They're a great truck - as long as you mod the circlip in the transfer case to stop if falling out( voiding your warranty), extend and replace the breather to stop it blowing seals, and re-engineer the transfer case mounts to stop it flopping around, and if the diff locker computer actually engages the diff locks... read unsealed 4x4 issue 57 for a honest review after 5 years of ownership.
Daily transmissions seem feeble with some known upgrades with reliability possibly inspired by Land Rover? Won't exchange my Unimog for one any time soon but I am looking at acquiring another crusty Defender!
Even the trysty Unimog isn't exempt from the odd issue. I have driven a U500 regularly and more recently a U1400 and they had both experienced issues. However, Unimogs are the ultimate workhosrse I agree. The Daily is for a different market sector and given the choice of a new Defender (Soon to be known as a Defuncter when those 85 ECU's start playing up) or a Daily then the Daily gets the order. Old Defender's would also win before buying a new one subject to the job needs.
@@JonDingle Agreed, but the only issues I have had in the extreme wilds with my 22 year old Unimog have been a fractured oil breather banjo bolt (fixed with a homemade wooden plug) and need for looking out for fretting of wires and pneumatic pipes. Apart from that, the thing is more reliable than your heartbeat especially when tackling deep river crossings or ludicrous blizzards . I've had no hub gear overheating or oil migration issues even on 900 km motorway thrash . Now building my second Unimog camper after 5 happy years of the first. I don't think new Iveco residual values will equate either with nil depreciating old Unimogs or ever appreciating proper Defenders.
The Daily looks a bit more comparable to a Unimog than a landcruiser - without being at all comparable to a Unimog ! I'm not even sure why Land Rover gets a mention here. Farmers toys need to stay on the farm.
Made a trip through Russia with the old modell in 2003 and crossed the Canning Stock Route directly after my trip through Russia. I always loved the vehicle, with the new engine and the two life axles, this is one of the best offroad vehicles in this size you can get! Even if my heart still beats for Land Cruiser ;-)
G'day Andrew, All I can say is you do get used to it after about a week, no matter the number of times you get in & out, you adapt to the beast. We did with our HINO 4X4 which has a working payload of 5000 Kg & a larger beast to the Iveco, the only addition I made was the addition of a third step similar to a Mercedes that folds up in rough terrain mate, I don't think you would be disappointed with the Iveco considering your work & long term needs. The Landcruiser sized vehicles are all fun & easy to drive & you can camp for a week or two alright but for full time living or really extended living & working from (as in your case) you do need the real thing, not a weekly warrior. Safe Travels Mate, Steve.
@@zenmachine50 Yes you are correct on that point, However, you missed the point of the test as Andrew is considering upsizing his next rig he will build so he has the room to sit & edit his work as he goes & also a more comfortable setup for when his wife Gwen accompanies him. Speaking from my own experiance with the HINO you fold back the air ride seats armrest, step through into the pod you have your dinette, fully equiped kitchen then on to the seperate bedroom & finally to the full ensuite bathroom. Sorry, I left out the fully airconditioned & the seperate washer & dryer combo. You can also park in most places a Landcruiser goes & we only setup our outside amenities when we are stopping for more than 2 days to a month, but for just the night there is no setup no foldups no popups & no slide outs, were just at Home.
That actually means Andrew is getting old... take 10 years of him and he would not complain about it. It's like old people modifying their bath tubs so they don't have to climb in and out...
We're here in the remote Australian desert..... spying the elusive Iveco Daily 4x4. This young rock crawler has swallowed a middle aged white human and is now on the lookout for a watering hole.
I like where this is going. You also keep in mind you are comparing a stick unloaded truck to your highly modified cruiser. Some mods and weight and that truck would be a dream tourer.
My 20 year old Toyota gets me out into the bush very nicely thank you and its paid for and does not need roadside assist. Getting out and enjoying the peace and quiet of the bush is so special. I think weekend in the bush with Andrew would wear my ears out
I have the 2018 IVECO Daily in the 3ltr and have been driving it hard for 12 months, absolutely no problems I love it. If I spent a lot of time in soft sand the 4x4 would be hard to stop.
@@ridgedogb139 german army trucks are iveco, the iveco lince lvm is owned by all army from uk to germany. This iveco is proved from iraq, afganistan, somalia libano wars
Ridgedog........hate to tell you mate, but a Ferrari is also a Fiat, Fiat own Ferrari, and anybody who's worked in the automotive industry will know that many manufacturers share common monocoques and most models are available from different manufacturers with minor badge engineering changes, case in point a Nissan NP 200 Ute/pickup is actually a Renault, shares the same dash, interior doors trim as a Renault Sandero
Love the look of them and the performance too, but out of my price range. On top of that I think getting parts would be an issue, especially if you’re anywhere remotely remote. I think an Isuzu equivalent may be easier to get parts for, but I really don’t know. Perhaps with a lottery win, I might consider the Iveco. 😃
I appreciate your candid appraisal of a vehicle which you obviously like but doesn’t really tick all of your boxes. If I were buying such a vehicle your comments would be very helpful. Once again very professional, very enjoyable, well produced program, best regards and thanks. Bill Westley
Andrew doesn't look like the calories from CocaCola are anything extra. All that sugar might not shorten his life more than a lion. Or elephant for that matter.
What a great unbiased video, just one thing regarding your criticism of getting in and out, I drive a 5 ton truck around for my job, some days I can be in and out 50 times per day, honestly after the first 2 days you don't even think about it. Trust me, it becomes second nature....
Very refreshing and clearly unbiased review. A niche product that you would really have to need to want. Priced out of range of the everyday worker as it won’t fulfil a daily driver role. If mining company’s buy them and they come to auction in a few years, then it might work as a exploration toy. How unstoppable it must feel. Mind you if you did get badly stuck, you would need a hell of a vehicle to un stuck you.
MaCcAM40a3. expensive as in it’s a one purpose vehicle. If you buy a 100k land cruiser at least it can be your daily driver and family car. The wife can still pick up the kids and do the shopping. This one purpose vehicle, a toy if you wish. Obviously I don’t mean it as the vehicle itself is a toy, far from it. You would need a big disposable income to have this plus a family car. Some can, but I’m talking about the average working family.
Add a Nice 'Receiver Type Winch' to The Front' and Back ' Gas Adustable Front Shocks _Air Bags Out Back' _ Now You've Got a All Purpose Comfortable 'Road n' Off Road Truck!😏👍🌏🌍🌎✌
I own a 4x4 Daily and I drive it around town, can park in a normal car space in the open. No it can't go in under ground parking or through a drive through that just means it helps with the diet lol. @@SLADE330
Very interesting vehicle, thanks to Iveco or whoever let you test this truck, great job Andrew the review and editing with all detailed information left nothing to wish for.
It may be different in Australia; the UK Iveco Daily 4x4 has two two-speed transfer boxes and a six-speed plus reverse gearbox with a total of 24 forward 4 reverse gears. 18/4=4.5
Ive always said, if those magic numbers come up, this would be very high on my list of vehicles to buy!! Small enough for most areas but a great living space for the global tour. Extremely capable for the type of trips I would take!!!
Excellent review, unlike some that are just PR material interpretations. I believe you made a mistake, it does have 24 forward gears, not 18. It's 2x2x6. And four reverse gears 2x2x1. It seams to me that most of the problems can be solved with mods during the build. Stock 70 series is rather plain, too.
I'm absolutely with you! Imho, the only downside of getting in and out came with the bif tires and the incredible ground clearence. Any vehicle of this size has the same problem. It doesn't matter, if you're looking for Unimogs, american trucks, bigger vans, Isuzu NPS... as soon as you get some serious tires, you will climb. 💁♂
Having also driven one offroad, with a camper body as I was debating whether I'd want one as my future global overlander, I have to agree that they're extremely capable vehicles. Not particularly in tight spots with trees, but that's the nature of the vehicle, however it definitely turns better than a 70 series, Patrol etc. so you definitely have a level of confidence with it. The only issue I can see is the actual licence required to drive it overseas as you're generally issued up to 3500kg GVM when you get your international licence, despite being allowed a much higher weight on an Aussie licence. Luckily I'm an older(ish) fart with a UK licence allowing me to drive a larger vehicle which would appear on the international licence, however it could be an issue at some borders when getting insurance (pretty sure the earth cruiser guys found this out years ago). Still not buying one though, as I imagine the stress levels of driving a vehicle this big, with the steering wheel on the wrong side through any major global city would not be pleasant. Perfect for Oz though.
I owned such an Iveco and i had always mechanical and electronically problems...no reliability at all. Just a toy that will make you crazy....I own now since 2001 two toyota HZJ 78 and HZJ 79....never had any problem and they have more than 300 000 kms.
I like the Iveco too, but have seen a lot of them having all kind of electrical problems. Another drop back is the fact that Iveco is not global brand at all so depending where you want to go there will be no one able to repair it and no parts available too.
