Went to college out of high school and earned a bachelor's in accounting. Once I got a job In the field I hated it. Lucky enough to get offered a tool and die apprenticeship after taking some cnc classes. It's a very satisfying trade and will be heavily in demand. Always learning and Getting paid to play
You’re absolutely right- we need more tool and die makers. I received my journeyman’s card in 1982 and worked as a tool and die maker in very intricate machines, injections and compression molds, and dies for eight years. We were essential to the efficient running of the production areas. I have retired from owning my own business and I earned multiple,degrees along the way, which tool me out of too, and die, though it was the basis for my deep understanding of how things are made. So, Tool and Die is the basis of much of my knowledge and skills set. Now retired I do woodworking. Because of my T&D experience, I can make anything! I hope young folks read this and find an apprenticeship in this great and fun trade.
I looked up tool and die repair on RUclips and came across this video. This Randy dude kind of has a similar upbringing to me as in having no idea about tool and die but was interested, and took general shop classes in high school
Went to college for a semester now starting my tool and die apprenticeship (I’m about to turn 22) and I could not be happier. Such a satisfying job always learning and like he said 2 days are practically never a like. Wish I had learned about this in school but like him I also stumbled onto it by accident but could not be happier.
As a tool and die maker you have the skills to solve problems that engineers cant even see. Im only 30 years old and earn over 6 figures started as a tool and die maker and worked my way up to Manufacturing engineer. I didnt pay a dime for schooling real new age tool and die maker need to be able to design a die from just a part print on the computer and have the knowledge to program all machines that are used to make it.
It is a great trade, has a bad habit of people who have had bad experiences just knock the whole trade because they think their experience is everyone’s experience, but the answer is NO the trade is alive and well and booming, and if you can master cnc and robotics you are almost guaranteed a 6 figure salary
That's the route I went, after apprenticeship, company would pay your tuition. Took them up on it. I'm now a Tooling engineer. If anyone asks though, I'm a Tool & Die Maker, had to work harder for that one.
@@al-kazaz9032 It's comfortable, because they know I can go elsewhere for more. My bargaining position is high, but I like the job, the guys, the pace, and my responsibilities. Plus, I get to train apprentices from time to time in CAD, CAM, and 3D modeling. I like my job.
@@metalflameful Yeah, nah, I can and have reground cutters, unless they're less than a half inch you don't bother. Bigger than that, get an insert cutter.
I have an engineering degree, doing a machinist certification now and much happier. Tool and die is very cool!! Thank you, i’ve become more interested in it overtime
It's a pity, that a degree can be done, without at least 6 years experience coming through a trade, nothing against doing a degree, good on you, bit a lot of your education is being provided from people that have been professional students, ( engineering hobbyists), sadly I had to deal and redesign a lot of work produced by degree engineers, at the repeated cost of companies that employed the degree engineers, I know there will be a lot experienced people out there that will agree
@@RobertFlynn-i4h good lord yes, young engineers don't even understand basic measurement, which it the bedrock of toolmakers. "You're going to change this without even knowing what it is?" is usually a dead stop for conversations with them. Buys you a couple months before you hit them with the solution you thought up in a week.
As someone who has been doing this for a couple decades, I'd say a T + D maker is a machinist. The difference is in your focus, not the skills. I've done 5 axis production work, manuals, lathes, mills, grinders, edms, and they're all a part of the same large skill set. Production is generally focused on doing the same thing better and better with ever increasing efficiency, tool making is working on one part at a time, making it precise and correct. In production, you're running a well established process (or creating what will be a well established process), in tool making you are figuring it out as you go most of the time doing a one of a kind part and just being careful not to machine yourself into a corner or scrap the part. Unfortunately, it does not pay well relative to the actual difficulty and depth of the skills required for the job. This is because you will always be competing with 5-10 people in China who collectively make about the same amount you do. You'll make a lot more as a plumber, electrician, or some other technical field that cannot be outsourced as easily, and that's why the trade is dwindling in the US relative to other trades. You can still make good money, but you need to reach the top of the field and be in a company that facilitates this, or work independently from your own garage shop.
@jake canebrake I can only speak for myself, but I make decent cash, live in a nice house, etc. Defense industry jobs don't get outsourced, but it's not easy to get in and took a long time working for a lot less to get the qualifications. Still better to be an electrician or a plumber, Hvac, etc if you're looking for a solid trade skill that will get you a decent paying job anywhere. You become a machinist only if you like that type of work.
@jake canebrake during my 4 year apprenticeship I've gone from 19 dollars an hour starting, to 27.50 by the end. By the time I cap out as a journeyman I'll be making 32.50, this isn't even at the big 3 btw. So no, I won't be making a few dollars more than an unskilled plant worker. Machinists and tradesman in general make really good money in certain parts of the US. I'm sure its the same in other countries aswell.
Here's the deal, do your time in the apprenticeship get done and grind it for a few years. Move on to learning another aspect of the trade then another and another. Never ever turn down an opportunity to learn something else and excel at all. Always remember that EVERYBODY is replaceable but YOU want to be the guy that's a lot harder to replace. That's how you make the money. Remember if you're you're the smartest person in the room...you're in the wrong room. Peace to all my fellow toolmakers out there. And just so everyone can know Tool and Die makers are NOT mould makers.
