Congratulations🎊 I’m planning on getting one if the economy gets better🏁🏁 my restaurant has took a big shit due to Covid. I had to sell my 2013 viper to pay bills😵😭
I ordered a 50th Anniversary wide body 6 speed last December, got it in April and have put 4,500 miles on it. Coolest car I've owned in my 46 years on the road.
Best review I've seen so far. Just an FYI: the driver's seat can be lowered by pushing down on the "slider" seat adjuster on the left side of the seat. Instead of using it to move back and forth, push DOWN on the lever and that will LOWER the seat. Also, lifting UP on the FRONT part of the lever allows just the front part of the seat to raise. It's really customizable. I love my 2023 Challenger T/A 392 Widebody manual (of course!). It has the R/T, Scat Pack, Widebody, and T/A packages along with the 392 and the package that has the Deluxe interior and HID headlights. With the T/A package, you also get the Mopar Performance FUNCTIONAL cold air hood that ducts cold air directly to an open airbox with a huge conical air filter. It also contains the much larger air box from the Hellcat and the headlight thar has an open tube that rams air into it. Therefore, the unsilenced Hellcat airbox has 3 sources of cold air: the Mopar Performance hood (functional and unsilenced); the open headlight next to the real headlight that is ducted to the airbox via a tube; and finally, a huge hole in the bottom of the airbox itself. Therefore, the 3 areas of cold, filtered air to the 392 - with the T/A package from the factory. The car is also lowered half an inch and has larger sway bars than the Widebody package includes. I have learned about these extras via YT videos on the car. So, if you buy a Challenger, make sure that you get the Widebody and T/A packages with a manual transmission. Then, you'll be happy too EVERY time that you drive it!
You should get the 3M paint protection clear film on the front and I had the rear fender flares protected. The factory puts a small piece of paint protection on the rear fender flares it’s about 2” x 4” that’s useless. I spent $160.00 to get both rear fender flares done, so you can’t even tell it’s on there but they’re protected. The rear fender flare are like magnets for stone chips. That was the best money I spent. Nothing worse than having a new car and getting stone chips after couple of thousand miles.It’s cheaper to put this on then to have them repainted and clearcoated and not matching the original paint.
There has always been something special about the manual. I am 55 and learned to drive a manual as a kid. Own a '16 Scat Pack Shaker manual and a Demon. Been giving it some thought about trading the Scat Pack for a Hellcat manual but can't seem to part with the Scat. When I think about trading it in, I just take it for a spin and say "nope, I've got to keep it". Lol. Great video.
Great review. Im looking into buying one and have spent hours on youtube watching Challenger reviews. You were the first one who seemed to know a bit more about the car than just the hp and if it sound good! Also the cinematics were spot on.
Just bought an F8 Scatpack WB with manual and sunroof. Absolutely love it ! Wanted a Cuda when I was 16 (back in 1970) and finally got this. Have had lots of great cars, including a 70 Chevelle SS 454 convertible, but this is my favorite. Was set on F8 and manual and could only locate two and was unable to order, as production has ceased. Feel very fortunate to have gotten it. Thanks for the great review. Spot on. Dodge did a great job. So sad to see the muscle car era come to an end.
Wow, your trajectory is very similar to mine! I also had a 1970 LS6 454 4-psd convertible Chevelle, and a 70 AAR Cuda in Plum Crazy Purple. And you know what? I prefer my recently-acquired 2020 R/T Scat M6 Widebody! The only downsides are the lame 6th gear, which drops 700 RPMs instead of the 300-400 that it should, and the lousy placement of the throttle pedal (too close to the tranny well, and 1/2” too low for toe-heel downshifting. Beyond that, what a pleasure to drive! Dodge really hit a home run with this platform.
7:22 a lot of people was complaining about the they can't see in the blind spots so that's the reason why the seat is high. One thing good about Dodge when customers submit their thoughts and opinions Dodge listens same for the new style leather wrap dashboard which people complain about the previous plastic model dashboard
Dude. That’s nonsense. There is a HUGE blind spot about 70 degrees behind your right shoulder. When I come to any turn that’s not a right angle I turn the car to make it 90. PS. 0 - 60 around 4.5 seconds.
I bought the '19 Challenger R/T Scat Pack 392 Widebody with 8-speed auto last year in Octane Red Pearl and fully optioned. I daily drive it and I think it's the most amazing car I've owned in my life (I'm pushing 60). It's a lot of fun, gets a lot of looks and compliments, and it's comfortable and roomy and a great cruiser. I'm very impressed with the improvements in the adaptive cruise system over previous years. Tbh, I get tired of idiots making uninformed negative comments about the widebody, the weight, and the platform being old. If they hate it so much then why are they watching? It doesn't really matter to me. I friggen love this car. Fortunately, there's enough people out there supporting Challenger to keep them around and I'm glad because I finally have my chance to enjoy one.
Right on, Bill. I enjoy the car for what it is. There’s no pretence and that’s why I love driving it. As they say, haters gonna hate and they have no place on this channel.
Wow - how hard is it to drive without the Widebody package. I can't imagine driving a manual 392 Chsllenger without the Widebody, just because of traction issues when trying to launch with the narrower tires. Come to think of it, that must be FUN, just trying to get traction and sliding all around!
I've been loving my 2020 scatpack widebody challenger with a manual in GoMango for about one month now. It took 6 weeks to make and it was absolutely worth the wait. Thank you for your video on this spec'd car. I show it to all friends to get a better understanding of why I own one. 🤗
The hardest part of ordering one for me is choosing the color. I am partial to Blue to begin with and love both shades but somehow this cars lines in either Go Mango and F8 seem to speak the loudest to me. I would get one spec'd like this, and not get the red Brembos or the Sunroof which I have in another car and never really use it and it generally decreases head room. Congrats Jerry on your purchase. Now Dodge comes out with the 2021 T/A widebody so there's that to consider as well. Decisions decisions.
