The most sincere, factual and kinda experimental review I've seen. While many review this materiel as a specs sheet, you're making a short video, a distillation, of many hours of experiments and gathered experiences. Thank you, I subscribed.
I'm so tempted to get this camera. But I haven't seen anything special with the images. Which cameras did you own previously? It might help me decide. Thanks
Thanks Sam. Very interesting and informative video, especially your use of the Techart adapters. I’m looking forward to your future videos featuring the Zf.
This was a much more practical review than others I have seen. Nikon recommends taking the battery out before trying to remove the memory cards. There is an interesting discussion in the Peta Pixel 2024 predictions video about the Canon R1. They have heard rumors that it is held up due to Canon not being able to engineer a fast enough processor. They even speculated that the R3 was designed to be the R1, but they realized they could do so much better with a faster processor so held back on the R1 designation.
thanks! i definitely recommend removing the battery if you need to eject the microsd card, but the sd really does pop out easily once you get a feel for it. will be keeping an eye on the r1 and will almost certainly buy one to try.
A really insightful video, no waffle and to the point. I learnt a lot, thank you! I currently own a D750 & D850 and have been on the fence about jumping to mirrorless for years, Nikon Z F has been something I have been dreaming of, and I suspect this summer I'll take the pludge! Showing the Lightroom comparisons were really helpful Sam, especially when someone is choosing between different bodies.
Wow what a great review! This is an amazing camera and worth the money imo, I purchased along with the 105 mm 2.8 macro z lens and nothing short of greatness.
Hi, Sam! This is a great practical review! I'm waiting for the Z63, which will hopefully match or exceed the ISO and AF performance of the Zf, along wth better ergonomics for long work days. But the Zf sure looks tempting for shorter events and personal use/travel. I have a Z9 and Z62, and agree that the AF systems are night and day different.
Great review Sam. First time watching, but was not disappointed. Your thought process and approach to the camera was very helpful and the lens adapter review was awesome. Got two reviews for one. I am so surprised that Nikon put the card slots on the bottom. Impossible to deal with at times depending on grips, tripod mounts and such, but overall looks like a great camera. Can’t wait to get one.
Thanks for the review. I enjoy using the camera so much to the point that I acquired another Zf as my third body. I'll continue to use my Z9 for sports, actions, and tasks requiring heavier lenses or high-resolution files, while using the Zf's as my primary choice for all other purposes.
The techart adapter is adjusting focus of the lens while at infinity. It’s cool and it definitely works, but since the lens elements aren’t moving separately throughout the focus range, the lens won’t perform as well as it could at closer focusing distances.
@@iamsamhurdphotography have you done any comparisons to see if the difference in performance is even all the noticeable? I have a MP and some M mount glass that id love to pair with my ZF, if only to avoid spending money on a digital M lol.
You can mitigate this issue somewhat by shifting the lens manually to close focus distance for really close up shots before letting the techart adapter do its thing, and you can kinda do the same thing at other distances -- throw the focus to an approximate distance and then use the adapter to fine tune auto focus. Just about the only thing that limits the tech art M to Z adapter is the weight of the lens, which is just the limits of the motor. My favorite lens so far is the Mr. Ding M mount 50mm f1.1. The lens is very light weight and with the auto focus on the tech art it's a real game-changer for achieving focus at that shallow depth of field. And yes, I did just say "Mr. Ding." For Nikon's own F to Z adapter, they need to add support for screw drive focus lenses, otherwise it works perfectly.
Excellent review. I enjoyed this Zf review more than any of the others I’ve seen, and I don’t even need to know about it because I own it. Yet I still enjoyed the watch. 👍
You are absolutely selling me on the ZF. Currently have my z6ii up for sale, will keep one for now, and if it takes a while to sell, maybe the z6iii will be announced and i might end up with that instead
i’ve been dreaming of it ever since the canon r! at a minimum it’d be great if the screen could be front facing and i could keep looking through the evf at the same time
100% agree with having the same UI between 2 devices. I used an iphone 8 for my personal phone and a face ID iphone for my work phone for a while. I was never able to use either efficiently until I got 2 with the same UI
Hi Sam - nice video. I've seen you on Taylor Jackson's videos in the past and appreciate your perspectives and insights. A couple things I would mention: when it comes to noise, it is clear that the 24MP BSI sensor from the Z6II/Zf is going to be 'cleaner' out of camera than the 45mp stacked sensor of the Z8/9 - this is actually a matter of physics - has to do with heat relative to pixel density among other things. Most people recognize this outcome and as a result there is a notion in the photo community that lower MP sensors are better with low light - straight out of camera this is generally true (at least for sensors of a similar generation). What is not generally recognized is that the 45MP sensor has so much more resolution that you can apply noise reduction to the files clean them up and still retain more detail than the shot done with the 24MP sensor. So, if you are someone that needs results straight out of camera then yes the Zf is the 'better' low light camera - but if best possible results are being considered (meaning one is willing to do post processing) then the Z8/9 shots will beat the Zf shots after NR is applied. Secondly, I find it interesting that you do not like the dials at the top of the Zf in that they cannot do more things - this is actually the point of a retro camera - it seems that you are choosing to use this camera in the same way that you might have used a Z6II before - for your wedding work etc and as such you are shooting it in a similar manner. This is perfectly acceptable and it is a testament to the Zf that it is even able to be used in this manner as this is definitively its secondary function. For this issues you are having with the Zf, it is clear that you would do best with the upcoming Z6III - it will have a great grip so the flash issue will become moot; it will likely be 24-33MP so similar to the Zf; and it will have the same (if not better) AF capability as well as further improved video, and likely the same screen from the Zf that you like. As a wedding photographer myselfn (among other things), there is no doubt that a Z6III will be the better choice for all day shooting at events (like weddings) than a Zf in spite of how cool and fun the Zf is. The Zf is really for nostalgia for those of us that have been shooting with Nikons since the days of the FE II and other similar cameras. Nikon went the extra mile and made it so competent that it can compete in a modern capacity, but this is not its primary function. I bring this up because your main issues seem to surround this issue and although you make accurate observations, I feel it should be noted that you are using this camera in a way that it was not primarily designed to be used. Again, the Z6III would likely be the perfect camera for your professional needs as it will squarely address all the issues you are having with the Zf and likely add some surprise additional features as well. Anyway, sorry to have rambled so long - definitely enjoyed the video and your thoughts on the topic. -PD
thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! i’m very aware of the sensor physics and tradeoffs :) the z6iii is a non starter for me if it doesn’t have the same articulating screen as the zf. it’s a make or break feature for me so, let’s hope! the styling of the zf does change the shooting experience - and it’s a significant impact - even without use of the top dials… so, while i will try the z6iii i’m not vying for it.
