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The mog is basically a tractor on a truck chaises with a high speed gear box. It was made from the start to do hard agricultural work in difficult terrain, after it showed great results in that area the armies started using it.
The name says it all, there was no thought of military purposes at the beginning of the development of the vehicle. It was simply a "Uni(UNIversal) MoG (MOtor Gerät) and was developed for agricultural and forestry and municipal purposes. In addition, they also had three possible outputs at the front, the middle and at the rear. So you could have the Unimog built the way you wanted to use it. However, the portal axles are already an important part of the success, and the flexible frame is also conducive to increasing traction.
The design brief for the Unimog was identical to that of the original Land Rover: Something useful for the post-war farmer that can do almost any job on the farm. Both were first released in 1948. Both were later picked up by their respective armed forces.
The mog was born as an agricultural vehicle not as an army one. Iveco instead…has a military department. And the Iveco daily 4x4 might be the new VM90. The secret of the mog are the portal axel. Capable of wonders but also requiring lots of maintenance.
The unimog has been designed for this purpose. The other three are modified by both the manufacturer and the owners, to make them more capable. The tyre choice is one of the most telling features. Diameter and width. The mog tall and narrow ( comparatively to the others).
The Mog is in its own league. Always wanted one, but I am quite impressed with the other 3. They are all very capable - one just needs to know their limitations vs strengths.
Hands down the mog. Used it for many years during my Army days and couldnt wish for a more capable truck to go anywhere, crossed a flooded river once and the water was getting close to the bonnet lid. Amazing piece of kit
And you’ll not be surprised at this one mate, but the 40M is a cool looking truck but they’re really not fit for purpose like the MOG was. You have to get special permission to drive them on most roads in Aus as there’s too much weight spread between only 4 tyres!
😅 the way they put the "Final Boss" music on when the Unimog enters the stage. The Mog is like a fantasy character that put all his points in strength 😊
Great Video! I remember a comercial Video of the German Mercedes Truck Company ( Part of Mercedes Benz) They showed all the Big Trucks Like Zetros 4x4, 6x6 and an 8x8 Truck kliming hills and going off road. Some of the cameras where Recording from far up the hills. Later someone askes for the Mog, that was missing in the setup and the narrator sayed : well, who do you thought brought all the cameraequipment up those hills?! 😂
I was a mechanic in the Australian Army when the Unimog came into service. The "powers that be" decreed that the low pressure wide tyres (aka super singles, as shown in the video) that was an integral part of the torque tube suspension had to be ditched, and replaced with skinny "Dunlop Militaires". The same basic tyre fitted to the Internationals it replaced. Basically destroyed 80% of the off road capability in one foul swoop. They also mandated that the alternator be replaced with an in house version, 3 times the size, 4 times the weight. This meant you couldn't tilt the cab without first removing this boat anchor of an alternator.... which you couldn't get to without first tilting the cab partially. Typical of decisions made in the '80's by bureaucrats with no idea.
ECN229 I never removed the stupid 100amp hecterpolar alternator on cab lifts. I agree 💯 re the crap Dunlop tyres. Always dealing with idiots who would bend the throttle stop lever
Mogs are absolute beast mode engaged. They've been building the best all terrain trucks and ag equipment for decades. The other trucks are great for trail use. Mogs are built for going where there are no trails.
One thing to consider with the mog 8s that even if it had the same size tyres as the other trucks it has portal axles so its not as likely to get hung up on the diffs
Portals make a huge difference but we wouldn't;t mind seeing what the Iveco could do if it went from 37s to 40s and had around a quarter the weight on the rear 😜
@@4WDTVactually, the Mog was somewhat disadvantaged by the lack of weight on the back. Whilst lighter means you have better get up and go, and you are less likely to sink in soft surfaces, it also means you have less traction. That's why wheel weights for tractors and ballast boxes for heavy haulage trucks exist. More weight means more traction, as long as you have the engine power and gearing to make use of that traction. Without a load on the back, that Mog weights less then half of its designed operational weight.
weight can go both ways which is why most race cars (even off roaders and rock crawlers) aim for the lightest possible weight. So there are pros and cons for both. In the case of these two main obstacles seen in the video, weight was definitely a hindrance for the Iveco but you are right, wheel weights would have helped. There is also a great difference between sprung and unsprung mass.@@35manning
My grandpa was in the German army, as an engineer I think. He drove Unimogs on testing grounds of the army, he always showed me videos of it. He loves it for a reason.
Damn! Unimog any day of the week! That thing is a beast and simply unstoppable! If the Uni-Mog could talk it would say: “Oh, you think off-road is your ally. You merely adopted the trails; I was born on it, moulded by it. I didn’t see roads until I was a fully fledged beast, by then it was nothing to me but a walk in the park! The off-road trails betray you because they belong to me!”
And that shows the Differences between Trucks who look like real Offroader and a "Truck" who is a real Offroader. ;) Nice to see how a Unimog can impress around the World. Greetings from Germany. ✌
well it's not so straight forward but yes... The Isuzu is a very popular touring rig and definitely far more so than the Unimog. So when it comes to serious overloading in Australia, most will prefer the Isuzu
Great video, if not quite a fair comparison. The MOG and the Iveco both have front and rear lockers, the Isuzu and Hino don't. Lock them all up and it would make it more even, though of course, the MOG would still come out on top. Personally, Im still going for an Isuzu. Proven over many years, lots of aftermarket support (including front and rear lockers!) and you can buy parts anywhere due to Isuzu's extensive dealer network.
Mog also has Portals. My fav definitely the Mog from when I started to learn about them 10 years ago. Cant say the Isuzu out reliabilities the mog (is that a word?). expensive maybe but Merc still produce all the parts for all the mogs delivered to defence departments in the past. Those parts still made and delivered to whole world, can also be ordered direct.
Put a 2t load on the back of that mog it would bea much more comfortable ride. Spent many years teaching people to drive them. One of my most favourite vehicles.
We get what you are saying, but we also think that if you lightened the load on. that poor Iveco and added taller tyres, it would have been a much closer race 😜
@@4WDTV Yes, probably. But that was a stock mog with tires. Only lacking comfort and that's fixable (kinda). And hay, the mog is 35+ yo, hard to compare comfort between today and 35 years ago.
You can have all sorts of fancy crap you don't need. And go nowhere fast. Or you can have a Unimog. Go pretty much anywhere. And less to go wrong. As someone that hates modern cars. And the way they drive you. And tell you what to do. The Unimog has everything I would want.
Everybody praising the Mog (sure, a military-grade truck) and nobody praising the little Iveco Daily which passed all the tests without winches and without being a huge beast to drive around. Kudos to Iveco.
oh man, finally some one sees the truth! Imagine getting all that load off the back of the Iveco and setting it up on even just 40 inch tyres. I reckon the gap would close a bit.
Have been waiting for someone to do a test against all these types of vehicles.. Drivers will Play a big part in it, but it’s awesome to see the what’s and how’s in these types of situations. Awesome ! Thank you. Ever cross a single cap Iveco wrapped in matte in vic, that’s me ✌🏼
Portal axles for the win, I’d fit a separator plow in front of the differential. Maybe on hydraulics? Also thinking a hydraulic lifter on the frame could come in handy for recovery.
