I had 3 tears and 2 surgeries in my left knee, when the weather would start to change it would ache like a bad toothe ache, I started fasting, lost 46 lbs. pounds, cut sugar and ate clean foods. I am 56 and my knee feels better now than ever! When you fast 21-24 hours you are at max stem cell production, then I sat on a bench with an ankle weight 5lbs. and got the stem cell rich blood into the knee by gently extending the leg away from bench and back to rest. I am currently pain free 7 years this October.
Were the cracks glued or sewn with fibrin glue? Suturing does not help much or can tear again if the tear is in the white = not perfused zone of the meniscus
I started swimming because I couldn’t tolerate walking or even laying or sitting too long. I joined a gym on a huge leap of faith, being as I could barely even walk, to use the pool facilities. Being in the water took all the weight off my hip joints. Holding on to a float and just moving my feet back and forth to do a couple laps was uncomfortable. But the more I went the more I loosened up. My range of motion has increased and I can sleep through the night without readjusting. This inspired me to eat better. 2 meals a day. Meat and veggies- no junk. After 3 months I’ve tapered off pain pills and I feel 20 years younger. Don’t give up! My theory is your body waste away if you don’t use it. I don’t know the science of it but I know there is hope. Keep moving!! Water helps!
Try to do a serious parasite cleansing then go for 3 to 7 days fasting. No sugar,carbs, starch.Eat porc/beef and vegetables. It worked for my hip arthritis ...
@@TalkingWithDocsDear doctors, I have the beginning of arthritis in my knee and chondromalacia patella grade 2. Is it harmful to pray? Will it cause more harm?
I find that moving every day, jogging or walking keeps my knees moving with less aches and pains. But what has helped the most is strength training all the muscles in my legs to keep them strong and capable. Great video 😊
I ran 36,000 miles, six nine-minute hilly miles along with 16 miles biking and 1½ hours of yoga daily at age 61. I now have bilateral osteoarthritis and have used a rollator for the past eight years.
Same for me. 2 times per week strength training and I won't have knee pain for at least 2 weeks. Jogging is also good, but a bit less powerful. I walk a lot, and it seems walking is not enough. I am 52
My wife has osteoarthritis in her hips. At age 77, she has had this problem for about a dozen years. It progressed to the point where she asked to be placed on a wait list for hip replacement surgery. It was getting so painful she stopped hiking and cycling, and sleeping was difficult. Meanwhile........we're both avid gardeners and grow almost everything we eat. We started eating a more vegetarian diet simply because we had the vegetables. And cruciferous vegetables topped the list because we like them: broccoli, cabbage, bok choi etc. Meat and dairy became just an occasional treat. Slowly, slowly, over a period of months and years, her symptoms subsided. We got back into hiking and cycling, her sleep improved and she had herself removed from that wait list. Her doctor told her that improvement isn't possible, yet here we are. She has been advised to keep doing whatever it is that she's doing! This was a purely accidental, lucky discovery for us. Will adopting a mainly plant-based diet heavy on the cabbage help you? Maybe. And maybe not. I do encourage you to try it, though. You have nothing to lose. And be patient: don't expect overnight results.
When I first developed a little osteoarthritis in my knees and hips I was told that the important things to do was keep the joints moving - this would slow progression. So I try to walk several miles per week. Decades later, so far so good. Have a little more pain, but nowhere near to needing replacements. The theory I heard was that using the joint compresses and releases the cartilage, pumping nutrients into it. No idea if there's anything to the theory, but mild exercise seems to have worked well for me.
I had a severe cartilage injury to my knee, x-rays showed some osteoarthritis also. Doc recommended Glucosamine with Chondroitin. Within 2-3 weeks pain was gone (after 4 years of limping)! Changed my diet, dropped sugar, carbs and processed foods completely. I feel better than when I was in my twenties, and I’m in my sixties!
@@butreally289Congratulations on your progress. I just had an initial arthritis diagnosis and wondered how much condroiten/msm worked for you. It sounds like reducing inflammation with supplements and changes in diet has helped w pain symptoms. In the video they mention supplements and diet may reduce pain symptoms. I am going to give this a try along w strengthening muscles and tendons around the joint once the pain reduces. I am almost 60
congrats, it does work for some people, it worked for me. It depends on how much damage. If it doesn't work in a week or two, it probably is not going to help.@@butreally289
80’s kid here, roller skating, aerobics, weights, Tae Bo, light running, yo yo dieting. Years and years of grinding and cracking when bending the knee. Finally an official meniscus tear. Had surgery to smooth it out and was doing good, near the end of recovery that foot slipped forward while walking and something hurt. Dr wouldn’t hear of it and said it’s just still healing. That was 2019 I still have swelling at the surgery entry points and random swelling of the whole knee. Basic Dr. mentioned compression socks might help out since they help push more circulation up to that area. WELL, that was the best advice I had ever gotten. In the meantime, I guess I’m “still healing” sometime the “best” ortho doc in the area can still be jerks
I had mentioned earlier that exercise bike riding is great for knee arthritis. It's also great for meniscus tears. For my first tear I had surgery. For my second, I had PT. That was better than anything the orthopedist could have offered. I have an ache once in a while, but basically, I'm a changed woman.
I am an avid tennis player (club champion, play in national tournaments) in my late 60’s and developed significant knee pain - it even hurt while sitting for prolonged periods. I had to use knee braces to be able to play. I started taking a glucosamine/chondroiton supplement and collagen peptides EVERY day for a year and my knee pain is 95% resolved. I can now play tennis 10-15 hours per week without a brace. I realize that this is anecdotal and I have not had any imaging to evaluate my cartilage. That all said, I believe this regiment of exercise and supplements is very low risk with modest cost and worth considering if you have mild to moderate arthritis causing knee pain.
@Mariehart4294 "glucosamine/chondroiton supplement and collagen peptides EVERY day" Marie, can you tell me what brands you bought? I'm trying to help my husband out with his knee pain.
@@LisaMurphyGreat Lakes, Vital Proteins gelatine powders are really effective at significantly reducing joint pain. Also, we recently started our dog on a cheap glucosamine/chondroitin supplement from the supermarket and it’s stopped his post walk stiffness
I am in a very similar situation to you. I am early 70's, former amateur USTA player back in the 80's, now basically pretty healthy but with knee pain from damaged cartilage. I am not severe, but my meniscus on both knees has spot tears. Unfortunately in 2020 i had a bad slip on ice and tore my quad tendon off my left knee cap which required surgical repair, so that knee has permanent soreness. But, as you say, mobility is key to reducing stiffness. I too have been on a daily regimen of a product from Solgar supplying glucosamine chondroitin and MSM in clinically-specified ratios, as well as a daily dose of Collagen Peptide in water. I have been doing this for about a year, and i have to say, i have experienced significant improvement in mobility and reduced pain. For me, the number one yard stick for measuring pain is going down stairs. To the degree i can traverse flights of stairs with less pain means i can go on a run successfully. I am preparing to return to the tennis court after decades away from the sport .... wish me luck! It'll be hard not to push myself too far, as i was fast and agile back in the day and hopefully i can resist trying to replicate my youthful performance which definitely will not be available to that degree. Thanks for your post !
I worked for a supplement company and most of our clients were old people with arthritis who could not stop but sing the praises of the product they bought from us : a powder of hydrolysed collagen. These people told me first-hand that they couldn’t climb up stairs before taking that powder and now were moving freely and painlessly. I’m not a doctor but there are definitely supplements which work, sorry !
My protocol, vitamin K2 regularly +D3, combined with regular collagen peptides, combined with DIY traction brace when sleeping, combined with red light panel therapy. In six months, amazing results.
@@Shapeshifter7777DIY is do it yourself, but there are a few traction/decompression knee braces on the market. they are knee braces that stretches or pulls your lower leg from your upper leg. basically stretching your knee. I did this and still occassionally do while sleeping so cartilage can regrow and fill out a "stretched" knee if there is an abundance of collagen type amino acids in your system. the red light exposure in the meantime increases the Power of your cells mitochondria making cells grow faster.
I have been making gelatin broth for over ten years. I have a horrible knee problem thanks to a needless surgery I had which I found out later is a horrible surgery that many orthos would never do and is simply a moneymaker. Medical doctors are beyond greeedy and distrusted by a growing number of population. They no longer get that respect and admiration they once did when I was growing up. With that surgery, that doctor took my knee pain from a 3 or 4 to a 7 or 8. I'm 51 and had a recent mri so check up on that area where they butchered my knee by taking out too much cartilage and the radiologist said my knee looks like a teenager's and actually pulled up a teenage girl's mri to show me. I told him I took the gelatin broth and he said he was very interested in learning more. I also give it to my 15 year old cat. She was sick one week with constipation/kidney stuff as is common in her breed and I took her to two different vets. Both vets reacted strongly to her body by saying she looked incredible for her age. I told one vet about the broth and he wanted to pay me to make it for him and I have that email as proof.. So that is two separately verified analysis by medical professionals that are impressed by gelatin. It must have replenished my cartilage on some level because I started the broth at around 40. I didn't maintain my teenage cartilage. The reality is big pharma won't fund a million dollar double blind study on gelatin broth, which is the only thing that puts it on the radar of doctors such as these..
Im really interested, could you post a link to the recipe or maybe mention it here? Ive never heard of Gelatin Broth. I used to make chicken bone broth, is that what you're talking about? Thanks!
Brad & Paul, thank you for spending your time to help everyone understand how to take charge of there own health. The service you provide to the public is truly a selfless act.
Its not true, if our cartilage didn't grow back, it would wear out over time and everyone would have arthritis. I had arthritis in my hands about 10 years back, I started eating more meat and animal fat and low carb/sugar and now its gone.
Everyone should try this at least once...its easy and there's no downside. In the shower, blast hot water at your knee for one minute, then instantly blast it with cold water for a minute. I usually get several hours of pain relief when I do this. I've been playing tennis (singles) for 50 years and have no cartilage left, but this still helps alot.
I have just intuitively been trying this a few times the last month as well as having the opportunity to cold plunge skiing up in Breckenridge and it feels like once again it is helping the flow of fluid and nutrients in the area so reducing swelling and increasing range of motion so helping with healing. Also the numbing effect of the cold takes away any burning, itching, stiff feelings that even if minor linger.
In the winter, my arthritis is very intense. I take Meloxicam and Tylenol as needed but what really works is CBD salve. It is instant relief, especially at night if it’s particularly painful. I got my 80 year old mom some too and she is over the moon for it.
Agreed. CBD works really well for me. I’ve tried many but CBD Clinic Maximum Strength is the best. Www.massagewarehouse.com is the one place to buy it online.
One Jan a couple of years ago I woke up with an intense pain in my right knee. It got worse over the following week to the point where I found it difficult to sleep and even walking up stairs. Went to the doctor and said it was arthritis. Had an x-ray done was confirmed as arthritis. I knew this already because ten years earlier i had arthroscopic surgery for tidying up my cartilage. I was was told that there was the beginning of arthritis. Some discomfort but manageable. This time it was uncomfortable. Doctor prescribed Celebrex. Kinda worked but it's not recommended to take it for long time. Besides some of the disclosed side effects were relevant to my age -75. Two years earlier i made a tincture of frankincense because it was effective for minor aches. It was widely known as an anti- inflammatory. I upped the dosage and within a week noticed a noticeable improvement. In the first month i would take it three times a day especially before bed. A typical dose was 4-5 ml in a glass of water 3 or 4 times a day. I take it once a day now. Sometimes not at all. I have absolutely no discomfort now. I did Amazon flex for 10 months with no pain. For me it was like a miracle. To make the tincture of frankincense i use a 5 to 1 ratio. One Cup frankincense five cups over proof vodka. Freeze the frankincense first and then grind it an coffee grinder then add to 1.9 li mason jar with top on. Stir daily. I put the jar on top of the hot water tank. Ready to use 1-3 months. The longer the better. There are different types of frankincense you can use. I buy it on Amazon. Pretty cheap. Besides anti-inflammatory it's useful for your gut and seems to regulate your blood sugar levels.
Dr Wallace a veterinarian rebuilt knee cartilage of a NBA player who was about to retire early because of his knee cartilage. He used liquefied chicken bone cartilage and the players wife said that it added several more years to the players career and a few million $’s for them. Harvard Med heard about it and made a challenge believing it wouldn’t work. It worked ! Myself I had a shattered tibial head rebuilt at and was told eventually I would need a new knee replacement. I drink bone broth every morning after my decaf coffee. 0:02
Thank you for this tip. I will try it out. I have inflammatory osteoarthritis of the finger joints and it's getting worse. I've been trying supplements and Castor oil for the past month, but no improvement at all, in fact they are getting worse. Bone broth interests me. Can it be either beef or chicken bone broth?
@@renita9424 I use both hydrolyzed beef and chicken it comes down to the taste. One brand has no taste of you don’t like either. It’s also good for the skin and hair.
Thanks for sharing What do you mean by saying it worked for you though? Do you do sports/lifting? If so, have you been able to push your body without previous joint limitations or youre relieved of day to day pain?
Very good talk today. I had bilateral knee replacement 9 years ago after trying everything else. The surgery was a great success and has improved my quality of life 100% . I am very careful to not impact my knees and damage the plastic between the implants. My shoulders are now a problem but at 83 I am not sure that I can get them fixed.
I also have been taking glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM since 1998 ! At that time I was 46 and suffering with pain and stiffness in my right hip, my family doctor ordered a X-ray and found that I had moderate to severe joint degeneration in my hip. He suggested that I could try glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM. I also would see Chiropractors for neck & hip adjustments. After about 3 weeks I could feel my mobility had improved as well much less pain . Not only did I get improvement in my hip but also my neck issues disappeared. I think that the benefit is from the synovial fluid being supported in some way to provide lubrication in the joint .. Just to mention that Veterinarians also prescribe glucosamine and chondroitin to horses & dogs that have mobility problems where noticeable improvement is seen ! One more thing that I think needs to be said is that glucosamine and chondroitin won't work if your joint is bone to bone!
Same with me. I take the glucosamine and I also take Piascladine. The two helped with my severe pain and I can go another year before my knee replacement!
The last time I saw the orthopaedic surgeon (sadly he's since died from an early heart attack) his advice was avoid further surgery. Lose weight, exercise (not running). Done that and the knee problems that plagued me before an arthroscopy 30+ years and then returned 10 years ago have reduced to insignificant.
I had knee pain and low back pain when I started hormone replacement therapy aches stopped . Well my quality of life is much better now and not having any pain that’s amazing!!
@@Rub3nAlexander no actually for many other symptoms. I noticed the pain went away after 1 month on Hrt that was 2.5 years ago. In my case HRT helped a lot but not all cases are related to hormones imbalance.
Hi, there! My experience with PRP for osteoarthritis in my knees, somehow contradicts your statement that only treats the symptoms. In 2 years of twice a year PRP, the disease has not evolved! It was proven by IRM before and after. The PRP procedure also had an effect not only in stopping the degeneration of my knees cartilage (missing most of it)- but also there were no symptoms for more than 3 years after. Thank you for sharing your insights with us!
@@ospringate Platelet-Rich-Plasma Injection -or Vampire method. To create platelet-rich plasma, clinicians take a blood sample from the patient and place it into a device called a centrifuge that rapidly spins the sample, separating out the other components of the blood from the platelets and concentrating them within the plasma. Plasma mixed with Hyaluronic Acid will be injected in the places in need. My knees in that case.
PRP stands for Platelet-Rich Plasma, a treatment derived from your own blood to promote healing and tissue regeneration. It is widely used in medical and aesthetic practices, including: 1. Orthopedics: For healing injuries like tendonitis, ligament tears, and arthritis. 2. Dermatology: To stimulate hair growth in cases of hair thinning or alopecia. 3. Aesthetics: For skin rejuvenation, reducing wrinkles, and improving skin texture (commonly known as the "vampire facial"). 4. Sports Medicine: To speed up recovery from sports injuries. 5. Dental Procedures: To promote healing after surgeries like tooth extractions or implants. How PRP Works: Blood Draw: A small amount of your blood is drawn. Centrifugation: The blood is spun in a centrifuge to separate platelets from other components. Injection: The concentrated platelets are injected into the target area, where they release growth factors to accelerate healing and tissue repair.
