I personally believe if you keep your reviews honest and grounded, then you should be rewarded for all your hard work and efforts through 'affiliate ' links. Thank you very much for this review and introduction to this equipment. Much appreciated. Stay well, Sir.
Thanks. I'm still debating, as some people will have a negative opinion as soon as they see an affiliate link. I'll regardless of what I decide, I'll be very objective/fair with whatever I cover. That was the whole point of the channel in the first place - to be trustworthy
I feel you have proven yourself to be an honest and unbiased reviewer over the years. So I think you should do whatever you can for the channel to make more money because it will not change how you review products going forward. 🙌🏽❤️🙌🏽 💰💵💸
Thanks, I appreciate it! I never want my integrity to be called into question so I've always avoided anything that suggests financial benefit like that.
I bought the EPOS GSX 1000 Second Edition based on this channels reviews and I’m super happy with my purchase. Everything that was mentioned (pros and cons) were spot on with my experience with the product. There were no surprises when I received the product, because the review was not only honest, but informative. Nothing was left out.
So basically the cons are the sound signature of one of the most selling headphone of all time? They improved everything ppl complained about the classic 770 pro, just rising the price little bit. I think that is perfect.
It’s a tough question to answer. You def deserve to get kick backs. What drew me to your channel over other channels is your honesty and unbiased opinion. I never felt like you were over hyping a product just because it was sent to you or because you wanted to push people to it for the kick backs.
I see nothing wrong with getting financial support for your channel!!! Thank you for a comprehensive review! I purchased the 770 Pro X headphones late last year and loved their sound but I returned them due to the clamping force being too much for me. I've already purchased the DT 770 Pro X before watching your video and am looking forward to getting them!
Bought them IMMEDIATELY lmao. The sound profile was definitely strange at first, after some tedious EQing they sound...slightly more interesting(?) than the original 770. Build and comfort are extreme, just fantastic.
So I would have loved to have done that, but I didn’t have a standard 770 Pro to compare it to. I didn’t want to be dishonest if I had no reference. I just received a 770 Pro 80 ohm this week though. I could always do a comparison video if people think there’s enough value to it, even now.
Add Beyerdynamic DT 900 pro x to the Warzone EQ please! What you are doing here is amazing. Appreciate your time and effort. Keep up the good content/work.
Affiliate links are no problem at all. I wouldn't do marketing unless you bring out your own product in cooperation. But providing an easy link for those who would like to buy it should never be a problem. And I rather you get a cut than it all going to the brand. 😂 I just subscribed 👍
I am all for affiliate links. I don't think that they put any weight on whether you like a product or not, especially with someone I trust like you. Always appreciate your input.
I don't see a problem with having affiliate links and such as long as the review is not biased because of it. I've been watching your videos for a few months, just because I like them, but I'm not too into audio. It's great to see a neutral and objective review channel like yours, so I I think you deserve the extra income you might get from collabs like that
Nice upgrade. Especially the detachable cable. I've always been a little weary of the treble in the Beyer's though. DT1990 Pro were the best Beyer I ever heard with a Dekoni pad swap for more Bass and smoother treble. And they are built like a tank
Hey Joe all I want to say is I've been with you since the start... I know you're unbiased and you love what you do at this point my brother you deserve everything that comes your way I think us as a community we definitely trust you
Yes! This is exactly the take i have. When picking between headphones, you can EQ a little too your preference, but you can't change the physical fit, driver quality or style.
i will do my best to get my next headset soon through one of your links, im in canada so hopefully i ll manage to make it work because i would love to support the channel your reviews are incredible.
Another great review. My thoughts on sponsorships … I’m fine with them, especially if the sponsor is not from the manufacturer / provider of the item being reviewed. So, for a headphone review it can be sponsored by an DAC/AMP brand that you used to test the cans with, or by a cable brand etc. Same with DAC review, sponsor with a cable supplier.
Best and most honest audio / gadget review channel out there no BS ❤ I would like to see some. Affiliated links to help support the channel you've earned it and everyone will support you no matter what ❤🇬🇧
I see no issue in the affiliate programs. You do insert the non subjective tests and give a take on them every time so that should be enough ! you make a great job smooth videos, great content so detailed yet so simple 🤷🏻♂️ go ahead man you deserve it. on another note i wanna ask about brainwavs cushions on the nova 7p’s.. i did order the wc but didnt feel that comfy and i miss the bigger earpads that were on the artics 7p+
As long as your opinion or review are unbiased which is generally lacking nowadays in media/journalism, I think having kick back links to support the channel is fine. As it will help you review more things and help us get your point of view of those items. Also, would love for you to review DT 1990 pro and DT 900 pro X , couldn’t find it on the channel. I love the comfort of this brand, would like your take on sound quality on those.
1990 Pro review is coming soon!! I only recently received beyerdynamic producs, so this is just the beginning! Once I'm done with all the units I received, I'll move on to the 900 Pro X after that!
You'll love certain things about it for sure! It just comes down to listening preference. Compared to the TYGR, these have much more impactful and dynamic bass. Vocals and mid range will sound recessed/stepped back compared to the TYGR, and treble will be more forward. I'd love to see/hear your thoughts on this after you get it and compare! Just drop a new comment when you can!
@@GadgetryTech ok they came in today and I really like them… I like them better than the TYGR 300R when I put them into the zen dac v2 with bass boost turned on. In game on the EPOS GSX 1000 with 7.1 turned on felt immersive. They are really comfortable, obviously not as comfortable as TYGR. Upper treble didn’t bother me sooo I guess I really like the house sound of Beyerdynamic
Based on your consistent provision of honest reviews over time, it's evident that incorporating affiliate links could be beneficial for the channel. However, I suggest including non-affiliate links alongside them, allowing viewers to make purchases without any associated kickbacks. As demonstrated in this video, presenting both options fosters transparency and ensures unbiased recommendations. I concur with your stance on avoiding sponsored content, as it may compromise the integrity of your opinions by introducing external influences aimed at swaying reviewer perspectives.