Definitely am in hope to see more of these convoys bashing through the bush and anything else .. enjoyed this being an owner myself of one. Cheers guys
I drove a 67 Unimog that my boss and I made road legal for Canada. I got to 'loosen it up' for a week, it had been parked for some time. It was an amazing offroader. Everyone I took with me offroading said it rode like a Caddy. It went everywhere I pointed it. I wish I would have had the 20 grand to buy one at the time.
it is a wicked machine alright. Did everything far too easily. The Iveco was a good second but with bigger tyres and unloaded it would have been far closer.
So…here’m my thoughts. The winner is the iveco, hands down! The Unimog is a BEAST! And I have one…so! Yeah. But the mog have so many other limits. They are meant to pull so not much for overland camper as so many think. The portal axels are all mighty but require A LOT of maintenance! There is the need to grease them constantly! And on the road the consumption of diesel is very high, cos of the portal axel and the massive tires. The Iveco is capable to carry more weight on the chassis then the mog. In most of Europe we can drive it with a license B (while the Mog or the other 2 trucks require a C-C1 - except Germany). The Iveco also is more highway drivable so great also for move between locations. The other 2 trucks are just trucks. Incredible capable but not like the 2 other beasts.
Spot on mate! If it is just about the off roading, the Mog is the winner, but taking other things into account, the Iveco really shines. Could you imagine if we had 40s on the Iveco and no weight on the back?
No, the Unimog is a clear winner, it has much better cross-country ability and reliability than Iveco or other trucks. Its consumption on the highway is higher due to the large mass, as well as the cargo gears in the axles that are installed in most models, but if you install high-speed gears, the consumption is significantly reduced. It is often necessary to lubricate the components there only when used in mud and swamps, and this is a plus, since the components are much more durable; on land offroad, lubrication is often not required, and in the swamp of the Iveco with its modest ground clearance and small wheels there is nothing to do at all.
@@ИгорьМельник-т7т i can tell that your knowledge about Iveco is quite scarse. Iveco’s are actually very reliable and can carry far more weight then a Unimog, but not pull. On an overlanding point of view it is better already. The portal axel require more maintenance on any case, actually more on highway cos aren’t meant to be driven at higher speed (by higher I mean 100/110 km/h). The portal axel are immense strong, capable and marvelous if used as intended. That means: off-roading. What you mean for cross-country, im not sure. But if you mean overlanding, the answer is easy: NO. Maybe the new Unimog can do that but the new EURO6 gave some issues. The consumption isn’t about the schnell gearbox but the use of 47” and a weight that is around 5-7t vs 38”-40” with a weight of 3-3.5. Unimogs also require License C in 99% of Europe, don’t know in Australia. I own a Unimog and I know a lot about it. I don’t own an Iveco but I’m looking for a VM90 (born for the army) and I wish I could get the new Daily 4x4. Far cheaper in price and maintenance than a mog. Unimog are born for do a great job and that only. Aren’t born for over-landing much.
@@veequency5609 I know Iveco cars very well, they are much less reliable than Unimogs and many Mercedes in particular. We're not discussing regular commercial vehicles, we're talking specifically about all-terrain vehicles. Iveco should be compared not with Unimog, but with Mercedes Vario or T2 of the previous model, Iveco is worse in everything, these Mercedes can withstand gigantic overloads and transport even 9 tons of cargo without breakdowns with a rated load capacity of about 3.5. tons for many years without any breakdowns. Iveco is very, very inferior to such machines. Iveco, perhaps, can only be compared with a 4x4 sprinter, the reliability of which is much lower than that of the Vario/T2. A Unimog is an all-terrain vehicle capable of transporting cargo not on the highway, but in very difficult off-road conditions. This particular model has a total weight of 12 tons and is one of the heaviest Unimog series. As for speed, all Unimogs have traction and high-speed gears, so this particular model with high-speed gears and 47-inch tires has a maximum speed of 117 km per hour, and a comfortable speed of up to 100-105 kilometers per hour. hour. And on lighter models these gears are even faster. Consumption is also directly related to what gears are in the axles; With high gears, fuel consumption on the highway is significantly reduced. I'm not interested in the new Unimogs, they are stuffed with electronics and are no longer as reliable. Among the unimog models with mechanical engines, there are enough of them for every taste: heavy and light, economical and heavy-duty, so looking at all sorts of EURO 6 is not interesting, I am not interested in such cars
It probably still wouldn't have performed a well as the Mog, because it would be heavier. Granted the Mog is kinda cheating here by just having a flatbed.
LOL. One of them really would catch every eye on the track. Might be a bit hard on the tracks though :) Most photographed vehicle doing gunshot Cape York?
@@TheRaptor1967 If by "tracks" you mean the metal/rubber component - unlikely. If by "tracks" you mean the route through the forest, again limited as the tank's ground pressure is lower than a person's spread along the entire surface in contact with the ground, as opposed to the four small areas where the truck tyres are in contact with the ground.
That was an amazing showdown. The Mog just dominated even without any weight in the back, which was expected given the bigger tyres and portals. However, the Iveco is the GOAT for me. Did amazingly well loaded up. Cheers for the showdown guys 👍
Thank you mate. We reckon bigger tyres on the Iveco an less load on the rear would even things up a bit. When it comes to an all rounder though, the Iveco is a beast!
@@4WDTV - Yeah, supply (in Australia at least) from Pickles and the like won't last forever. Also I think Once the ADF finish selling them off, the private price will start going up. :(
Mog in a league of it's own in the mud and up a scramble, but also outnof it's league at autobahn speed. Highway show down of the same set would be interesting viewing.
It was good to see the 3 top selling 4 x 4 trucks on the market battle it out, and then came the unimog lol. Would on loved a quick spec sheet for a comparison. and also to see them 3/4's loaded up. After all who goes up the bush empty. Were the tyres pressure set at different pressure for all trucks? did any have an exhaust brake? and who had power dividers, rear diff locks and or front diff locks. But cheers still good to watch.
After watching, I must say, that YES, the vehicle part is very awesome. But each Person and what they do, was EQUALLY great. I saw great Friendship and Help to each other. I applaud you all. One thing in regard of electric 4x4 and such. Be CAREFULL.
The way i keep re-watching 4wd Tv videos over and over just makes me want to push hard, move to Australia someday to come and have fun with you guys😅😅💯💯
Yeah I was going to move to Australia. In 1996. Then that stupid gun ban happened. I literally had my home up for sale when that happened. Was a close one. But I will never sacrifice my 2A. So America is where i stayed.
Gun ban? Our firearms were never banned. We do plenty of gun content and we just received our 10th rifle. Will have a new video on that one shortly. We did though get some firearms restrictions, specifically on semi auto ownership but there are ways around it and there are still plenty in civilian hands@@robsdeviceunknown
There all pretty incredible rigs mate it’s a whole other level of expensive to buy and fix the inevitable busted stuff though ,very cool vid man hope ya well cheers
Unimog. Most fun and a beast of a vehicle. No matter what you throw at it, it endures. I remember having to hill start a mog for weeks on end, because the solenoid was cactus. Can be done in reverse too, that was pretty hairy.