@@DuneDaddyO Decisions, decisions!! I know what you're going through. However, I just let my 21-year-old son spec out the car for me. I think he did great!! Whatever you choose, you're gonna love it. It'll grow on ya!
I have a 2016 scat pack shaker that I'm going to trade in on a 2021 scat pack shaker widebody for two reasons. One, it's brand new, and two, it's a widebody! I absolutely love these cars but I gotta have that widebody package! And manual is a must! I wouldn't get it without it! SAVE THE MANUALS!
I hope that you found one with those options. If not, the Dodge dealer in Newnan, GA USA still has a few Scat Pack manual Widebody Challengers and Chargers left. Not many though. Better acr fast if you want one!!
I just received mine. The heel toe is interesting in 8t as all the pedals are at different heights from one another. Thats really my only knock on it. Going from a 370Z to this, I honestly don't miss the smaller size as the trunk is so nice and huge. Motor sound is great even in stock form. Great review Brian!
am i the only person that prefers the narrow body? dont get me wrong, the widebody looks amazing and aggressive and performs better but to me the narrow body just looks more vintage. maybe im crazy i dont know
Shirt is on its way😍 watched this video at least 100 times searching for my perfect car, octane red shaker widebody manual got here 3 days ago frickn love it, thx for keeping me happy over the last year with the video👍
Congrats on your car! Enjoy! Did you find the merch store? Here’s a direct link: brianmakse.creator-spring.com/listing/save-the-manuals-november-2018?product=369
Hands down the Scat Pack Wide Body is the sweet spot of the Challengers, hence the reason when my local Florida dealer had the F8 Green, Shaker Wide Body, Swinger Edition, I jumped on it, all Last Call Special Editions, came in one design package, the F8 Green came with the 8-speed automatic, & if you wanted to exercise you're arm, the Challenger Sub-Lime Green was available with a 6-speed manual, but having my manual cars years ago, Trans Am's & Formula 350's @ the tender age of 65, I opted for the automatic. But with all said, I had the Hellcat, & other dual turbo brands, I'm happy as a pig in mud with this F8 Green, Challenger Scat Pack, my mod, they made 500 of the F8 Green, all automatics, 200 White Knuckle all automatics, 150 Sub-Lime Green 6-speed, 150 Sub-Lime Green, automatics. Glad I bought what I have, had my choice, luv the F8 Green just hard to keep the millage & speed down, it's a blast to drive & as for the Wide Body, 2nd to none handling!!! My only suggestion is to change your oil over to AMSOIL, it dropped my engine temp down by 15 to 20 degrees 0W/40 Signature AMSOIL, due to the makeup of this oil, far less friction, but I had to go through the break-in period before switching, & MOPAR, just endorsed the use of this brand, & living in Florida heat is in no short supply, lol. My only gripe, with the Shaker Package, is that no real engine venting, to allow heat buildup to escape when done driving, like the other mods, have top vents in the hood, heat rises, so I got into the practice of opening the hood up when home or a secure location to allow heat release.
Brian: I HAD a wide body Charger Scat Pack. LOVED that car in every way..EXCEPT ZF automatic. I will be ordering a new Challenger Scat Pack 6-speed manual to replace it next year. We are agreed that these cars are underappreciated due to the HC product. Scat Pack's are tremendous value and thoroughly sorted platforms as "modern" muscle cars. Well done video sir!
Just bought a 2021 SP Challenger WB, 6.4L. MANUAL trans, wouldn't have it any other way. Love running through those gesrs, makes me feel like a race car driver, ha. The wide body look is the only way I would have a challenger. It looks soooo cool. Pitch Black with a new ceramic coat. The owner's manual says don't go over 55mph for the first100 miles and not over 75 mph for 300 milles.
Bought the 2016 Scat with auto......in 2016. I regretted it because it's not my daily driver here in a big city. Opted for the manual here in Dec 21......much more fun.
Another great video Brian. According to my dealer, my Go Mango Widebody should be here any day now. Ah, the anticipation. Can't wait to get a hold of it.
I saved a manual when u customer ordered the same spec just black. I don’t need a lot of speed to feel the adrenaline. Just sit at a traffic light or shift to second before that skip shift screws you up. Lol I still love it. Fun car to be respected.
I own a 2020 Dodge Wide Body HellCat Daytona Charger. Number 308 out of 501 built. I have owned many many domestic and Import automobiles. This is by far my most favorite car I have ever owned. It is radically fast and comfortable. I hate my Stereo because it sounds so incredible excellent. When i arrive at my destination I will sit in my car and listen to my music to end before i get out of car. His name is beast and he is the White Knight ruling anywhere he goes. Good Tube
Just bought a Challenger R/T with the six speed and you can definitely put humans in the back! I’m 6’3” and I can sit behind myself. I can easily get three kids in the back or two adults comfortably.
Years ago, I sat in a 392 Scat Pack, before the wide bodies. It was a 6 speed with that gearshift! That knob felt good in my hand. I'm a Mustang fan, but I like the shift knob in manual Challengers better than manual Mustangs. Also I understand the Tremec is better than the Chinese made Getrag.
The shifter is still the same. I never liked the Mustang manual gearboxes until the GT350, but the GT500 kinda negates that idea altogether with that wicked dual clutch.