@@pascalvanraes382 My iveco has been brilliant consistently reliable, only wear and tear items and the reverse light not working (wiring issue) and it's coming up to 600000km
@@100racer Mine was out of order at 5000 kms, direction broken , after transfer box broken, transmission problems , electronical problems, brake system that doesn't brake anymore, overheating, webasto out of use, injection system defect . the main problem is that my Iveco Daily 4X4 was made with poor materials..seems use poor chinese wiring.Nothing to do with this vehicle...never, but never an Iveco anymore.. mine was just shit and i used around 1000 $ per month to use it.
I certainly hope your next build is an Iveco. They are a weapon off road while still letting you build the truck in the overland fashion that you generally do.
in italy national electrical company use it since i believe more than 20 years, they all comes from the experience with the VM 90 military light truck for troops, last 3 liter 4 cyl engine develope a massive torque and near to 200 horse power, they are awesome for mountains need, or in case it's needed go into woods with deep mud, everyone love it here, reliable, fast on tarmack and comfy enough for a truck builded for workers, so not the best one for sure, but more than enough!
If the Iveco was more reliable and cheaper to fix with more power from maybe a V6 TD it would have my vote. The LC has proven itself as a much better reliable unit.
Thanks Australians !!!....indeed what a great 4x4 Iveco ......terrific truck !!! Love your videos !!!!! Great explaining !!!!!! I will love to visit Australia someday . What a beautiful Countey . Love from Germany
Saw one of these fully kitted out in Tassie just on the weekend. Does look like a weapon of a vehicle. Had Queensland plates and looked setup for touring.
That thing is pretty awesome! Front coils would of helped, but probably would cause some limitations in payload. Leafs are good enough for this type of vehicle
About 3 months back you were looking into the 6x6 landcruiser option to which I thought was an interesting proposition. I made the suggestion to have a good look at an Iveco daily as they(in my opinion) are superior in comparison for an over land vehicle, all things considered. I'm very pleased you've had a drive and clearly 'you know you want one' that smile was constant behind the wheel, can't say the same with the 79 series. It's almost like toyota gave you half the vehicle but charged full price to which you then 'altered, improved, completed, added' your wants and needs to. The Iveco should be your next trade, you'll be a happy and a slightly fitter individual if you do. Great video as always, love your work.
While in military service in the early 80's, I owned and drove a Fiat Campagnola. It was a very reliable vehicle and we did lots of crazy offroad drives with it. Fiat and Iveco have very good engines, the rest is just as other cars/trucks, they need higher maintenance, if used hard.
There's no comparison between the old, reliable Fiats, and the new, unreliable Iveco with its multitude of design/strength issues. Iveco is a company formed from an agglomeration of 5 Italian companies, and the tiny little 3 litre Iveco engine is notorious for electrical problems.
@@D375-h6v We had a company FIAT Doblo, did over 200.000km in one year, no problems at all. Most European campers have Fiat and Iveco engines, because they are reliable. Vans like Doblo Ducato,.. that drive around Europe are made in Turkey by Fiat Murat.
I know this guy from our common Land Rover Defender days. Swapped out his Defender for a Daily 4x4. Had a bucket load of problems, but he was extremely inventive and came up with all sorts of work arounds to get it more reliable. Iveco Australia don't come out covered in glory whatsoever. Do a google for GoingBush and Iveco and you'll find his blog.
@@nathanruscoe4463 it would have been nice if Iveco took some of Don and Marcus ideas on board and improved the SCAM Daily rather than dropping it for the new Iveco model with independent front end, single reduction low range, significantly reduct gradient ability and more ability reducing changes. :-(
That said, issues aside Don still says the Daily is the most capable 4x4 of this nature ever made. Not perfect without a host of fixes, but impressive abilities.
Nice , I like it , we prefer much less air in the tires , it stops wheelspin ,and preserves the track much better , stops gullies from forming in your tracks !
Just the test I was looking for, and very, very helpful! I have been considering one of these vehicles for some time. I owned an Oka which required climbing up the wheel hubs to get into and out of, so I understand that aspect of daily use only too well. Hopefully, this unit would be considerably more reliable! Thanks for a great review. Totsiens!
Having driven a few, also the 2.3 no power model, this is generally a good off road capable vehicle...it's crash ratings are probably better than a 70 series too.
Really good review Andrew. I trust your opinion more than anyone else's when it comes to 4x4 vehicles. The shots using the drone is a treat when done properly and you sir, are the best at integrating those shots at just the right times.
My old man owned 13 car yards in Vic, I lern't to drive when I was 7 years of age, moving cars around the lot (under direction). I've driven most models of every brand from 1950 to 2000 in Oz and I'd hazard to guess the amount of car's i've washed and/or detailed. Moved to WA in 2007 Drove heavy machinery on all types of dirt and now drive frieght trains, though I've been off from any work for the last 2 years due to illness.
Italian military been using these for quite a few years, just like the Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 used by the Swiss, Austrian and German militaries, Mountain search & rescue, police not including forestry departments as well as general utilities. US military used Iveco/dodge/Renault variants on the European bases, even fully fitted motorhome is still 1/3rd the cost of a FORD F450 Overlander conversion, and then having crawler gears.! A perfect BUG OUT vehicle.!
When was the last time the Italian Army won a War?? The Italian Army has just reduced their chances of winning any future War, by buying Iveco 4x4's. The Italian Army buys Iveco 4x4 simply because by doing so, they're supporting Italian and European industry, not because they're the best off-road 4WD.
D375 I don’t want to divert, but when was the last time any country won a war...?? Last war I know that there was an actual winner was the ‘67 war of Israel, before that was WWII, then go back to the Boer War and then 1776 independence war which was followed by the Spanish war, everything up today after ‘67 was settled or abandoned with no clear winner, and as all wars there’s never a winner due to the human cost not including the financial detriment. But that’s enough of the war thing, but back to your Italians buying Italian, Britain bought landrovers, Germany France Austria Switzerland Holland Belgium Australia use Mercedes G wagons and the SAS & SBS services of the UK. The US used Humvees, Japan made there own version of the Humvee (Toyota) very similar just better, so meaning all countries will usually purchase their own country made vehicles due the the reasons you stated, besides the Iveco is a good vehicle due to the decent engineering of the transfer cases, axels and gearboxes, the engine is a generic PSA block used by various manufacturers, reliability is pretty good considering although I would’ve used a VM Motor, which is Italian so patriotic is still there but the robustness and reliability is outstanding with excellent power. Land Rover made the UK military defender which actually shared none of the specifications of the civilian sibling, chassis, axels, electrics, but it was still unreliable like it’s civilian sibling...
I would like to see an offroad test between this Iveco and the smallest Unimog, I think it is the U20, long term reliability of the Unimog range is well known, not sure about the Iveco, but it does look like a highly capable vehicle and ideal for extended overland trips across rough terrain.
Obviously the wade depth is wrong. Its 66 cms not 660cms. Is this a cheaper Unimog? It might look a bit similar, but no. The Mog is in a different class altogether. If the Unimog is a rocket-propelled grenade, then the Iveco is a pea-shooter.
Probably the only time the words 'Unimog' & 'Rocket Propelled' have been in the same sentence. The people comparing them are probably the same ones saying they knew this would be your next truck, despite clearly saying it won't be in the video..
I had one for 2 weeks as a test drive and I would have to agree with most of what this guy said. I too had one without any weight on the rear tray which caused alot of side to side roll when off road, I found it almost unbearable driving some 300kms truely off road and in harsh-ish environment. The constant side roll at around 20kms per hour was like being in a washing machine. Without a load I found it very light on the road with a tendency to drift and bounce at 100km per HR. More than capable off road machine, would need to really get used to the height to really find it's capabilities. It's a very capable machine, I compared the one I had to a 200 series fully set up wagon so that wasn't a fair comparison as the 200 is very nice off-road. If in the right environment with some good load on the back Of say this is a pretty amazing machine. I'd love one as a tourer.
Absolutely loved this video. The weird thing is I was just having a chat with my friend who is over on holiday in Oz right now. I was saying how I loved the Daily 4x4 and then 30 minutes later up comes this video in my newsfeed. Oddly enough despite him being a Patrion of yours, he had not seen the video. Hopefully this has put an end to his Sprinter plans and he gets a Daily instead!
@@offroadingfoz another friend bought a 2wd Sprinter a few weeks back. He is converting it into a camper. Not so much for offroading or anything, but for a bit of comfort when he is mountain biking etc. Ive not seen it yet, but looking forward to it. A group of us are camping in 2 weeks time so hopefully he brings the van instead of his Defender 90, then I can bring my bus instead of my Disco. Its cold here in Ireland at this time of year.
I like the Sprinter 4x4 very much. Not as hard core off road as this, but is that your friend's priority? If its comfort and versatility, I think the Sprinter may be better. I'll be testing one in the US in July.