Sorry, but you keep recommending open backs as an option for closed backs. That's like comparing a bear and a tiger. They are two different animals. An HD6XX and the DT770 are as different as you at a Biden rally and me working on my farm. We might be doing something but only one of us is getting something accomplished.
I agree with others - a tough question! I trust your reviews, but I can't tell whether not having affiliate links in the description helped build that trust for me. It certainly didn't hurt and there's a reason you chose not to do that in the past. I'll watch either way though (because you already have my trust), and would use your affiliate links. I'm also a huge Pats fan. Shame on Kraft for trying to turn Belichick into a villain.
Just want to give my input here on pad swapping, I have these same headphones hooked up through an interface with the Wicked Kushionz Freezer pads, it does change the sound quality slightly but not much, they get slightly more bass heavy but not too much, I find the change pleasant as I do like heavy bass but it's not distorting the sound in any way.
I have the DT 770 Pro X LE but how do they compare to the new MMX 300 Pro ? AFAIK they both use the same Stellar.45 driver and they may be tuned differently but effectively..are they the same in terms of sound quality, imaging and soundstage? EQ also exists so do they really differ in the end? I'd be really interested in your opinion.
I don't mind affiliate links, I think I can get a good enough feeling of whether someone is honest in their reviews after watching a couple generally, in more particularly in your case, not being a new viewer, no problem at all.
Hi, many thanks for your review. It's really great when you totally agree with a reviewers findings. Spot on about the high end which I do find a bit crispy. I'm not sure about the science about 'burning in' speakers,headphones etc or whether that is just us getting used to the sound. My DD70 Pro X's are so new that they are almost out of the box, so question is, how long have you been listening to them and could I expect my pair to mellow with use? I have and old pair of ATH-M70x (what is it with the X's?) and did'nt like them out of the box and now they are the best sounding closed headphones I have ever owned apart from the fact that they keep breaking structurally.For background I'm a 61 year old who's hearing has been nuked both at work and for pleasure but the strident high end is not that pleasing and adds nothing.........I suppose I'll have to wait and see?
Is it worth getting the mmx300 pro over this? Not too bothered about the mic but I think the MMX300 pro is tuned slightly different for gaming? Any opinions would be really appreciated 👍
I currently ordered the Schiit Gunnr after watching your review, im currently looking at the beyerdynamic 770 pro, FiiO Ft1 and the audeze maxwell. In your opinion sir, which would be the best bang for the back for open world games?
Hey gadgetry, I see turtle beach is releasing a wireless open back headset next month called the atlas air wireless. I’m interested in seeing your thoughts on release, any plans for it?
I would say personally, it would not matter to me if you have sponsored video as I have been a long-time follower of this channel, and I trust your opinion. However, I think in terms of the longevity of the channel, it would be easier for new followers to know that the specific video that is reviewing certain products is not being sponsored by the same company.
I've been listening to these for a while today, and I think the only thing that I don't think I'm of the same opinion about is that I don't find these to be unresolving. I'm listening on an SMSL SU-8S/SH-8S stack, and I'm finding the detail and resolution to be really good. Better than I remember my DT 990 Pro being, but I don't have it here to compare. Detail-wise, it feels to me like it's competing pretty well with things I have in the $200-$300 range (HD6XX and Fiio FT3). I had another cheap closed back, the R7-DX from Hifiman that I think has maybe a little better soundstage, but the DT770 Pro X has better extension on the bass, and it's nice and clean. Punch Brothers version of "Another New World" at 2:45 when the bass plays a long drawn out note, it's nice and clean on the Beyerdynamic. Drivers seem pretty fast to me. Anyway, thanks for another detailed review. Have you considered including your source(s) on the videos? Might give a little perspective if there are differing opinions on the subjective side of things...
Dear GadgetryTech, I know you reviewed them both...I have a question about the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition and the Audeze Maxwell. Which would you recommend for music, gaming and talking? (yes if it will be the Beyer, I will have to buy a seperate mic.) Wired or wireless is not an issue, I am just wondering which would be nicer/better. Hope to hear from you
I think you further monetizing your channel would be a good thing given your track record of honesty. I have no concerns about the quality and accuracy of your work going forward as I know your integrity is not for sale.
Amazing review as always! I tried the regular DT 770 Pro about a year ago and have never initiated an Amazon return so quickly in my life lol. Like you said, I know sound is subjective and everyone hears things differently, but the treble was sooo sharp I honestly couldn't believe people enjoy using headphones with that kind of sound signature.
Absolute same case with the DT770 pro, it sounded like shit to me and i returned them within 24 hours, but these 770 pro X blown me away, better than closed back sundaras and really close to the maxwells. Really surprised by them.
can something like dt 770 pro x LE be compared with logitech g pro x2 ? i cant decide what to buy for gaming/ work and music... i like bass and i m also kinda annoyed from very high bright treble
The treble on the DT 1990 can be fixed in two ways either a passive filter from diyaudioheaven (solderdude) or EQ at 7700Hz, -7dB, Q 3.0 (or Q 3.5) (with Analytical pads and ymmv you might want less reduction or more). I also find the Balanced pads too boomy for my taste, but some people might like it that way as well. I also own the DT 770 Pro 80Ohm, used it for a long time and next to the DT 1990 it barely gets playtime. But still that headphone is like an old friend and one of the best closed-backs (if not the best - some people probably prefer K361 or K371), and this anniversary edition looks nice as well - shares more similarities in tuning with the DT 770 line than the DT 700 Pro X (even though it uses the same driver as the 700 Pro X).
@@GadgetryTech Waiting for your thoughts on the DT 1990, from the comparison with the DT 770 Pro X I can guess that it’s going to be mostly positive except for the treble (which fortunately can be fixed).
Perhaps you can do an in video ad sponsor commercial instead youll likely earn more revenue then affiliate links and you could also use sponsors that are not related to audio but could possibly crossover into the market.
