Treating Knee Arthritis Without Surgery
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- In this episode of Talking with Docs, join our knowledgeable hosts, orthopedic surgeons with years of experience, as they delve into the pressing topic of knee arthritis and its non-surgical treatment options. Discover the insights they share about managing knee arthritis without resorting to surgery. From innovative therapies to lifestyle adjustments, our experts will guide you through a range of strategies aimed at providing relief and improving your quality of life. Tune in to gain a comprehensive understanding of these approaches and empower yourself with the tools to tackle knee arthritis head-on. Whether you're seeking preventive measures or exploring alternatives to surgery, this episode promises to be a valuable resource for anyone dealing with knee arthritis.
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I’m a retired E. R. Nurse. 73yo. I can’t believe my ears! You guys are awesome!!!!! Arthritic knees, one knee replacement. DO NOT want to replace the other knee. Been vegan 15 years, lost 60 pounds. Training for the Pikes Peak incline trail next year with my grand daughter. Don’t take any prescription meds. Hiking all the time, yoga, free weights. Thrilled to see more doc’s get on board with life style changes for good health. Ice packs, fermented juices with turmeric root ,and using trekking poles are my friend. ❤️ true medicine
That is awesome!!
Another retired ER nurse. 72 years old. For me it's my back and hips. Tai Chi, physical motion, lots of stretching exercises. The hips had to go. Thankfully it was worth replacing them.
Working on the weight.
I have really enjoyed your brief teachings. Your informative and fun! I'm so glad you're doing this!
You are inspirational ❤
Please tell me in short form how to avoid surgery. How did you relieve d excruciating pains? Recently dx with multi joint OA. Started with R knee, then L knee......almost non-ambulatory at a time....I had no knees to weight bear. Worst feelings ever. MRI shows multi joints OA. I am 49yrs old female
@@funmidash3590 Osteo arthritis is cruel. Try cut sugar out of your food you eat. Enjoys variety of healthy foods nuts, fruits/berries, veggies, meat, fish, eggs, grains & try to contol weight, even losing few kilos will help. Mind over matter piwerful be determined to not just sit do nothing all day. It does take effort but will pay off if can walk 20 - 30 mins a day, even eventually twice a day. Start off stretching for few mins before going for exercising. I love going for walks, swimming, bike rides. It is a vicious cycle with OA. Make sure check with GP first. It maybe painful to move, but must as if don't will get worse I'm afraid. Glucosemine with condroitin in tablet/powder form I have found quite good, also magnesium with turmeric. Also be kind to yourself, try to relax & not stress out. Pace yourself. All best 🤗❤
The heating pad and a pillow between my legs sleeping are my new best friends when I am really hurting.
Amen! Now, I know that it's not just me.
THOSE HELP A WHOLE LOT!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I receive injections, want to tell you ….watching the humor between you two is medicine to the soul.
Thanks for your generosity and expert advise!
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How to contact you
Doing public service videos with no sponsors and risking additional business income... And let's not forget the grief you two get for some of the content you produce 🤣. But you two still have your sense of humor intact and keep going. Thank you so much, Docs!
Doing our best 😀
Many people don't listen, especially to the weight loss, just chow food down, I'm picking they still have plenty of work anyway, how many do you see that are overweight and still have crisps, fizzy drinks and doughnuts in their supermarket trolley ,many people will say it tastes nice even though they know it's bad
This information is perfect timing for me,so grateful for coming across the two of you today,Thank YOU very much.
Lots of people start off that way but it never lasts. I'm just speaking in general.
@@TalkingWithDocsBrothers, what is the result? Is there a cure for knee arthritis without surgery? So is there a definitive and permanent cure without surgery?
As a physiotherapist (and owner of Clarkson Sports and Physiotherapy) I am thrilled that you created this video! We always promote active rehab to keep you moving and managing your pain 🎉
You asked what worked for me; stem cells from my hip. It worked for 5.5 years with a PRP injection at 3 1/5 years. That equaled $5.90/day with no insurance, and little risk, no pain of surgery, little risk of infection or blood clots. I was very happy with the results. I've just had the treatment done again at the 5.5-year point as swelling and some discomfort had begun. I could still do lunges and get up from the floor with no support but I did not want to wait to begin treatment until I was in pain again. I also was able to stop taking NSAIDs. If I relate my experience to any physician including my doctor I get absolutely no response.
I really enjoy "Talking with Docs" Exceptionally well done, informative, and fun, thanks!
