This is a great video about the trade. I have been a tool maker for forty years.This is a great trade if you are willing to work hard and learn . Go to school and get your certification,and no one can take that away from you. I can speak from experience that you can have great pride in your skills and yourself. Always keep learning that is also what is so good about what we do. Good luck to all who choose to work in our trade and pass on what you have learned. Remember MADE IN USA.
You got all that right! Back in the day, I had to master manual operations (mill, turning, grinding) before I even was worthy enough to get on anything CNC...A good number of the younger people want to just change parts on a CNC after each cycle, and expect $20 an hour for it...Even in my latter days in the trade, they'd quit after 3 to 6 months when they saw what they had to learn and do in order to advance.. My boss stopped taking on apprentices at that point...
Those hay days are over . Your going to be doing tedious stressful high tech work for low tech pay !! And pay for your own healthcare to boot . All the whole hoping some foreign country doesn’t steal your work resulting in you getting laid off . Avoid this trade be one an engineer instead . I’ve been a toolmaker since I was a kid 25 years ago and it has gone to crap. My sons won’t follow in my foot steps working a dying trade like machining if I can help it
@@e2sguy agreed.. and a manual machinist is a relic now.. youre almost better off starting with 5axis CAm/cad and learn the actual machining skills later on
Rob M almost better off ? Yes you are really much much better off in the Cnc world . You might even get lucky and get out of the teens $ for an hourly wage if you do that well
@@airgunningyup That is the dumbest statement ever.. Run before you crawl? Yeahhh,,, I bet you morons cant calculate anything or do any trigonometry or anything like that.. damn phone zombies!
All right Dude you found the perfect work for the person you wanted to be! You are most fortunate indeed! I’m 75 and I am still riding around backwards while seated on the handlebars derailing my chain trying to determine which way is up and why I didn’t bring more oil. Cheers in your well found career.
My best advice, as a 20 year machinist programming 5axis, take everything thrown at you. If someone else figured it out, you can too. Constantly challenge yourself. Learn Gcode, like really learn it. I can read raw code and identify a crash or a problem before even running it.
I’m happy for you kid but I can assure you Collecting unemployment won’t feel “ rewarding “ after the bottom falls out in the next recession and I got news for you ;manufacturing is always the first to feel the hit . There were times when we had not one blueprint on the floor and the lights were off . I’ve been through several recessions in the tool trade . I Almost lost everything twice thanks to outsourcing ..and I’m an expert at the top of my game so don’t get to smug . This trade is a job now not a career . Loyalty to the company has no value today . There is no security in this business. Become an engineer instead . Twice the pay and no layoffs
Nukkeproof Turnup that may be true I’m negative , but imma realist not an optimist .it’s reality in this business unfortunately. . It was great trade at one point 20 years ago
my dad was a machinist for general electric for years, one day he took me out to his work shop and said "this is my lathe, you can do whatever you want in life but this is what i do, and uour gonna start learning what i do" a week later he had a massive cerebral hemmorage and suffered brain damage and paralysis to an extent that that dream went by by.
To ModernSkuzz - I was a machinist for the better part of 20 years who went through an extensive apprenticeship, and had to master manual machine applications before I ever went on anything CNC.. When my job got outsourced to China, I was doing things to the point where the boss man would just have to hand me a print, point to the stock rack, and say "Make it!" Everything from process planning, stock cutting, blank dimensional roughing, tool and fixturing, CNC programming and operation, secondary or finish ops, and SPC inspection (You know what any of this shit is, Jerkweed?) ...Even packaging! I'll lay odds, if you went through what I went through to get where I was, you'd probably say, "Fuck this shit!" after six months, and go running back to watching porn on your iPhone while whacking off in the stock room @ Walmart...So, you STFU, Tard!
GOOD FOR YOU ADAM. IT MAY SOUND ODD BUT NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO PLAN FOR RETIREMENT. GET INTO A PLACE THAT IS FUTURE PROTECTED LIKE CITY, STATE, OR FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT OR OTHER LARGE AEROSPACE ETC. POSITION. AFTER 25 YEARS A GOLD WATCH DON'T FLY.
he is in a tooling shop/maintenance shop for a very large facility in the United States..not a production cell or similar... i haven't been there to verify it is real with my own eyes... but... it is likely real.. my experience is mostly limited to oil and gas industry, so may be a bit biased on both ends of the spectrum... but you can see that kind of cleanliness in an environment where the company can afford on hand "engineers" (plural) in order to produce it's own custom tooling and robotics... they can afford both to pay people to clean the place up... and to teach/keep/observe.... clean, and professional, work-space industrial practices. if you make a mess in a place like that, you don't end up in that gentleman's position; or not for long anyways.. and rightly so.