About 6 years ago (2019) at 59, I had stem cell treatment on my left knee. In my 20's had my left meniscus removed due to injury. I continued a very active lifestyle and always played lots of sport until my 50's when my knee was giving me too much trouble, with almost bone on bone situation. I was headed toward a knee replacement which would have curtailed any future sport like skiing, so I opted for stem cell treatment. I now have about 3mm of cartilige on the ends of my bones, no pain and what I consider to be 95% success. I don't run anymore, but everything else is fine. I thoroughly recommend stem cell treatment, however I understand if you are over 60 the likleyhood of success starts to diminish.
This was good. I had a torn meniscus in my right knee and arthritis in my right shoulder. My orthopedic surgeon (sports medicine specialist) said that I have 3 options. PT, steroid injections (only temporary relief), and then surgery. I opted for #1. My knee is back to 95%, my shoulder is about 50%. I exercise both regularly - like daily - and this provides me with pretty good relief for now. In a way, I've learned to live with it.
I think I'm going through this now, been 5 weeks , still limping a little bit, scared to go to Dr to see what I have done to my knee. Any advice on PT ?
You didn't ask me but for what it's worth, don't be afraid to go to the doctor. If you have done something to your knee your body is trying to fix it itself, with or without a doc. It is remodeling the area. You will want to influence the remodeling rather than trying to fix a bigger mess.Go to the doctor to find out the problem. If you get PT, work it as much as you can without it being too much. That is a learning process. Remember docs don't always have terrible news and that might be your situation. And get another opinion if the first one doesn't seem right. Last part of unsolicited and unproven thoughts are to incorporate, if you get pt exercises do some light and careful stretching of the area to increase flexibility to the area as you are regaining strength, that one was critical to my recovery of a grade 3 meniscus tear. Best of luck on your recovery and repair ❤
@@christinehill8326 I did go to the doc first. I would always recommend this. Docs are like lawyers. You can listen to what they have to say, it is up to you whether you accept it and take action or not.
@@TalkingWithDocs I am perplexed by this. You are the doctors. I have another 'anecdotal' story. I had annoying, but not terrible pain in the side of my knee. Sometimes it felt like it was going to give out underneath me. Stared when I was about 50yo. I was doing a lot of trail running. I had an MRI and they told me it was a torn meniscus. (Cartilage, right?) I figured I would just have to live with it. About 3 years ago I started taking collagen. Several weeks after that was the last time I felt it. I'm 65, still take collagen almost daily, still run trails and now also do weight lifting and cross fit. I have not felt the "torn" meniscus at all since. If it wasn't the collagen, . . . what was it that seemed to "heal" it? Was it maybe something other than the meniscus?
@@jimnicholson8969 I also had a torn hip labrum - same fibrocartilage. Dr said there was not enough blood flow for it to heal. (worst pain ever!!) I just kept running. Must have been the increased blood flow from running - many years later and I can hardly remember which hip it was.
I have had one hip done. Second waiting… both knees are waiting to be replaced. I was scheduled for Feb 9 this year but chickened out. Love all your I formation. Thanks Docs!
Google this article (va Google Scholar) titled "Low-grade inflammation as a key mediator of the pathogenesis of osteoarthritis" There is a reason you are having so much trouble. "OA is a disorder of the joint as a whole, with inflammation driving many pathologic changes. The inflammation in OA is distinct from that in rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune diseases: it is chronic, comparatively low-grade, and mediated primarily by the innate immune system. " I'd guess you are suffering from a low-grade chronic inflammation. I discovered I had a low grade response to what I think was the A1 protein in milk. Think hard about what is causing all this. GL.
That is interesting, but a 56yr old was told he needed a hip transplant, so he looked into what else he could do and he changed his diet and cut out all carbohydrates, or foods that cause inflammation, sugar, wheat, corn, barley so on, and within three months he was in no pain and started running, and ride his bike again, a year later he got hit by a car on his bike and had to get an x-ray on the same hip he was told was bone to bone and to the doctors surprise he had grown back his cartilage, so true or not I would give it a go before surgery that has it's own risks.
In 2019 after multiple medial meniscus tears and OA Of knee, Dr Karli at Steadman Clinic in Vail performed stem cell, PRP. (Source-my iliac crests) Not sure it "regrew" my cartilage, but no pain, still skiing, stable knees. In 60s
I have had osteoarthritis for ~ 20 years in one hip,but the other hip is normal. I am grateful I can still walk without significant pain,and am hoping to live long enough to see a cure for my problem. I am taking 750 mg of glucosamine sulfate twice daily,for whatever good it does. I am no worse,so at least my condition is stable. Used to run 15 miles a week,but those days are long gone.
No,just glucosamine. Chondroitin is commonly derived from cow cartilage,which could come from a sick cow,and give you vCJD. I don't trust those who say they only get it from carefully monitored animals. I@@butreally289
I've been taking chondroitin, glucosamin sulphates since 2008 in hope to support the damaged articular cartilage of the right knee, I'm not experiencing pain. The supplement alleviates pain and slows down the destruction process.
@@eugenezl5723 I absolutely found that it took my pain away too, in fact I couldn’t believe it. It took 2-3 weeks to start to work for me, and as long as I took it consistently I had no pain. If I didn’t take it for a day or two, the pain would return. After a year I also cut out sugar, carbs, processed foods etc., and now don’t need to take the supplements. If I have a carbohydrate binge (Christmas time) I will take Glucosamine & Chondroitin again for a few days.
Great discussion. I have osteoarthritis and have had both knees replaced. My ortho surgeon has advised that at least one shoulder, if not both, will need replacing. I just can’t face that yet and have adapted to the ROM limitations so far. Before I had knee replacement, I tried PRP. At the time, my surgeon suggested it and there were flyers and posters in his exam room. It was being performed in our community at a physician-owned clinic, not affiliated with my ortho surgeon. It was somewhat expensive, and I was very hopeful. It did not improve my pain or situation and I ended up having TKR. Later that year, I noticed all posters and flyers for the procedure and that facility had been removed from my ortho surgeon’s clinic. I told him I felt it had not improved my situation and he said the group felt it was not something they wanted to recommend to patients any longer. I appreciated him saying that. And I appreciate hearing from you two that it is not effective either. Thanks!
I wish I had read your post back in January. I got all 3 PRP injections in my right knee. Not only has nothing changed with my right knee….the PRP caused a myriad of issues. Bring peri menapause, the PRP caused an entire inflammatory response. I have had bursitis in both hips since the first injection. I could barely move one weekend. But I wanted to give it a chance. Never again. It was so painful. I turned ghost white immediately after my 3rd and final injection from the pain. I could barely walk. My ortho told me to “walk it off”. Nope. My husband and I do CrossFit and I have never experienced that much pain like I did from the PRP injections. Never again.
I saw brochures for QC Kinetix (with endorsement by a famous former football player) at my physical therapy center. I checked into it and there were A LOT of patients who were unhappy with it. Some said the personnel there didn't ask for or look at x-rays that the patients brought with them. Others were put off by the persuasion to sign up for treatments that were expensive and not covered by insurance. Never mind that the treatments didn't help some patients. That was enough to discourage me from trying that approach to my hip pain.
Sensible, verifiable advice. Way better than nonsensical claims playing to our hopes. I had a bad fall trail running 19 months ago, destroying the bursa in my hip. My doctor recommended PT, which I did. I also joined the YMCA (great song) and hired a trainer. My hip is slowly improving, but it is improving. And the rest of my non-injured body feels better than it has in 30 years! So the silver lining to my fall… re-learning the beauty and power of consistent, appropriate exercise! Move to the best of your ability, as much as you can. And watch ‘Talking With Docs’!
Just for clarification to others, a bursa is external to the joint and is not a cartilage tissue. For the most part, a burse is a tissue that cushions one tissue from another, such as a tendon from a bone (for example, the patellar bursa under the tendon that attaches your kneecap to your lower leg bone). Once damaged, they can swell significantly. If the swelling puts pressure on pain sensitive tissue, you will experience pain. If the swelling does not put pressure on anything, they may be uncomfortable, but not necessarily painful in the traditional sense of pain.
I have been playing tennis most of my life and started having knee problems in my 40's. Supplements haven't been doing anything for me but I started using castor oil and I must say it dramatically helped my knees. It absorbs quickly into the skin and helps for a number of other things.
@@atadali9711 It has ant inflammatory properties and it absorbes quickly onto the skin and bones, lubricating it. Just type what castor oil can be used for in RUclips and Google and you will be amazed how many uses there are for it and the testaments from people using it.
I’ve added cayenne pepper and frankincense essential oil to mine. Warmed the oil with the cayenne, then added the frankincense drops. I also use comfrey (aka bone knitter; repairs tissues and bones) prior to the castor oil mix. I’ve had amazing results. PRP treatment stops knee arthritis and degeneration by 15-20 yrs if you catch it early enough prior to bone on bone
I’ve had arthritis for at least 50 years (psoriatic) but now also have osteoarthritis. Ten years ago I had my left basal thumb joint replaced but I don’t want any additional surgery. The key for me is managing symptoms and managing expectations. I’m not going to get younger and there will always be a bit of pain somewhere. That’s life.
Try a carnivore diet. I’m off methotrexate and ran 10 miles several times this year with joint damage in my toes and feet. Almost no pain. It works. Just try it. Best of luck.
My husband is 72 and has had psoriatic arthritis for his whole life. He's been on all the heavy immune suppressant drugs but stopped them and has been on a carnivore diet for 2 months with great improvement.
Vitamin D3 plus k2, Organic algae oil for omega 3, 20 min exposure to sunlight in summer, going out at lunchtime in winter builds bones and joints. Entzündungen gehen langsam weg. So wurde ich meine jahrelange schuppenflechte an den knien los.
A new medical technology is a collagen matrix made from fish skin (North Atlantic Cod) that is decellularized with a mild detergent and re-cellularized using autologous fluids, then implanted in the joint. Not re-growing the cartilage back, but providing a possible solution that is the next best thing to re-growing cartilage.
I heard that the reason doctors believe that cartilage can not grow back is because it doesn't have a blood supply. The repair has to be done through the bursa. Movement of the joint causes the movement of the fluid through the bursa, and through that process is how cartilage gets nutrients to be repaired. Could this be the reason that doctors believe cartilage can not be repaired? Is it likely that the healing of cartilage is a slow process requiring the special case of movement, which is interpreted as the cartilage does not grow back? It seems unlikely that it is impossible for cartilage not to grow back since it is constantly being destroyed and needs to be replaced. Maybe solutions are not being found because the medical system is looking in the wrong places and only trying to solve it with drugs and surgery and not something more simple such as movement, providing space in the joint, and aligning the structure of the body. If no studies have been done or there are no resources for a study that would not result in a way for the support of a studies outcome leading to compensation of the sponsor of the study, then it is likely that simple solutions for health will not be studied or proven at least not in the US medical system, and therefore, many simple inexpensive solutions may be overlooked. Cartilage can be proven to grow back if it found that it is possible, but it can not be proven that it can not grow back. I agree you that supplements are not necessarily going to help or be the cure for arthritis, especially if you body does not lack the ingredient in the supplement in the first place.
The secondary problem which is sometimes primary is... loss of muscle and structure around the knee. Especially as one ages. Important to hike up elevation vs just walking
Yes, you're right - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The accurate statement is not "cartilage cannot grow back" but it is "we lack evidence of cartilage growing back." And I concur about movement. Especially micro-movement.
I am now retired but was a plumbing/heating tech for 29 years. Everyday on my knees working on furnaces, drains, etc. Developed osteo arthritis in my right hip. Xrays from 10 years ago showed mid to advanced stage. The pain was not as bad since retirement....but since retirement I started playing more golf and admittedly drinking more with friends. This twisting of the hips playing golf and poor eating habits caused the arthritic hip to really act up over the last few years. Walking one block was painfull, hiking was out of the question. Sleeping was uncomfortable and the only way to golf was to take a few Advil to get me through. A few friends have had hip replacement and said it was the only way to go. Well, I'm a bit stubborn and decided to look into other methods. I started a diet of no sugar, very little carbs. I ate mainly meats and veg. Cut down on alcohol severely. Got back into weightlifting focusing heavily on leg strength and hip muscles. Took supplements of glucosamine with chondriton / msm, and tumeric. Had blueberries in my protien shakes after my workouts to cleanse the body. Just making these changes, I started noticing a difference within 1 month. I am now into my 2nd month and have noticed the following changes. NO more discomfort when I sleep. I now go on 3km walks with my wife and dog relitively pain free. I am now leg pressing 300 pounds. I find myself walking with a limp at times when I am not in pain. It became such a habbit with the pain, but now I am 80% pain free. I can make the bed in the morning without hobbling around. If these are the improvements in a month and a half, I look forward to the next year. Maybe I have not completely rebuilt any cartilidge, but being mobile and mostly pain free is great!! Give it a try and don't give up!!!
When this popped up in my feed, I got all excited thinking there was something new that I had missed. Reality check. Good lever on the hucksters. Happy New Year to all!
I have been told by two orthopedic doctors that i needed a knee replace. Both times exercise and physical therapy got rid of most of the pain. The therapies told sometime she can help and sometime its too far gone.
I tore the cartilage in my knee in the not-too-distant past, and the doctor suggested it might be worth trying Platelet-Rich Plasma. Insurance wouldn't cover it because it was "experimental", but because the cost wasn't outrageous (~$300) I opted to have it done and pay for it myself. In my case I did see apparent mending of the tear and was satisfied that it was worth it. I will note that the doctor told me it wouldn't work on joints with arthritis occurring in them. It seems like the too often the greater problem is the damage done by our own bodies to ourselves, and this is one more example of autoimmune responses that we would do well too see medicine cure. If we could control that, a whole host of problems such as diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and even transplant rejection might be controlled.
There's a guy on YT whose doctor told him he needs a hip replacement, he fixed it and grew back cartilage on his own by changing his diet getting rid of sugar and alcohol. He was a runner and now he's back running again in his fifties or so.
How refreshing! Two informed doctors speaking clearly and honestly. No flim flam. With all the push to sell supplements, it's impossible to get anything resembling 'facts'. Thanks gentlemen! .
No, they are not pushing supplements but they are still certainly pushing surgeries, which is why the medical establishment refuses to look seriously at any therapy other than their money pot. They is no evidence that anything else works because they won’t do research on anything that doesn’t make lots of money! Several comments here suggest success with other methods.
The first time my right knee dislocated was when I was 12 years old. It has continued to dislocate sporadically throughout the years with me having to relax, take Motrin, and gradually pop it back in. The last time was almost a year ago and the first time I had to call for help because the muscles were spasming so much the pain became too much for me to push in by myself. I had one paramedic yank my leg and the other pushed it back in. I'm 63 and of thin build, and very flexible. Watching your video it never occurred to me that I may have a cartilage issue. Thank you!
@@ascolari How interesting. I bought a brace and I'm very careful about not bending my right knee for fear of it happening. Maybe I should look into this. Thank you!
sounds like you have ligament laxity in that knee since it was dislocated (that stretched it out) Prolotherapy can tighten up your ligament. Fixed my ankles in 2 shots.
I find the notion of regrowing/losing cartilage to be misleading. Osteoarthritis is the result of an imbalance in the rate of cartilage loss and cartilage creation. The disease involves accelerated metabolic processes that cause increased turnover and destruction exceeding replacement. It normally takes about 800 days to completely turn over the cartilage in the femoral head. So it is slow growing. But It is not the case that you carry the same cartilage you developed growing up throughout your life. It is conceivable that diet and lifestyle might have considerable influence on the homeostasis of joint cartilage. But more investigation is needed to fully understand what can be done to prevent cartilage loss. It's not like fingers and livers and spinal cord. Cartilage is composed of substances secreted by cells in the ends of bones, not of cells per-se.
When I was first given my diagnosis of severe arthritis in my hip - based on an xray and my symptoms I was in shock. I did not want surgery. I asked why can't they just shoot some cartilage in there. Thankfully no one tried to sell me any gimmicks - supplements or blood mixtures. Surgery is the only thing that works. It has its risks - but is better than the alternative of being unable to walk. Thanks for this video - it confirms what I learned this last year and a half.
Had most of cartilage removed from both knees 10 years apart...yup I was a lab rat....I know people now whose torn cartilage scarred over and their knee is doing fine - thoughts? And I loved your presentation and your sense of humor! Winderdome Resort BC
I really appreciate your honesty. I'm 71 and have knee arthritis and have been told I need both knees replaced. I am active inspite of my pain sometimes walking over 12,000 steps per day although my average is probably 7000 to 10,000. I am too chicken to take the plunge. I have heard good outcomes and I have heard the horror stories. I may have to do it someday but as long as I can walk without excruciating pain I will troop on.