I think it is ok to have links, once you said that you do receive some money back to support the channel, just to not create any misunderstanding to some people.
I'm too sensitive in the high range, the edition xs fatigued me in the 8k-12k region I had to pull 3 db out to really listen to them. Unfortunate that they didn't consider the old dt770 pro drivers with the removable cable and updated materials. I like the old dt770 pro 80 ohms I have, I'm going to get a removable cable mod done to the tune of the original cost I paid for the cans themselves and to me that's more worth it than buying the newer pair.
Yep, I also prefer the old drivers by far. The new Pro X drivers are very efficient and easy to get loud. But they just don't sound as nice. I was also annoyed by the cable noise of the DT 770 Pro X LE that was transferred to the earcup because of the stiff, inflexible connection. I prefer the fixed cable that's properly acoustically decoupled. Good luck with the cable mod, I hope it doesn't cause any problems like this!
@@VeitLehmann in my experience with cables, it has a lot to do with the material on the cable as to whether it will have microphonic issues. Specifically cables with very course braiding will be very loud, but softer braiding is generally very silent. Also in my case, the rubber exterior of my dt770 cable has split and is barely hanging on so the cable mod is a way of saving the headphones
@@devontoner Ah, I see, makes sense. I guess there are multiple factors, because I recently compared the DT 770 Pro with the DT 700 Pro X and the DT 770 Pro X LE. The cables material is the same between those, but the DT 770 Pro had the least cable noise, the DT 770 Pro X LE had the most, and the DT 700 Pro X was somewhere in-between. So I guess the earcups play an important role as well. Did you do the mod already?
@@VeitLehmann not yet, I had a few other projects, I'm planning to do it soon. I have 2 pairs of headphones with 3.5mm ear cup connections so that's what I'm going to use so I can reuse a known good cable. As far as BD I only have the dt770 pro 80 ohm so I'm pretty in the dark of all the variations or what to compare too, I'm more of a planar fan, the dt770s were a work headphone for me before I bought a pair of focal elegias
I don’t think affiliate links are a bad thing if you keep your current review style. It’s very in depth, there’s the objective measurements that you can’t argue with, and then there’s your subjective opinion on it. Every headphone will have pros and cons. If your review covers both and I deem the product still worth purchasing, I don’t see why it would be a bad thing for you to get a tiny bit from that. That said, have you seen the Turtle Beach open back headphones they just announced? Very curious to see how those will turn out.
ALRIGHT PEOPLE! ... I will write it down because everyone only sees the rainbows and puppies with this 770 PRO X, and no one is telling the truth about sound quality. I am a big fun of the old DT 770 Pro (especially the 250 ohm) and had high expectations with this "Limited Edition". I waited like 3-4 months then finally got released in my country. I bought one (on my own money). In short, I didn't like it and will return it... The sound is more closer to the DT 700 X with added spark on the top + a big boom on the low end. For a studio monitoring headphone this sounds way to bass heavy to me. The mid range and the vocals sound weird and resonating/ringing, while they are also distant and artificial. I tried loads of tracks, but after a few minutes I just put it down... I didn't enjoy listening music on it at all. You won't find the engaging and wide sound of the original DT 770 Pro here. Sometimes the sound even felt boxy and unnatural with much emphasis on the bass. To my ears these headphones just too different from the original, and do not understand how Beyerdynamic could name these as "DT 770 PROs". It is not a bad headphone by any means, but it has nothing to do with the originals. This is an EQ-ed DT 700 X with a more comfortable design. By the way, I disliked the DT 700 X too because that was way to flat and uncomfortable. After trying a few recent Beyers I realized that,the new Stellar 45 driver has no soul in it. Boooring as heck and It's hard to imagine anyone enjoying it for a long term. The DT 770 PRO X sound signature in pair with similar headphones in the same price range so it won't stand out from the crowd. I would even say that the sound tuning is close to the Audio Technica M50x, so pretty much V shaped with scooped mids. You can decide if that's a positive or negative thing... I am deeply disappointed... I do like the classy design and build quality, but this won't be my favorite and I will reach back to the old one, 80 or 250 ohms versions. This situation feels like a classic movie remake with a different actors for the today"s "standards". Not always necessary or true to the original. The new Stellar 45 driver is powerful that's the only good thing with it. Personally I don't like the direction that Beyer took with these new line of "studio" headphones. 😢
So long as you stay true to your opinion, there’s nothing wrong with working with sponsors/companies looking for honest reviews. The bills have to be paid somehow.
If it helps, I have a Moondrop Venus with a Xduoo TA-22 tube DAC/AMP and it definitely tames sibilance and makes them warmer. I use a matched pair of Electro Harmonix tubes.
The Maxwell has DSP so the tonality/frequency response is more agreeable out of the box. The DT 770 Pro X LE is better built and much more comfortable though.
Hey, so I have the DT770 Pro 80ohms that I bought back in 2018, it's still good, but I have a question. Paired with an iFi Zen DAC, for gaming, the volume just isn't loud enough at low gain, and when I hit the high gain button, it distorts when I up the dial. It sounds okay on Spotify because it's louder, but in games it's much quieter, and the distortion is killing the experience that I'm rather sticking with my Kiwi Ears Melody and EM6l IEMs. Will an amp sort the issue or could there be something wrong with the headphones? To be clear, distortion only happens in high gain mode max volume on my Zen DAC and not on low gain.
I have exactly the same headphones as you. What you have to remember is the DT770 are single ended and the 80ohm has a sensitivity of 96db which makes them quite hard to drive. It sounds like your amplifier doesn't have enough power to drive them to their full potential. Options would be a more power amplifier or have your DT770's converted to balanced 🙏
I have been using these for the last week, I find them uncomfortable, from the ear cups being too large squeezing on my face and the top headband also pushing too much into the scalp. More importantly though I just can't get use to the faraway sound and the lost details in the mids.
Wish someone compared the sony mv1 vs senn 490 pro vs 660s2 vs aune ar5000 & also this i know this is half the price & closed but i still wanted just in general comparison of comparableish studio designs & which is great for audiophile listening & not studio work?