I put a Hurst Pistol Grip shifter in my 2023 Dodge Challenger 392 T/A Widebody and it made a HUGE difference in how the shifting feels. Best change I ever made! Hurst has the Pistol Grip shifter available for the Tremec transmission. YES, the Tremec is MUCH better than the Gertrag; that's why it's in the Shelby GT350 and all V8 DODGE lines.
Good video! Professor! I don't like those fender flares, it look like an after though! I bought a 2022 Scat and can't keep my rear end out of it! Trac mode drinks gas, sport mode does a little better on gas, auto mode gets almost the same mileage as my 2020 5.7 Challenger. But I didn't buy it for gas mileage! If you can't afford to feed it, don't buy it!
@@BrianMakse Is it because reverse gear will get blocked or something? Becuase i was thinking to get dodge challenger manual from WRX Subaru. The subaru reverse which has to pull up the shift which is more safe i found. But for dodge is it would be the same since the shift is close
I really like your improved format. I DO agree that they are the sweet spot but the pricing in CDN is too close to a hellcat. Which Color do you like best? Or renders the lines of the widebody the best you think? Lol at your last statement...👍
2019 metallic grey with track package. I got it for 1,7500 under invoice, so I couldn't pass it up. However I love the Challenger and may have gotten it but couldn't find that color combo in a wide body and scat pac
Hi Brian enjoyed the program,,,a couple questions though,,,what ad ons increased the price of the scatpack to $69385 ? i assume the widebody version is included in that price as well as taxes?. not includeing delivery and gas guzzler tax
This one has the goofy stripes, sound system, summer tires, interior trim, and a couple of other things to get it to that price. Yes, that’s including the WB.
I’ve been looking for this exact trim with the manual and I can’t find it near where I live. All I can find is a Widebody scatpack with Automatic or a base Scatpack with a manual.
Well that answers my question. The functional hood scoop on the other models, namely the T/A package is not necessary to produce 485 hp. Mostly for cosmetics
Intakes, hood scoops, even exhaust changes do nothing to increase power or torque by themselves. Bolt ons are of limited use today, as everything is controlled by the ECU.
My dad has a 2016 Automatic Skatpack widebody. Cherry red, with a brand new super charger he just put in it. Its one hell of a car. Can blow the doors off of any hellcat.
@@BrianMakse Because the car is 70K, and the scatpack is only around 45-50K. Also, when he did all that, it only cost him around 8K at the most to get hardend pistons, etc. And when he added the super charger, he took it to the drag strip, an managed to beat a Hellcat, so I think hes happier with his car. But then again, no hate towards the hellcat, the hellcat is a really nice car.
Nice my friend just bought a used challenger scat pack manual 2017 for 27,899 out the door was 31 thousand and some change but brand new there expensive and it's nothing like manual its just so much fun to drive I'm thinking about buying one myself I need a V8 back in my life lol
So Monday, June 3rd 2024, is the last day (so Im told) that Stallantis is offering deals incentives. It seems after Monday, the dealers own what they have and they become used cars. The last 2 weeks Ive been shopping with several options available, but not much movement from the already "discounted" prices. Fast forward to yesterday, and they are dwindling fast, with dealers not too happy to sell you the car with your own financing. I found one (not taken delivery yet) for 51k in Octane Red. Stay tuned.
I’m slightly befuddled about a manual versus automatic transmission. I think I’m going to go for the automatic which I would not have considered 40 years ago.
I have a 2020 scat 392 with 6k miles I just picked up. Took it out last night for pretty much the first drive. I'm hearing a clunk when engaging/disengaging the clutch from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd a little sometimes going to 4th. Sounds like its somewhere in the back/rear. Almost like something's loose in the trunk (it's empty) Then on the highway in 6th doing anything over 60 mph, when I let off the throttle or just barely on it to maintain speed I'm getting a strong vibration and noise in the shifter. Is all that normal? Is the clunking me, my timing, coming out of the throttle to quickly when shiting? Should it vibrate like that on the highway?
you know, brian, this car has always been one of my very fav cars. the only reason i have never had any in my driver is...the one flavor it never offered?, a rag top.
you can make the scat pack challenger AWD????!?!?!? 0:53 also I was able to sit two full grown men in the back seat with no sweat. Getting them in and out is a different story, but there is PLENTY of space in the back seat.
Need your expert opinion brian ,,the starting price according to the Dodge Build your price website has the challenger widebody listed at $54,995 with the plus package listed at $1595 and convenience package listed at $1095 sunroof $1495 SRT SPOILER $875 totaling $ 69,359 includeing taxes and destination fee ,not sure what the gas guzzler fee is.not includeing any incentives ,,,Do you think hypothetically,, this vehicle is doable out the door at $70,000 give or take? ,,,, thanks
My Grandmother is going to kill me when she finds out I ordered a 2021 Scat Pack....told her it was a ... "V6 with a manual".....I'm going to be grounded for the rest of my life but..well worth it....just going to get it in the middle of winter I bet.....weird how it still takes longer for us folks in Canada to get these cars over the US.
A year ago, I traded up from an RT Shaker to a Challenger Scat in the 8 Speed TF, which is quite a bit faster than the Tremec. I actually prefer the narrow body that I went with, which included the Dynamics Package with the 275/40/R20s.
Don't forget to buy a $25 skip shift eliminator or you're not going into 2nd gear from 1st at 14mph to 20mph. Video on RUclips. And run perfectly fine on 87 octane everyday unless you bought it to race. The chally has knock sensors that automatically pull the timing and still hauls ass. $4.25 a gallon beats $5.50 per. Mine gets 21 highway.