I had both replaced at age 60. A good outcome is the result of a good surgeon and doing the Physical Therapy diligently! It hurts but you have to move that joint.
When you said we’re not gonna slam any particular product I thought you were going to continue with we’re just gonna slam them all. Keep up the good work. Stay safe.
My n=1 experiment stage 3/4 chondromalation in both knees diagnosed 20 years ago. Recent ultra sound showed no chondromolation. What I did in the meantime: strength training (full range of motion barbell squats) and frequent intermittent fasting ranging from 16 yo 72 hours. Plus periodically Keto diet.
very good point. Performance is the key factor. But I will consider MRI just to have a clear view. Initially it was diagnosed with MRI so I agree to compare, we should use the same diagnostic tool.@@TalkingWithDocs
I really appreciate this video. I was watching all those other videos promoting supplements that they claim regrow cartilage but after watching your video I now know the truth. Thank you for that.
Omg guys, lol😂😂😂 that was so funny. That’s the end of the show My husband and I absolutely love watching your show. Informative, expertise, and you two have a great sense of humour.
Thanks for this video. It has very appropriate timing for me as I'm going in for the first of 2 knee replacement surgeries in 3 days and I was wondering about Stem cell and PRP treatments, and your video answered all my questions. Thanks again.
Blue tail clinic, in St Louis, restored my knees. Blood, fat and bone marrow is taken from the patient. Stem cells are retrieved from the centrifuge and injected into the knee. I have had this procedure twice (six years apart) with success.
The glucosamine + chondroitin works for my knees. It doesn't repair or grow cartilage, but the stuff was like a miracle to me. I couldn't hardly walk, like Fred Sanford at best. After about a week, I was walking without pain at all. When I recommend it to someone, I tell them if it doesn't work in a couple of weeks, it probably is not going to help you. It is worth a try.
That stuff didn’t work for me at all, tried it and took it for years, different brands, didn’t matter because it didn’t work. I had both hips replaced with my last one just 2 years ago because I no longer could sit in a chair and then get up from a sitting position and put any weight on that leg for at least 5 minutes when I had to lean on the table standing on one leg, not being able to straighten the leg with the bum hip because the pain was so excruciating that I can’t even describe it! I sometimes had my husband get the walker when I limped into the bedroom to lay down on the bed in order to straighten my leg which hurt so bad trying to do that that it made me cry because of the pain. I also could no longer drive, nor could I get out of the car without hanging on the car door for about 5 minutes after I stood up out of the car seat, standing only on my good leg, unable to put any weight on the bad one or straightening it. I carried crutches and my walker with me so I could use either one and slowly start walking with one of them until I was able to walk on my own again, limping into our apartment. Both of my hips were bone on bone and looked like the rats had chewed on them, at least that’s what my doc said, I also had very large bone spurs on each joint and cysts as well which caused the worst pain I had ever experienced in my life and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I was really stupid with my second hip replacement for waited as long as did having it fixed. My ortho surgeon had warned against waiting when I asked him if I could perhaps wait another year pushing the surgery back because I knew what I was in for from my first replacement and tried to avoid my second surgery as long as I possibly could to which he replied saying that I didn’t have another year because of the way my hip looked and that the quality of life would greatly diminish if I didn’t move ahead with the surgery right now, but I got I was blindsided by his news of setting me up for surgery which I had not expected, so I didn’t listen to him and didn’t do what he wanted me not to do, BIG MISTAKE on my part and boy was he ever right!!! So if you need a joint replaced, don’t do like I did and wait until you can’t walk anymore and have to use a walker or crutches because you will be in excruciating pain, believe me I have very high pain tolerance and don’t cry easy, but that pain crushed me, it’s not a joke, get it done and over with!!! I now walk completely normal, I am perfectly even and the best past is that I am pain free! 👍😊
Not a supplement in the world was going to help you, God Bless. You had way too bad of damage. Thank your lucky stars the hip replacements worked out for you. My MIL, God rest her soul, she had hip replacements that didn't work out so well for her. I know quite a few people that have nightmare stories about shoulder and knee replacements. Everyone is different, what works for one may not work for another, and I think you are correct about waiting too long. Now that stuff that helped me, in my case was just my knees. I'm sure it's not a cure, but if it keeps me going for now, I'm grateful. That is why if I recommend it to anyone, I tell them it's worth a try, give it a couple of weeks. If it doesn't give them any relief, then it's not worth it, they have too much damage.@@gj9736
@@jthonn You are right saying that Glucosamine/Chondroitin works for some but not for others, my ortho even had me on it but like I said it did not do a thing for me, I tried the different kinds they have but it didn’t matter. I waited to long with my second hip replacement because I thought I could possibly avoid surgery which was being delusional on my part. I had my hips done anterior which is easier with less restrictions and faster ability to walk again. You actually have to relearn walking, using the walker first, then the cane and then on your own, physical therapy is also one thing you have to do, I had my surgery done in the am and was discharged by 5 pm going home with having to see my surgeon the very next day in the morning after my first session of PT, it was rough because I was extremely tired and still sort of groggy from the surgery the day before. They now throw you out of the hospital the same day after your surgery which wasn’t the case with my first hip when my ortho kept me 3 days in it but that was like 8 years before my second surgery. I am glad Glucosamine works for you and I hope it will continue to do so, I thought I could escape surgery but that didn’t happen unfortunately.
I had a torn Meniscus in my left knee 9 years ago and had it repaired. At that time I was told by my surgeon that I would need both knee Replaced within the next 5 years, I was only 58. Started taking collagen twice a day, lost 30 lbs and began strength training 3 times a week. I'm now 67 and knees feel strong and don't give me any problems. Probably not just one thing but the combo worked for me.
Happy New Year 🎊. I have been waiting for this video. Dec 2021, I had an MRI that “ Focal 10mm high grade chondral defect. I had surgery to “clean up” the defect. My surgeon recommended Lipogem stem cell procedure at the same time as my surgery. My surgeon said, “he had patients that it had helped and I want to delay you from having Shoulder Replacement surgery”. He never claimed that it regenerated cartilage. Post-Op 2 years, my symptoms and pain are gone.
❤An amazing video! You both are so correct ❤My boyfriend paid &2500.00 to get stem cells put into his knee. Not only was it very painful but it didn’t work. He felt it made his knee worse. Eventually he went for a knee replacement. Thank You both for your videos and honesty ❤ Much appreciated and blessings to You Both ❤
I know of two cases where stem cells inserted into the knees worked perfectly: two men, nearly 70 yrs old, 4 knees, not a painful process at all, excellent results - men back to sports activities, MR proved (before and 1 year after insertion) new cartillage. So, what say you? A “miracle”?🤷♂️
Can you remember where he got it done and how old was he? Also, if you know, where did they get the stem cells from? Bone marrow, adipose, umbilical... Got knee problems and contemplating my options. Every piece of info helps
I just had three procedures done on my knee recently and one of them was the abrasion arthroplasty. I had never heard of it before but apparently this was needed behind the patella as there was no more cartilage there at all - at least that is what the post-operation notes stated. Thank you two for explaining and for the analogies. I am sitting and waiting to recuperate from the operation. Watching this video was helpful and reminds about why this operation was worth it.
@@MarySmith-i8q Sure. Because I had three procedures done, the healing will take longer so I may be back to normal activity in 4 weeks. 🙏 S is my second week and I am making progress in my healing. The knee is still swollen and it is difficult to bend more than 90 degrees. But, I am working on bending and straightening it out every day and I see results. I am also able to put my full weight on that leg without pain but it feels wobbly and not secure. My physical therapy will start on Saturday. I wish I could have started physical therapy last week but there was no availability. It does get better. You just need to have patience with your body and give it time to heal. What exactly are you getting operated for?
@@Lorax4good I'm so glad you're feeling better and it gives me some hope! I have a torn meniscus and chondromalacia. Apparently I have damaged cartilage from my patella not "tracking" correctly. I keep listening to RUclips videos about people who feel worse after surgery and I'm scaring myself. I really need to hear a success story.
@@MarySmith-i8q I agree. There are many angles and perspectives on this subject that it can be quite offsetting. Especially around whether surgery is need for torn meniscus. But, with Chodromalacia, surgery is necessary. The sooner the better because as long as you are moving your legs, the bone to bone contact wears away in that area. Although the surgery was by endoscopic surgery, the work done inside is a major cleaning out of the broken pieces of cartilage and the fix needed on the patella. So you should expect some time for healing. I had water on the knee twice within two weeks a month before my surgery which is a reason why my knee looked like a softbal for almost two weeks. The knee already got used to that swelling but now it is going down. The crutches allowed me to get around as I did not need to put my full weight on it. I started working out again, upper body mostly. This evening I dared to exercise my hips and calves without jeapordizing my knee. Getting better overall.
I was told 7 years ago I would need to have surgery because of a severe tear on my meniscus. I was told it would never heal and would not be able to run again. I started bone broth I made myself and also purchased powered bone broth. I also purchased a knee therapy brace which increased book circulation. I continued strength training and religiously used an infrared sauna. 7 months later I was running 3-5 miles 2X a week. 7 years later…no sign of the tear. Can’t generalize for limitations over everyone. I’m 50 years old.
Great video!! I just had hip replacement. Need to have the other one done too. If I had known I was going to live this long I'd have taken better care of myself!!!
Thanks for doing this video. Unfortunately there are way too many snake oil salesmen out in the internet world today selling absolute garbage and nonsense. We need more people like you to set the record straight.
Just heard an older man that prevented a total hip operation and he did grow cartilage, our bodies are amazing. There forever I don’t think you guys are spewing your knowledge but this guy had proof !
@@shukrullahadnan3906 I'd have to dig to find it again. I believe he was from England. I'm more likely to believe the two docs who don't believe he really grew cartilage.
I saw it to, cearly you can regrow it, as far as to listening to those non drs, if not for word of mouth I would never have cured my Lyme which a dr said I couldn’t have so went untreated for years if suffering! Sometimes medical drs will not keep an open mind and cause years of pain and damage. Guess what cured me? Ivermectin.
New Cartilage, YES! I had my cartilage town off in my ankle. I was told I could have an operation, take cartilage from another area of my body, and graft it on, my right ankle. I chose the 2nd choice, wearing boots for the rest of my life. I was interested in supplements but this was 1981 and I just turned 30. I've studied the natural way of healing since around that time. During those years I had to wear boots or I could sprain my right ankle very easily or even worse so I had to be careful. In 1985 I read about 'shark cartilage'. I read that sharks don't get cancer and they don't have a bone structure skeleton but that organ is actually made of cartilage. I decided to give the fine powdered shark cartilage in a capsule a try because of the no-cancer topic about sharks. After about 6 or 8 months of taking the shark cartilage daily, I realized my right ankle which had lost the outer cartilage seemed about the same strength and stability as my left ankle. I decided to start just wearing loafers around the house to see how that would go. I found that my right ankle was fine. Fast forward to 2024; I haven't worn boots at all in at least 8 years and even when I did wear boots I only wore boots because I needed them for what I was doing. By the 1990s my right ankle was completely healed, it had new cartilage grown in. I can't explain it but I tell everyone when it comes up of this miracle. Yes, I have been taking a lot of vitamins and supplements so something like D3 or Magnesium or many other supplements may have helped this process. And, yes, 99.9% of the time I just wear shoes like everyone, no shoes in the house, and no high-tops, and I don't even think about it, my ankle hasn't been reinjured like twisting it, it's normal. I almost forgot I stopped taking the shark cartilage mainly because I didn't think I needed it after my right ankle cartilage grew back from consuming the shark cartilage capsules. I take other supplements for anti-cancer. One is Curcumin/Turmeric with Ginger. India has a low occurrence of cancer in its citizens and yes, there are many positive medical studies on Curcumin's anti-cancer effects. M.D. Anderson Cancer Center (#2 for cancer in the USA) has done many of the studies but they can't make any money from prescribing supplements and herbs. They know of it's working, maybe to try to synthesize its natural chemical makeup? One more thing. I also had my medial meniscus torn out on the interior of my right knee in the mid-70s. The surgeon talked me into cutting the mushroomed meniscus out since it was torn badly. My right knee would pop out of place when walking and it could happen easily. I found just doing an air kick with my right leg usually popped it back. Doing that was an everyday thing. I think the right knee is about 90% now and hardly ever pops out but it did a while back one time only. Hang in there. God is good, He's always good and nothing else. Really! Thank you, Jesus!
Awesome testimonial. We do need more research to this so we don't have to wait 100 years from now. Bone broth - I like the Korea version of it, it's yummy - would be full of dissolved cartilage in it. It's a good place to start for anyone willing to do research. Perhapls kelp and seaweedas well.
I read a study that was done by Harvard that was talking about chicken broth for cartilage generation. I’m not a doctor, but I’ve heard it more than once
I was told that walking on the treadmill on an incline of 3.0 (not higher) is better for the knees than flat and it has been working well for me despite prior pain. I do 30 minutes or more 6 days a week and I feel better.
You were told the correct thing. If you train on a treadmill you can get a better workout for your heart and your joints by increasing the angle and not the speed. KEEP MOVING. NEVER GIVE UP
At age 47 I had significant plantar fascietis ans knee pain. Went to physical therapy. Doctor took x-rays said my knee cartilage is almost gone. I learned some exercises at PT and joined a gym, got a trainer. Also I got a physical job that involves miles of walking everyday. I treated the plantar with a lacrosse ball roll every night. That went away almost immediately. The knee pain took about a year. I no longer have the trainer. I now perform squats almost daily as well as other leg exercises. No knee pain. No supplements. I attribute it to strengthening the muscles. At age 54, I think I figured it out. We'll see. I know that if I stop going to the gym, or exercising, the pain returns. I have taken glucosamine chondroitin before but it made me tired and didn't seem to help. I have no idea if my cartilage is back. Probably not. Good video. Thanks
Of You don't eat sugar and bread...and things that make inflamation in body, the whole body regenerate. Olso You cam take suplements tonrecover well and the cartilaje will grow! Take care! And search for other clips in You tube about sugar and medicin like what i have now "joint support" made in sweden.
I tore the miniscus in my left knee. Dr ordered an. MRI. Sent me to surgeon . Surgeon said he could fix it in 15-20 minutes. I said "how could you do that?" He said he would shave off the rough edges and the miniscus wouldn't hurt so bad, bad that I would have to have knee replacement surgery in a couple of years. I said "no thanks. " Want home and prayed to God for healing and told my stem cells to go into the knee and regrow the cartiledge. Believe it or not, that happened. That was in 2019, and I still have a pain-free knee. God's answer was wonderful! Beth Ann Mckean, now 82 year old.
I believe you Beth. I was told by an Ortho. doctor in the 1970's that I should have a knee replacement for chondromalacia. I was in my 20's and was a practical nurse. Bending my knees every day. Over time the pain stopped, and of course I had said no way to the knee replacement. I am now 72 years old and still have both knees, and work PT doing home care for seniors. I'm also a Christian, and have been healed more than once in answer to prayer. God is good. God is real, to those who are reconciled to Him. John 3:16-21
As someone in their early 20s, I really hope regenerative medicine will be advanced enough for us to regenerate all sorts of organs by the time by body starts to break down in my 30s.
I have been helping my pain by managing it with exercises. I do TaiChi, QiGong, brisk walk, stretching, dancing. I don’t take any medication. Movement has been helping me for years. I hope everyone out there finds a method that helps them successfully to manage their pain. Everyone is different and no two persons are alike. Namaste🙏🏽🌈☀️
I have just found out that I have knee osteoarthritis. Have had a painful medial for the last 6 months wrongly diagnosed as a meniscus tear. The pain is excruciating. I have been a regular exerciser but the last six months have seen sporadic activity. I am happy that I can be active. Thanks for the hope
Love your videos and love the fact that y'all wont critique some of the commercials for cartilage repair, but it sure would be funny. Would appreciate source evidence links though. I might take your word that what you say is evidence based, but you know... I participated in a PRP knee injection study years ago; it definitely helped reduce pain, and extend my ability to play volleyball by a couple of years, but never really found out what the study results found out. Did finally get a full knee replacement end of last year, and wish I had done it years ago. Thank you for doing what you do!
This is good to know. I’ve got a good orthopedic surgeon onboard to replace my hip, but I have been “benevolently” gaslit by people at physical therapy organizations who told me I could re-build my body to whatever state I was in, prior to the damage to my hip-joint.
