What the F is up with the 22 thumbs down?!!! This guy is a living legend and was an inspiration for John Bonham! If his improvises, who cares! And, anybody who doesn't have some appreciation for Carmine Appice clearly does not know much about drumming or rock history.
He's all over the place because he just can't stop showing off. He's a brilliant drummer but this-at his level- lets him down. So before the venom comes my way I acknowledge his talent but think he's had much better days at the office. Peace.@@Strimbles
I met Carmine back in the mid ‘80’s, real cool cat, he was doing a drum clinic in Hamilton,Ontario Canada, just after he left Ozzy’s band and formed King Kobra. He looks like he hasn’t changed much at all, still a hard-hitting power drummer. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Carmine toured in 1969 with Led Zepplin. Zep was the opening act for Vanilla Fudge that lasted 2 weeks i saw that show in Albuquerque. Sitll remember pretty much the whole thing. That's why i didnt do drug's nor smoke weed. Im 67 years old n i remember the whole show.
What I’m saying is, Bonham’s expression is fluid that he makes what he’s doing sound easy.. Until one tries to emulate it. But, yeah, you are hitting the nail on the head about how difficult his job really was.
What? the whole comment section is filled with deaf people or what? This band is not even a B LEVEL band.It's that crappy band .Good grief ,has America gone mad?
@@markdemell3717 of course we know that.. in this particular situation Carmine was blowing the parts and it wasn’t the band throwing him off. It’s a Bohnam Birthday Bash so of course we’re critiquing the drummer the most. If it was a Robert Plant, Jimmy Paige, or John Paul Jones birthday Bash, of course people would be goin crazy over the chowder they were playing.. But, dude, I have no argument against your point..
@@missymiss3754 nope. no prejudice. just an observation. i mean carmine is a rock star. and he looks like a rock star. a rock star named carmine appice.
John Paul Jones, arguably the most underrated musician of all time was instrumental (excuse the pun) in creating the riff and therefore it’s original time signature. It isn’t a standard 4/4 “beat” although it *sounds* like it... This version is an orgy of egos and it shows how brilliant LZ were.
The band were like " What the fuck is he doing?" at the beginning with that shitter of a solo. Then he goes on to decimate the whole song, and the band has to constantly time shift. The problem with Carmine is, he listens to himself and is so consumed with how HE comes across that he forgets about the band. As far as he is concerned the band can take a hyke. He was so lucky to even be selected for Blue Murder.
Them , s big shoe,s to fill , one song does not make a legend , John Bonham was the hardest hitting drummer of His time and will be forever in My book.
Robert Glen...Man, that wasn't a lesson in drumming "Carmine Style". That was a lesson in humility. It's too bad, and a sad situation, when a master mucisian/drummer of his stature, can't even get off his cellphone and share some knowledge and love, with his devoted fan, such as yourself. A paid for, dyed in the true-blue, comrade, at that. It's life in the F-U fast lane; which has become too common of a theme these days obviously you were offended and for good reason. It's not about the $150.00. He oughta be ashamed! Best that you didn't allow the incident to tarnish you. Forever keep your music and love alive. Thx for sharing
After Bonzo died and the rumors swirled about that Carmine Appice might take his spot, the standard surface explanation for his not being given the chair was never a knock on Carmine but that the rest of the band were too great of friends with Bonzo to ever replace him. No doubt that is true, but I'd always also thought that Appice's PERSONALITY would not have fit in with the group. Now, watching this, I wonder if the lads also realized that Appice's (lack of ) MUSICALITY would not have fit, either.
@@lrn_news9171 Fair enough. Loved much of his work in Vanilla Fudge and beyond. But if he was too lazy, hasty or drunk to perform properly, that's on him.
I was lucky enough to see him do a drum clinic in the 11th grade, in a tiny music store in my hometown. Aside from being blown away (the Octa-Plus kit was his at the time), it's no wonder I have hearing loss now.
@@osiruskat lightly influenced, you don't hear vanilla fudge on the radio anymore, you don't walk through a high school and see vanilla fudge t-shirts. Zeppelin will live forever.
@@greatmtnclimber2579 Ian Gillian interviews always admitted that Deep Purple were originally a Vanilla Fudge knock off was well as Uriah Heep in a way. Vanilla Fudge took Zeppelin on their debut American tour when that shark incident occurred. Bonham was took a little of the bass drum heavy approach from Appice... something that he did that he didn't know he influenced Bonham. Vanilla Fudge was big in their time briefly...only good or internet radio will play them because really they were am acquired taste but there influence is felt thru other musicians. Mark Stein is an incredible vocalist, Tim Bogert was kind of the Billy Sheehan of his time. Zep took a lot of stuff from various artists and literally made it their own.