Brian great review - I’m looking at a regular body 392 and I’m wondering about the suspension on New England roads - any opinion would be helpful thank you
JJ, our roads in Toronto are probably worse and it's decent. Good amount of suspension travel, good ride height, and there's compliance in the tire, as well. I thinks it would be just fine, particularly when you run the adaptive dampers in their softest setting, which is the way I set my custom drive mode in these things.
Brian Makse thank you. This particular one I’m looking is the scar pack in manual with adaptive dampers. I thought the 275 tires would be more livable than the 305 hence the non wide body
So thought I’d update you all: I went to but they widebody 2020 scat pack - they offered me what I paid retail for on my trade in (2019 Honda Accord Sport 2.0 6spd) while I was there I asked the service center how much the brakes would cost to replace. I have a 2019 RAM 1500 loaded as well and I’ve owned plenty of European cars so I’m used to $1000 for brakes The service guy laughed as he read me the parts list which added up to $3500 - JUST THE PARTS NOLABOR! the front rotors alone are $990 a piece!! Pads up front are $500 ETC ETC that was a deal breaker unfortunately
Got 3.6 0-60 best in track mode no wheel spin flat surface never lose to autos hellcats C8s cars supposed to be out my league 😂 getting a jailbreak to sell in a couple years for double what I paid but my 392 is staying unless I trade it In for a newer manual wb 392 shaker love my car so much fun
No problem getting it to oversteer power-on, but balancing it when you're there is a bit of a trick. The steering is quick enough and has plenty of lock, but it's easier to hold the Hellcat there with all of that power. This one takes more work to play around like that.
Brian Makse - I agree. I purchased the Bullitt last year. It’s a nice driving machine and fun to drive. However its a bit heavy. I may trade for a Porsche Cayman next year. I like a lighter more nimble sports car. The new Nissan Z is also interesting. Have you driven the new Cayman GTS 4.0 ?
What a great drive. Great looking and excellent description of manual action and clutch experience. Is ride any different or softer than Hellcat brother? I want mine in that same color but with that black hood. Great noise, really hope Dodge keeps making them.
The ride is about the same, the suspension’s dialled for the lighter weight of the 6.4. They’re not on the chopping block yet, the last three years have been their biggest for Challenger iirc.
Nice review. The 392 Hemi Challengers are the sweet spot in the lineup. It has enough power to get you in trouble. On the street, it is easier to harness than a Hellcat and costs $20k less. I have to disagree with you on two things. I like the classic lines of the non widebody cars. The widebody looks like they just popped on 4x4 fender flares to me. Also, the rear seat isn't huge, but I can fit behind my drivers seat easily. There isn't much leg room, but there is enough for a 6' adult. The angle of the seat makes it pretty comfortable. I hadn't thought about it, but you are right about the driver's seat height. I wish it was an inch or two lower. Other than that, the car is perfect for me inside. I've really enjoyed my 2019 Challenger 392 T/A. It's like driving an old muscle car except it can handle decent and is really comfortable inside. Oh yeah, I got the Tremec 6-speed!
You said the widebody looks better than the narrow body. That’s your opinion. Many people think the widebody fenders look aftermarket cheap and tacked on. I am one of those. If you’re going to make a statement like that preface it by saying, “in my opinion”.
Love the exterior! But it has a very uninspiring interior. The steering wheel is just plain ugly, not sporty at all. And the dash with absolutely no retro appeal leaves this car unfinished. Dont get me wrong, its a beautiful car. But why not complete it?
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I literally just bought the EXACT SAME Challenger last night. F8 green, and of course it's a manual! 👍🏼
Congrats!
Congratulations🎊 I’m planning on getting one if the economy gets better🏁🏁 my restaurant has took a big shit due to Covid. I had to sell my 2013 viper to pay bills😵😭
The perfect combo.
How do you like your car. Congratulations by the way🙌🙌👊
@@arnie6988 I love it!
I ordered a 50th Anniversary wide body 6 speed last December, got it in April and have put 4,500 miles on it. Coolest car I've owned in my 46 years on the road.
Right on! Congrats!
@@BrianMakse 29 of 70 came here to PA from Nampa, Idaho. F8 Green, and of course 6 speed .Go stick or go home.!!
what color?
@@nealortiz2217 It's PR3 red.
@@nealortiz2217 F8 green.... aka “Fate Green”😀
Best review I've seen so far. Just an FYI: the driver's seat can be lowered by pushing down on the "slider" seat adjuster on the left side of the seat. Instead of using it to move back and forth, push DOWN on the lever and that will LOWER the seat. Also, lifting UP on the FRONT part of the lever allows just the front part of the seat to raise. It's really customizable. I love my 2023 Challenger T/A 392 Widebody manual (of course!). It has the R/T, Scat Pack, Widebody, and T/A packages along with the 392 and the package that has the Deluxe interior and HID headlights. With the T/A package, you also get the Mopar Performance FUNCTIONAL cold air hood that ducts cold air directly to an open airbox with a huge conical air filter. It also contains the much larger air box from the Hellcat and the headlight thar has an open tube that rams air into it. Therefore, the unsilenced Hellcat airbox has 3 sources of cold air: the Mopar Performance hood (functional and unsilenced); the open headlight next to the real headlight that is ducted to the airbox via a tube; and finally, a huge hole in the bottom of the airbox itself. Therefore, the 3 areas of cold, filtered air to the 392 - with the T/A package from the factory. The car is also lowered half an inch and has larger sway bars than the Widebody package includes. I have learned about these extras via YT videos on the car. So, if you buy a Challenger, make sure that you get the Widebody and T/A packages with a manual transmission. Then, you'll be happy too EVERY time that you drive it!
