Fantastic review. Great job really laying out the pad wear and how it effects sound and touching on the build quality. I adore my dt770 pro 80 ohm. There just something familiar about grabbing them for day to day stuff even though I own more technical headphones.
Exactly this. Every time I've been using another headphone, even ones far superior I put on my 770's and I feel like I've come home. I often forget I'm wearing them, I might have finished playing a game, watching a video or whatever hours ago but I never took them off and they never get uncomfortable so often I just leave them on all day.
@@fgboii4687 sound fine without an amp may be a bit quite but i dont tend to listen to music at full volume anyway if you want a ton of volume get the 32 ohm ones they also sound great
@@blkmike1818 your meant to use an amp. It will be quite that's because they don't have power the main thing an amp dose. I'm really sorry but your comment just confused me.
I LOVE the DT770 Pro 80 Ohm without any EQ on it for listening to music. Especially Metal, even more so Gothic Metal, sounds sooo wonderful with these. The treble really shines on the female voices and the bass impact is just as well awesome. I love it. Somehow Beyerdynamic did hit my taste to 100% how I like it so that I dont need an EQ for them at all.
@@fgboii4687 (might be a little late of a response, but) you can use the 80 ohm version on a smart phone or laptop, but it’ll be very quiet, even at max volume. If you plan to use these headphones for mobile use, then get 32 ohm.
old comment but same. before I switched to linux I used to use my headphones with sonarworks to 'flatten' the sound, but since then Ive just been listening without EQ. And I love it!! they sound so crisp and a wonderful stereo image
I just got the 80 ohm version yesterday, and can say with certainty that you definitely want an amp with the 80 ohm cans. You'll have to crank up your phone/ipad volume to full max to get just a medium level of volume. It's fine, but it's not enough to please most people. They work great with my motu m4 audio interface though, so I'm definitely keeping them. Just figured I'd mention in case your on the fence about which ohm version to get. If you plan on using your phone mostly, definitely get the 32ohm version.
Yeah, I can validate this as well. My old audioengine d1 dac/amp didn’t have enough omph. Even with my somewhat new jds labs atom stack, I have to crank the knob to around the 12-1 o clock position on low gain.
@Has Goodles hi there! Can I ask you what is your audio interface/amp to plug in your DT 770 PRO 80Oohm headphones? I have the Focusrite 2i2 second gen, and I have to turn up the volume min. 65~70% to be at the level I feel comfortable with. Thanks
Based on multiple measurements I've seen, it looks like the 250 ohm version is more v-shaped. The 80 ohm looks more balanced. Not sure why the opposite has been getting repeated for so long.
I got the 80 ohm a few years ago based on a review I saw. The bass was fantastic and quick as you describe. Not a lot of mid-bass which is great (I find stuff like the hd650 and koss porta pro to have an ear-clogged underwater sound because of too much mid bass for my ears). The soundstage, imaging, and build quality are awesome. The only issue was the "mount beyer" treble peak. I would listen to guitar solos and they would sound great until hitting that certain note. Way too loud in comparison to the rest. Either way, these are my favorite headphones.
@@fgboii4687 If it's high end like a Samsung Galaxy or Macbook should be no problem. Mediocre laptops/phones may skimp on the headphone output so the 80 ohm may start to distort at loud volumes.
Yeah regardless of how much bass each unit has anymore for the 80 ohm, the big difference is definitely that the 250 ohm not only has more treble but the air elevates in addition to the treble spike. Regardless of variation, this characteristic above 10k has been pretty consistent with 250 vs 80 in my experience. I keep around a decade old or so DT770 80 ohm because the soundstage is immense and the bass is so much fun. K371 is a much better headphone for hearing what was actually recorded
Or you can try the Custom Studio which is supposed to be just a DT770 80 ohm but with an adjustable bass port and removable cable from the factory. Not sure why there isn't more hype behind it
@@metal571 think the adjustable Bass is for many a no go in terms of seriosness. The Feature has a toy charakteristic. I have my 80 Ohm Version, since many years and it did never bother me. Since over a year a use my Elegia as closed back, though coming back from time to time is always fun
I've wanted to try the Custom Studio for a while because of the removable cable mostly. But the price has generally put me off, I mean if its basically a 770, I'm not sure a removable cable and bass ports are worth 50% more cash. It is probably a neater solution than drilling holes in the chassis for a mod, but maybe less fun?
I picked up a set of these cans years ago but, as I found out in an odd fashion, I have a larger head than average head. It took a few days of leaving the headphones stretched over the box they came in to make them comfortable to wear all day. Something to keep in mind if you find these amazing headsets a bit too tight when you first get then. They really are bullet proof!
For people like me with not so good and trained ears, I consider a headphone with big bass (but CLEAR and FAST) and high peak around 8-10k, to detect the sibilance much more easier when I mix, a blessing. Ordered this today - eager to “see” how it sounds!
Yes you do deserve more subs than this for sure. Subscribed. Quick question, does the 80ohm version work well on the focusrite solo you have behind you? I bought the dt700 250ohm version and the focusrite was not enough for them, they were not loud at all so I returned them. I wasn't gonna buy a headphone amp...
Just got mine , love them , wow what quality ! I use with either a Play 3 or Play 4 DAC. Play 4 is USB-C so works with my A53 5G smartphone. The sound is incredible , after years of using plastic "gaming" headphones. Will buy a separate mic too , when needed.
So the 250 ohm version isn't actually more resolving, it just has more present/extended treble, correct? My curiosity has got the better of me. I love the 80 ohm version I just got, but I can't help but want to try the 250 for improved sound.
I got the 250 ohm for the low bass and I'm going to be running it on the focusrite scarlett 2i2 I haven't got it yet but I hope I like it this will be my very first set of headphones and first time using a daw or any kind of music I'm building my studio up now should have all my stuff by next week can't wait to start using all these awesome gadgets got a novation launchpad and a novation impulse 25 coming with sustain and expression pedals akg microphone booms and all kinds of stuff so exited can't wait 😀
@@rockman49er was the 2i2 able to drive the 250 ohms? I have a 2i2 too and I couldnt decide between the 80 and 250 version, i will use them for recording, production, and general purpose (music, films, games etc). I have heard that the 250 needs 100% monitor volume and it might be still be quieter than wanted, is that the case?
The issue with pad degradation is intractable really. I've been using Senn HD580s (with HD600 grilles) for almost 20 years which have similar pads to the DT 770, and it's always a (welcome) surprise how much the bass improves in quantity and extension when I replace them (on the fourth set so far). I've just ordered DT 770 Pro 250's because (after all these years) I fancy a bit more bass extension occasionally (I've started to really appreciate the double-kick work that many contemporary hard rock drummers use - love the "serene swan" effect when they seem to leisurely keep time on the kit while machine-gunning intricate 1/16th-note fills/patterns with the kick). ETA >> if you read this, have you considered how the two different versions are interacting with the amp used? Have you tried multiple amps? I'm using a fairly refined Cmoy (opamp) design with a 24v (Li-ion battery) supply and split rail (IOW +12/-12V), and although it should theoretically be fine with 80 ohms I know that ultimately it has limitations in it's current headroom (because of the rail splitter chip) and should be better with the 250 ohm load which I why I went with them (but probably going to swap the cable for a straight one).
Great review man! Really detailed and useful, I was looking for the right version of the 770 for me and I think I'll go for the 80 Ohm. Anyway, which IEMs are you wearing? I can't recognize them.
