I flew twice on a United Airlines 777-200 many years ago (it was not even a -200ER yet, it was an original series -200), and at that time it was configured 2-5-2. Luckily I was in a 2-seat group on the first flight and in an aisle seat in a 5-seat group on the second flight (I can't sleep on planes anyway, so giving way to people that had to go to the toilet wasn't a big deal for me), but I can imagine that sitting in the middle of a 5-seat group was terrible. I also flew three times on old Air France 747s configured 3-5-3 (yes, 11 seats per row!), and fortunately I never got a middle seat, but it was probably even worse.
I’m from Rome and I have family in Lisbon, every time is a shame with tap on European flights, they don’t even give you a glass of water. So now I’m flying only Ryanair, why paying so much more for… Nothing!
@@salvatoresammarco1580 Until 5 years ago, TAP was not like this. They provided food and drink for economy class on all their flights, including Lisbon-Porto, a flight that takes less than 45 minutes. With the negative financial results, a restructuring was carried out and, unfortunately, they cut economy class food on short flights.
I flew them the other way (Newark to Porto) last summer and I have to say they were great, especially for the price! The crew was extremely professional and hospital, good food and wine even in economy, everything was as good as it could be. Only issue was that the passenger next to me had some problems with his seatback entertainment system.
THAT IS SO TRUE! We were 3 people and flew from Amsterdam to Miami via Lisbon and BACK for 1000 Dollars total!!! What an incredible bargain! Their hard product is fresh and new and the soft product is sufficient as well! Love flying with them!
Tbh not the greatest service since they are always having strikes and canceling people’s flights that’s why nowadays people here in Portugal try to avoid traveling TAP
not at all, they're probably one of the star alliance airlines i actively avoid due to poor service, fees/extras more in consistent with a ULCC and LIS is a pain to transit through and delays
@@tiagoguerra4617 that is a lie, since 2015 they only had 1 strike from the cabin crew, none from pilots and all after covid… 2015 was 8 years ago… you can be sued with your statement, be carefull
Amazing video!!!! I love trip reports the most, although brutally honest is also quite enjoyable. TAP looks like a nice airline, the A330-900 neo looks beautiful and those seats look nicely designed.
I love TAP. I have flown with TAP countless times from San Francisco and Boston to Barcelona via Lisbon over the last 11 years. Great prices, never had a problem. I think the worst thing that happned to me was I once had a 4 hour layover in Lisbon but for the price it was no big deal. TAP is always my first choice when flying to and from the US and Europe. I always recommend TAP to friends. Just love 'em. I also like the 2-4-2 sea configuration!!!!
Hello I am about yo fly with them next September, with a stop in Lisbon, to Paris, they just gave me 2 hrs to change the airplane, do you think that time is enough?
@@alexisramon4872hi..we are flying from SF to Paris in December with a layover in Lisbon. How’s TAP experience? We have already booked our tickets but now I’m worried about the negative comments on luggage missing and flight cancellations😢
I know this is an old comment, but for those who do have connections, I personally try to leave 3 hours whenever possible, as in some cases, you may have to go get your bags and re-check them on your connection, plus this gives you some leeway if the initial (first) flight is delayed, which can happen especially with international flights from what I've seen / been told. So I would try to leave 3 hours at a minimum and probably more like 4-5 just to be safe, unless you have alternative means if you do miss your connection. But again, factor in time for dealing with checked baggage if applicable, and if you are required to do anything else (like go through customs) upon arrival (which is not always the case if you're just transferring through a country but not leaving the secure area of the terminal).
I agree. A very underrated airline. They are still carrying over years of bad rep. I flew them 6 times in 2022 between London and Portugal (LIS, FNC, OPO) and I cannot name one bad flight with them. Tried their basic, flex economy as well as their business class and all offered great service within their remit. Would like to try them on longhaul flights. Last time I did so was on their old & outdated (even for that time) A310 in 2006. As always, great review, guys!
The cabin looks pretty modern, clean and comforting. Sorry to say, it looks better than on most Middle Eastern carriers. TAP can work on food presentation
I had two great flights with TAP back in 2016 I hope they thrive!. PS In Lisboa they made change of gate announcements in English but not in portugese lol, half of the passengers were waiting at the gate while the other half were walking towards the new gate.
Tap is a great airline. It's a joy to fly with tap. Flew 4x last year with Tap to Ghana. My only problem or let's say discomfort is the food, other then that, it's truly a great airline❤
The answer might be far simpler: the A330's default 2-4-2 seat layout. It gives you roughly 2.5 to 3 cm extra width for your shoulder to relax without bumping someone next to you. I think travelers always take seat width for granted until they suffer the squeeze of Boeing 737 seats being fitted into long haulers. I flew Thai dated A330-300, didn't particularly felt amazing, but that's decent enough I guess. I flew Garuda's A330-900, felt not too different, but refreshing nonetheless. Boeing widebody operators like ANA fill its 787 with 3-3-3 economy seat layout, giving you 737 seat width for the entire long hours. While ANA compensate you with generous 34" pitch, the same can't be said with China Airlines' 777-300ER with its dreadful 3-4-3 layout. Sitting in the middle, the armrest claim won't give you any extra comfort, since you'll bump shoulders. Someone next to you tries to reach for their pocket, adjusting their seat belts, touching the IFE screen or moving the controllers, you'll feel their shoulders moving about. Sitting next to the aisle will give you repeated galley cart bumps. Why do Boeing operators need these extra 20-30 seats? Are Boeing planes has some efficiency deficit that it desperately tries to address? Kudos to TAP for sticking to standard 2-4-2 layout.
No, is because they add extra money to the airlines. By adding more seat, mean you can push the machine as it's maximum to get the more of it. The 777 and 787 are very wide of fuselage.
Flew TAP a few years ago in one of their A340 from GRU to LIS, I still remember the huge reclination of the economy seats, something out of this world!