It is true that measurements between rigs differ.. it is also true, if you take unit variation out of the equation, that if you want to tune one product to sound like another, both should have been measured on the same rig (i do that to have an idea for my next purchase decision and i start from products that are close in FR to begin with... but at the same time when you go on two squig.links and when landing you see the Harman OE 2018 target, you kind of expect a similar measurement up to 8-9000 hz (at least).. I am talking about a question I posed to you on Resolve's live stream about different measurement between yours and another guy's for the JT1... turned out he was using a different rig but still featured H2018 on his squig.. I have since seen another measurement on a rig that can "support" the H2018 and it is similar to yours...
You should do what feels right to you. You're never going to please everyone no matter what. What are some other tech channels that you respect doing? I wouldn't question your integrity either way.
The DT 770 Pro sound much more natural and enjoyable to me. The DT 770 Pro X LE (and also the DT 700 Pro X) are easier to drive and get louder. But I can easily get the classic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms loud enough, and their better sound, tried and tested design, and cheaper price made the decision easy for me. Quick characteristics of the three: - DT 770 Pro X LE: V-shaped, recessed mids, very sharp treble, strong sub-bass, lacks a bit in upper bass, pretty airy and open character - DT 700 Pro X: Balanced frequency-response, great mids, lacks a bit in upper bass and upper treble, can still sound sharp in lower/mid treble, a little closed-in and congested - DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms (no idea how different they are compared to 32 and 250 Ohms): Balanced frequency-response with slight elevations in bass and treble, still present and detailed mids, not recessed, occasionally a little sharp treble (much less then the DT 770 Pro X LE, and if it does, it's in a less annoying region further up), better upper treble extension/air than both Pro X models, very airy and open character for a closed-back
@@I.AMWallzy I’ve kind of been all over for gaming. Partly due to testing so much stuff out. The A50X and Epos H6 Pro get used a lot. Runner ups are the Nova Pro Wireless and Maxwell
@GadgetryTech yea I have nova pro x wired with wicked cushions! Absolutely love them but always keen to try others. Potentially even iems. Anything worth changing to? Or just stick with the nova's you think? I've already had a50 4th gen
Thanks so much for confirming my suspicions on these cans. I've been using a pair of the standard DT770 Pro 80ohms for over 10 years and decided to pre order these after the NAMM reveal. When they got here and I A/B'd them to my old pair, I absolutely HATED the siblance these produced. I got ear fatigue incredibly quickly, to the point where I thought something was wrong with these given the claim by Beyerdynamic that these were supposed to be tuned just like the standard DT770 Pros. My wife also ordered a pair and I checked hers to confirm it wasnt just a QC issue. Unfortunate because they are so physically comfortable, but when the EQ curve is so drastic on the highs that it creates uncomfortable siblance issues with songs I KNOW didnt have that and makes cymbals downright painful to listen to in any modern rock or metal, I opted to send them back within a day and go for the Sennheiser HD490 Pros.
@@zerotactix5739 I do use them for gaming, as well as recording and mixing. I have a Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 that has plenty on tap to drive these, I've never felt I needed to utilize a secondary amp in front of that audio interface.
A bit of an unfair vs game there though… “I didn’t like these 170$ cans so I spend 450$ on a pair of Sennheiser”, I wonder what made you think that it was worth taking that jump once you found the treble too tough on the Beyerdynamics.
I personally believe if you keep your reviews honest and grounded, then you should be rewarded for all your hard work and efforts through 'affiliate ' links. Thank you very much for this review and introduction to this equipment. Much appreciated. Stay well, Sir.
Thanks Simon.
By all means, do whatever keeps the boat flowing as long as the input stays objective.
And the output stays inobjective
Thanks. I'm still debating, as some people will have a negative opinion as soon as they see an affiliate link. I'll regardless of what I decide, I'll be very objective/fair with whatever I cover. That was the whole point of the channel in the first place - to be trustworthy
I feel you have proven yourself to be an honest and unbiased reviewer over the years. So I think you should do whatever you can for the channel to make more money because it will not change how you review products going forward.
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Thanks, I appreciate it! I never want my integrity to be called into question so I've always avoided anything that suggests financial benefit like that.
I bought the EPOS GSX 1000 Second Edition based on this channels reviews and I’m super happy with my purchase. Everything that was mentioned (pros and cons) were spot on with my experience with the product. There were no surprises when I received the product, because the review was not only honest, but informative. Nothing was left out.
So basically the cons are the sound signature of one of the most selling headphone of all time? They improved everything ppl complained about the classic 770 pro, just rising the price little bit. I think that is perfect.
You have the trust of your community. Don't change how you review and your community will support your sponsored material.
It’s a tough question to answer. You def deserve to get kick backs. What drew me to your channel over other channels is your honesty and unbiased opinion. I never felt like you were over hyping a product just because it was sent to you or because you wanted to push people to it for the kick backs.
Thanks! Links or not, I'll always keep the integrity side! Hey I grew up rooting for the pats! Boston boy originally haha
I see nothing wrong with getting financial support for your channel!!! Thank you for a comprehensive review! I purchased the 770 Pro X headphones late last year and loved their sound but I returned them due to the clamping force being too much for me. I've already purchased the DT 770 Pro X before watching your video and am looking forward to getting them!
These are definitely better for me, than my previous 80 Ohm variant. Mine has almost the same frequency response, that you measured. :)
Bought them IMMEDIATELY lmao. The sound profile was definitely strange at first, after some tedious EQing they sound...slightly more interesting(?) than the original 770. Build and comfort are extreme, just fantastic.
Having Dt 770 Pro - Amazing sound Quality as a non Studio-User
Don’t get it why reviewers not compare them to standard 770 pro?That what most users want to see.
Exactly! I post a comment on that also. It would be more informative and give better image of LE version.
Facts
I agree.