"@larrypalmer7136" I wished I had known. I already had TKR on my left knee and it is hell. However too, I guess my insurance won't pay for it. Anyone know?
Where did you go to get the stem cells? Did you have cartilage loss in your knees?
@@obscurelyvagueno unfortunately insurance does not cover stem cell treatment for arthritis.
What is a PRP injection?
Solanine is a toxin I and many of my family members are sensitive to. My mother for years had majorly swollen ankles that were purple in color. She had broken one ankle when she was 30, but both were painful. She was talking 36 aspirin a day, walking with a heavy limping gait, and going to bed each night in tears. My mother discovered through a book that some medical issues may be food allergy related. So she went on a two day water fast then started incorporating one food at a time back into her diet per meal and keeping a record. She ate potatoes and then 30 minutes later could not walk. After removing all nightshades from her diet (potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, peppers - and tobacco, but she kept smoking), after a couple month, the swelling had majorly reduced, the color of her ankles improved, she no longer needed aspirin to function, didn't go in bed in pain anymore and walked better than she had for the past 10 years and ditched the cane. The doctor who was suggesting surgery for her ankles scoffed at her able to heal herself through diet change and was angry. But the proof was in the pudding. And now that I have gotten older, the same sensitivity has developed. If I accidentally eat something with green pepper/chili or eggplant, 30 minutes later, my knee starts to hurt - one Filipino restaurant did not list putting eggplant into the stew and only half way through did I realize it had it - and 30 minutes later, the pain hit. Solanine is a toxin that nightshades produce to deter animals from eating the fruit before it is ripe. As the fruit ripens, the solanine levels reduce. The items with the highest solanine levels are tomatoes picked green in the field, potato skins, green peppers, green chilis, & eggplant. Chilis fully ripened on the plant, like red chili pepper have very low solanine levels I can eat items with red chili pepper and feel very little affect at all. Once or twice a year, I will let myself have fries (peeled, no skin!) and my knees that night will be a little stiff, but no pain. But I have adjusted my diet and if I have pizza, it will have a pesto base, or I will have pesto or alfredo on pasta. It's worth it to avoid the pain.
Awesome plus inflammation causing oils
My friend doesn't have arthritis but painful night cramps. He realized that if the doesn't eat gluten he has no cramps.
It's all in your head.
Thank God for this video I had fluids taken from my leg 😢 injection three times with pills and nothing last . I change my diet and do a bit of excerise I don't really get any pain just stiffness in my right knee.
Goji berries are also nightshades.
Great video and information! I tore a meniscus in one knee when I was 58 and was told by my surgeon I would need to have both knees replaced within the next 5 years due to arthritis. Even though I experienced pain daily in both knees and took advilpm every night to sleep I wanted to hold off on surgery and explore alternatives. Long story short, I dropped 30 lbs, started going to the gym to do leg exercises on the machines (nothing heavy duty) just strengthening. I also play pickelball for exercise and I think another big factor is I now take collagen in powder form, 20g, per serving in my coffee twice a day. It took about a year but I no longer have ANY pain in my knees and take no meds at all. I'm now 66 and hopefully kicked that knee surgery can way down the road. I'm hoping my experience may, in some way, help others looking for possible options.
Did you also take glucosamine and chondritin?
@rit20095 No I didn't, but I've heard from others these have helped them.
Glucosamine does not do anything this was reported on the local news also I saw another video in which the physical therapist said it doesn't do anything.@@will8257
During the summer i have very little knee pain, but the winters are rough. Also, shoe and boot choice makes a big difference.
For sure. That's why people move to Florida!
Ha and then get attacked by aligators .... !
@@TalkingWithDocs
I was wondering why it hurt more during the cold ..I thought I stepped wrong or was doing to much on knee
After 20 years in nursing/hospital management I'm making the big jump & retraining as an ANP in Emergency. Paul & Brad your channel offers so much in terms high quality overviews & learning on all the topics you cover... Truly excellent. Thanks.
In Mexico, my wife was prescribed glucosamine and condroitina. It was a pharmaceutical dose and expensive but after 3 months she was pain free.
Did she have knee osteoarthritis?Did she also take collagen with it?
What type of arthritis your wife diagnosed .. .thanks.I have osteoarthritis and I would like to try glucosamine.
@@helendy2743 She has OA. According to her x-rays you would think that she couldn’t walk, ankle, knees, hips, back. But only her knees bothered her. Once your over 50, don’t look for arthritis. You got it for sure.
@@philschiavone101what is the dosage of the prescribed glucosamine/chondroitin?