As a portuguese i came here to say that the company is mantaining with the money of our taxes... we keep rescuing TAP because somehow its always going bankrupt... Also TAP is full of corruption inside and the portuguese are tired of it.
tens de vir para aqui reclamar??? o que raio tem a ver os corruptos de Portugal com o serviço da TAP? os Portugueses estamos fartos da TAP??? desde quando? não recebi esse memorando
@@frsrs5501 Se nao sabes do que os portugueses estao fartos e melhor abrires os olhinhos, os resgates feitos a TAP com o nosso contribuinte.. Se não vês começa a ver
@@MeredyFT eu gosto de ver pessoas escreverem que o "privado" não presta. Não esquecer que os resgates só acontecem depois do Passos Coelho e que a TAP não é uma empresa Publica. Embora não seja uma empresa publica é de vital importância para Portugal, e por isso tem de ser salva. (minha opinião, nunca deveria ter sido vendida) de qualquer forma o vídeo em questão fala da experiência de voar na TAP, e não da conjeturas macro económicas da empresa. Por isso se quiser contribuir para o vídeo faça sobre o tema e não se coloque em tangencias. por exemplo: nesta secção de comentários há varias pessoas a queixar se do serviço e da diferença entre voar para o Brasil e voar para Nova York. isto é um exemplo de critica valida no contexto do vídeo. agora imagine que é um possível cliente Americano da TAP, acha que lhe interessa se a TAP é bem gerida ou se há corrupção em Portugal? quanto ao "Se nao sabes do que os portugueses estao fartos" generalizar normalmente não corre bem. abraço
This video illustrates the difference between longhaul in a narrowbody vs. widebody. On a widebody, the aircraft can carry more food options so they're less likely to run out of your meal choice. The aircraft also feels more comfortable in the air, especially with regards to turbulence. I flew this same route in January on an A321neo, and I definitely wouldn't describe the service as phenomenal. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. It was average. By the time the service reaches the rear of the aircraft, you're stuck with whatever they have left, and if you're a vegetarian, forget about it. TAP is not a low cost carrier. It's more of a hybrid, legacy in most ways with some low cost habits.
and the Price...? You should try he CPI version, very good indeed, particularly the 4.6 version. I'm just sad that 3.2 Billions from our taxes were burried in that company. Lisbon lives from tourism and that's wrong and unhealthy.
19:50 What the heck? I saw it too! I heard they made new airline and named it ITA, but if I remember correctly their planes are fully blue. Then what's that....
I'm not one of those guys who request flight reviews as if you were solely at our service and had unlimited funds and availability to fly wherever you want at any time, but I have a good reason to suggest you to try one of TAP's routes to Brazil (where due to the same language and many cultural and economic ties, TAP has an impressive market share on European routes and flies to 10 Brazilian destinations, which is unmatched by any other foreign airline). The reason is that most reviews of TAP I see on Brazilian routes are negative (sometimes catastrophic, even in business class), nowhere near the quality you experienced on this flight, and it seems that they concentrate their best efforts on North American routes. The comparison would be interesting to see. (Their only other South American destination is, surprisingly, Caracas, which is basically off-limits to most travelers these days, for sadly obvious reasons.)
Interesting insight. And makes sense too. On the other hand l would have thought the Brazilian routes would command better service, but then, as you mention, it is east to take that route monopoly for granted. Caracas well, whoever is familiar with the situation in Venezuela, will know it is simply a utilitarian route nowadays.
@@thegospelaccordingtoant-an1379, it is not totally a monopoly because two Brazilian airlines fly to Portugal: LATAM Brazil flies São Paulo-Lisbon on the 787-9, and Azul flies from Campinas (near São Paulo) to Lisbon on A330s of various series. But TAP flies from Lisbon to 11 Brazilian airports (I had said 10 above, but I forgot one): São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte, Brasília, Salvador, Recife, and Fortaleza on A330s (various series), and to Belém, Natal, and Maceió on the A321LR. All these flights are nonstop (except Maceió, via Natal) and are flown at least 4 times a week (São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro are daily). Additionally, TAP flies from Porto nonstop to São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro on A330s. So, the competition with Brazilian airlines is disproportionate. TAP also has an impressive European network, so it offers easy connections to destinations throughout Europe, with the added convenience of people speaking Portuguese on board both flights and at the connecting airport. This can be significant: for example, recently I saw a video by a Brazilian lady who lives in Norway, was having a baby, and paid the ticket for her sister to fly from Brazil and help her during the birth and after-birth phase. Her sister doesn't speak a word of any foreign language, only Portuguese, and had never even traveled by plane, let alone internationally, so TAP was really the only option for her. Add competitive fares and you have a recipe for success. But the service is reported to be inconsistent at best, terrible at worst. As for Caracas, in addition to the currently low passenger loads and safety issues for resting crews, foreign airlines have pulled out of there en masse simply because they were unable to be paid in hard currency for the tickets they sold within Venezuela. And while there is a sizable community of Venezuelans with Portuguese ancestry, I doubt that it's enough to fill planes, especially at the moment, when very few of them can afford to travel. Most of the few foreign airlines that still serve Venezuela do so for political reasons (for example, Turkish Airlines flies from Istanbul because Venezuela is an ally of the Erdogan regime, but it's a money-bleeding route, while Venezuela's own Conviasa flies to Moscow, Damascus, and Tehran, but only to Madrid in Western Europe, and even then on planes wet-leased from Spanish charter airline Plus Ultra). I don't think Portugal has any political interest in Venezuela at the moment, so I don't understand what TAP is still doing there.
That is not a problem of the airline itself but also of the brazilian mindset, always complaining about everything. The aircrafts are the same, the crew is the same, only the prices are not the same of the US routes. That is because of the monopoly TAP does have flying to/from Brazil, as they do not need to get new passengers from other airlines, the price tag to/from Brazil is more expensive. But is also, most of the times, the only good airline brazilians have to be in any point of europe, or middle east, with only 2 flights. Otherwise they would have to travel from their city to a major one in Brazil (where other european airline flies to/from), there goes 1 flight, then the transatlantic one and finally the european. SO, with that being said, the price tag is a bit more high but it offers the same product, join that with the middle class brazilian mindset and that is why you have so many negative reviews.
@@goytabr There are still half a million of Portuguese , or with a Portuguese passport living in Venezuela and in the last ten years a lot off Venezuelans migrated to Portugal so it's reasonable to maintain the connection.
Thanks for uploading this at this time! Im flying with them on their a330 neo in August to Chicago so I was hoping you would do a video with them so Im so grateful!
