I live 10-15 minutes from Steamboat Springs, I've often seen Eric around, as well as Ann Driggers and Jon Yazzie. I don't own any products from BA as they're out of my price range, but it's cool to see many people using them.
Is this an older version of the BA tent? Or new? The one I'm seeing now (for example on the REI website) has that weird front porch flap that you can put on trekking poles. Thanks for the in depth review.
The one I review here is the gen prior to what you are seeing on REI. I think the only difference is how they have that porch flap for use with trekking poles.
As a Brit looking for a new tent primarily for out wet climate, I am concerned about how far the rain fly is off the ground, and hence the possibility of horizontal wind driven rain to get through into the inner. British madeTents I've had in the past have had flys that come much closer to the ground ( I know that means less ventilation). Have you any experience of this issue
Well I am currently in England now doing the Coast to Coast Hike and have heard stories of the rain! Haven’t experienced “horizontal” rain but can add that I’ve had this tent in both wind and rainstorms, including one time we woke up to find ourselves surrounded by several inches of water (poor site I thus learned), yet was perfectly dry inside. The walls of the tent along the door sides are probably 4, maybe 5 inches off the ground and that helps. I do think I you would be fine.
@@fourbrothersgear I can add to this as a UK resident who owns this tent. I've never had a problem with rain. I had the same initial reaction about the fly being a little too far off the ground, however, BA has appears to have thought it through well by making the waterproofed lower wall section of the tent higher to compensate as FBG pointed out above. I've never had a problem with water ingress.
I have this tent and like it, especially the doors and large storage pockets - but I hate that i can't buckle the ground sheet to the tent inner, like I could on my Nemo (just makes set up so much easier). Was interested to see that you looped the tent inner under the ground sheet when attaching the poles. Do you find this helps keep everything together during the set up? Cheers from Australia.
That is definitely possible. It's a few years ago, but another channel (a professional outfitter/guide, I think) actually demonstrated this ... may have been with the 3 person version (but same difference). But, the short answer is that you have to have the footprint and then you can do what you described: footprint + fly = rain dome structure ... then attach the tent body from inside.
Yeah. In Death Valley I experienced super high winds and needed to stake out the guy-lines. Once they were set, the tent held really well. Regarding rain, endured a few long storms including an all-nighter that resulted in our entire campsite being flooded! Was like we pitched the tent in a lake. Totally dry inside. Condensation, some in dewey situations, but the fly is nicely separated and kept it off the main tent pretty well.
Awesome review, sadly quickly fell out of my consideration because of the tapered design, would rather have a fully rectangular floor plan. I can see why people use this tent so much though. -That additional stabilizer pole looks like it isn't doing too much. Is it possible to set this up fully without it? -Velcro straps to hold in Rainfly, why? That seems like a strange decision.
Thanks for the note. The tapered design, I think, is strictly to shave weight, and for me, that trade-off was worth it - notably for when I go longer distances and am carrying it solo. If you can deal with more weight, I can fully endorse the REI Halfdome 2+ tent as a solid option. See my review on that one for more info. Upside --> more room for sure AND much less expensive. Downside, 2 pounds heavier! RE: the top pole, it's needed to spread out the rain fly on top as well as provide spacing between it and the main tent. Not sure what to say about the velcro straps for the rain fly other than if in super windy conditions, I think they help keep it tight and not sag. Good luck on your search for a different option.
Fair question! All I can say is I’ve used the tent in a few big storms and didn’t have problems with rain coming inside when I opened or closed the fly - except for if super windy - that is a bit unavoidable some might be blown in. Though as far as running in (like from the top), that hasn’t been an issue.
Yeah - I think the only material change was introducing the use of trekking poles to hold up the vestibule. I’ve seen that in some tents and have not tried it.
I do think it’s the best of this category for sure. I just can’t believe these prices on every thing that is geared towards backpacking. You can easily spend 3k on just your basics to go backpacking …… it’s just out of control. And I’m gonna buy this tent ! What choice do I have ?