Te felicito por tu buena explicación 👍 es una realidad. Lo que hace progresar a los paises es la industria no hay otra forma. Tienen el ejemplo de China. Conocer el oficio de Tool & Die es una gran opción para los jóvenes de hoy día. Pero tienen que tener una buena educación sobre el oficio y buenos instructores o profesores . Yo estudie en Tool & Die Training Center en Bayamon Puerto Rico. Me encantó tanto que cambio mi vida, lo disfruté por 40 años. A los jóvenes de hoy día les aconsejo decen esa oportunidad de vida y disfruten el oficio y veran su progreso personal y de su pais . 😊 Dios los bendiga siempre 🙏 🙌 .
i started as an apprentice 3 months ago right out of school and i love it, i walked into the toolroom and asked for a job and got one simple as, i learn every day and make good money and to think that just 3 months ago i didnt even know what a toolmaker was
Hope you stick with it brother, those 4 years go fast, and it is well worth it, all the people saying negative things about the trade are the people who failed to adapt
I’m as of writing this, officially 1 month away from graduating my apprenticeship with my journeyman’s as a toolmaker. My main interests in getting into this industry is not solely because of the money. When I was in 8th grade, (2015-ish) my dad told me I had to start thinking about what I wanted to do when I grow up. The next year, I decided to do some research and look at the average age of a machinist and toolmaker. The average age of a machinist was about 40 years old, while a toolmaker was on average about 50. That rationale to me meant that by 2030, I’ll be very much in demand since more often than not, positions where people retire from them are much harder to be filled than a firing and hiring.
You even think like a toolmaker. You have to think about tool obsolescence. Welcome to the club. Did they tell you about the not knowing anything still and learning everyday? I would look into getting into design, especially solidworks and pro-e when young.
@@scottrackley4457 yes, as I’m currently 75% through my degree in MET (Mechanical Engineering Technology) I’ve already done a few classes on CAD, NX, and SolidWorks.
Worked the diemaking/ machinist trades for 45 year's. It was good to me, but I wonder and worry about the skill levels needed nowadays, and the number of places offering apprenticeships. The managers have dumbed it down so much in order to hold wages down. Their collusion is going to come back to bite them with a lack of a skilled pool to pick from. I hope I am wrong.
I am a Red seal Tool and die maker/Machinist/Welder (yes all 3 red seals) trade jobs are not dieing the lack of people wanting to work with their hand is, also the biggest part of most trade jobs is the wages are not keeping up with the times and people see skilled trades as a second best.
I'm in Kentucky and a lot of places around here want journeyman level tool and die makers without paying them shit. A handful of places pay pretty good but that's it. Wages in general for manufacturing jobs in Kentucky are pathetic. $10-$12 an hour.
I think most of it is..."oh, you work with your hands?" "you get dirty and get cuts on your hands?" kinda stuff. Looking down on trades. I went to school with a guy, same grade as me, learned to be a plumber. He now lives in a 500K house with 10 acres, because he was the best and opened his own business. He still trains up his own plumbers HIMSELF. I sent my nephew to him, he makes jouneyman in a year, and is well paid.
I just got a job as qc in machine shop that makes airplane landing gear. I start monday, I'm excited and a little scared I've never been in manufacturing before but the people that hired me believe in me.
Sad thing is that more and more landing gear manufacturing is being shipped overseas. The existance of holding company buyouts and selloffs have ruined most manufacturing sectors and depleted America's ability to build our own equipment. Every company that I worked for is out of business because of being bought out and stripped bare, the place I recently retired from is owned by another holding company and is up for sale........America has become unsustainable.
Mechanical Technician here, working within the University Mech workshops, I had a range of journeymen, from Rolls Royce, to Tool and Die Engineers of westclox, starret trained, to Singer sowing machine engineers. I learned every facet of mech machine shop, from turning, milling, slab milling, even shaper machines, radial arm drills, milling, slab milling, flycuting and precision milling, to surface grinding, tool and cutter grinding, metrology inspection, welding (tig alum, steel,s. Steel, titanium), brazing to ultra high vaccum ×10-12 torr, bechfitting and handtools, assembly, slinging and lifting, heat treatment .. hmm whatelse have I forgot. This was all done making the weird and wonderfull for various physics research groups, from solid state, gravitational waves, high energy, etc.. as stated the pay was ok not high but a great time was had in both learning and doing, and a big thankyouto my journeymen some of whom are now gone 😢. The best time in my life with those guys. My learning was manual but i did bring one of the first cnc machines into the uni, have learned prototrack since but to be honest its great but there is a loss of user skill and ingunuity (aka as a mech person i love the repeatability of cnc but love the old school methods more.
Im 39 and the youngest journeymen in one of the largest shops in the u.s.a. were always looking for apprentice. I come from 3 generations of tool makers so ive always known this to be a good trade. Shops generally pay very well for there tool makers.
To ellaborate: 1st Apprentice: Teach them to do thing perfectly 2nd Apprentice: Teach them that and teach them speed 3rd Apprentice: Teach them that and teach them where they can cheat Saga of a Master, Rewt, 2019
I graduated from vocational school as Tool and Die Maker in 2013 at Finland. Because the factories in Finland do not value expertise unless the expert is an engineer from University of Applied Sciences, knowledge of the whole profession of Tool and Die Maker is unknow
Hi madam I am ANIL have 3 years experience in plastic and aluminium part CNC milling machine (VMC) operator Tool room machinist any requirement's info me Thanks Regards Anil aniltoorane143@gmail.com
I'm a toolmaker 30+ years great trade but kids just aren't interested they think it's dirty which its not my grandfather was a toolmaker and wore a suit to work every day its a pity as we are needed it keep production of everything going
always worked fast food turned 18 never changed a tire got a job as a tool and dye, let me tell you factor people will toughen you up real quick if you’re a newbie, sink or swim 😂
I'm just finishing my first year of my apprenticeship, I work in injection molding. What's something you wish you would have known when you were first starting out.