More like...they are "cheap" because the Portuguese gov wastes 1 to 1.5 Billion a year to keep it operating... 5 Billion so far and counting in the last few years!😅
In Portugal, people have the right to privacy even in public, so if you were "told off" its normal, as it is the law. what you need to say is: "this is for personal use only, and i can show you I am only taking wide shots and not focus on any one person or any thing". and let's say you put the video on YT, if someone that is in your video asks, you have to take it down. or blur the person.
At least someone clapped for that smooooooth landing. I think passengers should cultivate that habit, especially on long haul flights, cause a lot goes on in the cockpit for passenger safety which they dont see. Thiugh during de boarding passengers say thanks but as a pilot, hearing an applause also lifts their spirits very much ;). Thanks for the video. Loved the views❤
@@extsaojose indeed, they do have some promotions from time to time, it must be said, but generally speaking, I wouldn’t consider it to be an affordable company.
@@skurinski it’s not very cheap from Lisbon, try to find an affordable flight from Lisbon to Luanda, for example, and the prices will make your jaw drop…if you’re poor, of course 🥲
International flights are great. National flights a nightmare. Prefer to use train than connection flights. Never know when they are delayed (for long time) or cancelled.
Wait... What?!?! Cheap? Every single time I try to book an international flight with TAP it costs me one arn and a legg... Each way. I needed tickets to Hamburg in April, TAP asked me for 511€ (economy) each way. I got it for 189 for Lufthansa (classic economy, Round trip). I must be missing something...
I was plan to go from LIS to CPH, but all plane into whole Europe were cancelled that saturday - but TAP were flying overseas, I had to wait 4 days to return to CPH. And I had to wait 14 month for compensation.
I like TAP, before COVID, I took from Madrid to Lisboa, Sevilla to Lisboa, all included free refreshment snacks and drinks. But. it is sad that the airline has turned this to Buy on board after the pandemic.. Even with the flight more than 3 hours, there is no free drinks. Hope that they could consider again for the free service..
TAP is the bee's knees , the dog's bollox. Unbeatable is price vs quality ratio. Severely underated. Never disappoints Kinda weird how sometimes everybody claps when the pilot lands. I mean that's his job, it shouldn't be a celebration but whatever 🤷♂️
It’s cheap because of the amounts of money the government puts in it to avoid bankruptcy! Over this last years it has been sold and bought by it and Portuguese people are funding it with millions of euros of our taxes!
I love Air Portugal, and it's my favorite airline! But to be honest, flights from Newark to Lisbon or even Newark to Porto are not cheap at all. You can definitely find them much cheaper, especially if you buy them months in advance, or buy them during certain seasons when they aren't expensive. But for the most part, prices range from $1,200 to $1,400 a person in the summer. I've been flying with them for years, lol.
Cheap? Man, they inflate prices so much so that you use Lisbon airport only. The same flight leaving Lisbon to Paris costs 400 euros and it makes stop at Porto airport but if you take the same flight but half way (in Porto) it costs 750euros.
"how can they be so cheap and so phenomenally good?" Well as a Portuguese born and raised the answer is easy: TAP just gotta be at a loss every single year, and the government just injects 500 million or more every single year of our taxes with no problem... thats how
@@frsrs5501 e eu não entendo para que serve a TAP.. ah ja sei!! comprar BMWs, pagar indemenizaçoes ilegais e vouchers de 400 euros mensais para transporte de executivos.
TAP could be an outstanding airline, if they were not corrupt and mismanaged. Lately TP has been a nightmare, but I never had a problem with them. As Portuguese, I am proud of my TP aircrafts, pilots and maintenance people, but their ground, onboard, and phone staff can be gruff, snotty and incompetent. Still, they have the best pilots, landings, mechanics and are the 6th safest in the world. Their inflight svc used tb outstanding. It has gone down, but it still is better than most others . We don't want to lose our national carrier, but the chronic mismanagement, and corruption within has almost shut down TP. I hope its financial situation improves. Thanks for reviewing TP and for the positive review. 🙏❤️🇵🇹
tem de haver sempre um cromo a falar mal do que é nosso. quando os outros nos estão a elogiar. você quando se vê ao espelho também reclama? (isto não é um ataque ao seu visual, é só mesmo para saber se você gosta de reclamar)
@@frsrs5501 A sério? Vc têm problemas de interpretação? É só para saber se realmente leu o meu comentário! O facto de ser portuguesa não significa q tenho que aceitar burlas, charlatãos, e incompetência ou vc acompanha com os do tipo? A realidade é esta. Gosto muito da TAP, MAS é como o nosso país; maravilhoso (e isto e aquilo) mas a realidade é outra. Portanto, aprenda a reconhecer a verdade, ao invés de demonstrar um nacionalismo barato e fosco! Tá boa... 🙄
@@Alfablue227 o vídeo em questão fala da experiência de voar na TAP, e não da conjeturas macro económicas da empresa. Por isso se quiser contribuir para o vídeo faça sobre o tema e não se coloque em tangencias. (como fez no final do seu comentário inicial) por exemplo: nesta secção de comentários há varias pessoas a queixar se do serviço e da diferença entre voar para o Brasil e voar para Nova York. isto é um exemplo de critica valida no contexto do vídeo. agora imagine que é um possível cliente Americano da TAP acha que lhe interessa se a TAP é bem gerida ou se há corrupção em Portugal? ou o que interessa a um possível cliente, é se o preço e a comida são bons? se acha que eu estou numa de "nacionalismo barato e fosco" (fosco = brilho diminuído, talvez quisesse dizer tosco = bruto ou grosseiro), sim acho que sim, sabe eu não fui criado a lavar roupa na rua. Sim podemos e devemos lutar por um estado Português melhor, mas os estrangeiros não tem de saber em opinar no que se passa cá em casa.
@@frsrs5501 Lavar roupa na rua? Porquê não a lavava é ? Isto é uma questão de transparência, ponto. Sim, este voo TP foi uma boa experiência para este, mas essa não é a realidade diária da TP, e todos sabemos. Porque não podem os estrangeiros saber? Por acaso não têm direito às realidades do nosso e outros países? Você por acaso não lhe agradece saber a realidade de outras empresas, ou países quando viaja? Eu agradeço. Por favor poupe-me com o seu ardor proteccionista cego.