Great car and I always enjoyed filming these episodes. Haven't driven a Dodge in years...
Just got mine on Saturday hellraisen purple with the sunroof and I love it,I suggest getting a ceramic wrap and oil catch can,protect your investment
You should get the 3M paint protection clear film on the front and I had the rear fender flares protected. The factory puts a small piece of paint protection on the rear fender flares it’s about 2” x 4” that’s useless. I spent $160.00 to get both rear fender flares done, so you can’t even tell it’s on there but they’re protected. The rear fender flare are like magnets for stone chips. That was the best money I spent. Nothing worse than having a new car and getting stone chips after couple of thousand miles.It’s cheaper to put this on then to have them repainted and clearcoated and not matching the original paint.
There has always been something special about the manual. I am 55 and learned to drive a manual as a kid. Own a '16 Scat Pack Shaker manual and a Demon. Been giving it some thought about trading the Scat Pack for a Hellcat manual but can't seem to part with the Scat. When I think about trading it in, I just take it for a spin and say "nope, I've got to keep it". Lol. Great video.
Right on, G! Killer garage you've got there. Glad you enjoyed this one.
Great review. Im looking into buying one and have spent hours on youtube watching Challenger reviews. You were the first one who seemed to know a bit more about the car than just the hp and if it sound good! Also the cinematics were spot on.
Thanks. Unlike every other reviewer, I can drive the thing properly, too.
Did you pick one up yet?
@@chrismorris3726 nah mate. There’s literally zero scatpack for sale where I live. Planning a trip to middle Europe to aquire one next summer tho.
@@laurisolja Best of luck. It is worth it!
Just bought an F8 Scatpack WB with manual and sunroof. Absolutely love it ! Wanted a Cuda when I was 16 (back in 1970) and finally got this. Have had lots of great cars, including a 70 Chevelle SS 454 convertible, but this is my favorite. Was set on F8 and manual and could only locate two and was unable to order, as production has ceased. Feel very fortunate to have gotten it. Thanks for the great review. Spot on. Dodge did a great job. So sad to see the muscle car era come to an end.
Congrats!
Wow, your trajectory is very similar to mine! I also had a 1970 LS6 454 4-psd convertible Chevelle, and a 70 AAR Cuda in Plum Crazy Purple. And you know what? I prefer my recently-acquired 2020 R/T Scat M6 Widebody! The only downsides are the lame 6th gear, which drops 700 RPMs instead of the 300-400 that it should, and the lousy placement of the throttle pedal (too close to the tranny well, and 1/2” too low for toe-heel downshifting. Beyond that, what a pleasure to drive! Dodge really hit a home run with this platform.
7:22 a lot of people was complaining about the they can't see in the blind spots so that's the reason why the seat is high. One thing good about Dodge when customers submit their thoughts and opinions Dodge listens same for the new style leather wrap dashboard which people complain about the previous plastic model dashboard
Agreed that they listen. There’s no such thing as a blind spot.
Dude. That’s nonsense. There is a HUGE blind spot about 70 degrees behind your right shoulder. When I come to any turn that’s not a right angle I turn the car to make it 90. PS. 0 - 60 around 4.5 seconds.
@@memonk11 Blind spots are nonsense. No such thing. Adjust your mirrors properly and use your eyes.
@@BrianMakse Wow. You are an idiot.
@@memonk11 learn how to drive, homie.
I bought the '19 Challenger R/T Scat Pack 392 Widebody with 8-speed auto last year in Octane Red Pearl and fully optioned. I daily drive it and I think it's the most amazing car I've owned in my life (I'm pushing 60). It's a lot of fun, gets a lot of looks and compliments, and it's comfortable and roomy and a great cruiser. I'm very impressed with the improvements in the adaptive cruise system over previous years. Tbh, I get tired of idiots making uninformed negative comments about the widebody, the weight, and the platform being old. If they hate it so much then why are they watching? It doesn't really matter to me. I friggen love this car. Fortunately, there's enough people out there supporting Challenger to keep them around and I'm glad because I finally have my chance to enjoy one.
Right on, Bill. I enjoy the car for what it is. There’s no pretence and that’s why I love driving it. As they say, haters gonna hate and they have no place on this channel.
@Ragingbull340 do it!
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Just purchased a non-Widebody 6-speed two days ago. What a thing. Brian said it, what a sound. Great review. Thanks!
Enjoy!
Wow - how hard is it to drive without the Widebody package. I can't imagine driving a manual 392 Chsllenger without the Widebody, just because of traction issues when trying to launch with the narrower tires. Come to think of it, that must be FUN, just trying to get traction and sliding all around!
I've been loving my 2020 scatpack widebody challenger with a manual in GoMango for about one month now. It took 6 weeks to make and it was absolutely worth the wait. Thank you for your video on this spec'd car. I show it to all friends to get a better understanding of why I own one. 🤗
Congrats, Jerry! Enjoy!
The hardest part of ordering one for me is choosing the color. I am partial to Blue to begin with and love both shades but somehow this cars lines in either Go Mango and F8 seem to speak the loudest to me. I would get one spec'd like this, and not get the red Brembos or the Sunroof which I have in another car and never really use it and it generally decreases head room. Congrats Jerry on your purchase. Now Dodge comes out with the 2021 T/A widebody so there's that to consider as well. Decisions decisions.
@@DuneDaddyO Decisions, decisions!! I know what you're going through. However, I just let my 21-year-old son spec out the car for me. I think he did great!! Whatever you choose, you're gonna love it. It'll grow on ya!
