Best Gaming Audio: Headphone or IEM?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Never really gave IEM's much thought...until recently...
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Timestamp:
0:00 Intro
0:40 The Picks
2:22 Comfort
3:23 Sound
7:26 Convenience
8:09 Final Thoughts 
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Dude, the level of quality you delivered on this video for a sub 2k channel is insane. Immediate subscribe.
I love the intro editing sooo much.
Good job with that one!
Thank you!
I got both recently, really enjoy both.
I’m using the KZ ZS-10 Pros as my first fair. They are awesome so far.
This is an astounding amount of quality for only 2k subs...
3:10 if the cable has preformed hooks, I just pull the iems out and let them hang if I have to take a break
I went down the IEM rabbit hole around 6 months ago. I've tried the 7hz Zero (originals), KZ ZX10, Truthear Zero (blues) and Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite. While the Kiwi's were further ahead in clarity, the lack of bass made them a pass for me. They were absolutely gorgeous and had a lot going for them, returning them was a difficult decision.
I've since stuck with the Truthear Zero Blue's. They have excellent bass and the clarity is also quite good. I also have them plugged into an Elgato Wave 3 mic that offers excellent mic monitoring.
Great review!
Thanks for sharing!
The bass on the Truthear zero's really is some of the best I've ever heard. Never considered myself a bass head either, but I often find myself reaching for them after using other headphones for a while because I just miss that extra umph
i had to return my kiwis. got some fucke product. and the left one kept falling out of the cable very easily. I got simgot em6l instead hopefully these do me good.
@@chettystudios the blue version is a harman ie tuned iem so basically its like having the zero red with thinner mids, more bass and more treble
@@-duckso which one is better for fps gaming red or blue?
I purchased 3 budget IEMs this black friday and have been trying them out for gaming and music, the Truthear Zero Red being one of them. I hadn't explored the IEM space before these since i've been quite happy with my daily driver over-ears: Audeze LCD-GX and Hifiman HE1000v2. All three IEMs have blown me away in terms of sound quality, they have NO business sounding this good for their respective prices. The Red Zero beat out my Meze Classic 99s at a much lower cost, both have very similar sound signature. My only issue with them is that the nozzle diameter comes in at 7mm+ and hurt my ears a lot.
The other two IEMs are Tangzu Wan'er ($20) and Salnotes Dioko crinacle collab ($100). The Wan'er have the widest soundstage out of the three but lack the punch, they're still amazing value at $20 imo. The Dioko are planars and very much tuned to how I enjoy music, they're also the most comfortable for me. Out of the three however I would still recommend the Zeros as the overall best sound for all kinds of media.
I agree with sound being subjective and it's what makes it so hard to recommend any one headphones, at least with some of these IEMs the wallet doesn't hurt as much if you regret the purchase.
P.s. bro needs more views, the production quality is top notch. You have my upvote!
Appreciate the detailed response! I’ll definitely be checking out the Dioko, big fan of planar headphones and really interested to see how they fair in IEM’s. I never really saw myself going down the IEM rabbit hole but for the sound quality to price ratio I had the same reaction, just couldn’t believe what I was getting for the price. Appreciate it!
try to use thin eartips on a wider nozzle, it kinda helps at least for me
@johanescandra using the thinnest ones that came with it, it's tolerable but still bad. Got any recommendations for custom ones? I see some on Amazon but don't know which might work well.
@@dhawalsehgal6809 the Acoustune AEX07 is pretty comfortable and it’s made of soft rubber material (cons : it runs around and can’t stay still in a straight nozzle), or the spinfit lineups might suit them too (cp 100, cp 145, cp 360)
@johanescandra I'll look into those, thanks!
Great comparison
Nice vid bro
I own a lot of headphones and iems. I have the LCD X 2021 for creating music and mixing and many other headphones. But iems are a no brainer for gaming (especially VR gaming) and I find myself using iems a lot more than cans. I have iems that are $600 (Symphonium Meteors, incredible) $800 (Bravado mkII) etc but the $25 QKZ X HBB are amazing for gaming. They have great bass and nice treble that is bright but not fatiguing. On the PS5 there is no EQ per se and you want something that’s easy to drive (volume) and sound full with good imaging. These are louder than most iems. They do the best job out of all my iems and headphones. Since they’re so cheap, get premium tips. I gift these to friends once in a while and they’re blown away.
Wow I didn't even think of the advantages of IEM's when it comes to VR that's a huge point!
I'll put the QKZ X HBB on my list, been looking for something not too expensive I can give to friends who want to get into the hobby that sounds like a perfect option thanks for the rec!
For Valorant, what would be a better?
I have little kids and they’ve basically stolen or broken all my headphones. I switched to IEMs so I could tuck them away places. I’ve tried probably 50 different IEMs (don’t judge me) and my top favorites are the Truthear Nova, Letshuoer S12 Pro, and Tangzu Fudu. I use the Nova with an EQ tuned like the Yanyin Cannon 2 because I can’t afford them, but the others I keep at stock tuning.