Current prices for South America and some European destinations are very high, not to mention the cancellations and huge delays which also happen more frequently.
Ooooooohhhhh.......... an A300-900 Neo, you say? That's not an aircraft you see that often at the moment, enjoy your flight mate!! I love the modern "bandit" cockpit windows on the newer Airbus aircraft, it's proper 😎!!! EDIT: Those RR Trent 7000 engines are absolutely magnificent, that 9ft 4 inch fan diameter is chuffing enormous......... I love it!!!! I also can't believe how quiet they were, even at take off throttle which is pretty much full power!!
Question: I am flying from New York to Italy. I see we have a change of plane in Lisbon for 1hr 20mins. Do I have to go through border patrol (customs). If I do, will it be enough time to catch my flight that leaves for Italy?
While their inflight product is great for the price. TAP was fined a million dollars from the DOT in the US as they intentionally delayed the processing of refunds to customers. Long story short. If your flight with them does not get canceled or rescheduled. You are in luck. but if it does and they don't have any suitable flights due to the limited flights offered and you want to get a refund. Good luck! It took me close to a year to get my money back.
the last time i went on an airbus A330 was when i went to and from Vietnam heading to and from Australia, on the Vietnam Airlines A330s the seats are in a 3-3-3 configeration if im correct
Yeah, really cheap... TAP was saved from bankruptcy multiple times at the expense of hundreds of millions (€) injected by the Portuguese state. Ridiculous.
Isso nada tem a ver com a qualidade da companhia e dos profissionais que la trabalham. A má gestão da parte do governo não tem nada a ver com o propósito do vídeo que demonstra a experiência positiva de um passageiro num voo de uma das mais seguras companhias do mundo
its a private company that has robbed the Portuguese state of 3.2billion euros for restructurations but shortly after gave prizes of 500k to individuals on the administration that even left TAP shortly after.
Nice video, tks. Two things I would have done differently - I would have recorded the plane leaving Lisbon, including a view of the south of the Tagus river, and I would have called the attention for the image of Nikola Tesla in the tail of the Air Serbia airplane shown in the end of this video.
TAP has transformed itself into a low cost company - and I'm saying this from the perspective of a passenger. It was a good company 20 years ago. Now, maybe it's ok for long travel with the bigger A330 NEOs, but nothing else.
@@cun7us TAP is state owned and the portuguese government injected 3.2 billion euros of taxpayers money to SAVE the company. Meaning: the company cannot make money out of these cheap tickets, wich means passenger money is not enough.
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A 2-4-2 layout will forever be my favorite in any widebody
2-3-2 layout in 767s is the best but there are not a lot these days
Both the 767 and the 330, and the 340 am have the best economy class both by themselves. Sad the 787 can't be in the list thank to the airlinez
I flew twice on a United Airlines 777-200 many years ago (it was not even a -200ER yet, it was an original series -200), and at that time it was configured 2-5-2. Luckily I was in a 2-seat group on the first flight and in an aisle seat in a 5-seat group on the second flight (I can't sleep on planes anyway, so giving way to people that had to go to the toilet wasn't a big deal for me), but I can imagine that sitting in the middle of a 5-seat group was terrible. I also flew three times on old Air France 747s configured 3-5-3 (yes, 11 seats per row!), and fortunately I never got a middle seat, but it was probably even worse.
@@sergiolaurencio7534 Japan Air Lines is one of the few, if not the only, exceptions in having a 2-4-2 economy class layout in their Boeing 787s
Yeh same
TAP is the most underrated European star alliance carrier! I've happily flown a dozen of their flights and never had an issue.
I’m from Rome and I have family in Lisbon, every time is a shame with tap on European flights, they don’t even give you a glass of water.
So now I’m flying only Ryanair, why paying so much more for… Nothing!
@@salvatoresammarco1580 Until 5 years ago, TAP was not like this. They provided food and drink for economy class on all their flights, including Lisbon-Porto, a flight that takes less than 45 minutes. With the negative financial results, a restructuring was carried out and, unfortunately, they cut economy class food on short flights.
Until they cancel your flight ...
They may not be in Star Alliance that much longer, though I'm not sure who wins if we end up with TAP and ITA swapping alliances.
@@salvatoresammarco1580 Actually they do give you a glass of water. You just have to ask the crew for it ;)
Flown on TAP Air Portugal through to Canada many times, one of my favourite European Carriers, just so simple and comfortable.
I flew them the other way (Newark to Porto) last summer and I have to say they were great, especially for the price!
The crew was extremely professional and hospital, good food and wine even in economy, everything was as good as it could be. Only issue was that the passenger next to me had some problems with his seatback entertainment system.
Have flown Air France, United, Swiss, and LEVEL in the past year as well and TAP is the best of that bunch followed by Air France.
Who here thinks this is there favourite aviation channel? Well done as always! 🎉
Always will be my favorite.
Fr I love this guy
I love aviation video!! ❤❤❤❤
I love this content
Watched him for like 4-5 years
THAT IS SO TRUE! We were 3 people and flew from Amsterdam to Miami via Lisbon and BACK for 1000 Dollars total!!! What an incredible bargain! Their hard product is fresh and new and the soft product is sufficient as well! Love flying with them!
TAP is so underrated. Safety and service are always on point.
Tbh not the greatest service since they are always having strikes and canceling people’s flights that’s why nowadays people here in Portugal try to avoid traveling TAP
not at all, they're probably one of the star alliance airlines i actively avoid due to poor service, fees/extras more in consistent with a ULCC and LIS is a pain to transit through and delays
TAP is the most under rated European carrier. It can be a little hit or miss depending on the crew, but it is usually charming and pleasant.
The problem with TAP are the strikes, every summer they do strikes, so it’s make difficult to travel with them
@@tiagoguerra4617 That means, the problem itself is TAP, not the strikes
@@tiagoguerra4617 that is a lie, since 2015 they only had 1 strike from the cabin crew, none from pilots and all after covid… 2015 was 8 years ago… you can be sued with your statement, be carefull
Ganhou agora o prémio de 3ª melhor companhia da Europa e a 13ª do mundo!! 🤔
Amazing video!!!! I love trip reports the most, although brutally honest is also quite enjoyable.
