Ive done this and i found a difference at first it will back fire a bit ..self adjusting to the change but after driving a bit it will smoothen out and bave less engine leg ..i sugest you not to go to 6mm right away id adjust it to 4 mm drive it for few km and see how its responding to that change and depending on what you think you czn go two more mm but i wouldnt do more then that or you may have to change your oil separator box as i seen this happin ..and the price is 600 dolars for a new one ..i do not know why this happins but i seen it happin to 2 different darts with 1.4 turbo
Great video funbro1, thanks for the upload. I noticed the Dart in this video also had an aftermarket ram intake on it. Did you also install this, and if so, did you run any before and after tests? I own a 2013 Dart and have been looking into installing either a short ram intake or a cold air intake but would love to see some better data and comparisons on before and after results. Just wondering. ;) Thanks again for the video!
N. Warman Unfortunately I did not run any timed tests before adding any parts so I have no hard data on the improvements that the parts have made to the car. Thanks for watching.
not too bad, but way easier on my srt4, and i switched to wastegate with stronger spring as well, but pretty easy, just a little more involved than the srt4. like to see vids of the pulls now with more boost added. do you have any?
other YT material on this adjustment recommend not doing it because it could cause long term damage, and the change in boost is only temporarily since the ECu will automatically adjust as well? It is also a fix for a common 'rattle' coming from the rod when it sits a bit loose. I've adjusted the rod a few turns but now (15k km later) I have misfire faultages. Are you sure adjusting the tension on the wastegate is harmless?
Sorry if this a silly question, but what does adjusting the wastegate do to the car's performance? I have a 2013 Dart Limited with a turbo engine, and was wondering if this would improve performance and/or decrease throttle response/turbo lag. Thank you. -S
mikrosha Yes, it will do all of the above. The best part is that if you are not satisfied it can always be put back, just mark where the original location is. Thanks for watching.
It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer. Thanks for watching
This fix will not change the sound, the noise you are hearing is probably caused by the removal of the air box or the addition of a short ram air kit. Thanks for watching.
Not to ask a dumb question, but is the role of the wastegate is to rid the engine of excess air ( turbo) pressure upon decelerating, or does it control the amount of boost as the the air rushes into the intake cycle, thereby providing the extra power boost? Also, I am considering buying one of these cars. Are there good and reliable performance mods avail? Thanks guys :)
Will this technique work on/for a 2014 Aero 1.4 Turbo?? I mean they made them all basically the same, but I just want to make sure before I go messing with stuff lol…
Will this adjustment void warranty, and will it help with turbo lag? My dart lurches when I get on it around 3500-4500rpm. I was told it was turbo lag.
Timmy Nowlin As stated in previous comments, this is the adjustment that the factory will do if you are receiving the low boost alert. You will always have some kind of turbo lag but this adjustment will help it some, and it does not hurt the engine. Thanks for watching.
Mine has low boost code so I’m wondering the same thing I was just nervous about going to much and destroying the engine,I am going to try this today but I’m gonna go 8-10mm for some fun lol! Extremely fast little car and pulls wicked for a 1.4l engine! Mine has a Garrett turbo on it is that a factory thing?Mines a Rally
When I think of a car with a turbo, I hear the air being released after the engine is revved up. The dart recycles that air....seems like it keeps the RPMs up in doing so. Is there a way to make the air release rather than push it back through the engine?
Yes there is a way. Air that is going back though the engine uses what's called a recirculating blow off valve. What you're looking for is called an atmospheric blow off valve. And being that the 1.4l turbo dart has been out for a few years I'm sure you could find a bunch of companies that sell them. But in all honesty, I'd just leave it as it is. It makes the best power recirculating.
hey everyone, just got one of these. the manual wasnt avail so i just grabbed the automatic...ya i know. love the car so far. it has dreadful lag when trying to accelerate from 0mph. almost like you have to hit the gas before the light turns green lol.
@@loupamj Get a go pedal. Helps by using a computer to adjust TPS faster than your foot can. It won't make it faster, but the lag is almost completely gone. Highly recommend
I've read that this is a fix for the p0299 Turbocharger low boost code. My 2013 set that code this morning at 37,000 miles so I'm kind of frustrated that my low milage car is having issues but this seems like a common problem.
Replace the actuator solenoid. I've had that code forever and just found out by fluke on another thread. They're cheap now that the car is so old. Just be careful with the old brittle vacuum lines.