Thanks for the video ! I see the boss katana in some shots, are you using the 770dt 80 ohm with this as well ? I have the 990 which I use with my katana and my helix, but I find them too bassy and a bit muddy. The rule of thumb for the helix is 12ohm x 8 > 96 ohms impedance for the headphones. Would you still recommend the 80 ohms for that usage, or rather the 250?
Interesting. What amp were you using for the testing of the 250Ohm? Considering they are tough to drive, maybe that had an impact? I've had a different experience than you. I bought my first 80Ohm set of DT770 Pro's in early 2009. It was my first good set of headphones, replacing my old cheap and beaten up 1990's vintage Sony MDR CD250's I inherited from my dad. When I first got my 80ohm set in 2009, I struggled with them. I thought the highs were harsh and sibilant enough to make me cringe at times. The Head-Fi forums peeps suggested I "break them in" with pink noise. I didn't actually believe this would do anything but I gave it a try, running them for a week straight with pink noise on a loop. I'm not convinced that did anything, but over time I got used to them. It was probably a case of breaking in my ears more than it was breaking in the headphones. That said, I bought the 80hom version specifically because I wanted to run them straight out of the 3.5mm line out on my laptop and iPod. Back then dedicated DAC's and headphone amps were - shall we say - less prevalent than they are today. Like you, I prefer open backed headphones for music listening, (this is what I use my Sennheiser HD650's, or rather, the Massdrop HD6xx version for) but I like to keep a closed set around for when things are noisy. These days, I have a decent DAC (Second gen multibit Schiit Bifrost 2) hooked up with balanced cables (to avoid noise) to a first gen Schiit Jotunheim. The Jotunheim has ample power, so a couple of years ago, I decided to pick up a set of 250ohm set to see how they differed. Side by side, I find them pretty similar. The 250Ohm set is maybe a little bit more civilized, and I think I like them better, but it is really very close. (Yes, I used new pads for the comparison) To your point, this may be up to unit variance. Who knows.
I really enjoy your videos, love the style and editing. and your studio looks very professional. i have a little question i hope you can help with, i was going to get a new desk for my office and i always really liked the setup you have, where did you get it from? can you tell me anything about it would be deeply appriciated, all the best Noel hope your future is excellent.
Pads... I have got some more pads from Aliexpress and the sounds changes dramatically. I settled on this pair of pleather pads with memory foam and gel tops. I cut some cardboard rings spacers and inserted them in the pads. I stopped sounding muffled, the highs weren't piercing anymore but the bass seems slightly rolled off but that's absolutely fine. My DT770s are still bassy enough and now they are incredibly comfortable.
Just snagged a 80ohm version for $30 tonight. When I see a deal on headphones I buy them. Nothing fancy. SONY V6, SHP9500 x5, M50X, M40X x2 and now DT770 Pro 80ohm.
Great review! How's the volume with a smartphone? I've been looking at the 32ohm version but I prefer the pads on the 80ohm, also I think the 32ohm is brighter like the 250, which I don't like the sound of. Thanks
Ever since I started using sonarworks reference profile on them they sound absolutely amazing. Paired with calibrated genelec 8050s they sound very close to identical it's almost crazy.
I had many years old pads replaced very recently and I thought I bought a new headphone 😅 The difference to new ones is massive. I definitely will replace them more often now :D
I love these cans.. only problem. not detachable cable. renders the cans useless when they break, wire or the trs plug.. mini-xlr's are in most of the new cans, BD DT700 Pro X are already set up with the mini XLR detachable cable port.. (i just found your repair video... going to try it.. if I mess them up, then they are still defunct and unusable.. but lets see how steady my soldering hand is)... thank you for that modification video.. awesome.
I wish there were more resources to explain the sound of the 32 and 16 ohm version. I got the 16 ohm version as a gamble for $60 and I enjoy the sound and durability. However, nobody talks about since it was an exclusive for Guitar Center.
I'm so torn! These, or the K371s? I'm not looking for a super neutral set. Rather, I'm looking for something with a fun signature. Something I can enjoy bassy music, and big dumb action movies with. Would you recommend these?
I suspect a lot of this comes down to individual variances during manufacturing and not the impedance of each model. I just replaced an 80 ohm set with tame highs that were perfect for all-day music listening (and that I should have never sold in the first place) with another 80 ohm, and these new ones are painfully bright. I've personally found the change in sound signature when replacing the pads to be extremely minor, though this could be because the adhesive failed long before the foam collapsed both times I needed to replace them.
I need your advice! I am a family guy who have used the Sennheiser HD700 for a long time. With kids running around and noise in general i kinda want to invest in a closed back headset and this one have gotten so much appraise from everyone. But the question is, could this be good enough to replace HD700? I am not a studio guy, i like to listen to music and game with them. I am perfectly happy with the HD700's but kinda want some noise isolation. But if i sacrifice too much of sound quality im not sure, also HD700 is known for theyre great sound stage ...... not sure :o
@Wheezy Tech How are you powering yours 250ohm version? What you describe sounds to me like an under power issue. If you are using that Focusrite on the background that won't be enough to drive the 250ohm up to it's maximum potential. This being said I also own the 80ohm.
Thank you for your video, but I have a question. How did you carry out the frequency response test?, all I can gather is that the two responses are relative, but not knowing what the response of the microphone that sampled the curve was, it is impossible to ascertain the correct curve. As an old fart from a professional recording background, I thought I should point this out. From my research, I found out that the 80 Ohm version has a longer voice coil former so that the 80 Ohm version can have longer excursions (ie be louder) and still be within the magnetic flux. Difficult to explain verbally, much like trying to explain architecture by smell. Industry standard frequency response microphones are made by B&K and cost a fortune, they are used to accurately measure frequency response. Sorry I'm waffling. I love the 770 Pros 80 ohm. Before I always used the Sennheiser Professional HD 25, but have found their construction leads to problems. The plugs into their drivers fail which leads to them being terrible to use. I changed over to the Beyerdynamics and have not had any problems since. I listen at high volume and the comfort of the 770's is perfect for long and detailed listening. I would recommend the 770 Pro 80 ohm. Waffle over, and out. :-))
I watched the video but didnt really understand one part of it. What is the main difference between the 80ohm vs the 250 ohm in a general daily use task. I just want to play story games listen to the amazing sound track and play games watch youtube etc. Should i pick the 250 ohm or 80 ohm ?
I am looking for a smaller, cheaper but good amplifier/dac for the Beyerdynamics DT 770 pro 80 ohm. I have very little knowledge about this and can use all the help choosing the right product. I want to use this with an LG CX television. Is it possible to connect an amplifier to this television via optical, USB or 3.5 mm cable? And would this just work well with these headphones? If so, do you have any recommendations or can you recommend some products? Thanks in advance
@@carlosraventosprieto2065 I personally like both, both had my experiences, but I love Sony because I find most of their products really reliable. I’d go with the Sony, but just in case you should look up both, see the features and see which one you like the most.
'Nice review! Would you recommend this for mixing? I am considering this or the AKG K701 or K702 because they are open back, but I´ve heard really good opinions on the 770 for mixing, besides they are closed headphones.Thank you!!
If you want an AKG i heard that the K612 Pro is better sounding than the 700 series. I would personally not use a v-shaped headphone for mixing because it is not neutral and so you will compensate for the v-shaped sound, not saying that the DT770 Pro is bad just not neutral
The 770 80ohm and the hd650 are the only two pairs of headphones that I will NEVER even consider selling. I've had both for almost a decade and I plan on taking them both to the grave with me.