TAP looks like a nice airline, the A330-900 neo looks beautiful and those seats look nicely designed.
I love TAP. I have flown with TAP countless times from San Francisco and Boston to Barcelona via Lisbon over the last 11 years. Great prices, never had a problem. I think the worst thing that happned to me was I once had a 4 hour layover in Lisbon but for the price it was no big deal. TAP is always my first choice when flying to and from the US and Europe. I always recommend TAP to friends. Just love 'em. I also like the 2-4-2 sea configuration!!!!
Hello I am about yo fly with them next September, with a stop in Lisbon, to Paris, they just gave me 2 hrs to change the airplane, do you think that time is enough?
@@alexisramon4872I too need some info on this. Heading to Italy and I have 1hr 30 mins to catch my flight.
@@alexisramon4872hi..we are flying from SF to Paris in December with a layover in Lisbon. How’s TAP experience? We have already booked our tickets but now I’m worried about the negative comments on luggage missing and flight cancellations😢
I know this is an old comment, but for those who do have connections, I personally try to leave 3 hours whenever possible, as in some cases, you may have to go get your bags and re-check them on your connection, plus this gives you some leeway if the initial (first) flight is delayed, which can happen especially with international flights from what I've seen / been told. So I would try to leave 3 hours at a minimum and probably more like 4-5 just to be safe, unless you have alternative means if you do miss your connection. But again, factor in time for dealing with checked baggage if applicable, and if you are required to do anything else (like go through customs) upon arrival (which is not always the case if you're just transferring through a country but not leaving the secure area of the terminal).
I entirely agree. I made a short flight from Manchester to Lisbon and was pleasantly surprised by the whole experience. 😊
I agree. A very underrated airline. They are still carrying over years of bad rep.
I flew them 6 times in 2022 between London and Portugal (LIS, FNC, OPO) and I cannot name one bad flight with them. Tried their basic, flex economy as well as their business class and all offered great service within their remit. Would like to try them on longhaul flights. Last time I did so was on their old & outdated (even for that time) A310 in 2006.
As always, great review, guys!
The cabin looks pretty modern, clean and comforting. Sorry to say, it looks better than on most Middle Eastern carriers. TAP can work on food presentation
I love the 'planespotting' parts in Lisbon and New York. A nice feature! Love from England
i love to fly with TAP,smoth landing by the way!
I had two great flights with TAP back in 2016 I hope they thrive!. PS In Lisboa they made change of gate announcements in English but not in portugese lol, half of the passengers were waiting at the gate while the other half were walking towards the new gate.
David, Felix are on a speedrun now!!
Keep up the consistency :D!
siuuuuuuuuuuuu!!
Every time I go from Europe to South america the fastest, cheapest way is with TAP , now with the new a339's it's a blast
Tap is a great airline. It's a joy to fly with tap. Flew 4x last year with Tap to Ghana. My only problem or let's say discomfort is the food, other then that, it's truly a great airline❤
that is the best looking economy class meal I have ever seen
The person clapping at 16:57- 17:05 thought everyone was going to clap with him 😂😂😂😂😂 I can imagine the person sitting next to him looking stupid. 🤣🤣🤣
Clapping at the end of a flight is common in Madeira. I think it's nice gesture. We in the U.S. are too cool for such a kind gesture.
The answer might be far simpler: the A330's default 2-4-2 seat layout. It gives you roughly 2.5 to 3 cm extra width for your shoulder to relax without bumping someone next to you. I think travelers always take seat width for granted until they suffer the squeeze of Boeing 737 seats being fitted into long haulers. I flew Thai dated A330-300, didn't particularly felt amazing, but that's decent enough I guess. I flew Garuda's A330-900, felt not too different, but refreshing nonetheless.
Boeing widebody operators like ANA fill its 787 with 3-3-3 economy seat layout, giving you 737 seat width for the entire long hours. While ANA compensate you with generous 34" pitch, the same can't be said with China Airlines' 777-300ER with its dreadful 3-4-3 layout. Sitting in the middle, the armrest claim won't give you any extra comfort, since you'll bump shoulders. Someone next to you tries to reach for their pocket, adjusting their seat belts, touching the IFE screen or moving the controllers, you'll feel their shoulders moving about. Sitting next to the aisle will give you repeated galley cart bumps. Why do Boeing operators need these extra 20-30 seats? Are Boeing planes has some efficiency deficit that it desperately tries to address?
Kudos to TAP for sticking to standard 2-4-2 layout.
No, is because they add extra money to the airlines. By adding more seat, mean you can push the machine as it's maximum to get the more of it. The 777 and 787 are very wide of fuselage.
Great report ! Whats the letter font you use in this video?
Long haul on TAP: great!
Short haul on TAP: absolutely underwhelming
Flew TAP a few years ago in one of their A340 from GRU to LIS, I still remember the huge reclination of the economy seats, something out of this world!
As a portuguese i came here to say that the company is mantaining with the money of our taxes... we keep rescuing TAP because somehow its always going bankrupt... Also TAP is full of corruption inside and the portuguese are tired of it.
If the company don't stay public or in majority, forget the Lisbon hub, give me a break and don't be idiot.
tens de vir para aqui reclamar??? o que raio tem a ver os corruptos de Portugal com o serviço da TAP?
os Portugueses estamos fartos da TAP??? desde quando? não recebi esse memorando
@@frsrs5501 Se nao sabes do que os portugueses estao fartos e melhor abrires os olhinhos, os resgates feitos a TAP com o nosso contribuinte.. Se não vês começa a ver
@@frsrs5501 Alias, o serviço da TAP é tão bom e precisam de andar sempre a ser salvos? alguma coisa não bate certo
@@MeredyFT eu gosto de ver pessoas escreverem que o "privado" não presta.
Não esquecer que os resgates só acontecem depois do Passos Coelho e que a TAP não é uma empresa Publica.
Embora não seja uma empresa publica é de vital importância para Portugal, e por isso tem de ser salva. (minha opinião, nunca deveria ter sido vendida)
de qualquer forma o vídeo em questão fala da experiência de voar na TAP, e não da conjeturas macro económicas da empresa.
