I don't get people who say this. All this content is just extra that's been made later. So what do you want them to do? Not release anything extra? If you say wait till everything's added, they'd need to charge 3x the average amount for what it's worth. Besides, they could keep on adding and adding and a "complete" edition would NEVER come out.
It's because the vast majority of the extra content was major story stuff. The main game was filled to hell and back with holes only for it to all come out as DLC later down the line. they spent like 10 years on the game to release it unfinished and than basically middle fingered people that beat the game when it came out because all of this stuff would have been much better on a first playthrough.
If you look in the development timeline for FFXV it was a complete shitshow for the better part of a decade and Tabata was handed a dump truck full of lemons. While normally i'll chastise the devs for goldbricking it wasn't completely on them. They have turned a complete shitshow into something that I think will rank right up there with the golden age FF titles.
Yeah, I doubt this is the full version. They'd have to do a lot more if they wanna add in everything that got cut due to time constraints. i.e. A lot more of Insomnia, more Altissia, Cartanica, Paglo, Tenabrae, Ghorvus Rift, Niflheim. Honestly, they cut so much, I would say just keep it simple and just build on Lucis.
Day One for all this content = $60 base game + $20 Season Pass + $20 Royal expansion = $100 Out-of-the-box Royal Edition = $50 S-E, I don't mind the game being completed with content being charged along the way, within reasonable limits. But this sends a very bad message for early buyers of your games. After all, why pay full price for a game on day one or even preorder, when you can wait a whole year and then some, then you can get the game for even LESS than early buyers, with even more content? (And that's not even taking into account aftermarket depreciation!) Could you imagine the day one sales numbers, in that case? It's bad for the industry, it's bad for the players, and most importantly, it's bad for business. Make the non-DLC add-ons FREE for Season Pass holders, or you won't see us giving you money for preorders or day one purchases for a long time.
It's not $20 for the upgrade. Square Enix said that price was listed by mistake. The pricing hasn't been announced yet and will likely be much cheaper. (Inb4 it's actually more expensive).
No. It just means the devs want to add content. Was The Witcher 3 also an early access game for releasing a version of the game with all the DLC or have DLC. Weird how some peoples logic works. If it's a game they like it's not beta or early access, but if it's a game they hate all of a sudden it's the worst thing ever and it's a beta.
i feel it's rather unfair that people who already own the game have to pay extra to get the completed (? who even knows at this point) version of the game when it's what we should have gotten upon release :/
No Name I get what you mean but nahhh this game totally screwed those who bought the original product. Game of the year additions most often will include dlc that doesn’t necessarily add to the main premise of the story. This game however is essentially forcing players to pay more in order to fully understand the story. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
Well its either that or throw in the towel and give it up and move on. I am glad tabata chose the later to give us an experience that IS complete. I think it would be a major slap in the face to us fans that have been literally waiting for 10+ years to see the next major FF entry, if all we got was what was released on launch date. I mean we had to wait 10 years to see another major mainline FF game (not including FF XIII which was handled by a completely different team of developers) no after FF XII, this is actually the next NOMURA based square enix project and you better believe that we would want to enjoy a complete experience after waiting over a decade. So yeah, im all for tabata taking his time and giving us what we deserve as a full complete experience that can stand the test of time and be honorable as a great FF game within the franchise.
MissUVER right? It’s ok. Next time, they won’t see my money until they release whatever the fuck Royal version a year later. I’m only buying from companies that release complete games. Naughty Dog for example.
TokyoAkiHara@Deep doesn’t matter how long a game is. From your answer I guess you are the young generation. Likes 100 hours of crap instead of 25 hours of good stuff. We are talking about quality and not length here. You can make a shitty game with 10 hours as well. Kids nowadays come up with every sort of argument to justify stuff
Thank you Tabata and your team at Luminous for giving us Final Fantasy XV and continued to support the game though it was unfinished. Rare to see developers that commited to try to please most people that were disappointed such as myself. My first and favorite Final Fantasy title.
Me too man, I read early that you had to pay for the new content, then I saw the new bosses and was like my body is ready for you omega, 20 bucks is nothing.
Well...fuck me for buying the game on release..sad to see my favourite franchise going down the road of many AAA publishers selling unfinished games and adding missing content/features as DLC later, it feels as if i paid for an early access version :(
MafiousBJ well at least square is trying something different. From what I understand owners of the base game like u and me (I paid $90 or $100 whatever the steel book with the kingsglaive movie cost) will only have to pay $20 to upgrade the base game to royal edition. Obviously if u got the season pass it still sucks (I haven't gotten any of the dlc or updates believe or not just been a crazy year and half of it without an internet connection. To the ps4) still it's nice they are giving that option over having us pay full price for a new edition.
lcc284 i didn't get any DLC either but just because i felt they left obvious holes to "insert DLC chapter here". It's not a bad game and i enjoyed it but they won't be getting any more money from me for now.
MafiousBJ I can't disagree with the state of the game at launch. I liked the game and all but not the way they handle the plot and I hated the auto driving. For me though $20 when I have it will be fine. Since I want to see what story they have added through dlc and this update. However I won't pay for a whole new edition. For a game I've nearly 100% apart from 2 dungeons I think. Been a while since I played it.
Include this in the season pass or I'll be really pissed. This was my first PS4 game and I've been a fan since day one. I paid for the deluxe edition of the game and the season pass. Treat us properly!
JPM Pranks It's not actually that outrageous, considering all the content announced for the season pass is out. Lots of other games do that just look at Rainbow 6 Seige.
Wow, I never expected so much content to be added. Though honestly what would make this game truly feel complete is a prologue of sorts that takes place inside Insomnia before the fall. As well as a focus on Luna’s character and more scenes with her and Noctis as kids and how their relationship is meaningful aka why I should care about Luna. If there was a prologue in the city introducing Regis, Prompto, Gladio and Ignis, etc properly and their relationships with Noctis then this game could be even better. Perhaps my hopes are too high for that to happen but so much has been done already!
no, we are not obligated to add on content the day of release. episodic dlc was square's plan for this since 2006. we werent cheated. the vanilla product is amazing in itself, so why complain?
FiNiSH Random - base FFXV is hallow as all hell. doesn't tie up close ends, side characters aren't even remotely fleshed out. the main story was short and underwhelming. Even the developers stated they felt the game was unfinished, so spare your naive fanboyism. You're right about one thing, Square Enix did plan to have the episode DLCs before the base game was even released as well as this "Royal Edition" with all DLCs as well as additional added content/PC port.
FiNiSH Random I’m not complaining is just I was totally okay with waiting much longer for the game to turn out to be the best In the series, but I think the pressure to release the game ASAP made the game feel incomplete in my opinion.
I love how SE, with every character is like, 'how do we make them look 10 years older? Oooh, just add a beard'. I guess that's why we haven't seen any female characters after the 10 year skip. They probably require actual work :DDD
no you don't, their gonna release a royal pack for people who have the game hopefully it does not cost more than the other dlc's (5 dollars/£3.99) but we just have to wait and hope until the price is announced that its fair and not ridiculous
My first and last time I'll ever buy a Season Pass... I never imagined that I'd be let down by an FF game. This does look awesome but this truly should be free for everyone who bought the game, if not that then atleast those who bought the season pass
Season pass list what's included, and only covers 2017 content. This is just the new stuff they continued to make after fan feed back and them wanting more stuff.
RufyPK They're going to make a dlc pack called the royal pack and it comes out on the same day, it adds all the unique stuff to the royal edition (royal vessel, story cutscenes, bosses etc.) And it'll be $19.99 USD
Oh, look at that. Just saw on Facebook Square announced the windows edition. Available on Steam, origin and the windows store. Each comes with its own pre-order bonus.
It's good to see that Final Fantasy XV is finally out of its Early Access phase and that it's 1.0 release is imminent. I look forward to finally playing the game now that it's complete. That beta felt like it was going on for well over a year...
And there i'll be a new season pass about 3 dlc for Luna, Ardyn and another one with all the incomplete maps discovered through the exploits now explorable. For a game that began its planning three years before the official launch... and halfway design Nomura has been replaced by Tabata, now I do not want to make controversy but among the 2 I do not know who is worse, on the one hand one who keeps the ass lazy in doing something just to be replaced and the other one who promised things, made dozens trailer and gameplay of content that were then cut in the final version of the game. And more than 1 year after the actual release they have not yet finished developing it by giving fans a BETA version at full price.
Solara then why are you watching the trailer and bitching about it in other comments? Lol if you really didnt care you wouldnt even have watched the trailer let alone comments on a bunch of other comments smh.. bitches looking for attention its sadder then the ending of the game
Man, the game was sold as a complete game by Square Enix, not as an alpha. If they had sold their game as an alpha, then I would agree with their current marketing policy. (season pass, dlc, chapters 13a, royal edition, etc). They even delayed the release of the game by two months to "improve the game and add a lot of content". But even having done that, FFXV seemed so empty and an incomplete game when it was not sold like that. So yes, I felt betrayed especially as a fan of the saga, but also for waiting for 11 years.
Um, you know that Final Mix was released in Japan a long time ago right. Let me put this in perspective, Kingdom Hearts I was released in Japan on March 2002, Kingdom Hearts I Final Mix was released in December 2002. They didn't even wait a year. Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix was released 2 years later.
What if we own the game already? Will the non season pass stuff be added via update? EDIT: Apparently existing owners have to pay $20 to get the new content. Why when every other update was free? Kind of pisses me off
Why? Because this is adding significant new story and gameplay content. Every free update has either been minor additions or a special thank you (character swap).
So 20 dollars we get 4 secret bosses, a roamanle ocean, finally explore insomnia all in a vastly improved luminous engine. Sign me up. That is worth the 20 bucks.
just from the trailer it seems like there's new cutscenes, new dungeon, at least 16 new bosses (since it looked like you fight all the 13 owners of the royal arms) and more. I guess the update is pretty substantial so the $20 probably won't be too bad
I've kinda tolerated Square being slow on releasing all the content for this game and kinda milking it because for what it is I've enjoyed FFXV, but seriously? If you have the game already and have to dish out another $50 just to get all these special additions and extra bosses I'm gonna be so upset. I bought the season pass for a reason, c'mon. Like it seems so ridiculous, I really hope that's not the case.
Allyssa Murphy // It's 20 extra, BUT if you want the new season pass with all new dlc content, you're gonna pay another 25 so, it'll be 45 again if you want everything.
Extras? Nope, sadly this is main-game content, and it should be in the final release of the game. But they want us to pay more. I was sick of it with the DLC with story content before, but this? Urgh.
Fuck this, I spent 100 CAD on the base game and also bought the first season pass. Now I’m gonna have to buy this and the second season pass so I can get the full game that I should’ve gotten before ?
+paul slade Hopefully that means they'll be lowering it, or giving a discount for Season Pass holders or something. If not... Well, I'll still be buying it anyways, even if I won't like it.
People don't seem to realise how much pressure the devs were placed under for the game to release. Everyone forced them to release an unfinished product and you wonder why it feels like early access. You shouldn't be getting mad at the devs, you should be getting mad at the greedy higher ups who force games out early so they can get another million in the bank. Of course the game would have been like this on release, had they been given more time, but greedy execs will be greedy execs
QuantumBlazar LMAO you still defend them evetho they had already delayed the game like how many times? How much of a bullshit excuse can you get for a game that was in development like for almost 5 years?!!