Hi, i have a dodge Dart 1.4 turbo, my car had the overboost turbo, i do exactly what u do on this video, but i also notice that the wastegate hose was broken so i replaced and the engine check turned off, do i should readjust the wastegate like used to be before? because i think that the problem was the cracked hose, i just wanna know if i should leave the wastegate like was before or just like is on this video thanks
@funbro1 how do I know if my Dodge Dart needs it? I have a 2013 Dodge Dart aero multair turbo? Sometimes my acceleration is delayed can that possibly be the problem?
David Morales It looks like the P082 code denotes a faulty clutch pedal switch. One way to test this is if you have cruise control, try it. If the switch is bad then the cruise will not engage because it thinks the clutch is pressed. This is a factory problem and they should be able to take care of it for you. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
I have a Chevy Sonic with the 1.4L Turbo and the wastegate is pretty similar but most people say doing this will blow the engine or the Turbo... I want to try this but only adjust it a little but im worried...
Even had a local guy who does tunes on the 1.4L Turbo Sonic/Cruze recommend not doing this.. So I may just stay on the side of caution seeing it seems like the Turbo and the engine on my 1.4 is cheaper all around.... still damn tempted though
I've been doing some reading on the dart forums, and quite a few people have had luck with this fixing the underboost code ;) If that doesn't work, the next, cheapish thing you can do is replace the wastegate solenoid. They are relatively inexpensive, I think i remember seeing them for maybe like $30 or $40, and the part is right on the front so you can get to it easily. Hope this helps!
Eric Bridegroom This is a common fix the the under-boost code that has been known to pop up on this year Dart. The manufacturer will actually do this adjustment if your Dart continually displays the under-boost "alarm" or code.
By adjusting the wastegate you make the car more responsive and quicker (untested). Good thing is you can always go back to the way it was before very easily.
It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer. Thanks for watching
+CHaRLeYBoY1994 It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer.
+CHaRLeYBoY1994 it boosts earlier, holding wg closed longer..will wear your turbo quickly and use more gas... more turbo use...this is not a mod but fiddling with a precise setting from the factory you need to add small amounts of pressure with a pressure gauge to do this properly
+QuickTips Anytime you improve performance you will wear out parts and use more gas. One must ask...is it worth it. The good news is that it can be reversed.
cam you please make a video how to adjust the wastegate in a 2007 mini cooper S im about to install a new turbo in my mini and í would like to do the same... but my wastegate actuator is different... can you help me with this?
+Courtney Byrd It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer.
That makes sense. I can definitely tell a difference. Especially in 3rd and 4th gear. I worry about heat soak tho. It will probably work much more efficient with a larger FMIC.
Daniel Sheriff I have not tried a before and after timed run but judging by the increased response I would say that it will improve the 0-60 time. Thanks for watching
Daniel Sheriff This is a common fix the the under-boost code that has been known to pop up on this year Dart. The manufacturer will actually do this adjustment if your Dart continually displays the under-boost "alarm" or code.
It is a good possibility, good thing is that all it will cost you is a bit of time to find out. If not it sure won't hurt anything. Thanks for watching.
@@sacramentoenvironmentalser770 Hey just wanted to give you heads up, one of the pipes was not connected all the way in, it was sucking air in, my friend tightened it up, cleared the code, everything is fine now.
Also, and I just have to say, as a huge Fiat and Alfa Romeo fan, this car is basically a Fiat Abarth with 4 doors! You guys DO know that the engine and transmission are all Fiat and the Chassis is Alfa Romeo Giuletta from Europe? :)
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Just finished doing this to my dart. I’ll keep u updated
Ive done this and i found a difference at first it will back fire a bit ..self adjusting to the change but after driving a bit it will smoothen out and bave less engine leg ..i sugest you not to go to 6mm right away id adjust it to 4 mm drive it for few km and see how its responding to that change and depending on what you think you czn go two more mm but i wouldnt do more then that or you may have to change your oil separator box as i seen this happin ..and the price is 600 dolars for a new one ..i do not know why this happins but i seen it happin to 2 different darts with 1.4 turbo
Thanks for watching.
Kinda wish I heard what the car sounded after the adjustment.
Sounds pretty much the same, Thanks for watching
Adjusting the wastegate will have no effect on the sound
Have you noticed any change in performance? Any issues that a dart owner would need to know
@@Tacticallyoverweight small performance improvement.
Great video funbro1, thanks for the upload.
I noticed the Dart in this video also had an aftermarket ram intake on it. Did you also install this, and if so, did you run any before and after tests? I own a 2013 Dart and have been looking into installing either a short ram intake or a cold air intake but would love to see some better data and comparisons on before and after results. Just wondering. ;)
Thanks again for the video!
