Apple Vision Pro: Editing a Full Wedding Photo Gallery
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2024
- I share my experience with the Apple Vision Pro VR headset from the perspective of a professional photographer. I delve into my history with VR and compare the Apple Vision Pro to other headsets I've used. I talk about the initial comfort issues I faced and how I managed to overcome them. I highlight the impressive movie-watching experience on the Apple Vision Pro and explore its operating system and pass-through feature. I also discuss connectivity and screen mirroring with Lightroom classic, screen adjustment and brightness, and the benefits of editing photos on the headset. I conclude by sharing my final thoughts and my decision to keep the Apple Vision Pro.
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Chapters
00:00
Introduction and History with VR
01:16
Comparison with Other VR Headsets
02:33
Initial Impressions and Comfort
03:00
Watching Movies on Apple Vision Pro
04:26
Operating System and Pass-through Feature
05:46
Connectivity and Screen Mirroring
06:24
Screen Adjustment and Brightness
07:52
Editing Photos on Apple Vision Pro
09:11
Benefits of Editing Outside
10:30
Latency and Performance
11:41
Using Apple Vision Pro with Mac
12:09
Final Thoughts and Decision
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This would be my main use for it as well. Thanks for your insight, I will be keeping an eye out on this product as availability goes worldwide.
You can set any of the immersive environments to either day or night (default is auto depending on time of day) and some of them get pretty dark. Maybe that would help your search for a dark editing environment.
I came to post the same thing, Night Mode for environments looks amazing on the moon and is also much darker! You can activate night mode for environments either in control center (look for the mountain tab) or via settings for environments. All of the environments have cool night variants, but I also use the moon for photo editing since it's such a neutral grey.
good point!
"Yeah, I can edit on the moon" heheh What a time to be alive Sam!
I trust your judgement with exposure 100 percent being a wedding photographer. I did find having to use the histogram more then I like. A lot of the pics were looking underexposed after I had edited them all and uploaded. I’ll mess around again. I still have 2 days to bring it back
try calibrating using macos tools!
Thanks, Sam.
❤️
I’m using a Quest 2 with two 8BitDo Micro controllers mapped to Lightroom hotkeys for culling and cropping.
I don’t trust it for color editing though…
I really like that Apple is shifting the focus to productivity.
nice! that was my setup for a while too, but AVP just crushes it for colors. culling is no problem on most vr headsets - and many much lighter!
What REALLY needs to happen is Photographers and Videographers need to really give this a go and stick with it and report the things that would make sense. I also agree that most of my "issues" wiht this headset are software based. EXAMPLE I HATE using tackpads so if I wanted to edit in lightroom mobile, or davinci resolve (native apps WITHOUT my laptop) you CAN'T use a real mouse!
Good video. How did you watch your 3D collection on the AVP? What format are your movies in? Thanks.
i own them in apple tv already! i used to have a plex server setup with tons of movies, but gave up on that years ago
Interesting review, I've done some light photo editing in it myself and had been looking for a video like this to see what others thought... for me it's more comfortable I think as I've not had issues like headaches, and can wear it for several hours at a time.
One curious thing though is that FaceID works for you - for me it does not work at all, and I'd read for others it did not work either. I wonder how that ended up working for you! The way FaceID works, the eyes you can see on the front would not work for it - and they don't even turn on until you are looking at a person.
The great thing is it already works so well, and we are just at the start of a long journey of upgrades. Already in just 1.1 the passthrough is supposed to improve, and I'm sure other bugs will get corrected.
Please make something on Wedding Video Editing as well......like Wedding Teasers, Films, Highlights etc. THANKS IN ADVANCE
i don’t do video for weddings, ever
Hey Sam, can you comment on the resolution and text reading? For some reason my setup shows as blurry text, there's no way it has the same clarity as my apple studio monitor. Do you find yours to have the same clarity as your laptop?
certainly not the same clarity as my monitor, but reallllly really good. the pass through is very washy, but anything rendered is like a retina display
Very interesting Sam - but how do you actually edit photos in the AVP? Do you use a keyboard? Do you pinch/ drag lightroom sliders, or do you use gestures?
good question - i use keyboard and trackpad with better touch tool just like i normally would. better touch tool is by far the fastest way i’ve come across to edit in the past 10 years. realizing i could extend/share my mouse and keyboard to the app was the ah-ha moment for me deciding to keep it. for productivity it’s much better than pinching and gestures.
@@iamthephoto Brilliant thanks!
Super cool device but I was getting motion sickness just from seeing this on my lil’ phone 😆 I’d love to have a VR set but 🤢☹️ Maybe different in actual use(?)
and that’s *with* those shots stabilized haha it’s very different in actual use - i get motion sickness very easily and it hasn’t been a problem
Changing the straps fixed my headache and eyestrain
i have a strap hack coming from etsy in a few days!