How are people excited about this? SE released an unfinished game two years ago and have been releasing paid DLCs in the meantime and now they want to release a "complete" edition with all the stuff we've already purchased with the incentive of a couple new additions. For the people who have already purchaced the multiplayer, character episodes, and "deluxe editions" this is a huge slap in the face. Its almost like Capcom and its MvC series. When will this end? Sure you don't have to buy it...but there are fans who invested in this game and will want to see the new additions to the story.
The game was not unfinished, it was a finished game, just not the one we wanted. All content that should've been in this beta game was later added for free as far as I know so if it's possible to get this as a second season pass I'm fine with it as they mentioned they didn't know if they wanted to continue expanding FF15 after the last patch to their season pass was finished. The paid DLCs were fine as they mentioned they would give some story to the side characters through DLC during their demos way before the game was releasing. Although multiplayer would've done better as free content to promote it but either choice was fair. Honestly I was mad about how the story felt lacking too. So long as the new additions can be bought as DLC only, I think it's quite fair how they're handling it.
Hayuin The game was obviously rushed when it came out. The first half had some detail and effort in it while making it fun to explore and enjoy the world. Then the second half was SO linear and rushed compared to its first half. The post game was lackluster as well. It also sure feels great to get all of his weapons after the post-game dungeons for Noctis not to at least say a damn thing about it. We got a nice trophy tho.
Awesome Decorate Because I SE used to be one of my favorite companies. FF USED to be my absolute favorite franchise. Its a shame to see that the days of even getting a final fantasy game with a complete story are over... But yeah, we all know that FFXV was rushed because of some deadline issues. Its super obvious that scenes were left out which is why they patched it later. I do believe that kingsglaive and brotherhood were supposed to be actual parts of the game too. My issue is that all of this stuff should have been in the game from the start. They're taking the FFXIV approach (which i also love btw) and patching it like its an MMO. They may as well just add a monthly fee and give us free updates. Lol.
I don't know about FF7 Remake, but I heard a old rumor that KH3 is going to have a final mix version like the past games. Still, I'm worried as well if SE does this.
Actually KH 3 is confirmed to being rushed out for 2018. The studio/developer said "we need more time!" and Square said "You release it by 2018 or you be in trouble."
Daniel FF7 will be released in 'episodes' aka dlcs. You will need to purchase the game multiple time to get the real game. Just play the steam version of ff7. At least they didnt remove everything that made the game popular in exchange for better graphics.
It's gonna get milked like Activision/EA milked COD/BF. I'm a huge fan of ff7, but I'm gonna wait till it's fully completed. Not gonna be spending £50 on each episodes
Unless they overhauled the game when they brought the development back in house, it isn’t going to feel like FF7 at all. From the last trailer it just seems like a remix of 15
Not really defending but i heard the new content will be sold seperately i beleieve, which i'm happy about but still pissed beacuse i already paid like 140 dollars or something for the ultimate edition
Everyone should know by now that this is how they do consumers with games. Why I never purchase DLCs of any big budget title because I know a definitive version will come out. You can't complain about DLCs if you keep buying them.
rang3r34 Thank you. Fucking idiot gamers. Then they have the gall to complain when the industry keeps doing the same greedy shit over and over. Why wouldn't they when the gamer keeps supporting this shit.
I make a list on companies that I do not buy from on release, before it was just ea, now it's ea and square. You get my trust initially, you break it your on that list until I can trust you again, and I'm buying your game only after I know for sure no more dlc is coming out on it and total with game and dlc combined no more than $60.
rang3r34 They don’t really have a choice... what are you supposed to do when you love to play a game, but you hate the way they do business? It’s a lose/lose situation for the consumers. They either pay for the dlc and play the game they consider fun, or just not pay and not play.
After this trailer i don't want Final Fantasy VII remake. FF XV is a good game, but after all this DLC and new version of game with another DLC, i think that with FF VII gamers and fans will get the same amount (or more) of DLC , story expansion etc.
I thought the same. If I have to spend 60$ on a "finished" game and then another 20$ every few months to receive the finally finished FFVII six years later then no, thank you, I don't want to buy that.
Lol No, it's not just FFXV. Phase 1: Sell the day one edition, the season pass. Offer pre-order bonuses, and several tiered bundles. Phase 2: "DLC". Phase 3: Offer an updated version of the game bundled with previous content, normally at a discount. ^ Should sound pretty familiar. I'm not defending SE or saying that this marketing scheme is acceptable, but this is pretty much what the gaming industry entails now. SE and EA both have some strong titles, and now pretty expect their fans to just purchase everything they put out. I know FFXV went through production hell. Then they rushed a release because they didn't think they could survive delaying it again. I would have rather waited longer for a complete game. Many people had already waited a long time anyway.
As far as I love the game, this edition is damn nice for those who waited for a year. But for those who bought the full game plus season pass 1, the additional $20 bucks for the royal contents isn’t a fair price. SE we know you like to milk loyal fans. Please instead add it in season pass 2 or give a lower rate for those who bought the season pass.
I seriously do not expect this particular content to end up free for season pass holders... but I do expect it to be included with season pass 2... in which case, yeah, I can see it costing an additional $20, but then we'll also get more content for the money than what's shown here.
90s to mid 2000s games: "Release every content in one single unit and let that be it" Late 2000s games: "Still release most of the content but keep some back to make a DLC or two" 2010s games: "Give the gamers the bones of the game and make them pay 69 times to get the rest". Prime example: FFXV aka the Bloodsucker. I mean come one, how many fcking DLC, Episode are there? B - U - L - L - S - H -I - T
aqsuperman Actually, games back then still did post game expansions, FF15 was released early because their budget ran dry and it was either that or cancel.
FFXV is bit a prime example. If you want a prime example, look at the destiny franchise. Stop fucking moaning. At the end of the day, we got an amazing game with so much to do, then got lots of other things that cost money. Thats how dlc works
ff15 dlc other than multiplayer is 5 dollars, on top of that games back then sold the same game like 3 times with minor updates Ex: street fighter 2, alpha 2, ultra and super
What's being asked for: Rectification on narratives and deeper character development for the main game itself. More explorable cities such as Tenebrae and pre-ruin Insomnia. What's being offered here: Extra bosses, expanded ruin map and a boat ride - come pay for them!
I gotta say Square-Enix. The amount of effort you guys put into this game was good, but now its gotten even better and I am really happy to say that I am very proud to own this game. Well done.
Superslash Hey, its no problem at all. I still would like to see the original concept myself. It looked great. These things are not that easy to develop over time and to figure out what works and would sell is not a cake walk. Plus making a deadline can be harsh. Rush it too fast and you'll be back at square one. But also, if you're going to take a while giving updated feeds helps to let others know where your status stands. This is a well made game. And I even enjoyed the content they used before the release they have done to keep our faith in the game. The best thing I have seen when I bought the game and opened the case was a simple "Thank you for the support." from the development team.
Too bad they didn't put this amount of effort into the original release. But yes, keep praising mediocrity like a good sheep, till the gaming industry has become 100% cancer.
Wait.... if i want all those extras do i have to pay for the full game again, can i just purchase an upgrade or is it free for those who bought the "expensivest" version?... i feel like these questions need to be answered ASAP.
The game isn't even finished yet. They're planning on releasing some more content, most noteworthy of which is an 'Episode : Ardyn'. Inferior doesn't even cut it, if you only played the base game, you'll be missing out on about 60hrs of content and rising. It's really sad because from the way things are shaping up, this would have been an amazing experience if it were whole. A true final fantasy.
Don't worry tho. If this is their bussiness model now it just means by 2019 we can by the ultimate royal version on pc and not have to worry about paying extra dlc cause we know they'll eventually charge less for all and screw the day one buyers. Or just torrent it
Yeah, im just trying to ignore this game and forget I played it. In about 3 yrs when i've completely forgotten the story and all the content is out I'll play it again.
What are those scenes in the end where cor talks to the Older Noct? In Insomnia? Who are all those people? I played the royal edition and that did never happen?!
I don’t know exactly how u activate it but when you go to chapter select & start the game before you head to the citadel it will activate the Ardyn cutscene & then from there you’ll meet the resistance camp
If royale edition was the main game from day 1 it would’ve been a huge, if not massive success. Like ”Witcher 3-successful”. All the years in development aside, I think they sadly rushed it. You basically have to pay and play the dlc content to fully understand and/or appreciate the grand story. Which is just sad and poorly planned.
Man, sure would have been glad to play all of this when the game first came out. But instead, people had to pay $60 for a beta and more for the dlc to get a better story. And now people have to shill out more money just to get the updates from the Royal Edition. Oh but hey! At least we got some free updates am I right? Seriously, this game and company is a fucking joke. I want to like XV, I really do. I want to support the company that makes this game. I want to get engrossed in this universe. I had high hopes for an amazing story, but me and many others got left with disappointment. Sorry, but until Square proves themselves to do better, I wont be supporting this game and I suggest others do the same...
Devomatics it’s BS that loyal day one $60 customers and buyers of the season pass have to pay yet again another 20 bucks, but pc peeps get to have all of it, the game, the season pass and this at a reduced $50 bucks.
Yeah not to mention the 3 Character dlc's They've got planned after this, don''t get me wrong though i'll probably end up buying when I have a Coupla quid spare, maybe kill a weeekend during easter when i'm bored outta my fucking nut before exam season, either this or far cry, probably this cause it's cheaper to just upgrade but i won't be happy and i'm not happy, but atleast we finally got the full game *eventually* so silver lining, kinda....
You said it mate, you rly sais it. Share Enix are a selfish company. Pool at Three Collectors Editions. You need to pay anyways over 200 dollars/ euros for that less content. Already have dlc and game, and again need to pay? No square. I never Buy again your games for real. FFXV was the last game! Im gonna unsubscripton FFXIV aswell. The contents and addons always include the same rotation... there isnt and Innovation anymore.
Devomatics i waited this game for years, but after all the bullshit i saw square enix did (and still doing) around ffxv... i can't bring myself to buy the game. i really want to support square enix and final fantasy, but i can't do that when the game is full of bad business practices. i hope that ffxvi and ffvii remake will do better than this
So excited for the rest of the episodes. Getting my money worth over and over again with this game. Over 300 hundred hours played so far and happy to put another 10-20 in to see this new content.
"This $20 upgrade Includes all the content of the $25 Season Pass" Cool..... so what about those of us who paid $25 for the Season Pass back in November of 2016? Basically "Screw you, buy what is basically the Season Pass again for $20" while those who didn't buy the Season Pass before are being rewarded for waiting? Because if that's the case I am just going to wait when it comes to future S-E releases too.
Agreed. I do hate waiting, but to have this when I was really emersed into the game would have been awesome. Now, I go back to play other add-ons and it's just not the same.