I have a 2016 scat pack shaker that I'm going to trade in on a 2021 scat pack shaker widebody for two reasons. One, it's brand new, and two, it's a widebody! I absolutely love these cars but I gotta have that widebody package! And manual is a must! I wouldn't get it without it! SAVE THE MANUALS!
Right on!
I hope that you found one with those options. If not, the Dodge dealer in Newnan, GA USA still has a few Scat Pack manual Widebody Challengers and Chargers left. Not many though. Better acr fast if you want one!!
Picked that up in May of 2021. Been enjoying it ever since! Except winters of course.@@scottandrews4822
I just received mine. The heel toe is interesting in 8t as all the pedals are at different heights from one another. Thats really my only knock on it. Going from a 370Z to this, I honestly don't miss the smaller size as the trunk is so nice and huge. Motor sound is great even in stock form. Great review Brian!
Right on! Enjoy yours! Glad you enjoyed this. Check out our heel toe vid, if you haven’t. Solid tips there.
@@BrianMakse I absolutely will check that out. Love working on Heel Toe. Easily the greatest satisfaction comes from a proper throttle blip
Dayum, love me some Scat Pack w/ manual and in that color!!!
It's not bad.
am i the only person that prefers the narrow body? dont get me wrong, the widebody looks amazing and aggressive and performs better but to me the narrow body just looks more vintage. maybe im crazy i dont know
It’s you and two others.
You’re not alone, but I’ve always been a fan of the old muscle. The wide body makes a big car look too big. No thanks!
You are not alone. I for one can't stand the widebody. Worst job of flaring ever. Looks more like flares you'd see on a truck. =/
Yep you and the two others in the comments. Widebody way more sexy!
Yes, I prefer my narrow body.
Shirt is on its way😍 watched this video at least 100 times searching for my perfect car, octane red shaker widebody manual got here 3 days ago frickn love it, thx for keeping me happy over the last year with the video👍
Congrats on your car! Enjoy!
Did you find the merch store? Here’s a direct link: brianmakse.creator-spring.com/listing/save-the-manuals-november-2018?product=369
I just love everything about that car. That color is definitely the way to go 👍🏽
Hands down the Scat Pack Wide Body is the sweet spot of the Challengers, hence the reason when my local Florida dealer had the F8 Green, Shaker Wide Body, Swinger Edition, I jumped on it, all Last Call Special Editions, came in one design package, the F8 Green came with the 8-speed automatic, & if you wanted to exercise you're arm, the Challenger Sub-Lime Green was available with a 6-speed manual, but having my manual cars years ago, Trans Am's & Formula 350's @ the tender age of 65, I opted for the automatic. But with all said, I had the Hellcat, & other dual turbo brands, I'm happy as a pig in mud with this F8 Green, Challenger Scat Pack, my mod, they made 500 of the F8 Green, all automatics, 200 White Knuckle all automatics, 150 Sub-Lime Green 6-speed, 150 Sub-Lime Green, automatics. Glad I bought what I have, had my choice, luv the F8 Green just hard to keep the millage & speed down, it's a blast to drive & as for the Wide Body, 2nd to none handling!!! My only suggestion is to change your oil over to AMSOIL, it dropped my engine temp down by 15 to 20 degrees 0W/40 Signature AMSOIL, due to the makeup of this oil, far less friction, but I had to go through the break-in period before switching, & MOPAR, just endorsed the use of this brand, & living in Florida heat is in no short supply, lol. My only gripe, with the Shaker Package, is that no real engine venting, to allow heat buildup to escape when done driving, like the other mods, have top vents in the hood, heat rises, so I got into the practice of opening the hood up when home or a secure location to allow heat release.
Brian: I HAD a wide body Charger Scat Pack. LOVED that car in every way..EXCEPT ZF automatic. I will be ordering a new Challenger Scat Pack 6-speed manual to replace it next year. We are agreed that these cars are underappreciated due to the HC product. Scat Pack's are tremendous value and thoroughly sorted platforms as "modern" muscle cars. Well done video sir!
Just bought a 2021 SP Challenger WB, 6.4L. MANUAL trans, wouldn't have it any other way. Love running through those gesrs, makes me feel like a race car driver, ha. The wide body look is the only way I would have a challenger. It looks soooo cool. Pitch Black with a new ceramic coat. The owner's manual says don't go over 55mph for the first100 miles and not over 75 mph for 300 milles.
You are so right that the engine just sounds good all the time!
Indeed.
Would like to have that color green with the TA Challenger wide body don't think I've ever seen one like that with a manual and that color green
Bought the 2016 Scat with auto......in 2016. I regretted it because it's not my daily driver here in a big city. Opted for the manual here in Dec 21......much more fun.
Excellent choice!
Another great video Brian. According to my dealer, my Go Mango Widebody should be here any day now. Ah, the anticipation. Can't wait to get a hold of it.
Sweet! Stoked for you! Glad you enjoyed this one. Looking forward to hearing about your ownership experience.
I can relate. The 3 month wait for my '19 last year was awful.
I saved a manual when u customer ordered the same spec just black. I don’t need a lot of speed to feel the adrenaline. Just sit at a traffic light or shift to second before that skip shift screws you up. Lol I still love it. Fun car to be respected.
Nice. The skip shift can be deactivated, right?
I own a 2020 Dodge Wide Body HellCat Daytona Charger. Number 308 out of 501 built. I have owned many many domestic and Import automobiles. This is by far my most favorite car I have ever owned. It is radically fast and comfortable. I hate my Stereo because it sounds so incredible excellent. When i arrive at my destination I will sit in my car and listen to my music to end before i get out of car. His name is beast and he is the White Knight ruling anywhere he goes. Good Tube
As a long time viper guy, my friends thought I was nuts when I opted for an auto in my wb hellcat. Faster and paddle shift made me do it.