The Mog is a totally different league. A Russian TATRA may be able to keep up but bare in mind a UNIMOG was developed as a TRACTOR. If you’re impressed by the LWB, you need to see a SWB with traction tyres. They will literally claw their way almost anywhere. I’m partial to the SWB as my Uncle had one of the first in New Zealand, if not the first. Total domination of terrain. Bonus front and rear pto outputs and 3 point linkage
Would have been nice to see a iveco eurocargo 4x4 and a Mitsubishi canter 4x4 and sice your done old milatary trucks it would also be nice to see a internatanal acco 4x4
@@4wdieebroncos acco's are a range of trucks internatanal made here in Australia some were for the military in 4x4 or 6x6 they also made 4x2 4x6 4x8 also iveco made some acco's as well
The Mog is a piece of kit in its own right. It's made ab factory to be getting the job done. The others would need customization to be like the Unimog. On top of that you can be getting an Unimog factory made to be even more capable. With factory support. An Unimog doesn't come cheap - if you're not into the extreme - moneywise the others are great alternatives.
yes, almost a league of it's own! But it would be interesting to see how the Iveco went with even just 40 inch tyres and no weight on the rear. It is extremely capable from factory too.
yes those 47s are a distinct advantage. It would be interesting to see how much the gap could be closed if the Iveco had just 40s and a much lightened payload@@chantelanning6761
All are awesome Trucks!! Awesome trails. And yeah portal axle helps a lot. There is a Russian Manufactory where builds a lot portal axle for different Cars
Great and timely video. I currently tow my travel trailer (caravan) with an International 4700 LP. It is a great rig but only rear wheel drive and low profile. My new trailer is an Imperial Outdoors X 195. Lots of off road capabilities. I want a tow rig that will handle rough roads and still tow a 5 ton trailer. I have always loved the Unimog.
No idea sorry. Where was the Canter? We ran the vehicles as we had them. It wasn't possible to have them all locked or on the same size tyres, let along in the state state of loaded. But we had a fun time trying.
I have been a Unimog owner for about 15 years now and I also collect US Military trucks and belong to both a state and a world wide military truck collectors group and we generally every summer go on an off road excursion every year a lot of the times is on logging trails in MN. Its always fun and always the same thing as far as trucks making it through the muck and the Mog is always so much more capable in this stuff I mean to the point of the other trucks are running in low range 6x6 and in the Mog I am in 3 rd gear and havent even engaged the 4x4 yet! Its a different class of truck!
I don't need to guess. First by far is the UNIMOG, then Iveco, the others are about equal Street Vehicles with 4x4. The U and I are Military tested for many Decades
Excellent video guys, all trucks were impressive, the Iveco was better than I expected but the Hino and Isuzu were impressive for what they are - the Mog is just another leve. It would be interesting to fit portal axles to the Ivecol, I think that would compete head to head with the Mog then.
The trucks you guys drive over there are awesome! I can’t think of any trucks we have that fill the gap between Semi-Trucks and typical Heavy Duty trucks like a Ford F350, F450 or RAM or Chevy 3500 or 4500 trucks. There are flatbed tow trucks but nothing as fun as what you guys have going on in this video.
It's great to see a review of these trucks doing more than touring tracks. If you're considering any of these trucks, consider investing the difference in the price of purchase into a Unimog you get a 100kph+ on-road capable truck with all the modern features of the rest. Japanese dual cab 4x4 trucks cost from $80-100k secondhand with Super singles, Iveco Dual cab cost $90 - 120k secondhand. Now buy a Mog at auction for $30k and invest the difference of $50-90k in maintenance and comfort and you have a road-friendly supersized 4x4. The only down side from there is it will only be a single cab.
Some mogs were optioned with hi speed diffs, think that gives 65mph, oversize tyres like 395 miicheli or 425 continental give the same, standard gearbox can also have working group gears and crawler gears
Loved the video guys Only one problem. A Spec sheet would have been nice. Also Spec of all the trucks. Example weight and how many gears. Engine power and rev control
Yeah there are so many things we could have added, heaps of people want different things so we just tried to keep it simple and really just wanted an excuse to get these beasts all out for the day.
First thing that I noticed on the Hino and Iveco, that they seemed to have "street-driving" tire pressure, surely no help on the slippery rocks, but just generally a bad plan!
ah ok, not sure what the signed were mate but road pressures on the Iveco are 60PSI and on that day it was running 15PSI. The Hino went down to 18 but not sure what pressure he runs on road. We can though guarantee that 15 and 18 are not suitable road pressures for either truck 😁
being raised on a farm and with a unimog in the barn you learn to appreciate the power of big tires on offroad trucks. a unimog will go up a hill if you make it. all the features make it almost too easy. portal axles give you so much clearance and the huge tires make climbing up things aswell as keeping traction incredibly easy. The other trucks are really cool too, dont get me wrong, but ill never settle for anything less than a unimog myself.
Hi guys great episode I've just recently gotten into these trucks and all the set up recently I knew the mog had a big chance to win these obstacles but to be fair with the other trucks to me it a matter of finding their sweet spots and how they perform I love my 4wdriving haven't been for a while as I got a soon to be 4 yr old boy and a 1 year old daughter which I hope they can get into camping and 4wdriving one day but for now where I live in Queensland I'm up near the pine forests so I stick to mild tracks to slowly introduce 4wdriving to my boy it's still keeps my dream alive driving my 05 105 cruiser, looking forward to the next episode
As someone who has done a reasonable amount of convoy driving behind the wheel of a mog. Only real gripe I had with it was the struggled to keep up with the rest of the convoy doing 100 km/h out on the blacktop. That was more what spec the Army bought, over the vehicle itself. But as is plain to see, mog shits all over the other units in the vid once you get off road. Some of the mogs Army bought had a front mount winch.
First of all it was fun watching, 2nd Mog Is a different Thing . Other 3 Did Good , But HINO Was empty Bedded . It was not Getting grip on the Rear , Obvious. That's Why it needed Tow on every Obstacle Almost.
Nah, Dakar trucks are not designed to handle off-road like this. They're built for high-speed rallying. Stock Kamaz will be better there. But in this class of trucks you should compare a GAZ-66, it can be a good competitor to Unimog.
glad you are joking as anyone with any experience knows that all three of these smaller rides are far faster and more comfortable on the bitumen. The Unimog is king of the tracks but it's a slow horrible ride to get anywhere and to get home. Then again, fit slightly larger tyres to the Iveco and considerably lighten the load in the back, and that would be a far closer competition off road. The fact is that the Iveco is super capable off road but leaves the Mog for dead when it comes to touring and comfort, let alone a modern fit out. 😁
no mention of: average fuel consumption, truck price new and used, will it sit at 110kph, engine size, gearbox info, country of origin, fuel consumption on day, engine power, service intervals, service costs, parts availability, depreciation, weight, towing capacity, length and width, truck or car licence, insurance prices, aftermarket parts, clubs, sales figures, do emergency services use them, pros and cons, interior quality, build quality, reputation, seats, dashboards, rpm at 110kph, 2 seater or 4 seater options, do mines use them- why/why not, tyre life, tyre costs, tyre PSI, turning radius, height
360 did the transfer case and Rugged Brakes did the brake upgrade. The biggest thing we did though can't be mentioned publicly but it has made a huge difference to the reliability 😜@@Expedition_Tranquilo
In the US the Unimog is out there - in various configurations, but only 2WD Hino’s and Isuzu’s are here on box truck chassis. Iveco has faded away here. FedEx used their little box trucks in the early days. I watch the annual Dakar Rally and marvel at the big 4WD monsters which drive it.