@@greatmtnclimber2579 bet you bob the knob of your favorite Zep tribute band. Get off Carmine's ass punk boys, he's rich and successful you are losers.
Another narrow minded fanboy. Yankees, Cowboys and Zeppelin right? You know he played with the likes of Rod Stewart and the faces and had a band with Beck?
Yeah, Robert plant Live wasn't any better himself. Robert could nail his shit the first 2 years ,even Live at Royal Albert hall he nailed it, the highest point of his career. After , he just stayed low key and got weaker and weaker.
John Bonham Told Carmine Appice he got the triplets Pattern from a Song he heard by him & made it his Signature piece as you can hear on Good Times Bad Times. Awesome Drumming on this! 🤗🤗🥁🥁🥁🥁💖💖
Along with Paul Whaley (Blue Cheer) this guy invented power drumming and some fine rock tricks, period. We can be grateful for that. Nobody ever played such heavy stuff back in '67 (three plain years before Led Zep).
I LOVE CARMINE'S SENSE OF HUMOR. SHE IS COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT AS TO BE EXPECTED. HE IS EDUCATED IN THEORY AND BOATLOADS OF EXPERIENCE. HE IS THE KIND OF PLAYER THAT INSPIRES YOU TO STEP UP YOUR GAME. THANK YOU CARMINE. CARMINE IS LIKE YNGWIE- ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THEIR DEMEANOR, YOU WILL REALIZE THEIR WORTH IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS. THANKS AGAIN.KEN
he obviously wasn t paying attention when Bonham played his triplets but he still is a good drummer and has his own style he has played with Great Bands an deserves the respect that comes with that. John Bonham was just unique an one of a kind in his playing he was GREAT AT DRUMNING an understood what playing in an with the group meant Led Zeppelin made great music together as a band like no other
@@ickysticky3672 lmao what no, phil is younger and they never knew each other lol, i think by apologies ahead of time if it's a joke and i don't get it
Ok ,this whole comment section is filled with absolute deaf people !!! Not one person realizes how shitty that band is or what? The speedy bassist was of on a solo,hey look at me ,i'm the plunky bassist ,playing the wrong bass for a zeppelin song.The singer had a rough larynx or what ever and the guitar player was ,fast ,slow,fast ,medium ,slow,fast ,ugh.Carmine comes out and boom,boom,flip ,flip, crash ,flam ,flam .Then the band goes way off on his count .today's generation are just dumber than ever ,god forgive them for they know not what they do ,their phones tell them every thing to do ,the devils cellular leash .Enjoy your 5G DNA manipulator.Sad ,real sad .
When Phil Collins played with "The Musical Box" in Geneve after 35 years, he needed to rehearse for some hours. Carmine obviously did not prepare for that Song.
My god, man, Carmine is clueless on how to play this song. Also, to the singer. Those vocals are hard as hell. No reason to kill yourself on the high vocal everytime it comes around.
@@paintingholidayitaly 1 out of a thousand agree with me ,haha ,Your a discerning man . That band was horrible and what the heck was that plunky weird bass sound? That was the wrong bass for a zep tune.Plunk.plunk.plunkety.ugh.Take care due and be good.
he's struggling because he doesn't understand the simplicity of that groove is what makes the beat so special. The guitar is all over the place, and Bonham would usually just followed Page, but moments like this tune and Kashmir were brilliant because the drumming counterpoints with those complicated guitar parts or parts that were in another time signature, on top of having huge, resonant drum sounds REALLY make them stand out in an otherworldly way.
What l see is a drummer completely full of himself... Yes Carmine is one of the greats but still has not learned the word humble. l watch gentleman like lan Paice, Carl Palmer etc who want to give back to the profession that has gave them so much. When l watch Carmine in this video, my personal opinion he was so busy showing off he totally lost the feel Bonham had in this song. To me the thing that made Bonham so unique was not what not only what he did do but what he didn`t do...
Thats about the size of it ... he's as grounded & un into himself as they come..& he is/was a great drummer...& i really do think people should bow & take a knee before entering that alter.
He didn't serve the song by dropping into the pocket and groove that is Black Dog. He was more about the one lick he kept doing and looking around seeing the reactions people had as he did it. Bonham would make eye contact because of a mutual feel moment. And yes, Carmine rushed it hard. I can see where as drummers get older and maybe insecure because they're question of relevance they may over do it but whatever. He's done his thing. pretty honarable just to be asked to do such an event. I saw him at a clinic at music land in Bel Air MD in like mid-late 80's, it was cool, but I was turned off when he ragged on Vinnie his brother who I feel has a much more original identifiable style. Fuck it, so many drummers are dicks and have little good to say about other drummers. I think one is born to be a true natural feel player that can move or make another person move to a beat or feel.