All this new stuff.........yet....WE STILL DON’T HAVE THE VERSUS XIII OUTFITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, This actually made me tear up 😭😭 Side note* I would actually LOSE MY SHITS if we get Kingdom hearts outfits for all the chocobros
A true saiyan always sprinkles when he tinkles I lowkey always wanted his gun that u see him using in one of the older trailers for the game, it has this steam punk vibe to it that actually suits him very well
Props to the dev team for trying to make it up to us fans. Also thanks to everyone who watched our Stand By Me cover this past year. Can't wait to play FFXV again in its full glory! ruclips.net/video/bXfntsxE3Ok/видео.html
Noctis was in the Crystal for 10 years... plus photosynthesis and farming doesn't go "too well" in 10 years of demon-infested darkness. Play the game next time bud
Hi. Ultimate Collectors Edition buyer here. Also bought the Season Pass. I am perfectly okay with this. This is no different than a GOTY edition with all DLC included (you know, like every other game). I really don't understand why people are upset. Did you honestly not expect the game to lower in price over time? Did you not expect a collection at come point in the future with everything? People complaining have no idea what they are complaining about. Should the Witcher 3 fans complain that people got a deal when they released a GOTY Edition with all DLC for a discounted price? Should KH fans be upset they had to rebuy the game again to get all the Final Mix content? Or FF fans when they had to rebuy the game to get the International Version? This is the same, exact deal here. People are bitching and moaning about Square doing this when it has been done in the past with no issue. But since it's FFXV I guess everyone has to bitch about something.
Do you guys also get upset after every XIV expansion they sell a bundle of the game and its expansions for less that what a buyer on day one has spent over time for all expansions? It would be like bitching about that. The XV haters are some of the worst and most toxic people of this generation and bitch about things that other games do worse than XV.
Yeah I eas thinking about it and this turned out to be peolle moaning like its "I bought a game on release when I could have just waited a couple years fot it to be cheaper" so it's the same game industry just looks prettier
"Any fool can criticize, complain, and condemn-and most fools do. But it takes character and self-control to be understanding and forgiving." - Dale Carnegie
@kevin, Im genuinely confused, but i though the whole story was in the base game right? we have got the whole "experience" from the base game didnt we? this is just add ons just to experience the game in a different way?
asskobeler I see it the dlc as expansions to the story. Honestly the dlc is essential and a must for anyone that even plays 15 just cause it glances over so many important things. You could say they did this on purpose for the money but the game was in development hell so that’s how I look at it
Brandi That's usually true, but Final Fantasy has multiple projects at once now and there was a comment from one of the makers saying XV will keep expanding. There's FFXIV, Dissidia NT, FFVII, all active while XV wasn't even close to being finished.
whyisblue923taken This franchise is one of the worst when it comes to releasing games. I'm paying once and that's it. So whatever is available when I decide to finally upgrade my computer is what I'm getting. We gotta stop supporting this robbery.
DragonStudios94 I highly doubt that. That's false profit for square to do such a thing. It was never stated that we would get this if the player bought the season pass. It's too late to change things now. Square already got a lot of beef with customers that bought the game and season pass on release date as the game was unfinished. Furthermore the company was going to give any everything within the season pass for free but seeing how that would be a scam to paying people. They quickly threw away that idea XD.
HEY! And all it took was 2 more years and forking over more money to get something resembling a finished game! New players enjoy! Early adopters can give them more money!
I loved this game, not only did it piss off the hardcore ff nerds, but it also did well in sales as was the gameplay. old-school ff gamers said that no turn based action ff will be a death to the franchise but instead it is reviving it. finally the gameplay is as good as the story.
oh wow you know my friend you got a shit taste . you know why cause SE just in the beginning of turning like EA but, youd clap your hands together and bad mouthing old school fanbase the reason we old school fanbase still some of us stick to SE just because ff7 remake already many have moved on enjoy your stitched together game praise the bad until it gets even worse
xMysticxbutterflyAMV's lol yeah you're mad. not really a new fan, been playing ff for 15 years. it originally had turn based because the consoles couldn't support fighting games now it can. if you miss it go back to playing super nintendo
lol i hate nintendo as well im not mad you said 15 yeah ? LOL hard time to believe you my friend . 15 is the new business model for tabata and SE to practice their fantasies later on .. so 15 got good sales cause versus fans were waiting for a decade . my own collection half of it are semi over world ... so me being sad about turn based games is not true
Base Game + Season Pass 1 + ROYAL UPDATE + (inevitable) Season Pass 2. So you are basically screwing the people over who bought the base game? Why would you add unique content to this edition? FF15 is STILL not finished.
It can also be that this trailer was just a tease and a look into what tabata has planned, there may be alot more content that he didn't show in this. We still do have confirmed episode DLCS coming but if tabata is smart, he would include all of that in this royal edition.
I don't think thats really the argument here you guys. Had this game been treated differently like Witcher III, Fall out or like Red Dead Redemption with a little zombie addon and many other games that continue to use the DLC model to expand the game, people wouldn't be saying anything bout it nore have any of these hardened complaints. But the fact of the matter is FF XV was "INCOMPLETE" and damn near broken. There for much of the updates and DLC were NOT just post development add-on's or extension, they were integrated into the core experience, changing and altering even some things that should have been in the main game. I see how this frustrates people because mainly, we are not waiting for more content. We are waiting for the game to finally feel like a "finished product" long after its release date. But its at a point now where its water under the bridge. It is what it is, just be patient and wait for the devs to iron out all of the inconsistencies and add certain elements of the story, etc. I think people need to look on the bright side with this tough. Tabata is going the extra mile to make his fans "YOU" all happy with a complete product. He's also listening to his fanbase and catering more towards our needs in terms of content. I can't say the same thing for alot other developers who basically quit or half asses and the end resulted wasn't that great.
Artimes X Right! SE is one of the very few companies that care. Look at the hot mess FFXIV was at its original release. Instead of cancelling that project out right. SE got a whole new team lead by Yoshi P and they have turned that game around so well it's not considered one of the best MMO's out there.
So... eveyone that already owns the game, have season pass and got collectors edition have to pay $20 for extra content. If only we had known it was gonna be THIS good in one package, we all would have waited. Btw the Royal Edition is priced at $50.
TerraFlareKSFL Tbh, if too many people waited, the wouldn't have had the budget to finish the game. That's why it was released early. Square had to do that or cancel the game they invested 14 years of resources into.
I happen to be one of those whom finished XV, loved it, but recognized it's flaws and--as an "avid" fan--agree with the numerous, brilliant theories and overall perspective and such expressed in said videos (most of the time ;). Around the time "character episodes" and other DLC were revealed, I considered waiting for all DLC and such to be released before playing FFXV again; progressively, as more announcements, trailers, rumors, etc., I have chosen to wait until all major updates have been released before starting an entirely new game. In my opinion, an entirely new play through--with all the content Square-Enix plan on releasing--is the definitive way for me to experience FFXV in its entirety, and form a more precise opinion of it (compared to my previous experience). Although my "wish-list" for FFXV hasn't--and won't (unless, by some miracle, the "trials" of Noctis during the ten-year duration--"Versus"--make it into the game...*sigh*...oh well)--completely be fulfilled: seeing this trailer elates me quite a bit. Anyway, I'll rant for hours if I continue, and I really should be working. I'm tired, really haven't said what prompted me to write this, nor do I even remember what I set out to say (being stoned doesn't help), but I'd rather not just end up deleting another comment before finishing...soooo: keep up the good work (love the intro animation, by the way) and Kupo? Kweh? Kweeeeeh?! Back to work... --Nicholas (
Noooooope...gonna wait till the year is over for the "Final Edition" so I'm not paying a crap ton more for this. I really hope moving forward that they don't continue this trend of buying games in pieces cause Square, I can promise you that doing something like this for KH3 or the next FF game, you're gonna get a lot of backlash. Don't be the next EA or Bungie.
Nana Orihara This isn't even it's final form. There are still updates and DLC to come all the way until the end of 2018. So yes your right, just wait until they release the "final update trailer" to buy it.
This is just screwing with the fans who pre-ordered the normal game.. We paid full price for the game + season pass and can now add another 20 bucks to upgrade to royal? While we already paid far more then the 50 bucks that the royal version is going to cost? I smell bullshit square enix... You better make this a free update for season pass holders.. this is where Riots come from..
Yeah, not buying it. Really I bought the season pass and the game, spending over 110 bucks in total. Now throw in another 20? But people who waited one year are better off. Makes sense. In the end I'm spending with the season 2 pass 60€ which is a full priced game, for dlcs only? Yeah NOT FUCKING WORTH IT.
Dunkey Kung Yeah fuck square I moved on to Xenoblade. It's already bad enough the deluxe edition of the game didn't come with the season pass now this shit? Nah, I was hyped so I got deluxe and season pass but I'm not anymore and this is complete and utter bullshit.
Gonna share my two cents. If you're reading this SE, release a full game next time, I'd be happy to wait. The pre-order is the same price as the game without even the DLC, yet it offers a lot more content. This would be fine if we were 10 years in the future and this would be a PS6 remaster. But it is not, it is the exact same game. This really sucks for people who already bought the game. There's gonna be a 20 dollar DLC pack apparently so we can all enjoy these new features, but 20 dollars is like 1/3rd the price of a full game. A few bosses and some mechanics is not worth 1/3rd a full game. I feel this should be released for free to game owners, which is only fair since the royal edition costs the same.
My biggest mistake was to trust SE/Hajime Tabata or whatever, and pre-order the game. Now if I want to have a decent experience with Final Fantasy XV, I need to pay "god-knows-how-many-dollars". Important parts of the story are DLC, fucking Royal Edition or whatever will cost me money... sigh I'm never giving SE money again. I'm done. Final Fantasy is a great franchise, means a lot to me. But when I sit down and think about the situation of FFXV, I just get crazy sad.
It’s not Tabata it’s Nomura who fucking failed to begin with. Tabata is only responsible for the game direction and not sales or marketing. This is essentially a game of the year edition and it’s y’alls fault for showing square it was okay to let Nomura have his way by supporting KH’s releases and FF7’s mini franchise.
TerasXertas lol 500 damage. That’s like a single hit midgame. Idc if it does damage or not so I’m not complaining about that, I just think it’s funny that in showcasing all the new features they’ve added in, they include the regalia going *tink* on an enemy
Please clear up some confusions atleast in the link or description... Do season pass holders get this dlc? Do people with the base game have to buy the game again to get the additional content or will it be dlc?
As a day 1 and a season pass owner, its not right to screw the most loyal fan, by making the new royal content as a separate DLC for 20 dollars, the fact that you guys are talking about a season pass 2, i guess that its not part of the new "royal DLC".
You know what other Square Enix game did something similar Rise of Tomb raider when they released on ps4 with all content, the extras were later put back on xone version and free for those who bought the season pass, so its not surreal to ask Square Enix to put royal content free for those who purchased the season pass in the first place. The royal content itself looks like the free updates that non season pass player where getting during the last year.
Sorry to rant, but here goes... Square Enix 'royally' screwing over loyal fans, charging more for this content that should have been in the game at launch. Just goes to show you that Square Enix corporate knew that FFXV needed 2 more years to complete it, but they released it early and unfinished deliberately to cash in on the name of Final Fantasy that has made them billions. They didn't care what kind of product you would receive or what kind of experience you would have with FFXV. This was all done by design, slicing up the FFXV story into Kingsglaive, Brotherhood and the unfinished game of FFXV, released with deliberate plot holes to charge you for the Episodes of the bros. And now once again Square Enix is releasing a royal edition with what looks like the 'rest' of the story so they can charge you more... is it $20?! What a ripoff! I know a ripoff when I see one; Square Enix you are ripping off your loyal customers and I take great umbrage with that. I was a loyal fan until the PS3 era, I have wanted to continue playing new Final Fantasy games, but I do not support the direction Square Enix has taken the Final Fantasy franchise and I especially dislike the practices Square Enix is doing with season passes. You are taking advantage of digital downloading capabilities to take advantage of your consumers! I take great umbrage with how my favorite series has been handled Square Enix; I want to believe your staff are talented enough to create another classic game like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VII - Give us a great comprehensible single player game that is released 'complete' and rivals the titles released in the days of Squaresoft. If your game is deserving of a $100 price tag, then so be it, put it on one disc or two! Just make a great game and I'll have confidence in your company to support you once again.