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks for this interesting and informative review. I admit that I'm tempted by the Zf, but I'm not crazy about the ergonomics of the retro body (even though I'm ancient and started my photography journey with a Zenith E). There is a a reason why manufacturers put deep grips on cameras. I'm hoping the Z6 (or 7) iii will have a regular tilting screen as I dislike flip screens. It's all a matter of taste and use case, of course. Even more preferable would be a screen that articulates both ways, like on some Fujis. That seems to offer the best of both worlds. Happy Christmas!
Thank you for this video, really enjoyed it :) And i agree with a lot of what you enjoy with this camera, we seem to have a similar taste in lenses and sensor look etc too when i listen to some of what you said. I still have my Nikon Df and the D4 sharing that same sensor which is my favorite to this day. I had the Zf now for a little while but i cant say too much about the sensor yet, but im slowly getting a feel for how it looks and performs. I still like the Df sensor a bit more, but since i always PP and add my own style to it anyways i at least think they have a great starting point and im as happy in the end almost with the files i get from the Zf. I also agree with that its SO fun to use, love the style of the camera and its the size that i wish the Df would have been too. The slight edge the Df has is not having to use the ugly FTZ adapter to adapt my favorite F lenses. The other lenses i adapt are from OM, Leica and M42 mounts thus far. And im having a blast with that :) Some favorites are the Takumar 50 mm f1,4 8 element lens that match really well and is able to create amazing dreamy images. Then the Zuiko 55mm f1,2 is a lot of vintage fun, and then im using the same as you the 35mm f1,4 Nokton from Voitgtlander. The Af lenses with Z mount i use are only the 28mm f2,8 and the 40mm f2 which i really like to be honest, sure they are plastic, but so light and ,atch so well for casual fun shootig and really give some nice images in my opinion. Just perfect for day to day shooting and street. Anyhow, great vid, fun times :) /regards Martin.
i did go on a bit of a tangent, haha. there’s not much else to say about the camera itself though - it’s pretty straight forward and i highlighted the strengths and weaknesses - not much else needed. my patreon article covered additional details.
Interesting. I had the Z9 and switched to Z8 and I find the files harder/ not as nice to edit - I don't have a Z9 any longer to compare so kinda good to hear you think the same. My presets don't look that close either - kinda annoying. Thinking of switching to ZF for weddings but I think I'll miss the joystick
Very Nice review. I'm tempted by this camera after being disillusioned with photography for a while. I started my photographic journey with Nikon Film cameras so this camera feels familiar and the first mirrorless Nikon that attracts me. I last had the Nikon D800 some years ago. I sold my Noct some years ago (sigh) and the m11 is just too expensive and my eyes just don't do well with the RF anymore. But I do still have some M lenses so the autofocus lens art is a pleasant revelation. The less noise on the sensor is probably because this is a 24 megapixel camera as compared to 45 on on the z8. When packing more pixels in the noise characteristics change for the worse.
Hi! I saw that techart had an adapter with autofocus for Sony FE to Nikon Z lenses. Do you really suggest I could use some old Konica or Zeiss lenses via adapter to Sony E, mount it on the Techart adapter and enjoy autofocus?
@@iamsamhurdphotography What am I missing? I have a function button set on my A7RIV to switch the camera into crop mode. 61mp full frame, 26mp cropped. I must not be understanding Taylor's question.
@@dpfreedmanYou can do that on a 2013 a7. I have an a7s that does crop mode (5 megapixels!). I HAVE A 2010 CCD A390 WITH CROP MODE (in jpeg with live view). Taylor Jackson used Sony for a while. He should know this.
It’s a beautiful looking camera. Nicely built. I coupled mine with magadapter and Sigma i series lens. No lens profile correction for sigma 24mm f/2 DN DG. I have to shoot raw and I use Sony FE 28mm f/2 profile for lens distortion correction.
nope - i don’t have any e mount lenses anymore. i only tested from the body perspective meaning sony a7r4 w/ the equivalent techart m mount to e mount af adapter
Nikon zf picture control profile kelvin and stander pic. profile (SD) still & video both are same - is it problem? how can solve it. please tell me.... I want two different picture control - Still and Video
I really enjoyed the vintage lens comparison. Those adapters you have are sweet! I wish they had similar autofocus adapters for minolta rokkor shooters, but I have a feeling this is NOT the audience that this camera is for whatsoever LOL
Great video, would love to see real life performance of adapted EF lenses with the camera. I am really tempted to buy this camera for the looks alone but performance looks incredible.
@@iamsamhurdphotography yes, and it looked really nice! I was referring to see some photos or a shoot specifically taken with EF lenses. Maybe an idea for a future video?
Hey Sam! I've watched this review probably five times now and I really resonate with what you said around 14:08 where it feels like the more recent Nikon bodies have been going all out without the feeling like it's been nerfed to protect a higher end body or cinema line. I've still not fully committed to mirrorless yet but I have some Canon EF stuff and will be deciding whether to go RF or Nikon Z, and a big part of that will be based on if Canon still has that mentality. Nikon embracing the weird and niche stuff as well as making moves like buying RED, it's looking really exciting!