Your video was quite informative and clears up some misinformation that I have seen and heard. I have a frayed meniscus in my left knee and was given many options that others have noted. Thankfully, through strengthening and stretching, I have been able to manage pain and remain quite active while holding off surgery option. I will be watching for the medical advancements you noted. Thank you!
Wow, I give you guys a gold star for truth. I'm taking Boron, MSM, Hyleuronic Acid, Cilica, to help with my symptoms, to reduce inflammation as I want to escape a double knee replacement. I found your video by searching for knee exercises. Now I'm doing PT at home. But the pain has gotten so bad. Where is a good clinic or institute in Phoenix? Enjoy your presentation. Excellent. (aa)
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Notes: 1) the individuals (doctors) in the video are wearing surgical outfits as if they are about to conduct a surgery or have just completed a surgery (I suspect they put their surgical outfits on specifically to create this video). 2) They seem like good guys and I suspect they are excellent surgeons or body mechanics in their orthopedic specialties. it would be interesting to know more about their practices and results and/or statistics . Where is this information linked up to support their claims distilled down into lay terms. 3) Watch this video multiple times and you realize anecdotally “if I’m a hammer everything looks like a nail”. Conclusion Doctors provide important services for their patients and communities thankfully; but don’t ever forget they are products of the system and have traversed narrow pathways designed to reenforce their views (and subsequent lifestyles) . They focus their words on a scientific approach though often times don’t indicate their sources or the funding of those sources. They are one point on a continuum of knowledge imho. ☮️
I was a runner then a jogger then a walker and my knee pain just got worse, I had injections, I did excersises and started riding a bicycle and the deterioration of my knees continued, if you are fortunate enough to get relief from whatever you do for your arthritis thank god, but l’m getting a knee replacement.
Research studies on NIH/NLM, done in 2016, on use of Undenatured Native Type 2 Collagen for Knees study. I’m all for symptom reduction. This supplement took 4 months to notice hip pain reduction. I have also noted bone on bone subcalcaneal joint arthritis on X-rays prior to 2 PRP/Umbilical Core Stem Cell injections. 5 years later, comparing initial heel axial view X-rays. There is now a slight joint space. I have regained 75% ROM, and relatively pain free symptoms (I have spurring that interferes with the peroneal tendon.) Going on year 6 with no return of pain symptoms Also, 2 PRP injections (no stem cells) were injected into each knee (one injection into each knee.) Again, 6 years now and still no knee pain. I’m 59 now and no history of sports, but I have Calcium Pyrophostate Deposition as a result of Hereditary Hemochromatosis. Stem Cells and/or PRP injections have really helped improve my pain management with minimal NSAIDS dependance.
Great Video. Being in my 70's and lifting at the local gym 4 days a week plus 2 days of cardio biking I have had very good success with PT on my arthritic right knee. (had a torn meniscus of the inner r. knee about a year ago). The simple act of making sure that my structure is aligned correctly when working out on leg day, and lifting moderate weights like 180 lbs on the squat machine, (which helps me keep everything aligned) and doing high reps (5 sets of 35 reps) along with biking on off days keeps pain away and makes my knees more flexible, (along with stretching) . Of course like a doctor friend once said to me, "It all works until it doesn't. I think that sometimes we under estimate PT along with the body's ability to adapt.
HA injections work great on the knee I injured and had arthoscopied. Although I think I still had quite a bit of good cartilage after arthoscopy was done to remove a small broken piece.
It is true, but doctors usually nowadays take a personalized treatment approach where they might suggest knee injections with Hyaluronic acid, exosomes, and in some cases stem cells as well.
I did both knee cartilage repair using stem cell, but the surgeon had to drill the bone first (microfracture) and then regular injections of Stem cell + Hyaluronic acid, now I can cycle and run again with little issue
. 15 years ago in my 40's I was very active , running , tennis everything and my knees very sore and always throbbing all week . I started taken Glucosamine ....My family Doctor said there was some scientific evidence that it helped joints . It has gave me great relief for 15 years. I NOt perfect and can t play tennis on hard court like i use to BUT I still to this date in my 60's .... NOT as much pain i did in my 40's . Maybe you cant regrow cartilage ....but i think what you have left .....you can keep it healthy or tougher or more gelly or something like that. Good luck to all.
First I’d like to say how enjoyable and informative you two doctors make the information. Thank you. Both my knees have been in bad shape for a long time. Tylenol helps. I really don’t want replacement though. Am I causing more problems by not having the joint replacement?
Thanks for the advice about delay. My siblings are always urging me to get total knee replacements. I think my knees bother them more than they bother me. Sometimes I walk like a drunk cowboy, but I can also hike 7 miles, swim 4 miles, and bicycle 50 miles.
Loved how you went through the list of supplements that could grow new cartilage😊 On a more serious note however, my belief is that vibration, healthy diet and believing in ones ability to self heal can make miracles
I CANNOT understand with all the wonderful materials and resources that we have on this planet that we cannot to some degree manufacture or 3D print a meniscus, it's just a filler between the two bones and it's a padding and that should be easily replaced. Or take it from a cadaver. I just don't understand why that can't be done, and this topic is made to be MORE COMPLICATED than it needs to be.
Good point! They can even make biological structures in 3d printing so it might not even need to be plastic. Even if they could take some stem cells and grow it and implant it and I dunno scrape the bone top so it adheres perhaps. Looks like something they must be trying to donsonewhere. Especially aince sports people have thus problem and there's so much money in sports these days.
MEFISTO. It's an EU wide collaboration to engineer a solution to a torn or partially removed meniscus. There making great progress and begin clinical trials in this year I believe.Check it out online
I started taking a supplement that says it can regrow cartilage and now 2 years later my knees are hugely better. I can walk without pain most of the time.
Thank you for a valuable moment listening to doctors. Can you imagine how poor people are preyed upon by vendors selling supplements claiming cartilage regeneration! What you just produced is very valuable.
Myself,73, I have let my knees go so long, that there is no longer any cartilage. I also have Venous Statous, with Venous Statous skin on my lower legs. Because of that and the risk of blood clots and infection, I have put off knee replacements on both knees. I can still shuffle around, but walking any length is almost impossible. My primary doctors seems to think I can do knee replacement. My orthopedic doctors I've seen say it quite risky, but might do it. Plus I don't want to give up months of my life for rehab, and the additional pain that will go with knee replacement. Bluntly I am very scared to proceed with surgery. I've had cortisone shots, and gel shots, which only offers maybe a month of relief of pain, but doesn't help the walking or strength in my legs. I'm just quite depressed with life and I have no other options but to eventually be in a wheel chair. Really gets me down. So bad wish there was a better way to deal with this.
Hi JamesPN7JF 🤗 I am 65 years old and have leukaemia (10th yr) and an inoperable brain aneurism. I had open heart surgery with so many complications afterwards that a year later I still cannot return to work more than a few hours a day 3 times a week. I have to work, as I have been a widow for 25 years and have little savings. I have had severe arthritis for the last 20 years, especially in my knees and ankles. For the last 10 years I have been lucky enough to have had yearly cortisone injections in my knees which practically made me pain free, but now they don’t work any more. I know how lucky I am that they lasted that long . Plus I cannot take anti inflammatories anymore because of my heart. I cannot have blood transfusions as I am allergic to blood products, and my blood doesn’t clot because of the leukaemia and generally I am a mess. My doctors call me “medically challenging”! I also have no cartilage left whatsoever, just bone grinding on bone and my orthopaedic surgeon says that my bones are also deformed now. Knowing that my leukaemia has greatly shortened my life expectancy, I used to swear that I wouldn’t bother with having knee replacements. That was when the cortisone worked and I could take daily anti inflammatories. Now the pain is excruciating and my mobility is so limited that I have decided to go through with the operation in a few months once my heart strong enough. I too am depressed sometimes with the hand that life has dealt me, but, unless I choose to help myself, all that will happen is that I will get gradually worse and I don’t want to end up in a wheelchair or hobbling around with a walker. I wasn’t worried before I went in for my heart operation because I only had a few weeks to live if my valve wasn’t replaced and I went into theatre with great confidence, and even a year of hell afterwards has still not altered my opinion that I was very lucky. However a knee replacement scares the s*** out of me. What scares me most though is being a cripple, so I’m just going to have to suck it up and take the chance that it will improve my life. I’m not telling you this so you can feel sorry for me, I’m just saying that if you have options, even if things are not great as far as the rest of your health is concerned, you should really reach out and grasp them and make your remaining years as comfortable as possible. Find a great orthopaedic surgeon that will look at all your issues, and who will work with your other doctors/specialists in advance to make sure that everything it’s taken into consideration, and planned for ahead of your surgery. You deserve to live out the rest of your days as pain-free as possible, and with a decent amount of mobility. Wishing you all the very best xxx
@james-np7f I'm in exactly the same situation - can only shuffle around the house. Haven't been out of my house for the last 1 year since I cannot walk more than a few steps without pain. I'm only 47. Surgery is not an option for me also due to different reasons. I tried collagen peptides but didnt do anything for me even after 5 months. This is not living! I'm done with false hope.
I asked my doc about all these regenerative techniques in order to avoid an ankle replacement. He said that the work best in younger patients, under 40 (I am pushing 60.) there is a lot that can be done and moving is key. P.S. the 3-D printed titanium ankle is doin well!
Kate P had my ankle replacement done in 2018 and wish I had done it years ago! No pain and was on a cruise 3 months later, walking completely on my own! I hope you're having a complete success with yours also!😎
It's interesting to see what you said about stem cell therapy. My dad had this done 5 years ago in Sep 2019 and he's been doing great ever since. He tore his ACL around 20 and instead of getting treatment just stopped running and started bicycling. So his muscle has supported him. The bicycling had started hurting him a lot, so he sees a doc in 2019 and they were like we could do knee replacement but because my dad is so active, walking the dog for miles a day, biking, dirt biking, he wanted other options. Got a guy who does SCT. 5 years on and his osteoarthritis hasn't come back at all. Now he does all of the above and is doing heavy weight lifting with an instructor as well. And he's almost 70. Not saying it will work for everyone but clearly it did something for my dad. Now here I am at the age of 35 and I have spots of bone on bone so I'm going to see the same guy.
Cartilage does turn over--just not very fast. You don't have all the same cartilage you had when you were 25--unless you're still in your 20s. It usually wears down faster than it can regrow. Especially in hips and knees. The key is to slow down the rate of destruction. Paradoxically, one of the keys to slowing down cartilage degradation is to use it. Use increases lubrication and, to a very limited extent, circulation (by imbibation). There are also foods and chemicals that can slow the rate of destruction--i.e. by reducing inflammation or by feeding MMR proteins (so they will have less appetite for cartilage). There's a doctor at Stanford working on a method of using microfracturing to generate fiber cartilage but medically altering it to hyaline cartilage. I don't remember his name. And proven results are still in the future.
Can you share with how i can find the foods that slow the destruction of cartilage? Or can you name them here? Also on the opposite side of the spectrum, foods that vould cause inflammation would be nightshades? Bell peppers, tomatoes, eggplant?
@@2malsahm59Yes nightshades can be very inflammatory for some people. Need to limit sugar/carbs first and processed oils first and foremost. Look into keto and carnivore for best results.
@ChiTownLove I had two total knee replacements in the last 14 months. I really worked hard at physical therapy after the surgeries. Result: I am not going back to Marathon running , BUT I'm doing a lot of bicycling and partner dancing! Dan, Chicago
Thank you. I have been helped greatly by praying to God, warmth, glucosamine, chondroitin, msm, collagen 2, turmeric, ginger, curcumin, mushrooms, pine nuts, unsaponifiabke avocados, boswelia herbs and other things. I don’t care if it’s cartilage or not or how or why 😄 God’s plants, God’s water, God’s healing, God’s love ❤️ God bless and heal you all ❤️ Try the power of prayer ❤️
Doctors told me my knee was bone to none. Their solution to place a nail in my knee. Thanks to God I took glucosamine with chondrotin , intermittent fasting and keto diet I still have painless regenerated knees❤😊
I had 3 tears and 2 surgeries in my left knee, when the weather would start to change it would ache like a bad toothe ache, I started fasting, lost 46 lbs. pounds, cut sugar and ate clean foods. I am 56 and my knee feels better now than ever! When you fast 21-24 hours you are at max stem cell production, then I sat on a bench with an ankle weight 5lbs. and got the stem cell rich blood into the knee by gently extending the leg away from bench and back to rest. I am currently pain free 7 years this October.
Were the cracks glued or sewn with fibrin glue? Suturing does not help much or can tear again if the tear is in the white = not perfused zone of the meniscus
Traction, decompression, got me over 10 years sciatica, might work other areas,
Totally agree. I have had exactly the same experience.
👏👏👏 I also changed my diet, I am 57 and doing very
Woww... I am thinking about bariatric suregery.. my osteoarthritis is bad and Im heavy makes it worst... ❤❤❤u did the right thing
I started swimming because I couldn’t tolerate walking or even laying or sitting too long. I joined a gym on a huge leap of faith, being as I could barely even walk, to use the pool facilities. Being in the water took all the weight off my hip joints. Holding on to a float and just moving my feet back and forth to do a couple laps was uncomfortable. But the more I went the more I loosened up. My range of motion has increased and I can sleep through the night without readjusting. This inspired me to eat better. 2 meals a day. Meat and veggies- no junk. After 3 months I’ve tapered off pain pills and I feel 20 years younger. Don’t give up! My theory is your body waste away if you don’t use it. I don’t know the science of it but I know there is hope. Keep moving!! Water helps!
We agree. Congrats!
Try to do a serious parasite cleansing then go for 3 to 7 days fasting. No sugar,carbs, starch.Eat porc/beef and vegetables. It worked for my hip arthritis ...
@@TalkingWithDocs sayın hekimler dizimde kireçlenme başlangıcı ve kondromalazi patella grade2 var namaz kılmak zarar verir mi
@@TalkingWithDocsDear doctors, I have the beginning of arthritis in my knee and chondromalacia patella grade 2. Is it harmful to pray? Will it cause more harm?
@@TalkingWithDocsDear Doctors, is there a relationship between intestinal health and general physical health?
I find that moving every day, jogging or walking keeps my knees moving with less aches and pains. But what has helped the most is strength training all the muscles in my legs to keep them strong and capable. Great video 😊
motion is the lotion :)
I ran 36,000 miles, six nine-minute hilly miles along with 16 miles biking and 1½ hours of yoga daily at age 61. I now have bilateral osteoarthritis and have used a rollator for the past eight years.
@@gordon-1 So, is your condition the result of all that running and biking?
@@gordon-1 Doing exercise is good... but you have to allow your body to repair itself as well.
Same for me. 2 times per week strength training and I won't have knee pain for at least 2 weeks. Jogging is also good, but a bit less powerful. I walk a lot, and it seems walking is not enough. I am 52
Thanks
I recently had hip replacment and was starting to be convinced I could have grown the cartilage back.
Thanks so much for your super thanks !!
My wife has osteoarthritis in her hips. At age 77, she has had this problem for about a dozen years. It progressed to the point where she asked to be placed on a wait list for hip replacement surgery. It was getting so painful she stopped hiking and cycling, and sleeping was difficult. Meanwhile........we're both avid gardeners and grow almost everything we eat. We started eating a more vegetarian diet simply because we had the vegetables. And cruciferous vegetables topped the list because we like them: broccoli, cabbage, bok choi etc. Meat and dairy became just an occasional treat. Slowly, slowly, over a period of months and years, her symptoms subsided. We got back into hiking and cycling, her sleep improved and she had herself removed from that wait list. Her doctor told her that improvement isn't possible, yet here we are. She has been advised to keep doing whatever it is that she's doing!
This was a purely accidental, lucky discovery for us. Will adopting a mainly plant-based diet heavy on the cabbage help you? Maybe. And maybe not. I do encourage you to try it, though. You have nothing to lose. And be patient: don't expect overnight results.
Yes it certainly can help symptoms. It can't regrow cartilage but who cares. If you feel better keep it up!
Thank you for sharing your testimony. I have terrible inflamation in my left knee. I will go this route. I'm turning 70 this year.
May I ask.. why do you have to wait to get the hip surgery ?? Is that standard?
@@Royce88i think he is talking about public hospital
When I first developed a little osteoarthritis in my knees and hips I was told that the important things to do was keep the joints moving - this would slow progression. So I try to walk several miles per week. Decades later, so far so good. Have a little more pain, but nowhere near to needing replacements. The theory I heard was that using the joint compresses and releases the cartilage, pumping nutrients into it. No idea if there's anything to the theory, but mild exercise seems to have worked well for me.