Geez, Carmine blew it. Granted it's a difficult song to play, but for someone that claims every chance he gets to have taught Bonham everything he knew....
Nah man, I learned that song in my second year playing drums, and I'm by no means a prodigy. What's hard to capture is Bonham's feel, but the actual notes being played aren't that difficult. Any intermediate rock drummer that practiced the song beforehand could have done much better than Carmine did here.
Brent Beberich (Woods) sounds great on Guitar. Brents been going at it since the early 80's. He gets better every time I hear him! Say hi to Daryl in Wildside.
This was an abortion on stage. Carmine is just so off time and the singer is literally probably damaging his vocal chords trying to sing something he can't.
Robert Plant always sang the vocals lower in this song Live. I don’t get why this dude had to hit those high notes of the recording. The guy was obviously killing himself trying to do it, noticeably ruining his vocals as the song went on
I think the commentary here is a bit hyper-critical. This wasn’t that bad. Dude has chops. So it was a little loose in places? So what. That’s live rock n roll. Lighten up.
Carmine, is a great dummer being very skilful and technical as what we see. However, this is a classic real life demo of over cooking the original song to the point of it being terribly bad to listen to. It’s like a drum solo and the ‘black dog’ song is just filling in the gaps.
Met CARMINE in ‘81’ we had a drum off competition at the club I worked at & him Joey Kramer(Aerosmith) Bruce Krump(Molly Hatchett) & Brian Downey(Thin Lizzy) we’re there just to judge & JAM. WOW!!, Carmine was INCREDIBLE!!!! the other guys were to OF COURSE. This performance by Carmine was NOT AT ALL up to his standards 👎🥴😒
Carmine is also pushing 80 yrs.old. Give him a break. He's played with more famous and not so famous bands that you can't remember all of them. He is still a GOD.
Just love seeing Carmine hammer these Vistalites...and Carmine just loves to flail on what he calls FALLING ROCKS...John Bonham does a great job in playing these too...Carmine just stomps these drums with passion...nice to see Carmine put these drums to work ala Bongo himself lol...right on BONGO !!
if this was Carmine in the 70's, (and maybe even the 80's) this probably would have been more enjoyable. still cool to see the older greats still rockin out.
This song is harder than staying married to your mother. The bass player is screwing the pooch by pushing harder than a Louisiana politician at a Pentecostal church.
Lol man that was bad, some funny comments on here. Black Dog is a great song on the drums to learn basic rock. It has so many rest notes and you really have to count and feel the breaks correctly, or it can be a mess. Also the drum fills require you to lead the band in. Its a great song to learn how to play drums to. Carmine simply felt the breaks wrong and instead of just playing simple he tried to rescue it by overplaying and that made it worse. :)
this singer is great Carmine is trying to show off all his famous licks, but it's not working. he's not locking into the groove of this song, this song is all groove
The first time I watched this I was floored at how bad Carmine played. I actually ended up watching it about ten times because I was so intrigued by how this happened. This is my take on it. Carmine came out and immediately tried to establish his dominance and control, started showing off and even gave a couple false starts with his sticks. I see what he tried to do with the song, to make it his own interpretation. But he failed to pull it off and completely ruined the song. That's called being a selfish musician, which Bonham certainly was not!I like how the bass player started hitting bad chords, at 3:27 and again at 5:23 the guitarist did one too at 3:34 intentionally I believe just to get in the spirit of the song being already ruined.
Wow. Just officially gave out my first thumbs down on RUclips. Absolutely murdered the song just cause he wanted to do his little stick flips and wack off with meaningless drum fills. That’s how NOT to pay tribute to one of the greatest drummers of all time.
" Thanks for coming out tonight ladies and gentleman. For this next song we were going to get Carmine Appice up here on drums......but instead we are just going to throw a lawn mower into a wood chipper because that will sound much better".
magnificent Man N Drummer.. Evidently those with Negative comments aren't aware that JB actually learned from Carmine and CA is just filling in here Graciously....Rock On Carmine..his is maybe 72 here....
What the F is up with the 22 thumbs down?!!! This guy is a living legend and was an inspiration for John Bonham! If his improvises, who cares! And, anybody who doesn't have some appreciation for Carmine Appice clearly does not know much about drumming or rock history.
100% correct. Haters only hate.
Thank You for your recognition of a legend and having Carmines back..
He sounded horrible on this. Not only did he play beats that didn't work for the song, he was out of time a lot and missed a few beats!