For games, the S12 Pro are nuts. I can pinpoint people through walls, but there’s very little thump of the bass notes with planar drivers. The Nova are my usual all rounders and the Fudu are great for music. I pair them all with the Qudelix-5k both wired and Bluetooth.
Anyway, try out some others. It’s a fun hobby 🙂
I definitely plan to thanks for the recommendations!
Helps that they're all so cheap (in relation to headphones at least) so it's easier to try multiple rather than having to save for months for one pair.
I really want to try out some planars next so the S12 will be on my list thanks!
I used to own headphones from well-known brands like Sennheiser (HD560S, HD660S) and Beyerdynamic (DT990). However, while these are great for audiophile listening, they weren't ideal for competitive gaming.
In PUBG, I struggled to hear enemy footsteps with any of them, including the Epos GSP 500 headset. This significantly impacted my performance.
Everything changed when I switched to in-ear monitors (IEMs). My first pair, the KZ EDX Pro, was incredibly affordable and offered a much better competitive gaming experience. The soundstage (imaging) was far more precise, allowing me to pinpoint enemy locations and footsteps with ease.
Since then, I've also tried the Red Zero IEMs. Now, I'm using the Simgot EM6L, which I consider one of the best options under $100. It delivers clear and accurate sound, making it perfect for competitive gaming.
With IEMs, I can finally hear footsteps clearly and distinguish their direction and distance. This has significantly improved my gaming performance. If you're looking for a great IEM for competitive gaming, I highly recommend the Simgot EM6L.
Nice to hear, I just bought the 560S and the 900 Pro X and just do not love them like I thought I would. I just ordered the Simgot Supermix 4 which seems to be an improved version of the EM6L to try out.
I typically rock the HD58x while gaming and the Zenns Mangird Tea2 at work and the gym. I use the Tea2s with the Fiio utws3 so Im not fighting with a wire all day, and I think they're considered a hybrid iem but I don't really know why? I never considered using the Tea2s for gaming, but I do feel like they're better for music.
Hybrid in IEM world means a combination of different drivers inside the shell. Tea2s have 6 Balanced Armature drivers and 1 Dynamic Driver in each side. This enables the manufacturer to precisely tune the sound signature to their target graph.
HD58x has the best imaging and bass, but now I used to IEMs I think they are too hot. I usually just them for a special game to me, like ME, GoW, etc. The rest I prefer IEMs, they are 15~20% worst, but I don't feel I'm wearing them.
I want to try IEM's because of comfort, headphones can make me sweat and are heavy and can hurt if you use glasses, finally removing them at the end of the day is alleviating. The problem with IEM's is moving around like you said, so I'd like Wireless with 12+ hours battery and dedicated 2.4hz dongle for low delay for gaming, but they simply don't exist, except the Sony Inzone but it seems the batteries can start dying a few months after use. so it is what it is, I'll try a cheap IEM's like the one you have. good vid
@@javsama1 I’ve been looking for something similar and came across the Soundcore VR P10, I haven’t watched any reviews or delved too deep into it yet but that was one of the best ones I came across doing some quick research
@@chettystudios yes they look interesting for console gaming but the battery is 6h, not enough for me sadly.
I just bought the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero Reds. I already have a pair of DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms which are on my main PC. I do travel a fair bit, but I was wondering how the Zero Reds compare to the Beyerdynamics. When it comes to gaming, I play Tarkov, and I've heard that IEMs are good for that. Then again, I guess it's good to have variety for different needs.
Exact same setup I’m currently using. Reds for on the go/around the house and DT 770 Pro for gaming. Solid combo.
How do you like the Reds?
@@chettystudios Still waiting for the package to be shipped, but I'm very excited to see the results.
The zero blue has more clarity than the reds
Great vid
Appreciate it dude!
I hear too much 'noises from the body' with IEMs like when you breathe, move, swallow, move your jaw, etc. I have to sit perfectly still and Idk what the solution is. I think IEMs feel more comfortable because I wear glasses and the headphones pinch the frames against my head... Any ideas?
I wear glasses with headphones and some of them definitely annoy. I'd recommend searching for some with minimal clamp force, I've found hifiman openbacks to fair well with comfort but they can be on the pricey side.
@@dhawalsehgal6809 This. In my experience Senn’s have a much stronger clamping force and can definitely see how they’d be uncomfortable with glasses. My Hifiman’s however, are much looser and probably would be far more comfortable with glasses
@@chettystudios 560S absolutely kill me with glasses unfortunately.
Damn!! What a video!! bottom line. It wont make me a better game..Jokes. Thanks a lot Chetty. I have been struggling a lot to decide on what to get but this really cleared it up for me! Highly underrrated!!!!!!
Thank you!