But they also have more dlc coming this year so wait two years for a game that took 10 years to make. I think SE has a really bad bussiness model and it will seep into ff7 remake... so. I'll be getting this one by the time that remake comes out
i bought the game 3 months after the release and completed it unless than 50 hours and now there's a new release of the same game,but with added bonuses that they didn't include in the first and freaking DLCs?WTF!
+kewlbot I was salty at just the season pass before, but I accepted it because in today's gaming industry, you need to accept that when you pay $60 for a game, you're not getting the whole game. But if they lock content that should have ACTUALLY been in the game at release behind a separate full price version, I swear to god...
These types of practices are getting old We know fighting game companies do it all the time, but to see this from a RPG much less Square is ridiculous. Screw day one owners and loyal fans
Why would being a day one owner give you some kinda special privilege? Did you complain like this when Brood War was released for StarCraft, too? Or when Lord of Destruction was announced for Diablo II?
I don't play them either. My point still stands; I cannot recall people complaining about expansions and stuff like that until quite recently. When Sonic 3 got its "& Knuckles" addition, when War Craft 3 got its "Frozen Throne" expansion, when Dark Souls III got its "Ashes of Ariandel" and "Ringed City" DLCs... people didn't complain back then... Why, exactly, are people complaining about this now?
GrahamChapman i have a theory about this i cant tell for sonic and warcraft 3 but for dark souls 3 the expension you mention its in the season pass but for ff15 the additional stuff of the royal edition are not in them.Some player who buy the "complete" ff15 edition might feel betrayed and the fact that story was meh and that we needed to buy dlc just to understand a little bit better the whole story its not good this royal edition just pour salt on the wound.
In other words...they are finally releasing the REAL Final Fantasy XV in March 2018.
O'Neil Gerald not really
I don't get people who say this. All this content is just extra that's been made later. So what do you want them to do? Not release anything extra? If you say wait till everything's added, they'd need to charge 3x the average amount for what it's worth. Besides, they could keep on adding and adding and a "complete" edition would NEVER come out.
It's because the vast majority of the extra content was major story stuff. The main game was filled to hell and back with holes only for it to all come out as DLC later down the line. they spent like 10 years on the game to release it unfinished and than basically middle fingered people that beat the game when it came out because all of this stuff would have been much better on a first playthrough.
whose to say the game is even done yet lol
If you look in the development timeline for FFXV it was a complete shitshow for the better part of a decade and Tabata was handed a dump truck full of lemons. While normally i'll chastise the devs for goldbricking it wasn't completely on them. They have turned a complete shitshow into something that I think will rank right up there with the golden age FF titles.
Remember the days when a FF title launched and you got the whole game?
yeah, most recently it was november 2016
Oh? What title was that? Because it sure as shit wasn't FFXV.
it was final fantasy xv
I respectfully disagree, as evidenced by the multitude of add-ons.
I do. Getting each new FF on PS1 for christmas were some of my fondest childhood memories
Can't wait for Final Fantasy XV - COMPLETE ROYAL EDITION.
Coming in 2050!
What about ULTIMATE COMPLETE SPECIAL ROYAL EDITION?
It will long forgotten by then LMAO
nahhh FFXVI+ is already out, prolly a remastered for this by 2050
FFXV REMAKE!! ^_^
Filip Jęcz LOL
i feel sorry for the people who bought the original now that they've finally released the full game
Dragonkid1801 good thing I got this game for Christmas . XD now I just gotta pay for the DLC
Sad fact is: Its STILL not a full game lol. There are more Story DLC Chapter and patches planned for the whole 2018!
Get ready for the Royal ULTIMA edition in 2019
You mean the beta? Lol
Yeah, I doubt this is the full version. They'd have to do a lot more if they wanna add in everything that got cut due to time constraints. i.e. A lot more of Insomnia, more Altissia, Cartanica, Paglo, Tenabrae, Ghorvus Rift, Niflheim. Honestly, they cut so much, I would say just keep it simple and just build on Lucis.
Still waiting for the Finally Complete Fantasy XV: No-More-DLC PLATINUM GOLD Edition
Alan Wong and Knuckles
Alan Wong good louk
I believe you're forgetting Final Mix
Andres Gonzalez Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
see you in 2019. maybe
Never played this game, but i like how the older Noctis looks like
Same with me.also for me adult Noctis looks more like Ardyn's son than like Somnus' descendant
Is looks like Keanu Reeves😂
Everyone who played the game at launch THANK YOU for playing the extended BETA
now the real game is coming out :)
Shit xDDDDD
nope, the beta was episode duscae. we've had the real game since november 2016
I think you don't get the joke my fella XD
FiNiSH Random whoosh
Distracted Observer no worries i sold it
Day One for all this content = $60 base game + $20 Season Pass + $20 Royal expansion = $100
Out-of-the-box Royal Edition = $50
S-E, I don't mind the game being completed with content being charged along the way, within reasonable limits.
But this sends a very bad message for early buyers of your games. After all, why pay full price for a game on day one or even preorder, when you can wait a whole year and then some, then you can get the game for even LESS than early buyers, with even more content? (And that's not even taking into account aftermarket depreciation!) Could you imagine the day one sales numbers, in that case?
It's bad for the industry, it's bad for the players, and most importantly, it's bad for business.
Make the non-DLC add-ons FREE for Season Pass holders, or you won't see us giving you money for preorders or day one purchases for a long time.
BARRR at least you didn’t pour 600$ CAD into the collector at launch and receive it two months later.
SE has become AIDES
But there were free updates during the entire year for 2017 for every month. Including a few major updates events.
It's not $20 for the upgrade. Square Enix said that price was listed by mistake. The pricing hasn't been announced yet and will likely be much cheaper.
(Inb4 it's actually more expensive).
I'm afraid to see the mess that the FFVII remake will no doubt become. If it even becomes *anything* other than vaporware at all.
This is bullshit and absolutely amazing! This is what the game should have released from the start! It honestly looks awesome!!
FINAL FANTASY XV FULL GAME EDITION!!!
Plangpisut na prasri good luck waiting 4 years for all the patches and cliffhangers to be corrected
Still got the second season pass to wait for
Roymungus it's rumored but Square Enix has been dropping heavy hints about it.
So this confirms that FFXV was out on Early Access.
If it works for PUBG, why not!
So glad I payed $90 for this shit. I'm not giving them $160 to play the game I was promised.
no? it confirms there's more coming and we should be excited. idk what trailer you watched lol
Hit the nail on the head Tsakane
No. It just means the devs want to add content. Was The Witcher 3 also an early access game for releasing a version of the game with all the DLC or have DLC. Weird how some peoples logic works. If it's a game they like it's not beta or early access, but if it's a game they hate all of a sudden it's the worst thing ever and it's a beta.
initial reaction : "no one asked for this tho"
after watching the trailer: "FUCKING TAKE MY MONEY AND MY SOUL DADDY"
Final Fantasy XV: Bend over and ROYALLY screw me Edition.
Final Fantasy XV Not Done Milking Edition
Beta 0.1.20
fucking true !!!
Its part of the Season Pass
No it’s not
I got a Whatsapp Message from SE Germany and they say its part of the Season Pass!
Well they are lying to you, you have pay for the new content separately or buy this edition, the first season pass is officially over
How does it feel beta testing the game for 1 year?
TheCorbenik slap in my fucking face :/ !!
I returned it after a week and got my money back. Cant wait for it to be completely done.
Basically same as pubg for me lol
TheCorbenik The game is not out of Beta. It will release in a severely cut version February 2019.
Even though there are 3 more DLC's.
Doubtful, it will be much better than the base release.
i feel it's rather unfair that people who already own the game have to pay extra to get the completed (? who even knows at this point) version of the game when it's what we should have gotten upon release :/
nicky schreuder haven't you learned anything, stop pre-ordering
It is not going to be the price of a full game, its going be listed as 19.99 Update for those of us who own the physical game already.
No Name I get what you mean but nahhh this game totally screwed those who bought the original product. Game of the year additions most often will include dlc that doesn’t necessarily add to the main premise of the story. This game however is essentially forcing players to pay more in order to fully understand the story. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
Well its either that or throw in the towel and give it up and move on. I am glad tabata chose the later to give us an experience that IS complete. I think it would be a major slap in the face to us fans that have been literally waiting for 10+ years to see the next major FF entry, if all we got was what was released on launch date. I mean we had to wait 10 years to see another major mainline FF game (not including FF XIII which was handled by a completely different team of developers) no after FF XII, this is actually the next NOMURA based square enix project and you better believe that we would want to enjoy a complete experience after waiting over a decade. So yeah, im all for tabata taking his time and giving us what we deserve as a full complete experience that can stand the test of time and be honorable as a great FF game within the franchise.
Artimes X but he didnt
Wow square just took a giant shit on the people who decided to buy this game at launch. RIP to the ultimate edition buyers
MissUVER right? It’s ok. Next time, they won’t see my money until they release whatever the fuck Royal version a year later. I’m only buying from companies that release complete games. Naughty Dog for example.
Naughty Dog and their 10 hour games. Right.
TokyoAkiHara@Deep doesn’t matter how long a game is. From your answer I guess you are the young generation. Likes 100 hours of crap instead of 25 hours of good stuff. We are talking about quality and not length here. You can make a shitty game with 10 hours as well. Kids nowadays come up with every sort of argument to justify stuff
it s not 20 euros. For new content i think it s pretty ok to pay ir. You know ....development costs 😂
Noir Rain same but I literally bought this game in second hand yesterday and now this 😑😂
Thank you Tabata and your team at Luminous for giving us Final Fantasy XV and continued to support the game though it was unfinished.
Rare to see developers that commited to try to please most people that were disappointed such as myself.
My first and favorite Final Fantasy title.
*yawn* ill just wait for Final Fantasy XV-2: 2.9 HD ReMix Final Chapter Royal Prologue Deluxe Edition
Gianni Vargas-Navalta then you will be waiting for nothing=time wasted
Gianni Vargas-Navalta or you can just play ALL THE OTHER FINAL FANTASY GAMES
if i can wait 13yrs for Kingdom Hearts 3,i can wait for this game ;)
Ha! You right.
😂🤣🤣🤣
Gotta be honest, I screamed like a teenager when the new bosses popped out.
Matthew Shezmen lol I am a teenager and screamed also I feel ya
Me too man, I read early that you had to pay for the new content, then I saw the new bosses and was like my body is ready for you omega, 20 bucks is nothing.
good i wasnt alone lol
Me too
Matthew Shezmen hey shez, you know what this means (new animation)
Well...fuck me for buying the game on release..sad to see my favourite franchise going down the road of many AAA publishers selling unfinished games and adding missing content/features as DLC later, it feels as if i paid for an early access version :(
MafiousBJ well at least square is trying something different. From what I understand owners of the base game like u and me (I paid $90 or $100 whatever the steel book with the kingsglaive movie cost) will only have to pay $20 to upgrade the base game to royal edition. Obviously if u got the season pass it still sucks (I haven't gotten any of the dlc or updates believe or not just been a crazy year and half of it without an internet connection. To the ps4) still it's nice they are giving that option over having us pay full price for a new edition.