These little idiots have no clue
He's all over the place because he just can't stop showing off. He's a brilliant drummer but this-at his level- lets him down. So before the venom comes my way I acknowledge his talent but think he's had much better days at the office. Peace.@@Strimbles
The fans love Carmine almost as much as Carmine loves Carmine.
Man I spit my drink out 🤣 Never a truer statement 👍
Wow, that’s ambitious of them
@@averyetvspecial1487 😆
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAJA
@Fist Bump Carmine’s daily self-affirmation: I’m good enough, I drum enough, and doggonnit, John Bonham loved me!
I met Carmine back in the mid ‘80’s, real cool cat, he was doing a drum clinic in Hamilton,Ontario Canada, just after he left Ozzy’s band and formed King Kobra. He looks like he hasn’t changed much at all, still a hard-hitting power drummer. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Carmine Appice is AWESOME!!
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Carmine and Bonzo-both great power drummers.
Carmine toured in 1969 with Led Zepplin. Zep was the opening act for Vanilla Fudge that lasted 2 weeks i saw that show in Albuquerque. Sitll remember pretty much the whole thing. That's why i didnt do drug's nor smoke weed. Im 67 years old n i remember the whole show.
I saw Zep warm up for them in Baltimore. Needless to say, I was totally blown away by Led Zep!
This was my first impression of Carmine. He really is a great drummer and an innovator but I really wish this wasn’t how I first heard about him.
Bonham makes the music sound easy. Carmine just proved how difficult it really is..
What I’m saying is, Bonham’s expression is fluid that he makes what he’s doing sound easy.. Until one tries to emulate it. But, yeah, you are hitting the nail on the head about how difficult his job really was.
@@paintingholidayitaly what I’m saying is Bonham’s playing was so fluid that he made it sound easy. Until we try to emulate it
@@jamiefoster1998 really true
What? the whole comment section is filled with deaf people or what? This band is not even a B LEVEL band.It's that crappy band .Good grief ,has America gone mad?
@@markdemell3717 of course we know that.. in this particular situation Carmine was blowing the parts and it wasn’t the band throwing him off. It’s a Bohnam Birthday Bash so of course we’re critiquing the drummer the most. If it was a Robert Plant, Jimmy Paige, or John Paul Jones birthday Bash, of course people would be goin crazy over the chowder they were playing..
But, dude, I have no argument against your point..
I need Advil that was so painful ....
Carmine Appice looks exactly how you'd expect a guy named Camine Appice to look.
Sounds like you are Prejudice against people with that kind of name. Smh!
@@missymiss3754 nope. no prejudice. just an observation. i mean carmine is a rock star. and he looks like a rock star. a rock star named carmine appice.
😂😂😂
If anybody ever wants to know who the better drummer was (between Bonzo and Carmine), just watch this video. #bonzoforlife
No, go watch old clips of both drummers at their peak and then try to call it.
@@scottroberts7103 sure but Bonham would still win. Love Carmine but he’s not Bonzo.
Bonzo,of course.
The singer is awful.
As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
Comparing Bonzo and Carmine are like comparing Chevs and Fords
All icing, no cake!
With Tom Savini on drums and Eric Melvin from NoFX on the Les Paul guitar...
+l'Homme d'Après Demain
Haha Savini. He looks just like him I thought I was the only one who knew who Tom is. Lol
I thought the very same thing, too! Great seeing a Savini reference at random. Bizarrro!
😂😂oh shit Savini you fuckin nailed it dude. Hell it might as well been cause that was a fuckin horror show.
John Paul Jones, arguably the most underrated musician of all time was instrumental (excuse the pun) in creating the riff and therefore it’s original time signature. It isn’t a standard 4/4 “beat” although it *sounds* like it...
This version is an orgy of egos and it shows how brilliant LZ were.
Guarantee his brother Vinnie would have nailed it..
The band were like " What the fuck is he doing?" at the beginning with that shitter of a solo. Then he goes on to decimate the whole song, and the band has to constantly time shift. The problem with Carmine is, he listens to himself and is so consumed with how HE comes across that he forgets about the band. As far as he is concerned the band can take a hyke. He was so lucky to even be selected for Blue Murder.
I vote for Bobby Rondinelli as their next drummer .
Them , s big shoe,s to fill , one song does not make a legend , John Bonham was the hardest hitting drummer of His time and will be forever in My book.