I am a machinist and after 9 months there is no way you would be making that after what did he say 2 years? Not a chance and he isn't exactly working big 5 axis mills.
I think location and demand has a lot to do with it. Southwest Ohio has a large aerospace industry and machinists around here tend to start out at roughly $17-$22 an hour. That's right around $40k a year without overtime.
Conversational programming blows. If you don't have cam software, knowing how to write your own g code programs if far superior and more versatile. You aren't limited to one machine with whatever pre programmed ops it may have.
well..he was saying conversational programing..... but he was also saying he was writing in code line by line ... i hope it was Fanuc G&M Code... can't stand that "user friendly" junk conversational stuff... dumbs the man down.... dumbs the industry and the nation ... ultimately dumbs all of mankind down... glad at least you very likely agree with me.
@@summitgames6061 i mean hows the machinist job going, I plan to get into the trade, tho I'm grade of mech engineering bsc, any advice or recommendation for a newbie? Is the job okay?
@@mikeledd9543 I found an aerospace job where I work 3 days a week rn. This year I hit 80k for 2022, I like the job cause it pays for schooling, and get a lot of free time... the six figure job was a 12 hour a day job 4-6 days a week; Felt dead on the inside. I'm much happier now making less.
No...he isn't sad...he is respectful... you need to understand.. he is educated enough to know that it is generally an accomplishment to be called a machinist instead of a machine tool operator.. he has worked hard and been allowed to work in, and with, the big boy tools, circumstances and topics.... he is doing stuff that in some cases men must work a life time before being allowed to have access to... very likely surrounded by extremely knowledgeable and wise people who answer every question he asks; opening up doors for more... and effectively infinitely more questions on how to make stuff.... and how to make stuff work. With a big company like that... his age... you are looking at a once in a life time solid gold moment that certainly will provide a life of joy and prosperity if cared for..and if some politician doesn't whip him out. by now he's probably in awesome shape with a well cared for fam, and looking forward to more... sure hope so. I doubt I am as smart as he is... and i wasn't as young as he was when i got into machining... but.. I've seen that look in the mirror before. It's knowing ... respect
What a rookie. I'm 23 and I've been at my low volume production bearings shop for 2 years. All the old smart people taught me how to program grinders and mills and lathes from scratch. It dont take college it just takes a very smart mind and the right place to do it. Make 75k this year btw
This is a great video about the trade. I have been a tool maker for forty years.This is a great trade if you are willing to work hard and learn . Go to school and get your certification,and no one can take that away from you. I can speak from experience that you can have great pride in your skills and yourself. Always keep learning that is also what is so good about what we do. Good luck to all who choose to work in our trade and pass on what you have learned. Remember MADE IN USA.
You got all that right! Back in the day, I had to master manual operations (mill, turning, grinding) before I even was worthy enough to get on anything CNC...A good number of the younger people want to just change parts on a CNC after each cycle, and expect $20 an hour for it...Even in my latter days in the trade, they'd quit after 3 to 6 months when they saw what they had to learn and do in order to advance.. My boss stopped taking on apprentices at that point...
Those hay days are over . Your going to be doing tedious stressful high tech work for low tech pay !! And pay for your own healthcare to boot . All the whole hoping some foreign country doesn’t steal your work resulting in you getting laid off . Avoid this trade be one an engineer instead . I’ve been a toolmaker since I was a kid 25 years ago and it has gone to crap. My sons won’t follow in my foot steps working a dying trade like machining if I can help it
@@e2sguy agreed.. and a manual machinist is a relic now.. youre almost better off starting with 5axis CAm/cad and learn the actual machining skills later on
Rob M almost better off ? Yes you are really much much better off in the Cnc world . You might even get lucky and get out of the teens $ for an hourly wage if you do that well
@@airgunningyup That is the dumbest statement ever.. Run before you crawl? Yeahhh,,, I bet you morons cant calculate anything or do any trigonometry or anything like that.. damn phone zombies!
All right Dude you found the perfect work for the person you wanted to be! You are most fortunate indeed! I’m 75 and I am still riding around backwards while seated on the handlebars derailing my chain trying to determine which way is up and why I didn’t bring more oil.
Cheers in your well found career.
Great trade! I’ve been a machinist since 1988. New experience everyday. We need more people like this gentleman. This has become a “dying” trade.
why has this become a “dying” trade?
It isn't dying out, there's countless jobs everywhere.
Dying because we don't get paid enough
@@Sanemikufannot from what I’ve heard
@@oseasgonzalez7828robots
I've been a production operator for almost 2 years now. I would like to make the jump to machinist. I respect this trade and I enjoyed this video.