Por isso se quiser contribuir para o vídeo faça sobre o tema e não se coloque em tangencias.
por exemplo: nesta secção de comentários há varias pessoas a queixar se do serviço e da diferença entre voar para o Brasil e voar para Nova York. isto é um exemplo de critica valida no contexto do vídeo.
agora imagine que é um possível cliente Americano da TAP, acha que lhe interessa se a TAP é bem gerida ou se há corrupção em Portugal?
quanto ao "Se nao sabes do que os portugueses estao fartos" generalizar normalmente não corre bem.
abraço
This video illustrates the difference between longhaul in a narrowbody vs. widebody. On a widebody, the aircraft can carry more food options so they're less likely to run out of your meal choice. The aircraft also feels more comfortable in the air, especially with regards to turbulence.
I flew this same route in January on an A321neo, and I definitely wouldn't describe the service as phenomenal. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. It was average. By the time the service reaches the rear of the aircraft, you're stuck with whatever they have left, and if you're a vegetarian, forget about it.
TAP is not a low cost carrier. It's more of a hybrid, legacy in most ways with some low cost habits.
Margarina Becel, tenham juizo!
I Havent Experience Tap Air Portugal A330-900 neo,I Have Try Out Tap A 321 LR.Great Trip Report
and the Price...?
You should try he CPI version, very good indeed, particularly the 4.6 version.
I'm just sad that 3.2 Billions from our taxes were burried in that company. Lisbon lives from tourism and that's wrong and unhealthy.
When you were arriving at the gate, did I see a plane with Alitalia livery?
19:50 What the heck? I saw it too! I heard they made new airline and named it ITA, but if I remember correctly their planes are fully blue. Then what's that....
@jeomirit ITA is still in the process of changing the Alitalia liveries to ITA liveries.
Great video! Congratulations 👏👏
both intros are so good can’t watch it enough
Great video! Their service looks amazing.
Simply lovely ;)
100 usd for Lisbon NYC is cheap, how much return?
Another great flightreport👍 Thanks for sharing again. I just become member, I am gonna to discover your channel. Regards from Rotterdam, Netherlands
I'm not one of those guys who request flight reviews as if you were solely at our service and had unlimited funds and availability to fly wherever you want at any time, but I have a good reason to suggest you to try one of TAP's routes to Brazil (where due to the same language and many cultural and economic ties, TAP has an impressive market share on European routes and flies to 10 Brazilian destinations, which is unmatched by any other foreign airline).
The reason is that most reviews of TAP I see on Brazilian routes are negative (sometimes catastrophic, even in business class), nowhere near the quality you experienced on this flight, and it seems that they concentrate their best efforts on North American routes. The comparison would be interesting to see. (Their only other South American destination is, surprisingly, Caracas, which is basically off-limits to most travelers these days, for sadly obvious reasons.)
Interesting insight. And makes sense too. On the other hand l would have thought the Brazilian routes would command better service, but then, as you mention, it is east to take that route monopoly for granted. Caracas well, whoever is familiar with the situation in Venezuela, will know it is simply a utilitarian route nowadays.
@@thegospelaccordingtoant-an1379, it is not totally a monopoly because two Brazilian airlines fly to Portugal: LATAM Brazil flies São Paulo-Lisbon on the 787-9, and Azul flies from Campinas (near São Paulo) to Lisbon on A330s of various series. But TAP flies from Lisbon to 11 Brazilian airports (I had said 10 above, but I forgot one): São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte, Brasília, Salvador, Recife, and Fortaleza on A330s (various series), and to Belém, Natal, and Maceió on the A321LR.
All these flights are nonstop (except Maceió, via Natal) and are flown at least 4 times a week (São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro are daily). Additionally, TAP flies from Porto nonstop to São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro on A330s. So, the competition with Brazilian airlines is disproportionate. TAP also has an impressive European network, so it offers easy connections to destinations throughout Europe, with the added convenience of people speaking Portuguese on board both flights and at the connecting airport.
This can be significant: for example, recently I saw a video by a Brazilian lady who lives in Norway, was having a baby, and paid the ticket for her sister to fly from Brazil and help her during the birth and after-birth phase. Her sister doesn't speak a word of any foreign language, only Portuguese, and had never even traveled by plane, let alone internationally, so TAP was really the only option for her. Add competitive fares and you have a recipe for success. But the service is reported to be inconsistent at best, terrible at worst.
As for Caracas, in addition to the currently low passenger loads and safety issues for resting crews, foreign airlines have pulled out of there en masse simply because they were unable to be paid in hard currency for the tickets they sold within Venezuela. And while there is a sizable community of Venezuelans with Portuguese ancestry, I doubt that it's enough to fill planes, especially at the moment, when very few of them can afford to travel.
Most of the few foreign airlines that still serve Venezuela do so for political reasons (for example, Turkish Airlines flies from Istanbul because Venezuela is an ally of the Erdogan regime, but it's a money-bleeding route, while Venezuela's own Conviasa flies to Moscow, Damascus, and Tehran, but only to Madrid in Western Europe, and even then on planes wet-leased from Spanish charter airline Plus Ultra). I don't think Portugal has any political interest in Venezuela at the moment, so I don't understand what TAP is still doing there.
That is not a problem of the airline itself but also of the brazilian mindset, always complaining about everything. The aircrafts are the same, the crew is the same, only the prices are not the same of the US routes. That is because of the monopoly TAP does have flying to/from Brazil, as they do not need to get new passengers from other airlines, the price tag to/from Brazil is more expensive. But is also, most of the times, the only good airline brazilians have to be in any point of europe, or middle east, with only 2 flights. Otherwise they would have to travel from their city to a major one in Brazil (where other european airline flies to/from), there goes 1 flight, then the transatlantic one and finally the european. SO, with that being said, the price tag is a bit more high but it offers the same product, join that with the middle class brazilian mindset and that is why you have so many negative reviews.
@@goytabr There are still half a million of Portuguese , or with a Portuguese passport living in Venezuela and in the last ten years a lot off Venezuelans migrated to Portugal so it's reasonable to maintain the connection.
Thanks for uploading this at this time! Im flying with them on their a330 neo in August to Chicago so I was hoping you would do a video with them so Im so grateful!