Your friends are correct.
I just bought one of these all black 6sp love it.
Tell me why I’ve got a 700whp mustang in the driveway and I’m drooling over a NA 6.4 Challenger?
Illicit drugs?
Just bought a Challenger R/T with the six speed and you can definitely put humans in the back! I’m 6’3” and I can sit behind myself. I can easily get three kids in the back or two adults comfortably.
I often see a young woman with two kids in a manual widebody Challenger in Orange County, California taking her kids to school.
@@BrianMakse yup, just took my two kids and two of their friends out in mine.
Years ago, I sat in a 392 Scat Pack, before the wide bodies. It was a 6 speed with that gearshift! That knob felt good in my hand. I'm a Mustang fan, but I like the shift knob in manual Challengers better than manual Mustangs. Also I understand the Tremec is better than the Chinese made Getrag.
The shifter is still the same. I never liked the Mustang manual gearboxes until the GT350, but the GT500 kinda negates that idea altogether with that wicked dual clutch.
I put a Hurst Pistol Grip shifter in my 2023 Dodge Challenger 392 T/A Widebody and it made a HUGE difference in how the shifting feels. Best change I ever made! Hurst has the Pistol Grip shifter available for the Tremec transmission. YES, the Tremec is MUCH better than the Gertrag; that's why it's in the Shelby GT350 and all V8 DODGE lines.
Good video! Professor! I don't like those fender flares, it look like an after though! I bought a 2022 Scat and can't keep my rear end out of it! Trac mode drinks gas, sport mode does a little better on gas, auto mode gets almost the same mileage as my 2020 5.7 Challenger. But I didn't buy it for gas mileage! If you can't afford to feed it, don't buy it!
The only Challenger to buy!
If reverse gear is so close to 5th gear is it possible anytime that we would shift wrong to reverse gear instead of 5th gear?
No.
@@BrianMakse Is it because reverse gear will get blocked or something? Becuase i was thinking to get dodge challenger manual from WRX Subaru. The subaru reverse which has to pull up the shift which is more safe i found. But for dodge is it would be the same since the shift is close
I have this in black but no leather or any of that plus package stuff. Best bang for the buck!!
Yep!
I really like your improved format. I DO agree that they are the sweet spot but the pricing in CDN is too close to a hellcat. Which Color do you like best? Or renders the lines of the widebody the best you think? Lol at your last statement...👍
Thanks, Mike! Personally I prefer black. I like the sinister vibe.
just found your channel ty love the manual ty an of course im subscribing
Thanks, Mike! Lots of good stuff here.
@@BrianMakse Why leave it on
Which do you like more this or the Bullitt?
Bullitt.
@@BrianMakse - Me too!
This is the exact challenger I wanted, but I went with the GT350 instead
@@alwayslearning1965 - Good choice. Which model year and what color combo?
2019 metallic grey with track package. I got it for 1,7500 under invoice, so I couldn't pass it up. However I love the Challenger and may have gotten it but couldn't find that color combo in a wide body and scat pac
Hi Brian enjoyed the program,,,a couple questions though,,,what ad ons increased the price of the scatpack to $69385 ? i assume the widebody
version is included in that price as well as taxes?. not includeing delivery and gas guzzler tax
This one has the goofy stripes, sound system, summer tires, interior trim, and a couple of other things to get it to that price. Yes, that’s including the WB.
I’ve been looking for this exact trim with the manual and I can’t find it near where I live. All I can find is a Widebody scatpack with Automatic or a base Scatpack with a manual.
Why not order one?
@@BrianMakse that’s what I’m thinking of doing. I was trying to take advantage of rebates!
Another good review. Thanks Brian
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Great video. Can you make one on the Camaro ZL1
It’s already there for you.
Well that answers my question. The functional hood scoop on the other models, namely the T/A package is not necessary to produce 485 hp. Mostly for cosmetics
Intakes, hood scoops, even exhaust changes do nothing to increase power or torque by themselves. Bolt ons are of limited use today, as everything is controlled by the ECU.
My dad has a 2016 Automatic Skatpack widebody. Cherry red, with a brand new super charger he just put in it. Its one hell of a car. Can blow the doors off of any hellcat.
Why wouldn’t he just get a Hellcat that has a transmission and driveline rated for 700hp?
@@BrianMakse Because the car is 70K, and the scatpack is only around 45-50K. Also, when he did all that, it only cost him around 8K at the most to get hardend pistons, etc. And when he added the super charger, he took it to the drag strip, an managed to beat a Hellcat, so I think hes happier with his car. But then again, no hate towards the hellcat, the hellcat is a really nice car.
Nice my friend just bought a used challenger scat pack manual 2017 for 27,899 out the door was 31 thousand and some change but brand new there expensive and it's nothing like manual its just so much fun to drive I'm thinking about buying one myself I need a V8 back in my life lol
It ahould be law that everyone has a hellcat
People don’t respect it, but I love it.
Same here.
So Monday, June 3rd 2024, is the last day (so Im told) that Stallantis is offering deals incentives. It seems after Monday, the dealers own what they have and they become used cars. The last 2 weeks Ive been shopping with several options available, but not much movement from the already "discounted" prices. Fast forward to yesterday, and they are dwindling fast, with dealers not too happy to sell you the car with your own financing. I found one (not taken delivery yet) for 51k in Octane Red. Stay tuned.