My best advice, as a 20 year machinist programming 5axis, take everything thrown at you. If someone else figured it out, you can too. Constantly challenge yourself. Learn Gcode, like really learn it.
I can read raw code and identify a crash or a problem before even running it.
i am so glad i chose this path, now i need to get certified
Nick Josef did u?
@@jrmob8765 he died from corona, pa was a good man
@@jackcrump6020 lol
I studied machining 3 years, but it wasnt my thing. I respect those guys tho!
valttu95 ,same here. What career path are you in now? if you don’t mind me asking.
Your not missing much high tech work for low tech pay
My boyfriend is a machinist. I'm watching this video to see what his job is like. Thanks for posting thi...
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We need a lot more of these kids!
I love this video I’m a machinist I make 75k I love it very rewarding I’m only 27 too sky is the limit in this industry
85artz31 your delusional wait till China or India gets your work eventually then you’ll learn your limit
im curious how you make 75K a years, because most job offer only 15 - 20 $CA a hours while the minimum salary is 12 $ CA a hours
I’m happy for you kid but I can assure you Collecting unemployment won’t feel “ rewarding “ after the bottom falls out in the next recession and I got news for you ;manufacturing is always the first to feel the hit . There were times when we had not one blueprint on the floor and the lights were off . I’ve been through several recessions in the tool trade . I Almost lost everything twice thanks to outsourcing ..and I’m an expert at the top of my game so don’t get to smug . This trade is a job now not a career . Loyalty to the company has no value today . There is no security in this business. Become an engineer instead . Twice the pay and no layoffs
@@e2sguy you really negativ
Nukkeproof Turnup that may be true I’m negative , but imma realist not an optimist .it’s reality in this business unfortunately. . It was great trade at one point 20 years ago
Im a machinist from philippines since 2003
Gr8 video I just started as a machinist assistant a month ago. I also use a laser engraver as well as all the machines you mentioned.
Exceptional video and example... thanks very much for producing this.
Madera Community College has a complete manufacturing program including apprenticeship an a new Industry 4.0 Metrology lab, welding and maintenance.
my dad was a machinist for general electric for years, one day he took me out to his work shop and said "this is my lathe, you can do whatever you want in life but this is what i do, and uour gonna start learning what i do" a week later he had a massive cerebral hemmorage and suffered brain damage and paralysis to an extent that that dream went by by.
That sucks. Machining is a great skill to learn.
Well that escalated quickly lol
im going to college for this now
Sorry to hear that
I want to get into this, any advice on how to do it?
Juan, we suggest to start by talking with a career counselor at a local/regional technical college.
im a vertical milling operator ..i m looking for a job can u help me
Good job. Which school offers this training
9 years on and the trades are still short on people who can perform skilled jobs.
If you can find one in the States, more power to you...Most of these jobs have gone overseas...
+Crazcompart these jobs are still here
Stfu crazcomprat you don't know what u r talking. About
somehow the fact that you say this makes it more attractive :P :P
To ModernSkuzz - I was a machinist for the better part of 20 years who went through an extensive apprenticeship, and had to master manual machine applications before I ever went on anything CNC.. When my job got outsourced to China, I was doing things to the point where the boss man would just have to hand me a print, point to the stock rack, and say "Make it!" Everything from process planning, stock cutting, blank dimensional roughing, tool and fixturing, CNC programming and operation, secondary or finish ops, and SPC inspection (You know what any of this shit is, Jerkweed?) ...Even packaging! I'll lay odds, if you went through what I went through to get where I was, you'd probably say, "Fuck this shit!" after six months, and go running back to watching porn on your iPhone while whacking off in the stock room @ Walmart...So, you STFU, Tard!
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great video, quite informative; pleasant tune
GOOD FOR YOU ADAM. IT MAY SOUND ODD BUT NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO PLAN FOR RETIREMENT. GET INTO A PLACE THAT IS FUTURE PROTECTED LIKE CITY, STATE, OR FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT OR OTHER LARGE AEROSPACE ETC. POSITION. AFTER 25 YEARS A GOLD WATCH DON'T FLY.
Vitatta so sell his life away to corporations?
Vitatta , Write on good advice .
You need to work on conventional lathe and milling machine before jumping onto CNC
Great vid
Everything is so neat and clean. Is this real?
he is in a tooling shop/maintenance shop for a very large facility in the United States..not a production cell or similar... i haven't been there to verify it is real with my own eyes... but... it is likely real.. my experience is mostly limited to oil and gas industry, so may be a bit biased on both ends of the spectrum... but you can see that kind of cleanliness in an environment where the company can afford on hand "engineers" (plural) in order to produce it's own custom tooling and robotics...
they can afford both to pay people to clean the place up... and to teach/keep/observe.... clean, and professional, work-space industrial practices.
if you make a mess in a place like that, you don't end up in that gentleman's position; or not for long anyways.. and rightly so.