I see you have a Boss Katana and a Les Paul in the background, and I'm currently looking for a pair of headphones that can be used for practicing quietly with the guitar, with the headphones plugged into the guitar amp. What impedance would you recommend?
My experience with a ~7yr old pair of 250ohms vs a newer pair of limited edition 80ohms was that the bass was definitely slightly boosted on the 80ohms over the older 250ohms. Your investigation into pad wear seems to show that it may have had a lot to do with what I thought I was hearing and was not something I considered at the time. I would highly recommend trying the MMX300s, I originally planned to upgrade my DT770 80ohms to the DT1770s but after comparing both to the MMX300 I ended up choosing them and still use them every day. Very similar sounding to the DT770 80ohm bass but the mid and treble response is more in line with the DT880 250ohm. Upper mid and high frequencies sound more revealing/detailed to me than any other Beyer I've heard. I have owned DT 770 80/250ohms, MMX300 32ohms, auditioned DT880 250ohms (too flat for me), DT990 250ohms (ouch), DT1770s (meh), yet to audition DT1990s.
Considering how I use my 770s as a general purpose and gaming headphone, I think I'd be all over the MMX300 if it wasn't 2-2.5x the price of the 770. Although I suppose you're getting a removable cable, build similar to a closed back 880 and a mic attached so yeah it's probably worth the extra. Definitely one I want to check out though for sure.
@@WheezyTech I would agree that the removeable cable and mic would not be worth the extra price over the DT 770 IF they sounded the same.. but the MMX300 is clearly superior to my ears. It does not sacrifice the things I liked in the DT 770 80ohm such as the bass and soundstage, whilst improving on the upper mid and high frequencies clarity.
Best review on YT a lot of details about why 770 pro sounds do weird to me 😎 What open headphones would u recomend for me ? I am using native instruments kontakt 2 interface and i am looking for headphones for beatmaking and also would like to listen music on them...also i dont have headphones preamp.
ive had the 80ohm verision for the past couple of years now. i use them mostly for gaming and media browsing now adays but i used to do some music before and they always worked great for it all. ive got absolutley no complains about the comfort since i can sit for hours on end using them without a problem. ill have to put up a fair warning that the cable isnt cat proof and id recommend to put them where so the cable inst in reach as my 2nd replacement cable is on the way now. however the work was really easy and quick, even for me who doesnt work with electronic too much. great headphones id cencerly recommend
Very helpful..What would be a good closed back specifically for music monitoring/reference only?? Specifically for recording of piano instrumentals in studio setting? They have very high dynamic range and note separation. Looking for something airy and crispy, but must be closed back, unfortunately. I have open backs and speakers for personal listening though. Ty
Just got these today for the first 30 mins I really didn’t like them thought about returning them butttt then I started to record some music with them and they are perfect for monitoring your audio with mixing with these things make my music super crispy
Thank you for the informative video. I have a Behringer XR18 digital mixer and its headphones output impedance/level is rated at 40 Ohm / +35db (stereo). Which DT 770 PRO should I consider? 32, 80 or 250 Ohm?
Attached cables are stupid, and the Beyer straight cable is the worst. I have a pair of DT880 (600 ohm) with the straight cable and I am selling the pair because I despise the cable so much. I also own a pair of DT990 with the coiled cable, and I prefer it for sure.
@@WheezyTech Nice, I have a tendency to break stuff, so I will leave the cable mods to you for sure. Haha. I sold the headphones this morning so they-and their stupid cable-are out of my life forever. However, I am considering picking up a pair of DT770s as I can tolerate the coiled cable much more.
Can i just plug them in my pc or do i need a audio interface if yes wich one would you recommend under 50$ ?(yes i know im a complete noob when talking about audio)
The 80 ohm will probably be fine in terms of loudness with just plugging into your PC, but the better dac/amp included in an audio interface will be beneficial when using these headphones.
The 80 ohm ones are fine off of a pc, but you should probably get an amp because pretty much everything will sound better with one and you might need it for quieter music. Btw, audio interfaces are for using microphones and things like that, I’m pretty sure you’re just talking about an amp. A decent usb powered dac/amp is all you need for something like this. I don’t have any recommendations because I haven’t bought an amp in years so idk what’s good rn, but I hope I at least gave you a decent starting point to do some research
rickert ik, I have an interface that I use for connecting my guitars to my computer and it has a headphone amp. But most people don’t need one because they just use usb or 3.5mm microphones running straight into their computer for voice chat and that’s about it. It makes more sense in that case to just get a dedicated headphone amp because it’ll usually be cheaper, and a lot of the time interface amps are pretty weak so you’d get a better amp for less money. The amp in my interface is about half as powerful as a usb powered dac/amp I have that was a little over half the price
You will definitely need a dac/amp to make the most out of it. Get a $100 dac and $100 amp (jds labs atom stack, schiit audio, etc.). On my old audioengine d1 dac/amp combo, it wasn’t enough.
i like my DT770 250 ohm, I can listen with or without EQ. Surprisingly, i was able to drive them quite well off of the apple USB-C-3.5mm adapter and my iPad pro, much better than the lightning-3.5mm on my iPhone. still not ideal, but the usb c was at least passable and i have other headphones i use with my phone when out and about. usually i listen through my Drop THX AAA789 headphone amp with an ifs zen dac v2 feeding that from its fixed output, and for me its just right. if im listening for an extended time, ill pop on an EQ that just drops the 8KHz a tad and that makes it easier on those 6+ hour sessions but otherwise, BIG fan of bayerdynamic DT 770s
hi bro, thanks for the precious informations (great video like always). i have a question please. iam a voice over, i have a "presonus studio 24c audio interface" and i wanna use this headphones for video explainer recording & documentary, so which one is better to use for this type of works, "the BEYERDYNAMIC DT 770 PRO-80ohm version" or "the 250ohm version".
Thanks for your review question I’m looking for head phones to practice my bass guitar I will be using a Palmer pocket amp would these headphones be a good buy for my practice thanks
Ik this is a late response so idk how useful this’ll be, but they’re great for that. I bought mine for monitoring my guitar and they’re awesome. That’s pretty much what they’re made for actually. They’re very comfortable so you can wear them as long as you want, and they have a nice tight clamp so you can move around in them without worrying about them falling off. The 80 ohm version is actually pretty easy to drive so you don’t need to worry about having enough power for them. I’d want something more neutral for mixing, but just for practicing and tracking they’re prefect.
@@Kpapa91 oh damn, that's long ago. I used them for gaming and stuff. I'd rather get something like Sennheisers for mixing tho. They are quite nice for gaming cuz of the exaggerated highs which essentially allow more info via sound and the good imaging for locating of that sound. Sibilance is a bit annoying on the highs when listening to music tho.
Question. i am looking for a headphone with Minimal Bleed, main use will be for tracking vocals. I have a pair of 7506 and they bleed too much. *Are the 770s better in that regard?*
1 of the big selling points of these for me was the extra long uncoiled cord, however, after a year's use, the cord has become curled in 2 separate large areas. Are there any tips to uncurl it and get it straight again. When I try to pull it straight, it just curls back into a permanent coil.