Thanks for this nice video. I was wondering in future videos if you can: 1) Do another focus test like you did on this video, but have the exposure set to cut out ambient light, and retest focusing in that mode, as I am curious to see how it will be for studio work. 2) There are some reports that there is a small blackout after the photo review which can delay the camera getting ready for shooting mode to commence shooting. Can you confirm if this is so and your experience with it? Thanks again :)
I’m three months in on the ZF, and I couldn’t be happier! The images appear just as sharp and clear as the high megapixel Sony‘s I was using, and it’s a lot more gentle on my computer, lol! My hit rate with Sony‘s auto focus over the years was around 90 to 95%, pretty good, but so far after three months my hit rate with the ZF has been 100%! And the colors are still vastly superior, and the way it handles dynamic range is still better than I had experienced with the Sony cameras.😊
I am waiting for the Z6III... I am older, and sadly weaker, so I like the Z6II GRIP (and I agree about the Dials)... Just found Your YT Channel (but I am familiar of Your work) :) :) Do You have a vid about on camera flash??? Whenever I use a flash I do Off Camera Flash (even if only arm distance)(came from my photojournalism days)... I use 125gig SD cards so I seldom have a need to change during a shoot,, What size do You use??? I realize that SD can become corrupted (knock on wood, never yet)... Is the increased IBIS noticeable???? I think a larger dumy grip (as little extra weight as possible might be better than a battery grip for a long day).... I have been sticking to Nikon (since 1969) even with the slower focus problems (money is tight and I luv My Glass) Glad to hear You are back to Nikon (but cameras are tools so it does not really matter) But I like to hear Your in depth experience, and Your Perceptions !!! ThankYou :) :) :)
What I really want from Nikon is - Real Time LUT like in the Panasonic cameras :). Than I can go Nikon from Sony because on Panasonic I can't use my lenses but Nikon has an adapter for E mount lenses. This is a game changer.
Thank you very much for the very thorough review of the Nikon Zf. Maybe the best, but at least the most useful. I am one of those with a lot of Nikkor glass, also Pre-AI, so I have a Nikon Df. Also have a Canon 5D classic and MkII for my Zuiko lenses and EF T&S, but my main system is the m43 and will be in the future. Now, with tools, nothing is perfect for everything. Have long been at the stage of buying a GFX, but the TechArt adapter for the Zf has changed everything, as well as the fact that the Zf is so good in low light.
Wow this is really interesting I've been on a vintage lens kick lately, I've been shooting them on an old Leica SL 601 body. I've got a Sony body but I never bought the Techart adapter because the performance seemed sub par. I might get the ZF as my vintage autofocus camera. Not to mention I've only got 2 Sony E enses but I could adapt those to Z mount with another adapter.
Sad you dont post on Vero anymore, I don't use Instagram, and your work is so great, makes me want to be better at this. Great video, and great photographer.
08:55 you do not want to hold the lens while using its AF, the manual adapter is moving the lens front and back, by holding it you are making it harder to the adapter to do its job and it will wear the motor much faster. I am using those for years on my Sony and I have some service experience already :D
@@iamsamhurdphotography I am just saying as a person who knows what is inside. This newer one (without the bulging part underneath) is more simple at first sight without gears but those 4 motors are maybe a worse idea because if one of them fails ... and again - they have their limitations and if I remember right it was 500g of a lens which is not a lot. I would not count on it working for long with high payloads and resistance from a hand holding the lens. I still have 2 of the older adapters and one of they broke a gear, the other one had 2 times motor fail problems, but it is still running. I really like the idea of shooting my vintage lenses with one hand because of the AF. Just keep in mind that if you want them to work for long you have to use them with smaller glass :).
Have to agree about the colours coming out of the old Df, that alone kept me shooting with it, once I put to bed its limitations. The Zf does seem like a true successor to the Df but with amazing autofocus.
The z6 vs z7 , or z8-9 vs ZF is about a stop difference in high ISO , and for the techart adapter with M lenses , you should set the aperture in camera to match what the lens is set to , not just for exif , but if it’s to far off from what the lens has it will have problems focusing … just my experience
interesting note! i do notice an odd relationship to focusing and exposure being tied to a range of iso that i’m shooting in. they’re doing something odd via software i can’t quite figure out
Thanks Sam, Im a ex Nikon shooter currently Sony A7R5. Im thinking of going back now with the new Z6 III, but I didn't realise Nikon had sorted the AF with this camera.
Hey Sam! I recently got the Zf too and love it. The dials are the worst part (imo). Do you have more info somewhere about how you bypassed them. Im struggling with finding an alternative way to setup the shutter speed. I've dug around in the setting a few times and just cant seem to figure it out.
I loved this review! I'm looking for a backup autofocus camera for my M11 and this seems to fit the bill for everything I'd want. I noticed the Teenage Engineering CM-15 on your table, how is THAT doing in terms of performance??
I am a re-convert to Nikon. I switched to Sony 8 years ago because Nikon autofocus was absolutely abysmal and DSLRs in general had gotten enormous and heavy. But I bought a Zfc this fall out of curiosity and it shocked me. Nikon colors are so much better than Sony and they really turned their autofocus around to actually be better than Sony. Besides, mirrorless cameras and lenses (besides the Fujis and Zf/Zfc) have grown bigger and heavier to be almost as bloated as the old DSLRs. I packed up my a7R4 setup and will be trading it in on a new Zf and lens. 😃
I'm not trying to diss your choices. Every camera manufacturer makes awesome cameras these days and Nikon may now work better for you. But you are comparing the autofocus on a 61mp, resolution focused body, that was released in 2019 To a 20mp body released 2 years later. Have you compared it to something like the A74, a75, A1, or even a9/a9ii?
Yes, I’ve borrowed my Sony using co-photographer’s cameras (a7iv, a9ii etc.) and I am still impressed with Nikon’s autofocus performance. How they went from horrible to world-leading in a few short years surprised me (that’s all I’m saying). Most importantly though, (much more important to me than autofocus) the colors of the Zfc especially in very challenging lighting situations are a world apart from any Sony I’ve used in day to day real world use. Now with the full frame Zf, it’s even better. The way these Nikons are handling color, light and dynamic range are a vast improvement over Sony…. This is from shooting my cameras 6-10 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week (and an equal amount of time editing). Just my personal experience and opinion though of course. 😉
Thank you for sharing some great options there. Fuji has been designing these type of retro cameras for a while now. We’re do you think Nikon got its inspiration from. Just adding in to your comment at 13:45sec
love the review. my favourite lens was the 55 f1.2 AIS, thou i'm a sony user, i still kept the lens. Could you help me here as I'm trying to understand your adaptor arrangement? You mention mounting a manual F lens on a F to M mount and Techart M to Z mount would enable the auto focus. So I'm guessing manual F to M mount, with techart M to E mount on sony body would work too?
yes, i believe that combo would work too. note that the techart m to e mount adapter does not have the same functionality as the z mount version. i believe some focus modes are limited on sony
Great review, Sam and I'm so happy Nikon finally came out with a camera like this. I also shot Nikon for 14 years or so and jumped ship after getting the Z7 which was not serious camera for any moving subject. I'm just wondering if the Techart adaptor is not the weak link here? I shoot a lot of multi day South Asian weddings and you are screwed if your autofocus adaptor dies in the middle of one of these events? Do you only use adapted lenses, or do you also have a couple of reliable Z lenses just in case this happens? Even if you're not in the middle of nowhere its still gonna take at least 24-48 hrs to get a new adaptor, presuming BH has it in stock.
so far i have not had any adapter issues - and i also have two adapters. no reason to assume both would fail at the same time, but i do own the 24 1.8, 24-70, and 40 f/2.0 z mount lenses too.