Jason Bonham is damn close
Robert Glen...Man, that wasn't a lesson in drumming "Carmine Style". That was a lesson in humility. It's too bad, and a sad situation, when a master mucisian/drummer of his stature, can't even get off his cellphone and share some knowledge and love, with his devoted fan, such as yourself. A paid for, dyed in the true-blue, comrade, at that. It's life in the F-U fast lane; which has become too common of a theme these days obviously you were offended and for good reason. It's not about the $150.00. He oughta be ashamed! Best that you didn't allow the incident to tarnish you. Forever keep your music and love alive. Thx for sharing
After Bonzo died and the rumors swirled about that Carmine Appice might take his spot, the standard surface explanation for his not being given the chair was never a knock on Carmine but that the rest of the band were too great of friends with Bonzo to ever replace him. No doubt that is true, but I'd always also thought that Appice's PERSONALITY would not have fit in with the group. Now, watching this, I wonder if the lads also realized that Appice's (lack of ) MUSICALITY would not have fit, either.
Actually it HAD to do with drumming ability....bottom line is Bonham was a MUCH better drummer than Carmine.
Come on Carmine has been in many bands and has done pretty good shit.
Probably didn't rehearse for this
@@lrn_news9171 Fair enough. Loved much of his work in Vanilla Fudge and beyond. But if he was too lazy, hasty or drunk to perform properly, that's on him.
He would've been 10x better than Jason..... Bonham's supposed biological son
I was lucky enough to see him do a drum clinic in the 11th grade, in a tiny music store in my hometown. Aside from being blown away (the Octa-Plus kit was his at the time), it's no wonder I have hearing loss now.
I don't care who you are. Carmine Appice is a great drummer and has been since Vanilla Fudge. Strong. Busy. Entertaining.
Carmine has literally made a career out of LZ being his bands opening act for like 5 shows 50 years ago lol
That’s how powerful Zeppelin was lol
Yet Vanilla Fudge not only influenced Zep but Deep Purple in their way of playing heavy organ heavy rock.
@@osiruskat lightly influenced, you don't hear vanilla fudge on the radio anymore, you don't walk through a high school and see vanilla fudge t-shirts. Zeppelin will live forever.
@@greatmtnclimber2579 Ian Gillian interviews always admitted that Deep Purple were originally a Vanilla Fudge knock off was well as Uriah Heep in a way. Vanilla Fudge took Zeppelin on their debut American tour when that shark incident occurred. Bonham was took a little of the bass drum heavy approach from Appice... something that he did that he didn't know he influenced Bonham. Vanilla Fudge was big in their time briefly...only good or internet radio will play them because really they were am acquired taste but there influence is felt thru other musicians. Mark Stein is an incredible vocalist, Tim Bogert was kind of the Billy Sheehan of his time. Zep took a lot of stuff from various artists and literally made it their own.
@@greatmtnclimber2579 bet you bob the knob of your favorite Zep tribute band. Get off Carmine's ass punk boys, he's rich and successful you are losers.
Another narrow minded fanboy. Yankees, Cowboys and Zeppelin right? You know he played with the likes of Rod Stewart and the faces and had a band with Beck?
I give him an A+ for playing as badly as he can.
😂
Hey Carmine did u ever hear the word humble.
That guy is killing himself trying to make those high Plant's notes!!!!
Plant killing himself also! On live shows, he'd never went as high, as he did on studio recordring.
Yeah, Robert plant Live wasn't any better himself.
Robert could nail his shit the first 2 years ,even Live at Royal Albert hall he nailed it, the highest point of his career.
After , he just stayed low key and got weaker and weaker.
WITH ANY LUCK MAYBE HE WILL !!!!!!!!
Plant doesn't hit those notes in his live performances either.
@@pjsolarz NEITHER DO YOU !!!!!!!!
John Bonham Told Carmine Appice he got the triplets Pattern from a Song he heard by him & made it his Signature piece as you can hear on Good Times Bad Times. Awesome Drumming on this! 🤗🤗🥁🥁🥁🥁💖💖
Mow THATS so,etching to brag about! Nikki Sixx needs to shut his trap. Calling Carmine a “washed up drummer” is a low blow.
Looks like Carmine playing like he doesn't take the gig seriously. just sayn
I'm sure it's the position of the camera (mic) but it would be nice if you could hear something other than the bass
Along with Paul Whaley (Blue Cheer) this guy invented power drumming and some fine rock tricks, period. We can be grateful for that. Nobody ever played such heavy stuff back in '67 (three plain years before Led Zep).
Appice wit da big mout. Look you chooch, you're no Bonham. He kicks your ass in every way.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great drummer - and he would tell you exactly that before the thought even entered your mind. His arrogance overshadows his skill.
I LOVE CARMINE'S SENSE OF HUMOR. SHE IS COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT AS TO BE EXPECTED. HE IS EDUCATED IN THEORY AND BOATLOADS OF EXPERIENCE. HE IS THE KIND OF PLAYER THAT INSPIRES YOU TO STEP UP YOUR GAME. THANK YOU CARMINE.