If you permit, just take a look at my last video's from the Pyrenees. I have a shortened Oberaigner Sprinter with permanent 4x4, good reduction and 3 diff locks. Before that I had a Discovery 4 and therefor a Discovery 2. My Sprinter does better than the Disco2, but just a bit less good than the Disco 4. The Disco 4 had a superb traction control, the short Sprinter lacks that. The Sprinter is multifunctional, good & fast on roads, has a very short turning radius and is good for overlanding. It is not for technical trials and it feels more scary when tilting sideways.
@@4x4overlandSprinter I will certainly have a look and sub to your channel also, gotta help each other out! We visited the Pyrenees in 2017, it was our first ever trip abroad. We only created Donegal Overlanding the year before because I wanted to make friends who liked camping with 4x4s and there was nothing overland related in Ireland. I've not even finished the series yet, I still have two more episodes to do. In the last video the terrain was quite rough, I doubt a Sprinter would have got down it. We were following a road book from a French guy, the company is called Vibraction.
I´ve driven a 20 year old "version" of that. 4x4 capabilities are no problem at all, especially if take in consideration that the weightier the truck, the slower you go. btw therefor it has slower/higher gearing. I do see the higher Niveau of the seating/living area as a high benefit! Of course it takes more effort to get in, but nobody can look inside that easy, grab anything or so. It is a security and privacy benefit. Depending on WHERE you travel a wider car/truck has a huge advantage in its width: You can sleep side wise in the back, enter via side or through the front seats! The back is always the dirtiest part of the truck.
Thanks for this review. I have always wanted a huge over landing vehicle and this really helped me weigh out the pros and cons. I appreciate your videos. Keep them coming.
I love it as a overlander road tripper adventurer, biest convert back into a sleeping amd living and cooking are but ya still got loads of room for tools and storage it is Great cozy, would be awesome
I came across one of those Ivecos with a camper on the back when I was trying to leave Edel Land (Steep point) in WA, where there’s a lot of narrow paths suitable for only one vehicle at a time and soft sand there are many many signs recommending people drop their tyre pressure to at least 20 PSI or lower to make their drive easier and to preserve the tracks for all users. The grey nomads driving this vehicle were partially stuck almost down to the hub on the rear axle, blocking my path for three reasons: 1) Serious attitude issues. Ignorant toward signs, didn’t book a camping spot in advance despite being a very popular site, destroying the track. One of them was very condescending and rude to us when we were helping them. 2) They didn’t lower their tyre pressures at all because one of them thought that ‘they didn’t need to’, so the wheels were cutting pretty deeply into the track 3) Despite owning the vehicle for an extended period, they did not know how to engage four wheel drive. My friend and I pointed out that the effects of their current activity was disrespectful to the park and everyone using the track. Then we dug them out using my shovel, lowered their tyre pressures for them, showing them how to do so, figured out how engage four wheel drive and pointed them in the direction of where they needed to be. All the while one of them condescended us and argued every point (good thing the other was a keen learner and genuinely appreciative human being). While I was doing all of that, I was inspecting the vehicle and gathered some thoughts about it which could be summarised as that it’s ‘a bit much’ and a bit unsuitable for these grey nomads in particular. - The spare wheels are mounted quite high on the vehicle, on the rear at shoulder height for me as a 175cm tall man. They were also steel split rims and I expect they’re not light. If one of those wheels were required to be changed, I would hate to imagine what this nearly 70 year old man would do to his heart trying to just get the wheel off and change it. - Split rims have been known to ‘let go’ when being reinflated which is why the majority of work places replace them with ROH sunraiser steel rims. This is dangerous and if you’re in a remote place like Andrew says this vehicle is capable of taking grey nomads, such a situation, even if unlikely, could unnecessarily happen and cause death that would have been otherwise completely avoidable. - Grey Nomads often complain about fuel consumption, I can’t imagine it’s terribly good on fuel so they’d be blocking all the single lane double lined roads doing 80kph in 110 zones to conserve fuel. - I think the vehicle is too complicated for ‘average’ people, like the ones I encountered, to use properly (you described two transfer cases and 18 forward gear ratios) because they can’t be bothered learning how to correctly use it, hence why they got stuck. - As you mentioned the centre of gravity is quite high and someone not used to driving trucks may drive dangerously causing harm to themselves and others. If for whatever reason a grey nomad was to purchase such a vehicle I think there should be some things that should be undertaken in advance. - first aid training and carry a defibrillator - there’s no excuse, you’ve got the space for a kit and a defibrillator and if you can afford to buy such an expensive vehicle you can afford a cheap course and a defib. - Learn how to use the vehicle properly so you don’t get stuck and block everyone’s way. It is a capable vehicle but a heavy vehicle, extracting you won’t be easy for people in a regular 4WD. - Learn how to drive off road properly by at least practicing and getting tuition. It takes 1000s of hours in order to master things and build confidence. - Drive the vehicle respectfully so you don’t tip over and don’t cause unnecessary stress on the track or vehicle. - Replace the split rim wheels with something safer, it’s just not worth it. - Have some sort of mechanical aid to help lift or lower the tyres. You might not ever need to change one, but you might need to, and as a grey nomad, you’re well past your physical prime, don’t stuff your back or give yourself a heart attack because help could be hours and hours away. - If you choose to drive slowly, pull over and let everyone past you. A bit of humility and courtesy goes a long way. Otherwise, I agree with everything Andrew says, it’s a very capable, large spacious vehicle that can afford you the ability to overland to very remote places in comfort, just think long and hard about it and be honest with yourself about your own capabilities.
I drive an Iveco for work, a big refrigeration Pantech often loaded with close to 4.5 tonne and duel tyres on the back it uses around 15 litres to 100k so not to much really one of these would be better
I love the old Defender 110 and am a huge fan of the 4x4 all day long but IVECO have made the best looking and most durable and desirable vehicle to build a camper on that is capable of very good off road and lets face it this one in the clip is factory standard, imagine a pimped up version. Gotta love IVECO One of the few ladder chassis van available still
Here in UK my company went thru tons of them Ivecos (not 4x4 but standard vans). I had once the gear knob staying in my hand after changing the gear. Other time the 2018 year production van just switched off completely during driving, good nothing was behind me. Plenty of electric issues in those. We went back to Mercedes-Benz vans for a better, reliable usage. Plus they loose a lot on value while Your Toyota if not stay on value it will gain it over time. Greetings and all the best.
You like that daily, imagine that as a van with a bed that rests in the roof, the space would be amazing, they can take up to 7 tonnes (not that you would go anywhere near that) what a fantastic vehicle Andrew?
Great review with excellent information! Everyone will have their view on which truck / vehicle they wish to use... Fortunately Pure Offroad RV can build a light weight motorhome body on whatever you want... Especially for your New Iveco Daily 4x4!!
Amazing video and vehicle. Thanks Andrew. Probably the best for touring, and doing all the rough stuff throughout the world, and so convenient, but, height wise, totally unsuitable for taking around the bush. Still I don't really now Australia and the bush conditions there, but here in Africa, take some of the less travelled places in Zambia, i.e. Bellpoint Lusemfwa Gorge, Lusenga Plains ..., actually most out-of-the-way, 'overgrown places,' the bush is too low, even a GX80 Cruiser with a roofrack has to take care. As an Overlander though the Iveco looks brilliant.
It was really cool to see Botswana in this, and just FYI, it's Moremi! 😉 There are quite a few IVECO's that I've seen that were outfitted for the bush here in Bots, they're quite capable, the ones I've seen were made to be game viewers. Great video btw!
Fabulous video, Mr. White! That would be great platform for a flatbed pop-up camper. Imagine the camper extending over the cab, and how much extra living space you could have! You could fit a jacuzzi to ease the daily pain of climbing in and out 30-40x/ day. With the lower profile, you would also be able to ship around the world in a high cube shipping container (~2.9m high; running 35” tires might allow you to fit in a standard container [2.6m H]). However, in the container, you might have to put camper end-to-end with the truck.
I was contemplating one of these until I started looking at long term review.... Which are poor at best. Most issue seem to be with customer support or lack of on Ivecos part.
Hi Andrew nice "Dream Machine" great for the Grey Nomads who want to do the likes of Cape Leveque or The Gibb River Road in comfort. Not the sort of thing I'd be using in the Australian bush or for an all round Overlander here. Be great in the likes of the Simson Desert or even the Canning Stock Route and would have lots off work space for video making. So I can see it's appeal for you; but on the likes of the Holland, the Woodline Track, or Googs. It's way to high, to wide and to long; you'd be taking out trees and low branches left, right and center. Those plackie doors on the side would likely get ripped off on the twisting tracks the likes of the Holland.To say nothing of scratching it to pieces on a lot of the coastal tracks down South or the telegraph track across the Bight. You'd face similar problems on the narrow twisting scrub tracks of the Kimberly. Be careful what you wish for. Regards from bigezi.