I came across your video while looking for more reviews of Zf. As an amateur I needed a general impressions of a professional working with the camera in real world. I played with the body in a local store (some reviewers mentioned that you need it to see if the body is good for you) and found that it fits my hands very well. Even the button for AF/ON function is right in place for my thumb - some reviewers complained it was placed awkwardly. The body feels slippery but i will definitely buy the small rig grip. Thank you for the video!
Really great review. I want one of these, but I'm a total cheapskate, so I will have to wait a while until they appear on the used market. (I anticipate 18 months to 2 years before used Zf's hit a price point to suit me.) Meantime I'm still loving my D3S, D3X, and recently acquired Z6 (original.)
Awesome review just bought mine today B&H, feels like a good addition to anyones arsenal and it will be my first ff camera (currently on Sony a6700)... Quick segway though where the hell did you get that sweater, it's absolute fire... LMAO!!! Cheers...
Sam, Appreciate your thoughts on this. I too am a former Canon user and have sold off all that to go back to Nikon alone. Can i ask what flash brand you are using with your Z cameras, and would you recommend those? Thanks
@@iamsamhurdphotography oh I love the nikon z8 so much. I want the zf as a b cam so I can film on different angles. Right now I'm filming multiple times to get different shots. Also for travel photography, the zf with the 40mm f2 seems appealing. Love your videos and how you present information
Lower pixel density usually results in lower noise. My 645Z has much better low light noise performance than my D850. I ordered my Zf at launch, and it's been great. I bought Nikon Z 24-120/4 S as an all purpose lens, and Meike 85/1.4 for portraits. Also an FTZ II to use my F mount lenses.
The high ISO noise on the Z f is incredible. Add to that the low light AF is also incredible too. This is a low light monster.
It is such a nice camera. I did my first wedding with it two weeks ago as a main camera. Focus is so much faster then the ZII and it looks lovely!
Wonderful images and video sequences. You have a great skill in story telling and video creation. This is always a pleasure to watch.
The most sincere, factual and kinda experimental review I've seen. While many review this materiel as a specs sheet, you're making a short video, a distillation, of many hours of experiments and gathered experiences. Thank you, I subscribed.
much appreciated!
Excellent review, everything explained in an eloquent and calm way. Sets a standard on how reviews should be made.
I appreciate that!
Greatest camera I have ever owned, the Sd- Micro sd slot is pure genius imo
agreed!
YEP!
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I'm so tempted to get this camera. But I haven't seen anything special with the images. Which cameras did you own previously? It might help me decide. Thanks
@@soulopticc I still own a D750 and a D4s...I also own a Z5 and a Z6ii which I plan to sell but will still keep my DSLRs
100% it's my top 3 fav camera of all time, hands down.
Thanks Sam. Very interesting and informative video, especially your use of the Techart adapters. I’m looking forward to your future videos featuring the Zf.
Glad it was helpful!
That's the review I've been waiting for! I've been hyped with that kind of adapter since Magic made a video with the Summilux 50 1.4.
Glad I could help!
This was a much more practical review than others I have seen. Nikon recommends taking the battery out before trying to remove the memory cards. There is an interesting discussion in the Peta Pixel 2024 predictions video about the Canon R1. They have heard rumors that it is held up due to Canon not being able to engineer a fast enough processor. They even speculated that the R3 was designed to be the R1, but they realized they could do so much better with a faster processor so held back on the R1 designation.
thanks! i definitely recommend removing the battery if you need to eject the microsd card, but the sd really does pop out easily once you get a feel for it. will be keeping an eye on the r1 and will almost certainly buy one to try.
A really insightful video, no waffle and to the point. I learnt a lot, thank you!
I currently own a D750 & D850 and have been on the fence about jumping to mirrorless for years, Nikon Z F has been something I have been dreaming of, and I suspect this summer I'll take the pludge!
Showing the Lightroom comparisons were really helpful Sam, especially when someone is choosing between different bodies.
One of the most thorough and informative real world reviews of a camera I've ever seen, thanks so much man.
I appreciate that!
Wow what a great review! This is an amazing camera and worth the money imo, I purchased along with the 105 mm 2.8 macro z lens and nothing short of greatness.
I just watched a boatload of Zf reviews...this is one of the best. Thanks heaps 😊
very welcome! thanks for your attention 🙌
Hi, Sam! This is a great practical review! I'm waiting for the Z63, which will hopefully match or exceed the ISO and AF performance of the Zf, along wth better ergonomics for long work days. But the Zf sure looks tempting for shorter events and personal use/travel. I have a Z9 and Z62, and agree that the AF systems are night and day different.
i’ll be very curious if the z63 has an updated screen articulation!
Would love to see the z9 articulation in a z6iii
Great review Sam. First time watching, but was not disappointed. Your thought process and approach to the camera was very helpful and the lens adapter review was awesome. Got two reviews for one. I am so surprised that Nikon put the card slots on the bottom. Impossible to deal with at times depending on grips, tripod mounts and such, but overall looks like a great camera. Can’t wait to get one.
thanks! glad you enjoyed
Thanks for the review. I enjoy using the camera so much to the point that I acquired another Zf as my third body. I'll continue to use my Z9 for sports, actions, and tasks requiring heavier lenses or high-resolution files, while using the Zf's as my primary choice for all other purposes.
sounds like a nice and balanced collection
The techart adapter is adjusting focus of the lens while at infinity. It’s cool and it definitely works, but since the lens elements aren’t moving separately throughout the focus range, the lens won’t perform as well as it could at closer focusing distances.
yes! i mention that tradeoff briefly, but didn’t find it worth diving into.