True as fuck
So I would have loved to have done that, but I didn’t have a standard 770 Pro to compare it to. I didn’t want to be dishonest if I had no reference. I just received a 770 Pro 80 ohm this week though. I could always do a comparison video if people think there’s enough value to it, even now.
Add Beyerdynamic DT 900 pro x to the Warzone EQ please! What you are doing here is amazing. Appreciate your time and effort. Keep up the good content/work.
What is warzone eq?
@@MrBono303 watch @gadgetrytech 's vid on best warzone audio. He explains it better than I ever could.
Affiliate links are no problem at all. I wouldn't do marketing unless you bring out your own product in cooperation. But providing an easy link for those who would like to buy it should never be a problem. And I rather you get a cut than it all going to the brand. 😂
I just subscribed 👍
I am all for affiliate links. I don't think that they put any weight on whether you like a product or not, especially with someone I trust like you. Always appreciate your input.
I don't see a problem with having affiliate links and such as long as the review is not biased because of it. I've been watching your videos for a few months, just because I like them, but I'm not too into audio. It's great to see a neutral and objective review channel like yours, so I I think you deserve the extra income you might get from collabs like that
Nice upgrade. Especially the detachable cable. I've always been a little weary of the treble in the Beyer's though. DT1990 Pro were the best Beyer I ever heard with a Dekoni pad swap for more Bass and smoother treble. And they are built like a tank
Hey Joe all I want to say is I've been with you since the start... I know you're unbiased and you love what you do at this point my brother you deserve everything that comes your way I think us as a community we definitely trust you
Yes! This is exactly the take i have. When picking between headphones, you can EQ a little too your preference, but you can't change the physical fit, driver quality or style.
I'm loving these uploads Joe, affiliate links are fine.You got to eat.Just stay real & be yourself,honest & genuine that's why people love you,peace.
i will do my best to get my next headset soon through one of your links, im in canada so hopefully i ll manage to make it work because i would love to support the channel your reviews are incredible.
Another great review. My thoughts on sponsorships … I’m fine with them, especially if the sponsor is not from the manufacturer / provider of the item being reviewed. So, for a headphone review it can be sponsored by an DAC/AMP brand that you used to test the cans with, or by a cable brand etc. Same with DAC review, sponsor with a cable supplier.
TYGR is tuned really well. For tonality DT 900 Pro X is the king, but overall I'd pick the TYGR for better resolution and I'd EQ it a bit.
Best and most honest audio / gadget review channel out there no BS ❤
I would like to see some. Affiliated links to help support the channel you've earned it and everyone will support you no matter what
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I see no issue in the affiliate programs. You do insert the non subjective tests and give a take on them every time so that should be enough ! you make a great job smooth videos, great content so detailed yet so simple 🤷🏻♂️ go ahead man you deserve it. on another note i wanna ask about brainwavs cushions on the nova 7p’s.. i did order the wc but didnt feel that comfy and i miss the bigger earpads that were on the artics 7p+
I'm subbed and fully endorse use of affiliate links and sponsored videos.
As long as your opinion or review are unbiased which is generally lacking nowadays in media/journalism, I think having kick back links to support the channel is fine. As it will help you review more things and help us get your point of view of those items.
Also, would love for you to review DT 1990 pro and DT 900 pro X , couldn’t find it on the channel. I love the comfort of this brand, would like your take on sound quality on those.
1990 Pro review is coming soon!! I only recently received beyerdynamic producs, so this is just the beginning! Once I'm done with all the units I received, I'll move on to the 900 Pro X after that!
I ordered this without any of the reviews so I hope I like it. I got the tyger 300r and I really like it.
You'll love certain things about it for sure! It just comes down to listening preference. Compared to the TYGR, these have much more impactful and dynamic bass. Vocals and mid range will sound recessed/stepped back compared to the TYGR, and treble will be more forward. I'd love to see/hear your thoughts on this after you get it and compare! Just drop a new comment when you can!
@@GadgetryTech will do! If I find the treble to be little much I may ask for you to post your EQ in the discord
@@GadgetryTech ok they came in today and I really like them… I like them better than the TYGR 300R when I put them into the zen dac v2 with bass boost turned on. In game on the EPOS GSX 1000 with 7.1 turned on felt immersive. They are really comfortable, obviously not as comfortable as TYGR. Upper treble didn’t bother me sooo I guess I really like the house sound of Beyerdynamic
ya dude, keep it real. I chose my nova pros wireless after watching your reviews. informative
Based on your consistent provision of honest reviews over time, it's evident that incorporating affiliate links could be beneficial for the channel. However, I suggest including non-affiliate links alongside them, allowing viewers to make purchases without any associated kickbacks. As demonstrated in this video, presenting both options fosters transparency and ensures unbiased recommendations. I concur with your stance on avoiding sponsored content, as it may compromise the integrity of your opinions by introducing external influences aimed at swaying reviewer perspectives.
Sorry, but you keep recommending open backs as an option for closed backs. That's like comparing a bear and a tiger. They are two different animals. An HD6XX and the DT770 are as different as you at a Biden rally and me working on my farm. We might be doing something but only one of us is getting something accomplished.
bro said he prefers the 3 times more expensive headphones too.. like duh more expensive headphones are going to be better.
Literally the most perfect headphone out of the whole DT series imho! Peak Beyer right here!
I agree with others - a tough question! I trust your reviews, but I can't tell whether not having affiliate links in the description helped build that trust for me. It certainly didn't hurt and there's a reason you chose not to do that in the past. I'll watch either way though (because you already have my trust), and would use your affiliate links.
I'm also a huge Pats fan. Shame on Kraft for trying to turn Belichick into a villain.
Just want to give my input here on pad swapping, I have these same headphones hooked up through an interface with the Wicked Kushionz Freezer pads, it does change the sound quality slightly but not much, they get slightly more bass heavy but not too much, I find the change pleasant as I do like heavy bass but it's not distorting the sound in any way.
Get the bag! Nobody should question your integrity at this point.