@@dougconner95 That I knew absolutely nothing, shut up and do what you're told. If you show hard work, i.e., effort (sweeping floor, cleaning up chips, changing coolant, stoning die shoes, etc) everyone in the shop notices, everyone. Oh, and when you're not around they talk about you and your potential behind your back. Since you don't know how to judge you on skill (since you have none) they judge your effort and honesty.
@@dougconner95 Also, another bit of advice. If a Master Toolmaker shows you how to do something, no matter how trivial...do it exactly the way he taught you. Exactly. Another will come along and show you how to do it, do it the new Masters way...exactly. Once you graduate, they'll all tell you to find a way that works for you. If you don't do it exactly the way they show you, they most likely won't teach you anything else.
Hello! Are there any good books on this subject? Actually, there are three different kinds of dies - for injection molding, for hydraulic presses and for vibration and high-pressure brick making machines. We run one factory in China where we produce molds for brick making machines. It is good to know the latest developments in the field and if anyone can help with some link to good book or internet forum, I'll be very happy to have your support!
I am pursing iti.my trade is tool and die maker. I want to know about job and vacancies...kindly tell me that after completing my iti where I go for job or trening. Can I do a small start up after completing my iti and which field is perfect for it.
I've been in this trade for 26 years and sure you can make a decent living and wage but the working environment is absolutely brutal. Before anyone disagrees with what I say below keep in mind the reason they are always looking for apprentices is usually for 2 reasons; 1. They can hire you on the cheap and 2. Your young and easily persuaded to believe the lies they tell you. Apprentices who begin in this trade realize after many years working in the trenches its not a career its just a job and your just another number to eventually be layed off. They hire another cheap apprentice, rinse and repeat. If you like consistently working 6 days/ 55hrs+ per week (sometimes 7) this is the trade for you. Don't ever get sick or say you cannot make it in for whatever reason because you will get nothing but grief. Raises are non-existant unless you jump ship and move to another shop or upper company position. If your working on the shop floor you will have to contend with; co-worker egos and their unsafe work habits; being exposed to harmful chemicals like coolants and carbide dust; and being talked down to from upper management office staff who think they are smarter than you since your just another grunt on the shop floor. Also don't forget the job deadlines are almost impossible to complete on time, the Chinese can do it faster and cheaper, so the company has to under bid and then all the stress is on you to get it done even faster. Steer clear and find a real career if your young.
Why would you put out this negativity? I am young and have been a certified journeyman for 4 years now and have experienced nothing but great things and so had my fellow classmates and co workers, you sound like the old school tool makers who I have worked with who couldn’t change with the times and adapt with technology, or maybe you just got a really bad deal somewhere or just had a really unfortunate situation, idk your struggles or your life but do not put down the trade as a whole, that is extremely selfish and insanely ignorant, It is an great trade and a something that works your brain and something to be proud of and something to make a great living on, Unless you are working for a small mom and pop shop every company in the state I live in pays 70+ for tool makers and if you go and master the cnc and robotics side of the isle you easily make 6 figures so idk what your experience have been but trust me whatever your perception of the trade is, you are not at all accurate, maybe with your own experience but definitely not as a trade as a whole
totally agree, and the money is shit also. at one time i was so beat after doing 55 hr week ran car off the road luckly did'nt kill myself. i did this job for 50 years.
@@Lol1popshow1You're young and haven't seen 40+ years of steady decline in wages. My wages when I finished my apprenticeship would be equivalent to $185,000 in 2024 dollars.
I have been doing this for 30 plus years. Construction trades have being blown up. Our trade is harder and more stressful. I'm a Die maker. Car MFG is going to be fu@ked in the next 5 years.
Who is watching this In Los Angeles CA. I been doing this for 1 year now n sadly I'm struggling so much due to the guy that is supposed to teach me he just doesn't want to teach anyone n honestly I found it kind of fun . But my place I work at is paying nothing for this
I’ve worked at a tool and die shop almost 6 months, going for a 2yr degree. It’s an ok job but I’d rather have my own machines and not work for anybody else
Hi iam shijil George iam completed in tool and die making course in India. I have one year experience, now iam in Belgium .any vecancy for tool die maskers in Belgium
I have a similar story, I tried a college course in design and drafting and hated every class except for the introduction to the shop, which was necessary so we knew about the machines, the teacher explained that at least a fifth of students in this course would end up switching to gm or t&d because they enjoyed the hands on stuff more. I was one of that fifth of people and haven't looked back! I work in a small shop for coop right now and surprisingly met my girlfriend through tool and die, who would've thought right? It's a wild trade and has drastically changed my life for the better, I highly consider it for people who enjoy puzzles, and working with your hands
The key phrase is that tool and die is completely necessary for manufacturing to exist...........and if manufacturing doesn't exist neither will tool and die. America needs to wake up and not only bring manufacturing back to actually have an economy, but bring back apprenticeship programs in all trades so we as a nation dont have to learn it from scratch. The company I just retired from was not interested in any hand off of knowledge before I quit because they are cought up in the Holding company game and are only interested in skimming any money they can before selling off whats left when they are done. Its a damn shame because I have a lot to offer but it appears my knowledge will not be tapped into
Unfortunately industries that are heavily invested in just in time mfg and lean mfg concepts view tool and die makers as non-value added overhead. They continually nickel and dime you to death and try to phase you out as much as they can by using off the shelf stuff and outsourcing the work to an ever shrinking index of vendors.