100% on. You pay for the light weight to be sure. I have this one and also the REI Half Dome 2+ tent. It is an excellent tent and solid option for less $’s. Also a bit larger inside (bonus). Downside - 5 lbs for just the tent (2 lbs more - makes a big difference!). Check out my review of that one -
@@fourbrothersgear as I like to say about high-end, lightweight cycling gear (I bought this tent for bikepacking), "the only thing lighter is your wallet!"
No point in buying anything from Big Agnes anymore. Their tents fall apart and their warranty is worthless. On my third tent and I’ve learned my lesson. They say all the failures are wear and tear. They used to be good but now not so much. Save your money
Material perforates after a few uses and leaks particularly the fly, like many others material around zippers failed, many many pin holes in the bottom despite always using a footprint and most of all a complete lack of ownership by big Agnes and no warranty support. For a tent this pricey they should at least stand behind it but they sure didn’t
Idk what you’re talking about but Big Agnes gear is fantastic… Have used the rapide sleeping pad and copper spur UL 2 for years with zero issues and they have been amazing in all conditions.
I live 10-15 minutes from Steamboat Springs,
I've often seen Eric around, as well as Ann Driggers and Jon Yazzie. I don't own any products from BA as they're out of my price range, but it's cool to see many people using them.
That is a great tent. Well done review. New follower here. Crow✌️
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video. Subscribed. Would love to see links to the products for convenience 😄
Thanks - AND good suggestion
Is this an older version of the BA tent? Or new? The one I'm seeing now (for example on the REI website) has that weird front porch flap that you can put on trekking poles. Thanks for the in depth review.
The one I review here is the gen prior to what you are seeing on REI. I think the only difference is how they have that porch flap for use with trekking poles.
@@fourbrothersgear thanks!
As a Brit looking for a new tent primarily for out wet climate, I am concerned about how far the rain fly is off the ground, and hence the possibility of horizontal wind driven rain to get through into the inner. British madeTents I've had in the past have had flys that come much closer to the ground ( I know that means less ventilation). Have you any experience of this issue
Well I am currently in England now doing the Coast to Coast Hike and have heard stories of the rain! Haven’t experienced “horizontal” rain but can add that I’ve had this tent in both wind and rainstorms, including one time we woke up to find ourselves surrounded by several inches of water (poor site I thus learned), yet was perfectly dry inside. The walls of the tent along the door sides are probably 4, maybe 5 inches off the ground and that helps. I do think I you would be fine.
@@fourbrothersgear I can add to this as a UK resident who owns this tent. I've never had a problem with rain. I had the same initial reaction about the fly being a little too far off the ground, however, BA has appears to have thought it through well by making the waterproofed lower wall section of the tent higher to compensate as FBG pointed out above. I've never had a problem with water ingress.
I have this tent and like it, especially the doors and large storage pockets - but I hate that i can't buckle the ground sheet to the tent inner, like I could on my Nemo (just makes set up so much easier). Was interested to see that you looped the tent inner under the ground sheet when attaching the poles. Do you find this helps keep everything together during the set up? Cheers from Australia.
Great job thank you!😁💪
Appreciated!
Is it possible to setup the footprint and rain fly then set up the tent under the rain fly? I just bought one on Saturday.
You will love this tent! Haven’t tried that but I think it would work.
That is definitely possible. It's a few years ago, but another channel (a professional outfitter/guide, I think) actually demonstrated this ... may have been with the 3 person version (but same difference). But, the short answer is that you have to have the footprint and then you can do what you described: footprint + fly = rain dome structure ... then attach the tent body from inside.
What are the shoes that you wear?:)
Salomon Quest 4 GTX hiking boots. Check out my review on the channel.
ruclips.net/video/wG74vwt_q8A/видео.html
Did you experience in heavy storm? What about the condensation?