N. Warman Unfortunately I did not run any timed tests before adding any parts so I have no hard data on the improvements that the parts have made to the car. Thanks for watching.
funbro1 i would go with the short ram intake
not too bad, but way easier on my srt4, and i switched to wastegate with stronger spring as well, but pretty easy, just a little more involved than the srt4. like to see vids of the pulls now with more boost added. do you have any?
What would you say is the highest safe mm level would be if you are stock? I'm looking at the performance aspect of it.
Good question, I’d like to know as well
other YT material on this adjustment recommend not doing it because it could cause long term damage, and the change in boost is only temporarily since the ECu will automatically adjust as well?
It is also a fix for a common 'rattle' coming from the rod when it sits a bit loose. I've adjusted the rod a few turns but now (15k km later) I have misfire faultages. Are you sure adjusting the tension on the wastegate is harmless?
So far (3 years) there has been no harm to the vehicle and it still runs great. Thanks for watching.
Sorry if this a silly question, but what does adjusting the wastegate do to the car's performance? I have a 2013 Dart Limited with a turbo engine, and was wondering if this would improve performance and/or decrease throttle response/turbo lag.
Thank you.
-S
mikrosha Yes, it will do all of the above. The best part is that if you are not satisfied it can always be put back, just mark where the original location is. Thanks for watching.
I have the 2013 1.4 Turbo and it's my understanding that the engine Computer operates the waist gate so adjusting it does not increase performance.
So by simply thightening the waste gate bolt you improved the boost ? Nice vid btw !
It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer. Thanks for watching
It would be cool if you could post a video of the difference in sound now.
Eric Tran With this simple adjustment alone there really isn't any noticeable sound difference
funbro1 When I hear a car come down off rev, and I hear a release of air...what is the difference in that and this fix?
This fix will not change the sound, the noise you are hearing is probably caused by the removal of the air box or the addition of a short ram air kit. Thanks for watching.
Would this fix an overboost issue?
It might help some but sounds like you have something else going on.
Thanks for watching.
so by doing this have you been better gas mileage or worse and I was wondering if you have run into any problems with doing this?
No problems so far and better performance.
Not to ask a dumb question, but is the role of the wastegate is to rid the engine of excess air ( turbo) pressure upon decelerating, or does it control the amount of boost as the the air rushes into the intake cycle, thereby providing the extra power boost? Also, I am considering buying one of these cars. Are there good and reliable performance mods avail? Thanks guys :)
It gets rid of the excess air pressure upon decelerating.
funbro1 ok thank you!
You're thinking of the blow off valve. The wastegate controls how much boost the car makes by allowing the exhaust gas to bypass the turbo.
Jeremiah H Thanks man! 🚗🚗
This is cool!
KUSTOMBLACK GUNZ thank you
Will this technique work on/for a 2014 Aero 1.4 Turbo?? I mean they made them all basically the same, but I just want to make sure before I go messing with stuff lol…
Sounds like it should work the same. If you don’t like it you can always go back. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Will this adjustment void warranty, and will it help with turbo lag? My dart lurches when I get on it around 3500-4500rpm. I was told it was turbo lag.
Timmy Nowlin As stated in previous comments, this is the adjustment that the factory will do if you are receiving the low boost alert. You will always have some kind of turbo lag but this adjustment will help it some, and it does not hurt the engine. Thanks for watching.
Okay cool I will try to adjust mine soon.
Let us know what you think after you make the adjustment.
funbro1 lag on a turbo that small is HIGHLY unlikely, I really hate to say but these cars just don't have any power
When it's going to 22PSI on 1.4L engine it has lag.
Hello from Bulgaria, firs sorry for my English. I want to ask-can i make this mod if my ECU is stock. Or i must do chip tuning. Tnanks
It will be OK to do this with the stock ECU. Great English and Thanks for the view.
@@funbro1 thanks :-), do You know how much was the presure of turbo before and after the mod of actuator and do you feel more power
thanks
Mine has low boost code so I’m wondering the same thing I was just nervous about going to much and destroying the engine,I am going to try this today but I’m gonna go 8-10mm for some fun lol!
Extremely fast little car and pulls wicked for a 1.4l engine!
Mine has a Garrett turbo on it is that a factory thing?Mines a Rally
I’m not sure if that is the factory turbo. It sure is a fun car to drive.
Thanks for watching.
Garrett 1446 is stock in turbo 1746 turbo is the big turbo upgrade size
When I think of a car with a turbo, I hear the air being released after the engine is revved up. The dart recycles that air....seems like it keeps the RPMs up in doing so. Is there a way to make the air release rather than push it back through the engine?