Company "heads" have always downplayed the absolute necessity of Tool.& Die Makers. Can't have us grunts believing that we're so critical to a company's survival that it would be an existential threat to them if we all quit. They really believe we're that clueless and dumb. SMFH
This is obviously an ad through the colleges of Canada. I have been a toolmaker for over 25 years there will be no more new build in Canada. I home line dies here in canada that are built in China. The shop in china has over a 150 cnc mills. They can have a die machined before you order your steel. The tool makers that are in demand are finishers. They can not be produced in a collage or stamping plant. These toolmakers take years to gain there skills in the press developing tools. This trade is highly cyclical, and is nearing the end of its cycle. And if that is not enough government is charging a new carbon tax which will destroy manufacturing in Canada.
I have seen tools outsourced in China. I wouldn't buy from them under any circumstances. Poor quality, poor design, poor workmanship. We had an engineer who sourced a tool from China that came with a hardened tool steel stripper. First double hit it became high velocity gravel and hurt someone. The engineer was gone less than a month after that.
How much experience do you have ? I am Industrial engineer but I will started to study in a training center about tool and die maker. I need to know if I can get a best best job with this new technical career...
nobody get mad,i don't think a cnc operator is a machinist,he doesn't pick feeds or speeds,computer has all yhe info in it,operate a manual HBM,4 or 5 inch spindle 100 inch table,open table set ups,use a 4ft square turn table,make a top hat for a back hoe,keep bores in line 180 degree ,from one side to the other strait in line,i give .001 tolerance,good luck cnc button pusher
michael heinen hold a dozen random shaped deep pockets on size depth and location in a large mold base to plus or minus .0002 tolerance without ever taking the plate out of the mill . Good luck manual machinist
Operators work with offsets usually, bringing the parts into tolerance. They also change the feedrate and spindle speed, and should know their feed and spindle rates pretty well. If a groove has a plus .0005 minus nothing tolerance, they are responisble if the part comes out bad. Its machining, not just pressing go
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Went to college out of high school and earned a bachelor's in accounting. Once I got a job In the field I hated it. Lucky enough to get offered a tool and die apprenticeship after taking some cnc classes. It's a very satisfying trade and will be heavily in demand. Always learning and Getting paid to play
is that why everybody wants to be a teacher at a community college? work part time cause this maybe is nt paying much
Lmao my story exactly. Desk jobs are not for me.
You’re absolutely right- we need more tool and die makers. I received my journeyman’s card in 1982 and worked as a tool and die maker in very intricate machines, injections and compression molds, and dies for eight years. We were essential to the efficient running of the production areas. I have retired from owning my own business and I earned multiple,degrees along the way, which tool me out of too, and die, though it was the basis for my deep understanding of how things are made. So, Tool and Die is the basis of much of my knowledge and skills set. Now retired I do woodworking. Because of my T&D experience, I can make anything! I hope young folks read this and find an apprenticeship in this great and fun trade.
I looked up tool and die repair on RUclips and came across this video. This Randy dude kind of has a similar upbringing to me as in having no idea about tool and die but was interested, and took general shop classes in high school
Ive been doing this since highschool. 20 years. Pretty good work
Went to college for a semester now starting my tool and die apprenticeship (I’m about to turn 22) and I could not be happier. Such a satisfying job always learning and like he said 2 days are practically never a like. Wish I had learned about this in school but like him I also stumbled onto it by accident but could not be happier.
Still happy and satisfying ?
need an update, apprentice.
It’s such a good business to go into!! My dad does it and he earns a really good salary
Hey you are from which country? I am also trying to get work of dies so if u'll provide me email it will be helpfull
@Luke Hadley can we become mechanical engineer by doing diploma in tools n die making?
@@zorojuro7731 yes
As a tool and die maker you have the skills to solve problems that engineers cant even see. Im only 30 years old and earn over 6 figures started as a tool and die maker and worked my way up to Manufacturing engineer. I didnt pay a dime for schooling real new age tool and die maker need to be able to design a die from just a part print on the computer and have the knowledge to program all machines that are used to make it.
It is a great trade, has a bad habit of people who have had bad experiences just knock the whole trade because they think their experience is everyone’s experience, but the answer is NO the trade is alive and well and booming, and if you can master cnc and robotics you are almost guaranteed a 6 figure salary
Just Qualified. Will be studying Mechanical engineering while working as a Tool and die maker. 🤙🤙really looking forward to it.
That's good. The best engineers come from a mechanical background.
That's the route I went, after apprenticeship, company would pay your tuition. Took them up on it. I'm now a Tooling engineer. If anyone asks though, I'm a Tool & Die Maker, had to work harder for that one.
Master CNC program and take some robotics courses and your salary will rocke
@@scottrackley4457 if you don't mind me asking is your salary good?
@@al-kazaz9032 It's comfortable, because they know I can go elsewhere for more. My bargaining position is high, but I like the job, the guys, the pace, and my responsibilities. Plus, I get to train apprentices from time to time in CAD, CAM, and 3D modeling. I like my job.
Never a dull moment in this field
Wrong, tools are constantly dulling and needing grinding every day with this work
@@metalflameful Yeah, nah, I can and have reground cutters, unless they're less than a half inch you don't bother. Bigger than that, get an insert cutter.