@@-paulmp They run 4X4 tour buses I think they are either Isuzu or HINO on the CSR, they are about 8 meters overall in length. The section they are restricted from is one of the stations who doesn't even allow camper trailers etc, but there is a go-around track that caters for them. In Andrews CSR videos he actually mentions them when deciding to make camp one evening, he did not want to be at a particular well the rigs normally stop & camp at, you will see one similar to the ones used in the video.
I would 100% buy the Iveco before I’d buy any Toyota especially the LandCruiser. To reduce the noise swap the MTs for ATs. It’s unlikely with that vehicle’s capability, that you’d need Muddies anyway. When getting into the truck in the sand you should’ve used the handle on the A pillar. I notice they don’t have one above the door though.
I drove a 30 seater bus based on the iveco Daily with the same engine. Nice, comfortable and easy to drive. But it was a bit underpowered for such a heavy vehicle (7,5 tons).
I drive an Iveco duel cab truck and also have a current model Pajero, around town and on long trips, I would prefer to drive my Iveco every day. Other drivers just stay clear, the mirrors and general visebility are fantastic, servicing every 40K but I do it at 20K, the engine does not sound like a clattering Toyota diesel, it is super smooth, and they now use this engine in the Mercedes sprinter. The only gripe is the harsh ride, otherwise I love it.
After 5 years campaigning with Unimog 1 , a 1997 U1250, I'm now building Unimog 2 , a 1996 U2150 3.85 m chassis with CTIS and a Zeppelin box. Nothing made me consider a shiny new Iveco Daily...
I know you hate Mitsubishi (for good reason after hearing the stories), but there's a small group of people who love making Mitsubishi Fuso/Canters into overlanders. Theyre bigger cabover trucks like this, I've seen them in short wheel base 5 seat cab configuration before like this. I ended up going with a Delica L300, but I've driven a few of their larger cabover trucks as rentals for moving stuff around. Theyre fun to drive, and if I'd known they wouldnt be that much more expensive, I probably would have gotten one instead and done a sort of DIY earth roamer build. One big advantage they get is a solid front axle. I guess one advantage of the delica is that, being even smaller than your typical American vanlifer (usually some variation of Sprinter or Promaster), and even smaller than similar vans like Econolines, it can hit tighter trails. And I didnt need to spend a ton of money on a 4x4 drivetrain swap, since a lot of USDM vans dont have that as a factory stock option.
The Diff articulation is pretty good for a vehicle with a front differential, significantly aided by what looks to be parabolic leaf springs, I put parabolic leaf springs and Monroe gas Magnum dampers on my old ex British military Series 3 109' Landy, it made a massive difference to the diff crossover in particular (no diff locks on the vehicle) amongst many other mods. It seems to be half way between a unimog and a land cruiser/Rover 130'. In my humble opinion and judging by the prices I'd look at a Swiss army surplus Steyr Pugh Pinzgauer 6×6, forward control layout, centre tubular chassis that incorporates the 3 centre pivoting diff's with lockers. You simply cannot beat Pinzgauer
To get in easily, put your right foot on the step and with your right hand grad the handle and swing your left foot in first, then your bum on the seat! rather easy once you get the hang of it. I have a mid size pick up (gmc canyon) with 2.8l turbo diesel, it outputs 180 hp for 370 pound of torque/feet, plenty for me really! 2,5 inch lift kit and 33'' tires give me 18'' clearance. I love my mini monster! ;)
@@postbreak ya the zr2 and canyon share same engines. what I love about it is the fact its a 4 banger so fuel consomption is way low, it costs me about $50 a week for about 400 to 500 km, but still have plenty of torque for off road!
almost every 4wd on the planet has at bare minimum 33 inch tyres and a 2 inch lift. That's basically a sedan in 4wd terms so I'm sure Andrew is more then aware of how to get in and out of sedans like that. If he is having trouble with the 37 inch tyres and big lift etc I'm sure its not due to a lack of experience getting in and out of lifted trucks. If he is struggling its not due to lack of technique I'm sure.
@@geoffclarke5901 are you Andrew! no than mind your own! if you saw the video assuming you are not just a FN troll, at one point he struggles getting in with a knee on the seat. what do you drive Mr. know it all!
Jp Jerome no obviously my name isn’t Andrew as denoted by..... my name🤦🏼♂️ does it matter what I drive? It’s a 4WD so it’s clearly going to be at bare minimum 33inch with 2 inch lift I think we can all agree all (or mostly all like excluding the people who don’t go off road) our four wheel drives are AT least that tall? But let’s not make this about me..... it’s about Andrew.... with his troopy that has a 2 inch lift and 33inch tyres and he has been getting in and out of thousands of times..... not to mention his previous experience with other vehicles..... and he has no problem getting in and out if it and others like it for the past 30 odd years.... the fact he struggled with the iveco suggests that the technique you suggested which he and everyone else uses (except for the odd retarded weirdo) to get in and out of a normal 4WD was clearly not making this vehicle comfortable enough. If I’m wrong and Andrew is trying to reverse belly flop into the truck and your advice was something he somehow hadn’t picked up over the last 30 years or more then I apologise to you...... but I assume Andrew has at least moderate intelligence and if he says he doesn’t like getting in and out of the truck that technique is not the issue..... didn’t think that needed explaining! Tried to “dumb it down” and if you still can’t get it then I dunno I give up🤷🏼♂️ have a good one
Hi Andrew, great video. The Iveco should work for your intentions - call it specific project-based approach for a overseeable time frame. If you want to buy a vehicle for keeping and capable of maintaining over many years it won't have the desired longevity. For that pls keep the Troopy - fantastic. There are many blogs in German language on Iveco 4x4s from people who used Ivecos in all sorts of climates for Overlanding and overall feedback is good. But there are niggles and the overall quality of components is not as good as Toyota or Mercedes. But certainly same level as US products.
They're a great truck - as long as you mod the circlip in the transfer case to stop if falling out( voiding your warranty), extend and replace the breather to stop it blowing seals, and re-engineer the transfer case mounts to stop it flopping around, and if the diff locker computer actually engages the diff locks... read unsealed 4x4 issue 57 for a honest review after 5 years of ownership.
I would buy an Iveco Daily 4x4 instead of a new Land Rover Defender any day!
Daily transmissions seem feeble with some known upgrades with reliability possibly inspired by Land Rover? Won't exchange my Unimog for one any time soon but I am looking at acquiring another crusty Defender!
Even the trysty Unimog isn't exempt from the odd issue. I have driven a U500 regularly and more recently a U1400 and they had both experienced issues. However, Unimogs are the ultimate workhosrse I agree. The Daily is for a different market sector and given the choice of a new Defender (Soon to be known as a Defuncter when those 85 ECU's start playing up) or a Daily then the Daily gets the order. Old Defender's would also win before buying a new one subject to the job needs.
@@JonDingle Agreed, but the only issues I have had in the extreme wilds with my 22 year old Unimog have been a fractured oil breather banjo bolt (fixed with a homemade wooden plug) and need for looking out for fretting of wires and pneumatic pipes. Apart from that, the thing is more reliable than your heartbeat especially when tackling deep river crossings or ludicrous blizzards . I've had no hub gear overheating or oil migration issues even on 900 km motorway thrash . Now building my second Unimog camper after 5 happy years of the first. I don't think new Iveco residual values will equate either with nil depreciating old Unimogs or ever appreciating proper Defenders.
they are Fiat under another name.
The Daily looks a bit more comparable to a Unimog than a landcruiser - without being at all comparable to a Unimog !
I'm not even sure why Land Rover gets a mention here. Farmers toys need to stay on the farm.
Made a trip through Russia with the old modell in 2003 and crossed the Canning Stock Route directly after my trip through Russia. I always loved the vehicle, with the new engine and the two life axles, this is one of the best offroad vehicles in this size you can get! Even if my heart still beats for Land Cruiser ;-)
G'day Andrew, All I can say is you do get used to it after about a week, no matter the number of times you get in & out, you adapt to the
beast. We did with our HINO 4X4 which has a working payload of 5000 Kg & a larger beast to the Iveco, the only addition I made was the addition of a third step similar to a Mercedes that folds up in rough terrain mate, I don't think you would be disappointed with the Iveco considering your work & long term needs.
The Landcruiser sized vehicles are all fun & easy to drive & you can camp for a week or two alright but for full time living or really extended living & working from (as in your case) you do need the real thing, not a weekly warrior.
Safe Travels Mate, Steve.
@@zenmachine50 Yes you are correct on that point, However, you missed the point of the test as Andrew is considering upsizing his next rig he will build so he has the room to sit & edit his work as he goes & also a more comfortable
setup for when his wife Gwen accompanies him. Speaking from my own experiance with the HINO you fold back
the air ride seats armrest, step through into the pod you have your dinette, fully equiped kitchen then on to the
seperate bedroom & finally to the full ensuite bathroom. Sorry, I left out the fully airconditioned & the seperate
washer & dryer combo. You can also park in most places a Landcruiser goes & we only setup our outside amenities
when we are stopping for more than 2 days to a month, but for just the night there is no setup no foldups no popups
& no slide outs, were just at Home.