Hi I have focusrite 2i4 i do music production and basic of mixing and mastering for my personal track for decent output .. I am Planning to buy DT 770 pro ..which one u recommend , 32ohms or 80 Ohms .. if I go for 80 ohms does my focusrite will drive the actual sound ?
hey, which one did you get? i'm in the same situation rn, but thinkin' about 80ohm vs 250ohm version. Main purpose - music production. Thanks in advance!
everyone saying if you want to plug into phone or laptop for music listening go for 32 ohms but my question is ..is 32 ohm version good for MUSIC PRODUCTION?
Hello i have a question, so i am producing trap music and i am looking for beyerdynamics dt770 pro but i dont know ehat to choose should i buy 80ohm or 250ohm and my interface is scarlett 2i2 gen3 please respond thanks! 🙏🏻
You mean that some people might attribute pad wear as 'burn in' when its actually the pads changing thickness with age and affecting sound? That's a good point, I think most headphones are affected by this to some degree, but the 770's are one of those where its really quite a stark change as they wear.
You probably would have been fine with the 80 ohm. They aren’t that hard to drive, just slightly more than an average set of 32 ohm headphones meant for listening on a phone or whatever. Pretty much anything will sound better with a proper headphone amp, but it would definitely work
A very nicely done review...straight to the point...I'm planning to buy one, would you recommend these (80ohms) or some other pair for watching movies where clear vocals is the utmost requirement without having to crank up the volume too high and/ or focusing too hard? Would I require a headphone amplifier to drive these or should I go for the 32 ohm version?
@@aditya50499 if all you care about is vocals then you'll want something more mid range focused like a Sennheiser hd600 series headphone, since that's the part of the frequency spectrum where voices live
@@squidwardstesticles5914 yeah, vocals are pivotal, but, having some base would not hurt as long as it's not spoiling the mids... the 600 series would be hard to drive without a headphone amp...560S should be worth considering?
How do you equalize? Are you using a computer? Is there a way to global parametrically equalize on an android phone? I am thinking of getting this since AKG 371 is not available in my country. The DT 770 costs $200 US here compared to $150 in the US. Thanks
Nice review but the constantly changing volume of the unnecessary background music is rather annoying. Yes, I prefer the 250ohm review for the lack of music :-)
I really want to try the DT770 but unit variance and occasional build issues put me off. I've been on the market for a closed back but I can't choose, my K371, my SRH840 and my HM5 are nice but I want something else. I might get a K361 and a Porta Pro or a CAL!, still can't decide though. Great vid as usual!
Thanks. If you get a good one the 770 is great but, I don't know if theres much else in the closed back space thats worth it for sub 100-150, other than the CAL as you said.
Porta Pro is such a great headphone. A nice addition to the collection for something different. I don't think you need a CAL when you already have the 371
@@RichardoIpicyt Not sure I would recommend the M50x, as much as I have a soft spot for them. Unless you want a really portable and aggressive sounding headphone which is what they are good at. I find them too fatiguing and uncomfortable past 20 minutes. I get that some people still like them, and thats all good. They filled that portable headphone niche for a while but they've been pushed out by the rise of bluetooth headphones. They do make a good monitoring headphone, but surpassed by the K371. Its hard to recommend the M50x in 2020.
@@metal571 Yeah, I will most likely buy the Port Pro, I need a headphone for when I walk my dog/am around but need to stay aware of my surroundings, I have the KSC75 on the partsexpress headband but when there's noise outside the bass is not enough. I was thinking about the K361 because I was really interested in how they sound, I like lean and bright headphones but I also like bass and their frequency response seems interesting and fit to my taste. The K371 are a tad shouty to my ears but despite being fairly good at identifying frequencies I haven't found which parts are the culprit yet, I don't find the 650 shouty for example and I usually like upper mid forwardness. One day I'll buy the K712 too. I remember when I said my 650 were my endgame, how naive of me lol DT770 appeal me but tbh they're not portable enough for when I'm outside and when I'm home I'm more likely to use open backs. Might still get one one day.
@@RichardoIpicyt the M50x I discarded because of the frequent channel imbalance they show. I'm a sucker for separation and soundstage so and they also lack that apparently so I'd need to try them before buying them.
Should I get dt770 80Ohms or ath-msr7b? Interesting that some recommend 250ohms over 80Ohms for tamer treble but I guess the comparison between old and new pads explains it!
Dang man, you deserve more subs. Keep it up bro!
Thanks man
Fantastic review. Great job really laying out the pad wear and how it effects sound and touching on the build quality.
I adore my dt770 pro 80 ohm. There just something familiar about grabbing them for day to day stuff even though I own more technical headphones.
Exactly this. Every time I've been using another headphone, even ones far superior I put on my 770's and I feel like I've come home. I often forget I'm wearing them, I might have finished playing a game, watching a video or whatever hours ago but I never took them off and they never get uncomfortable so often I just leave them on all day.
DT770 pro 80 ohm without an amp. Will it able to be driven by mobile phones and laptop without audio interface
@@fgboii4687 sound fine without an amp may be a bit quite but i dont tend to listen to music at full volume anyway if you want a ton of volume get the 32 ohm ones they also sound great
@@blkmike1818 your meant to use an amp. It will be quite that's because they don't have power the main thing an amp dose. I'm really sorry but your comment just confused me.
I LOVE the DT770 Pro 80 Ohm without any EQ on it for listening to music. Especially Metal, even more so Gothic Metal, sounds sooo wonderful with these.
The treble really shines on the female voices and the bass impact is just as well awesome. I love it. Somehow Beyerdynamic did hit my taste to 100% how I like it so that I dont need an EQ for them at all.
DT770 pro 80 ohm without an amp. Will it able to be driven by mobile phones and laptop is it loud enough
@@fgboii4687 (might be a little late of a response, but) you can use the 80 ohm version on a smart phone or laptop, but it’ll be very quiet, even at max volume. If you plan to use these headphones for mobile use, then get 32 ohm.
old comment but same. before I switched to linux I used to use my headphones with sonarworks to 'flatten' the sound, but since then Ive just been listening without EQ. And I love it!! they sound so crisp and a wonderful stereo image
Germans would know about gothic metal lol doesnt surprize me if their headphones just happen to match their music as well.
I just got the 80 ohm version yesterday, and can say with certainty that you definitely want an amp with the 80 ohm cans. You'll have to crank up your phone/ipad volume to full max to get just a medium level of volume. It's fine, but it's not enough to please most people. They work great with my motu m4 audio interface though, so I'm definitely keeping them. Just figured I'd mention in case your on the fence about which ohm version to get. If you plan on using your phone mostly, definitely get the 32ohm version.
Yeah, I can validate this as well. My old audioengine d1 dac/amp didn’t have enough omph. Even with my somewhat new jds labs atom stack, I have to crank the knob to around the 12-1 o clock position on low gain.
Can i plug it directly on my pc though ? (In a jack)
@@niraii9070 You can, but the volume will be low with these being 80ohm's. You'll want a mini headphone amp, or get the lowwer Ohm version.
@@RADERFPV How much dbs does it give without an amp?
Audio interface is needed for 80ohm to work best
Thanks for the review. I think you may have convinced me to get a DT 770. :D
@Has Goodles hi there! Can I ask you what is your audio interface/amp to plug in your DT 770 PRO 80Oohm headphones? I have the Focusrite 2i2 second gen, and I have to turn up the volume min. 65~70% to be at the level I feel comfortable with. Thanks
Based on multiple measurements I've seen, it looks like the 250 ohm version is more v-shaped. The 80 ohm looks more balanced. Not sure why the opposite has been getting repeated for so long.