*you pay for the all hype version*
lcc284 i didn't get any DLC either but just because i felt they left obvious holes to "insert DLC chapter here". It's not a bad game and i enjoyed it but they won't be getting any more money from me for now.
MafiousBJ I can't disagree with the state of the game at launch. I liked the game and all but not the way they handle the plot and I hated the auto driving. For me though $20 when I have it will be fine. Since I want to see what story they have added through dlc and this update. However I won't pay for a whole new edition. For a game I've nearly 100% apart from 2 dungeons I think. Been a while since I played it.
MafiousBJ I feel you bro same here... Are we seeing same fate for Final Fantasy VII Remake?
Include this in the season pass or I'll be really pissed. This was my first PS4 game and I've been a fan since day one. I paid for the deluxe edition of the game and the season pass. Treat us properly!
Feel the same bro !
Not cool if it doesn't come included within the season pass. Not cool.
Royal DLC is 2000 Yen for Japan.
JPM Pranks It's not actually that outrageous, considering all the content announced for the season pass is out. Lots of other games do that just look at Rainbow 6 Seige.
HAHA FUCK YOU GIVE US MORE MONEY.
WAIT WHAT. I WASN'T EXPECTING ALL THESE ADDITIONS
London SAME! THIS IS CRAZY!
I get you, it's beautiful
I SWEAR
Mind Blown!!
Ready to pay up, boy?
i never going to buy a game on launch again..
Feels bad man.. I brought digital.. Can't even trade it in.
Same. Though i admit i enjoyed playing through it,,, it just felt so empty for a final fantasy game.storywise anyhow
Depends on company, atlus did wonderful on persona 5
I wish I could just play persona 6, use to be such a square fan and now they're selling out hard as fuck. Pieces of shit.
Don't ever trust AAA devs again.
It seems we have been ROYALLY screwed over.
I bent over and bought this game, it is such and honor to be ROYALLY screwed in my backside.
lolololol
exactly my tought. we paid to be beta testers. we should be mentionned in the credits !
we got a standard 2018 hater right here. hello Henry N. how's your life ? feels good when you insult people ? i hope so!
Geo my thought exactly
I have no words, i paid for a extended beta.
Fabio Noce I'm speechless, they are charging their players for "the complete edition", which kinda makes previous FFXV copy obsolete.
as a proud pc owner; yes, you did boy..
Time to waste even more of my non-existent money 😢
Blond Gabriel I'm a pc gamer too. But people like you should stfu. Stop trying to instigate console wars
im just getting my soul ready for kh3 Beta
Wow, I never expected so much content to be added.
Though honestly what would make this game truly feel complete is a prologue of sorts that takes place inside Insomnia before the fall. As well as a focus on Luna’s character and more scenes with her and Noctis as kids and how their relationship is meaningful aka why I should care about Luna.
If there was a prologue in the city introducing Regis, Prompto, Gladio and Ignis, etc properly and their relationships with Noctis then this game could be even better. Perhaps my hopes are too high for that to happen but so much has been done already!
I mean there was the anime
Bueno, hay una película sobre la caída de Imsomnia y anime donde se ven las historias de ignis, gladious y prompto
This is what should have been out on day one all together.
Along with Episode Ardyn coming this year and whatever other episodes they plan to make
no, we are not obligated to add on content the day of release. episodic dlc was square's plan for this since 2006. we werent cheated. the vanilla product is amazing in itself, so why complain?
FiNiSH Random - base FFXV is hallow as all hell. doesn't tie up close ends, side characters aren't even remotely fleshed out. the main story was short and underwhelming. Even the developers stated they felt the game was unfinished, so spare your naive fanboyism. You're right about one thing, Square Enix did plan to have the episode DLCs before the base game was even released as well as this "Royal Edition" with all DLCs as well as additional added content/PC port.
FiNiSH Random I’m not complaining is just I was totally okay with waiting much longer for the game to turn out to be the best In the series, but I think the pressure to release the game ASAP made the game feel incomplete in my opinion.
They should have made these updates free just because they gave us incomplete game thats the reason i wont jump back to this game
I HAVE TO STOP BUYING VIDEO GAMES DURING THEIR FIRST RELEASE, SO I CAN *WAIT FOR "SPECIAL EDITIONS"* LIKE THIS ONE
I love how SE, with every character is like, 'how do we make them look 10 years older? Oooh, just add a beard'. I guess that's why we haven't seen any female characters after the 10 year skip. They probably require actual work :DDD
Still trying to see that 26 year old Iris lol
I thought I was the only one wondering about that xD
Idiotic comment. Noctis' face is completely different at 30 when he doesn't have the beard. Look it up.
Hey, you got Kingdom Hearts in my Final Fantasy.
GOOFY HYPE
I don’t get it... is it because Cerberus is in the game?
CakeIsTasty- yy I think it’s because they released so many rehashes and updates of the same game before moving on to the next one
Soul King ooohhh... and just like kingdom hearts I’m gonna end up wasting money on this too... oh well :(
Yoko Shimomura confirmed she composed this song
so we need to buy this again? *Tidas laugh*
Someone make a video meme about this please
no you don't, their gonna release a royal pack for people who have the game hopefully it does not cost more than the other dlc's (5 dollars/£3.99) but we just have to wait and hope until the price is announced that its fair and not ridiculous
🤣🤣🤣 The Tidus laugh made this an epic comment.
It’s not only for PC though.. dumb ass
Dar-Ken Brillanté -American Star- If he only knew how to spell it tho.
Brothers and sisters, I ask you to stand by me and fight by my side for the light and for future of our world!
My first and last time I'll ever buy a Season Pass... I never imagined that I'd be let down by an FF game. This does look awesome but this truly should be free for everyone who bought the game, if not that then atleast those who bought the season pass
Its worth every penny ... why do u guys want square enix to go bankrupt i am just glad we are getting another good dlc expansion.
Agreed, square is the Japanese EA at this point
Wait this isn't available if I already own the season pass? Wtf?
Ero Manga Sensei bankrupt i you kidding me
Season pass list what's included, and only covers 2017 content. This is just the new stuff they continued to make after fan feed back and them wanting more stuff.
They basically don't give a fuck of day one players
RufyPK They're going to make a dlc pack called the royal pack and it comes out on the same day, it adds all the unique stuff to the royal edition (royal vessel, story cutscenes, bosses etc.) And it'll be $19.99 USD
@Max
Except the very video advertising it says otherwise. You're trying really hard to find a reason to be sassy with thus, huh?
Nomi Yoko False advertisment I guess😂😂 but I'm totally buying it lol
$20 or less (price to be redetermined) for an upgrade to existing owners. I'm pretty sure you're just salty for the sake of acting salty.
www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xv-royal-edition-update-19-99-price-mistake/
wrong
Gimme the PC version for Bahamut's sake!
Apparently coming march 6th, we will have it soon enough.
PC version is supposed to be announced beginning of next month followed by pre-orders, then release somewhat soon after that.
Its coming out the same day on Steam.
Oh, look at that. Just saw on Facebook Square announced the windows edition. Available on Steam, origin and the windows store. Each comes with its own pre-order bonus.
Speaking of which, it'd be really nice to get Bahamut as a post-game summon.
It's good to see that Final Fantasy XV is finally out of its Early Access phase and that it's 1.0 release is imminent.
I look forward to finally playing the game now that it's complete. That beta felt like it was going on for well over a year...
Michael O'Connor No kidding. Unfortunately, I’ve already moved on and there’s nothing Square can do to salvage this title for me. =/
Thank you Square Enix to shit to the mouth of the first buyers of the game and season pass!
Danny Gonzalez don't blame him. We thought they would've been done with it by now.
And there i'll be a new season pass about 3 dlc for Luna, Ardyn and another one with all the incomplete maps discovered through the exploits now explorable. For a game that began its planning three years before the official launch... and halfway design Nomura has been replaced by Tabata, now I do not want to make controversy but among the 2 I do not know who is worse, on the one hand one who keeps the ass lazy in doing something just to be replaced and the other one who promised things, made dozens trailer and gameplay of content that were then cut in the final version of the game. And more than 1 year after the actual release they have not yet finished developing it by giving fans a BETA version at full price.
Thank God the game was a piece of shit anyways to care about it anymore
Solara then why are you watching the trailer and bitching about it in other comments? Lol if you really didnt care you wouldnt even have watched the trailer let alone comments on a bunch of other comments smh.. bitches looking for attention its sadder then the ending of the game
Man, the game was sold as a complete game by Square Enix, not as an alpha. If they had sold their game as an alpha, then I would agree with their current marketing policy. (season pass, dlc, chapters 13a, royal edition, etc). They even delayed the release of the game by two months to "improve the game and add a lot of content". But even having done that, FFXV seemed so empty and an incomplete game when it was not sold like that. So yes, I felt betrayed especially as a fan of the saga, but also for waiting for 11 years.
so final mix?
Mix and Remix is with KH and TWEWY which is Nomura's children. FF XV used to be one though....
those are fine and years after, adding to a complete game 5-10 years is fine but one year after release is stupid.
Um, you know that Final Mix was released in Japan a long time ago right. Let me put this in perspective, Kingdom Hearts I was released in Japan on March 2002, Kingdom Hearts I Final Mix was released in December 2002. They didn't even wait a year. Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix was released 2 years later.
What if we own the game already? Will the non season pass stuff be added via update?
EDIT: Apparently existing owners have to pay $20 to get the new content. Why when every other update was free? Kind of pisses me off
Source?
Why? Because this is adding significant new story and gameplay content. Every free update has either been minor additions or a special thank you (character swap).
So 20 dollars we get 4 secret bosses, a roamanle ocean, finally explore insomnia all in a vastly improved luminous engine.
Sign me up. That is worth the 20 bucks.
just from the trailer it seems like there's new cutscenes, new dungeon, at least 16 new bosses (since it looked like you fight all the 13 owners of the royal arms) and more. I guess the update is pretty substantial so the $20 probably won't be too bad
Why would all of this amount of content be free? $20 is good price for these many new contents.
I've kinda tolerated Square being slow on releasing all the content for this game and kinda milking it because for what it is I've enjoyed FFXV, but seriously? If you have the game already and have to dish out another $50 just to get all these special additions and extra bosses I'm gonna be so upset. I bought the season pass for a reason, c'mon. Like it seems so ridiculous, I really hope that's not the case.
Hubris well I guess that's better than 50 or $60! I hope it's really worth it. Judging by the trailer it will be, but I'll wait and see.
I those extra bosses are free updates
The extra stuff is 20 if you have ffxv. It doesn't come with previous dlc etc unless you buy it and don't own the game, in which case it's 50
Allyssa Murphy // It's 20 extra, BUT if you want the new season pass with all new dlc content, you're gonna pay another 25 so, it'll be 45 again if you want everything.
Extras? Nope, sadly this is main-game content, and it should be in the final release of the game. But they want us to pay more. I was sick of it with the DLC with story content before, but this? Urgh.
And here I am glad I didn't a spend a dime on any of the DLC yet.
Because I knew something like this would happen.
Kazuko Kirigaya I'm in the same situation and I'm so excited :D
I’m in the same boat as well
Yay I love waiting for more in a game
Wish I knew what the name of the music in the background was
Fuck this, I spent 100 CAD on the base game and also bought the first season pass. Now I’m gonna have to buy this and the second season pass so I can get the full game that I should’ve gotten before ?