That actually means Andrew is getting old... take 10 years of him and he would not complain about it. It's like old people modifying their bath tubs so they don't have to climb in and out...
Pretty sure ANdrew is kidding with the exaggeration....
I was thinking the same thing. There has to be a mod to make the steps easier for Andrew's short-ish legs :)
Iveco and safe travels are rarely used in the same sentence ! I really wouldn’t take one of these things somewhere where my life depended on it.
david attenborough of 4WD's
closertothetruth was just about to say the same mate haha own it
That was exactly what I thought when I started watching
That's offensive to Andrew
Was just about to comment that
We're here in the remote Australian desert..... spying the elusive Iveco Daily 4x4. This young rock crawler has swallowed a middle aged white human and is now on the lookout for a watering hole.
I know you dont want to build one but everybody else would love to see you in a Iveco. These are such a great platform for an around Australia tourer.
I like where this is going. You also keep in mind you are comparing a stick unloaded truck to your highly modified cruiser. Some mods and weight and that truck would be a dream tourer.
My 20 year old Toyota gets me out into the bush very nicely thank you and its paid for and does not need roadside assist. Getting out and enjoying the peace and quiet of the bush is so special. I think weekend in the bush with Andrew would wear my ears out
It would be a pretty average review if he didn't say anything
Iveco it's one of the best trucks builders., nice review
I have the 2018 IVECO Daily in the 3ltr and have been driving it hard for 12 months, absolutely no problems I love it. If I spent a lot of time in soft sand the 4x4 would be hard to stop.
How repair cost
The gripe about getting in and out of the vehicle is funny since the excersize would actually make you healthy in the long run and that is priceless.
This guys charisma would sell me a Fiat Multipla.
As the owner of a Fiat Punto, I would suggest that would be a bad time. Especially if you get a DualLogic transmission.
IVECO is a FIAT really.A few people got them in Africa. Fell apart within a couple of years.
@@ridgedogb139 german army trucks are iveco, the iveco lince lvm is owned by all army from uk to germany.
This iveco is proved from iraq, afganistan, somalia libano wars
Hahahaha
Ridgedog........hate to tell you mate, but a Ferrari is also a Fiat, Fiat own Ferrari, and anybody who's worked in the automotive industry will know that many manufacturers share common monocoques and most models are available from different manufacturers with minor badge engineering changes, case in point a Nissan NP 200 Ute/pickup is actually a Renault, shares the same dash, interior doors trim as a Renault Sandero
Love the look of them and the performance too, but out of my price range. On top of that I think getting parts would be an issue, especially if you’re anywhere remotely remote.
I think an Isuzu equivalent may be easier to get parts for, but I really don’t know. Perhaps with a lottery win, I might consider the Iveco. 😃
I appreciate your candid appraisal of a vehicle which you obviously like but doesn’t really tick all of your boxes. If I were buying such a vehicle your comments would be very helpful. Once again very professional, very enjoyable, well produced program, best regards and thanks. Bill Westley
Just 2 extra steps into the cabin, that's 160 extra activity to burn off the cocacola calories.
Andrew doesn't look like the calories from CocaCola are anything extra. All that sugar might not shorten his life more than a lion. Or elephant for that matter.
What a great unbiased video, just one thing regarding your criticism of getting in and out, I drive a 5 ton truck around for my job, some days I can be in and out 50 times per day, honestly after the first 2 days you don't even think about it. Trust me, it becomes second nature....
Very refreshing and clearly unbiased review.
A niche product that you would really have to need to want. Priced out of range of the everyday worker as it won’t fulfil a daily driver role.
If mining company’s buy them and they come to auction in a few years, then it might work as a exploration toy.
How unstoppable it must feel.
Mind you if you did get badly stuck, you would need a hell of a vehicle to un stuck you.
SLADE330 is it really priced out of the everyday worker. A lot of the 79 cruisers you see would be 120-130k cars
MaCcAM40a3.
expensive as in it’s a one purpose vehicle.
If you buy a 100k land cruiser at least it can be your daily driver and family car. The wife can still pick up the kids and do the shopping.
This one purpose vehicle, a toy if you wish. Obviously I don’t mean it as the vehicle itself is a toy, far from it.
You would need a big disposable income to have this plus a family car. Some can, but I’m talking about the average working family.
Maintenance costs and fuel would be through the roof too
Add a Nice 'Receiver Type Winch' to The Front' and Back ' Gas Adustable Front Shocks _Air Bags Out Back' _ Now You've Got a All Purpose Comfortable 'Road n' Off Road Truck!😏👍🌏🌍🌎✌
I own a 4x4 Daily and I drive it around town, can park in a normal car space in the open. No it can't go in under ground parking or through a drive through that just means it helps with the diet lol.
@@SLADE330
Very interesting vehicle, thanks to Iveco or whoever let you test this truck, great job Andrew the review and editing with all detailed information left nothing to wish for.
This was a brilliant documentary.
Really.
And I was also looking for someone who explained it so well.
Well done!!
Thankyou!
Yes please, one of those with a motorhome body on the back would do us nicely. Now all I need to do is win Lotto.
It may be different in Australia; the UK Iveco Daily 4x4 has two two-speed transfer boxes and a six-speed plus reverse gearbox with a total of 24 forward 4 reverse gears.
18/4=4.5
That's a lot of backlash!
Ive always said, if those magic numbers come up, this would be very high on my list of vehicles to buy!! Small enough for most areas but a great living space for the global tour. Extremely capable for the type of trips I would take!!!
Excellent review, unlike some that are just PR material interpretations. I believe you made a mistake, it does have 24 forward gears, not 18. It's 2x2x6. And four reverse gears 2x2x1. It seams to me that most of the problems can be solved with mods during the build. Stock 70 series is rather plain, too.
I'm absolutely with you! Imho, the only downside of getting in and out came with the bif tires and the incredible ground clearence. Any vehicle of this size has the same problem. It doesn't matter, if you're looking for Unimogs, american trucks, bigger vans, Isuzu NPS... as soon as you get some serious tires, you will climb. 💁♂
Having also driven one offroad, with a camper body as I was debating whether I'd want one as my future global overlander, I have to agree that they're extremely capable vehicles. Not particularly in tight spots with trees, but that's the nature of the vehicle, however it definitely turns better than a 70 series, Patrol etc. so you definitely have a level of confidence with it.
The only issue I can see is the actual licence required to drive it overseas as you're generally issued up to 3500kg GVM when you get your international licence, despite being allowed a much higher weight on an Aussie licence. Luckily I'm an older(ish) fart with a UK licence allowing me to drive a larger vehicle which would appear on the international licence, however it could be an issue at some borders when getting insurance (pretty sure the earth cruiser guys found this out years ago). Still not buying one though, as I imagine the stress levels of driving a vehicle this big, with the steering wheel on the wrong side through any major global city would not be pleasant. Perfect for Oz though.
I owned such an Iveco and i had always mechanical and electronically problems...no reliability at all. Just a toy that will make you crazy....I own now since 2001 two toyota HZJ 78 and HZJ 79....never had any problem and they have more than 300 000 kms.
I like the Iveco too, but have seen a lot of them having all kind of electrical problems. Another drop back is the fact that Iveco is not global brand at all so depending where you want to go there will be no one able to repair it and no parts available too.
@@pascalvanraes382 My iveco has been brilliant consistently reliable, only wear and tear items and the reverse light not working (wiring issue) and it's coming up to 600000km
@@100racer Mine was out of order at 5000 kms, direction broken , after transfer box broken, transmission problems , electronical problems, brake system that doesn't brake anymore, overheating, webasto out of use, injection system defect . the main problem is that my Iveco Daily 4X4 was made with poor materials..seems use poor chinese wiring.Nothing to do with this vehicle...never, but never an Iveco anymore.. mine was just shit and i used around 1000 $ per month to use it.
@@pascalvanraes382 the older ones are Rock solid im talking about before 1998
The nice thing about this truck is that you can still put a nice box on the back with everything in it including the kitchen sink
I certainly hope your next build is an Iveco. They are a weapon off road while still letting you build the truck in the overland fashion that you generally do.
in italy national electrical company use it since i believe more than 20 years, they all comes from the experience with the VM 90 military light truck for troops, last 3 liter 4 cyl engine develope a massive torque and near to 200 horse power, they are awesome for mountains need, or in case it's needed go into woods with deep mud, everyone love it here, reliable, fast on tarmack and comfy enough for a truck builded for workers, so not the best one for sure, but more than enough!
If the Iveco was more reliable and cheaper to fix with more power from maybe a V6 TD it would have my vote. The LC has proven itself as a much better reliable unit.
Well said.. 👍
The V8 in the LC isn't amazing for reliability though. Even a mediocre engine in the commercial space is going to be at least equal.
Thanks Australians !!!....indeed what a great 4x4 Iveco ......terrific truck !!!