Yeah. In Death Valley I experienced super high winds and needed to stake out the guy-lines. Once they were set, the tent held really well. Regarding rain, endured a few long storms including an all-nighter that resulted in our entire campsite being flooded! Was like we pitched the tent in a lake. Totally dry inside. Condensation, some in dewey situations, but the fly is nicely separated and kept it off the main tent pretty well.
Good stuff. What footprint brand?
Thanks! For the footprint, I went with the one from Big Agnes, specifically matched to this tent.
Where did you find the footprint for this? I'm unable to find the footprint for the 2 person version of this tent :(
Awesome review, sadly quickly fell out of my consideration because of the tapered design, would rather have a fully rectangular floor plan. I can see why people use this tent so much though.
-That additional stabilizer pole looks like it isn't doing too much. Is it possible to set this up fully without it?
-Velcro straps to hold in Rainfly, why? That seems like a strange decision.
Thanks for the note. The tapered design, I think, is strictly to shave weight, and for me, that trade-off was worth it - notably for when I go longer distances and am carrying it solo. If you can deal with more weight, I can fully endorse the REI Halfdome 2+ tent as a solid option. See my review on that one for more info. Upside --> more room for sure AND much less expensive. Downside, 2 pounds heavier! RE: the top pole, it's needed to spread out the rain fly on top as well as provide spacing between it and the main tent. Not sure what to say about the velcro straps for the rain fly other than if in super windy conditions, I think they help keep it tight and not sag. Good luck on your search for a different option.
ruclips.net/video/RDJc8e8RkOo/видео.html
How is that door going to work in the rain? Looks like its going to run right through the inner wall…
Fair question! All I can say is I’ve used the tent in a few big storms and didn’t have problems with rain coming inside when I opened or closed the fly - except for if super windy - that is a bit unavoidable some might be blown in. Though as far as running in (like from the top), that hasn’t been an issue.
Didn't they change the vestibule recently?
Yeah - I think the only material change was introducing the use of trekking poles to hold up the vestibule. I’ve seen that in some tents and have not tried it.
Just a light 650-700 dollars with the footprint lol. My god.
I do think it’s the best of this category for sure. I just can’t believe these prices on every thing that is geared towards backpacking. You can easily spend 3k on just your basics to go backpacking …… it’s just out of control. And I’m gonna buy this tent ! What choice do I have ?
100% on. You pay for the light weight to be sure. I have this one and also the REI Half Dome 2+ tent. It is an excellent tent and solid option for less $’s. Also a bit larger inside (bonus). Downside - 5 lbs for just the tent (2 lbs more - makes a big difference!). Check out my review of that one -
ruclips.net/video/RDJc8e8RkOo/видео.htmlsi=tVqkgc7RI3ccYYaf
@@fourbrothersgear as I like to say about high-end, lightweight cycling gear (I bought this tent for bikepacking), "the only thing lighter is your wallet!"
@@SticksAandstonesBozoREI has a 40% sale going on right now. Been eyeing this one down for awhile and finally justified dropping the cash for it
Nemo tents are so much better!
Def a great option from what I’ve heard.
No point in buying anything from Big Agnes anymore. Their tents fall apart and their warranty is worthless. On my third tent and I’ve learned my lesson. They say all the failures are wear and tear. They used to be good but now not so much. Save your money
Sorry to hear that is your experience - and thankfully I"ve not had that happen to me (yet?)
What problems have you had with this tent?
Material perforates after a few uses and leaks particularly the fly, like many others material around zippers failed, many many pin holes in the bottom despite always using a footprint and most of all a complete lack of ownership by big Agnes and no warranty support. For a tent this pricey they should at least stand behind it but they sure didn’t
Idk what you’re talking about but Big Agnes gear is fantastic… Have used the rapide sleeping pad and copper spur UL 2 for years with zero issues and they have been amazing in all conditions.
@@armored-clownyou’d better hope it stays functional because their warranty and service is worthless