I have the DT 770 Pro X LE but how do they compare to the new MMX 300 Pro ? AFAIK they both use the same Stellar.45 driver and they may be tuned differently but effectively..are they the same in terms of sound quality, imaging and soundstage? EQ also exists so do they really differ in the end? I'd be really interested in your opinion.
I don't mind affiliate links, I think I can get a good enough feeling of whether someone is honest in their reviews after watching a couple generally, in more particularly in your case, not being a new viewer, no problem at all.
Hi, many thanks for your review. It's really great when you totally agree with a reviewers findings. Spot on about the high end which I do find a bit crispy. I'm not sure about the science about 'burning in' speakers,headphones etc or whether that is just us getting used to the sound. My DD70 Pro X's are so new that they are almost out of the box, so question is, how long have you been listening to them and could I expect my pair to mellow with use? I have and old pair of ATH-M70x (what is it with the X's?) and did'nt like them out of the box and now they are the best sounding closed headphones I have ever owned apart from the fact that they keep breaking structurally.For background I'm a 61 year old who's hearing has been nuked both at work and for pleasure but the strident high end is not that pleasing and adds nothing.........I suppose I'll have to wait and see?
Is it worth getting the mmx300 pro over this? Not too bothered about the mic but I think the MMX300 pro is tuned slightly different for gaming? Any opinions would be really appreciated 👍
What do you think is better for mixing the pro x limited edition or the standard model?
I currently ordered the Schiit Gunnr after watching your review, im currently looking at the beyerdynamic 770 pro, FiiO Ft1 and the audeze maxwell. In your opinion sir, which would be the best bang for the back for open world games?
Hey gadgetry, I see turtle beach is releasing a wireless open back headset next month called the atlas air wireless. I’m interested in seeing your thoughts on release, any plans for it?
I will be covering ALL new TB products!
I would say personally, it would not matter to me if you have sponsored video as I have been a long-time follower of this channel, and I trust your opinion. However, I think in terms of the longevity of the channel, it would be easier for new followers to know that the specific video that is reviewing certain products is not being sponsored by the same company.
I've been listening to these for a while today, and I think the only thing that I don't think I'm of the same opinion about is that I don't find these to be unresolving. I'm listening on an SMSL SU-8S/SH-8S stack, and I'm finding the detail and resolution to be really good. Better than I remember my DT 990 Pro being, but I don't have it here to compare. Detail-wise, it feels to me like it's competing pretty well with things I have in the $200-$300 range (HD6XX and Fiio FT3). I had another cheap closed back, the R7-DX from Hifiman that I think has maybe a little better soundstage, but the DT770 Pro X has better extension on the bass, and it's nice and clean. Punch Brothers version of "Another New World" at 2:45 when the bass plays a long drawn out note, it's nice and clean on the Beyerdynamic. Drivers seem pretty fast to me.
Anyway, thanks for another detailed review. Have you considered including your source(s) on the videos? Might give a little perspective if there are differing opinions on the subjective side of things...
How does this compare to the DT 1770 pro mkii for gaming?
Dear GadgetryTech, I know you reviewed them both...I have a question about the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition and the Audeze Maxwell. Which would you recommend for music, gaming and talking? (yes if it will be the Beyer, I will have to buy a seperate mic.)
Wired or wireless is not an issue, I am just wondering which would be nicer/better.
Hope to hear from you
I think you further monetizing your channel would be a good thing given your track record of honesty. I have no concerns about the quality and accuracy of your work going forward as I know your integrity is not for sale.
affiliate links are good when it doesnt affect the review in any way
Is the 770 Pro X good for gaming or is there something better?
Amazing review as always! I tried the regular DT 770 Pro about a year ago and have never initiated an Amazon return so quickly in my life lol. Like you said, I know sound is subjective and everyone hears things differently, but the treble was sooo sharp I honestly couldn't believe people enjoy using headphones with that kind of sound signature.
Absolute same case with the DT770 pro, it sounded like shit to me and i returned them within 24 hours, but these 770 pro X blown me away, better than closed back sundaras and really close to the maxwells. Really surprised by them.
get your bag bro we wanna see you win
and how good are they for fps games like rainbow six siege and valorant?
first 1 minute of the video = Subscribed ! 💪🏻🤘🏻🔥
can something like dt 770 pro x LE be compared with logitech g pro x2 ? i cant decide what to buy for gaming/ work and music... i like bass and i m also kinda annoyed from very high bright treble
thank you especially for the measurement.
Hey Joe, if we have different IEMs not listed on the Warzone tuning page, what would you recommend we use for an EQ in Equalizer APO?
Perfect headset for me 😊 i got them for 150 usd 😊
Have you used the Pulse Elites recently since your review? Do you think they will be apart of your FPS headset list later this year?
The treble on the DT 1990 can be fixed in two ways either a passive filter from diyaudioheaven (solderdude) or EQ at 7700Hz, -7dB, Q 3.0 (or Q 3.5) (with Analytical pads and ymmv you might want less reduction or more). I also find the Balanced pads too boomy for my taste, but some people might like it that way as well.
I also own the DT 770 Pro 80Ohm, used it for a long time and next to the DT 1990 it barely gets playtime. But still that headphone is like an old friend and one of the best closed-backs (if not the best - some people probably prefer K361 or K371), and this anniversary edition looks nice as well - shares more similarities in tuning with the DT 770 line than the DT 700 Pro X (even though it uses the same driver as the 700 Pro X).
Thanks so much for sharing that info! I'm sure it will help others here as well!
@@GadgetryTech Waiting for your thoughts on the DT 1990, from the comparison with the DT 770 Pro X I can guess that it’s going to be mostly positive except for the treble (which fortunately can be fixed).
Perhaps you can do an in video ad sponsor commercial instead youll likely earn more revenue then affiliate links and you could also use sponsors that are not related to audio but could possibly crossover into the market.
Which one is good for FPS like COD?
I think it is ok to have links, once you said that you do receive some money back to support the channel, just to not create any misunderstanding to some people.