I think you are right, I have less trouble because I became more active.
Yes. Check out knees over toes guy.
I had a severe cartilage injury to my knee, x-rays showed some osteoarthritis also. Doc recommended Glucosamine with Chondroitin. Within 2-3 weeks pain was gone (after 4 years of limping)! Changed my diet, dropped sugar, carbs and processed foods completely. I feel better than when I was in my twenties, and I’m in my sixties!
@@butreally289Congratulations on your progress. I just had an initial arthritis diagnosis and wondered how much condroiten/msm worked for you. It sounds like reducing inflammation with supplements and changes in diet has helped w pain symptoms. In the video they mention supplements and diet may reduce pain symptoms. I am going to give this a try along w strengthening muscles and tendons around the joint once the pain reduces. I am almost 60
congrats, it does work for some people, it worked for me. It depends on how much damage. If it doesn't work in a week or two, it probably is not going to help.@@butreally289
80’s kid here, roller skating, aerobics, weights, Tae Bo, light running, yo yo dieting. Years and years of grinding and cracking when bending the knee. Finally an official meniscus tear. Had surgery to smooth it out and was doing good, near the end of recovery that foot slipped forward while walking and something hurt. Dr wouldn’t hear of it and said it’s just still healing. That was 2019 I still have swelling at the surgery entry points and random swelling of the whole knee. Basic Dr. mentioned compression socks might help out since they help push more circulation up to that area. WELL, that was the best advice I had ever gotten. In the meantime, I guess I’m “still healing” sometime the “best” ortho doc in the area can still be jerks
Nope, it's just some things can't be fixed. Sorry it's not going well. -Fellow gen x with hurting knees but I'm an ortho dood.
I had mentioned earlier that exercise bike riding is great for knee arthritis. It's also great for meniscus tears. For my first tear I had surgery. For my second, I had PT. That was better than anything the orthopedist could have offered. I have an ache once in a while, but basically, I'm a changed woman.
I am an avid tennis player (club champion, play in national tournaments) in my late 60’s and developed significant knee pain - it even hurt while sitting for prolonged periods. I had to use knee braces to be able to play. I started taking a glucosamine/chondroiton supplement and collagen peptides EVERY day for a year and my knee pain is 95% resolved. I can now play tennis 10-15 hours per week without a brace. I realize that this is anecdotal and I have not had any imaging to evaluate my cartilage. That all said, I believe this regiment of exercise and supplements is very low risk with modest cost and worth considering if you have mild to moderate arthritis causing knee pain.
Yes thanks for sharing your anecdote and so glad it's working for you
@Mariehart4294 "glucosamine/chondroiton supplement and collagen peptides EVERY day"
Marie, can you tell me what brands you bought? I'm trying to help my husband out with his knee pain.
@@LisaMurphyGreat Lakes, Vital Proteins gelatine powders are really effective at significantly reducing joint pain. Also, we recently started our dog on a cheap glucosamine/chondroitin supplement from the supermarket and it’s stopped his post walk stiffness
I am in a very similar situation to you. I am early 70's, former amateur USTA player back in the 80's, now basically pretty healthy but with knee pain from damaged cartilage. I am not severe, but my meniscus on both knees has spot tears. Unfortunately in 2020 i had a bad slip on ice and tore my quad tendon off my left knee cap which required surgical repair, so that knee has permanent soreness. But, as you say, mobility is key to reducing stiffness. I too have been on a daily regimen of a product from Solgar supplying glucosamine chondroitin and MSM in clinically-specified ratios, as well as a daily dose of Collagen Peptide in water. I have been doing this for about a year, and i have to say, i have experienced significant improvement in mobility and reduced pain. For me, the number one yard stick for measuring pain is going down stairs. To the degree i can traverse flights of stairs with less pain means i can go on a run successfully. I am preparing to return to the tennis court after decades away from the sport .... wish me luck! It'll be hard not to push myself too far, as i was fast and agile back in the day and hopefully i can resist trying to replicate my youthful performance which definitely will not be available to that degree. Thanks for your post !
I worked for a supplement company and most of our clients were old people with arthritis who could not stop but sing the praises of the product they bought from us : a powder of hydrolysed collagen. These people told me first-hand that they couldn’t climb up stairs before taking that powder and now were moving freely and painlessly.
I’m not a doctor but there are definitely supplements which work, sorry !
My protocol, vitamin K2 regularly +D3, combined with regular collagen peptides, combined with DIY traction brace when sleeping, combined with red light panel therapy. In six months, amazing results.
What is a DIY traction brace? and where do you put it?
@@Shapeshifter7777search words Knee decompression brace. or you could make one yourself.
@@Shapeshifter7777DIY is do it yourself, but there are a few traction/decompression knee braces on the market. they are knee braces that stretches or pulls your lower leg from your upper leg. basically stretching your knee. I did this and still occassionally do while sleeping so cartilage can regrow and fill out a "stretched" knee if there is an abundance of collagen type amino acids in your system. the red light exposure in the meantime increases the Power of your cells mitochondria making cells grow faster.
What kind of brace??
Hi what is DIY traction please let me know I my one knee is v bad thank you
I have been making gelatin broth for over ten years. I have a horrible knee problem thanks to a needless surgery I had which I found out later is a horrible surgery that many orthos would never do and is simply a moneymaker. Medical doctors are beyond greeedy and distrusted by a growing number of population. They no longer get that respect and admiration they once did when I was growing up. With that surgery, that doctor took my knee pain from a 3 or 4 to a 7 or 8. I'm 51 and had a recent mri so check up on that area where they butchered my knee by taking out too much cartilage and the radiologist said my knee looks like a teenager's and actually pulled up a teenage girl's mri to show me. I told him I took the gelatin broth and he said he was very interested in learning more. I also give it to my 15 year old cat. She was sick one week with constipation/kidney stuff as is common in her breed and I took her to two different vets. Both vets reacted strongly to her body by saying she looked incredible for her age. I told one vet about the broth and he wanted to pay me to make it for him and I have that email as proof.. So that is two separately verified analysis by medical professionals that are impressed by gelatin. It must have replenished my cartilage on some level because I started the broth at around 40. I didn't maintain my teenage cartilage. The reality is big pharma won't fund a million dollar double blind study on gelatin broth, which is the only thing that puts it on the radar of doctors such as these..
Im really interested, could you post a link to the recipe or maybe mention it here? Ive never heard of Gelatin Broth. I used to make chicken bone broth, is that what you're talking about? Thanks!
Receipe
Could you please tell how to make gelatin broth and how much to take?
Yeah please do share !!
I thought surgery was the best option with the technology that’s latest and I’ve heard ppl doing well post surgery !
don’t know if you where answered but you can use Knox original gelatin. Don’t know if it will work, I take a chunk of it everyday, can’t hurt.
Brad & Paul, thank you for spending your time to help everyone understand how to take charge of there own health. The service you provide to the public is truly a selfless act.
Doing our best. Thanks for noticing. 😀
Hello doctors. Could you tell does colligen supplements work..thanks ❤❤😊
Its not true, if our cartilage didn't grow back, it would wear out over time and everyone would have arthritis.
I had arthritis in my hands about 10 years back, I started eating more meat and animal fat and low carb/sugar and now its gone.
@@PF-gi9vvI, agree..I, also add Castro oil as needed..Coconut oil, filtered water & Beef Tallow ❤
@@user-rob34 I am not a doctor but I can reply to the question, NO, it doesn't help in anyway
Everyone should try this at least once...its easy and there's no downside. In the shower, blast hot water at your knee for one minute, then instantly blast it with cold water for a minute. I usually get several hours of pain relief when I do this. I've been playing tennis (singles) for 50 years and have no cartilage left, but this still helps alot.
Yes
Interesting. Wonder why this helps.
I have just intuitively been trying this a few times the last month as well as having the opportunity to cold plunge skiing up in Breckenridge and it feels like once again it is helping the flow of fluid and nutrients in the area so reducing swelling and increasing range of motion so helping with healing. Also the numbing effect of the cold takes away any burning, itching, stiff feelings that even if minor linger.
@@arizonanative7409Read about HORMESIS and hormetic stressors.
I believe it. I did a year of cryotherapy and it really helped.
In the winter, my arthritis is very intense. I take Meloxicam and Tylenol as needed but what really works is CBD salve. It is instant relief, especially at night if it’s particularly painful. I got my 80 year old mom some too and she is over the moon for it.
Pls share the brand you take
Agreed. CBD works really well for me. I’ve tried many but CBD Clinic Maximum Strength is the best. Www.massagewarehouse.com is the one place to buy it online.
One Jan a couple of years ago I woke up with an intense pain in my right knee. It got worse over the following week to the point where I found it difficult to sleep and even walking up stairs. Went to the doctor and said it was arthritis. Had an x-ray done was confirmed as arthritis. I knew this already because ten years earlier i had arthroscopic surgery for tidying up my cartilage. I was was told that there was the beginning of arthritis. Some discomfort but manageable. This time it was uncomfortable. Doctor prescribed Celebrex. Kinda worked but it's not recommended to take it for long time. Besides some of the disclosed side effects were relevant to my age -75. Two years earlier i made a tincture of frankincense because it was effective for minor aches. It was widely known as an anti- inflammatory. I upped the dosage and within a week noticed a noticeable improvement. In the first month i would take it three times a day especially before bed. A typical dose was 4-5 ml in a glass of water 3 or 4 times a day. I take it once a day now. Sometimes not at all. I have absolutely no discomfort now. I did Amazon flex for 10 months with no pain. For me it was like a miracle. To make the tincture of frankincense i use a 5 to 1 ratio. One Cup frankincense five cups over proof vodka. Freeze the frankincense first and then grind it an coffee grinder then add to 1.9 li mason jar with top on. Stir daily. I put the jar on top of the hot water tank. Ready to use 1-3 months. The longer the better. There are different types of frankincense you can use. I buy it on Amazon. Pretty cheap. Besides anti-inflammatory it's useful for your gut and seems to regulate your blood sugar levels.
CBD helps me too!
@@amorpugh4959 PBI-- The Shikai brand, sold online and at Whole Foods, works for me.
Dr Wallace a veterinarian rebuilt knee cartilage of a NBA player who was about to retire early because of his knee cartilage. He used liquefied chicken bone cartilage and the players wife said that it added several more years to the players career and a few million $’s for them. Harvard Med heard about it and made a challenge believing it wouldn’t work. It worked ! Myself I had a shattered tibial head rebuilt at and was told eventually I would need a new knee replacement. I drink bone broth every morning after my decaf coffee. 0:02
Thank you for this tip. I will try it out. I have inflammatory osteoarthritis of the finger joints and it's getting worse. I've been trying supplements and Castor oil for the past month, but no improvement at all, in fact they are getting worse. Bone broth interests me. Can it be either beef or chicken bone broth?
Has bone broth helped?
@@renita9424 I use both hydrolyzed beef and chicken it comes down to the taste. One brand has no taste of you don’t like either. It’s also good for the skin and hair.
Thanks for sharing
What do you mean by saying it worked for you though?
Do you do sports/lifting?
If so, have you been able to push your body without previous joint limitations or youre relieved of day to day pain?
Drinking broth helped you?
Very good talk today. I had bilateral knee replacement 9 years ago after trying everything else. The surgery was a great success and has improved my quality of life 100% . I am very careful to not impact my knees and damage the plastic between the implants. My shoulders are now a problem but at 83 I am not sure that I can get them fixed.
I also have been taking glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM since 1998 ! At that time I was 46 and suffering with pain and stiffness in my right hip, my family doctor ordered a X-ray and found that I had moderate to severe joint degeneration in my hip. He suggested that I could try glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM. I also would see Chiropractors for neck & hip adjustments. After about 3 weeks I could feel my mobility had improved as well much less pain . Not only did I get improvement in my hip but also my neck issues disappeared.
I think that the benefit is from the synovial fluid being supported in some way to provide lubrication in the joint ..
Just to mention that Veterinarians also prescribe glucosamine and chondroitin to horses & dogs that have mobility problems where noticeable improvement is seen !
One more thing that I think needs to be said is that glucosamine and chondroitin won't work if your joint is bone to bone!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Appreciate it
Keep up the good work ! Your my goto Doc’s for reliable advice!
Did u gain weight after taking glucosamine supplements?
Same with me. I take the glucosamine and I also take Piascladine. The two helped with my severe pain and I can go another year before my knee replacement!
I'm allergic to chondroitin from shellfish...but I take MSM and glucosamine
The last time I saw the orthopaedic surgeon (sadly he's since died from an early heart attack) his advice was avoid further surgery. Lose weight, exercise (not running). Done that and the knee problems that plagued me before an arthroscopy 30+ years and then returned 10 years ago have reduced to insignificant.
Thank you for this, I really needed to hear it
Wow, an honest doctor who cared more about you than making an extra buck from surgery.
I had knee pain and low back pain when I started hormone replacement therapy aches stopped . Well my quality of life is much better now and not having any pain that’s amazing!!
Was the knee and backpain the reason you started hormone replacement therapy?
@@Rub3nAlexander no actually for many other symptoms. I noticed the pain went away after 1 month on Hrt that was 2.5 years ago. In my case HRT helped a lot but not all cases are related to hormones imbalance.
Estrogens keep our bodies young, after menopause they go into the basement
Hi, there! My experience with PRP for osteoarthritis in my knees, somehow contradicts your statement that only treats the symptoms. In 2 years of twice a year PRP, the disease has not evolved! It was proven by IRM before and after. The PRP procedure also had an effect not only in stopping the degeneration of my knees cartilage (missing most of it)- but also there were no symptoms for more than 3 years after. Thank you for sharing your insights with us!
Thanks! Can you give me information on what is PRP? Thanks
@@ospringate Platelet-Rich-Plasma Injection -or Vampire method. To create platelet-rich plasma, clinicians take a blood sample from the patient and place it into a device called a centrifuge that rapidly spins the sample, separating out the other components of the blood from the platelets and concentrating them within the plasma. Plasma mixed with Hyaluronic Acid will be injected in the places in need. My knees in that case.
PRP stands for Platelet-Rich Plasma, a treatment derived from your own blood to promote healing and tissue regeneration. It is widely used in medical and aesthetic practices, including:
1. Orthopedics: For healing injuries like tendonitis, ligament tears, and arthritis.
2. Dermatology: To stimulate hair growth in cases of hair thinning or alopecia.
3. Aesthetics: For skin rejuvenation, reducing wrinkles, and improving skin texture (commonly known as the "vampire facial").
4. Sports Medicine: To speed up recovery from sports injuries.
5. Dental Procedures: To promote healing after surgeries like tooth extractions or implants.
How PRP Works:
Blood Draw: A small amount of your blood is drawn.
Centrifugation: The blood is spun in a centrifuge to separate platelets from other components.
Injection: The concentrated platelets are injected into the target area, where they release growth factors to accelerate healing and tissue repair.
About 6 years ago (2019) at 59, I had stem cell treatment on my left knee. In my 20's had my left meniscus removed due to injury. I continued a very active lifestyle and always played lots of sport until my 50's when my knee was giving me too much trouble, with almost bone on bone situation. I was headed toward a knee replacement which would have curtailed any future sport like skiing, so I opted for stem cell treatment.
I now have about 3mm of cartilige on the ends of my bones, no pain and what I consider to be 95% success. I don't run anymore, but everything else is fine. I thoroughly recommend stem cell treatment, however I understand if you are over 60 the likleyhood of success starts to diminish.
This was good. I had a torn meniscus in my right knee and arthritis in my right shoulder. My orthopedic surgeon (sports medicine specialist) said that I have 3 options. PT, steroid injections (only temporary relief), and then surgery. I opted for #1. My knee is back to 95%, my shoulder is about 50%. I exercise both regularly - like daily - and this provides me with pretty good relief for now. In a way, I've learned to live with it.
Love it
I think I'm going through this now, been 5 weeks , still limping a little bit, scared to go to Dr to see what I have done to my knee. Any advice on PT ?
You didn't ask me but for what it's worth, don't be afraid to go to the doctor. If you have done something to your knee your body is trying to fix it itself, with or without a doc. It is remodeling the area. You will want to influence the remodeling rather than trying to fix a bigger mess.Go to the doctor to find out the problem. If you get PT, work it as much as you can without it being too much. That is a learning process. Remember docs don't always have terrible news and that might be your situation. And get another opinion if the first one doesn't seem right. Last part of unsolicited and unproven thoughts are to incorporate, if you get pt exercises do some light and careful stretching of the area to increase flexibility to the area as you are regaining strength, that one was critical to my recovery of a grade 3 meniscus tear. Best of luck on your recovery and repair ❤
Good for you! I need to start moving even more.