I liked the part where they told us absolutely nothing at all about the trucks, and what makes them different or any kind of comparison for off roading usage. But at least they managed to get in at least half dozen adverts in there
Geez you were thorough with your watching then thank you. The Iveco is featured almost every week on the show, we have had it for four years and the the others were pretty much just standard apart from tyres. The only real difference was the front lockers and tyre size but most of that was mentioned during the episode. Thank you for watching 😁
@@4WDTV it was more as a stand alone video comparing them. Didn't mention anything more technical. Engine, low ranges, Axel types. Everyone knows a unimog has portals and that's about as much as you go into it in Terms of a comparison. Good filming and video, very much 4wd 24/7 style. I just wanted and was expecting more about the actual machines. And less of an advert promoting goods, also a 24/7 gripe
well we just think this is a great excuse to go back and shoot the video again but cover all the aspects of the vehicles! Great idea thank you@@astromarky123
Question from an amateur, what's the track damage after these trucks have been through compared to reg size 4x4s. I can imagine if these vehicles become more popular they will tear tracks apart that a standard vehicle with 4 inch lifts, lockers and 35s will end up struggling.
it is actually the opposite. In most cases they are more capable and do far less damage. Put is this way, a bigger tyre has a greater rolling diameter and a much bigger footprint so the impact on the terrain is far less. Not only does it present with far less pounds per square inch of force on the ground, it offers far greater traction and rolls up a dover things with much greater ease. hence there is less need to drive aggressively. All the track damage we encountered was from two things, much smaller vehicles and the main cause; storm water. Anyone who spends time in the outdoors knows that rain water does far more damage to the terrain than vehicles could ever do. These vehicles are already popular, there are plenty getting around and my final point is because of the bigger wheel track and wheel base, they typically get up and over obstacles more easily as they don't sit in the major dug out areas caused by smaller vehicles. There are always exceptions to the case but it is all about being a responsible driver and these vehicles had far less impact on these tracks compared to what four smaller cars with smaller tyres and less capability would have done. 😁
As an American, I always just assume America has the biggest stuff. Trucks especially. Then the Aussie 4x4 channel pops up and makes the f150 feel small. I don't know what y'all are doing down there but if you could ship some more Umogs and 59 series landcruisers stateside we'd appreciate it
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why not Fuso truck as well just wondering
we had four spots available and none of our mates had a Fuso 😁@@crunchied8
Better try an OKA
A mog is a completely different class of vehicle. There was never a contest
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I know right. I was thinking about similar trucks to the unimog and I realised there wasn't any. Portal axles are epic.
Matching tire with the other trucks would have pushed this point further, same results is my guess.
The mog has had about 70 years of development in armies around the world,not to be underestimated.
The mog is basically a tractor on a truck chaises with a high speed gear box. It was made from the start to do hard agricultural work in difficult terrain, after it showed great results in that area the armies started using it.
@@thesayxxand forrestry. Also its long been in use by towns with all the addons, itl do fine in mines....
The name says it all, there was no thought of military purposes at the beginning of the development of the vehicle. It was simply a "Uni(UNIversal) MoG (MOtor Gerät) and was developed for agricultural and forestry and municipal purposes. In addition, they also had three possible outputs at the front, the middle and at the rear. So you could have the Unimog built the way you wanted to use it. However, the portal axles are already an important part of the success, and the flexible frame is also conducive to increasing traction.
The design brief for the Unimog was identical to that of the original Land Rover: Something useful for the post-war farmer that can do almost any job on the farm. Both were first released in 1948. Both were later picked up by their respective armed forces.
The mog was born as an agricultural vehicle not as an army one.
Iveco instead…has a military department.
And the Iveco daily 4x4 might be the new VM90.
The secret of the mog are the portal axel. Capable of wonders but also requiring lots of maintenance.
The unimog has been designed for this purpose. The other three are modified by both the manufacturer and the owners, to make them more capable. The tyre choice is one of the most telling features. Diameter and width. The mog tall and narrow ( comparatively to the others).
nope. the mog was invented as a tractor an was modified afterwards.
@@Spatzenterroryeah, it was invented as a tractor, and offroad vehicle, while the others are designed as road trucks
It was the only one that was carrying only itself
@@Spatzenterror yeah, which is why its so good
its literally designed to be able to replace tractors
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The Mog is in its own league. Always wanted one, but I am quite impressed with the other 3. They are all very capable - one just needs to know their limitations vs strengths.
it was a fun day for all. Would be great to see how the Iveco would go with 40 inch tyres and no weight in the back.
Hands down the mog. Used it for many years during my Army days and couldnt wish for a more capable truck to go anywhere, crossed a flooded river once and the water was getting close to the bonnet lid. Amazing piece of kit
no doubt they are awesome
And you’ll not be surprised at this one mate, but the 40M is a cool looking truck but they’re really not fit for purpose like the MOG was. You have to get special permission to drive them on most roads in Aus as there’s too much weight spread between only 4 tyres!
still sound interesting, would be good to see them in action@@Revheadrev
😅 the way they put the "Final Boss" music on when the Unimog enters the stage. The Mog is like a fantasy character that put all his points in strength 😊
Great Video! I remember a comercial Video of the German Mercedes Truck Company ( Part of Mercedes Benz) They showed all the Big Trucks Like Zetros 4x4, 6x6 and an 8x8 Truck kliming hills and going off road. Some of the cameras where Recording from far up the hills. Later someone askes for the Mog, that was missing in the setup and the narrator sayed : well, who do you thought brought all the cameraequipment up those hills?! 😂
haha, that is outstanding! That you for sharing!
Hands up who’s watching just to see how much better the unimog is than the others
it's an awesome vehicle alright
I was a mechanic in the Australian Army when the Unimog came into service.
The "powers that be" decreed that the low pressure wide tyres (aka super singles, as shown in the video) that was an integral part of the torque tube suspension had to be ditched, and replaced with skinny "Dunlop Militaires". The same basic tyre fitted to the Internationals it replaced.
Basically destroyed 80% of the off road capability in one foul swoop.
They also mandated that the alternator be replaced with an in house version, 3 times the size, 4 times the weight. This meant you couldn't tilt the cab without first removing this boat anchor of an alternator.... which you couldn't get to without first tilting the cab partially.
Typical of decisions made in the '80's by bureaucrats with no idea.
We feel you bro! Good old corporates making decisions that help no one!
ECN229 I never removed the stupid 100amp hecterpolar alternator on cab lifts. I agree 💯 re the crap Dunlop tyres.
Always dealing with idiots who would bend the throttle stop lever
Soldiers Could Have Reversed the decisions ..if they had balls
Bureaucrats should get their hands dirty more often.
Mogs are absolute beast mode engaged. They've been building the best all terrain trucks and ag equipment for decades. The other trucks are great for trail use. Mogs are built for going where there are no trails.
That is a great way of looking at it!!!
There are plenty of Czech & Russian trucks that would eat mog's all day every day
no doubt, but we don't have those in Australia sorry@@aussiebevo103
@@aussiebevo103 well, they at least play in the same league. Eat it? depends on the specific Task you want done.
@4WDTV yeah I know mate. Would be cool if we did though
One thing to consider with the mog 8s that even if it had the same size tyres as the other trucks it has portal axles so its not as likely to get hung up on the diffs
Portals make a huge difference but we wouldn't;t mind seeing what the Iveco could do if it went from 37s to 40s and had around a quarter the weight on the rear 😜
@@4WDTVactually, the Mog was somewhat disadvantaged by the lack of weight on the back.