You were a fool to part with so much money before seeing the shit reviews, my friend. This game was not, as Gaben might say, "worth the weight."
Antiform The reviews were 8's and 9's. And it got a goty award. Not everyone is a salty bitch like you seem to think. Lol.
Yea, they gave it glowing reviews 8 and 9s all around..Hardly anybody gave it a "Shit Review".
I'm guessing you are talking about IGN and GameStop? If so I advise going to more competent reviewers.
I think its disgusting i have to pay more for the extra added content when i bought the game and season pass all at full price. Shame on you squArE.
i kinda bought the season pass with the digital deluxe and i'm not even mad lol - just bought them together
LASHINGS UK Thats what i did on release but we shouldnt be expected to buy an additional add on now aswell.
Its part of the Season Pass
DragonStudios94 no we have to pay extra to upgrade, it was at $20 but they have removed the price tag and said it will be updated
+paul slade Hopefully that means they'll be lowering it, or giving a discount for Season Pass holders or something. If not... Well, I'll still be buying it anyways, even if I won't like it.
People don't seem to realise how much pressure the devs were placed under for the game to release. Everyone forced them to release an unfinished product and you wonder why it feels like early access. You shouldn't be getting mad at the devs, you should be getting mad at the greedy higher ups who force games out early so they can get another million in the bank. Of course the game would have been like this on release, had they been given more time, but greedy execs will be greedy execs
QuantumBlazar LMAO you still defend them evetho they had already delayed the game like how many times? How much of a bullshit excuse can you get for a game that was in development like for almost 5 years?!!
Amirul Faisal most of the game was developed in 18 months.
Ace Hermit what? That's a pile load of crap. Since when an AAA game only takes 18 months to be finished? Tf outta here
Amirul Faisal you misunderstand. Most of FFXV was made in 18 months. It was a rushed product.
How are people excited about this? SE released an unfinished game two years ago and have been releasing paid DLCs in the meantime and now they want to release a "complete" edition with all the stuff we've already purchased with the incentive of a couple new additions.
For the people who have already purchaced the multiplayer, character episodes, and "deluxe editions" this is a huge slap in the face. Its almost like Capcom and its MvC series. When will this end?
Sure you don't have to buy it...but there are fans who invested in this game and will want to see the new additions to the story.
The game was not unfinished, it was a finished game, just not the one we wanted. All content that should've been in this beta game was later added for free as far as I know so if it's possible to get this as a second season pass I'm fine with it as they mentioned they didn't know if they wanted to continue expanding FF15 after the last patch to their season pass was finished. The paid DLCs were fine as they mentioned they would give some story to the side characters through DLC during their demos way before the game was releasing. Although multiplayer would've done better as free content to promote it but either choice was fair. Honestly I was mad about how the story felt lacking too. So long as the new additions can be bought as DLC only, I think it's quite fair how they're handling it.
Hayuin The game was obviously rushed when it came out. The first half had some detail and effort in it while making it fun to explore and enjoy the world. Then the second half was SO linear and rushed compared to its first half. The post game was lackluster as well. It also sure feels great to get all of his weapons after the post-game dungeons for Noctis not to at least say a damn thing about it. We got a nice trophy tho.
Awesome Decorate Because I SE used to be one of my favorite companies. FF USED to be my absolute favorite franchise. Its a shame to see that the days of even getting a final fantasy game with a complete story are over...
But yeah, we all know that FFXV was rushed because of some deadline issues. Its super obvious that scenes were left out which is why they patched it later. I do believe that kingsglaive and brotherhood were supposed to be actual parts of the game too. My issue is that all of this stuff should have been in the game from the start. They're taking the FFXIV approach (which i also love btw) and patching it like its an MMO. They may as well just add a monthly fee and give us free updates. Lol.
oh no...
im a bit scared for KH III and FF7 Remake now....
Daniel i’m worry that they will treat KH3 like this, giving a beta then publish a whole new edition with new content.
Daniel KH 3 won't get treated like this. It's not going through development hell like FFXV did
I don't know about FF7 Remake, but I heard a old rumor that KH3 is going to have a final mix version like the past games. Still, I'm worried as well if SE does this.
Actually KH 3 is confirmed to being rushed out for 2018. The studio/developer said "we need more time!" and Square said "You release it by 2018 or you be in trouble."
Daniel FF7 will be released in 'episodes' aka dlcs. You will need to purchase the game multiple time to get the real game. Just play the steam version of ff7. At least they didnt remove everything that made the game popular in exchange for better graphics.
FF7 Remake has no hope. Square will try to milk it so hard
Its gonna be shit and you know it.
It's gonna get milked like Activision/EA milked COD/BF. I'm a huge fan of ff7, but I'm gonna wait till it's fully completed. Not gonna be spending £50 on each episodes
they will split it into 10 games
Unless they overhauled the game when they brought the development back in house, it isn’t going to feel like FF7 at all. From the last trailer it just seems like a remix of 15
That's the plan.
Every square Enix employee and people defending this company will be reported to the kgb
report me now and just fck me up lol
LMFAO!!!
Not really defending but i heard the new content will be sold seperately i beleieve, which i'm happy about but still pissed beacuse i already paid like 140 dollars or something for the ultimate edition
Everyone should know by now that this is how they do consumers with games. Why I never purchase DLCs of any big budget title because I know a definitive version will come out. You can't complain about DLCs if you keep buying them.
rang3r34 Thank you. Fucking idiot gamers. Then they have the gall to complain when the industry keeps doing the same greedy shit over and over. Why wouldn't they when the gamer keeps supporting this shit.
SHIN BAKI HANMA you both said exactly what I wanted to say
rang3r34 nbhjhx
I make a list on companies that I do not buy from on release, before it was just ea, now it's ea and square. You get my trust initially, you break it your on that list until I can trust you again, and I'm buying your game only after I know for sure no more dlc is coming out on it and total with game and dlc combined no more than $60.
rang3r34 They don’t really have a choice... what are you supposed to do when you love to play a game, but you hate the way they do business? It’s a lose/lose situation for the consumers. They either pay for the dlc and play the game they consider fun, or just not pay and not play.
What about current owners of the game and season pass? Will we get these new features too?
Shinkei DEI nah its 50 dollars us
It will be released as an expansion pack to people who already own the game for 20$
It includes everything except the episodes and Comrades
After this trailer i don't want Final Fantasy VII remake.
FF XV is a good game, but after all this DLC and new version of game with another DLC, i think that with FF VII gamers and fans will get the same amount (or more) of DLC , story expansion etc.
I thought the same. If I have to spend 60$ on a "finished" game and then another 20$ every few months to receive the finally finished FFVII six years later then no, thank you, I don't want to buy that.
pirzol89 this is just a ff15 thing xD
I hope so :)
Lol No, it's not just FFXV.
Phase 1: Sell the day one edition, the season pass. Offer pre-order bonuses, and several tiered bundles.
Phase 2: "DLC".
Phase 3: Offer an updated version of the game bundled with previous content, normally at a discount.
^ Should sound pretty familiar.
I'm not defending SE or saying that this marketing scheme is acceptable, but this is pretty much what the gaming industry entails now. SE and EA both have some strong titles, and now pretty expect their fans to just purchase everything they put out.
I know FFXV went through production hell. Then they rushed a release because they didn't think they could survive delaying it again. I would have rather waited longer for a complete game. Many people had already waited a long time anyway.
More, way more. FF7R is supposed to be in 3 parts. The first DLC will be Cloud selling ramen for sure
As far as I love the game, this edition is damn nice for those who waited for a year. But for those who bought the full game plus season pass 1, the additional $20 bucks for the royal contents isn’t a fair price. SE we know you like to milk loyal fans. Please instead add it in season pass 2 or give a lower rate for those who bought the season pass.
Looks like they announced the price by error? But damage is done with the misleading info, hope it end up free for season pass holder.
I seriously do not expect this particular content to end up free for season pass holders... but I do expect it to be included with season pass 2... in which case, yeah, I can see it costing an additional $20, but then we'll also get more content for the money than what's shown here.
90s to mid 2000s games: "Release every content in one single unit and let that be it"
Late 2000s games: "Still release most of the content but keep some back to make a DLC or two"
2010s games: "Give the gamers the bones of the game and make them pay 69 times to get the rest". Prime example: FFXV aka the Bloodsucker. I mean come one, how many fcking DLC, Episode are there?
B - U - L - L - S - H -I - T
aqsuperman Actually, games back then still did post game expansions, FF15 was released early because their budget ran dry and it was either that or cancel.
Henry N. Stop begging your parents for money kiddo.
FFXV is bit a prime example. If you want a prime example, look at the destiny franchise. Stop fucking moaning. At the end of the day, we got an amazing game with so much to do, then got lots of other things that cost money. Thats how dlc works
Yeah fucking bullshit
ff15 dlc other than multiplayer is 5 dollars, on top of that games back then sold the same game like 3 times with minor updates
Ex: street fighter 2, alpha 2, ultra and super
What's being asked for: Rectification on narratives and deeper character development for the main game itself. More explorable cities such as Tenebrae and pre-ruin Insomnia.
What's being offered here: Extra bosses, expanded ruin map and a boat ride - come pay for them!
If SE add this new stuff later as a update it will be OK. If not i don't pay for this small bonus.
They will still add more until the end of 2018, this isn't the final update or complete edition.
I gotta say Square-Enix. The amount of effort you guys put into this game was good, but now its gotten even better and I am really happy to say that I am very proud to own this game. Well done.
Kaz-Magic Arts I agree too!
Definitely agree. This is not a case of greedy developers, but a case of troubled development that a passionate team did its best on.
Superslash Hey, its no problem at all. I still would like to see the original concept myself. It looked great. These things are not that easy to develop over time and to figure out what works and would sell is not a cake walk. Plus making a deadline can be harsh. Rush it too fast and you'll be back at square one. But also, if you're going to take a while giving updated feeds helps to let others know where your status stands. This is a well made game. And I even enjoyed the content they used before the release they have done to keep our faith in the game. The best thing I have seen when I bought the game and opened the case was a simple "Thank you for the support." from the development team.
Agreed
Too bad they didn't put this amount of effort into the original release. But yes, keep praising mediocrity like a good sheep, till the gaming industry has become 100% cancer.
Final Fantasy XV: Never gonna make FFXVI edition
These new additions REALLY should just be free dlc
Fondrive wtf why, they worked for it, would you work and pay days for something and then just hand it over to strangers?
probably because what they made before is a half assed completed game?
Daniel what wasnt complete about it?
just gimme patch update to summon bahamut
ademdingin
And Ifrit.
Wait.... if i want all those extras do i have to pay for the full game again, can i just purchase an upgrade or is it free for those who bought the "expensivest" version?... i feel like these questions need to be answered ASAP.
RyuShiro just got announced lol, let's wait for something official.
Offroading and character swapping where already added in a free update. I expect the rest to be added in free as well.
i feel like people who already bought the game are about to take a slap to the face
there will be a $20 dlc pack if you already have the game
RyuShiro it will be dlc separetly for 20 bucks
I guess i bought the inferior version then?, would never have bought it if you were just going to come out with this.
Eleanor Greywolfe This isn't even it's final form. There are still updates and DLC to come all the way until the end of 2018.