@@iamsamhurdphotography have you done any comparisons to see if the difference in performance is even all the noticeable? I have a MP and some M mount glass that id love to pair with my ZF, if only to avoid spending money on a digital M lol.
You can mitigate this issue somewhat by shifting the lens manually to close focus distance for really close up shots before letting the techart adapter do its thing, and you can kinda do the same thing at other distances -- throw the focus to an approximate distance and then use the adapter to fine tune auto focus. Just about the only thing that limits the tech art M to Z adapter is the weight of the lens, which is just the limits of the motor. My favorite lens so far is the Mr. Ding M mount 50mm f1.1. The lens is very light weight and with the auto focus on the tech art it's a real game-changer for achieving focus at that shallow depth of field. And yes, I did just say "Mr. Ding." For Nikon's own F to Z adapter, they need to add support for screw drive focus lenses, otherwise it works perfectly.
Perfect video, very informative, thanks a lot!
Great review! Your review helped me in deciding to get one to compliment my Z7ii.
Glad I could help!
Neewer has an L mount grip for the Zf with an F3-inspired red stripe. So pretty!
00:35 - 01:00 ..The most real and honest assessment of Nikon AF..
And ..In my humble opinion spot on💯💥
Excellent review. I enjoyed this Zf review more than any of the others I’ve seen, and I don’t even need to know about it because I own it. Yet I still enjoyed the watch. 👍
You are absolutely selling me on the ZF. Currently have my z6ii up for sale, will keep one for now, and if it takes a while to sell, maybe the z6iii will be announced and i might end up with that instead
Great idea of articulating screen with both side one for subject and one for photographer
i’ve been dreaming of it ever since the canon r! at a minimum it’d be great if the screen could be front facing and i could keep looking through the evf at the same time
Thanks for this detailed review. I just traded in my beloved z6 for the zf. She should arrive next week. I am very excited.
you’ll looooooove it
Excellent video from beginning to end!
Glad you liked it!
Man, you are a great speaker! Very engaging.
100% agree with having the same UI between 2 devices. I used an iphone 8 for my personal phone and a face ID iphone for my work phone for a while. I was never able to use either efficiently until I got 2 with the same UI
Hi Sam - nice video. I've seen you on Taylor Jackson's videos in the past and appreciate your perspectives and insights.
A couple things I would mention: when it comes to noise, it is clear that the 24MP BSI sensor from the Z6II/Zf is going to be 'cleaner' out of camera than the 45mp stacked sensor of the Z8/9 - this is actually a matter of physics - has to do with heat relative to pixel density among other things. Most people recognize this outcome and as a result there is a notion in the photo community that lower MP sensors are better with low light - straight out of camera this is generally true (at least for sensors of a similar generation).
What is not generally recognized is that the 45MP sensor has so much more resolution that you can apply noise reduction to the files clean them up and still retain more detail than the shot done with the 24MP sensor. So, if you are someone that needs results straight out of camera then yes the Zf is the 'better' low light camera - but if best possible results are being considered (meaning one is willing to do post processing) then the Z8/9 shots will beat the Zf shots after NR is applied.
Secondly, I find it interesting that you do not like the dials at the top of the Zf in that they cannot do more things - this is actually the point of a retro camera - it seems that you are choosing to use this camera in the same way that you might have used a Z6II before - for your wedding work etc and as such you are shooting it in a similar manner. This is perfectly acceptable and it is a testament to the Zf that it is even able to be used in this manner as this is definitively its secondary function. For this issues you are having with the Zf, it is clear that you would do best with the upcoming Z6III - it will have a great grip so the flash issue will become moot; it will likely be 24-33MP so similar to the Zf; and it will have the same (if not better) AF capability as well as further improved video, and likely the same screen from the Zf that you like.
As a wedding photographer myselfn (among other things), there is no doubt that a Z6III will be the better choice for all day shooting at events (like weddings) than a Zf in spite of how cool and fun the Zf is. The Zf is really for nostalgia for those of us that have been shooting with Nikons since the days of the FE II and other similar cameras. Nikon went the extra mile and made it so competent that it can compete in a modern capacity, but this is not its primary function. I bring this up because your main issues seem to surround this issue and although you make accurate observations, I feel it should be noted that you are using this camera in a way that it was not primarily designed to be used. Again, the Z6III would likely be the perfect camera for your professional needs as it will squarely address all the issues you are having with the Zf and likely add some surprise additional features as well.
Anyway, sorry to have rambled so long - definitely enjoyed the video and your thoughts on the topic.
-PD
thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! i’m very aware of the sensor physics and tradeoffs :) the z6iii is a non starter for me if it doesn’t have the same articulating screen as the zf. it’s a make or break feature for me so, let’s hope! the styling of the zf does change the shooting experience - and it’s a significant impact - even without use of the top dials… so, while i will try the z6iii i’m not vying for it.
@@iamsamhurdphotography Thanks for this interesting and informative review. I admit that I'm tempted by the Zf, but I'm not crazy about the ergonomics of the retro body (even though I'm ancient and started my photography journey with a Zenith E). There is a a reason why manufacturers put deep grips on cameras. I'm hoping the Z6 (or 7) iii will have a regular tilting screen as I dislike flip screens. It's all a matter of taste and use case, of course. Even more preferable would be a screen that articulates both ways, like on some Fujis. That seems to offer the best of both worlds. Happy Christmas!
I LOVE using the ISO dial on my Zfc, not sure why. I love the exp. comp wheel too but it seems to rotate backwards from how I think.
Thank you for this video, really enjoyed it :) And i agree with a lot of what you enjoy with this camera, we seem to have a similar taste in lenses and sensor look etc too when i listen to some of what you said. I still have my Nikon Df and the D4 sharing that same sensor which is my favorite to this day. I had the Zf now for a little while but i cant say too much about the sensor yet, but im slowly getting a feel for how it looks and performs.
I still like the Df sensor a bit more, but since i always PP and add my own style to it anyways i at least think they have a great starting point and im as happy in the end almost with the files i get from the Zf.
I also agree with that its SO fun to use, love the style of the camera and its the size that i wish the Df would have been too. The slight edge the Df has is not having to use the ugly FTZ adapter to adapt my favorite F lenses.