Love your videos !!!!!
Great explaining !!!!!!
I will love to visit Australia someday .
What a beautiful Countey .
Love from Germany
Saw one of these fully kitted out in Tassie just on the weekend. Does look like a weapon of a vehicle. Had Queensland plates and looked setup for touring.
The Iveco was impressive.Awesome content as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
That thing is pretty awesome! Front coils would of helped, but probably would cause some limitations in payload. Leafs are good enough for this type of vehicle
About 3 months back you were looking into the 6x6 landcruiser option to which I thought was an interesting proposition. I made the suggestion to have a good look at an Iveco daily as they(in my opinion) are superior in comparison for an over land vehicle, all things considered. I'm very pleased you've had a drive and clearly 'you know you want one' that smile was constant behind the wheel, can't say the same with the 79 series. It's almost like toyota gave you half the vehicle but charged full price to which you then 'altered, improved, completed, added' your wants and needs to. The Iveco should be your next trade, you'll be a happy and a slightly fitter individual if you do. Great video as always, love your work.
While in military service in the early 80's, I owned and drove a Fiat Campagnola. It was a very reliable vehicle and we did lots of crazy offroad drives with it. Fiat and Iveco have very good engines, the rest is just as other cars/trucks, they need higher maintenance, if used hard.
There's no comparison between the old, reliable Fiats, and the new, unreliable Iveco with its multitude of design/strength issues.
Iveco is a company formed from an agglomeration of 5 Italian companies, and the tiny little 3 litre Iveco engine is notorious for electrical problems.
@@D375-h6v We had a company FIAT Doblo, did over 200.000km in one year, no problems at all. Most European campers have Fiat and Iveco engines, because they are reliable. Vans like Doblo Ducato,.. that drive around Europe are made in Turkey by Fiat Murat.
Motolover That was the time when Fiat was good no now .
Best thing that could happen to many people would be getting in and out 40-50 times a day. A go anywhere camper that keeps you in shape. I like it.
My mate has an Iveco and parts can be expensive and hard to get depending where you are sometimes
Bunch of SA expats having fun in Aus. Proud of you guys! Regards from Orania
I know this guy from our common Land Rover Defender days. Swapped out his Defender for a Daily 4x4. Had a bucket load of problems, but he was extremely inventive and came up with all sorts of work arounds to get it more reliable. Iveco Australia don't come out covered in glory whatsoever. Do a google for GoingBush and Iveco and you'll find his blog.
yer there no denying how good Don is with these trucks, he's done a bit of work to mine 👍
Mr whingy you mean......
Haha, being an Ex-landy owner(I still have mine), this Iveco repairings in the bush won’t be any problem for him...;-)))))
@@nathanruscoe4463 it would have been nice if Iveco took some of Don and Marcus ideas on board and improved the SCAM Daily rather than dropping it for the new Iveco model with independent front end, single reduction low range, significantly reduct gradient ability and more ability reducing changes. :-(
That said, issues aside Don still says the Daily is the most capable 4x4 of this nature ever made. Not perfect without a host of fixes, but impressive abilities.
Can only improve as it evolves. Glad to see you coming across so enthusiastic in your new adopted Country.
I was really hoping you would go for this one... Thanks for your review, now I want one!
Nice , I like it , we prefer much less air in the tires , it stops wheelspin ,and preserves the track much better , stops gullies from forming in your tracks !
Just the test I was looking for, and very, very helpful! I have been considering one of these vehicles for some time. I owned an Oka which required climbing up the wheel hubs to get into and out of, so I understand that aspect of daily use only too well. Hopefully, this unit would be considerably more reliable! Thanks for a great review. Totsiens!
Looks lveco have now gone to lFS on these trucks, a backward move in my eyes.
Man you are king,I’m really glad to watch you.Thanks.
Having driven a few, also the 2.3 no power model, this is generally a good off road capable vehicle...it's crash ratings are probably better than a 70 series too.
Really good review Andrew. I trust your opinion more than anyone else's when it comes to 4x4 vehicles. The shots using the drone is a treat when done properly and you sir, are the best at integrating those shots at just the right times.
Good review, keep this stuff coming for sure. I love seeing something other than a 79 series kitted out!
My old man owned 13 car yards in Vic, I lern't to drive when I was 7 years of age, moving cars around the lot (under direction). I've driven most models of every brand from 1950 to 2000 in Oz and I'd hazard to guess the amount of car's i've washed and/or detailed. Moved to WA in 2007 Drove heavy machinery on all types of dirt and now drive frieght trains, though I've been off from any work for the last 2 years due to illness.
Italian military been using these for quite a few years, just like the Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 used by the Swiss, Austrian and German militaries, Mountain search & rescue, police not including forestry departments as well as general utilities.
US military used Iveco/dodge/Renault variants on the European bases, even fully fitted motorhome is still 1/3rd the cost of a FORD F450 Overlander conversion, and then having crawler gears.! A perfect BUG OUT vehicle.!
When was the last time the Italian Army won a War?? The Italian Army has just reduced their chances of winning any future War, by buying Iveco 4x4's.
The Italian Army buys Iveco 4x4 simply because by doing so, they're supporting Italian and European industry, not because they're the best off-road 4WD.
D375
I don’t want to divert, but when was the last time any country won a war...?? Last war I know that there was an actual winner was the ‘67 war of Israel, before that was WWII, then go back to the Boer War and then 1776 independence war which was followed by the Spanish war, everything up today after ‘67 was settled or abandoned with no clear winner, and as all wars there’s never a winner due to the human cost not including the financial detriment.
But that’s enough of the war thing, but back to your Italians buying Italian, Britain bought landrovers, Germany France Austria Switzerland Holland Belgium Australia use Mercedes G wagons and the SAS & SBS services of the UK. The US used Humvees, Japan made there own version of the Humvee (Toyota) very similar just better, so meaning all countries will usually purchase their own country made vehicles due the the reasons you stated, besides the Iveco is a good vehicle due to the decent engineering of the transfer cases, axels and gearboxes, the engine is a generic PSA block used by various manufacturers, reliability is pretty good considering although I would’ve used a VM Motor, which is Italian so patriotic is still there but the robustness and reliability is outstanding with excellent power.
Land Rover made the UK military defender which actually shared none of the specifications of the civilian sibling, chassis, axels, electrics, but it was still unreliable like it’s civilian sibling...
@@D375-h6v uhmm let think ww1? The last time we win a war maybe open a book where I doesn't write on top Anglo wars propaganda is nice sometimes..
"I can't tell you if we win the next war, I can only tell you that we have only lost ww2 of so many dirty wars"
John Rambo
Better than a landcrusier in every way! Absolutely love it look at the room and ground clearance
I would like to see an offroad test between this Iveco and the smallest Unimog, I think it is the U20, long term reliability of the Unimog range is well known, not sure about the Iveco, but it does look like a highly capable vehicle and ideal for extended overland trips across rough terrain.
Great unbiased review APW.
Id love you to do a review on a VWT3 Syncro especially the suspension and 4wd system with front and rewr diff locks 🤞
Obviously the wade depth is wrong. Its 66 cms not 660cms. Is this a cheaper Unimog? It might look a bit similar, but no. The Mog is in a different class altogether. If the Unimog is a rocket-propelled grenade, then the Iveco is a pea-shooter.
Iveco daily = van
Unimog = tractor
Why even mention the Unimog?
Just don’t mention the electrical or suspension issues that appear on every iveco 4x4.....
@@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI Because dozens of comments are asking about it.
Probably the only time the words 'Unimog' & 'Rocket Propelled' have been in the same sentence.
The people comparing them are probably the same ones saying they knew this would be your next truck, despite clearly saying it won't be in the video..
That thing looks amazing and I would buy one in a heartbeat!!!
So happy that you've added the word "drive" to the intro.
I had one for 2 weeks as a test drive and I would have to agree with most of what this guy said. I too had one without any weight on the rear tray which caused alot of side to side roll when off road, I found it almost unbearable driving some 300kms truely off road and in harsh-ish environment. The constant side roll at around 20kms per hour was like being in a washing machine. Without a load I found it very light on the road with a tendency to drift and bounce at 100km per HR. More than capable off road machine, would need to really get used to the height to really find it's capabilities. It's a very capable machine, I compared the one I had to a 200 series fully set up wagon so that wasn't a fair comparison as the 200 is very nice off-road. If in the right environment with some good load on the back Of say this is a pretty amazing machine. I'd love one as a tourer.
Another incredible quality review. Thank you Andrew.
This is exactly the video test of this vehicle I wanted to watch. Thank you for making it.
This IVECO is a tool for work. Not for recreation.
And yes a UNIMOG is better but also bigger, more expensive and for most people overkill...
please do a build on this!! it looks like such an interesting vehicle for overland!! all the best bwana andrew.