@@metalflamefullol
I have an engineering degree, doing a machinist certification now and much happier. Tool and die is very cool!! Thank you, i’ve become more interested in it overtime
It's a pity, that a degree can be done, without at least 6 years experience coming through a trade, nothing against doing a degree, good on you, bit a lot of your education is being provided from people that have been professional students, ( engineering hobbyists), sadly I had to deal and redesign a lot of work produced by degree engineers, at the repeated cost of companies that employed the degree engineers, I know there will be a lot experienced people out there that will agree
@@RobertFlynn-i4h good lord yes, young engineers don't even understand basic measurement, which it the bedrock of toolmakers. "You're going to change this without even knowing what it is?" is usually a dead stop for conversations with them. Buys you a couple months before you hit them with the solution you thought up in a week.
As someone who has been doing this for a couple decades, I'd say a T + D maker is a machinist. The difference is in your focus, not the skills. I've done 5 axis production work, manuals, lathes, mills, grinders, edms, and they're all a part of the same large skill set. Production is generally focused on doing the same thing better and better with ever increasing efficiency, tool making is working on one part at a time, making it precise and correct. In production, you're running a well established process (or creating what will be a well established process), in tool making you are figuring it out as you go most of the time doing a one of a kind part and just being careful not to machine yourself into a corner or scrap the part. Unfortunately, it does not pay well relative to the actual difficulty and depth of the skills required for the job. This is because you will always be competing with 5-10 people in China who collectively make about the same amount you do. You'll make a lot more as a plumber, electrician, or some other technical field that cannot be outsourced as easily, and that's why the trade is dwindling in the US relative to other trades. You can still make good money, but you need to reach the top of the field and be in a company that facilitates this, or work independently from your own garage shop.
Maybe in your shop they're machinists, where I work we do new builds and prototype work.
@jake canebrake I can only speak for myself, but I make decent cash, live in a nice house, etc. Defense industry jobs don't get outsourced, but it's not easy to get in and took a long time working for a lot less to get the qualifications. Still better to be an electrician or a plumber, Hvac, etc if you're looking for a solid trade skill that will get you a decent paying job anywhere. You become a machinist only if you like that type of work.
@jake canebrake during my 4 year apprenticeship I've gone from 19 dollars an hour starting, to 27.50 by the end. By the time I cap out as a journeyman I'll be making 32.50, this isn't even at the big 3 btw. So no, I won't be making a few dollars more than an unskilled plant worker. Machinists and tradesman in general make really good money in certain parts of the US. I'm sure its the same in other countries aswell.
A Master Tool and Die Maker vs. Machinist is like comparing nurses to neurosurgeons.
@@scottrackley4457 how so? I’m currently in machining technology courses and I’m in the process of figuring out what I would like to do after school
Here's the deal, do your time in the apprenticeship get done and grind it for a few years. Move on to learning another aspect of the trade then another and another. Never ever turn down an opportunity to learn something else and excel at all. Always remember that EVERYBODY is replaceable but YOU want to be the guy that's a lot harder to replace. That's how you make the money. Remember if you're you're the smartest person in the room...you're in the wrong room. Peace to all my fellow toolmakers out there. And just so everyone can know Tool and Die makers are NOT mould makers.
"Remember if you're you're the smartest person in the room...you're in the wrong room." Yes, you can also replace "smartest" with "most skilled".
Te felicito por tu buena explicación 👍 es una realidad. Lo que hace progresar a los paises es la industria no hay otra forma. Tienen el ejemplo de China. Conocer el oficio de Tool & Die es una gran opción para los jóvenes de hoy día. Pero tienen que tener una buena educación sobre el oficio y buenos instructores o profesores . Yo estudie en Tool & Die Training Center en Bayamon Puerto Rico. Me encantó tanto que cambio mi vida, lo disfruté por 40 años. A los jóvenes de hoy día les aconsejo decen esa oportunidad de vida y disfruten el oficio y veran su progreso personal y de su pais . 😊 Dios los bendiga siempre 🙏 🙌 .
i started as an apprentice 3 months ago right out of school and i love it, i walked into the toolroom and asked for a job and got one simple as, i learn every day and make good money and to think that just 3 months ago i didnt even know what a toolmaker was
You'll learn every day till you retire. I've been at it 24 years, I still don't know a damned thing.
Hope you stick with it! Throw in some CNC skills and robotics and you sir will make a dang good living and have a sharp mind
How did you learn about the apprenticeship? Is there a certain company that offers this?
We'll I'm 35 and just started going to school tool and die, so there's that
Hope you stick with it brother, those 4 years go fast, and it is well worth it, all the people saying negative things about the trade are the people who failed to adapt
I’m as of writing this, officially 1 month away from graduating my apprenticeship with my journeyman’s as a toolmaker. My main interests in getting into this industry is not solely because of the money. When I was in 8th grade, (2015-ish) my dad told me I had to start thinking about what I wanted to do when I grow up. The next year, I decided to do some research and look at the average age of a machinist and toolmaker. The average age of a machinist was about 40 years old, while a toolmaker was on average about 50. That rationale to me meant that by 2030, I’ll be very much in demand since more often than not, positions where people retire from them are much harder to be filled than a firing and hiring.
You even think like a toolmaker. You have to think about tool obsolescence. Welcome to the club. Did they tell you about the not knowing anything still and learning everyday? I would look into getting into design, especially solidworks and pro-e when young.
@@scottrackley4457 yes, as I’m currently 75% through my degree in MET (Mechanical Engineering Technology) I’ve already done a few classes on CAD, NX, and SolidWorks.