I got the 80 ohm a few years ago based on a review I saw. The bass was fantastic and quick as you describe. Not a lot of mid-bass which is great (I find stuff like the hd650 and koss porta pro to have an ear-clogged underwater sound because of too much mid bass for my ears). The soundstage, imaging, and build quality are awesome. The only issue was the "mount beyer" treble peak. I would listen to guitar solos and they would sound great until hitting that certain note. Way too loud in comparison to the rest. Either way, these are my favorite headphones.
DT770 pro 80 ohm without an amp. Will it able to be driven by mobile phones and laptop without audio interface
@@fgboii4687 If it's high end like a Samsung Galaxy or Macbook should be no problem. Mediocre laptops/phones may skimp on the headphone output so the 80 ohm may start to distort at loud volumes.
Thanks for the info! I prefer open backs (hd590) but am buying a pair of closed backs this winter and this video helped me a lot!!
Yeah regardless of how much bass each unit has anymore for the 80 ohm, the big difference is definitely that the 250 ohm not only has more treble but the air elevates in addition to the treble spike. Regardless of variation, this characteristic above 10k has been pretty consistent with 250 vs 80 in my experience. I keep around a decade old or so DT770 80 ohm because the soundstage is immense and the bass is so much fun. K371 is a much better headphone for hearing what was actually recorded
Yeah I think once I've done the cable mod on the 80 Ohm, my old 250 Ohm is being retired
Or you can try the Custom Studio which is supposed to be just a DT770 80 ohm but with an adjustable bass port and removable cable from the factory. Not sure why there isn't more hype behind it
@@metal571 think the adjustable Bass is for many a no go in terms of seriosness. The Feature has a toy charakteristic.
I have my 80 Ohm Version, since many years and it did never bother me.
Since over a year a use my Elegia as closed back, though coming back from time to time is always fun
I've wanted to try the Custom Studio for a while because of the removable cable mostly. But the price has generally put me off, I mean if its basically a 770, I'm not sure a removable cable and bass ports are worth 50% more cash. It is probably a neater solution than drilling holes in the chassis for a mod, but maybe less fun?
@@WheezyTech didn't know it was that much cash. Put the COPP and DT250/80 on your list for later though
I picked up a set of these cans years ago but, as I found out in an odd fashion, I have a larger head than average head. It took a few days of leaving the headphones stretched over the box they came in to make them comfortable to wear all day. Something to keep in mind if you find these amazing headsets a bit too tight when you first get then.
They really are bullet proof!
Nice video Bro - Thx for the feedback with the DT 770's
The background music sounds just like my Alarm, i was uncomfortable all the video 🤣
Get Up Luis!!!!!!!
Ahah
Can you shut your alarm off so that I can enjoy this video?
For people like me with not so good and trained ears, I consider a headphone with big bass (but CLEAR and FAST) and high peak around 8-10k, to detect the sibilance much more easier when I mix, a blessing.
Ordered this today - eager to “see” how it sounds!
Yes you do deserve more subs than this for sure. Subscribed. Quick question, does the 80ohm version work well on the focusrite solo you have behind you? I bought the dt700 250ohm version and the focusrite was not enough for them, they were not loud at all so I returned them. I wasn't gonna buy a headphone amp...
AKG K371 vs DT770 Pro (80ohm) - which one do you prefer for music?
Just got mine , love them , wow what quality ! I use with either a Play 3 or Play 4 DAC. Play 4 is USB-C so works with my A53 5G smartphone. The sound is incredible , after years of using plastic "gaming" headphones. Will buy a separate mic too , when needed.
Great review! I'm after these or the D990 Pro for movie watching. Which out of the 2 would you recommend?
So the 250 ohm version isn't actually more resolving, it just has more present/extended treble, correct? My curiosity has got the better of me. I love the 80 ohm version I just got, but I can't help but want to try the 250 for improved sound.
Hi, I have the 770 pro 80 ohm and I'm super curious to hear 250 ohm. Let me know how you ended up! Have your tried 250 ohm?
@@Sashik Hi!I have a 250 ohm version and it's sub frekvency sounds much better than 80 ohm version
I have the 250 Ohm And god, i love the 80 Ohm so much better, Max volume on a 250 is 75 on 80 and I have a Scarlatt 2i2 audio inter with it
I got the 250 ohm for the low bass and I'm going to be running it on the focusrite scarlett 2i2 I haven't got it yet but I hope I like it this will be my very first set of headphones and first time using a daw or any kind of music I'm building my studio up now should have all my stuff by next week can't wait to start using all these awesome gadgets got a novation launchpad and a novation impulse 25 coming with sustain and expression pedals akg microphone booms and all kinds of stuff so exited can't wait 😀
@@rockman49er was the 2i2 able to drive the 250 ohms? I have a 2i2 too and I couldnt decide between the 80 and 250 version, i will use them for recording, production, and general purpose (music, films, games etc). I have heard that the 250 needs 100% monitor volume and it might be still be quieter than wanted, is that the case?
The issue with pad degradation is intractable really. I've been using Senn HD580s (with HD600 grilles) for almost 20 years which have similar pads to the DT 770, and it's always a (welcome) surprise how much the bass improves in quantity and extension when I replace them (on the fourth set so far). I've just ordered DT 770 Pro 250's because (after all these years) I fancy a bit more bass extension occasionally (I've started to really appreciate the double-kick work that many contemporary hard rock drummers use - love the "serene swan" effect when they seem to leisurely keep time on the kit while machine-gunning intricate 1/16th-note fills/patterns with the kick). ETA >> if you read this, have you considered how the two different versions are interacting with the amp used? Have you tried multiple amps? I'm using a fairly refined Cmoy (opamp) design with a 24v (Li-ion battery) supply and split rail (IOW +12/-12V), and although it should theoretically be fine with 80 ohms I know that ultimately it has limitations in it's current headroom (because of the rail splitter chip) and should be better with the 250 ohm load which I why I went with them (but probably going to swap the cable for a straight one).
Thanks for this review Wheezy! I'm going to have to give these cans some serious consideration. Do you use these headphones for your video editing?
Great review man! Really detailed and useful, I was looking for the right version of the 770 for me and I think I'll go for the 80 Ohm. Anyway, which IEMs are you wearing? I can't recognize them.
The IEMs are the TRN v90 which I will be reviewing soon, spolier alert, they arent too bad
@@WheezyTech thanks! I have them too, actually pretty nice, I agree
Thanks for the video !
I see the boss katana in some shots, are you using the 770dt 80 ohm with this as well ? I have the 990 which I use with my katana and my helix, but I find them too bassy and a bit muddy. The rule of thumb for the helix is 12ohm x 8 > 96 ohms impedance for the headphones. Would you still recommend the 80 ohms for that usage, or rather the 250?
Interesting. What amp were you using for the testing of the 250Ohm? Considering they are tough to drive, maybe that had an impact?
I've had a different experience than you.
I bought my first 80Ohm set of DT770 Pro's in early 2009. It was my first good set of headphones, replacing my old cheap and beaten up 1990's vintage Sony MDR CD250's I inherited from my dad.
When I first got my 80ohm set in 2009, I struggled with them. I thought the highs were harsh and sibilant enough to make me cringe at times. The Head-Fi forums peeps suggested I "break them in" with pink noise. I didn't actually believe this would do anything but I gave it a try, running them for a week straight with pink noise on a loop. I'm not convinced that did anything, but over time I got used to them. It was probably a case of breaking in my ears more than it was breaking in the headphones.