The other lenses i adapt are from OM, Leica and M42 mounts thus far. And im having a blast with that :) Some favorites are the Takumar 50 mm f1,4 8 element lens that match really well and is able to create amazing dreamy images. Then the Zuiko 55mm f1,2 is a lot of vintage fun, and then im using the same as you the 35mm f1,4 Nokton from Voitgtlander.
The Af lenses with Z mount i use are only the 28mm f2,8 and the 40mm f2 which i really like to be honest, sure they are plastic, but so light and ,atch so well for casual fun shootig and really give some nice images in my opinion.
Just perfect for day to day shooting and street.
Anyhow, great vid, fun times :)
/regards Martin.
wonderful writeup!! the options are truly incredible with this setup and everything just looks so darn good with the styling of the zf body. enjoy!
Awesome, completely surprised by the adapters. Just awesome!
Great Video, Thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it
this is a really useful video about the adapter more than about the camera itself.
i did go on a bit of a tangent, haha. there’s not much else to say about the camera itself though - it’s pretty straight forward and i highlighted the strengths and weaknesses - not much else needed. my patreon article covered additional details.
very interesting approach of camera
Interesting. I had the Z9 and switched to Z8 and I find the files harder/ not as nice to edit - I don't have a Z9 any longer to compare so kinda good to hear you think the same. My presets don't look that close either - kinda annoying. Thinking of switching to ZF for weddings but I think I'll miss the joystick
Very Nice review. I'm tempted by this camera after being disillusioned with photography for a while. I started my photographic journey with Nikon Film cameras so this camera feels familiar and the first mirrorless Nikon that attracts me. I last had the Nikon D800 some years ago. I sold my Noct some years ago (sigh) and the m11 is just too expensive and my eyes just don't do well with the RF anymore. But I do still have some M lenses so the autofocus lens art is a pleasant revelation. The less noise on the sensor is probably because this is a 24 megapixel camera as compared to 45 on on the z8. When packing more pixels in the noise characteristics change for the worse.
Incredible detail thank you alot
Happy to see more Photographers are making Nikon ZF content. Back then I can't see much of it.
awesome! i hate the label content creator, but ill take it for this post haha
@@iamsamhurdphotography Changed it. Now, I don't like to use "content creators" for Photographers and Videographers. 😂😂😂
Fantastic review. Thank you very much.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi! I saw that techart had an adapter with autofocus for Sony FE to Nikon Z lenses. Do you really suggest I could use some old Konica or Zeiss lenses via adapter to Sony E, mount it on the Techart adapter and enjoy autofocus?
I edit in Capture One and my Zf files are so clean it's stunning. I've been so happy with that camera.
It really is!
Hi Sam,
do you know if you can switch Sony cameras into APS-C crop mode?
I've heard that you can't.
Thank you,
Taylor
i’m pretty sure you can’t, and i’ll continue to believe that until someone proves me wrong… in person… across multiple sony bodies.
@@iamsamhurdphotography What am I missing? I have a function button set on my A7RIV to switch the camera into crop mode. 61mp full frame, 26mp cropped. I must not be understanding Taylor's question.
@@dpfreedmanYou can do that on a 2013 a7. I have an a7s that does crop mode (5 megapixels!). I HAVE A 2010 CCD A390 WITH CROP MODE (in jpeg with live view). Taylor Jackson used Sony for a while. He should know this.
Yes if they are full-frame. you can even set it onto a custom button
😂😂😂
It’s a beautiful looking camera. Nicely built. I coupled mine with magadapter and Sigma i series lens. No lens profile correction for sigma 24mm f/2 DN DG. I have to shoot raw and I use Sony FE 28mm f/2 profile for lens distortion correction.
You have a Noct and a Canon EF 50 f1.0? Wow!!!! I am impressed dude.
haha yes, thanks! my favorite between them is still the nikon 58 1.2
I may have missed it, but did you test the Megadap ETZ21 Pro to use Sony E-Mount lenses on Z body?
nope - i don’t have any e mount lenses anymore. i only tested from the body perspective meaning sony a7r4 w/ the equivalent techart m mount to e mount af adapter
Superb review! Thank you!
My pleasure!
Excellent review
I agree - the Nikon colors - just right.
And now the autofocus is where it needs to be
glad you agree!
Great Review!
There’s also the Megadap ETZ21 Pro where you can adapt e-mount lenses to mirrorless Nikon bodies. Reviews say it works!
yeah! i’ve tried that too, but don’t own any e mount lenses myself
Nikon zf picture control profile kelvin and stander pic. profile (SD) still & video both are same - is it problem? how can solve it. please tell me.... I want two different picture control - Still and Video
sorry i’m not sure what problem you’re describing!
I really enjoyed the vintage lens comparison. Those adapters you have are sweet! I wish they had similar autofocus adapters for minolta rokkor shooters, but I have a feeling this is NOT the audience that this camera is for whatsoever LOL
Top Video, really informative even for not Nikon users..thx a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, would love to see real life performance of adapted EF lenses with the camera. I am really tempted to buy this camera for the looks alone but performance looks incredible.
I demo the af with the canon 50 1.0 ef mount at 6:09
@@iamsamhurdphotography yes, and it looked really nice! I was referring to see some photos or a shoot specifically taken with EF lenses.
Maybe an idea for a future video?
Hey Sam! I've watched this review probably five times now and I really resonate with what you said around 14:08 where it feels like the more recent Nikon bodies have been going all out without the feeling like it's been nerfed to protect a higher end body or cinema line. I've still not fully committed to mirrorless yet but I have some Canon EF stuff and will be deciding whether to go RF or Nikon Z, and a big part of that will be based on if Canon still has that mentality. Nikon embracing the weird and niche stuff as well as making moves like buying RED, it's looking really exciting!
awesome! really glad you liked the review so much and i hope more companies take nikons lead :)
Thanks for this nice video. I was wondering in future videos if you can:
1) Do another focus test like you did on this video, but have the exposure set to cut out ambient light, and retest focusing in that mode, as I am curious to see how it will be for studio work.
2) There are some reports that there is a small blackout after the photo review which can delay the camera getting ready for shooting mode to commence shooting. Can you confirm if this is so and your experience with it?