Whilst lighter means you have better get up and go, and you are less likely to sink in soft surfaces, it also means you have less traction.
That's why wheel weights for tractors and ballast boxes for heavy haulage trucks exist.
More weight means more traction, as long as you have the engine power and gearing to make use of that traction.
Without a load on the back, that Mog weights less then half of its designed operational weight.
weight can go both ways which is why most race cars (even off roaders and rock crawlers) aim for the lightest possible weight. So there are pros and cons for both. In the case of these two main obstacles seen in the video, weight was definitely a hindrance for the Iveco but you are right, wheel weights would have helped. There is also a great difference between sprung and unsprung mass.@@35manning
My grandpa was in the German army, as an engineer I think. He drove Unimogs on testing grounds of the army, he always showed me videos of it.
He loves it for a reason.
Damn! Unimog any day of the week! That thing is a beast and simply unstoppable! If the Uni-Mog could talk it would say:
“Oh, you think off-road is your ally. You merely adopted the trails; I was born on it, moulded by it. I didn’t see roads until I was a fully fledged beast, by then it was nothing to me but a walk in the park! The off-road trails betray you because they belong to me!”
Awesome comparison and content. It was also good to see the Unimog from my old unit absolutely killing it. Bloody good trucks in the bush.
they are amazing for sure!!!
Nice to see these 4wd trucks together being tested we need more of this
was definitely a fun episode rot shoot.
Yes, it is good to see the best of the best compete.
still ore trucks to test, more fun!!!@@fredfred4086
And that shows the Differences between Trucks who look like real Offroader and a "Truck" who is a real Offroader. ;)
Nice to see how a Unimog can impress around the World.
Greetings from Germany. ✌
well it's not so straight forward but yes... The Isuzu is a very popular touring rig and definitely far more so than the Unimog. So when it comes to serious overloading in Australia, most will prefer the Isuzu
Pleasant bunch of lads enjoying themselves. Wholesome
Well thank you very much. it was just about getting out and having some fun...and we did!
Liked just for the thumbnail alone even before watching. Perfect! How it should be!
The Mog is a killer!!!
"EGT Glazing uses work truck for family trips"
Writes the ATO 😂😂😂
marketing opportunities 😜
You should see what the smaller U1300L Unimog can do when fitted with worker group gears.
We would love to
@@4WDTV come up to the territory next dry season and I show you
sounds like fun. Is it too big for the mud holes out near Howard Springs 😜@@andrefischer5025
@@4WDTV I said “dry Season”? Did I 😂?
nah nah, we didn't see that at all 😂😂😂@@andrefischer5025
Great video, if not quite a fair comparison. The MOG and the Iveco both have front and rear lockers, the Isuzu and Hino don't. Lock them all up and it would make it more even, though of course, the MOG would still come out on top.
Personally, Im still going for an Isuzu. Proven over many years, lots of aftermarket support (including front and rear lockers!) and you can buy parts anywhere due to Isuzu's extensive dealer network.
Mog also has Portals. My fav definitely the Mog from when I started to learn about them 10 years ago. Cant say the Isuzu out reliabilities the mog (is that a word?). expensive maybe but Merc still produce all the parts for all the mogs delivered to defence departments in the past. Those parts still made and delivered to whole world, can also be ordered direct.
Put a 2t load on the back of that mog it would bea much more comfortable ride. Spent many years teaching people to drive them. One of my most favourite vehicles.
We get what you are saying, but we also think that if you lightened the load on. that poor Iveco and added taller tyres, it would have been a much closer race 😜
@@4WDTV Yes, probably. But that was a stock mog with tires. Only lacking comfort and that's fixable (kinda).
And hay, the mog is 35+ yo, hard to compare comfort between today and 35 years ago.
That's true. We need to see what the newer Mogs are like!@@TheRaptor1967
That is to much load.
Unimogs started as a tractor with a cab on road use was secondary, after that they got better.
The tractor part was always primary in the design of the mog. Even to this day.
Enjoyed seeing these houses on wheels taken up offroad tracks much more than i thought i would.
well thank you for giving it a go!
You can have all sorts of fancy crap you don't need. And go nowhere fast. Or you can have a Unimog. Go pretty much anywhere. And less to go wrong. As someone that hates modern cars. And the way they drive you. And tell you what to do. The Unimog has everything I would want.
Everybody praising the Mog (sure, a military-grade truck) and nobody praising the little Iveco Daily which passed all the tests without winches and without being a huge beast to drive around. Kudos to Iveco.
oh man, finally some one sees the truth! Imagine getting all that load off the back of the Iveco and setting it up on even just 40 inch tyres. I reckon the gap would close a bit.
Have been waiting for someone to do a test against all these types of vehicles..
Drivers will
Play a big part in it, but it’s awesome to see the what’s and how’s in these types of situations.
Awesome ! Thank you.
Ever cross a single cap Iveco wrapped in matte in vic, that’s me ✌🏼
We fortunately had some very experienced drivers for this one!
Portal axles for the win, I’d fit a separator plow in front of the differential.
Maybe on hydraulics?
Also thinking a hydraulic lifter on the frame could come in handy for recovery.
sounds like some great ideas!!!
Definitely am in hope to see more of these convoys bashing through the bush and anything else .. enjoyed this being an owner myself of one.
Cheers guys
we loved making this episode!
I drove a 67 Unimog that my boss and I made road legal for Canada. I got to 'loosen it up' for a week, it had been parked for some time. It was an amazing offroader. Everyone I took with me offroading said it rode like a Caddy. It went everywhere I pointed it. I wish I would have had the 20 grand to buy one at the time.
that would have been awesome!
Iveco is fantastic for its price. A modern, safe, versatile and easy to drive 4x4 monster.
You are right there! It is super comfortable and easy to drive. A real pleasure.
LETS GOOOOOOO THE MOOOOOG! DOMINATED the tracks, in a tug of war it'd break all the others combined
it is a wicked machine alright. Did everything far too easily. The Iveco was a good second but with bigger tyres and unloaded it would have been far closer.
So…here’m my thoughts.
The winner is the iveco, hands down!
The Unimog is a BEAST! And I have one…so! Yeah.
But the mog have so many other limits.
They are meant to pull so not much for overland camper as so many think.
The portal axels are all mighty but require A LOT of maintenance!
There is the need to grease them constantly!
And on the road the consumption of diesel is very high, cos of the portal axel and the massive tires.
The Iveco is capable to carry more weight on the chassis then the mog.
In most of Europe we can drive it with a license B (while the Mog or the other 2 trucks require a C-C1 - except Germany).
The Iveco also is more highway drivable so great also for move between locations.
The other 2 trucks are just trucks. Incredible capable but not like the 2 other beasts.
Spot on mate! If it is just about the off roading, the Mog is the winner, but taking other things into account, the Iveco really shines.
Could you imagine if we had 40s on the Iveco and no weight on the back?
The Iveco with 40s would have jumped over the obstacles!
No doubt on that!
No, the Unimog is a clear winner, it has much better cross-country ability and reliability than Iveco or other trucks. Its consumption on the highway is higher due to the large mass, as well as the cargo gears in the axles that are installed in most models, but if you install high-speed gears, the consumption is significantly reduced. It is often necessary to lubricate the components there only when used in mud and swamps, and this is a plus, since the components are much more durable; on land offroad, lubrication is often not required, and in the swamp of the Iveco with its modest ground clearance and small wheels there is nothing to do at all.