That said, I bought the 80hom version specifically because I wanted to run them straight out of the 3.5mm line out on my laptop and iPod. Back then dedicated DAC's and headphone amps were - shall we say - less prevalent than they are today.
Like you, I prefer open backed headphones for music listening, (this is what I use my Sennheiser HD650's, or rather, the Massdrop HD6xx version for) but I like to keep a closed set around for when things are noisy.
These days, I have a decent DAC (Second gen multibit Schiit Bifrost 2) hooked up with balanced cables (to avoid noise) to a first gen Schiit Jotunheim. The Jotunheim has ample power, so a couple of years ago, I decided to pick up a set of 250ohm set to see how they differed.
Side by side, I find them pretty similar. The 250Ohm set is maybe a little bit more civilized, and I think I like them better, but it is really very close. (Yes, I used new pads for the comparison)
To your point, this may be up to unit variance. Who knows.
I really appreciate this man! Im stoked to get my DT770s
Yeah man, about to order mine too
Did you get the 80 or 250?
I really enjoy your videos, love the style and editing. and your studio looks very professional. i have a little question i hope you can help with, i was going to get a new desk for my office and i always really liked the setup you have, where did you get it from? can you tell me anything about it would be deeply appriciated, all the best Noel hope your future is excellent.
Awesome thanks. Most of my stuff is from Ikea. Linnmon, Alex, Kallax etc.
@@WheezyTech Thank you so much i really appriciate that! :)
Thanks for sharing your opinion, picking up an 80 ohm set to replace my dying m50x's for general use.
Pads... I have got some more pads from Aliexpress and the sounds changes dramatically. I settled on this pair of pleather pads with memory foam and gel tops. I cut some cardboard rings spacers and inserted them in the pads. I stopped sounding muffled, the highs weren't piercing anymore but the bass seems slightly rolled off but that's absolutely fine. My DT770s are still bassy enough and now they are incredibly comfortable.
Just snagged a 80ohm version for $30 tonight. When I see a deal on headphones I buy them. Nothing fancy. SONY V6, SHP9500 x5, M50X, M40X x2 and now DT770 Pro 80ohm.
You deserve more subs mate!
Would you recommend these better than the AKG K371?
Great review! How's the volume with a smartphone? I've been looking at the 32ohm version but I prefer the pads on the 80ohm, also I think the 32ohm is brighter like the 250, which I don't like the sound of. Thanks
Someone is actually doing a good reviews.
Ever since I started using sonarworks reference profile on them they sound absolutely amazing. Paired with calibrated genelec 8050s they sound very close to identical it's almost crazy.
I had many years old pads replaced very recently and I thought I bought a new headphone 😅
The difference to new ones is massive. I definitely will replace them more often now :D
I love these cans.. only problem. not detachable cable. renders the cans useless when they break, wire or the trs plug.. mini-xlr's are in most of the new cans, BD DT700 Pro X are already set up with the mini XLR detachable cable port.. (i just found your repair video... going to try it.. if I mess them up, then they are still defunct and unusable.. but lets see how steady my soldering hand is)... thank you for that modification video.. awesome.
I wish there were more resources to explain the sound of the 32 and 16 ohm version. I got the 16 ohm version as a gamble for $60 and I enjoy the sound and durability. However, nobody talks about since it was an exclusive for Guitar Center.
Do I Need a amp for the 80ohm version
I'm so torn! These, or the K371s? I'm not looking for a super neutral set. Rather, I'm looking for something with a fun signature. Something I can enjoy bassy music, and big dumb action movies with. Would you recommend these?
That is exactly what the 770 is good for
Exactly what metal just said, 770 is basically perfect for that
Awesome! Thanks so much! *presses "Purchase" button*
@@Tony-sj4sj Which version did you choose and why?
I suspect a lot of this comes down to individual variances during manufacturing and not the impedance of each model. I just replaced an 80 ohm set with tame highs that were perfect for all-day music listening (and that I should have never sold in the first place) with another 80 ohm, and these new ones are painfully bright. I've personally found the change in sound signature when replacing the pads to be extremely minor, though this could be because the adhesive failed long before the foam collapsed both times I needed to replace them.
Would you recommend the 32ohms as a guitar headphones plugged in to a Boss Katana 50 MK2? or the 80?
I need your advice! I am a family guy who have used the Sennheiser HD700 for a long time. With kids running around and noise in general i kinda want to invest in a closed back headset and this one have gotten so much appraise from everyone. But the question is, could this be good enough to replace HD700? I am not a studio guy, i like to listen to music and game with them. I am perfectly happy with the HD700's but kinda want some noise isolation. But if i sacrifice too much of sound quality im not sure, also HD700 is known for theyre great sound stage ...... not sure :o
Should I get the 80 ohms or the 250 ohm version for casual music listening with my ifi hip amplifier?
@Wheezy Tech How are you powering yours 250ohm version? What you describe sounds to me like an under power issue. If you are using that Focusrite on the background that won't be enough to drive the 250ohm up to it's maximum potential. This being said I also own the 80ohm.
Thank you for your video, but I have a question. How did you carry out the frequency response test?, all I can gather is that the two responses are relative, but not knowing what the response of the microphone that sampled the curve was, it is impossible to ascertain the correct curve.
As an old fart from a professional recording background, I thought I should point this out. From my research, I found out that the 80 Ohm version has a longer voice coil former so that the 80 Ohm version can have longer excursions (ie be louder) and still be within the magnetic flux. Difficult to explain verbally, much like trying to explain architecture by smell. Industry standard frequency response microphones are made by B&K and cost a fortune, they are used to accurately measure frequency response. Sorry I'm waffling. I love the 770 Pros 80 ohm. Before I always used the Sennheiser Professional HD 25, but have found their construction leads to problems. The plugs into their drivers fail which leads to them being terrible to use. I changed over to the Beyerdynamics and have not had any problems since. I listen at high volume and the comfort of the 770's is perfect for long and detailed listening. I would recommend the 770 Pro 80 ohm. Waffle over, and out. :-))
I've placed my order today.. ❤
I watched the video but didnt really understand one part of it. What is the main difference between the 80ohm vs the 250 ohm in a general daily use task. I just want to play story games listen to the amazing sound track and play games watch youtube etc. Should i pick the 250 ohm or 80 ohm ?
Hi Mate, You said the parts were all user changeable, Im with you, do you think the curly cable might fit on the 80ohm version?
Yeah you need to do a bit of soldering but its a simple swap, or you can do the removable cable mod ruclips.net/video/DtcbfdyHWvY/видео.html
I am looking for a smaller, cheaper but good amplifier/dac for the Beyerdynamics DT 770 pro 80 ohm. I have very little knowledge about this and can use all the help choosing the right product.
I want to use this with an LG CX television. Is it possible to connect an amplifier to this television via optical, USB or 3.5 mm cable? And would this just work well with these headphones? If so, do you have any recommendations or can you recommend some products?
Thanks in advance
I'm a music producer, i recently got these and I am super satisfied. Your amazing my guy thnx so much!
Hi! Im thinking about buying them but i dont have an amp, do you think is very necessary??
Im doubting between these and the Sony mdr-7506
@@carlosraventosprieto2065 I personally like both, both had my experiences, but I love Sony because I find most of their products really reliable. I’d go with the Sony, but just in case you should look up both, see the features and see which one you like the most.