The game isn't even finished yet. They're planning on releasing some more content, most noteworthy of which is an 'Episode : Ardyn'. Inferior doesn't even cut it, if you only played the base game, you'll be missing out on about 60hrs of content and rising.
It's really sad because from the way things are shaping up, this would have been an amazing experience if it were whole. A true final fantasy.
Don't worry tho. If this is their bussiness model now it just means by 2019 we can by the ultimate royal version on pc and not have to worry about paying extra dlc cause we know they'll eventually charge less for all and screw the day one buyers. Or just torrent it
Yeah, im just trying to ignore this game and forget I played it. In about 3 yrs when i've completely forgotten the story and all the content is out I'll play it again.
What are those scenes in the end where cor talks to the Older Noct? In Insomnia? Who are all those people? I played the royal edition and that did never happen?!
I don’t know exactly how u activate it but when you go to chapter select & start the game before you head to the citadel it will activate the Ardyn cutscene & then from there you’ll meet the resistance camp
If royale edition was the main game from day 1 it would’ve been a huge, if not massive success. Like ”Witcher 3-successful”.
All the years in development aside, I think they sadly rushed it.
You basically have to pay and play the dlc content to fully understand and/or appreciate the grand story. Which is just sad and poorly planned.
Man, sure would have been glad to play all of this when the game first came out. But instead, people had to pay $60 for a beta and more for the dlc to get a better story. And now people have to shill out more money just to get the updates from the Royal Edition. Oh but hey! At least we got some free updates am I right?
Seriously, this game and company is a fucking joke. I want to like XV, I really do. I want to support the company that makes this game. I want to get engrossed in this universe. I had high hopes for an amazing story, but me and many others got left with disappointment. Sorry, but until Square proves themselves to do better, I wont be supporting this game and I suggest others do the same...
Devomatics it’s BS that loyal day one $60 customers and buyers of the season pass have to pay yet again another 20 bucks, but pc peeps get to have all of it, the game, the season pass and this at a reduced $50 bucks.
Yeah not to mention the 3 Character dlc's They've got planned after this, don''t get me wrong though i'll probably end up buying when I have a Coupla quid spare, maybe kill a weeekend during easter when i'm bored outta my fucking nut before exam season, either this or far cry, probably this cause it's cheaper to just upgrade but i won't be happy and i'm not happy, but atleast we finally got the full game *eventually* so silver lining, kinda....
You said it mate, you rly sais it. Share Enix are a selfish company. Pool at Three Collectors Editions. You need to pay anyways over 200 dollars/ euros for that less content. Already have dlc and game, and again need to pay? No square. I never Buy again your games for real. FFXV was the last game! Im gonna unsubscripton FFXIV aswell. The contents and addons always include the same rotation... there isnt and Innovation anymore.
Devomatics
i waited this game for years, but after all the bullshit i saw square enix did (and still doing) around ffxv...
i can't bring myself to buy the game.
i really want to support square enix and final fantasy, but i can't do that when the game is full of bad business practices.
i hope that ffxvi and ffvii remake will do better than this
I’m hurt
So excited for the rest of the episodes. Getting my money worth over and over again with this game. Over 300 hundred hours played so far and happy to put another 10-20 in to see this new content.
pay for more? oh no! something i remember like EA
Except EA nickels & dimes every player for all they're worth by purposely removing features & shit. This just adds on to what was already there.
"This $20 upgrade Includes all the content of the $25 Season Pass"
Cool..... so what about those of us who paid $25 for the Season Pass back in November of 2016? Basically "Screw you, buy what is basically the Season Pass again for $20" while those who didn't buy the Season Pass before are being rewarded for waiting?
Because if that's the case I am just going to wait when it comes to future S-E releases too.
Agreed. I do hate waiting, but to have this when I was really emersed into the game would have been awesome. Now, I go back to play other add-ons and it's just not the same.
I think this will be $5
People get mad over every update lol. I’m hella excited for the more expanded ending
All this new stuff.........yet....WE STILL DON’T HAVE THE VERSUS XIII OUTFITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, This actually made me tear up 😭😭
Side note* I would actually LOSE MY SHITS if we get Kingdom hearts outfits for all the chocobros
Nero Devil.15 I liked Versus Promptos design a lot better tbh.
A true saiyan always sprinkles when he tinkles I lowkey always wanted his gun that u see him using in one of the older trailers for the game, it has this steam punk vibe to it that actually suits him very well
Give us V E R S U S outfits
Make the update free for people who own the base game . I'm not paying 20$ for something that should be a free update
Props to the dev team for trying to make it up to us fans. Also thanks to everyone who watched our Stand By Me cover this past year. Can't wait to play FFXV again in its full glory! ruclips.net/video/bXfntsxE3Ok/видео.html
Which mean the one we bought in full price on 2016 was a beta version? That's sad
1:45 Does Noctis feed his people though? They look like they're about to collapse and die from malnutrition. :s
MatchaOppa noctis himself only ate toast every night while camping. What do u expect lol.. too expensive to eat at restaurant n stalls.
you try growing crops or tending livestock in perpetual midnight while demons appear and kill everything in sight.
What Coramelimane said...
Did you even played the game?
I'm sorry but this isn't the US where everyone and their grandma is obese.
Noctis was in the Crystal for 10 years... plus photosynthesis and farming doesn't go "too well" in 10 years of demon-infested darkness. Play the game next time bud
Hi. Ultimate Collectors Edition buyer here. Also bought the Season Pass. I am perfectly okay with this. This is no different than a GOTY edition with all DLC included (you know, like every other game). I really don't understand why people are upset. Did you honestly not expect the game to lower in price over time? Did you not expect a collection at come point in the future with everything? People complaining have no idea what they are complaining about. Should the Witcher 3 fans complain that people got a deal when they released a GOTY Edition with all DLC for a discounted price? Should KH fans be upset they had to rebuy the game again to get all the Final Mix content? Or FF fans when they had to rebuy the game to get the International Version? This is the same, exact deal here. People are bitching and moaning about Square doing this when it has been done in the past with no issue. But since it's FFXV I guess everyone has to bitch about something.
Do you guys also get upset after every XIV expansion they sell a bundle of the game and its expansions for less that what a buyer on day one has spent over time for all expansions? It would be like bitching about that. The XV haters are some of the worst and most toxic people of this generation and bitch about things that other games do worse than XV.
Yeah I eas thinking about it and this turned out to be peolle moaning like its "I bought a game on release when I could have just waited a couple years fot it to be cheaper" so it's the same game industry just looks prettier
"Any fool can criticize, complain, and condemn-and most fools do. But it takes character and self-control to be understanding and forgiving." - Dale Carnegie
@kevin, Im genuinely confused, but i though the whole story was in the base game right? we have got the whole "experience" from the base game didnt we? this is just add ons just to experience the game in a different way?
asskobeler I see it the dlc as expansions to the story. Honestly the dlc is essential and a must for anyone that even plays 15 just cause it glances over so many important things. You could say they did this on purpose for the money but the game was in development hell so that’s how I look at it
I'd hold off for at least the third season pass.
whyisblue923taken I’ll wait for the ultimate final edition with the 4th season pass
You're better off nowadays waiting until the next game in a series releases because they'll give you the full version for almost next to nothing.
Brandi That's usually true, but Final Fantasy has multiple projects at once now and there was a comment from one of the makers saying XV will keep expanding. There's FFXIV, Dissidia NT, FFVII, all active while XV wasn't even close to being finished.
whyisblue923taken This franchise is one of the worst when it comes to releasing games. I'm paying once and that's it. So whatever is available when I decide to finally upgrade my computer is what I'm getting. We gotta stop supporting this robbery.
will there be an update for those who already got the base game?
Power Jusho the real question right here
If you have the season pass i think
It better cause who in their right mind would be buying it again. This stuff ain't cheap at all
DragonStudios94 I highly doubt that. That's false profit for square to do such a thing. It was never stated that we would get this if the player bought the season pass. It's too late to change things now. Square already got a lot of beef with customers that bought the game and season pass on release date as the game was unfinished. Furthermore the company was going to give any everything within the season pass for free but seeing how that would be a scam to paying people. They quickly threw away that idea XD.
just found out that if you already have the base game, you can buy the "FFXV Royal Pack" for $20
So glad I waited this long....one single purchase with everything inside. It pays to wait folks.
but remember those who purchased it earlier made this possible.
Just picked it up for $13 on Amazon. It certainly does pay to wait lol.
well maybe shouldnt have bought mine during 1st day release ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
This was the 1st ever season pass I bought a week after release, I learned my lesson too
HEY! And all it took was 2 more years and forking over more money to get something resembling a finished game! New players enjoy! Early adopters can give them more money!
i dont know what ffxv you played, but that aint it. dumbass
FiNiSH Random I played the launch version of XV that was so incomplete, they had to patch additional scenes, WHICH THEY DID DIPSHIT.
The original game was really incomplete. The starting parts were really good but then it just got reallll boring
Nerwrax15 that's why I waited...
It's barely been over 1 year since release... Not 2. Lol.
I loved this game, not only did it piss off the hardcore ff nerds, but it also did well in sales as was the gameplay. old-school ff gamers said that no turn based action ff will be a death to the franchise but instead it is reviving it. finally the gameplay is as good as the story.
oh wow you know my friend you got a shit taste . you know why cause SE just in the beginning of turning like EA
but, youd clap your hands together and bad mouthing old school fanbase
the reason we old school fanbase still some of us stick to SE just because ff7 remake already many have moved on enjoy your stitched together game praise the bad until it gets even worse
xMysticxbutterflyAMV's you big mad aren't you
mad ? hardly im just laughing at the comment of newbie like you and every new fan wand FF an online currency addict game
xMysticxbutterflyAMV's lol yeah you're mad. not really a new fan, been playing ff for 15 years. it originally had turn based because the consoles couldn't support fighting games now it can. if you miss it go back to playing super nintendo
lol i hate nintendo as well im not mad
you said 15 yeah ? LOL hard time to believe you my friend . 15 is the new business model for tabata and SE to practice their fantasies later on .. so 15 got good sales cause versus fans were waiting for a decade .
my own collection half of it are semi over world ... so me being sad about turn based games is not true
Base Game + Season Pass 1 + ROYAL UPDATE + (inevitable) Season Pass 2. So you are basically screwing the people over who bought the base game? Why would you add unique content to this edition? FF15 is STILL not finished.
Sebastian Brinkmann This isn't even it's final form. There are still updates and DLC to come all the way until the end of 2018.
It can also be that this trailer was just a tease and a look into what tabata has planned, there may be alot more content that he didn't show in this. We still do have confirmed episode DLCS coming but if tabata is smart, he would include all of that in this royal edition.
The base game was fucking great. God forbid they continue to support it with updates and new content way after release.
People are never fucking happy
I don't think thats really the argument here you guys. Had this game been treated differently like Witcher III, Fall out or like Red Dead Redemption with a little zombie addon and many other games that continue to use the DLC model to expand the game, people wouldn't be saying anything bout it nore have any of these hardened complaints. But the fact of the matter is FF XV was "INCOMPLETE" and damn near broken. There for much of the updates and DLC were NOT just post development add-on's or extension, they were integrated into the core experience, changing and altering even some things that should have been in the main game. I see how this frustrates people because mainly, we are not waiting for more content. We are waiting for the game to finally feel like a "finished product" long after its release date. But its at a point now where its water under the bridge. It is what it is, just be patient and wait for the devs to iron out all of the inconsistencies and add certain elements of the story, etc. I think people need to look on the bright side with this tough. Tabata is going the extra mile to make his fans "YOU" all happy with a complete product. He's also listening to his fanbase and catering more towards our needs in terms of content. I can't say the same thing for alot other developers who basically quit or half asses and the end resulted wasn't that great.
