often, but never carried a balance, so they were probably hoping I'd eventually 'splurge' on something that I'd have to start paying interest on... I eventually had to request that they STOP automatically increasing the limit, because 'Credit Checks' actually consider your Income v.s. the POTENTIAL DEBT that you could accrue... So for instance, having a $50K limit can actually be 'detrimental', because it means that at any time you could immediately rack up $50K in debt and not pay it back.
Debt is just crazy when you look into it. It's actually just a COMMODITY, that companies buy and sell just like any other 'investment'! lol Like if you were a 'debt collecting' business, you could probably actually 'purchase' your own debt for significantly less than the 'value'! Because these companies will 'BUY' your debt for 50% of the total amount, and then try to collect the full 100% from you to make their profit!
Bring back the GOLD STANDARD!!! lol
How to buy a Panda Daytona today! Here is a hack for you guys. Walk into any AD, ask to see an exhibition model Daytona and then "accidently" drop it. Make sure the sapphire crystal is broken. They will make you pay for it at retail price for breaking the Daytona. You got yourself a Daytona! send it for a full service and it'll come back brand new.
Bro, if they bring the watch over and the transaction goes through they get their money right away. What do they care how much you earn or what you look like lol. They want to milk more business out of you, simple. So if you’re a big spender, they’ll sell to you. I went to get a JLC and asked for a discount, the sales rep said “we cant give you a discount but we’ll sell you a rolex if you buy the JLC” . I was like “I need one watch” and wished them a nice day
It doesn't make sense. If ADs were so concerned about reselling, they shouldn't be stoking the second-hand market via difficult customer experiences. The second-hand market is purely driven by demand and artificial-short-supply. But perhaps this is the point. Rolex extracts a lot of money from very wealthy people who stock pile unhealthy numbers of unworn and pristine Rolexes in a vault somewhere. When these gluttonous collectors start dumping their loot in the next couple of decades, Rolex will go the way of the Beanie Babies, and we'll start seeing many Stainless Steel samples cluttering the shelves of Goodwill and general thrift stores.
Ces marques réussissent à faire croire que c'est un privilège pour l'acheteur de leur acheter un objet dont le bénéfice net pour l'entreprise est entre 800 et 1000 % !!! Quant à l'AD il prend modestement entre 30 et 40% !
C'est complètement fou...
Et ça marche ! Ces marques font des prodiges en matière de communication permettant par la suite de vendre du rêve autour de leur produits.
Ca marche pour Rolex tout comme Louis Vuitton, Ferrari ou Château Lafite.
It is so sad that people grovel in front of some random jewelry store employee to be allowed to spend thousands of dollars on a product (((
Best way to keep there eyes is having a nice beautiful different watches to prove u got it take and dress nice and talk like u making good money
Haha or I could just walk into an Omega AD and walk out with the watch I want…sans kneeling and kissing the ring…or in this case…Crown. I may even get a little off the principle
Everything you described is exactly what is wrong with Rolex.
I walked into a Rolex AD in the Caribbean and was offered 3 watches. The Daytona steel and gold, the all gold Skydweller and a Explorer 36. This was in mid-June and I was in shorts and a t-shirt just like every other tourist down there. It seems like a lot of Rolex dealers are slowly starting to get inventory back in.
A world coming out of a pandemic..supply will be short.
It's the Grey market that has their concern..why sell a watch to someone who will flip it?
And for those who really want a rolex, the stores will always be there.
I won't do any of that, I'll just keep my money until, in some years, they will give me a truly luxurious service experience. I don t have to prove anything to anybody
12k plus for a ss dj41 fluted jubilee gray market green,blue, Wimbledon dial
no thanks try to get from ad rrp 9300 uk once it hits 10k no thanks its not worth it
Yeah these seven reason do apply to some buyers but there is only one reason why the ADs won't sell you a new high sought after watch. The ADs (not all but most) are the GMDs themselves.
What does GMD mean?
I came to the store when I already had a sumbariner ordered for 10 months with a buyer of my Tudor Pelagos that I sold and the buyer wanted to see if all is ok with the watch. I was taken of the order list right away. Then I had enough and called a friend who is a huge client who can buy the most expensive models and I got the call from AD and a watch in few days. At first I wanted to buy it on my own and wait like normal guy. So buying proces is really sh....
Don’t like to say it but I’d agree with most of what you say I’ve read the comments he’s not talking crap it’s just the way it is I’d rather play the game and save 3 thousand on a watch than pay a grey market dealer over the odds. Having said that I’ve been lucky and I’ve got my watches quicker than I was originally told
why seller need customer profile and that sellers just need money
Your knees got more and more bruised the longer I watched.