@@ИгорьМельник-т7т i can tell that your knowledge about Iveco is quite scarse.
Iveco’s are actually very reliable and can carry far more weight then a Unimog, but not pull.
On an overlanding point of view it is better already.
The portal axel require more maintenance on any case, actually more on highway cos aren’t meant to be driven at higher speed (by higher I mean 100/110 km/h).
The portal axel are immense strong, capable and marvelous if used as intended.
That means: off-roading.
What you mean for cross-country, im not sure.
But if you mean overlanding, the answer is easy: NO.
Maybe the new Unimog can do that but the new EURO6 gave some issues.
The consumption isn’t about the schnell gearbox but the use of 47” and a weight that is around 5-7t vs 38”-40” with a weight of 3-3.5.
Unimogs also require License C in 99% of Europe, don’t know in Australia.
I own a Unimog and I know a lot about it.
I don’t own an Iveco but I’m looking for a VM90 (born for the army) and I wish I could get the new Daily 4x4. Far cheaper in price and maintenance than a mog.
Unimog are born for do a great job and that only. Aren’t born for over-landing much.
@@veequency5609 I know Iveco cars very well, they are much less reliable than Unimogs and many Mercedes in particular. We're not discussing regular commercial vehicles, we're talking specifically about all-terrain vehicles. Iveco should be compared not with Unimog, but with Mercedes Vario or T2 of the previous model, Iveco is worse in everything, these Mercedes can withstand gigantic overloads and transport even 9 tons of cargo without breakdowns with a rated load capacity of about 3.5. tons for many years without any breakdowns. Iveco is very, very inferior to such machines. Iveco, perhaps, can only be compared with a 4x4 sprinter, the reliability of which is much lower than that of the Vario/T2. A Unimog is an all-terrain vehicle capable of transporting cargo not on the highway, but in very difficult off-road conditions. This particular model has a total weight of 12 tons and is one of the heaviest Unimog series. As for speed, all Unimogs have traction and high-speed gears, so this particular model with high-speed gears and 47-inch tires has a maximum speed of 117 km per hour, and a comfortable speed of up to 100-105 kilometers per hour. hour. And on lighter models these gears are even faster. Consumption is also directly related to what gears are in the axles; With high gears, fuel consumption on the highway is significantly reduced. I'm not interested in the new Unimogs, they are stuffed with electronics and are no longer as reliable. Among the unimog models with mechanical engines, there are enough of them for every taste: heavy and light, economical and heavy-duty, so looking at all sorts of EURO 6 is not interesting, I am not interested in such cars
Would have loved to see an OKA in the lineup as well, it would have definitely given these trucks a run for thier money
It probably still wouldn't have performed a well as the Mog, because it would be heavier. Granted the Mog is kinda cheating here by just having a flatbed.
There's a reason why we in the ADF bought a bunch of them.
Mind you even its not too flash compared to my old off road vehicle, a Leopard 1.
now that would be fun!!!
LOL. One of them really would catch every eye on the track.
Might be a bit hard on the tracks though :)
Most photographed vehicle doing gunshot Cape York?
@@TheRaptor1967 If by "tracks" you mean the metal/rubber component - unlikely.
If by "tracks" you mean the route through the forest, again limited as the tank's ground pressure is lower than a person's spread along the entire surface in contact with the ground, as opposed to the four small areas where the truck tyres are in contact with the ground.
yes that would be an eye opener!!!@@TheRaptor1967
@@TheRaptor1967its how you make new tracks lol
That was an amazing showdown. The Mog just dominated even without any weight in the back, which was expected given the bigger tyres and portals. However, the Iveco is the GOAT for me. Did amazingly well loaded up. Cheers for the showdown guys 👍
Thank you mate. We reckon bigger tyres on the Iveco an less load on the rear would even things up a bit. When it comes to an all rounder though, the Iveco is a beast!
@@4WDTVIveco only worry would be reliability
We have done ok with our's wondering how hard we go on a regular basis@@Alidilman
Love the Iveco and I think it fills the gap between a Hilux / LC and a Unimog perfect.
that's a great way of looking at it@@volkerpetersen2671
I'd love a Mog, have wanted one for ages and always looking at the Frontline Machinery Auctions to see what there is almost on a monthly basis
fingers crossed you can find what you are after!
@@4WDTV - Yeah, supply (in Australia at least) from Pickles and the like won't last forever. Also I think Once the ADF finish selling them off, the private price will start going up. :(
front Line machinery still have stock but yes, exactly right, it can't last forever.@@TheRaptor1967
This was a fun one to be apart of
The unimog would be complete with a habitat on the back. What a beast
They have. a lot to offer
Go the daily. 👍. Cheers. All good off road trucks.
Have u got a recent setup / re-download vid of the daily please?
There is a reason why the Australian army used them. Because they are so capable. War zones aren't easy to traverse.
they are very impressive!
Even the US Marines have used them.
Good show, Simon.
Jason
haha, oh awesome thank you. Was great meeting up and let's keep in contact please
Oh boy. The episode I have been waiting for.
That was fun to make and watch. Thank you.
Mog in a league of it's own in the mud and up a scramble, but also outnof it's league at autobahn speed.
Highway show down of the same set would be interesting viewing.
It was good to see the 3 top selling 4 x 4 trucks on the market battle it out, and then came the unimog lol. Would on loved a quick spec sheet for a comparison. and also to see them 3/4's loaded up. After all who goes up the bush empty. Were the tyres pressure set at different pressure for all trucks? did any have an exhaust brake? and who had power dividers, rear diff locks and or front diff locks. But cheers still good to watch.
The Isuzus have a standard rear autolocker similar to the detroit lockers , not sure about the others
This is awesome guys thanks great job to all of you
Thank you for watching and glad you enjoyed it.
Iveco daily 4x4 is my dream, incredible truck! ❤
you should watch our other videos. It is our feature vehicle in most episodes
After watching, I must say, that YES, the vehicle part is very awesome. But each Person and what they do, was EQUALLY great. I saw great Friendship and Help to each other. I applaud you all. One thing in regard of electric 4x4 and such. Be CAREFULL.
Thank you!
The way i keep re-watching 4wd Tv videos over and over just makes me want to push hard, move to Australia someday to come and have fun with you guys😅😅💯💯
That would be awesome!!!
Yeah I was going to move to Australia. In 1996. Then that stupid gun ban happened. I literally had my home up for sale when that happened. Was a close one. But I will never sacrifice my 2A. So America is where i stayed.
@robsdeviceunknown I love Australia for its 4x4 culture, its my everyday dream to own a 4x4 and go play Off-Road
Come and visit!!!@@manyuhahulisani2091
Gun ban? Our firearms were never banned. We do plenty of gun content and we just received our 10th rifle. Will have a new video on that one shortly. We did though get some firearms restrictions, specifically on semi auto ownership but there are ways around it and there are still plenty in civilian hands@@robsdeviceunknown
Awesome video. Gr8 4 trucks and insights. Cheers Guys.
absolutely!!!
Makes the Daily look small 😳
haha, the unimog is huge on 47s!
Lol! Its a CSSB mog too with that typical rising sun badge on the door😂
still got the job done 😁
There all pretty incredible rigs mate it’s a whole other level of expensive to buy and fix the inevitable busted stuff though ,very cool vid man hope ya well cheers
haha, Iveco wanted $4K plus for what was essentially a complete CV, so yeah he get it... but we did fix it with a $120 uni joint!