Artimes X Right! SE is one of the very few companies that care. Look at the hot mess FFXIV was at its original release. Instead of cancelling that project out right. SE got a whole new team lead by Yoshi P and they have turned that game around so well it's not considered one of the best MMO's out there.
So... eveyone that already owns the game, have season pass and got collectors edition have to pay $20 for extra content.
If only we had known it was gonna be THIS good in one package, we all would have waited. Btw the Royal Edition is priced at $50.
TerraFlareKSFL yup can’t wait to get it thanks for being a beta tester
TerraFlareKSFL Tbh, if too many people waited, the wouldn't have had the budget to finish the game. That's why it was released early. Square had to do that or cancel the game they invested 14 years of resources into.
No way this new content makes up 40% of the game. $20 is fucking ridiculous to price it at
@TerraFlareKSFL I sure hope waiting two years to save $20 is worth it for you.
Are you sure about the price? I feel like I got fcked with season pass and day one
I happen to be one of those whom finished XV, loved it, but recognized it's flaws and--as an "avid" fan--agree with the numerous, brilliant theories and overall perspective and such expressed in said videos (most of the time ;). Around the time "character episodes" and other DLC were revealed, I considered waiting for all DLC and such to be released before playing FFXV again; progressively, as more announcements, trailers, rumors, etc., I have chosen to wait until all major updates have been released before starting an entirely new game. In my opinion, an entirely new play through--with all the content Square-Enix plan on releasing--is the definitive way for me to experience FFXV in its entirety, and form a more precise opinion of it (compared to my previous experience).
Although my "wish-list" for FFXV hasn't--and won't (unless, by some miracle, the "trials" of Noctis during the ten-year duration--"Versus"--make it into the game...*sigh*...oh well)--completely be fulfilled: seeing this trailer elates me quite a bit.
Anyway, I'll rant for hours if I continue, and I really should be working. I'm tired, really haven't said what prompted me to write this, nor do I even remember what I set out to say (being stoned doesn't help), but I'd rather not just end up deleting another comment before finishing...soooo: keep up the good work (love the intro animation, by the way) and Kupo? Kweh? Kweeeeeh?! Back to work...
--Nicholas (
its my favorite game of all time
Noooooope...gonna wait till the year is over for the "Final Edition" so I'm not paying a crap ton more for this. I really hope moving forward that they don't continue this trend of buying games in pieces cause Square, I can promise you that doing something like this for KH3 or the next FF game, you're gonna get a lot of backlash. Don't be the next EA or Bungie.
Nana Orihara This isn't even it's final form. There are still updates and DLC to come all the way until the end of 2018. So yes your right, just wait until they release the "final update trailer" to buy it.
Final fantasy 7 is going to be released in parts.. Fuck square enix
Haven Holt It's because they announced FF7 to early, like they do with all their games.
This is just screwing with the fans who pre-ordered the normal game..
We paid full price for the game + season pass and can now add another 20 bucks to upgrade to royal? While we already paid far more then the 50 bucks that the royal version is going to cost? I smell bullshit square enix... You better make this a free update for season pass holders.. this is where Riots come from..
It will not be free.
Amazing experience overall except for Gladiolus skill leveling up, its frustrating
Yeah, not buying it. Really I bought the season pass and the game, spending over 110 bucks in total. Now throw in another 20? But people who waited one year are better off. Makes sense. In the end I'm spending with the season 2 pass 60€ which is a full priced game, for dlcs only? Yeah NOT FUCKING WORTH IT.
Same reason I passed on MVC Infinite. There was $60 of DLC for the game within the first month on top of its retail price.
not 20
Dunkey Kung Yeah fuck square I moved on to Xenoblade. It's already bad enough the deluxe edition of the game didn't come with the season pass now this shit? Nah, I was hyped so I got deluxe and season pass but I'm not anymore and this is complete and utter bullshit.
www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xv-royal-edition-update-19-99-price-mistake/
its not 20
Yea i feel like an idiot for bying this day one...they should have just given the game one more year to fix the story before releasing it ffs...
Gonna share my two cents. If you're reading this SE, release a full game next time, I'd be happy to wait. The pre-order is the same price as the game without even the DLC, yet it offers a lot more content. This would be fine if we were 10 years in the future and this would be a PS6 remaster. But it is not, it is the exact same game. This really sucks for people who already bought the game.
There's gonna be a 20 dollar DLC pack apparently so we can all enjoy these new features, but 20 dollars is like 1/3rd the price of a full game. A few bosses and some mechanics is not worth 1/3rd a full game. I feel this should be released for free to game owners, which is only fair since the royal edition costs the same.
What's next? Royal Cosmic Ultimate Platinum edition?
goty edition, include pocket edition skin
Hahaha bro
My biggest mistake was to trust SE/Hajime Tabata or whatever, and pre-order the game.
Now if I want to have a decent experience with Final Fantasy XV, I need to pay "god-knows-how-many-dollars".
Important parts of the story are DLC, fucking Royal Edition or whatever will cost me money... sigh
I'm never giving SE money again. I'm done.
Final Fantasy is a great franchise, means a lot to me. But when I sit down and think about the situation of FFXV, I just get crazy sad.
It’s not Tabata it’s Nomura who fucking failed to begin with. Tabata is only responsible for the game direction and not sales or marketing. This is essentially a game of the year edition and it’s y’alls fault for showing square it was okay to let Nomura have his way by supporting KH’s releases and FF7’s mini franchise.
I don't even want FFVII Remake anymore...
Aww boo hoo. Welcome to every fucking game ever nowadays. Just shut up and give them your money like a good little bitch.
00:30 why are they driving an RC car into that monster?
T James because fuck that monster, in particular.
It does damage
TerasXertas lol 500 damage. That’s like a single hit midgame. Idc if it does damage or not so I’m not complaining about that, I just think it’s funny that in showcasing all the new features they’ve added in, they include the regalia going *tink* on an enemy
Yeah admittedly that is pretty funny xD
Please clear up some confusions atleast in the link or description...
Do season pass holders get this dlc? Do people with the base game have to buy the game again to get the additional content or will it be dlc?
As a day 1 and a season pass owner, its not right to screw the most loyal fan, by making the new royal content as a separate DLC for 20 dollars, the fact that you guys are talking about a season pass 2, i guess that its not part of the new "royal DLC".
Yes it is.
Antiform no it was revealed the 20 dollars was a mistake and that the price is TBA
Any price is wrong, that's the point. I don't care if it's $5 or $20. People who bought the season pass should have every right to this content.
You know what other Square Enix game did something similar Rise of Tomb raider when they released on ps4 with all content, the extras were later put back on xone version and free for those who bought the season pass, so its not surreal to ask Square Enix to put royal content free for those who purchased the season pass in the first place. The royal content itself looks like the free updates that non season pass player where getting during the last year.
Sorry to rant, but here goes... Square Enix 'royally' screwing over loyal fans, charging more for this content that should have been in the game at launch. Just goes to show you that Square Enix corporate knew that FFXV needed 2 more years to complete it, but they released it early and unfinished deliberately to cash in on the name of Final Fantasy that has made them billions. They didn't care what kind of product you would receive or what kind of experience you would have with FFXV. This was all done by design, slicing up the FFXV story into Kingsglaive, Brotherhood and the unfinished game of FFXV, released with deliberate plot holes to charge you for the Episodes of the bros. And now once again Square Enix is releasing a royal edition with what looks like the 'rest' of the story so they can charge you more... is it $20?! What a ripoff! I know a ripoff when I see one; Square Enix you are ripping off your loyal customers and I take great umbrage with that.
I was a loyal fan until the PS3 era, I have wanted to continue playing new Final Fantasy games, but I do not support the direction Square Enix has taken the Final Fantasy franchise and I especially dislike the practices Square Enix is doing with season passes. You are taking advantage of digital downloading capabilities to take advantage of your consumers! I take great umbrage with how my favorite series has been handled Square Enix; I want to believe your staff are talented enough to create another classic game like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VII - Give us a great comprehensible single player game that is released 'complete' and rivals the titles released in the days of Squaresoft. If your game is deserving of a $100 price tag, then so be it, put it on one disc or two! Just make a great game and I'll have confidence in your company to support you once again.
Final fantasy Xv is honestly one of my favourite games of all time, I’m hyped for this, take my money square enix
This is the reason I never buy games on day one or first year of release.
ninja of fire honestly I should have fucking waited 😭
But they also have more dlc coming this year so wait two years for a game that took 10 years to make. I think SE has a really bad bussiness model and it will seep into ff7 remake... so. I'll be getting this one by the time that remake comes out
i bought the game 3 months after the release and completed it unless than 50 hours and now there's a new release of the same game,but with added bonuses that they didn't include in the first and freaking DLCs?WTF!
Scrapped? You mean jungle up all of versus 13 story together and take away all the good parts? Cause if so. I agree.
ninja of fire You’re a smart guy. I happen to be a sucker for this game.
I picked up the Digital Premium Edition during the sale. Will I still have to pay $20 for what is essentially content that I already own?
LtFrozt yes, but this isn't the final version. There will still be updates all the way to the end of 2018.
That's what I'm wondering too. They haven't announced all the prices yet
LtFrozt Yes
Yes. So on behalf of everyone at Square Enix, FUCK YOU.
LtFrozt I did exactly the same thing and I can't help but feel fucked over
What is that creature at 0:43?
Is it an actual enemy you can fight, or just a cutscene?
That's Bismarck, and no it's not an enemy.
It's a part of a cutscene.
I very much regret buying the Limited Edition of this game. The expanded Insomnia map, bosses, and Armiger Unleashed better be free updates.
Force0fWi11 god I hope it is. I am not buying this game twice
$20 update
+kewlbot I was salty at just the season pass before, but I accepted it because in today's gaming industry, you need to accept that when you pay $60 for a game, you're not getting the whole game. But if they lock content that should have ACTUALLY been in the game at release behind a separate full price version, I swear to god...
Looking at this comment section, I'm surprised this trailer hasn't been dislike bombed.
These types of practices are getting old We know fighting game companies do it all the time, but to see this from a RPG much less Square is ridiculous. Screw day one owners and loyal fans
Why would being a day one owner give you some kinda special privilege? Did you complain like this when Brood War was released for StarCraft, too? Or when Lord of Destruction was announced for Diablo II?
GrahamChapman I don't play those games are your ok with these types of practices then good for you
I don't play them either. My point still stands; I cannot recall people complaining about expansions and stuff like that until quite recently. When Sonic 3 got its "& Knuckles" addition, when War Craft 3 got its "Frozen Throne" expansion, when Dark Souls III got its "Ashes of Ariandel" and "Ringed City" DLCs... people didn't complain back then... Why, exactly, are people complaining about this now?
GrahamChapman i have a theory about this i cant tell for sonic and warcraft 3 but for dark souls 3 the expension you mention its in the season pass but for ff15 the additional stuff of the royal edition are not in them.Some player who buy the "complete" ff15 edition might feel betrayed and the fact that story was meh and that we needed to buy dlc just to understand a little bit better the whole story its not good this royal edition just pour salt on the wound.
Kangamanga 25 you said it man