Worked the diemaking/ machinist trades for 45 year's. It was good to me, but I wonder and worry about the skill levels needed nowadays, and the number of places offering apprenticeships. The managers have dumbed it down so much in order to hold wages down. Their collusion is going to come back to bite them with a lack of a skilled pool to pick from. I hope I am wrong.
Sir, It has dumbed down. We have no high school shops to feed anyone remotely mechanically inclined.
I am a Red seal Tool and die maker/Machinist/Welder (yes all 3 red seals) trade jobs are not dieing the lack of people wanting to work with their hand is, also the biggest part of most trade jobs is the wages are not keeping up with the times and people see skilled trades as a second best.
I'm in Kentucky and a lot of places around here want journeyman level tool and die makers without paying them shit. A handful of places pay pretty good but that's it. Wages in general for manufacturing jobs in Kentucky are pathetic. $10-$12 an hour.
I totally agree, but I much rather do fabricating and work with my hands than in an office!!
I think most of it is..."oh, you work with your hands?" "you get dirty and get cuts on your hands?" kinda stuff. Looking down on trades. I went to school with a guy, same grade as me, learned to be a plumber. He now lives in a 500K house with 10 acres, because he was the best and opened his own business. He still trains up his own plumbers HIMSELF. I sent my nephew to him, he makes jouneyman in a year, and is well paid.
My father started as a tool and die maker, and now works as a mechanical engineer making around 120K a year. It's a fantastic career to jump into!
It's a beautiful profession, for sure.
I just got a job as qc in machine shop that makes airplane landing gear. I start monday, I'm excited and a little scared I've never been in manufacturing before but the people that hired me believe in me.
How's the job so far?
Sad thing is that more and more landing gear manufacturing is being shipped overseas. The existance of holding company buyouts and selloffs have ruined most manufacturing sectors and depleted America's ability to build our own equipment. Every company that I worked for is out of business because of being bought out and stripped bare, the place I recently retired from is owned by another holding company and is up for sale........America has become unsustainable.
Quality control?
Im a tool and die maker and its such a good trade you will always have a job.
Bro
am a tool and die making student I like to learn more
How did it go?
Mechanical Technician here, working within the University Mech workshops, I had a range of journeymen, from Rolls Royce, to Tool and Die Engineers of westclox, starret trained, to Singer sowing machine engineers. I learned every facet of mech machine shop, from turning, milling, slab milling, even shaper machines, radial arm drills, milling, slab milling, flycuting and precision milling, to surface grinding, tool and cutter grinding, metrology inspection, welding (tig alum, steel,s. Steel, titanium), brazing to ultra high vaccum ×10-12 torr, bechfitting and handtools, assembly, slinging and lifting, heat treatment .. hmm whatelse have I forgot. This was all done making the weird and wonderfull for various physics research groups, from solid state, gravitational waves, high energy, etc.. as stated the pay was ok not high but a great time was had in both learning and doing, and a big thankyouto my journeymen some of whom are now gone 😢. The best time in my life with those guys. My learning was manual but i did bring one of the first cnc machines into the uni, have learned prototrack since but to be honest its great but there is a loss of user skill and ingunuity (aka as a mech person i love the repeatability of cnc but love the old school methods more.
Im 39 and the youngest journeymen in one of the largest shops in the u.s.a. were always looking for apprentice. I come from 3 generations of tool makers so ive always known this to be a good trade. Shops generally pay very well for there tool makers.
Can I ask where this is??
Get em Chewy, please train more. (it gets easier after the 2nd apprentice you train)
To ellaborate:
1st Apprentice: Teach them to do thing perfectly
2nd Apprentice: Teach them that and teach them speed
3rd Apprentice: Teach them that and teach them where they can cheat
Saga of a Master, Rewt, 2019
How’s it going now ?
Tool and Die making skills never ending processing , its more esstial , to mankind
David Abilash hi
Part of the two percent here!
We lost 140 people last year to retirement, and can't get people in fast enough.
Hey
Love the Tool & Die skilled trade! Earn while you Learn.
A factory I’m about to start work at pays their tool and die makers ridiculously good. I’m willing to learn it.
great interview questions/script flow
I graduated from vocational school as Tool and Die Maker in 2013 at Finland. Because the factories in Finland do not value expertise unless
the expert is an engineer from University of Applied Sciences, knowledge of the whole profession of Tool and Die Maker is unknow
i now study as engineer
because I need a job
That's kinda sad. God made Toolmakers to fix what engineers designs broke.
FYI...I need a Tool and Die maker for our company in Georgia! Must know plastic injection molding tho.
Danielle Baird
I'm specialist
Over 22 years experinse
But I am Syrian live in Syria??
Danielle do you have a linked in?
Danielle Baird am in manusdanam@gmail.com
@daniel...will you provide ur email..if you need a tool die maker
Hi madam
I am ANIL have 3 years experience in plastic and aluminium part CNC milling machine (VMC) operator
Tool room machinist any requirement's info me
Thanks
Regards
Anil
aniltoorane143@gmail.com
I'm a toolmaker 30+ years great trade but kids just aren't interested they think it's dirty
which its not my grandfather was a toolmaker and wore a suit to work every day
its a pity as we are needed it keep production of everything going
How’s it going these days ?
How’s it going now ?
@@e2sguy great
Madera Community College has a complete manufacturing program including Industry 4.0 Dimensional Metrology lab.
I just became a skilled trades toolmaker for Stellanis......I'm 33...I'm part of that 2 percent under 35
Best for tools and die Maker 🏆👍👍💯
True, robotics and computer generated designs can be very expensive where common sense prevails.