Thanks again :)
I’m three months in on the ZF, and I couldn’t be happier! The images appear just as sharp and clear as the high megapixel Sony‘s I was using, and it’s a lot more gentle on my computer, lol!
My hit rate with Sony‘s auto focus over the years was around 90 to 95%, pretty good, but so far after three months my hit rate with the ZF has been 100%!
And the colors are still vastly superior, and the way it handles dynamic range is still better than I had experienced with the Sony cameras.😊
I’ve been on the fence for a while but I think you sold me.
i don’t think you’ll be disappointed!
I am waiting for the Z6III... I am older, and sadly weaker, so I like the Z6II GRIP (and I agree about the Dials)... Just found Your YT Channel (but I am familiar of Your work) :) :) Do You have a vid about on camera flash??? Whenever I use a flash I do Off Camera Flash (even if only arm distance)(came from my photojournalism days)... I use 125gig SD cards so I seldom have a need to change during a shoot,, What size do You use??? I realize that SD can become corrupted (knock on wood, never yet)... Is the increased IBIS noticeable???? I think a larger dumy grip (as little extra weight as possible might be better than a battery grip for a long day).... I have been sticking to Nikon (since 1969) even with the slower focus problems (money is tight and I luv My Glass) Glad to hear You are back to Nikon (but cameras are tools so it does not really matter) But I like to hear Your in depth experience, and Your Perceptions !!! ThankYou :) :) :)
Went back thru Your Vids and found one about OnCF,, Cool !! :) :) :)
What I really want from Nikon is - Real Time LUT like in the Panasonic cameras :). Than I can go Nikon from Sony because on Panasonic I can't use my lenses but Nikon has an adapter for E mount lenses. This is a game changer.
that’s the dream!!
Enjoy your video. Keep up great work.
Thanks, will do!
Thank you very much for the very thorough review of the Nikon Zf. Maybe the best, but at least the most useful. I am one of those with a lot of Nikkor glass, also Pre-AI, so I have a Nikon Df. Also have a Canon 5D classic and MkII for my Zuiko lenses and EF T&S, but my main system is the m43 and will be in the future. Now, with tools, nothing is perfect for everything. Have long been at the stage of buying a GFX, but the TechArt adapter for the Zf has changed everything, as well as the fact that the Zf is so good in low light.
Wow this is really interesting I've been on a vintage lens kick lately, I've been shooting them on an old Leica SL 601 body. I've got a Sony body but I never bought the Techart adapter because the performance seemed sub par. I might get the ZF as my vintage autofocus camera. Not to mention I've only got 2 Sony E enses but I could adapt those to Z mount with another adapter.
Sad you dont post on Vero anymore, I don't use Instagram, and your work is so great, makes me want to be better at this. Great video, and great photographer.
i post on glass a lot! glass.photo/iamthesam/6AccdFAqAzYHmdpXJTyCM0
@@iamsamhurdphotography Following you, thanks!
What kind of clips are you using for your camera strap on the Nikon ZF? It looks like you can detach them easily and attach them again.
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How were you able to use old manual focus F mount lenses and Techart to go to Z? I didn't see an F to Z mounts on Techart's website. Thanks
Techart TZM-02 (Leica M to Nikon Z) adapter combined with Nikon F to Leica M adapter. He mentions this in the video.
08:55 you do not want to hold the lens while using its AF, the manual adapter is moving the lens front and back, by holding it you are making it harder to the adapter to do its job and it will wear the motor much faster. I am using those for years on my Sony and I have some service experience already :D
i’m mostly holding it for balance. also worth noting the sony adapter is thinner and weaker
@@iamsamhurdphotography I am just saying as a person who knows what is inside. This newer one (without the bulging part underneath) is more simple at first sight without gears but those 4 motors are maybe a worse idea because if one of them fails ... and again - they have their limitations and if I remember right it was 500g of a lens which is not a lot. I would not count on it working for long with high payloads and resistance from a hand holding the lens.
I still have 2 of the older adapters and one of they broke a gear, the other one had 2 times motor fail problems, but it is still running. I really like the idea of shooting my vintage lenses with one hand because of the AF. Just keep in mind that if you want them to work for long you have to use them with smaller glass :).
Great Video 👏 Thank you
Have to agree about the colours coming out of the old Df, that alone kept me shooting with it, once I put to bed its limitations. The Zf does seem like a true successor to the Df but with amazing autofocus.
exactly right!
Great video! Now I have to go buy one 😂
sorry about that 😂
Great video. ❤❤ from Tel Aviv 🌻
I should probably snag that M mount adapter i was thinking of buying the voigtlander 75mm F/1.5 for my ZF 🤔
should work perfectly
The z6 vs z7 , or z8-9 vs ZF is about a stop difference in high ISO , and for the techart adapter with M lenses , you should set the aperture in camera to match what the lens is set to , not just for exif , but if it’s to far off from what the lens has it will have problems focusing … just my experience
interesting note! i do notice an odd relationship to focusing and exposure being tied to a range of iso that i’m shooting in. they’re doing something odd via software i can’t quite figure out
Thanks Sam, Im a ex Nikon shooter currently Sony A7R5. Im thinking of going back now with the new Z6 III, but I didn't realise Nikon had sorted the AF with this camera.
Got the “japan only” nikon grip for the Zf anD it’s perfect!!
The ring interests me, to mount the summilux, summarit and other Canon in M mount on the ZF. Small and light lenses.
Hey Sam! I recently got the Zf too and love it. The dials are the worst part (imo). Do you have more info somewhere about how you bypassed them. Im struggling with finding an alternative way to setup the shutter speed. I've dug around in the setting a few times and just cant seem to figure it out.
Set the shutter dial to 1/3 step and then you can use the main command dial as you would on other Nikon bodies.
What do you think of the image color compared to Sony? Is it ideal for weddings and portraits?
i actually prefer it to both sony and canon colors.
I loved this review! I'm looking for a backup autofocus camera for my M11 and this seems to fit the bill for everything I'd want. I noticed the Teenage Engineering CM-15 on your table, how is THAT doing in terms of performance??
it’s a wonderful mic!
I am a re-convert to Nikon. I switched to Sony 8 years ago because Nikon autofocus was absolutely abysmal and DSLRs in general had gotten enormous and heavy.