@@melissathompson7483 I don’t remember exactly but you would need to take bottles of the stuff if bought over the counter. Many grams.
You guys are the experts here, but I’m surprised you missed the top 2 modalities I follow: leg specific weight training, to strengthen quads, hamstrings and glutes, and PRP. This is what my orthopedist recommended and I’m feeling great, 4 months after my first PRP injection for medial osteoarthritis in the right knee. Still not playing tennis but I may try it again with a brace to see how I can tolerate it. Cheers!
I too was amazed they didn't mention prp
Weight training etc..is something the Physical therapy covers
What is PRP people?
1.) Cycling 2.) Cycling 3.) Cycling ..... Start slowly and aim for an hour a day. Cycling stresses the joint very little but movement helps as pointed out in the video. Works for me. Treating Knee Arthritis Without Surgery
Found a great video on how to strengthen cartilage: ruclips.net/video/6PNBjKJ9hxQ/видео.html -- Indeed cyclic low-impact sports for ten to fifteen minutes.
That's exercise. Pick the activity that you enjoy.
Cycling doesn't work for me , kills my knees and hips . So it's different for everyone. And I used to be a very active cyclist
I never felt better than when I was riding my bike I was riding 2 hours a day. Loved it I can't do it anymore because of my eyes but that is the 1 thing I missed
Cycling builds the quad muscles and does not help, you need to use lower gears so you spin along rather than grind along. Do exercises for your glutes and hamstrings to get a balance between front and back of your legs.
Cold water therapy and swimming has helped me with my arthritis.
Placebo effect.
Evidence, @krane15?
I had a complete tear of my ACL 4 years ago. Never got it repaired, but was told I’ll probably have arthritis in my later years. I’ll get a jump start on this! Thanks!
Also Durolane is helping my knee, it lasts about 6 months and I just had my second injection. Avoiding a knee replacement for as long as possible, I really don’t want to have one. Love the content you put out.
I'm so grateful to hear about non-prescription recommendations for possible solutions to medical problems.
As long as your aliment is mild. I'm way past that.
Yes, if we can avoid big pharma through research it would benefit all in the future. Well that and GMO's/vaccines.
Losing 50 lbs has been life changing. Excellent shoes is a must. (Hoka is my top choice these days) Keep moving. Rest is good but over doing the rest is bad.
Same shoes my bone knee Dr recommended and lose 50 lbs!!
But first I have to walk pain free
Finally had to break down and schedule total knee replacement. I’m tired of fighting knee pain and I have tried everything. Thanks docs fir all the great Information you have provided.
1. Keep moving or Modify activities so body does not hurt.
2. Weight loss, lose weight or that heavy backpack
3. Physiotherapy, massage, acupuncture.
4. Braces
5. Avoid inflammatory food, alcohol, sugar, refined grains
6. Over the counter Medication
7. Supplements, tumeric, etc
8. Prescription med
9. Topicals, cbd, etc
10. Injections
Thank you 🙏
11. If you faithfully do all of these therapies with no improvement or worsened symptoms, i.e., see your quad muscle losing size and strength, gaining weight, have difficulty sleeping every night, and the mantra of keep doing the conservative treatment isn’t working, see another doctor. There is such a thing as going too long before getting a replacement.
Thank you.
Thank you! ⭐
@@SpoonfedPig - remember, even placebos can work.
In 2018 I had hip surgery, before and after surgery I kept watching your videos and you two have helped me so much. Thanks for all your dedication to educate us about these issues. 🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
That is so awesome Mona. Glad we could help!
Thanks doctors. I was diagnosed on MRI with "severe shoulder arthritis" a couple of years ago. My orthopedist told me I need two surgeries - one now and a revision in 15 years (I'm 48). I cut all alcohol, all grains, and all the sugar that I could from my diet and it made a huge difference. I can lift weights and play basketball again. I'll still likely need a replacement surgery at some point but that dietary change may allow me to limit it to a single surgery in 10 - 15 years (I'm hoping).
Great work Winston!
You're probably be waiting that long in any case!
WOW! That's impressive- well done you! Good luck for the future.
@@carolinejohn4537thank you!
What is helpful for leg cramps
Thank God for a couple of guys who can make me laugh, yet educate me at the same time!!! I love you! Thank you, Docs! 💙
Thank you SandiRose!