So how did you calibrate the display?
using native tools in macos
I have glass walls and wonder how safe it is for the sun to blast against the Vision Pro. Although the summer isn't here, the sun shines in now and I put a sun hat over my AVP out of fear of damage.
time will tell but i’m not too concerned about that and plan to use them outside often
isn't mirroring your macbook on vision pro only 1080? or is it 4k?
If you have a Mac with Apple silicon, it can appear in Apple Vision Pro at resolutions up to 4K. If your Mac has an Intel processor, it can appear at resolutions up to 3K.
I'm wondering if the headset is more for viewing than processing power? What I mean is - do you need a macbook to use the AVP for editing? Will an ipad do? Could you use a windows laptop? Do you find it faster overall than using your macbook pro? Thanks!
AVP paired with a macbook pro is just a near zero latency wireless display for the macbook. the magic is that your mouse and keyboard can all extend to the AVP or your macbook depending on what you want to control at the time. so, i get the full speed of my macbook, and paired with better touch tool i can edit without looking at anything other than my photo, and the huge screen of the AVP. the AVP can run all kinds of things on its own, but lightroom would be clunky and slow. not sure about any windows compatibility yet
Thanks Sam. Would be interested in hearing more about better touch tool maybe in another video.
yeah! my setup using it has been on my patreon for years now ;) @@soldsold1
@@iamthephoto Thanks I'll check it out so, I'm a fairly new member of your patreon so just catching up!
You say you calibrated the displays in the comments, but how?
Through the Mac color management tools, that’s obvious, but how did you get the actual readings for the calibration?
I can’t image a colorimeter works well through the lenses, or does it?
I think he means he's calibrated the laptop. The AVP comes very carefully calibrated from the factory.
macbooks also come with/ very well calibrated (at least mine did) screens
@@kigiphoto638 I don’t doubt they’re carefully calibrated just as all Apple displays are, but even reference displays that costs tens of thousands of dollars have to be calibrated on first use, and regularly after that. Because that’s just how displays work.
Unless you are gonna use that display in the same factory it was calibrated in, you have to recalibrate it so it’s color accurate in the conditions of the location where it’s in.
@@iamthephoto Compared to a lot of other brands, Apple does have relatively good factory calibration, but it’s unless you’re insanely lucky, it’s never perfect.
Even the Sony HX310 reference displays we use on set have to be calibrated by us on first use, and regularly after that because calibrations drift. Not by a lot, but by enough that it’s gonna mess things up in a professional color environment.
So, I still don’t really understand how you managed to calibrated the AVP.
I'll work on a separate video for that - the calibration is near perfect. @@joelmulder
Interesting because regarding that their display does not render the all spectrum of color, I was not expecting that you would be satisfied while editing photo in the AVP
i did mention that it’s not as good as a macbook liquid xdr, but it’s good enough and seems to be accurately color calibrated.
No display exists that can render the full range of human visible colors.
DCI-P3 is covers about 45% of the CIE 1931 color space (the average human color range).
93% coverage of the DCI-P3 color space means about 42% of CIE 1931, so the difference isn’t actually that large when you compare it to all the colors humans can see.
It would’ve been nice to have the display cover 99% of the DCI-P3 spectrum like the Mac screens do, but in reality you should never be doing professional color correction on a non-color calibrated display anyway.
@@joelmulder thanx for the info and details !
900 movies? How do you get any work done?
that’s a good question… But it’s been a 20+ year effort
00:37 spoiler
I think the haze in the passthrough is from the cover. Can you try to shine a light on the front plastic screen and see if that makes it worse?
it’s from my finger prints on the exterior
Does this hurt your eyes after hours of editing?
definitely had to take breaks
@@iamthephoto A professional can sit in front of a desktop PC all day. Vision Pro will not offer that kind of extended productivity?
Other people have complained about eye strain too.
Glorified screen.
*glorious* screen.
@@iamthephoto It is that too.
It is not Face ID, it is an eye ID , retina scan ID
i mentioned that
(PAUSE) im 2 mins into this video and I feel the exact same way and have the same history..ok (UNPAUSE)
haha glad you can relate
No, no, no... too complicated for editing.
it’s really not!
This device is completely pointless
i thought so too, but i was wrong
Felt the same until I started using it for work.
@@toothzombie It's seriously trash. Quest is so much better and waaaaaaay cheaper.
@@Dave-nq6uy You can't really use a Quest for serious work like this. The pairing and resolution (and color range/accuracy) is not as good; I've tried. I can do a full day of real work wearing the Vision Pro which has not been true of other headsets I've tried (like Sam, I had the first Oculus from the Kickstarter and a variety of headsets since then). This is why most people use Quest for VR games, for that purpose they are excellent. But working (and movies) is what the AVP was made for.