CARMINE IS LIKE YNGWIE- ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THEIR DEMEANOR, YOU WILL REALIZE THEIR WORTH IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS. THANKS AGAIN.KEN
I got respect for his music career and all but that doesn't take away the fact that he just murder the song (and not in a good way).
!!! YOUR Comment reeks of Cheek...!
Why wasn't Phil X listed here? Turns out he's become the best known, highest quality musician of the bunch!
No kidding! I did a double take when I saw him!
Let's get together to honor one of the greats.....and totally half-ass it!
Forget about it Carmine!...hey!..👍..where's the Fonze!...
This is what happens when you haven't rehearsed and your trying too hard to cover that up
Does anyone know what kind of Paiste cymbals that he is using? the crashes, hats, and ride. They sound amazing
Paiste 2002
Never will forget my first introduction to Carmine was Ozzy's Bark at the moon video, made my jaw drop!!
Maybe try Vinny?
the Appice brothers are awesome drummers
..and so different from each other
he obviously wasn t paying attention when Bonham played his triplets but he still is a good drummer and has his own style he has played with Great Bands an deserves the respect that comes with that. John Bonham was just unique an one of a kind in his playing he was GREAT AT DRUMNING an understood what playing in an with the group meant Led Zeppelin made great music together as a band like no other
This song is all about TIMING.. unfortunately Carmine didn’t get the “memo”...
He was trying to be flashy ... :-/
Ya. Trying to do a little too much.. Too bad.
Carmine IS when he wants to be both flashy AND technical, consummate musician esp in his chosen music genres but also beyond
All the great Zep tunes to feature the drums and this is the one they pick?
Appice must have taken lessons from Phil Collins on how to cover Zeppelin tunes.Train Kept a Stoppin
FYI Phil Collins was almost Led Zeppelins choice on drums before Bonham. #FACT
Matt Montalto Is that true? Never heard that before.
@@ickysticky3672 lmao what no, phil is younger and they never knew each other lol, i think by apologies ahead of time if it's a joke and i don't get it
Or heart
Ok ,this whole comment section is filled with absolute deaf people !!! Not one person realizes how shitty that band is or what? The speedy bassist was of on a solo,hey look at me ,i'm the plunky bassist ,playing the wrong bass for a zeppelin song.The singer had a rough larynx or what ever and the guitar player was ,fast ,slow,fast ,medium ,slow,fast ,ugh.Carmine comes out and boom,boom,flip ,flip, crash ,flam ,flam .Then the band goes way off on his count .today's generation are just dumber than ever ,god forgive them for they know not what they do ,their phones tell them every thing to do ,the devils cellular leash .Enjoy your 5G DNA manipulator.Sad ,real sad .
When Phil Collins played with "The Musical Box" in Geneve after 35 years, he needed to rehearse for some hours. Carmine obviously did not prepare for that Song.
This kind of events just reminds me how Great was Zeppelin 's sound.. With no many people on the stage 😂😂
My god, man, Carmine is clueless on how to play this song.
Also, to the singer. Those vocals are hard as hell. No reason to kill yourself on the high vocal everytime it comes around.
Carmine's a great drummer but he's got one problem. He always thinks he's the show.
How do I love me?
Let me count the ways?
Saw him in 1970
Was better back then.
That's your problem . He is the show !
@@paintingholidayitaly 1 out of a thousand agree with me ,haha ,Your a discerning man . That band was horrible and what the heck was that plunky weird bass sound? That was the wrong bass for a zep tune.Plunk.plunk.plunkety.ugh.Take care due and be good.
He's just having fun bro.
So did Buddy Rich.
This shows how good Bonzo was and how he made it seem easy. Carmine apparently is having a hell of a hard time with this song.
he's struggling because he doesn't understand the simplicity of that groove is what makes the beat so special. The guitar is all over the place, and Bonham would usually just followed Page, but moments like this tune and Kashmir were brilliant because the drumming counterpoints with those complicated guitar parts or parts that were in another time signature, on top of having huge, resonant drum sounds REALLY make them stand out in an otherworldly way.
I'm sure Bonham even had a hell of a time with this song lmao....and it shows in The Song Remains the Same
Hard time?
Carmine did an amazing job
@@rogerwelsh2335I'm gonna have to assume you're partially deaf
What l see is a drummer completely full of himself... Yes Carmine is one of the greats but still has not learned the word humble. l watch gentleman like lan Paice, Carl Palmer etc who want to give back to the profession that has gave them so much.
When l watch Carmine in this video, my personal opinion he was so busy showing off he totally lost the feel Bonham had in this song. To me the thing that made Bonham so unique was not what not only what he did do but what he didn`t do...