We are all good thank you and hope you are well too!
@@4WDTV thats the way mate
Unimog. Most fun and a beast of a vehicle. No matter what you throw at it, it endures.
I remember having to hill start a mog for weeks on end, because the solenoid was cactus. Can be done in reverse too, that was pretty hairy.
sounds like a fun few weeks mate!!!
The Mog is a totally different league. A Russian TATRA may be able to keep up but bare in mind a UNIMOG was developed as a TRACTOR. If you’re impressed by the LWB, you need to see a SWB with traction tyres. They will literally claw their way almost anywhere.
I’m partial to the SWB as my Uncle had one of the first in New Zealand, if not the first. Total domination of terrain. Bonus front and rear pto outputs and 3 point linkage
They are definitely an outstanding vehicle and SWB are definitely very cool and capable. That would have been awesome times back with your Uncle.
Tatra is made im Czech republic!!!
Germany attacked Czechoslovakia, among other things, because factory like Tara, CZ skoda etc best tracks, cars and guns on planet
nice info thank you @@lsgretic4397
Would have been nice to see a iveco eurocargo 4x4 and a Mitsubishi canter 4x4 and sice your done old milatary trucks it would also be nice to see a internatanal acco 4x4
We did a special with Darryl Beattie and his Eurocargo crossing the Simpson. Awesome truck but far too big for these tracks.
yeah what the hell is an acco? whos got one
@@4wdieebroncos acco's are a range of trucks internatanal made here in Australia some were for the military in 4x4 or 6x6 they also made 4x2 4x6 4x8 also iveco made some acco's as well
The Mog is a piece of kit in its own right. It's made ab factory to be getting the job done. The others would need customization to be like the Unimog. On top of that you can be getting an Unimog factory made to be even more capable. With factory support. An Unimog doesn't come cheap - if you're not into the extreme - moneywise the others are great alternatives.
yes, almost a league of it's own! But it would be interesting to see how the Iveco went with even just 40 inch tyres and no weight on the rear. It is extremely capable from factory too.
Not exactly a complete showdown without the Fuso considering how widely used it is.
no doubt. How about an Acco, OKA and Gaz or even a Tatra and a Sherp? Plenty of options. But we only had space for four.
Fuso is by far better then the Isuzu and hino off-road! I have proved that a number of times, still got nothing on a uni with 47’s though
yes those 47s are a distinct advantage. It would be interesting to see how much the gap could be closed if the Iveco had just 40s and a much lightened payload@@chantelanning6761
@@4WDTV It would be great to see more videos like this, with real 4wding. Great job!👍
we had fun!!!@@fredfred4086
All are awesome Trucks!! Awesome trails. And yeah portal axle helps a lot. There is a Russian Manufactory where builds a lot portal axle for different Cars
Volvo C303 portals are popular in SE Asia.
Always count on the MOG !!
just not for the long slow uncomfortable ride there and back 😂 but yes, off road they are awesome!
I tryed and made a mog look stupid in my steyr puch pinzgauer.
Sounds epic, we love the old Pinzs!@@pinzgauerbelgium
Great and timely video. I currently tow my travel trailer (caravan) with an International 4700 LP. It is a great rig but only rear wheel drive and low profile. My new trailer is an Imperial Outdoors X 195. Lots of off road capabilities. I want a tow rig that will handle rough roads and still tow a 5 ton trailer. I have always loved the Unimog.
Great great video💪👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤩😍🥰
Yeah thank you mate!!!
Out of curiosity, where was the Canter? Fairer comparison would of been of all of them locked though.
No idea sorry. Where was the Canter?
We ran the vehicles as we had them. It wasn't possible to have them all locked or on the same size tyres, let along in the state state of loaded. But we had a fun time trying.
That Unimog make my Ram Dually look small
haha, easily, the Mogs are are huge!
I have been a Unimog owner for about 15 years now and I also collect US Military trucks and belong to both a state and a world wide military truck collectors group and we generally every summer go on an off road excursion every year a lot of the times is on logging trails in MN. Its always fun and always the same thing as far as trucks making it through the muck and the Mog is always so much more capable in this stuff I mean to the point of the other trucks are running in low range 6x6 and in the Mog I am in 3 rd gear and havent even engaged the 4x4 yet! Its a different class of truck!
personally, i just love that Iveco 😎
Yeah thank you. It is a very capable and decent all rounder!
I don't need to guess. First by far is the UNIMOG, then Iveco, the others are about equal Street Vehicles with 4x4. The U and I are Military tested for many Decades
Very true!
Excellent video guys, all trucks were impressive, the Iveco was better than I expected but the Hino and Isuzu were impressive for what they are - the Mog is just another leve.
It would be interesting to fit portal axles to the Ivecol, I think that would compete head to head with the Mog then.
Very true. we would be happy just to see how much closer it was if the the Iveco had 40s and no load on the rear.
The trucks you guys drive over there are awesome! I can’t think of any trucks we have that fill the gap between Semi-Trucks and typical Heavy Duty trucks like a Ford F350, F450 or RAM or Chevy 3500 or 4500 trucks. There are flatbed tow trucks but nothing as fun as what you guys have going on in this video.
Does the poor Hino driver realize that the last vehicle has the most difficult job? The forerunners created a lot more slippery mud to drive through.
he was just kidding i am sure
It's great to see a review of these trucks doing more than touring tracks. If you're considering any of these trucks, consider investing the difference in the price of purchase into a Unimog you get a 100kph+ on-road capable truck with all the modern features of the rest. Japanese dual cab 4x4 trucks cost from $80-100k secondhand with Super singles, Iveco Dual cab cost $90 - 120k secondhand. Now buy a Mog at auction for $30k and invest the difference of $50-90k in maintenance and comfort and you have a road-friendly supersized 4x4. The only down side from there is it will only be a single cab.
There are dual cab Mogs in Australia but how do you get a Mog to do 100kph reliably?
@@4WDTVoverdrive gearbox for $20k
Yeah ok nice. How does it affect low range?@@TheOutFit
Some mogs were optioned with hi speed diffs, think that gives 65mph, oversize tyres like 395 miicheli or 425 continental give the same, standard gearbox can also have working group gears and crawler gears
expensive we bet.@@johngibson3837
Awesome video. Loved seeing this. Old mate Tim from ultimate9 is a spitting image of JFK
HAHA, too true, very interesting comment!
Have Iveco in our fleet and when they go it’s good. When they don’t, it’s a long long long wait for spares/repairs.
Loved the video guys
Only one problem. A Spec sheet would have been nice. Also Spec of all the trucks. Example weight and how many gears. Engine power and rev control
Yeah there are so many things we could have added, heaps of people want different things so we just tried to keep it simple and really just wanted an excuse to get these beasts all out for the day.
First thing that I noticed on the Hino and Iveco, that they seemed to have "street-driving" tire pressure, surely no help on the slippery rocks, but just generally a bad plan!
ah ok, not sure what the signed were mate but road pressures on the Iveco are 60PSI and on that day it was running 15PSI. The Hino went down to 18 but not sure what pressure he runs on road. We can though guarantee that 15 and 18 are not suitable road pressures for either truck 😁
Came to see the mog slay, was not disappointed!
glad we could live up to your dreams!
being raised on a farm and with a unimog in the barn you learn to appreciate the power of big tires on offroad trucks. a unimog will go up a hill if you make it. all the features make it almost too easy. portal axles give you so much clearance and the huge tires make climbing up things aswell as keeping traction incredibly easy.