Yes there is a way. Air that is going back though the engine uses what's called a recirculating blow off valve. What you're looking for is called an atmospheric blow off valve. And being that the 1.4l turbo dart has been out for a few years I'm sure you could find a bunch of companies that sell them. But in all honesty, I'd just leave it as it is. It makes the best power recirculating.
@Anti Seed you got any videos?
hey everyone, just got one of these. the manual wasnt avail so i just grabbed the automatic...ya i know. love the car so far. it has dreadful lag when trying to accelerate from 0mph. almost like you have to hit the gas before the light turns green lol.
Turbo lag sure is a thing.
should of waited for a manual
ryan dyess even a slow speed needing to accelerate has 2 full seconds before finally realized I need it to go
Did you ever find out how to fix this
@@loupamj Get a go pedal. Helps by using a computer to adjust TPS faster than your foot can. It won't make it faster, but the lag is almost completely gone. Highly recommend
I've read that this is a fix for the p0299 Turbocharger low boost code. My 2013 set that code this morning at 37,000 miles so I'm kind of frustrated that my low milage car is having issues but this seems like a common problem.
Give it a try, it won't hurt and it is always reversible. It should take care of your code.
Replace the actuator solenoid. I've had that code forever and just found out by fluke on another thread. They're cheap now that the car is so old. Just be careful with the old brittle vacuum lines.
Hi, i have a dodge Dart 1.4 turbo, my car had the overboost turbo, i do exactly what u do on this video, but i also notice that the wastegate hose was broken so i replaced and the engine check turned off, do i should readjust the wastegate like used to be before? because i think that the problem was the cracked hose, i just wanna know if i should leave the wastegate like was before or just like is on this video thanks
Either way would work now that you have a new hose. Thanks for watching.
hi.
does this fix the lagging of the turbo by any chance.
your help is most appreciated.
It helps the overall feel. Thanks for watching
funbro1 Ty
what is the default configuration in mm, does anyone know?
@funbro1 how do I know if my Dodge Dart needs it? I have a 2013 Dodge Dart aero multair turbo? Sometimes my acceleration is delayed can that possibly be the problem?
It sure wouldn’t hurt to try it out. You could always go back. Thanks for watching
Should i go stright to 6mm preload or should i work up to 6mm
alex lopez I would recommend starting at a lower preload and see how you like that, then you can always move up from there. Thanks for watching
What would happen if you did more than 6mm? Would you in turn get more power?
A little bit. Thanks for watching.
How do you know that it doesn’t have to much pressure?
Ya don't. And if you adjust it too far open you'll blow the turbo. 6mm is recommended
Agreed
the code P0832 popped up not too long ago is it because of the adjustment?
David Morales It looks like the P082 code denotes a faulty clutch pedal switch. One way to test this is if you have cruise control, try it. If the switch is bad then the cruise will not engage because it thinks the clutch is pressed. This is a factory problem and they should be able to take care of it for you. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
What's the purpose? does it improve performance or mileage
+russ carney Yes to both + response. Thanks for watching
how much more boost does this give you?
+Gage Branam It's not so much that it gives more boost but a longer boost.
I have a Chevy Sonic with the 1.4L Turbo and the wastegate is pretty similar but most people say doing this will blow the engine or the Turbo... I want to try this but only adjust it a little but im worried...
The Dart has been running beautifully ever since this has been done. Thanks for watching.
Even had a local guy who does tunes on the 1.4L Turbo Sonic/Cruze recommend not doing this.. So I may just stay on the side of caution seeing it seems like the Turbo and the engine on my 1.4 is cheaper all around.... still damn tempted though
Maybe do a little bit, but that is up to you. best of luck.
@funbro1 i lost the clip omg what can i do???????
Only thing you can do find another. Thanks for watching.
do you know if this will help with a p0299 code and if not what some common problems are for that code?
It might and the good part is it won't cost anything but a little time and you can always change it back. Thanks for watching.
Replace boost solenoid for p0299 code. Took me years to figure out.
If someone has already adjusted it. How do you know the actuator is at dead 0?
You adjust it so its at the 0 point explained I this video. loosen until it slides on the prong without having to force it.
Just loosen until it slides easily then go from there. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
I did this and the next day the car stalled and the check engine came on saying my o2 sensor and turbo overboost. Any idea why.
Try putting it back to factory setting and reset the code. If it still comes on you may need to replace the o2 sensor. Thanks for watching.
@@funbro1 do you know how many turns back to factory settings
Just reverse the procedure and it will be back to factory. Thanks for watching.