The hole point in getting into a trade is to be the best an do it all the way to the end. Just opinion here
Hello! Congratulations for your job!
always worked fast food turned 18 never changed a tire got a job as a tool and dye, let me tell you factor people will toughen you up real quick if you’re a newbie, sink or swim 😂
Well said young man, we need more apprentices. Hope you graduated and don't have to empty coolant as much.
signed, Toolmaker over 35 (actually 50)
I'm just finishing my first year of my apprenticeship, I work in injection molding. What's something you wish you would have known when you were first starting out.
@@dougconner95 That I knew absolutely nothing, shut up and do what you're told. If you show hard work, i.e., effort (sweeping floor, cleaning up chips, changing coolant, stoning die shoes, etc) everyone in the shop notices, everyone. Oh, and when you're not around they talk about you and your potential behind your back. Since you don't know how to judge you on skill (since you have none) they judge your effort and honesty.
@@dougconner95 Also, another bit of advice. If a Master Toolmaker shows you how to do something, no matter how trivial...do it exactly the way he taught you. Exactly. Another will come along and show you how to do it, do it the new Masters way...exactly. Once you graduate, they'll all tell you to find a way that works for you. If you don't do it exactly the way they show you, they most likely won't teach you anything else.
@@scottrackley4457 thank you. All that is really good advice. I appreciate it
@@dougconner95 all the old hands is just wanting to gage your info uptake.
How should i pick that die its very heavy load. I always call some people for help
What is the name of machine that will help me
Pls reply fast
Hello! Are there any good books on this subject? Actually, there are three different kinds of dies - for injection molding, for hydraulic presses and for vibration and high-pressure brick making machines. We run one factory in China where we produce molds for brick making machines. It is good to know the latest developments in the field and if anyone can help with some link to good book or internet forum, I'll be very happy to have your support!
Hey i also own industry which deals with dies so if any work available plz contact me.
saurabhchaudhari45@gmail.com
I am pursing iti.my trade is tool and die maker. I want to know about job and vacancies...kindly tell me that after completing my iti where I go for job or trening.
Can I do a small start up after completing my iti and which field is perfect for it.
Are you asking if you can start a shop you own after completing training?
This is what I’m in school for
I've been in this trade for 26 years and sure you can make a decent living and wage but the working environment is absolutely brutal. Before anyone disagrees with what I say below keep in mind the reason they are always looking for apprentices is usually for 2 reasons; 1. They can hire you on the cheap and 2. Your young and easily persuaded to believe the lies they tell you. Apprentices who begin in this trade realize after many years working in the trenches its not a career its just a job and your just another number to eventually be layed off. They hire another cheap apprentice, rinse and repeat.
If you like consistently working 6 days/ 55hrs+ per week (sometimes 7) this is the trade for you. Don't ever get sick or say you cannot make it in for whatever reason because you will get nothing but grief. Raises are non-existant unless you jump ship and move to another shop or upper company position. If your working on the shop floor you will have to contend with; co-worker egos and their unsafe work habits; being exposed to harmful chemicals like coolants and carbide dust; and being talked down to from upper management office staff who think they are smarter than you since your just another grunt on the shop floor. Also don't forget the job deadlines are almost impossible to complete on time, the Chinese can do it faster and cheaper, so the company has to under bid and then all the stress is on you to get it done even faster. Steer clear and find a real career if your young.
Why would you put out this negativity? I am young and have been a certified journeyman for 4 years now and have experienced nothing but great things and so had my fellow classmates and co workers, you sound like the old school tool makers who I have worked with who couldn’t change with the times and adapt with technology, or maybe you just got a really bad deal somewhere or just had a really unfortunate situation, idk your struggles or your life but do not put down the trade as a whole, that is extremely selfish and insanely ignorant, It is an great trade and a something that works your brain and something to be proud of and something to make a great living on, Unless you are working for a small mom and pop shop every company in the state I live in pays 70+ for tool makers and if you go and master the cnc and robotics side of the isle you easily make 6 figures so idk what your experience have been but trust me whatever your perception of the trade is, you are not at all accurate, maybe with your own experience but definitely not as a trade as a whole
totally agree, and the money is shit also. at one time i was so beat after doing 55 hr week ran car off the road luckly did'nt kill myself. i did this job for 50 years.
How should i pick that die its very heavy load. I always call some people for help
What is the name of machine that will help me
Pls reply fast
Disagree, you work for the wrong people.
@@Lol1popshow1You're young and haven't seen 40+ years of steady decline in wages. My wages when I finished my apprenticeship would be equivalent to $185,000 in 2024 dollars.
My dad does the same but he is a press manager qualified robotics programer and qualified tool and die maker
I see all of these in my shop at school
Is this a good option to study in this year.
Iam interested but my doubt is that does the scope of this job will end in the future
Never ever
Yes, where can I get into a real, builders tool and die, in CO. Have some shop experience, no CNC though...
Sir I am sheet metal tool and die Maker in all part jigs and inspection fixture Honda and Suzuki and hondai
You like a union or non-union shop?
I am also tool &die maker still studying, what are the qualities for tool &die maker
You learn the skills to make anything you want. Get Solidworks experience or whatever software your company uses and take it to a new level.
Must be able to work for low wages for ten hours per day and endure massive layoffs every 6-8 years
J R thanks man!
@@e2sguy Perfect description!
Is it easy to find a job?
YES! and well worth it!
Doing advanced diploma in tool and die making at igtr aurangabad
Sir any vakanci
I have been doing this for 30 plus years. Construction trades have being blown up. Our trade is harder and more stressful. I'm a Die maker. Car MFG is going to be fu@ked in the next 5 years.