I recently ordered kiwi ears orchestra lite hopefully they’re good
Please share your comments on them
cool video
Ah but if you didnt say which is better then what is the point.
as someone with hair and glasses, ill never buy another pair of over-ears ever again after ordering my truthears a few months ago, especially with how hot you get over long sitting periods & the price to performance aspect of it you can get a pair of 50 dollar iems that sound similar or even better than 1-300 dollar overears especially if you listen to music while playing which most "gaming" advertised headsets sound like trash when it comes to music if you play and listen, so for anybody looking get either iems or look for a decent pair of over ears that arent strictly for gaming unless you dont mind switching/arent a music person but for anybody with hair/glasses theres zero reason to not get iems, also you may need an amp/dac or i just picked up a 10 dollar apple 3.5 to usb dongle and my iems are 10x louder
Kicking myself in the ass because I wrote down “mention glasses” as a downside of headphones comfortability and totally forgot while recording, really big factor here!
What truthears did you got?
crinacles the blue ones(blue better for gaming and red slightly better for music if what ive seen from reviews but mine sound amazing for both either way), if youre using them on pc also order the 3.5mm to usb c apple dongle bc without it theyre really low but w it i have to keep my volume on 20-40 to not go deaf@@AkaSora96
G PRO lightspeed Never gets hot for me. I have pretty long hair and there is no issue for me at least and they have nice game audio. Really comfortable me as well I forget that I’m even wearing them.
At least for me
nice as stuff like soundcore headsets are IEMs would be real nice for me like for example have a feeling wondering around a Coastal town wearing thick colorful over-ear is well intimidating for people lol
AKG K612 PRO is the best budget(kinda) headphones for gaming. Crazy wide soundstage, less bass and a bit more treble than usual. These sennheisers are good for music but way worse than k612 in gaming. The only downside of k612 is comfort issue. The headband isn't padded that is a shame. I customised mine with padding and had no issues afterwards.
I’ve seen these recommended a ton as well they’re definitely going on my list to try one day!
i think u need to try the more budget one iem 7z salenotes zero2 just for 25$ I'm sure u will enjoy it
I’ll take a look thanks!
6:52 Fresh Reviews in shambles rn 😱😂
Hahaha thats just my hot take, I think if I remember right he played professionally and I'm sure at that level every advantage you can get is important but for the average gamer, I think we could all benefit from some more practice before we start blaming the directional queues
For gaming, 7hz sonus is a must try. Its also good for music
I’ll add it to my list thanks!
I just ordered them yesterday 😉
@runex6662 enjoy em man. Theyre currently my favorite. Until I get something in the 200 range. Probably the ea1000...can't really decide cause I can only pick one and it's really hard right now.
@@chettystudios I also have a few that are good for gaming: QKZ x HBB, 7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2, ZiiGaat NUO, SIMGOT EW200, 7HZ SONUS, SIMGOT EM6L. In case you are interested.
At home headphones, specifically open backs, outside of home IEM 100%
i just unlug the iem jack instead take off the earphone, it works easy for me : )
will def be doing this from now on lol
LMAO YES!!!
Great mouse. Lets go FNC in 2024
Open backed headphones for me because of comfort and voice comms. For comms I can’t stand anything else. Even with mics that give feedback it’s not the same as just hearing yourself naturally unmuffled. When the action gets hot I want to be sure I’m being heard without being too loud.
Currently using a PC38x.
Great headphones I've currently got the PC37x and they're awesome. I haven't even thought about comms tbh but thats a really solid point
I play Warzone mobile is iem is best for these close fights
Makes no sense to compare iem with headphones that cost 4x times.
And, Top tier iem cost $5000 upwards too.
They have a better price spread and amazing at their price points
Personally, I'm more used to iems at this point. I tried using open back headphones but they just get too hot to wear in the tropics.
I'm used to the downsides of iems like the pain (its mostly initial, your ears get used to it), the lack of audio feedback and hearing yourself super muffled and missing amazon packages.
Currently using the Reds and they are great.
Good point! Something I didn’t think of being in a pretty cold climate myself. I know there’s different styles of pads you can switch out that may offer more breathability but at the end of the day, there’s still something touching your head surrounding your ear, and that can become uncomfy over long hours
Zero blues are way better than the red for gaming. I noticed this personally, plus a lot of reviews ppont out the same.
Honestly find what's comfortable to you and that's the best for gaming
The iems are good I own the red and blues they sound great for gaming don’t get me wrong but the soundstage is nowhere near a openback headphone especially the hd560s which I own as well
So which one is better for fps gaming in your opinion red or blue?
@@amritpalsinghsandhu583 I prefer the hd560s not even close but if I had to choose it be the blues
Simgot EM6L or HD560S ?
@@nimeshjaiswal9388 I actually own the simgot eml6 now and still have my hd560s the simgot eml6 is definitely better than those crinnicle red and blues and do a great job I still prefer the wider sound stage of the hd560s better
So you didn’t really answer the question…
headphones all the way
iems for sound engineering work and music listening 8+ drivers per ear, gaming 4 drivers or less per ear. Headphones for gaming in case you wanna save some money. Basically, iems are overkill for gaming, don't be pretentious, In my opinion, get a gaming headset of 350 bucks or less and you are good. Any iems worth having are a grand or more.
Iceman Issac already state he using those iems (blue) instead his sinnheiser hd 800...any word is a waste. Iems wins big time