But I bought a Zfc this fall out of curiosity and it shocked me. Nikon colors are so much better than Sony and they really turned their autofocus around to actually be better than Sony. Besides, mirrorless cameras and lenses (besides the Fujis and Zf/Zfc) have grown bigger and heavier to be almost as bloated as the old DSLRs.
I packed up my a7R4 setup and will be trading it in on a new Zf and lens. 😃
indeed, I’m seriously considering jumping back.
I'm not trying to diss your choices. Every camera manufacturer makes awesome cameras these days and Nikon may now work better for you. But you are comparing the autofocus on a 61mp, resolution focused body, that was released in 2019 To a 20mp body released 2 years later. Have you compared it to something like the A74, a75, A1, or even a9/a9ii?
Yes, I’ve borrowed my Sony using co-photographer’s cameras (a7iv, a9ii etc.) and I am still impressed with Nikon’s autofocus performance.
How they went from horrible to world-leading in a few short years surprised me (that’s all I’m saying). Most importantly though, (much more important to me than autofocus) the colors of the Zfc especially in very challenging lighting situations are a world apart from any Sony I’ve used in day to day real world use. Now with the full frame Zf, it’s even better. The way these Nikons are handling color, light and dynamic range are a vast improvement over Sony…. This is from shooting my cameras 6-10 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week (and an equal amount of time editing). Just my personal experience and opinion though of course. 😉
I've also compared it to the a9 @@KEHA14
is there a way to do custom settings/mode recall on the zf?
I don't believe so
I am considering this camera and am already invested in Pentax. Is there an adapter to Pentax K and/M42?
haven't a clue
Thank you for sharing some great options there. Fuji has been designing these type of retro cameras for a while now. We’re do you think Nikon got its inspiration from. Just adding in to your comment at 13:45sec
for sure! I love fuji stuff, but I'm pretty sure nikon got their inspiration from the original nikon f cameras and not fuji
I literally slept on this video a month ago but since i got a ZF I've watched multiple times with glee.
haha, i still love mine too. this grip is my most recent fav $39 www.etsy.com/listing/1611547888/
love the review. my favourite lens was the 55 f1.2 AIS, thou i'm a sony user, i still kept the lens. Could you help me here as I'm trying to understand your adaptor arrangement? You mention mounting a manual F lens on a F to M mount and Techart M to Z mount would enable the auto focus. So I'm guessing manual F to M mount, with techart M to E mount on sony body would work too?
yes, i believe that combo would work too. note that the techart m to e mount adapter does not have the same
functionality as the z mount version. i believe some focus modes are limited on sony
Great review, Sam and I'm so happy Nikon finally came out with a camera like this. I also shot Nikon for 14 years or so and jumped ship after getting the Z7 which was not serious camera for any moving subject. I'm just wondering if the Techart adaptor is not the weak link here? I shoot a lot of multi day South Asian weddings and you are screwed if your autofocus adaptor dies in the middle of one of these events? Do you only use adapted lenses, or do you also have a couple of reliable Z lenses just in case this happens? Even if you're not in the middle of nowhere its still gonna take at least 24-48 hrs to get a new adaptor, presuming BH has it in stock.
so far i have not had any adapter issues - and i also have two adapters. no reason to assume both would fail at the same time, but i do own the 24 1.8, 24-70, and 40 f/2.0 z mount lenses too.
Yeah, that makes sense!
@@iamsamhurdphotography
I shoot with Canon as my main but I also own the Lumix S5II and ZF.
I came across your video while looking for more reviews of Zf. As an amateur I needed a general impressions of a professional working with the camera in real world. I played with the body in a local store (some reviewers mentioned that you need it to see if the body is good for you) and found that it fits my hands very well. Even the button for AF/ON function is right in place for my thumb - some reviewers complained it was placed awkwardly. The body feels slippery but i will definitely buy the small rig grip. Thank you for the video!
very welcome! glad you found it helpful
Wow so my old and beautiful Nikon AIS Glass will AF on the gorgeous ZF. Just wow
Nice & Thanks :)
Really great review. I want one of these, but I'm a total cheapskate, so I will have to wait a while until they appear on the used market. (I anticipate 18 months to 2 years before used Zf's hit a price point to suit me.) Meantime I'm still loving my D3S, D3X, and recently acquired Z6 (original.)
Fair enough! the launch price of the zf was very good for the features tho ;)
I agree with that, but the last brand new camera I ever bought was a Nikon FE some time in the 1980's LOL. @@iamsamhurdphotography
I think the file size on Zf helps a lot to reduce the noise in high ISOs.
Sam you actually stacked two adapters to cause the older Nikon AIS manual focus lens to autofocus on the Zf?
yup
Awesome review just bought mine today B&H, feels like a good addition to anyones arsenal and it will be my first ff camera (currently on Sony a6700)... Quick segway though where the hell did you get that sweater, it's absolute fire... LMAO!!! Cheers...
Good choice!
Sam, Appreciate your thoughts on this. I too am a former Canon user and have sold off all that to go back to Nikon alone. Can i ask what flash brand you are using with your Z cameras, and would you recommend those? Thanks
I'm using my profoto a1 with it perfectly fine!
Has the tehcart adapter worked consistently for you since this video? just got it for a new Zf I bought and I want to use my M lenses.
i’ve had zero issues and used it constantly
I bought the z8 based on your review. Once I start generating enough revenue from that camera I would like to pick this up
nice! nothing wrong with that camera… i just prefer the zf. enjoy either!!
@@iamsamhurdphotography oh I love the nikon z8 so much. I want the zf as a b cam so I can film on different angles. Right now I'm filming multiple times to get different shots. Also for travel photography, the zf with the 40mm f2 seems appealing.
Love your videos and how you present information
Is it possible to use Nikon F "D" lenses and have reliable AF ?
Thank you.
yup!
What adapter is needed ?
I understand that Nikon's adapters support AF only with "G" lenses.
Lower pixel density usually results in lower noise. My 645Z has much better low light noise performance than my D850.
I ordered my Zf at launch, and it's been great. I bought Nikon Z 24-120/4 S as an all purpose lens, and Meike 85/1.4 for portraits. Also an FTZ II to use my F mount lenses.
There's no Fuji-adapter unfortunately. Which is why I've been considering this camera lately.