+Paul Gingerich Congrats - never expected a post like your´s on YT. But I fear 99% won´t understand what you had to say.
+anonymusum Uh not that difficult to comprehend
+Paul Gingerich Carmine is SUPER Humble. In real-life, he's really nice.
+Paul Gingerich
Dude agreed on everything except that one you said he's a great drummer but i respect it :-)
Thats about the size of it ... he's as grounded & un into himself as they come..& he is/was a great drummer...& i really do think people should bow & take a knee before entering that alter.
I'm at Carmine and he was very cool to me man and he ripped that night with Vanilla Fudge
He didn't serve the song by dropping into the pocket and groove that is Black Dog. He was more about the one lick he kept doing and looking around seeing the reactions people had as he did it. Bonham would make eye contact because of a mutual feel moment. And yes, Carmine rushed it hard. I can see where as drummers get older and maybe insecure because they're question of relevance they may over do it but whatever. He's done his thing. pretty honarable just to be asked to do such an event. I saw him at a clinic at music land in Bel Air MD in like mid-late 80's, it was cool, but I was turned off when he ragged on Vinnie his brother who I feel has a much more original identifiable style. Fuck it, so many drummers are dicks and have little good to say about other drummers. I think one is born to be a true natural feel player that can move or make another person move to a beat or feel.
I think Carmine was on his own mental gig! He didn't care about the band performance.
If you want to honour John Bonham then support his son Jason and go see him play live! 😙💕
Barf.
I've seen his band live twice and seen him on tour with Heart. He's a fantastic player.
I learned how to do triplets on the bass drum from Carmen‘s video. Say what you want but he’s a good teacher.
Geez, Carmine blew it. Granted it's a difficult song to play, but for someone that claims every chance he gets to have taught Bonham everything he knew....
Nah man, I learned that song in my second year playing drums, and I'm by no means a prodigy. What's hard to capture is Bonham's feel, but the actual notes being played aren't that difficult. Any intermediate rock drummer that practiced the song beforehand could have done much better than Carmine did here.
It's 16 beats every break. People make it so complicated, when it's super easy.
Didn't sound bad to me, where did he fuck up?
He definitely helped Bonham (gear, influence and touring), but no way did he say or ever teach Bonham everything lol. That’s impossible, it’s Bonham.
Christopher YOU "think" YOU Learned "THAT" song....
Carmine did you ever meet Bonzo?
At 5:56 it seems me and my friends in the garage 1992 😂😂😂
Imagine being more famous for your name, than for your playing??? Such is the case for many lucky so-called musicians!!!
ZEP WOULD LAUGH THESE GUYS RIGHT OFF THE STAGE AND BOHNAM , WELL , Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW WHAT HE'D DO !!!!!!
Brent Beberich (Woods) sounds great on Guitar. Brents been going at it since the early 80's. He gets better every time I hear him! Say hi to Daryl in Wildside.
This was an abortion on stage. Carmine is just so off time and the singer is literally probably damaging his vocal chords trying to sing something he can't.
He’s trying to solo over a song he can’t even sync with tempo wise. That’s a recipe for 💩
I totally agree. This was awful
It's that bassist and the whole band that's out of time ,you are tone deaf ,good grief.
Robert Plant always sang the vocals lower in this song Live. I don’t get why this dude had to hit those high notes of the recording. The guy was obviously killing himself trying to do it, noticeably ruining his vocals as the song went on
The singer has Robert plants hand gestures, that's about it
I think the commentary here is a bit hyper-critical. This wasn’t that bad. Dude has chops. So it was a little loose in places? So what. That’s live rock n roll. Lighten up.
The whole world is a critic.
AGREED
Nah he got paid for this. He is supposed to be a professional, and it sounds like trash.
I agree, people are exaggerating
Just making John look better. nice1.
My 2 al time favorite drummers.... both super duper faNtastico.
Déjà avant même de commencer le morceau, c'est quoi cette imitation de Page dans le fait de porter sa gratte au niveau des genoux ? Pourquoi ?
Thst bass is up! Who's the singer?? Carmine is a legend
Great Job Guys
Carmine, is a great dummer being very skilful and technical as what we see. However, this is a classic real life demo of over cooking the original song to the point of it being terribly bad to listen to. It’s like a drum solo and the ‘black dog’ song is just filling in the gaps.
the " Black Dog " song is a rip off off " Oh Well "
FTDy
YEAH!! GLAD TO SEE MY TEACHER CARMINE AND THE BAND.
+janemba6
dude is he your teacher ??