@@marky7615 okey i take your word ;)
Thank you very much!!!
It is necessary to use it with a headphone amp or you can use only with an interface without problems to use it for mixing?
@@qwfqwf7809 Personally, its only if you want it, I can do just fine without it.
So i have both, but im hearing that the different colored pads can actually change the sound, have you heard this as well?
i have using these headphones to track and mix music they are good reference headphones that dont add much to me... I just love em 20 yrs + now
'Nice review! Would you recommend this for mixing? I am considering this or the AKG K701 or K702 because they are open back, but I´ve heard really good opinions on the 770 for mixing, besides they are closed headphones.Thank you!!
If you want an AKG i heard that the K612 Pro is better sounding than the 700 series. I would personally not use a v-shaped headphone for mixing because it is not neutral and so you will compensate for the v-shaped sound, not saying that the DT770 Pro is bad just not neutral
Mate, great review and video style! I enjoyed it a great deal :)
The 770 80ohm and the hd650 are the only two pairs of headphones that I will NEVER even consider selling. I've had both for almost a decade and I plan on taking them both to the grave with me.
Seen a few reviews of this headset,but none as good this review 👍. Will be getting the 80 ohms for gaming.
I see you have a Boss Katana and a Les Paul in the background, and I'm currently looking for a pair of headphones that can be used for practicing quietly with the guitar, with the headphones plugged into the guitar amp. What impedance would you recommend?
My experience with a ~7yr old pair of 250ohms vs a newer pair of limited edition 80ohms was that the bass was definitely slightly boosted on the 80ohms over the older 250ohms. Your investigation into pad wear seems to show that it may have had a lot to do with what I thought I was hearing and was not something I considered at the time. I would highly recommend trying the MMX300s, I originally planned to upgrade my DT770 80ohms to the DT1770s but after comparing both to the MMX300 I ended up choosing them and still use them every day. Very similar sounding to the DT770 80ohm bass but the mid and treble response is more in line with the DT880 250ohm. Upper mid and high frequencies sound more revealing/detailed to me than any other Beyer I've heard. I have owned DT 770 80/250ohms, MMX300 32ohms, auditioned DT880 250ohms (too flat for me), DT990 250ohms (ouch), DT1770s (meh), yet to audition DT1990s.
Considering how I use my 770s as a general purpose and gaming headphone, I think I'd be all over the MMX300 if it wasn't 2-2.5x the price of the 770. Although I suppose you're getting a removable cable, build similar to a closed back 880 and a mic attached so yeah it's probably worth the extra. Definitely one I want to check out though for sure.
@@WheezyTech I would agree that the removeable cable and mic would not be worth the extra price over the DT 770 IF they sounded the same.. but the MMX300 is clearly superior to my ears. It does not sacrifice the things I liked in the DT 770 80ohm such as the bass and soundstage, whilst improving on the upper mid and high frequencies clarity.
Do I need amp if I’m going to play cod or can I just put it into my monitor or pc
you need an amp
if you have a newer motherboard, you'll be fine; if not then get a budget amp
Grab a headphone amp like the fiio k3 if you have 80ohm, it will do the job very well
Best review on YT a lot of details about why 770 pro sounds do weird to me 😎
What open headphones would u recomend for me ? I am using native instruments kontakt 2 interface and i am looking for headphones for beatmaking and also would like to listen music on them...also i dont have headphones preamp.
Can I mix with this ?...
ive had the 80ohm verision for the past couple of years now. i use them mostly for gaming and media browsing now adays but i used to do some music before and they always worked great for it all. ive got absolutley no complains about the comfort since i can sit for hours on end using them without a problem. ill have to put up a fair warning that the cable isnt cat proof and id recommend to put them where so the cable inst in reach as my 2nd replacement cable is on the way now. however the work was really easy and quick, even for me who doesnt work with electronic too much. great headphones id cencerly recommend
Very helpful..What would be a good closed back specifically for music monitoring/reference only?? Specifically for recording of piano instrumentals in studio setting? They have very high dynamic range and note separation. Looking for something airy and crispy, but must be closed back, unfortunately. I have open backs and speakers for personal listening though. Ty
Just got these today for the first 30 mins I really didn’t like them thought about returning them butttt then I started to record some music with them and they are perfect for monitoring your audio with mixing with these things make my music super crispy
Which ohm is best for gaming though!!
You mean the best one for neutral flat mixing purpose is audio technica M40?
It is good that you mention the use cases
Thank you for the informative video. I have a Behringer XR18 digital mixer and its headphones output impedance/level is rated at 40 Ohm / +35db (stereo). Which DT 770 PRO should I consider? 32, 80 or 250 Ohm?
Great video👍，I’ll get the 80 ohm one
What headset would you choose for vinyl listening? These one or the Beats Studio3 Wireless?
Attached cables are stupid, and the Beyer straight cable is the worst. I have a pair of DT880 (600 ohm) with the straight cable and I am selling the pair because I despise the cable so much. I also own a pair of DT990 with the coiled cable, and I prefer it for sure.
I cable modded my 250ohm 770 with a mini xlr connector, now I can hot swap them with the K712, K371, and DT1990
@@WheezyTech Nice, I have a tendency to break stuff, so I will leave the cable mods to you for sure. Haha. I sold the headphones this morning so they-and their stupid cable-are out of my life forever. However, I am considering picking up a pair of DT770s as I can tolerate the coiled cable much more.
Which sounds better for plugging straight into boss katana?
I'm looking at either getting these, the 250 ohm or the audio technica ath mx50's using them on a boss katana MK2 which would you recommend?
Great review. Just bought my pair. Cheers
Hi, so for music mixing are the DT 990 pro's better? Thanks
Which impedance-version would you recommend for plugging into guitar amp and mixing and recording music through an interface?
How are you still below 50k sub? Your videos are amazing!
Can i just plug them in my pc or do i need a audio interface if yes wich one would you recommend under 50$ ?(yes i know im a complete noob when talking about audio)
The 80 ohm will probably be fine in terms of loudness with just plugging into your PC, but the better dac/amp included in an audio interface will be beneficial when using these headphones.
The 80 ohm ones are fine off of a pc, but you should probably get an amp because pretty much everything will sound better with one and you might need it for quieter music. Btw, audio interfaces are for using microphones and things like that, I’m pretty sure you’re just talking about an amp. A decent usb powered dac/amp is all you need for something like this. I don’t have any recommendations because I haven’t bought an amp in years so idk what’s good rn, but I hope I at least gave you a decent starting point to do some research
rickert ik, I have an interface that I use for connecting my guitars to my computer and it has a headphone amp. But most people don’t need one because they just use usb or 3.5mm microphones running straight into their computer for voice chat and that’s about it. It makes more sense in that case to just get a dedicated headphone amp because it’ll usually be cheaper, and a lot of the time interface amps are pretty weak so you’d get a better amp for less money. The amp in my interface is about half as powerful as a usb powered dac/amp I have that was a little over half the price
Did you use an amp/DAC with the 80 ohm version?
You will definitely need a dac/amp to make the most out of it. Get a $100 dac and $100 amp (jds labs atom stack, schiit audio, etc.). On my old audioengine d1 dac/amp combo, it wasn’t enough.
Goog work brother.. Thanx.!! From Amsterdam.