Any tips to get the pin out
Only a small tool, and a lot of patience. Thanks for watching.
Would this help my engine light on for turbo boost problem? Code po299 2013 Dodge Dart. Please help
It wouldn’t hurt it. I think it’s worth a try. Thanks for watching.
I've been doing some reading on the dart forums, and quite a few people have had luck with this fixing the underboost code ;) If that doesn't work, the next, cheapish thing you can do is replace the wastegate solenoid. They are relatively inexpensive, I think i remember seeing them for maybe like $30 or $40, and the part is right on the front so you can get to it easily. Hope this helps!
How many pounds of boost does it push now
Around 20 depending on the weather.
What is the long term damage from adjusting the wastegate?
Eric Bridegroom This is a common fix the the under-boost code that has been known to pop
up on this year Dart. The manufacturer will actually do this adjustment
if your Dart continually displays the under-boost "alarm" or code.
So the only reason a person would consider adjusting this is because of an error? Could you adjust this to make your Rallye faster?
By adjusting the wastegate you make the car more responsive and quicker (untested). Good thing is you can always go back to the way it was before very easily.
funbro1 I still have warranty just in case.
Good deal
What does that actually do for the car?
It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer.
Thanks for watching
does it harm the engine in any way?
David Morales No
Hi. What does this mod do to the turbo? Does it boost for a longer period of time because the wastegate will be closed for a longer time???
+CHaRLeYBoY1994 It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer.
Cool!! Thanks for the tips! Will definitely try it on my dart.
just did the adjustment on my dodge dart and i can feel the difference!!!
+CHaRLeYBoY1994 it boosts earlier, holding wg closed longer..will wear your turbo quickly and use more gas... more turbo use...this is not a mod but fiddling with a precise setting from the factory
you need to add small amounts of pressure with a pressure gauge to do this properly
+QuickTips Anytime you improve performance you will wear out parts and use more gas. One must ask...is it worth it. The good news is that it can be reversed.
cam you please make a video how to adjust the wastegate in a 2007 mini cooper S im about to install a new turbo in my mini and í would like to do the same... but my wastegate actuator is different... can you help me with this?
+Willie Lemosse Sure
Will this increase the boost levels or just allow the wastegate to hold the current boost longer in the RPM range?
+Courtney Byrd It will allow the turbo to remain at a higher pressure for a longer period of time keeping the engine running in the "power band" longer.
That makes sense. I can definitely tell a difference. Especially in 3rd and 4th gear. I worry about heat soak tho. It will probably work much more efficient with a larger FMIC.
what else have you done to your Dart?
It has a short ram intake and charge pipes.
Cost was the major factor but the cai would be a nice addition.
Noticable difference. My Dart is a little more fun to drive now
Worth the small amount of time I’d say. Thanks for watching.
funbro1 I did encounter a problem that I need to research.
Does this improve 0-60 time
Daniel Sheriff I have not tried a before and after timed run but judging by the increased response I would say that it will improve the 0-60 time. Thanks for watching
Is this in anyway bad for my dart, does it stress the engine
Daniel Sheriff This is a common fix the the under-boost code that has been known to pop up on this year Dart. The manufacturer will actually do this adjustment if your Dart continually displays the under-boost "alarm" or code.
Very interesting. Learn something new every day. Great vid!
Does this fix the code P0246?
It is a good possibility, good thing is that all it will cost you is a bit of time to find out. If not it sure won't hurt anything. Thanks for watching.
checked mine & it's 7.5 mm set from the factory, so I left it alone.
Good deal. I think in later model they may have adjusted them differently. Thanks for watching.
My dart turbo is great. But the code was reading. p2262 so I was going to give this a try to at least see where it is
Try it, it won’t hurt and you always change it back. Thanks for watching.
@@funbro1 def got a little more power
I have the same code, did you do this wastegate, did it help?
@@misha27060 so it seemed to be a easy fix and it was but now im not driving the dart. its still reading the same code, so im like wtf
@@sacramentoenvironmentalser770 Hey just wanted to give you heads up, one of the pipes was not connected all the way in, it was sucking air in, my friend tightened it up, cleared the code, everything is fine now.
Also, and I just have to say, as a huge Fiat and Alfa Romeo fan, this car is basically a Fiat Abarth with 4 doors! You guys DO know that the engine and transmission are all Fiat and the Chassis is Alfa Romeo Giuletta from Europe? :)
YEP
Who gives a shit RT
so has this hurt anyones car
Mine is still running strong with no issues. Thanks for the question.
Can it cause issue I have seen if it's not right it might or should the car adjust to it
No issues yet