Ok then it is like everybody says >
Met CARMINE in ‘81’ we had a drum off competition at the club I worked at & him Joey Kramer(Aerosmith) Bruce Krump(Molly Hatchett) & Brian Downey(Thin Lizzy) we’re there just to judge & JAM. WOW!!, Carmine was INCREDIBLE!!!! the other guys were to OF COURSE. This performance by Carmine was NOT AT ALL up to his standards 👎🥴😒
Carmine is also pushing 80 yrs.old. Give him a break. He's played with more famous and not so famous bands that you can't remember all of them. He is still a GOD.
Just love seeing Carmine hammer these Vistalites...and Carmine just loves to flail on what he calls FALLING ROCKS...John Bonham does a great job in playing these too...Carmine just stomps these drums with passion...nice to see Carmine put these drums to work ala Bongo himself lol...right on BONGO !!
Who's Bongo?
Carmine ,s cruisin !!! If the band played a full set ,this bloke would go right off!!A master!!
if this was Carmine in the 70's, (and maybe even the 80's) this probably would have been more enjoyable. still cool to see the older greats still rockin out.
Shit, John Bohnam is rolling around in his grave that this performance even exists.
Carmine was Bonham principal influence
@@mixirica87 at least according to Carmine anyways...
Patrick YOU Do NOT Know What the late great Bonham IS Doing...!
He was ask to do the song so he did it his way.
Carmine is one of the best drummers in modern musical history.
i love him always did .... but in this clip he's a pure, grade AA, garden variety basket case
NO GROOVE. man All over the place
If I did not watch this and just listened, I would think a jr high kid was playing drums..
not
are we more than a little jealous Dan? Give us a break!
This song is harder than staying married to your mother. The bass player is screwing the pooch by pushing harder than a Louisiana politician at a Pentecostal church.
o god i havent played in 20 years and play this better jesus
Robert Hardly-Hard Hardhead Harding I seriously doubt IT!
The die in his hair and Stache really effected his playing. 😂
You mean affected , Instead ?
your an ass. you clearly dont play and understand how difficult Bonhams timing is ... idiot. he is also like 65
Lol man that was bad, some funny comments on here. Black Dog is a great song on the drums to learn basic rock. It has so many rest notes and you really have to count and feel the breaks correctly, or it can be a mess. Also the drum fills require you to lead the band in. Its a great song to learn how to play drums to. Carmine simply felt the breaks wrong and instead of just playing simple he tried to rescue it by overplaying and that made it worse. :)
I love how loud the bass is
Straight up. Cool sound too.
Baterista de rod Stewart?
That’s me when I learn a new lick and trying to squeeze it everywhere. I expected more from Carmine.
Louder Lousey loosely goose You'd LIKE To "Squeeze" CARMINE "BUTT" hard-rocker Homie Don't go let alone play that way....!!
Are you kidding?
He played great!
this singer is great
Carmine is trying to show off all his famous licks, but it's not working.
he's not locking into the groove of this song, this song is all groove
Bob Rock on vocals everybody!
Good one
I remember the fudge, Zeppelin was their back up band way back when
The first time I watched this I was floored at how bad Carmine played. I actually ended up watching it about ten times because I was so intrigued by how this happened. This is my take on it. Carmine came out and immediately tried to establish his dominance and control, started showing off and even gave a couple false starts with his sticks. I see what he tried to do with the song, to make it his own interpretation. But he failed to pull it off and completely ruined the song. That's called being a selfish musician, which Bonham certainly was not!I like how the bass player started hitting bad chords, at 3:27 and again at 5:23 the guitarist did one too at 3:34 intentionally I believe just to get in the spirit of the song being already ruined.
That's what I think happened also lol
Watching this one realises what a truly great drummer Mitch Mitchell was. 👍👍🤪
Wow. Just officially gave out my first thumbs down on RUclips. Absolutely murdered the song just cause he wanted to do his little stick flips and wack off with meaningless drum fills. That’s how NOT to pay tribute to one of the greatest drummers of all time.
I still don't know what I just watched....sos
Wasn't he Rod Stewarts drummer?
Yes
A for courage, short bus for quality
Great performance, well done Carmine!
Dude you need to get your ears checked
@@jeffmusgrave6467 the whole mix was shit, but the drums sounded farking good!
Jeff YOU Got Your rear checked...!
" Thanks for coming out tonight ladies and gentleman. For this next song we were going to get Carmine Appice up here on drums......but instead we are just going to throw a lawn mower into a wood chipper because that will sound much better".
magnificent Man N Drummer.. Evidently those with Negative comments aren't aware that JB actually learned from Carmine and CA is just filling in here Graciously....Rock On Carmine..his is maybe 72 here....
Actually they ARE very much aware of it and that is why they are so negative.
I'm less critical but I get the point.
カーマインアピスのブラックドッグ素敵なドラミング、パワフルですね。最高!。