I'm too sensitive in the high range, the edition xs fatigued me in the 8k-12k region I had to pull 3 db out to really listen to them. Unfortunate that they didn't consider the old dt770 pro drivers with the removable cable and updated materials. I like the old dt770 pro 80 ohms I have, I'm going to get a removable cable mod done to the tune of the original cost I paid for the cans themselves and to me that's more worth it than buying the newer pair.
Yep, I also prefer the old drivers by far. The new Pro X drivers are very efficient and easy to get loud. But they just don't sound as nice. I was also annoyed by the cable noise of the DT 770 Pro X LE that was transferred to the earcup because of the stiff, inflexible connection. I prefer the fixed cable that's properly acoustically decoupled. Good luck with the cable mod, I hope it doesn't cause any problems like this!
@@VeitLehmann in my experience with cables, it has a lot to do with the material on the cable as to whether it will have microphonic issues. Specifically cables with very course braiding will be very loud, but softer braiding is generally very silent.
Also in my case, the rubber exterior of my dt770 cable has split and is barely hanging on so the cable mod is a way of saving the headphones
@@devontoner Ah, I see, makes sense. I guess there are multiple factors, because I recently compared the DT 770 Pro with the DT 700 Pro X and the DT 770 Pro X LE. The cables material is the same between those, but the DT 770 Pro had the least cable noise, the DT 770 Pro X LE had the most, and the DT 700 Pro X was somewhere in-between. So I guess the earcups play an important role as well. Did you do the mod already?
@@VeitLehmann not yet, I had a few other projects, I'm planning to do it soon. I have 2 pairs of headphones with 3.5mm ear cup connections so that's what I'm going to use so I can reuse a known good cable. As far as BD I only have the dt770 pro 80 ohm so I'm pretty in the dark of all the variations or what to compare too, I'm more of a planar fan, the dt770s were a work headphone for me before I bought a pair of focal elegias
I don’t think affiliate links are a bad thing if you keep your current review style. It’s very in depth, there’s the objective measurements that you can’t argue with, and then there’s your subjective opinion on it. Every headphone will have pros and cons. If your review covers both and I deem the product still worth purchasing, I don’t see why it would be a bad thing for you to get a tiny bit from that.
That said, have you seen the Turtle Beach open back headphones they just announced? Very curious to see how those will turn out.
ALRIGHT PEOPLE! ... I will write it down because everyone only sees the rainbows and puppies with this 770 PRO X, and no one is telling the truth about sound quality.
I am a big fun of the old DT 770 Pro (especially the 250 ohm) and had high expectations with this "Limited Edition". I waited like 3-4 months then finally got released in my country. I bought one (on my own money).
In short, I didn't like it and will return it...
The sound is more closer to the DT 700 X with added spark on the top + a big boom on the low end. For a studio monitoring headphone this sounds way to bass heavy to me. The mid range and the vocals sound weird and resonating/ringing, while they are also distant and artificial. I tried loads of tracks, but after a few minutes I just put it down... I didn't enjoy listening music on it at all.
You won't find the engaging and wide sound of the original DT 770 Pro here. Sometimes the sound even felt boxy and unnatural with much emphasis on the bass.
To my ears these headphones just too different from the original, and do not understand how Beyerdynamic could name these as "DT 770 PROs".
It is not a bad headphone by any means, but it has nothing to do with the originals.
This is an EQ-ed DT 700 X with a more comfortable design. By the way, I disliked the DT 700 X too because that was way to flat and uncomfortable.
After trying a few recent Beyers I realized that,the new Stellar 45 driver has no soul in it. Boooring as heck and It's hard to imagine anyone enjoying it for a long term.
The DT 770 PRO X sound signature in pair with similar headphones in the same price range so it won't stand out from the crowd. I would even say that the sound tuning is close to the Audio Technica M50x, so pretty much V shaped with scooped mids. You can decide if that's a positive or negative thing...
I am deeply disappointed...
I do like the classy design and build quality, but this won't be my favorite and I will reach back to the old one, 80 or 250 ohms versions.
This situation feels like a classic movie remake with a different actors for the today"s "standards". Not always necessary or true to the original.
The new Stellar 45 driver is powerful that's the only good thing with it.
Personally I don't like the direction that Beyer took with these new line of "studio" headphones. 😢
I don't think we have the same ears
What is he saying by passive? Isn’t that a speaker term? Just wondering 😊
So long as you stay true to your opinion, there’s nothing wrong with working with sponsors/companies looking for honest reviews. The bills have to be paid somehow.
How do you think this will do with a tube amp like the XDUOO TA20 Plus fed with a R2R DAC like the Denafrips Ares 2? would that tame sibilance ?
If it helps, I have a Moondrop Venus with a Xduoo TA-22 tube DAC/AMP and it definitely tames sibilance and makes them warmer. I use a matched pair of Electro Harmonix tubes.
Great review, can you share your EQ profile?
Can you make a video on the quedelix 5k and how to use it on console for good footstep audio?
How does compare to the Maxwell Ultraviolet Edition Gaming Headset? As far as marketing i dont mind helping out.
The Maxwell has DSP so the tonality/frequency response is more agreeable out of the box. The DT 770 Pro X LE is better built and much more comfortable though.
@@GadgetryTech Thank You so much i may give these a try thank you so much as always keep up the good work.
I got them both and I believe they are very close ! The 770 pro X has some planar "feeling" being so punchy, precised and so dynamic in lows
Hey, so I have the DT770 Pro 80ohms that I bought back in 2018, it's still good, but I have a question. Paired with an iFi Zen DAC, for gaming, the volume just isn't loud enough at low gain, and when I hit the high gain button, it distorts when I up the dial. It sounds okay on Spotify because it's louder, but in games it's much quieter, and the distortion is killing the experience that I'm rather sticking with my Kiwi Ears Melody and EM6l IEMs. Will an amp sort the issue or could there be something wrong with the headphones? To be clear, distortion only happens in high gain mode max volume on my Zen DAC and not on low gain.