I am in real bad pain always and no pain meds at all I am 68 years old and I'm not going to get the operation I have a enlarged heart ❤️ but I pray every night and every day and thank God for waking me up every day I have tried pain pills before 💊💉🩹🤢 I experienced a whole lot of pain I've been having arthritis since I was young but no change as long as I get to see my grandkids that I adore I am okay with that ❤ much love going your way doctors I love to hear from both of you 🙏❣️ I look forward to your videos 😊🇺🇲✌️💯🤓😎 even though I think about giving up but I don't I was 317 pounds ands I went down to 222 lb on my own and now I weigh😢❤❤
Prp treatment is outstanding‼️you should definitely include it in your recommendations. I’m 79 yrs old….haven’t been able to walk properly for over 10 yrs until now. New lease on life……I’m very grateful !😊
Has your pain gone away totally?
Please elaborate. Sounds interesting.
You forgot: transcutanious electrical nerve stimulation (TENS).
It works wonders on inflamation but of course you cannot attach it to bony areas so not on knees but muscle and tendons.
I've had a torn meniscus in my left knee for some time but have not had much pain from it for a while. I don't even think to use my brace on it anymore when I go out to shop or whatever.
I was given the TENS for my lumbar osteoarthritis and after using it a few times I have very little back pain after I get up in the morning and move around a bit. 😊
In India...this is covered in PHYSICAL THERAPY
Can’t believe nobody sponsors you! You merit it much more than most of these inane influencers! Thank you for all your help!
Sponsorship would lessen their perceived credibility.
I had knee replacement surgery last year on my left knee. I'm happy with the results. My right knee was in similar condition but now feels much better because it's not compensating for the painful left knee. I am doing everything possible to prevent surgery on the right knee including much of what you suggested. Thanks docs
dear how u feel now..ur after knee surgery... I have need to a surgury for lft..knee...where can do...please
I fell a few months ago on absolutely nothing! Hahahaha I was delivering a food order, and I was walking back to my car down the driveway. It was not steep, and I tripped over nothing as I said. Scraped my knee in two spots. I came home put some turmeric on it and a bandage. Healed quickly maybe a few days it was good. Months later my left knee is swollen. I don’t understand. I don’t know why I don’t like it. I ice it I massage it. I elevate it. I really appreciate all the information that you gave on your channel Treating The Arthritis Without Surgery. Your help and knowledge is so much appreciated. You have no idea. You guys are amazing. Thank you again for your help. Peace and blessings to you always❤
Great of you two to revisit this topic!
Also great advice for self help of our tired old arthritic knees!
I had a scope of one knee (somewhere between 1992-2000). I seem to have gotten some relief at the time but it's back to popping, creeking and aching!
I've tried many OTC meds with little relief.
And now the other knee is in the same shape. I despise ice anywhere on my body as therapeutic treatment.
The meniscus is torn on each knee and I have no desire to have surgery. Granted, the first surgery was just a scope but any future surgery would be more intense and invasive.
If you two were my doctors, I probably wouldn't be so hesitant for an evaluation.
But I've had back surgery and then neck surgery within the past 3 years. I'm not in a wheelchair but I use a cane (for balance from back problems).
I'm currently taking an OTC for my back and I think it helps a little for my knees too.
My biggest challenge is going up and down stairs. Going down the stairs actually hurts more.
Once when I was having post-op physical therapy, I was walking to the pool with the physical therapist and he was watching the way I walked. Obviously I walk slow and he made a comment. I told him my walking (and not being able to run) was only detrimental if I was being chased by Godzilla as I was sure to be the first one to get squashed! He actually did a spit-take since he wasn't expecting that answer.😋
So no, I don't worry about running for several reasons. And walking with a cane somewhat henders any chance of running. If Godzilla were to arrive in Texas, considering how slow I walk, a whole lot of people would be able to get ahead by the time Godzilla reached me.
I'm familiar with food that aggravates arthritis and try wholeheartedly to avoid it because I can actually tell a difference when I eat it.
My PCP has me tested regularly for any damage to any organs because of certain medications.
I'm retired now and don't feel the need to speed up my walking (unless you know who shows up). If my knees start hurting, I'll sit and rest a while.
I truly appreciate your information and frequent reminders for taking care of our bodies! I do what I can to keep moving and take care of myself, eat responsibly, avoid alcohol, etc etc but I'm not Forrest Gump so I won't be running across the states!😂
11 years!?! I've only known about the past 8. You've caught on because of your great information and wonderful sense of humor!👍
Thanks for sharing another great video!😁
Names of prescription NSAIDS please.I'm taking Celebrex,but it makes me itch.