@@christinehill8326 I did go to the doc first. I would always recommend this. Docs are like lawyers. You can listen to what they have to say, it is up to you whether you accept it and take action or not.
Torn meniscus and my doctor said wait and see what happens. I did and it has gotten so much better. The bodys ability to heal itself is amazing.
Well unless you are a teenager the meniscus didn't heal itself but often the pain does improve. We tell our patients the same thing. Congrats
Wish mine worked that way
@@TalkingWithDocs I am perplexed by this. You are the doctors. I have another 'anecdotal' story. I had annoying, but not terrible pain in the side of my knee. Sometimes it felt like it was going to give out underneath me. Stared when I was about 50yo. I was doing a lot of trail running. I had an MRI and they told me it was a torn meniscus. (Cartilage, right?) I figured I would just have to live with it. About 3 years ago I started taking collagen. Several weeks after that was the last time I felt it. I'm 65, still take collagen almost daily, still run trails and now also do weight lifting and cross fit. I have not felt the "torn" meniscus at all since.
If it wasn't the collagen, . . . what was it that seemed to "heal" it? Was it maybe something other than the meniscus?
@@jimnicholson8969 I also had a torn hip labrum - same fibrocartilage. Dr said there was not enough blood flow for it to heal. (worst pain ever!!) I just kept running. Must have been the increased blood flow from running - many years later and I can hardly remember which hip it was.
Did you do any rehab exercises? My doc has said I have a torn meniscus and to do some exercises to help it.
I have had one hip done. Second waiting… both knees are waiting to be replaced. I was scheduled for Feb 9 this year but chickened out. Love all your I formation. Thanks Docs!
You will know when you're ready
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Google this article (va Google Scholar) titled "Low-grade inflammation as a key mediator of the pathogenesis of osteoarthritis" There is a reason you are having so much trouble. "OA is a disorder of the joint as a whole, with inflammation driving many pathologic changes. The inflammation in OA is distinct from that in rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune diseases: it is chronic, comparatively low-grade, and mediated primarily by the innate immune system. " I'd guess you are suffering from a low-grade chronic inflammation. I discovered I had a low grade response to what I think was the A1 protein in milk. Think hard about what is causing all this. GL.
That is interesting, but a 56yr old was told he needed a hip transplant, so he looked into what else he could do and he changed his diet and cut out all carbohydrates, or foods that cause inflammation, sugar, wheat, corn, barley so on, and within three months he was in no pain and started running, and ride his bike again, a year later he got hit by a car on his bike and had to get an x-ray on the same hip he was told was bone to bone and to the doctors surprise he had grown back his cartilage, so true or not I would give it a go before surgery that has it's own risks.
In 2019 after multiple medial meniscus tears and OA Of knee, Dr Karli at Steadman Clinic in Vail performed stem cell, PRP. (Source-my iliac crests) Not sure it "regrew" my cartilage, but no pain, still skiing, stable knees. In 60s
I have had osteoarthritis for ~ 20 years in one hip,but the other hip is normal. I am grateful I can still walk without significant pain,and am hoping to live long enough to see a cure for my problem. I am taking 750 mg of glucosamine sulfate twice daily,for whatever good it does. I am no worse,so at least my condition is stable. Used to run 15 miles a week,but those days are long gone.
Sorry to hear that
With Chondroitin? That’s essential in my opinion. Also would recommend cutting out sugar, carbs and processed foods.
No,just glucosamine. Chondroitin is commonly derived from cow cartilage,which could come from a sick cow,and give you vCJD. I don't trust those who say they only get it from carefully monitored animals. I@@butreally289
I've been taking chondroitin, glucosamin sulphates since 2008 in hope to support the damaged articular cartilage of the right knee, I'm not experiencing pain. The supplement alleviates pain and slows down the destruction process.
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I absolutely found that it took my pain away too, in fact I couldn’t believe it. It took 2-3 weeks to start to work for me, and as long as I took it consistently I had no pain. If I didn’t take it for a day or two, the pain would return. After a year I also cut out sugar, carbs, processed foods etc., and now don’t need to take the supplements. If I have a carbohydrate binge (Christmas time) I will take Glucosamine & Chondroitin again for a few days.
Great discussion. I have osteoarthritis and have had both knees replaced. My ortho surgeon has advised that at least one shoulder, if not both, will need replacing. I just can’t face that yet and have adapted to the ROM limitations so far.
Before I had knee replacement, I tried PRP. At the time, my surgeon suggested it and there were flyers and posters in his exam room. It was being performed in our community at a physician-owned clinic, not affiliated with my ortho surgeon. It was somewhat expensive, and I was very hopeful. It did not improve my pain or situation and I ended up having TKR. Later that year, I noticed all posters and flyers for the procedure and that facility had been removed from my ortho surgeon’s clinic. I told him I felt it had not improved my situation and he said the group felt it was not something they wanted to recommend to patients any longer. I appreciated him saying that. And I appreciate hearing from you two that it is not effective either. Thanks!
We do our best to share the best available evidence.
Another great video. Thanks 😃
I wish I had read your post back in January. I got all 3 PRP injections in my right knee. Not only has nothing changed with my right knee….the PRP caused a myriad of issues. Bring peri menapause, the PRP caused an entire inflammatory response. I have had bursitis in both hips since the first injection. I could barely move one weekend. But I wanted to give it a chance. Never again. It was so painful. I turned ghost white immediately after my 3rd and final injection from the pain. I could barely walk. My ortho told me to “walk it off”. Nope. My husband and I do CrossFit and I have never experienced that much pain like I did from the PRP injections. Never again.
I saw brochures for QC Kinetix (with endorsement by a famous former football player) at my physical therapy center. I checked into it and there were A LOT of patients who were unhappy with it. Some said the personnel there didn't ask for or look at x-rays that the patients brought with them. Others were put off by the persuasion to sign up for treatments that were expensive and not covered by insurance. Never mind that the treatments didn't help some patients. That was enough to discourage me from trying that approach to my hip pain.
Sensible, verifiable advice. Way better than nonsensical claims playing to our hopes. I had a bad fall trail running 19 months ago, destroying the bursa in my hip. My doctor recommended PT, which I did. I also joined the YMCA (great song) and hired a trainer. My hip is slowly improving, but it is improving. And the rest of my non-injured body feels better than it has in 30 years! So the silver lining to my fall… re-learning the beauty and power of consistent, appropriate exercise! Move to the best of your ability, as much as you can. And watch ‘Talking With Docs’!
Just for clarification to others, a bursa is external to the joint and is not a cartilage tissue. For the most part, a burse is a tissue that cushions one tissue from another, such as a tendon from a bone (for example, the patellar bursa under the tendon that attaches your kneecap to your lower leg bone). Once damaged, they can swell significantly. If the swelling puts pressure on pain sensitive tissue, you will experience pain. If the swelling does not put pressure on anything, they may be uncomfortable, but not necessarily painful in the traditional sense of pain.
Great comment! Yes watch Talking With Docs - “How To Grow Cartilage. Can We Actually Do It?” (Spoiler - nope, not really - but there is some hope)
Bursa damage can be healed with PBM treatment (photobiomodulation). Check out the research reviewed in the Bioflex RUclips podcast on this topic.
Thanks!
Thank you very much !
I have been playing tennis most of my life and started having knee problems in my 40's. Supplements haven't been doing anything for me but I started using castor oil and I must say it dramatically helped my knees. It absorbs quickly into the skin and helps for a number of other things.
Thank you so much
Need to know what does it do
@@atadali9711 It has ant inflammatory properties and it absorbes quickly onto the skin and bones, lubricating it. Just type what castor oil can be used for in RUclips and Google and you will be amazed how many uses there are for it and the testaments from people using it.
castro oil has drastically helped my knee pain@@atadali9711
I’ve added cayenne pepper and frankincense essential oil to mine. Warmed the oil with the cayenne, then added the frankincense drops. I also use comfrey (aka bone knitter; repairs tissues and bones) prior to the castor oil mix. I’ve had amazing results.
PRP treatment stops knee arthritis and degeneration by 15-20 yrs if you catch it early enough prior to bone on bone
I’ve had arthritis for at least 50 years (psoriatic) but now also have osteoarthritis. Ten years ago I had my left basal thumb joint replaced but I don’t want any additional surgery. The key for me is managing symptoms and managing expectations. I’m not going to get younger and there will always be a bit of pain somewhere. That’s life.
Agree
Try a carnivore diet. I’m off methotrexate and ran 10 miles several times this year with joint damage in my toes and feet. Almost no pain. It works. Just try it. Best of luck.
My husband is 72 and has had psoriatic arthritis for his whole life. He's been on all the heavy immune suppressant drugs but stopped them and has been on a carnivore diet for 2 months with great improvement.
Vitamin D3 plus k2, Organic algae oil for omega 3, 20 min exposure to sunlight in summer, going out at lunchtime in winter builds bones and joints. Entzündungen gehen langsam weg. So wurde ich meine jahrelange schuppenflechte an den knien los.
A new medical technology is a collagen matrix made from fish skin (North Atlantic Cod) that is decellularized with a mild detergent and re-cellularized using autologous fluids, then implanted in the joint. Not re-growing the cartilage back, but providing a possible solution that is the next best thing to re-growing cartilage.
I heard that the reason doctors believe that cartilage can not grow back is because it doesn't have a blood supply. The repair has to be done through the bursa. Movement of the joint causes the movement of the fluid through the bursa, and through that process is how cartilage gets nutrients to be repaired. Could this be the reason that doctors believe cartilage can not be repaired? Is it likely that the healing of cartilage is a slow process requiring the special case of movement, which is interpreted as the cartilage does not grow back? It seems unlikely that it is impossible for cartilage not to grow back since it is constantly being destroyed and needs to be replaced. Maybe solutions are not being found because the medical system is looking in the wrong places and only trying to solve it with drugs and surgery and not something more simple such as movement, providing space in the joint, and aligning the structure of the body. If no studies have been done or there are no resources for a study that would not result in a way for the support of a studies outcome leading to compensation of the sponsor of the study, then it is likely that simple solutions for health will not be studied or proven at least not in the US medical system, and therefore, many simple inexpensive solutions may be overlooked. Cartilage can be proven to grow back if it found that it is possible, but it can not be proven that it can not grow back. I agree you that supplements are not necessarily going to help or be the cure for arthritis, especially if you body does not lack the ingredient in the supplement in the first place.
The secondary problem which is sometimes primary is... loss of muscle and structure around the knee. Especially as one ages. Important to hike up elevation vs just walking
You got it, meniscus tears heal most of the time, use a staionary bike and keep walking.
Accurate we can heal everything
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Yes, you're right - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The accurate statement is not "cartilage cannot grow back" but it is "we lack evidence of cartilage growing back." And I concur about movement. Especially micro-movement.
I am now retired but was a plumbing/heating tech for 29 years. Everyday on my knees working on furnaces, drains, etc. Developed osteo arthritis in my right hip. Xrays from 10 years ago showed mid to advanced stage. The pain was not as bad since retirement....but since retirement I started playing more golf and admittedly drinking more with friends. This twisting of the hips playing golf and poor eating habits caused the arthritic hip to really act up over the last few years. Walking one block was painfull, hiking was out of the question. Sleeping was uncomfortable and the only way to golf was to take a few Advil to get me through. A few friends have had hip replacement and said it was the only way to go.
Well, I'm a bit stubborn and decided to look into other methods. I started a diet of no sugar, very little carbs. I ate mainly meats and veg. Cut down on alcohol severely. Got back into weightlifting focusing heavily on leg strength and hip muscles. Took supplements of glucosamine with chondriton / msm, and tumeric. Had blueberries in my protien shakes after my workouts to cleanse the body.
Just making these changes, I started noticing a difference within 1 month. I am now into my 2nd month and have noticed the following changes. NO more discomfort when I sleep. I now go on 3km walks with my wife and dog relitively pain free. I am now leg pressing 300 pounds. I find myself walking with a limp at times when I am not in pain. It became such a habbit with the pain, but now I am 80% pain free. I can make the bed in the morning without hobbling around. If these are the improvements in a month and a half, I look forward to the next year. Maybe I have not completely rebuilt any cartilidge, but being mobile and mostly pain free is great!! Give it a try and don't give up!!!
I was feeling so excited at the beginning of this video since I'm trying to avoid a hip replacement at 60 years old. One day at a time for me!
I feel bad for you. Misleading title. Same old story
When this popped up in my feed, I got all excited thinking there was something new that I had missed. Reality check. Good lever on the hucksters. Happy New Year to all!
I have been told by two orthopedic doctors that i needed a knee replace. Both times exercise and physical therapy got rid of most of the pain. The therapies told sometime she can help and sometime its too far gone.
Nice
I tore the cartilage in my knee in the not-too-distant past, and the doctor suggested it might be worth trying Platelet-Rich Plasma. Insurance wouldn't cover it because it was "experimental", but because the cost wasn't outrageous (~$300) I opted to have it done and pay for it myself. In my case I did see apparent mending of the tear and was satisfied that it was worth it. I will note that the doctor told me it wouldn't work on joints with arthritis occurring in them.
It seems like the too often the greater problem is the damage done by our own bodies to ourselves, and this is one more example of autoimmune responses that we would do well too see medicine cure. If we could control that, a whole host of problems such as diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and even transplant rejection might be controlled.
There's a guy on YT whose doctor told him he needs a hip replacement, he fixed it and grew back cartilage on his own by changing his diet getting rid of sugar and alcohol. He was a runner and now he's back running again in his fifties or so.
I watched that.
I seen that too,fascinating❗️
@@Now7518hi.where can I see that?
can you write the name of the channel or creator please?
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How refreshing! Two informed doctors speaking clearly and honestly. No flim flam. With all the push to sell supplements, it's impossible to get anything resembling 'facts'. Thanks gentlemen! .
Welcome. We don't sell anything. It's too bad nothing works but maybe some day
You sell surgery
@@gerscheeve297Exactly.
No, they are not pushing supplements but they are still certainly pushing surgeries, which is why the medical establishment refuses to look seriously at any therapy other than their money pot. They is no evidence that anything else works because they won’t do research on anything that doesn’t make lots of money! Several comments here suggest success with other methods.
The first time my right knee dislocated was when I was 12 years old. It has continued to dislocate sporadically throughout the years with me having to relax, take Motrin, and gradually pop it back in. The last time was almost a year ago and the first time I had to call for help because the muscles were spasming so much the pain became too much for me to push in by myself. I had one paramedic yank my leg and the other pushed it back in. I'm 63 and of thin build, and very flexible. Watching your video it never occurred to me that I may have a cartilage issue. Thank you!
Sounds like Ehlers Danlos syndrome. I have it and have dislocated my right knee a few times. It’s awful!
@@ascolari How interesting. I bought a brace and I'm very careful about not bending my right knee for fear of it happening. Maybe I should look into this. Thank you!
sounds like you have ligament laxity in that knee since it was dislocated (that stretched it out) Prolotherapy can tighten up your ligament. Fixed my ankles in 2 shots.
I find the notion of regrowing/losing cartilage to be misleading. Osteoarthritis is the result of an imbalance in the rate of cartilage loss and cartilage creation. The disease involves accelerated metabolic processes that cause increased turnover and destruction exceeding replacement. It normally takes about 800 days to completely turn over the cartilage in the femoral head. So it is slow growing. But It is not the case that you carry the same cartilage you developed growing up throughout your life. It is conceivable that diet and lifestyle might have considerable influence on the homeostasis of joint cartilage. But more investigation is needed to fully understand what can be done to prevent cartilage loss. It's not like fingers and livers and spinal cord. Cartilage is composed of substances secreted by cells in the ends of bones, not of cells per-se.
When I was first given my diagnosis of severe arthritis in my hip - based on an xray and my symptoms I was in shock. I did not want surgery. I asked why can't they just shoot some cartilage in there. Thankfully no one tried to sell me any gimmicks - supplements or blood mixtures. Surgery is the only thing that works. It has its risks - but is better than the alternative of being unable to walk. Thanks for this video - it confirms what I learned this last year and a half.
Very welcome
What they didn't say is a good many people who have hip surgery wind up permanently in a wheelchair.
@@Merrymaid woow, who told you this stupid shit?
Had most of cartilage removed from both knees 10 years apart...yup I was a lab rat....I know people now whose torn cartilage scarred over and their knee is doing fine - thoughts? And I loved your presentation and your sense of humor!