I have travei ten years ago wiyh TAP from AYHENS to MIAMI i had very nice trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:51 - pretty rare airplane at JFK!
Time to fix several typos in the description. Also - they are cheap, because they are keeping wages and costs down in a highly competitive market.
More like...they are "cheap" because the Portuguese gov wastes 1 to 1.5 Billion a year to keep it operating... 5 Billion so far and counting in the last few years!😅
@@Karen-bq1vn The cost, what you don't need to pay, or be reimbursed other ways, is in fact a down kept cost ;)
Uma das companhias mais seguras do mundo! Seus pilotos tinham performance excepcional!
Great flight!
out of curiosity, did any airport security come tell you off in LIS for taking pictures/videos of the aircrafts?
In Portugal, people have the right to privacy even in public, so if you were "told off" its normal, as it is the law.
what you need to say is: "this is for personal use only, and i can show you I am only taking wide shots and not focus on any one person or any thing".
and let's say you put the video on YT, if someone that is in your video asks, you have to take it down. or blur the person.
@@frsrs5501
Verdade !!
Cada um tem o direito á sua privacidade !!
At least someone clapped for that smooooooth landing. I think passengers should cultivate that habit, especially on long haul flights, cause a lot goes on in the cockpit for passenger safety which they dont see. Thiugh during de boarding passengers say thanks but as a pilot, hearing an applause also lifts their spirits very much ;).
Thanks for the video. Loved the views❤
Funny how a lot of people say that TaP is cheap when for a lot of us, Portuguese, it is a rather expensive airline.
Maybe flying from another European capital, with a layover in Lisbon, turns it cheap... Nós financiamos a tap e ainda pagamos caro para viajar 😆
@@extsaojose indeed, they do have some promotions from time to time, it must be said, but generally speaking, I wouldn’t consider it to be an affordable company.
@@extsaojose Os Portugueses é que ganham mal
Its cheap from Lisbon and expensive from Porto
@@skurinski it’s not very cheap from Lisbon, try to find an affordable flight from Lisbon to Luanda, for example, and the prices will make your jaw drop…if you’re poor, of course 🥲
International flights are great. National flights a nightmare. Prefer to use train than connection flights. Never know when they are delayed (for long time) or cancelled.
Whenever I visit family in Lisbon, I always fly TAP’s A330 Neo from SFO-LIS. Its such a good product!
Brilliant Airline and even better Video
That solo clap on landing YIKES!!! lolololol
The Portuguese like to clap because we always think we’re going to die lol
Wait... What?!?!
Cheap?
Every single time I try to book an international flight with TAP it costs me one arn and a legg... Each way.
I needed tickets to Hamburg in April, TAP asked me for 511€ (economy) each way. I got it for 189 for Lufthansa (classic economy, Round trip).
I must be missing something...
I was plan to go from LIS to CPH, but all plane into whole Europe were cancelled that saturday - but TAP were flying overseas, I had to wait 4 days to return to CPH. And I had to wait 14 month for compensation.
I like TAP, before COVID, I took from Madrid to Lisboa, Sevilla to Lisboa, all included free refreshment snacks and drinks. But. it is sad that the airline has turned this to Buy on board after the pandemic.. Even with the flight more than 3 hours, there is no free drinks. Hope that they could consider again for the free service..
I love watching full take off video😍
The Antonov is alive!! Thank god! 😢 Legends never die. ❤
Thank you for a great review!
Tap is super unrated airline! Landing the aircraft are like Angels
TAP is the bee's knees , the dog's bollox. Unbeatable is price vs quality ratio. Severely underated. Never disappoints
Kinda weird how sometimes everybody claps when the pilot lands. I mean that's his job, it shouldn't be a celebration but whatever 🤷♂️
It’s cheap because of the amounts of money the government puts in it to avoid bankruptcy! Over this last years it has been sold and bought by it and Portuguese people are funding it with millions of euros of our taxes!
This is a very Nice Tripreport Like all of You’re tripreports
Such a pity that TAP's survival depends on the taxes of poor Portuguese people.
TAP one of the world most's safety airlines company
customer service is diabolical on refunds.....they just don´t refund until you give up
They are a really good airline. I've flown with them a few times but I wouldn't say they were cheap. Reasonable if you can find a good deal.
I love Air Portugal, and it's my favorite airline! But to be honest, flights from Newark to Lisbon or even Newark to Porto are not cheap at all. You can definitely find them much cheaper, especially if you buy them months in advance, or buy them during certain seasons when they aren't expensive. But for the most part, prices range from $1,200 to $1,400 a person in the summer. I've been flying with them for years, lol.
Cheap? Man, they inflate prices so much so that you use Lisbon airport only.
The same flight leaving Lisbon to Paris costs 400 euros and it makes stop at Porto airport but if you take the same flight but half way (in Porto) it costs 750euros.
"how can they be so cheap and so phenomenally good?"
Well as a Portuguese born and raised the answer is easy:
TAP just gotta be at a loss every single year, and the government just injects 500 million or more every single year of our taxes with no problem... thats how
não entendo pq é que tem de vir para aqui lavar roupa suja.
@@frsrs5501 e eu não entendo para que serve a TAP..
ah ja sei!! comprar BMWs, pagar indemenizaçoes ilegais e vouchers de 400 euros mensais para transporte de executivos.
🎯🎯💯
@@frsrs5501 Ele esta a lavar a roupa em casa o problema é que a roupa esta tão suja que o mau cheiro chegou até aqui !