Absolutely loved this video. The weird thing is I was just having a chat with my friend who is over on holiday in Oz right now. I was saying how I loved the Daily 4x4 and then 30 minutes later up comes this video in my newsfeed. Oddly enough despite him being a Patrion of yours, he had not seen the video. Hopefully this has put an end to his Sprinter plans and he gets a Daily instead!
I like the sprinter 4x4 but haven't seen enough offload to trust it's capabilities....
@@offroadingfoz another friend bought a 2wd Sprinter a few weeks back. He is converting it into a camper. Not so much for offroading or anything, but for a bit of comfort when he is mountain biking etc. Ive not seen it yet, but looking forward to it. A group of us are camping in 2 weeks time so hopefully he brings the van instead of his Defender 90, then I can bring my bus instead of my Disco. Its cold here in Ireland at this time of year.
I like the Sprinter 4x4 very much. Not as hard core off road as this, but is that your friend's priority? If its comfort and versatility, I think the Sprinter may be better. I'll be testing one in the US in July.
If you permit, just take a look at my last video's from the Pyrenees. I have a shortened Oberaigner Sprinter with permanent 4x4, good reduction and 3 diff locks. Before that I had a Discovery 4 and therefor a Discovery 2. My Sprinter does better than the Disco2, but just a bit less good than the Disco 4. The Disco 4 had a superb traction control, the short Sprinter lacks that. The Sprinter is multifunctional, good & fast on roads, has a very short turning radius and is good for overlanding. It is not for technical trials and it feels more scary when tilting sideways.
@@4x4overlandSprinter I will certainly have a look and sub to your channel also, gotta help each other out! We visited the Pyrenees in 2017, it was our first ever trip abroad. We only created Donegal Overlanding the year before because I wanted to make friends who liked camping with 4x4s and there was nothing overland related in Ireland. I've not even finished the series yet, I still have two more episodes to do. In the last video the terrain was quite rough, I doubt a Sprinter would have got down it. We were following a road book from a French guy, the company is called Vibraction.
I´ve driven a 20 year old "version" of that. 4x4 capabilities are no problem at all, especially if take in consideration that the weightier the truck, the slower you go. btw therefor it has slower/higher gearing.
I do see the higher Niveau of the seating/living area as a high benefit! Of course it takes more effort to get in, but nobody can look inside that easy, grab anything or so. It is a security and privacy benefit.
Depending on WHERE you travel a wider car/truck has a huge advantage in its width: You can sleep side wise in the back, enter via side or through the front seats! The back is always the dirtiest part of the truck.
Thanks for this review. I have always wanted a huge over landing vehicle and this really helped me weigh out the pros and cons. I appreciate your videos. Keep them coming.
I love it as a overlander road tripper adventurer, biest convert back into a sleeping amd living and cooking are but ya still got loads of room for tools and storage it is Great cozy, would be awesome
I came across one of those Ivecos with a camper on the back when I was trying to leave Edel Land (Steep point) in WA, where there’s a lot of narrow paths suitable for only one vehicle at a time and soft sand there are many many signs recommending people drop their tyre pressure to at least 20 PSI or lower to make their drive easier and to preserve the tracks for all users. The grey nomads driving this vehicle were partially stuck almost down to the hub on the rear axle, blocking my path for three reasons:
1) Serious attitude issues. Ignorant toward signs, didn’t book a camping spot in advance despite being a very popular site, destroying the track. One of them was very condescending and rude to us when we were helping them.
2) They didn’t lower their tyre pressures at all because one of them thought that ‘they didn’t need to’, so the wheels were cutting pretty deeply into the track
3) Despite owning the vehicle for an extended period, they did not know how to engage four wheel drive.
My friend and I pointed out that the effects of their current activity was disrespectful to the park and everyone using the track. Then we dug them out using my shovel, lowered their tyre pressures for them, showing them how to do so, figured out how engage four wheel drive and pointed them in the direction of where they needed to be. All the while one of them condescended us and argued every point (good thing the other was a keen learner and genuinely appreciative human being).
While I was doing all of that, I was inspecting the vehicle and gathered some thoughts about it which could be summarised as that it’s ‘a bit much’ and a bit unsuitable for these grey nomads in particular.
- The spare wheels are mounted quite high on the vehicle, on the rear at shoulder height for me as a 175cm tall man. They were also steel split rims and I expect they’re not light. If one of those wheels were required to be changed, I would hate to imagine what this nearly 70 year old man would do to his heart trying to just get the wheel off and change it.
- Split rims have been known to ‘let go’ when being reinflated which is why the majority of work places replace them with ROH sunraiser steel rims. This is dangerous and if you’re in a remote place like Andrew says this vehicle is capable of taking grey nomads, such a situation, even if unlikely, could unnecessarily happen and cause death that would have been otherwise completely avoidable.
- Grey Nomads often complain about fuel consumption, I can’t imagine it’s terribly good on fuel so they’d be blocking all the single lane double lined roads doing 80kph in 110 zones to conserve fuel.
- I think the vehicle is too complicated for ‘average’ people, like the ones I encountered, to use properly (you described two transfer cases and 18 forward gear ratios) because they can’t be bothered learning how to correctly use it, hence why they got stuck.
- As you mentioned the centre of gravity is quite high and someone not used to driving trucks may drive dangerously causing harm to themselves and others.
If for whatever reason a grey nomad was to purchase such a vehicle I think there should be some things that should be undertaken in advance.
- first aid training and carry a defibrillator - there’s no excuse, you’ve got the space for a kit and a defibrillator and if you can afford to buy such an expensive vehicle you can afford a cheap course and a defib.
- Learn how to use the vehicle properly so you don’t get stuck and block everyone’s way. It is a capable vehicle but a heavy vehicle, extracting you won’t be easy for people in a regular 4WD.
- Learn how to drive off road properly by at least practicing and getting tuition. It takes 1000s of hours in order to master things and build confidence.
- Drive the vehicle respectfully so you don’t tip over and don’t cause unnecessary stress on the track or vehicle.
- Replace the split rim wheels with something safer, it’s just not worth it.
- Have some sort of mechanical aid to help lift or lower the tyres. You might not ever need to change one, but you might need to, and as a grey nomad, you’re well past your physical prime, don’t stuff your back or give yourself a heart attack because help could be hours and hours away.
- If you choose to drive slowly, pull over and let everyone past you. A bit of humility and courtesy goes a long way.
Otherwise, I agree with everything Andrew says, it’s a very capable, large spacious vehicle that can afford you the ability to overland to very remote places in comfort, just think long and hard about it and be honest with yourself about your own capabilities.
I drive an Iveco for work, a big refrigeration Pantech often loaded with close to 4.5 tonne and duel tyres on the back it uses around 15 litres to 100k so not to much really one of these would be better
I love the old Defender 110 and am a huge fan of the 4x4 all day long but IVECO have made the best looking and most durable and desirable vehicle to build a camper on that is capable of very good off road and lets face it this one in the clip is factory standard, imagine a pimped up version.
Gotta love IVECO
One of the few ladder chassis van available still
Here in UK my company went thru tons of them Ivecos (not 4x4 but standard vans). I had once the gear knob staying in my hand after changing the gear. Other time the 2018 year production van just switched off completely during driving, good nothing was behind me. Plenty of electric issues in those. We went back to Mercedes-Benz vans for a better, reliable usage. Plus they loose a lot on value while Your Toyota if not stay on value it will gain it over time. Greetings and all the best.
You like that daily, imagine that as a van with a bed that rests in the roof, the space would be amazing, they can take up to 7 tonnes (not that you would go anywhere near that) what a fantastic vehicle Andrew?
I love the idea of this, a good compromise between a unimog and defender.
Great review with excellent information! Everyone will have their view on which truck / vehicle they wish to use... Fortunately Pure Offroad RV can build a light weight motorhome body on whatever you want... Especially for your New Iveco Daily 4x4!!
5:27 Oh look, it's got one of those light-weight 'get you home' type spare wheels :)))))
Amazing video and vehicle. Thanks Andrew. Probably the best for touring, and doing all the rough stuff throughout the world, and so convenient, but, height wise, totally unsuitable for taking around the bush. Still I don't really now Australia and the bush conditions there, but here in Africa, take some of the less travelled places in Zambia, i.e. Bellpoint Lusemfwa Gorge, Lusenga Plains ..., actually most out-of-the-way, 'overgrown places,' the bush is too low, even a GX80 Cruiser with a roofrack has to take care. As an Overlander though the Iveco looks brilliant.
It was really cool to see Botswana in this, and just FYI, it's Moremi! 😉
There are quite a few IVECO's that I've seen that were outfitted for the bush here in Bots, they're quite capable, the ones I've seen were made to be game viewers.
Great video btw!
Fabulous video, Mr. White! That would be great platform for a flatbed pop-up camper. Imagine the camper extending over the cab, and how much extra living space you could have! You could fit a jacuzzi to ease the daily pain of climbing in and out 30-40x/ day. With the lower profile, you would also be able to ship around the world in a high cube shipping container (~2.9m high; running 35” tires might allow you to fit in a standard container [2.6m H]). However, in the container, you might have to put camper end-to-end with the truck.