I take the generic Celebrex. Happy that I have no side effects. On bad days I boost with a couple arthritis formula acetaminophen.
@@elainekoester3340😅
I developed severe arthritis in my left knee following a meniscus tear. Doctor did a steroid injection, which didn't help my arthritis but my lymphedema flaired. I was to the point I could barely walk. I decided to try supplements with chondroitin, glucosamine, MSM, collagen, and hyaluronic acid. Most days I'm pain free or nearly. I was already on a prescription NSAID for other arthritis. Placebo effect or not, I'm just happy to be able to walk!
My knees kill me all the time thank you for posting this
Very welcome
You guys are great, I have gotten so much good information out of the videos you share with us. Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for your time, your humor and no BS much appreciated. 🌿
My husband had a knee replacement last fall. What did not become evident even with all the preliminary tests and prep was that he had a blocked femoral artery. He had excellent peripheral circulation until the surgery which caused swelling blocking blood flow to the lower leg and foot. This caused anterior compartment compression syndrome. The anterior of his lower leg had terrible pain. Finally huge blisters erupted then a massive wound opened with much necrosis. He needed a total of six surgeries, two vascular surgeries, and several debridments. Finally he had a graft surgery which is now healing in. He wore a wound pump for weeks and we did long periods of dressing changes. He will have foot drop and will need a special orthotic. This was a highly unusual situation, but was awful. Joy
Strengthening hamstrings and glute muscles are very helpful to improve your activities regarding O.A. Pain.
I think you mean quads.
Strengthening muscles of the knee and hip are equally important
Thank you so much nerudo rwakadai chokwadi mhuri ye Zimbabwe mwari vavedzere hupenyu hwenyu 🙏🙏🙏
Welcome
5:38 One more...add it to the exercise section. The GLAD program now offered through Bone and Joint Canada gave me my life back. My knee felt like it had totally given out. I had sudden bouts of massive pain when I was out walking and gas trouble getting home. I completed the GLAD program and have built some of the exercises into my daily routine. I am 80 and now walk 2-3 hours a day on hilly terrain, garden, and generally goof around with seldom any pain at all.
What's GLAD Program?
Thank you so much I'm in Puerto Rico and we just don't have so many of you here I'm thankful God bless you both
You two are my favorite Docs! Except for my PCP - Dr. Roney. He has a sense of humor I love while giving me very valuable information too.😊
These guys are the best educators, always good information delightfully presented.... thank you
Thank you Steven. Doing our best
Please do an episode on both PRP and Stem Cell injections for helping arthritis and perhaps at least delay if not avoid surgery, joint replacement, etc. Thank you.
I had stem cell done 5yrs ago...best thing ever!! but now it wore off and can't afford to do it again so I am looking into the next best thing...PRP....Would be nice if they would do a video on both.
@@torp42 PRP helped short term.
@@CynthiaAva how long is short term?
68 years old here. I played basketball until I was 62. My knees hurt most of my adult life. But they felt the best the day after I played. I am also a widebody. I just recently completed a 3 injection over three weeks course of hyaluronic acid shots to the knees. My doctor said I was an ideal candidate because my cartilage isn't completely gone. So far, my knees feel the best they have for years. I walk three miles a day 20 out of 21 days on average but used to run a lot. My doctor said he recommended not running any more but about a week ago I jogged about 50 yards of each lap for 4 laps. Finished the mile in a little over 16 minutes. My knees have still felt good for the week since then. It is hard to resist running again.
Great advice. Thanks. I'm going to have my new knee checked out because after almost 3 years, it is like there is shrink wrap in there and a clicking noise. I do use cold wraps, but none of the other stuff. You guys are great!!! 👍🙋♀️
You guys are amazing and I am very grateful to you I just had lateral and medial repair surgery on my knee, I went in completely blind, my surgeon said I would be back riding my bike in 2 weeks. I am 69 and still in pain. I am an ultrarunner running 100 miles races and so not a sedentary person at all. The thing I was most upset about was I was never told to get PT, my surgeon didn't recommend it or set it up and so after 4 weeks I paid out of pocket until my insurance kicked in. By this time my scar tissue seemed to be frozen and it was a terribly painful procedure to start PT. I am now about 15 weeks into healing and am still in pain and have a very stiff knee. I am back out running but not sure whether I will ever be the same. I am just terribly disappointed with the after care procedure and I know you say you are in charge of your own healing but what if you don't really know never having been injured before. I was never told by my surgeon what I would need to make sure I did. Thank you again.