I work in a die shop and everyone is age of retiring and nobody wants to retire so people like me are leaving.
Who is watching this In Los Angeles CA. I been doing this for 1 year now n sadly I'm struggling so much due to the guy that is supposed to teach me he just doesn't want to teach anyone n honestly I found it kind of fun . But my place I work at is paying nothing for this
I am a tool maker.. any job vacancies??
If U Want To Start Ur Own Tool n Die Making Business How Much Initial Investment Is Required ! N Wat Type Of Machinery Is Required !
I’ve worked at a tool and die shop almost 6 months, going for a 2yr degree. It’s an ok job but I’d rather have my own machines and not work for anybody else
Doesn’t everyone 🤣🤣
How’s it going now ?
Hi iam shijil George iam completed in tool and die making course in India. I have one year experience, now iam in Belgium .any vecancy for tool die maskers in Belgium
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That trade will die off. 3D printing will replace that easily
Nice!
I have a similar story, I tried a college course in design and drafting and hated every class except for the introduction to the shop, which was necessary so we knew about the machines, the teacher explained that at least a fifth of students in this course would end up switching to gm or t&d because they enjoyed the hands on stuff more. I was one of that fifth of people and haven't looked back! I work in a small shop for coop right now and surprisingly met my girlfriend through tool and die, who would've thought right? It's a wild trade and has drastically changed my life for the better, I highly consider it for people who enjoy puzzles, and working with your hands
You found a Toolmakeress? You found a unicorn son, glad you caught her.
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Tool and die maker iti se course karne k baad kisi company m join karne k liye wo humse B TECH ki degree to nhi mangega
The key phrase is that tool and die is completely necessary for manufacturing to exist...........and if manufacturing doesn't exist neither will tool and die.
America needs to wake up and not only bring manufacturing back to actually have an economy, but bring back apprenticeship programs in all trades so we as a nation dont have to learn it from scratch. The company I just retired from was not interested in any hand off of knowledge before I quit because they are cought up in the Holding company game and are only interested in skimming any money they can before selling off whats left when they are done. Its a damn shame because I have a lot to offer but it appears my knowledge will not be tapped into
Unfortunately industries that are heavily invested in just in time mfg and lean mfg concepts view tool and die makers as non-value added overhead. They continually nickel and dime you to death and try to phase you out as much as they can by using off the shelf stuff and outsourcing the work to an ever shrinking index of vendors.
Company "heads" have always downplayed the absolute necessity of Tool.& Die Makers. Can't have us grunts believing that we're so critical to a company's survival that it would be an existential threat to them if we all quit. They really believe we're that clueless and dumb. SMFH
Elon Musk: "If you don't make stuff, there is no stuff"
I got this course of iti
This is obviously an ad through the colleges of Canada. I have been a toolmaker for over 25 years there will be no more new build in Canada. I home line dies here in canada that are built in China. The shop in china has over a 150 cnc mills. They can have a die machined before you order your steel. The tool makers that are in demand are finishers. They can not be produced in a collage or stamping plant. These toolmakers take years to gain there skills in the press developing tools. This trade is highly cyclical, and is nearing the end of its cycle. And if that is not enough government is charging a new carbon tax which will destroy manufacturing in Canada.
I have seen tools outsourced in China. I wouldn't buy from them under any circumstances. Poor quality, poor design, poor workmanship. We had an engineer who sourced a tool from China that came with a hardened tool steel stripper. First double hit it became high velocity gravel and hurt someone. The engineer was gone less than a month after that.
How’s things going now ?
Done it for over years live well raise 6 kids with my salary always overtime
Bro
I'm to learning Diploma in tool and die making
I am tool and die maker too
How much experience do you have ? I am Industrial engineer but I will started to study in a training center about tool and die maker. I need to know if I can get a best best job with this new technical career...
Hi i am mold designer ..i have t years experiance
I have 5 years experiance mold design
I have 28 year expiriance die m
Like he said no one teaches shit anymore they just want u to already have the experience so u can make them more money.
i am a tool and die maker i got job in your company
Its really a misconception ..Aim a Toolmaker specializes in Class A dies .. Tandem dies so from experience its not a Dying Trade.
Class A more niche imo
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nobody get mad,i don't think a cnc operator is a machinist,he doesn't pick feeds or speeds,computer has all yhe info in it,operate a manual HBM,4 or 5 inch spindle 100 inch table,open table set ups,use a 4ft square turn table,make a top hat for a back hoe,keep bores in line 180 degree ,from one side to the other strait in line,i give .001 tolerance,good luck cnc button pusher
michael heinen hold a dozen random shaped deep pockets on size depth and location in a large mold base to plus or minus .0002 tolerance without ever taking the plate out of the mill . Good luck manual machinist
Operators work with offsets usually, bringing the parts into tolerance. They also change the feedrate and spindle speed, and should know their feed and spindle rates pretty well. If a groove has a plus .0005 minus nothing tolerance, they are responisble if the part comes out bad. Its machining, not just pressing go
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I want job in your country... I am also tool and die maker.
Worked by hand bro 5axis lol
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I need wire cut job
I am wire cut oppreter from india
sir iam an die maker sheet metal fabricator exp 20 years give me job i am in pakistan
Iam tool and die maker to
Define your terms, before just jumping into the discussion. What in the world is “tool and die”
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Lol my grandpa owns 2 tool and die factories
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joe long ??
Nah, not enough money in it.
Been there , done that .
Tool room die makers
Cooking or floral lol