I like the way u zoom in on the meal tray and take the time to itemize. Well enjoyed and keep it up👍🏾
TAP could be an outstanding airline, if they were not corrupt and mismanaged. Lately TP has been a nightmare, but I never had a problem with them. As Portuguese, I am proud of my TP aircrafts, pilots and maintenance people, but their ground, onboard, and phone staff can be gruff, snotty and incompetent. Still, they have the best pilots, landings, mechanics and are the 6th safest in the world. Their inflight svc used tb outstanding. It has gone down, but it still is better than most others . We don't want to lose our national carrier, but the chronic mismanagement, and corruption within has almost shut down TP. I hope its financial situation improves. Thanks for reviewing TP and for the positive review. 🙏❤️🇵🇹
tem de haver sempre um cromo a falar mal do que é nosso. quando os outros nos estão a elogiar.
você quando se vê ao espelho também reclama? (isto não é um ataque ao seu visual, é só mesmo para saber se você gosta de reclamar)
@@frsrs5501 A sério? Vc têm problemas de interpretação? É só para saber se realmente leu o meu comentário! O facto de ser portuguesa não significa q tenho que aceitar burlas, charlatãos, e incompetência ou vc acompanha com os do tipo? A realidade é esta. Gosto muito da TAP, MAS é como o nosso país; maravilhoso (e isto e aquilo) mas a realidade é outra. Portanto, aprenda a reconhecer a verdade, ao invés de demonstrar um nacionalismo barato e fosco! Tá boa... 🙄
@@Alfablue227 exato! A TAP poderia ser excelente se não fosse a quantidade de corrupção que a nós nos custa
@@Alfablue227 o vídeo em questão fala da experiência de voar na TAP, e não da conjeturas macro económicas da empresa.
Por isso se quiser contribuir para o vídeo faça sobre o tema e não se coloque em tangencias.
(como fez no final do seu comentário inicial)
por exemplo: nesta secção de comentários há varias pessoas a queixar se do serviço e da diferença entre voar para o Brasil e voar para Nova York. isto é um exemplo de critica valida no contexto do vídeo.
agora imagine que é um possível cliente Americano da TAP acha que lhe interessa se a TAP é bem gerida ou se há corrupção em Portugal? ou o que interessa a um possível cliente, é se o preço e a comida são bons?
se acha que eu estou numa de "nacionalismo barato e fosco" (fosco = brilho diminuído, talvez quisesse dizer tosco = bruto ou grosseiro), sim acho que sim, sabe eu não fui criado a lavar roupa na rua.
Sim podemos e devemos lutar por um estado Português melhor, mas os estrangeiros não tem de saber em opinar no que se passa cá em casa.
@@frsrs5501 Lavar roupa na rua? Porquê não a lavava é ? Isto é uma questão de transparência, ponto. Sim, este voo TP foi uma boa experiência para este, mas essa não é a realidade diária da TP, e todos sabemos. Porque não podem os estrangeiros saber? Por acaso não têm direito às realidades do nosso e outros países? Você por acaso não lhe agradece saber a realidade de outras empresas, ou países quando viaja? Eu agradeço. Por favor poupe-me com o seu ardor proteccionista cego.
TAP Air portugal is one of the best airlines!
Nop
Current prices for South America and some European destinations are very high, not to mention the cancellations and huge delays which also happen more frequently.
Wheres David Felix?
how? with the help of our taxes.
They also flying with A321 neo to new york. Very impressive
Ooooooohhhhh.......... an A300-900 Neo, you say? That's not an aircraft you see that often at the moment, enjoy your flight mate!!
I love the modern "bandit" cockpit windows on the newer Airbus aircraft, it's proper 😎!!!
EDIT: Those RR Trent 7000 engines are absolutely magnificent, that 9ft 4 inch fan diameter is chuffing enormous......... I love it!!!! I also can't believe how quiet they were, even at take off throttle which is pretty much full power!!
So good
Question: I am flying from New York to Italy. I see we have a change of plane in Lisbon for 1hr 20mins. Do I have to go through border patrol (customs). If I do, will it be enough time to catch my flight that leaves for Italy?
Great sound of Trent 7000.(Trent means a British river）
Superb 😮😮❤❤❤❤
While their inflight product is great for the price. TAP was fined a million dollars from the DOT in the US as they intentionally delayed the processing of refunds to customers. Long story short. If your flight with them does not get canceled or rescheduled. You are in luck. but if it does and they don't have any suitable flights due to the limited flights offered and you want to get a refund. Good luck! It took me close to a year to get my money back.
Pls do one on Condor A330neo, I wanna see how good it is
in the beginning, a 2x4x2 configuration is shown, but at the 14 min mark, it's a 2x3x2 configuration?????
One less seat in the last couple of rows
the last time i went on an airbus A330 was when i went to and from Vietnam heading to and from Australia, on the Vietnam Airlines A330s the seats are in a 3-3-3 configeration if im correct
Wow, it's so beautiful that I thought it was an a350!
Yeah, really cheap... TAP was saved from bankruptcy multiple times at the expense of hundreds of millions (€) injected by the Portuguese state. Ridiculous.
Isso nada tem a ver com a qualidade da companhia e dos profissionais que la trabalham. A má gestão da parte do governo não tem nada a ver com o propósito do vídeo que demonstra a experiência positiva de um passageiro num voo de uma das mais seguras companhias do mundo
2:41 wow such rare occasion to spot an antonov-124!
Portugal might just be one of the most iconic European nation when it comes to online internet trends
Fantastic trip report of an excellent airline Felix!😸
its a private company that has robbed the Portuguese state of 3.2billion euros for restructurations but shortly after gave prizes of 500k to individuals on the administration that even left TAP shortly after.
Nice video, tks. Two things I would have done differently - I would have recorded the plane leaving Lisbon, including a view of the south of the Tagus river, and I would have called the attention for the image of Nikola Tesla in the tail of the Air Serbia airplane shown in the end of this video.
Answering the question in thumbnail: they received € 3.2 B of portuguese tax payers money...
Nice video PS
TAP has transformed itself into a low cost company - and I'm saying this from the perspective of a passenger. It was a good company 20 years ago. Now, maybe it's ok for long travel with the bigger A330 NEOs, but nothing else.
What editing app do you use?
19:56 who else noticed the ITA a330 in the alitalia livery?
TAP is one of Europe's best airlines in terms of cost/service.
Yeah. Thank the portuguese tax payers.
@@JoaoRodrigues- they don't fund the airline, the passengers do.
@@cun7us TAP is state owned and the portuguese government injected 3.2 billion euros of taxpayers money to SAVE the company. Meaning: the company cannot make money out of these cheap tickets, wich means passenger money is not enough.
I love TAP!!!!
übrigens am Anfang. Links geht es runter zur Metro und damit schnell ins Stadtzentrum etc
You shoud try someday the TP11 to Recife.