Thanks! Keep moving is #1. Naproxen and topical lidocaine have gotten me through 5+ years.
I have a couple of gel packs I use instead of ice, just throw them in the freezer and then I put them on when I go to bed at night I just put a thin cloth between them and my knee and let them stay there while I fall asleep. It's made a huge difference
Gel pack/ice same thing ...and great for pain management..but beware ice burns
Great video. I'm south of your border by a little bit. 3+ arthritis in one knee with virtually no cartilage left and the lateral meniscus is completely detached. Also had a tibial plateau fracture in that knee in 2012. Have been using orthotics for almost 20 years and they definitely helped. Then I retired and decided to ski 100 days in the 21/22 ski season. Am on my 3rd 6-month injection of MonoVisc (hyaluronic acid) in conjunction with an unloader brace and I have no pain. The brace is a bit of a PITA but it's improved my life so I am religious about using it. BTW I'm 6', 180 lbs so I feel like my weight is about right. Cutting way back on beer consumption also helped.
Love you guys. I said a long time ago that I would post how you saved my knee replacement. I got it 8 months ago. It seems the surgeon was good and surgery was without problem. The follow up however, was terrible. When I went home from the hospital they hadn't arranged the home therapy and it was more than a week after before it started. Luckily, you had a video with a therapist showing the exercises to do after knee replacement and I followed that on my own. In the early weeks you answered some of my questions here in the comments faster than I could get a response from the doctors office where I had the surgery done. I live in the US where we think we have the best medical in the world.I'm not so sure about that. Otherwise at 8 months I'm doing pretty well. walk without a limp now, knee doesn't bend as far as originally, so I have to open the car door all the way to get out. Other knee is starting to flare up, Xrays said both knees are bone on bone . I just had injection of gel and cortisone. Than you
I am 64 and cannot walk anymore without some pain in both knees. This is ridiculous. I have had both knees X-rayed and there appears to be some cartilage degeneration in the middle of my knees. I've had two steroid injections in both knees so far that have helped, thankfully. I would love to hear more from doctors about other kinds of injections such as PRP to help an arthritis sufferer avoid surgery.
I had a right total knee replacement on Dec 19 and was well prepared because I watched many of your videos , very informative and to the point. You guys are great❤
Great to hear!
Thank you for your vital advice, i will do that starting today. God bless yo
Best of luck!
You two are the best and hilarious! Just subscribed. These are the same tips I tell my massage clients and so excited to share this video with them.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP 😊❤
Hey Docs I'm almost three years out with my new knee and still loving it. This video is so true please listen to them.
How was the surgery?
Going for shock wave therapy this week to try to get rid of my knee pain. So will see if it works. Have a friend that one treatment worked and not more pain. Will give it a chance and see
Did it work?
The one thing that has helped my severe knee arthritis most is topical diclofenac. I was skeptical when it was prescribed -- said to myself, with a sneer, "that's joint cream". But since I could walk maybe a block before howling in pain, I was willing to try it. The effect was clear within two weeks. It is over the counter in many countries, including, now, the US, but if you can get a generic by prescription, the copay will likely be less than the over the counter price.
How many times a day do you apply the diclofenac cream? Does the effect last long?
Thank you both I suffer with knee pains for years. I notice when I keep mobile help the painful knees. May God bless you and the work you are7 doing
Bilateral stage 4 OA. I use turmeric 3000mg/ day, kinesiology tape, monovisc injections every 6 months, ASA as needed and ice . Works great. Can’t play tennis but ok with ADLs.
Having seen the original post, this one is even better! Lots of good suggestions here, folks. Even if you end up in surgery, many of these will help postpone that option. However, nothing has been as good as my new knees, just saying for me.
Thanks so much Barbara
The most comprehensive explanation I saw. Thanks a lot.
Great stuff!! I've been trying 16-8 intermittent fasting to lose weight the past few months. Losing weight has helped a LOT!!
It helps. Both ways ...
Weight loss and the reduction of inflammatory foods ...
Try to cut out all white /processed foods...it will help
Thank you. I have arthritic knees but I am working on them with physio and food.
You got this!
I’m almost 67, female, I feel great, no pain, I walk everyday and walk backwards sometimes. People think maybe I’m crazy, but it helps. I stay away from medication and doctors (sorry, no offense).
But someone with medical experience told you to walk backwards with success
@@Mastermindyoung14 ….and ?
I’ve tried it all. Still have pain. Feels like a horrible toothache
Thanks so much for sharing your expertise. You guys are awesome.
Our pleasure!