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I really appreciate your honesty. I'm 71 and have knee arthritis and have been told I need both knees replaced. I am active inspite of my pain sometimes walking over 12,000 steps per day although my average is probably 7000 to 10,000. I am too chicken to take the plunge. I have heard good outcomes and I have heard the horror stories. I may have to do it someday but as long as I can walk without excruciating pain I will troop on.
I had both replaced at age 60. A good outcome is the result of a good surgeon and doing the Physical Therapy diligently! It hurts but you have to move that joint.
I love these guys plus they address a lot of medical problems. Sometimes they’ll have a specialist of other parts of your body.
We do our best. Have some great guests coming this month
When you said we’re not gonna slam any particular product I thought you were going to continue with we’re just gonna slam them all. Keep up the good work. Stay safe.
We thought about that!
Exactly, Lol.
My n=1 experiment stage 3/4 chondromalation in both knees diagnosed 20 years ago. Recent ultra sound showed no chondromolation. What I did in the meantime: strength training (full range of motion barbell squats) and frequent intermittent fasting ranging from 16 yo 72 hours. Plus periodically Keto diet.
Thanks for sharing. Ultrasound would not be considered a reliable way to diagnose this. But who cares if you feel good. Keep it going
very good point. Performance is the key factor. But I will consider MRI just to have a clear view. Initially it was diagnosed with MRI so I agree to compare, we should use the same diagnostic tool.@@TalkingWithDocs
I really appreciate this video. I was watching all those other videos promoting supplements that they claim regrow cartilage but after watching your video I now know the truth. Thank you for that.
Omg guys, lol😂😂😂 that was so funny. That’s the end of the show My husband and I absolutely love watching your show. Informative, expertise, and you two have a great sense of humour.
Thanks so much!
Thanks for this video. It has very appropriate timing for me as I'm going in for the first of 2 knee replacement surgeries in 3 days and I was wondering about Stem cell and PRP treatments, and your video answered all my questions. Thanks again.
Wishing you all the best!
How are you doing?
how are you now
Blue tail clinic, in St Louis, restored my knees. Blood, fat and bone marrow is taken from the patient. Stem cells are retrieved from the centrifuge and injected into the knee. I have had this procedure twice (six years apart) with success.
I too had this done, but 8 weeks in my knees hurt worse than when I started, plus their communication sucks! 😮
The glucosamine + chondroitin works for my knees. It doesn't repair or grow cartilage, but the stuff was like a miracle to me. I couldn't hardly walk, like Fred Sanford at best. After about a week, I was walking without pain at all. When I recommend it to someone, I tell them if it doesn't work in a couple of weeks, it probably is not going to help you. It is worth a try.
Thanks for sharing !
Doctors can't make their mortgage payments when you take supplements
That stuff didn’t work for me at all, tried it and took it for years, different brands, didn’t matter because it didn’t work. I had both hips replaced with my last one just 2 years ago because I no longer could sit in a chair and then get up from a sitting position and put any weight on that leg for at least 5 minutes when I had to lean on the table standing on one leg, not being able to straighten the leg with the bum hip because the pain was so excruciating that I can’t even describe it! I sometimes had my husband get the walker when I limped into the bedroom to lay down on the bed in order to straighten my leg which hurt so bad trying to do that that it made me cry because of the pain. I also could no longer drive, nor could I get out of the car without hanging on the car door for about 5 minutes after I stood up out of the car seat, standing only on my good leg, unable to put any weight on the bad one or straightening it. I carried crutches and my walker with me so I could use either one and slowly start walking with one of them until I was able to walk on my own again, limping into our apartment. Both of my hips were bone on bone and looked like the rats had chewed on them, at least that’s what my doc said, I also had very large bone spurs on each joint and cysts as well which caused the worst pain I had ever experienced in my life and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I was really stupid with my second hip replacement for waited as long as did having it fixed. My ortho surgeon had warned against waiting when I asked him if I could perhaps wait another year pushing the surgery back because I knew what I was in for from my first replacement and tried to avoid my second surgery as long as I possibly could to which he replied saying that I didn’t have another year because of the way my hip looked and that the quality of life would greatly diminish if I didn’t move ahead with the surgery right now, but I got I was blindsided by his news of setting me up for surgery which I had not expected, so I didn’t listen to him and didn’t do what he wanted me not to do, BIG MISTAKE on my part and boy was he ever right!!! So if you need a joint replaced, don’t do like I did and wait until you can’t walk anymore and have to use a walker or crutches because you will be in excruciating pain, believe me I have very high pain tolerance and don’t cry easy, but that pain crushed me, it’s not a joke, get it done and over with!!! I now walk completely normal, I am perfectly even and the best past is that I am pain free! 👍😊
Not a supplement in the world was going to help you, God Bless. You had way too bad of damage. Thank your lucky stars the hip replacements worked out for you. My MIL, God rest her soul, she had hip replacements that didn't work out so well for her. I know quite a few people that have nightmare stories about shoulder and knee replacements. Everyone is different, what works for one may not work for another, and I think you are correct about waiting too long. Now that stuff that helped me, in my case was just my knees. I'm sure it's not a cure, but if it keeps me going for now, I'm grateful. That is why if I recommend it to anyone, I tell them it's worth a try, give it a couple of weeks. If it doesn't give them any relief, then it's not worth it, they have too much damage.@@gj9736
@@jthonn You are right saying that Glucosamine/Chondroitin works for some but not for others, my ortho even had me on it but like I said it did not do a thing for me, I tried the different kinds they have but it didn’t matter. I waited to long with my second hip replacement because I thought I could possibly avoid surgery which was being delusional on my part. I had my hips done anterior which is easier with less restrictions and faster ability to walk again. You actually have to relearn walking, using the walker first, then the cane and then on your own, physical therapy is also one thing you have to do, I had my surgery done in the am and was discharged by 5 pm going home with having to see my surgeon the very next day in the morning after my first session of PT, it was rough because I was extremely tired and still sort of groggy from the surgery the day before. They now throw you out of the hospital the same day after your surgery which wasn’t the case with my first hip when my ortho kept me 3 days in it but that was like 8 years before my second surgery. I am glad Glucosamine works for you and I hope it will continue to do so, I thought I could escape surgery but that didn’t happen unfortunately.
You two are hilarious together and yes, I love the content but how you explain this stuff makes me grin. Thank you.
Well that's the goal Sarah!
I had a torn Meniscus in my left knee 9 years ago and had it repaired. At that time I was told by my surgeon that I would need both knee Replaced within the next 5 years, I was only 58.
Started taking collagen twice a day, lost 30 lbs and began strength training 3 times a week.
I'm now 67 and knees feel strong and don't give me any problems. Probably not just one thing but the combo worked for me.
Some doctors love to recommend surgeries. Thankfully, you realized that you did not need them.
Happy New Year 🎊. I have been waiting for this video. Dec 2021, I had an MRI that “ Focal 10mm high grade chondral defect. I had surgery to “clean up” the defect. My surgeon recommended Lipogem stem cell procedure at the same time as my surgery. My surgeon said, “he had patients that it had helped and I want to delay you from having Shoulder Replacement surgery”. He never claimed that it regenerated cartilage. Post-Op 2 years, my symptoms and pain are gone.
That's cool
❤An amazing video! You both are so correct ❤My boyfriend paid &2500.00 to get stem cells put into his knee. Not only was it very painful but it didn’t work. He felt it made his knee worse. Eventually he went for a knee replacement. Thank You both for your videos and honesty ❤ Much appreciated and blessings to You Both ❤
I know of two cases where stem cells inserted into the knees worked perfectly: two men, nearly 70 yrs old, 4 knees, not a painful process at all, excellent results - men back to sports activities, MR proved (before and 1 year after insertion) new cartillage. So, what say you? A “miracle”?🤷♂️
Can you remember where he got it done and how old was he? Also, if you know, where did they get the stem cells from? Bone marrow, adipose, umbilical...
Got knee problems and contemplating my options. Every piece of info helps
I just had three procedures done on my knee recently and one of them was the abrasion arthroplasty. I had never heard of it before but apparently this was needed behind the patella as there was no more cartilage there at all - at least that is what the post-operation notes stated. Thank you two for explaining and for the analogies. I am sitting and waiting to recuperate from the operation. Watching this video was helpful and reminds about why this operation was worth it.
Could I ask how you are doing. My dr has told me I needed this done and I'm so shared.
@@MarySmith-i8q Sure. Because I had three procedures done, the healing will take longer so I may be back to normal activity in 4 weeks. 🙏 S is my second week and I am making progress in my healing. The knee is still swollen and it is difficult to bend more than 90 degrees. But, I am working on bending and straightening it out every day and I see results. I am also able to put my full weight on that leg without pain but it feels wobbly and not secure. My physical therapy will start on Saturday. I wish I could have started physical therapy last week but there was no availability. It does get better. You just need to have patience with your body and give it time to heal. What exactly are you getting operated for?
@@Lorax4good I'm so glad you're feeling better and it gives me some hope! I have a torn meniscus and chondromalacia. Apparently I have damaged cartilage from my patella not "tracking" correctly. I keep listening to RUclips videos about people who feel worse after surgery and I'm scaring myself. I really need to hear a success story.
@@MarySmith-i8q I agree. There are many angles and perspectives on this subject that it can be quite offsetting. Especially around whether surgery is need for torn meniscus. But, with Chodromalacia, surgery is necessary. The sooner the better because as long as you are moving your legs, the bone to bone contact wears away in that area. Although the surgery was by endoscopic surgery, the work done inside is a major cleaning out of the broken pieces of cartilage and the fix needed on the patella. So you should expect some time for healing. I had water on the knee twice within two weeks a month before my surgery which is a reason why my knee looked like a softbal for almost two weeks. The knee already got used to that swelling but now it is going down. The crutches allowed me to get around as I did not need to put my full weight on it. I started working out again, upper body mostly. This evening I dared to exercise my hips and calves without jeapordizing my knee. Getting better overall.
I was told 7 years ago I would need to have surgery because of a severe tear on my meniscus. I was told it would never heal and would not be able to run again. I started bone broth I made myself and also purchased powered bone broth. I also purchased a knee therapy brace which increased book circulation. I continued strength training and religiously used an infrared sauna. 7 months later I was running 3-5 miles 2X a week. 7 years later…no sign of the tear. Can’t generalize for limitations over everyone. I’m 50 years old.
Great video!! I just had hip replacement. Need to have the other one done too. If I had known I was going to live this long I'd have taken better care of myself!!!
Thanks for doing this video. Unfortunately there are way too many snake oil salesmen out in the internet world today selling absolute garbage and nonsense. We need more people like you to set the record straight.
It is rampant. Supplements. Real estate. Crypto. You name it. Its scary
True! I totally agree. I bought lots of "supplements to grow" my cartilage, but they never worked. I am glad I ran into this video.
Just heard an older man that prevented a total hip operation and he did grow cartilage, our bodies are amazing. There forever I don’t think you guys are spewing your knowledge but this guy had proof !
We would love to see the proof. It has not been shown yet and if it were true it would be documented. He may feel better. But didn't grow cartilage.
@@TalkingWithDocs I think I saw that guy's video. Hard to believe her re-grew cartilage.
@@CarlaQuattlebaum Can you share the Video please?
@@shukrullahadnan3906 I'd have to dig to find it again. I believe he was from England. I'm more likely to believe the two docs who don't believe he really grew cartilage.
I saw it to, cearly you can regrow it, as far as to listening to those non drs, if not for word of mouth I would never have cured my Lyme which a dr said I couldn’t have so went untreated for years if suffering! Sometimes medical drs will not keep an open mind and cause years of pain and damage.
Guess what cured me? Ivermectin.
New Cartilage, YES! I had my cartilage town off in my ankle. I was told I could have an operation, take cartilage from another area of my body, and graft it on, my right ankle. I chose the 2nd choice, wearing boots for the rest of my life. I was interested in supplements but this was 1981 and I just turned 30. I've studied the natural way of healing since around that time. During those years I had to wear boots or I could sprain my right ankle very easily or even worse so I had to be careful. In 1985 I read about 'shark cartilage'. I read that sharks don't get cancer and they don't have a bone structure skeleton but that organ is actually made of cartilage. I decided to give the fine powdered shark cartilage in a capsule a try because of the no-cancer topic about sharks. After about 6 or 8 months of taking the shark cartilage daily, I realized my right ankle which had lost the outer cartilage seemed about the same strength and stability as my left ankle. I decided to start just wearing loafers around the house to see how that would go. I found that my right ankle was fine. Fast forward to 2024; I haven't worn boots at all in at least 8 years and even when I did wear boots I only wore boots because I needed them for what I was doing. By the 1990s my right ankle was completely healed, it had new cartilage grown in. I can't explain it but I tell everyone when it comes up of this miracle. Yes, I have been taking a lot of vitamins and supplements so something like D3 or Magnesium or many other supplements may have helped this process. And, yes, 99.9% of the time I just wear shoes like everyone, no shoes in the house, and no high-tops, and I don't even think about it, my ankle hasn't been reinjured like twisting it, it's normal.
I almost forgot I stopped taking the shark cartilage mainly because I didn't think I needed it after my right ankle cartilage grew back from consuming the shark cartilage capsules. I take other supplements for anti-cancer. One is Curcumin/Turmeric with Ginger. India has a low occurrence of cancer in its citizens and yes, there are many positive medical studies on Curcumin's anti-cancer effects. M.D. Anderson Cancer Center (#2 for cancer in the USA) has done many of the studies but they can't make any money from prescribing supplements and herbs. They know of it's working, maybe to try to synthesize its natural chemical makeup?
One more thing. I also had my medial meniscus torn out on the interior of my right knee in the mid-70s. The surgeon talked me into cutting the mushroomed meniscus out since it was torn badly. My right knee would pop out of place when walking and it could happen easily. I found just doing an air kick with my right leg usually popped it back. Doing that was an everyday thing. I think the right knee is about 90% now and hardly ever pops out but it did a while back one time only. Hang in there. God is good, He's always good and nothing else. Really! Thank you, Jesus!
Thanks for sharing your experience
Awesome testimonial. We do need more research to this so we don't have to wait 100 years from now. Bone broth - I like the Korea version of it, it's yummy - would be full of dissolved cartilage in it. It's a good place to start for anyone willing to do research. Perhapls kelp and seaweedas well.
So are u suggesting taking shark cartilage powder for arthritis?
Lol yeah right!
Please dont eat animals
I read a study that was done by Harvard that was talking about chicken broth for cartilage generation. I’m not a doctor, but I’ve heard it more than once
Interesting but we have not seen that evidence
Great video. You guys are doing a great thing debunking some of the misinformation on the net.
There is a similar problem with statins.
I was told that walking on the treadmill on an incline of 3.0 (not higher) is better for the knees than flat and it has been working well for me despite prior pain. I do 30 minutes or more 6 days a week and I feel better.
You were told the correct thing. If you train on a treadmill you can get a better workout for your heart and your joints by increasing the angle and not the speed. KEEP MOVING. NEVER GIVE UP
And walk or climb hills backward.
At age 47 I had significant plantar fascietis ans knee pain. Went to physical therapy. Doctor took x-rays said my knee cartilage is almost gone. I learned some exercises at PT and joined a gym, got a trainer. Also I got a physical job that involves miles of walking everyday. I treated the plantar with a lacrosse ball roll every night. That went away almost immediately. The knee pain took about a year. I no longer have the trainer. I now perform squats almost daily as well as other leg exercises. No knee pain. No supplements. I attribute it to strengthening the muscles. At age 54, I think I figured it out. We'll see. I know that if I stop going to the gym, or exercising, the pain returns. I have taken glucosamine chondroitin before but it made me tired and didn't seem to help. I have no idea if my cartilage is back. Probably not. Good video. Thanks
Of You don't eat sugar and bread...and things that make inflamation in body, the whole body regenerate. Olso You cam take suplements tonrecover well and the cartilaje will grow! Take care! And search for other clips in You tube about sugar and medicin like what i have now "joint support" made in sweden.
I tore the miniscus in my left knee. Dr ordered an. MRI. Sent me to surgeon .
Surgeon said he could fix it in 15-20 minutes.
I said "how could you do that?"
He said he would shave off the rough edges and the miniscus wouldn't hurt so bad, bad that I would have to have knee replacement surgery in a couple of years.
I said "no thanks. "
Want home and prayed to God for healing and told my stem cells to go into the knee and regrow the cartiledge.
Believe it or not, that happened.