I have exactly the same headphones as you. What you have to remember is the DT770 are single ended and the 80ohm has a sensitivity of 96db which makes them quite hard to drive. It sounds like your amplifier doesn't have enough power to drive them to their full potential. Options would be a more power amplifier or have your DT770's converted to balanced 🙏
Hey great video review. First time watching you and it's on my favorite headphones ever. Keep up then good work. 🤘
How they sound compared to DT 770 Pro 250Ohm?
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lurker deserved another sub!
Can u pls review and compare DT900 pro X? It is low ohm has the same driver as this one..
Video idea: try some aftermarket pads (brainwavz, WC, etc.) to see if something tames the treble on these
Nobody is talking about the insanly 90€ cable price for a simple Mini-XLR > USB-C cable.
Thought the TYGR 300 R are based on the DT 990 Pro, except they have slightly dampened treble.
I have been using these for the last week, I find them uncomfortable, from the ear cups being too large squeezing on my face and the top headband also pushing too much into the scalp. More importantly though I just can't get use to the faraway sound and the lost details in the mids.
Could you make a video about EQ on pc and android?
If I use these on a ps5 controller is there a way to still use a mic
Wish someone compared the sony mv1 vs senn 490 pro vs 660s2 vs aune ar5000 & also this i know this is half the price & closed but i still wanted just in general comparison of comparableish studio designs & which is great for audiophile listening & not studio work?
can you try the new turtle beatch 600 heatset?
they making you send it back ??
where can i get the headphone stand from the video
It is true that measurements between rigs differ.. it is also true, if you take unit variation out of the equation, that if you want to tune one product to sound like another, both should have been measured on the same rig (i do that to have an idea for my next purchase decision and i start from products that are close in FR to begin with... but at the same time when you go on two squig.links and when landing you see the Harman OE 2018 target, you kind of expect a similar measurement up to 8-9000 hz (at least)..
I am talking about a question I posed to you on Resolve's live stream about different measurement between yours and another guy's for the JT1... turned out he was using a different rig but still featured H2018 on his squig.. I have since seen another measurement on a rig that can "support" the H2018 and it is similar to yours...
You should do what feels right to you. You're never going to please everyone no matter what. What are some other tech channels that you respect doing? I wouldn't question your integrity either way.
the old 770s and lg v50 phone ftw
I hope they make a dt 990 of this
Link to the headphone stand?
i need your help guys i am between dt 770 pro and this one dt 770 pro x LE ?
The DT 770 Pro sound much more natural and enjoyable to me. The DT 770 Pro X LE (and also the DT 700 Pro X) are easier to drive and get louder. But I can easily get the classic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms loud enough, and their better sound, tried and tested design, and cheaper price made the decision easy for me.
Quick characteristics of the three:
- DT 770 Pro X LE: V-shaped, recessed mids, very sharp treble, strong sub-bass, lacks a bit in upper bass, pretty airy and open character
- DT 700 Pro X: Balanced frequency-response, great mids, lacks a bit in upper bass and upper treble, can still sound sharp in lower/mid treble, a little closed-in and congested
- DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms (no idea how different they are compared to 32 and 250 Ohms): Balanced frequency-response with slight elevations in bass and treble, still present and detailed mids, not recessed, occasionally a little sharp treble (much less then the DT 770 Pro X LE, and if it does, it's in a less annoying region further up), better upper treble extension/air than both Pro X models, very airy and open character for a closed-back
Beyerdynamic keeps churning out V-shaped headphones and peeps still say that studio monitors are flat.
I think that you taking money from them is not a good or bad thing for us. If you stay truthful is what matters
100% staying truthful regardless. I may add the affiliate link but not sure yet. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Truthfully, I trust Joe to do an honest review, regardless. Affiliate or not.
what about Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro?
Hey what's your daily atm?
Usually HD6XX and Caldera Open.
@GadgetryTech thanks for the reply. For gaming aswell?
@@I.AMWallzy I’ve kind of been all over for gaming. Partly due to testing so much stuff out. The A50X and Epos H6 Pro get used a lot. Runner ups are the Nova Pro Wireless and Maxwell
@GadgetryTech yea I have nova pro x wired with wicked cushions!
Absolutely love them but always keen to try others. Potentially even iems. Anything worth changing to? Or just stick with the nova's you think? I've already had a50 4th gen
Thanks so much for confirming my suspicions on these cans. I've been using a pair of the standard DT770 Pro 80ohms for over 10 years and decided to pre order these after the NAMM reveal. When they got here and I A/B'd them to my old pair, I absolutely HATED the siblance these produced. I got ear fatigue incredibly quickly, to the point where I thought something was wrong with these given the claim by Beyerdynamic that these were supposed to be tuned just like the standard DT770 Pros. My wife also ordered a pair and I checked hers to confirm it wasnt just a QC issue. Unfortunate because they are so physically comfortable, but when the EQ curve is so drastic on the highs that it creates uncomfortable siblance issues with songs I KNOW didnt have that and makes cymbals downright painful to listen to in any modern rock or metal, I opted to send them back within a day and go for the Sennheiser HD490 Pros.
Hey, so do you game with your 80 ohm 770s? What source do you have and did you feel you needed amping?
@@zerotactix5739 I do use them for gaming, as well as recording and mixing. I have a Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 that has plenty on tap to drive these, I've never felt I needed to utilize a secondary amp in front of that audio interface.
A bit of an unfair vs game there though… “I didn’t like these 170$ cans so I spend 450$ on a pair of Sennheiser”, I wonder what made you think that it was worth taking that jump once you found the treble too tough on the Beyerdynamics.
The old DT770 pro 80s are just as sibilant. I also have both.
As the earpads wear, the sound gets less sibilant.
@@GuyGamer1Disagree. I've replaced the pads multiple times on my old pair with OEM pads, and the siblance issue is not present like on the Pro X.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with affiliate links.
Put these on an OTL tube amp 🔥🔥🔥🔥
this vs the fiio ft1?