I have arthritis in one knee caused by showing off when I was in my 20s. I am now in my 50s, and a hyaluronic acid injection performed 7 years ago has provided 98% relief.
Who does the HA injections... regular doctor, orthopedic doctor, pain management doctor?
@@dabear2438 It was an orthopedic doctor
@@Bon3fish Much thanks for your reply. I'd rather use HA than other meds/chemicals.
@@Bon3fish Do you have full range of motion, did you change your diet, and how long does it last?
I have arthritis in one knee, caused I believe sitting on than leg at work for 20 years. Don’t do it!
God bless you docs for the excellent video you made gives a positive note on knee replacement therapy
I am so frightened to undergo as i am na bilateral bronchitis patient. I am worried of thester complications during surgery.
Great advice docs. I love your videos.
I’ve had knee arthritis for 5 years now. Doctor said it was going to get worse as time goes on. I’m now 60 years and I lost weight and try to eat more vegetables. So far so good.
I notice if I have my veggie juice, made of kale , water & chia seeds , it won’t hurt at night. Just sharing😀
knees over toes protocol helps me
Very nice
Thanks for the info. I’ve had some relief with NSAIDs, weight loss, and regular exercise. Now going to search for your video on anti-inflammatory foods. I found the one on BP lowering foods very helpful.
It's actually great to hear surgeons talk about these treatments that do work and surgery sometimes is not the answer
While not knee related, my hip has gone to God, I have tried pretty much all of the above, waiting for a new one (on the public system February 24) will be three years, currently surviving on Endone!! can't have cortisone or they won't do the surgery.
Hang in there!
Two years ago an MRI showed significant patellofemoral (kneecap) osteoarthritis which caused mild pain and loud clicking etc.
The physio prescribed a few exercises eg squats, leg extensions and my knee has been great ever since! I would never have believed it. More generally, I do have OA in other joints that causes no issues at all because overall I'm healthy and active. So, I can concur with your awesome video and hope others follow the same path with success👌
@skygblue6250 I use a 20inch box and a split stance. But I have a deeper genetic problem otherwise I'd just do straight squats. That's what my physio is saying. Don't worry about the OA, just do the movement regardless 👌👍
Would you discuss PRP & stem cell treatment for arthritic knees please?
The demonstration at 1:11 is excellent! This video explains everything so clearly and provides valuable insights. Thank you
Love you guys! Seriously no sponsors?? I’m in PT for low back pain and new sciatic nerve pain. My PT showed me how strengthening glutes and core will absolutely help knee pain. It does!
Yes all of that stuff helps so much. And yes no sponsors 😀
Docs, my arthritic knees and I thank you.
Caveat... Just had a TKA of my R knee. But, your video reminded me of the many things that gave me relief from my arthritis. Sometimes I'd wake up in the middle of the night with my aching knee and once I put on my brace, I was able to get back to sleep. My doc recommended a longer acting steroid (Zilretta): for the first 8 weeks it was amazing. The pain was gone. But, week 9 I was feeling some strong side effects. So, I knew that wouldn't work for me. There is a definite loss felt. I know I can't garden like I used to.. On my knees with hands in the dirt. So, I plant in planters each summer and have my husband put in a new perennial once in awhile. Soon I will be walking without pain!
That's for the video and thanks for dressing the part. It matters.
I couldn't help notice there was no mention of aspirin, since that the only OTC that gives me any true pain relief.
Love your videos! Many thanks. I have had great relief for almost a year from knee ablations (both knees). Could you do a video on those, please?
I remember reading about a placebo used in an experiment. When pt was told she requested the placebo, because for her it had worked. Placebo effect can work.
Been having knee trouble for more than half my life.
In both knees, but the right is worse.
Combination of family history of knee issues/arthritis, and a few injuries to Mr right knee (hence why it is worse).
Haven't had imaging done in years though.
Years ago was originally diagnosed with patellofemeral disorder (but i suspect now years later that arthritis is setting in).
I get flares occasionally.
And I use a knee brace when it is flared.
Have done a couple rounds of pt in the past.
Recently it has been flared, and a couple weeks ago it gave out on me while at work.
So am now doing a third round of pt again.
Just started it a couple days ago.
So will see how it goes.
Hi. Love your videos. I'm an RN and avid hiker. After two lateral meniscus tears (same knee) and clean up surgeries, I have bone on bone arthritis pain in that knee. I'll avoid replacement at all cost as I've seen that it doesn't always provide the relief people expect. Plus there are always risks with surgery. For me corticosteroid injections, Voltaren, acupuncture, and heat (not ice) seem to work best. Keep up the great work!