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It’s effing beautiful.
Iveco e forte sono lenti ma non ti lasciano mai affidabili ho avuto un 35-8 che posso dire complimenti continuate cosi
I was contemplating one of these until I started looking at long term review.... Which are poor at best. Most issue seem to be with customer support or lack of on Ivecos part.
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I would consider the 4x4 Mercedes Sprinter for overlanding. I think that would be a great start for a rig
Great video Andrew. Good to see your videos back on track with what we all enjoy.
Hi Andrew nice "Dream Machine" great for the Grey Nomads who want to do the likes of Cape Leveque or The Gibb River Road in comfort. Not the sort of thing I'd be using in the Australian bush or for an all round Overlander here. Be great in the likes of the Simson Desert or even the Canning Stock Route and would have lots off work space for video making. So I can see it's appeal for you; but on the likes of the Holland, the Woodline Track, or Googs. It's way to high, to wide and to long; you'd be taking out trees and low branches left, right and center. Those plackie doors on the side would likely get ripped off on the twisting tracks the likes of the Holland.To say nothing of scratching it to pieces on a lot of the coastal tracks down South or the telegraph track across the Bight. You'd face similar problems on the narrow twisting scrub tracks of the Kimberly. Be careful what you wish for. Regards from bigezi.
I think they are restricted from doing the Canning Stock Route actually.. I know that friends weren't allowed to do it in the OKA.
@@-paulmp They run 4X4 tour buses I think they are either Isuzu or HINO on the CSR, they are about 8 meters overall in length.
The section they are restricted from is one of the stations who doesn't even allow camper trailers etc, but there is a go-around track
that caters for them. In Andrews CSR videos he actually mentions them when deciding to make camp one evening, he did not want
to be at a particular well the rigs normally stop & camp at, you will see one similar to the ones used in the video.
Iveco is incredible and extremely reliable in the Congo during rainy season, so reliable everywhere lol
These trucks are awesome you see a alot of them getting around in Melbourne if i was to build a tourer id use one of these as a platform
The manufacturing plant is in Dandenong, I started there today lol
@@Sharkster32 is that on south gippy highway corner of abbots rd
Nah near the corner of the Gippy hwy and Princess Hwy.@@Hazardbone
I would 100% buy the Iveco before I’d buy any Toyota especially the LandCruiser.
To reduce the noise swap the MTs for ATs. It’s unlikely with that vehicle’s capability, that you’d need Muddies anyway.
When getting into the truck in the sand you should’ve used the handle on the A pillar. I notice they don’t have one above the door though.
I drove a 30 seater bus based on the iveco Daily with the same engine.
Nice, comfortable and easy to drive. But it was a bit underpowered for such a heavy vehicle (7,5 tons).
I drive an Iveco duel cab truck and also have a current model Pajero, around town and on long trips, I would prefer to drive my Iveco every day.
Other drivers just stay clear, the mirrors and general visebility are fantastic, servicing every 40K but I do it at 20K, the engine does not sound like a clattering Toyota diesel, it is super smooth, and they now use this engine in the Mercedes sprinter.
The only gripe is the harsh ride, otherwise I love it.
Really nice! I would like to see you driving a Unimog. 😃
Those two are my first option for a Camper!
After 5 years campaigning with Unimog 1 , a 1997 U1250, I'm now building Unimog 2 , a 1996 U2150 3.85 m chassis with CTIS and a Zeppelin box. Nothing made me consider a shiny new Iveco Daily...
Here in Europe the iveco Daily is verry popular. A lott of Overlanders buy this here, specialy in German overlanders. 2 friends of my owend one.
Interesting. I think I like Earthcruiser better though.
I know you hate Mitsubishi (for good reason after hearing the stories), but there's a small group of people who love making Mitsubishi Fuso/Canters into overlanders. Theyre bigger cabover trucks like this, I've seen them in short wheel base 5 seat cab configuration before like this.
I ended up going with a Delica L300, but I've driven a few of their larger cabover trucks as rentals for moving stuff around. Theyre fun to drive, and if I'd known they wouldnt be that much more expensive, I probably would have gotten one instead and done a sort of DIY earth roamer build. One big advantage they get is a solid front axle.
I guess one advantage of the delica is that, being even smaller than your typical American vanlifer (usually some variation of Sprinter or Promaster), and even smaller than similar vans like Econolines, it can hit tighter trails. And I didnt need to spend a ton of money on a 4x4 drivetrain swap, since a lot of USDM vans dont have that as a factory stock option.
One of this and never look back, just drive
The Iveco looks like an off-roading semi. It’s interesting - I feel like I shouldn’t like it, but I really like it’s basic beefy nature.
BRILLIANT! Really really good! 😉 great honest review.
The Diff articulation is pretty good for a vehicle with a front differential, significantly aided by what looks to be parabolic leaf springs, I put parabolic leaf springs and Monroe gas Magnum dampers on my old ex British military Series 3 109' Landy, it made a massive difference to the diff crossover in particular (no diff locks on the vehicle) amongst many other mods. It seems to be half way between a unimog and a land cruiser/Rover 130'. In my humble opinion and judging by the prices I'd look at a Swiss army surplus Steyr Pugh Pinzgauer 6×6, forward control layout, centre tubular chassis that incorporates the 3 centre pivoting diff's with lockers. You simply cannot beat Pinzgauer
IVECO, stands for:- I vibrate every component off!
I'm going to trade my Landcruiser at step up (virtually) to one of these.Awesome truck🙋♀️
To get in easily, put your right foot on the step and with your right hand grad the handle and swing your left foot in first, then your bum on the seat! rather easy once you get the hang of it. I have a mid size pick up (gmc canyon) with 2.8l turbo diesel, it outputs 180 hp for 370 pound of torque/feet, plenty for me really! 2,5 inch lift kit and 33'' tires give me 18'' clearance. I love my mini monster! ;)
@@postbreak ya the zr2 and canyon share same engines. what I love about it is the fact its a 4 banger so fuel consomption is way low, it costs me about $50 a week for about 400 to 500 km, but still have plenty of torque for off road!
almost every 4wd on the planet has at bare minimum 33 inch tyres and a 2 inch lift. That's basically a sedan in 4wd terms so I'm sure Andrew is more then aware of how to get in and out of sedans like that. If he is having trouble with the 37 inch tyres and big lift etc I'm sure its not due to a lack of experience getting in and out of lifted trucks. If he is struggling its not due to lack of technique I'm sure.
@@geoffclarke5901 are you Andrew! no than mind your own! if you saw the video assuming you are not just a FN troll, at one point he struggles getting in with a knee on the seat. what do you drive Mr. know it all!
And that's exactly how I have been getting in and out of trucks for most of my life... its not hard. ;)
Jp Jerome no obviously my name isn’t Andrew as denoted by..... my name🤦🏼♂️ does it matter what I drive? It’s a 4WD so it’s clearly going to be at bare minimum 33inch with 2 inch lift I think we can all agree all (or mostly all like excluding the people who don’t go off road) our four wheel drives are AT least that tall? But let’s not make this about me..... it’s about Andrew.... with his troopy that has a 2 inch lift and 33inch tyres and he has been getting in and out of thousands of times..... not to mention his previous experience with other vehicles..... and he has no problem getting in and out if it and others like it for the past 30 odd years.... the fact he struggled with the iveco suggests that the technique you suggested which he and everyone else uses (except for the odd retarded weirdo) to get in and out of a normal 4WD was clearly not making this vehicle comfortable enough.
If I’m wrong and Andrew is trying to reverse belly flop into the truck and your advice was something he somehow hadn’t picked up over the last 30 years or more then I apologise to you...... but I assume Andrew has at least moderate intelligence and if he says he doesn’t like getting in and out of the truck that technique is not the issue..... didn’t think that needed explaining! Tried to “dumb it down” and if you still can’t get it then I dunno I give up🤷🏼♂️ have a good one
Hi Andrew, great video. The Iveco should work for your intentions - call it specific project-based approach for a overseeable time frame. If you want to buy a vehicle for keeping and capable of maintaining over many years it won't have the desired longevity. For that pls keep the Troopy - fantastic. There are many blogs in German language on Iveco 4x4s from people who used Ivecos in all sorts of climates for Overlanding and overall feedback is good. But there are niggles and the overall quality of components is not as good as Toyota or Mercedes. But certainly same level as US products.
I would love to see you do a test on a Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 van to settle a long running debate about the best overlander in the UK
i don't believe the sprinter has much ground clearance thus not in the same league as the Iveco
iveco better than sprinter because he has a better ground clearance..sprinter for cities only
There are tons of 4x4 sprinters used as ambulance in rural Australia. @@thewhiteEagle
New 2019 Sprinter do not have diff-locs on axles anymore, only stupid traction control :-(
Andrew this looks like a hugely popular video, more of these please.