The other trucks are really cool too, dont get me wrong, but ill never settle for anything less than a unimog myself.
Hi guys great episode I've just recently gotten into these trucks and all the set up recently I knew the mog had a big chance to win these obstacles but to be fair with the other trucks to me it a matter of finding their sweet spots and how they perform I love my 4wdriving haven't been for a while as I got a soon to be 4 yr old boy and a 1 year old daughter which I hope they can get into camping and 4wdriving one day but for now where I live in Queensland I'm up near the pine forests so I stick to mild tracks to slowly introduce 4wdriving to my boy it's still keeps my dream alive driving my 05 105 cruiser, looking forward to the next episode
yes get back into it soon mate and get that `105 off road. The kids will love it!
Can’t believe you didn’t use the Terminator theme every time that Mog was in shot 😂
Portal axles - The final argument to any debate 😅
haha, they are awesome but the 47 inch tyres help too!
The Iveco looks like what would happen if a Unimog and a side-by-side had a baby
As someone who has done a reasonable amount of convoy driving behind the wheel of a mog. Only real gripe I had with it was the struggled to keep up with the rest of the convoy doing 100 km/h out on the blacktop. That was more what spec the Army bought, over the vehicle itself. But as is plain to see, mog shits all over the other units in the vid once you get off road. Some of the mogs Army bought had a front mount winch.
Very true, they are a formidable beast off road.
First of all it was fun watching, 2nd Mog Is a different Thing . Other 3 Did Good , But HINO Was empty Bedded . It was not Getting grip on the Rear , Obvious. That's Why it needed Tow on every Obstacle Almost.
Awesome video team. Was good to those other rigs shape up, would love to see some different terrains down the line.
Haha, you guys were on our list to reach out to. We'd love to get you involved with our shows and join us on some of our adventures. How about it?
@@4WDTV Sounds awesome, would be keen for that! Give us a bell when the time comes.
Thanks, just sent an email to info@unidan.com.au@@unidanengineering
Would be great to see how they stack up against a Kamaz truck. Kamaz has shown how capable they are in the Dakar Rally over the years.
Alos Gaz, Acco, Fuso and many more
Nah, Dakar trucks are not designed to handle off-road like this. They're built for high-speed rallying. Stock Kamaz will be better there. But in this class of trucks you should compare a GAZ-66, it can be a good competitor to Unimog.
Red for the road. Camo for the bush. Just like I said, the Unimog has it all.
glad you are joking as anyone with any experience knows that all three of these smaller rides are far faster and more comfortable on the bitumen. The Unimog is king of the tracks but it's a slow horrible ride to get anywhere and to get home. Then again, fit slightly larger tyres to the Iveco and considerably lighten the load in the back, and that would be a far closer competition off road. The fact is that the Iveco is super capable off road but leaves the Mog for dead when it comes to touring and comfort, let alone a modern fit out. 😁
the only trucks i consider to be a competition for an unimog are tatra and kamaz
In Germany we say: Where the Unimog can't get through, only a leopard can get through.
sounds correct!
No doubt about it. Cool vid
Thank you mate. It was fun to make!
no mention of:
average fuel consumption, truck price new and used, will it sit at 110kph, engine size, gearbox info, country of origin, fuel consumption on day, engine power, service intervals, service costs, parts availability, depreciation, weight, towing capacity, length and width, truck or car licence, insurance prices, aftermarket parts, clubs, sales figures, do emergency services use them, pros and cons, interior quality, build quality, reputation, seats, dashboards, rpm at 110kph, 2 seater or 4 seater options, do mines use them- why/why not, tyre life, tyre costs, tyre PSI, turning radius, height
and the ist continues. Some great ideas for three or four more episodes right there. Maybe we should do more content on these trucks 😁
Just a demonstration about traction vs. weight! But the Iveco did quite well.
sure! but how about rolling diameter, clearance, front locker, etc?
You are right, we'd love to see the Iveco on 40s with no weight on the back.
Awesome comparison, thanks! How’s the reliability of the Iveco? Any issues with the transfer case or brakes overheating?
Both the transfer and brakes have been upgraded 😜
@4WDTV 👊 who did the upgrades? Any other issues?
360 did the transfer case and Rugged Brakes did the brake upgrade. The biggest thing we did though can't be mentioned publicly but it has made a huge difference to the reliability 😜@@Expedition_Tranquilo
About time you put on a good one 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪💪
My prediction?...The Unimog.
In the US the Unimog is out there - in various configurations, but only 2WD Hino’s and Isuzu’s are here on box truck chassis.
Iveco has faded away here. FedEx used their little box trucks in the early days.
I watch the annual Dakar Rally and marvel at the big 4WD monsters which drive it.
I liked the part where they told us absolutely nothing at all about the trucks, and what makes them different or any kind of comparison for off roading usage. But at least they managed to get in at least half dozen adverts in there
Geez you were thorough with your watching then thank you. The Iveco is featured almost every week on the show, we have had it for four years and the the others were pretty much just standard apart from tyres. The only real difference was the front lockers and tyre size but most of that was mentioned during the episode. Thank you for watching 😁
@@4WDTV it was more as a stand alone video comparing them. Didn't mention anything more technical. Engine, low ranges, Axel types. Everyone knows a unimog has portals and that's about as much as you go into it in Terms of a comparison. Good filming and video, very much 4wd 24/7 style. I just wanted and was expecting more about the actual machines. And less of an advert promoting goods, also a 24/7 gripe
Appreciate the feedback thank you.@@astromarky123
well we just think this is a great excuse to go back and shoot the video again but cover all the aspects of the vehicles! Great idea thank you@@astromarky123
Unimogs are the best. They are farm equipment for sure. 🚜
we used them in our military. Awesome vehicles
Question from an amateur, what's the track damage after these trucks have been through compared to reg size 4x4s. I can imagine if these vehicles become more popular they will tear tracks apart that a standard vehicle with 4 inch lifts, lockers and 35s will end up struggling.
it is actually the opposite. In most cases they are more capable and do far less damage. Put is this way, a bigger tyre has a greater rolling diameter and a much bigger footprint so the impact on the terrain is far less. Not only does it present with far less pounds per square inch of force on the ground, it offers far greater traction and rolls up a dover things with much greater ease. hence there is less need to drive aggressively. All the track damage we encountered was from two things, much smaller vehicles and the main cause; storm water. Anyone who spends time in the outdoors knows that rain water does far more damage to the terrain than vehicles could ever do. These vehicles are already popular, there are plenty getting around and my final point is because of the bigger wheel track and wheel base, they typically get up and over obstacles more easily as they don't sit in the major dug out areas caused by smaller vehicles. There are always exceptions to the case but it is all about being a responsible driver and these vehicles had far less impact on these tracks compared to what four smaller cars with smaller tyres and less capability would have done. 😁
As an American, I always just assume America has the biggest stuff. Trucks especially. Then the Aussie 4x4 channel pops up and makes the f150 feel small. I don't know what y'all are doing down there but if you could ship some more Umogs and 59 series landcruisers stateside we'd appreciate it
yeah we do have some great options for 4x4 trucks down here and they are definitely a lot of fun!