That was in 2019, and I still have a pain-free knee.
God's answer was wonderful!
Beth Ann Mckean, now 82 year old.
Well better start praying for world peace since ypu're so good at it lady!
Why would you lie on the internet? It’s illegal to do so.
I am now 83 and my knee is still healed pain free! Jehovah God is the Creator of all things through Jesus Christ can heal anything. @Gandalf726
I believe you Beth. I was told by an Ortho. doctor in the 1970's that I should have a knee replacement for chondromalacia. I was in my 20's and was a practical nurse. Bending my knees every day.
Over time the pain stopped, and of course I had said no way to the knee replacement.
I am now 72 years old and still have both knees, and work PT doing home care for seniors. I'm also a Christian, and have been healed more than once in answer to prayer. God is good. God is real, to those who are reconciled to Him. John 3:16-21
As someone in their early 20s, I really hope regenerative medicine will be advanced enough for us to regenerate all sorts of organs by the time by body starts to break down in my 30s.
I have been helping my pain by managing it with exercises. I do TaiChi, QiGong, brisk walk, stretching, dancing. I don’t take any medication. Movement has been helping me for years. I hope everyone out there finds a method that helps them successfully to manage their pain. Everyone is different and no two persons are alike. Namaste🙏🏽🌈☀️
I have just found out that I have knee osteoarthritis. Have had a painful medial for the last 6 months wrongly diagnosed as a meniscus tear. The pain is excruciating. I have been a regular exerciser but the last six months have seen sporadic activity. I am happy that I can be active. Thanks for the hope
Love your videos and love the fact that y'all wont critique some of the commercials for cartilage repair, but it sure would be funny. Would appreciate source evidence links though. I might take your word that what you say is evidence based, but you know... I participated in a PRP knee injection study years ago; it definitely helped reduce pain, and extend my ability to play volleyball by a couple of years, but never really found out what the study results found out. Did finally get a full knee replacement end of last year, and wish I had done it years ago. Thank you for doing what you do!
Very welcome. Like we said some studies have shown pain reduction. ZERO have shown regrowth of cartilage. Maybe some day
This is good to know. I’ve got a good orthopedic surgeon onboard to replace my hip, but I have been “benevolently” gaslit by people at physical therapy organizations who told me I could re-build my body to whatever state I was in, prior to the damage to my hip-joint.
Yes it complicated out there
Any legit PT will know you can’t regrow articular cartilage.
Your video was quite informative and clears up some misinformation that I have seen and heard. I have a frayed meniscus in my left knee and was given many options that others have noted. Thankfully, through strengthening and stretching, I have been able to manage pain and remain quite active while holding off surgery option. I will be watching for the medical advancements you noted. Thank you!
Wow, I give you guys a gold star for truth. I'm taking Boron, MSM, Hyleuronic Acid, Cilica, to help with my symptoms, to reduce inflammation as I want to escape a double knee replacement. I found your video by searching for knee exercises. Now I'm doing PT at home. But the pain has gotten so bad. Where is a good clinic or institute in Phoenix? Enjoy your presentation. Excellent. (aa)
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Notes:
1) the individuals (doctors) in the video are wearing surgical outfits as if they are about to conduct a surgery or have just completed a surgery (I suspect they put their surgical outfits on specifically to create this video).
2) They seem like good guys and I suspect they are excellent surgeons or body mechanics in their orthopedic specialties. it would be interesting to know more about their practices and results and/or statistics . Where is this information linked up to support their claims distilled down into lay terms.
3) Watch this video multiple times and you realize anecdotally “if I’m a hammer everything looks like a nail”.
Conclusion
Doctors provide important services for their patients and communities thankfully; but don’t ever forget they are products of the system and have traversed narrow pathways designed to reenforce their views (and subsequent lifestyles) .
They focus their words on a scientific approach though often times don’t indicate their sources or the funding of those sources.
They are one point on a continuum of knowledge imho.
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Thanks doctors! When people make these claims of regrowing cartilage, I have been skeptical. You have confirmed it.
Doing our best
Some local scammer doctors here are charging thousands of dollars for entirely unproven stem cell 'treatment' of arthritis.
yep, the surgeons need money,what do you think? There are other doctors who tell you is possible.
The crickets cracked me up, said it all. Thanks.
I was a runner then a jogger then a walker and my knee pain just got worse, I had injections, I did excersises and started riding a bicycle and the deterioration of my knees continued, if you are fortunate enough to get relief from whatever you do for your arthritis thank god, but l’m getting a knee replacement.
Research studies on NIH/NLM, done in 2016, on use of Undenatured Native Type 2 Collagen for Knees study. I’m all for symptom reduction. This supplement took 4 months to notice hip pain reduction.
I have also noted bone on bone subcalcaneal joint arthritis on X-rays prior to 2 PRP/Umbilical Core Stem Cell injections. 5 years later, comparing initial heel axial view X-rays. There is now a slight joint space. I have regained 75% ROM, and relatively pain free symptoms (I have spurring that interferes with the peroneal tendon.) Going on year 6 with no return of pain symptoms
Also, 2 PRP injections (no stem cells) were injected into each knee (one injection into each knee.) Again, 6 years now and still no knee pain. I’m 59 now and no history of sports, but I have Calcium Pyrophostate Deposition as a result of Hereditary Hemochromatosis. Stem Cells and/or PRP injections have really helped improve my pain management with minimal NSAIDS dependance.
Thank you for looking out for us!!
Always!
Great Video. Being in my 70's and lifting at the local gym 4 days a week plus 2 days of cardio biking I have had very good success with PT on my arthritic right knee. (had a torn meniscus of the inner r. knee about a year ago). The simple act of making sure that my structure is aligned correctly when working out on leg day, and lifting moderate weights like 180 lbs on the squat machine, (which helps me keep everything aligned) and doing high reps (5 sets of 35 reps) along with biking on off days keeps pain away and makes my knees more flexible, (along with stretching) . Of course like a doctor friend once said to me, "It all works until it doesn't. I think that sometimes we under estimate PT along with the body's ability to adapt.
Nice work
So true
Hyaluronic acid knee injections have worked great for my knee osteoarthritis. Also wear knee compression sleeves to keep the knee joints aligned.
Knee injections won’t work for everyone. I didn’t get any relief. 😢
Hyaluronic knee injections 10+ years with bone on bone knees. The injections work great for me
HA injections work great on the knee I injured and had arthoscopied. Although I think I still had quite a bit of good cartilage after arthoscopy was done to remove a small broken piece.
It is true, but doctors usually nowadays take a personalized treatment approach where they might suggest knee injections with Hyaluronic acid, exosomes, and in some cases stem cells as well.
I did both knee cartilage repair using stem cell, but the surgeon had to drill the bone first (microfracture) and then regular injections of Stem cell + Hyaluronic acid, now I can cycle and run again with little issue
. 15 years ago in my 40's I was very active , running , tennis everything and my knees very sore and always throbbing all week . I started taken Glucosamine ....My family Doctor said there was some scientific evidence that it helped joints . It has gave me great relief for 15 years. I NOt perfect and can t play tennis on hard court like i use to BUT I still to this date in my 60's .... NOT as much pain i did in my 40's . Maybe you cant regrow cartilage ....but i think what you have left .....you can keep it healthy or tougher or more gelly or something like that. Good luck to all.
i take glucosamine and i have more pain.
First I’d like to say how enjoyable and informative you two doctors make the information. Thank you. Both my knees have been in bad shape for a long time. Tylenol helps. I really don’t want replacement though. Am I causing more problems by not having the joint replacement?
Welcome. And no not necessarily. If you can live with it we will always say delay
Thanks for the advice about delay. My siblings are always urging me to get total knee replacements. I think my knees bother them more than they bother me. Sometimes I walk like a drunk cowboy, but I can also hike 7 miles, swim 4 miles, and bicycle 50 miles.
Loved how you went through the list of supplements that could grow new cartilage😊
On a more serious note however, my belief is that vibration, healthy diet and believing in ones ability to self heal can make miracles
I CANNOT understand with all the wonderful materials and resources that we have on this planet that we cannot to some degree manufacture or 3D print a meniscus, it's just a filler between the two bones and it's a padding and that should be easily replaced. Or take it from a cadaver. I just don't understand why that can't be done, and this topic is made to be MORE COMPLICATED than it needs to be.
Good point! They can even make biological structures in 3d printing so it might not even need to be plastic. Even if they could take some stem cells and grow it and implant it and I dunno scrape the bone top so it adheres perhaps. Looks like something they must be trying to donsonewhere. Especially aince sports people have thus problem and there's so much money in sports these days.
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Check out the video they did do it!!! Haha!
MEFISTO. It's an EU wide collaboration to engineer a solution to a torn or partially removed meniscus. There making great progress and begin clinical trials in this year I believe.Check it out online
I started taking a supplement that says it can regrow cartilage and now 2 years later my knees are hugely better. I can walk without pain most of the time.
What's the name of the supplement, please?
Thank you for a valuable moment listening to doctors. Can you imagine how poor people are preyed upon by vendors selling supplements claiming cartilage regeneration! What you just produced is very valuable.
Myself,73, I have let my knees go so long, that there is no longer any cartilage. I also have Venous Statous, with Venous Statous skin on my lower legs. Because of that and the risk of blood clots and infection, I have put off knee replacements on both knees. I can still shuffle around, but walking any length is almost impossible. My primary doctors seems to think I can do knee replacement. My orthopedic doctors I've seen say it quite risky, but might do it. Plus I don't want to give up months of my life for rehab, and the additional pain that will go with knee replacement. Bluntly I am very scared to proceed with surgery. I've had cortisone shots, and gel shots, which only offers maybe a month of relief of pain, but doesn't help the walking or strength in my legs. I'm just quite depressed with life and I have no other options but to eventually be in a wheel chair. Really gets me down. So bad wish there was a better way to deal with this.
Sorry to hear this. Hope you get healthy enough for surgery. Best of luck
Oh my! The least I can do is offer up a prayer! I truly hope things work out for you! 🙏
I feel for you, I hope you can get some relief.
Hi JamesPN7JF 🤗 I am 65 years old and have leukaemia (10th yr) and an inoperable brain aneurism. I had open heart surgery with so many complications afterwards that a year later I still cannot return to work more than a few hours a day 3 times a week. I have to work, as I have been a widow for 25 years and have little savings. I have had severe arthritis for the last 20 years, especially in my knees and ankles. For the last 10 years I have been lucky enough to have had yearly cortisone injections in my knees which practically made me pain free, but now they don’t work any more. I know how lucky I am that they lasted that long . Plus I cannot take anti inflammatories anymore because of my heart. I cannot have blood transfusions as I am allergic to blood products, and my blood doesn’t clot because of the leukaemia and generally I am a mess. My doctors call me “medically challenging”! I also have no cartilage left whatsoever, just bone grinding on bone and my orthopaedic surgeon says that my bones are also deformed now. Knowing that my leukaemia has greatly shortened my life expectancy, I used to swear that I wouldn’t bother with having knee replacements. That was when the cortisone worked and I could take daily anti inflammatories. Now the pain is excruciating and my mobility is so limited that I have decided to go through with the operation in a few months once my heart strong enough. I too am depressed sometimes with the hand that life has dealt me, but, unless I choose to help myself, all that will happen is that I will get gradually worse and I don’t want to end up in a wheelchair or hobbling around with a walker. I wasn’t worried before I went in for my heart operation because I only had a few weeks to live if my valve wasn’t replaced and I went into theatre with great confidence, and even a year of hell afterwards has still not altered my opinion that I was very lucky. However a knee replacement scares the s*** out of me. What scares me most though is being a cripple, so I’m just going to have to suck it up and take the chance that it will improve my life. I’m not telling you this so you can feel sorry for me, I’m just saying that if you have options, even if things are not great as far as the rest of your health is concerned, you should really reach out and grasp them and make your remaining years as comfortable as possible. Find a great orthopaedic surgeon that will look at all your issues, and who will work with your other doctors/specialists in advance to make sure that everything it’s taken into consideration, and planned for ahead of your surgery. You deserve to live out the rest of your days as pain-free as possible, and with a decent amount of mobility. Wishing you all the very best xxx
@james-np7f I'm in exactly the same situation - can only shuffle around the house. Haven't been out of my house for the last 1 year since I cannot walk more than a few steps without pain. I'm only 47. Surgery is not an option for me also due to different reasons. I tried collagen peptides but didnt do anything for me even after 5 months. This is not living! I'm done with false hope.
I asked my doc about all these regenerative techniques in order to avoid an ankle replacement. He said that the work best in younger patients, under 40 (I am pushing 60.) there is a lot that can be done and moving is key. P.S. the 3-D printed titanium ankle is doin well!
whoa! I've had bilateral total hip replacements years ago. I'm super curious. What was rehab/pain like from that surgery?
Kate P had my ankle replacement done in 2018 and wish I had done it years ago! No pain and was on a cruise 3 months later, walking completely on my own! I hope you're having a complete success with yours also!😎
@@lindamyers953 How many years do they say it will last? 20 years? If so, you will be close to 80, and would you need another new one?
The crickets.... 😂😂😂😂. Extra points for editing.
We thought you might like that 🤣
It's interesting to see what you said about stem cell therapy. My dad had this done 5 years ago in Sep 2019 and he's been doing great ever since. He tore his ACL around 20 and instead of getting treatment just stopped running and started bicycling. So his muscle has supported him. The bicycling had started hurting him a lot, so he sees a doc in 2019 and they were like we could do knee replacement but because my dad is so active, walking the dog for miles a day, biking, dirt biking, he wanted other options. Got a guy who does SCT.
5 years on and his osteoarthritis hasn't come back at all. Now he does all of the above and is doing heavy weight lifting with an instructor as well. And he's almost 70. Not saying it will work for everyone but clearly it did something for my dad. Now here I am at the age of 35 and I have spots of bone on bone so I'm going to see the same guy.
You simply reporting the evidence. Glad to hear it helped your dad.
Great video...thanks for protecting our ignorance, or should I say innoscense! Love you guys💗💗
Cartilage does turn over--just not very fast. You don't have all the same cartilage you had when you were 25--unless you're still in your 20s. It usually wears down faster than it can regrow. Especially in hips and knees.
The key is to slow down the rate of destruction. Paradoxically, one of the keys to slowing down cartilage degradation is to use it. Use increases lubrication and, to a very limited extent, circulation (by imbibation). There are also foods and chemicals that can slow the rate of destruction--i.e. by reducing inflammation or by feeding MMR proteins (so they will have less appetite for cartilage).
There's a doctor at Stanford working on a method of using microfracturing to generate fiber cartilage but medically altering it to hyaline cartilage. I don't remember his name. And proven results are still in the future.
bone broth plus cartilage dissolves in boiling water and i bet 10 years from now whats this 'doctors' are selling will be obsolete
Can you share with how i can find the foods that slow the destruction of cartilage? Or can you name them here? Also on the opposite side of the spectrum, foods that vould cause inflammation would be nightshades? Bell peppers, tomatoes, eggplant?
@@2malsahm59Yes nightshades can be very inflammatory for some people. Need to limit sugar/carbs first and processed oils first and foremost. Look into keto and carnivore for best results.
@@talkingturtle2641 thank you
@@2malsahm59glucosamine and collagen will help in the growth and rebuilding as well
This was what I needed to know. I need a total knee replacement for both n I’m dreading it. Thank you ❤
You got this!
Me too
@ChiTownLove
I had two total knee replacements in the last 14 months.
I really worked hard at physical therapy after the surgeries.
Result: I am not going back to Marathon running , BUT I'm doing a lot of bicycling and partner dancing!
Dan, Chicago
@@DanAshleyChicagoBiking and partner dancing! That's better than a marathon in my opinion! Good for you!!
My 2 knee replacements have been my best knees! Have no fear and do the PT with plenty of ice.
Thank you. I have been helped greatly by praying to God, warmth, glucosamine, chondroitin, msm, collagen 2, turmeric, ginger, curcumin, mushrooms, pine nuts, unsaponifiabke avocados, boswelia herbs and other things.
I don’t care if it’s cartilage or not or how or why 😄
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God bless and heal you all ❤️ Try the power of prayer ❤️
Thanks for sharing
Guys, I love you ❤ Love, light & blessings from Liverpool UK 🇬🇧
Thank you so much Darci!
Doctors told me my knee was bone to none. Their solution to place a nail in my knee. Thanks to God I took glucosamine with chondrotin , intermittent fasting and keto diet I still have painless regenerated knees❤😊