Waupaca...?... It's not hard to make 40k a year when you work 7 days a week...all year long !!!!!
YOU need safety to be key keep you hands away from the turning ...and milling don't learn the hard way..be careful..
I am an old school machinist mills, lathes, drill presses etc.. NO Cnc at all. I hate CNC!
Me too. I'd much rather lug a 100 pound rotary table up onto the mill any time I want to radius a corner...
I am an old school machinist files, hack saws, handdrills etc, NO electricity at all. I hate ELECTRICITY
$10/ hr
The sky is the limit for a good machinist, I was making 20 back in the 80s, around 200/hr on rate now.
@@WorldLaughsWithYou bullshit i make 24 an hour in 2019
35/hr in many states
Cleveland CNC LOL nice fucking try douchebag
DeathFromAbove Wow. You sure told him.
It must be nice to be 20 and already make 40k a year
Not a chance.
Adam15197 you don't think that is possible?
I am a machinist and after 9 months there is no way you would be making that after what did he say 2 years? Not a chance and he isn't exactly working big 5 axis mills.
I think location and demand has a lot to do with it. Southwest Ohio has a large aerospace industry and machinists around here tend to start out at roughly $17-$22 an hour. That's right around $40k a year without overtime.
Adam15197 in my city in Canada, the average first year apprentice can make $35k a year. Going up to 53-54k a year on average once you're licensed
God that music is awful.
stfu
They should have played “We’ll grind that axe” by Pantera.
Yeah I guess Heavy Metal would be better.
Nice
Conversational programming blows. If you don't have cam software, knowing how to write your own g code programs if far superior and more versatile. You aren't limited to one machine with whatever pre programmed ops it may have.
this job is fun and games, until you have to pay the bills with a bullshit salary.
can in job mi machinist
Programs built on the machine's software are only useful for that machine. That's very deceiving.
well..he was saying conversational programing..... but he was also saying he was writing in code line by line ... i hope it was Fanuc G&M Code... can't stand that "user friendly" junk conversational stuff... dumbs the man down.... dumbs the industry and the nation ... ultimately dumbs all of mankind down... glad at least you very likely agree with me.
jeez...kid seems really young to be a machinist early in his career.
I've been a machinist since I was 14... got my first job where I'm going to make well over six figures as a machinist....
@@summitgames6061 hello hows it going
@@mikeledd9543 sup
@@summitgames6061 i mean hows the machinist job going, I plan to get into the trade, tho I'm grade of mech engineering bsc, any advice or recommendation for a newbie? Is the job okay?
@@mikeledd9543 I found an aerospace job where I work 3 days a week rn. This year I hit 80k for 2022, I like the job cause it pays for schooling, and get a lot of free time... the six figure job was a 12 hour a day job 4-6 days a week; Felt dead on the inside. I'm much happier now making less.
wanted to hear what about the career not this kid yapping about how much he loves it
The guy is obviously sad.. Lonely or something :l
No...he isn't sad...he is respectful... you need to understand.. he is educated enough to know that it is generally an accomplishment to be called a machinist instead of a machine tool operator.. he has worked hard and been allowed to work in, and with, the big boy tools, circumstances and topics.... he is doing stuff that in some cases men must work a life time before being allowed to have access to... very likely surrounded by extremely knowledgeable and wise people who answer every question he asks; opening up doors for more... and effectively infinitely more questions on how to make stuff.... and how to make stuff work.
With a big company like that... his age... you are looking at a once in a life time solid gold moment that certainly will provide a life of joy and prosperity if cared for..and if some politician doesn't whip him out.
by now he's probably in awesome shape with a well cared for fam, and looking forward to more... sure hope so.
I doubt I am as smart as he is... and i wasn't as young as he was when i got into machining... but.. I've seen that look in the mirror before.
It's knowing ... respect
Jim Burns, Jr. Amen
He's most likely nervous to be filmed.
Reko Starr , No he's just a home town kid that likes normality and stability , he's just easy going .
Reko Starr How’d you get that from this video?
What a rookie. I'm 23 and I've been at my low volume production bearings shop for 2 years. All the old smart people taught me how to program grinders and mills and lathes from scratch. It dont take college it just takes a very smart mind and the right place to do it. Make 75k this year btw
Good for you but no need to knock him for going to school
ryancxx I think you misunderstood...
75k I made 93
I’d rather go to school and work at a shop at the same time double the experience
Looks boring