I'm using castor oil, tea tree oil and a whole lot of prayers. I don't want the surgery but if the pain gets as bad as it originally did in Nov. 22 I feel I have no choice. I'll try any suggestions with my Dr approval
Thank you Doctors! For your valuable health information! You guys Rock! God Bless you both 🙏.
these guys are the best! i try to do a lot of what is on your list.. .but at some point, when my knee was bone on bone, surgery was the best option. so now i have one total knee replacement and the other that is hanging in there for now... :)
Yay pecan the cat!
❤thank you for your awesome content; full of sommuch expertise! And the beat is that its served with soooooo much humour and no sponsors! I wish you long life! Keep teaching us.
PRP/nSTRIDE seems to work for me. It last about a year on 1 knee and 3 + years on the other arthritic knee.
Thank you for your advice. My knee pain is agonizing at times so will certainly follow your recommendations to ease it.
Docs, how about the option of PRP treatment for cartilage regeneration? 🤔😉
So the evidence is pretty weak thus far
Stem cell?
You two doctors are absolutely awesome.. thank you for taking time out of your professional practice to help so many.
Hi Docs.. great video again. I use an ice machine instead of ice packs. Great results.!
Yes beauty
What is an ice machine?
I use a brace I bought from Amazon. I sometimes use diclofenac
I have a lot of respect for you guys. Great topic again and lots of good info.
Can you talk about Kefir milk…as a video with other foods like yogurt, kombucha, etc. there’s a lot of confusing information out there. Should I be drinking it?
I broke my knee May 26h and the bone had grown back by June 21st and by August 1i was back to yoga. I used red light and I am 62
Wow amazing
What type red light? At home?
I alternated between ice and the dpl IIa Blue & Red Light Therapy device. It was 20 min of each about 5 times a day, That and I kept on the ibuprofen as well. Consistent use over 4 days, then the swelling and pain had decreased so I continued but at 3 times per day.@@daynasmith4059
1. Mobility… keep moving
2. Weight loss
3. Physical therapy
4. Braces
5. Avoid inflammatory foods alcohol , sugar , processed food …etc
6. Avoid over the counter meds due to side effect -Tylenol
7. Use msn , glucosamine, turmeric, chondroitin.
9. RX if needed
10. Typical
11. Injection
12. Copper , red light therapy
13. Use ice
Thank you
Very helpful. #10 is a typo for "topicals".
I don’t think they were saying to avoid over the counter Meds, just to be cautious not to over use due to potential side effects
You are excellent thank you Mrs. Bernard
Thanks MrsB. I didn't quite understand the OTC part; are we supposed take Tylenol and Advil but be careful or not to take at all? I wish they had named some prescription anti inflammatory meds that don't have the same risk factors. I got a diagnosis of severe arthritis in both knees ( I built up from mild, moderate then severe) about 7 yrs ago. I know I'm bone on bone now. I am taking a long acting opioid that is useless. So I'm left taking Tylenol and Advil 3 times a day but it worries me to take that much. I started taking it once a day, then twice, and it's only been 2 weeks since I went on 3 x daily. Do I need to worry? Does anyone have other suggestions other than the Tylenol/Advil combo? Naproxen doesn't seem to help me.
Like ur sugestions! I suffer with bone on bone Arthritis 😢
I really love your channel and the solid advice you are giving out. I am 73 years old and do not drink smoke or take drugs. The results are so far zero aches pains and I walk a lot...learned to do this after living in the Mediterranean for years. Regarding diet..yes I could lose 25 lbs. And am working on it.
So many of my friends are suffering and having these operations and in many cases I think it's alcohol related. A couple of drinks during the week no problem but a few drinks every night is way too much.
I agree with you about surgery...stay away and use natural ways of healing. ICE is a miracle worker!!
In my family!y it does not matter what we do we have a genetic problem regarding Diabetes 2 and all of us have it and do our best to work with it. So far AOK. All the advice you just gave on this Video is for diabetics too.
Thanks so much for sharing!
appreciate your work, thank you
Welcome!
You have no sponsors because you two are good doctors, the kind that pharmaceutical companies don't want. Keep the good work guys 👍
Thanks docs - I know for me a Turmeric/Ginger/Pepper supplement and new shoes have done amazing things. It took a while for the Turmeric to kick in -- around two weeks. The new shoes were just me being cheap and not realizing that my soles had worn down weird.