Would these be able to use if you were to plug in to a DJ mixer like djm900 by pioneer?
i like my DT770 250 ohm, I can listen with or without EQ. Surprisingly, i was able to drive them quite well off of the apple USB-C-3.5mm adapter and my iPad pro, much better than the lightning-3.5mm on my iPhone. still not ideal, but the usb c was at least passable and i have other headphones i use with my phone when out and about. usually i listen through my Drop THX AAA789 headphone amp with an ifs zen dac v2 feeding that from its fixed output, and for me its just right. if im listening for an extended time, ill pop on an EQ that just drops the 8KHz a tad and that makes it easier on those 6+ hour sessions but otherwise, BIG fan of bayerdynamic DT 770s
hi bro, thanks for the precious informations (great video like always). i have a question please.
iam a voice over, i have a "presonus studio 24c audio interface" and i wanna use this headphones for video explainer recording & documentary, so which one is better to use for this type of works, "the BEYERDYNAMIC DT 770 PRO-80ohm version" or "the 250ohm version".
Thanks for your review question I’m looking for head phones to practice my bass guitar I will be using a Palmer pocket amp would these headphones be a good buy for my practice thanks
Ik this is a late response so idk how useful this’ll be, but they’re great for that. I bought mine for monitoring my guitar and they’re awesome. That’s pretty much what they’re made for actually. They’re very comfortable so you can wear them as long as you want, and they have a nice tight clamp so you can move around in them without worrying about them falling off. The 80 ohm version is actually pretty easy to drive so you don’t need to worry about having enough power for them. I’d want something more neutral for mixing, but just for practicing and tracking they’re prefect.
They need a good breaking in before the sound really comes true i found after a couple weeks they sounded a bit warmer
Do you think the new cheap akg k361 sounds better than these?
😳😳😳when wheezy reviews ur headphones
What do you use your 80 ohms for? I'm debating on purchasing them over the 250 ohm for recording and mixing 🤔
@@Kpapa91 oh damn, that's long ago.
I used them for gaming and stuff.
I'd rather get something like Sennheisers for mixing tho.
They are quite nice for gaming cuz of the exaggerated highs which essentially allow more info via sound and the good imaging for locating of that sound.
Sibilance is a bit annoying on the highs when listening to music tho.
@@dontdoxme1730 arw they also good for listening music
Question. i am looking for a headphone with Minimal Bleed, main use will be for tracking vocals.
I have a pair of 7506 and they bleed too much.
*Are the 770s better in that regard?*
Which one is better for mixing; The 250 ohm or the. 80 ohm?
1 of the big selling points of these for me was the extra long uncoiled cord, however, after a year's use, the cord has become curled in 2 separate large areas. Are there any tips to uncurl it and get it straight again. When I try to pull it straight, it just curls back into a permanent coil.
Hi I have focusrite 2i4 i do music production and basic of mixing and mastering for my personal track for decent output .. I am Planning to buy DT 770 pro ..which one u recommend , 32ohms or 80 Ohms ..
if I go for 80 ohms does my focusrite will drive the actual sound ?
hey, which one did you get? i'm in the same situation rn, but thinkin' about 80ohm vs 250ohm version. Main purpose - music production. Thanks in advance!
everyone saying if you want to plug into phone or laptop for music listening go for 32 ohms but my question is ..is 32 ohm version good for MUSIC PRODUCTION?
Hello i have a question, so i am producing trap music and i am looking for beyerdynamics dt770 pro but i dont know ehat to choose should i buy 80ohm or 250ohm and my interface is scarlett 2i2 gen3 please respond thanks! 🙏🏻
Personally, I'd get the 80 Ohm
the wear might explain the "burn in period"
You mean that some people might attribute pad wear as 'burn in' when its actually the pads changing thickness with age and affecting sound? That's a good point, I think most headphones are affected by this to some degree, but the 770's are one of those where its really quite a stark change as they wear.
Anyone know how they sound without a pre-amp? Considering getting them to mix on the go
I ended up getting the 32ohm to be safe, and they're crystal clear. Never got to hear the 80ohm tho
You probably would have been fine with the 80 ohm. They aren’t that hard to drive, just slightly more than an average set of 32 ohm headphones meant for listening on a phone or whatever. Pretty much anything will sound better with a proper headphone amp, but it would definitely work
A very nicely done review...straight to the point...I'm planning to buy one, would you recommend these (80ohms) or some other pair for watching movies where clear vocals is the utmost requirement without having to crank up the volume too high and/ or focusing too hard? Would I require a headphone amplifier to drive these or should I go for the 32 ohm version?
@@aditya50499 if all you care about is vocals then you'll want something more mid range focused like a Sennheiser hd600 series headphone, since that's the part of the frequency spectrum where voices live
@@squidwardstesticles5914 yeah, vocals are pivotal, but, having some base would not hurt as long as it's not spoiling the mids... the 600 series would be hard to drive without a headphone amp...560S should be worth considering?
How do you equalize? Are you using a computer? Is there a way to global parametrically equalize on an android phone? I am thinking of getting this since AKG 371 is not available in my country. The DT 770 costs $200 US here compared to $150 in the US. Thanks
Hi, these or akg 371 non bt version? ignoring the quality control issues, only judged by sound quality.
I’ve just got one a couple of days ago and planning of buying an dac/amp under $100 dollars for it. Would a FiiO K3 work well the DT 700 Pro 80?
Nice review but the constantly changing volume of the unnecessary background music is rather annoying. Yes, I prefer the 250ohm review for the lack of music :-)
I really want to try the DT770 but unit variance and occasional build issues put me off. I've been on the market for a closed back but I can't choose, my K371, my SRH840 and my HM5 are nice but I want something else. I might get a K361 and a Porta Pro or a CAL!, still can't decide though.
Great vid as usual!
Thanks. If you get a good one the 770 is great but, I don't know if theres much else in the closed back space thats worth it for sub 100-150, other than the CAL as you said.
Porta Pro is such a great headphone. A nice addition to the collection for something different. I don't think you need a CAL when you already have the 371
@@RichardoIpicyt Not sure I would recommend the M50x, as much as I have a soft spot for them. Unless you want a really portable and aggressive sounding headphone which is what they are good at. I find them too fatiguing and uncomfortable past 20 minutes. I get that some people still like them, and thats all good. They filled that portable headphone niche for a while but they've been pushed out by the rise of bluetooth headphones. They do make a good monitoring headphone, but surpassed by the K371. Its hard to recommend the M50x in 2020.
@@metal571 Yeah, I will most likely buy the Port Pro, I need a headphone for when I walk my dog/am around but need to stay aware of my surroundings, I have the KSC75 on the partsexpress headband but when there's noise outside the bass is not enough.
I was thinking about the K361 because I was really interested in how they sound, I like lean and bright headphones but I also like bass and their frequency response seems interesting and fit to my taste. The K371 are a tad shouty to my ears but despite being fairly good at identifying frequencies I haven't found which parts are the culprit yet, I don't find the 650 shouty for example and I usually like upper mid forwardness.
One day I'll buy the K712 too. I remember when I said my 650 were my endgame, how naive of me lol
DT770 appeal me but tbh they're not portable enough for when I'm outside and when I'm home I'm more likely to use open backs. Might still get one one day.
@@RichardoIpicyt the M50x I discarded because of the frequent channel imbalance they show. I'm a sucker for separation and soundstage so and they also lack that apparently so I'd need to try them before buying them.
Should I get dt770 80Ohms or ath-msr7b? Interesting that some recommend 250ohms over 80Ohms for tamer treble but I guess the comparison between old and new pads explains it!