I’m slightly befuddled about a manual versus automatic transmission. I think I’m going to go for the automatic which I would not have considered 40 years ago.
I have a 2020 scat 392 with 6k miles I just picked up.
Took it out last night for pretty much the first drive.
I'm hearing a clunk when engaging/disengaging the clutch from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd a little sometimes going to 4th. Sounds like its somewhere in the back/rear. Almost like something's loose in the trunk (it's empty)
Then on the highway in 6th doing anything over 60 mph, when I let off the throttle or just barely on it to maintain speed I'm getting a strong vibration and noise in the shifter.
Is all that normal? Is the clunking me, my timing, coming out of the throttle to quickly when shiting?
Should it vibrate like that on the highway?
Get your car fixed, yo.
Everybody who knows cars envies those with one of these. 2021 Triple Nickle Scat Pack WB Shaker 6 spd. 21 mpg.
What makes the Summer tires better than the All season?
They’re round.
they stick better and hence better handling
you know, brian, this car has always been one of my very fav cars. the only reason i have never had any in my driver is...the one flavor it never offered?, a rag top.
driveway...not driver
Somebody does them down south somewhere I think, but I’m sure it’s not quite OEM. I’d still give one a try. Perfect mobile cigar lounge.
Brian, welcome to 🇨🇦...awesome vid ~ every time I watch one that you do, I wanna buy that car & forget all about the others.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙏🏽
Ha ha! Thanks, Andy!
This was a great video man ! Way to hit all the points someone looking to purchase this car would want to know
Thanks! Hope you stick around!
Love the shaker hood
you can make the scat pack challenger AWD????!?!?!? 0:53
also I was able to sit two full grown men in the back seat with no sweat. Getting them in and out is a different story, but there is PLENTY of space in the back seat.
No AWD Scat Pack from the factory. Yes, the back seat is spacious...if you can get in there!
Need your expert opinion brian ,,the starting price according to the Dodge Build your price website has the challenger widebody listed at $54,995 with the plus package listed at $1595 and convenience package listed at $1095 sunroof $1495 SRT SPOILER $875 totaling $ 69,359 includeing taxes and destination fee ,not sure what the gas guzzler fee is.not includeing any incentives ,,,Do you think hypothetically,, this vehicle is doable out the door at $70,000 give or take? ,,,, thanks
Have you looked at how they’re discounting this summer? I think it’s likely.
My Grandmother is going to kill me when she finds out I ordered a 2021 Scat Pack....told her it was a ... "V6 with a manual".....I'm going to be grounded for the rest of my life but..well worth it....just going to get it in the middle of winter I bet.....weird how it still takes longer for us folks in Canada to get these cars over the US.
If it has active exhaust just put it in quiet mode. And give grandma the valet key fob! 😄😄
@@MisterMikeTexas she doesn’t drive so....will think to think of something...”quite fob, loud fob”
Awesome review
Thanks!
I want the frost blue one 💙
Not a bad colour!
The best car america has produced in decades
Where can we see this car in France ? Is it easy to ship over here from canada ?
Thx
Shipping is easy. The cost might quite a bit. Haven't seen these in France, but I have in Germany.
I'll ship you mine
What four post lift are you using
Brian?
Thanks
No idea. The good folks at RCLUB installed them.
A year ago, I traded up from an RT Shaker to a Challenger Scat in the 8 Speed TF, which is quite a bit faster than the Tremec. I actually prefer the narrow body that I went with, which included the Dynamics Package with the 275/40/R20s.
Why is this guy pretending that 485hp isn't impressive? The 392 is my favorite engine of the lineup!
I guess this guy has driven the Demon or something.
Don't forget to buy a $25 skip shift eliminator or you're not going into 2nd gear from 1st at 14mph to 20mph. Video on RUclips. And run perfectly fine on 87 octane everyday unless you bought it to race. The chally has knock sensors that automatically pull the timing and still hauls ass. $4.25 a gallon beats $5.50 per. Mine gets 21 highway.
392 runs fine on 87? I have a 2021 charger rt but gonna trade it in for a widebody scat or hellcat
Brian great review - I’m looking at a regular body 392 and I’m wondering about the suspension on New England roads - any opinion would be helpful thank you
JJ, our roads in Toronto are probably worse and it's decent. Good amount of suspension travel, good ride height, and there's compliance in the tire, as well. I thinks it would be just fine, particularly when you run the adaptive dampers in their softest setting, which is the way I set my custom drive mode in these things.
Brian Makse thank you. This particular one I’m looking is the scar pack in manual with adaptive dampers. I thought the 275 tires would be more livable than the 305 hence the non wide body
@@jjames2162 I think the WB looks better and it definitely handles better. WB is my choice for sure.
Wide body bro ~ you only live once...👍🏼
So thought I’d update you all: I went to but they widebody 2020 scat pack - they offered me what I paid retail for on my trade in (2019 Honda Accord Sport 2.0 6spd) while I was there I asked the service center how much the brakes would cost to replace.
I have a 2019 RAM 1500 loaded as well and I’ve owned plenty of European cars so I’m used to $1000 for brakes
The service guy laughed as he read me the parts list which added up to $3500 - JUST THE PARTS NOLABOR!
the front rotors alone are $990 a piece!! Pads up front are $500 ETC ETC
that was a deal breaker unfortunately
0-60 in this car is low 4 seconds. 0-60 in the R/T with the 5.7L is low 5 seconds and 0-60 in the hellcat is mid 3 seconds.
Got 3.6 0-60 best in track mode no wheel spin flat surface never lose to autos hellcats C8s cars supposed to be out my league 😂 getting a jailbreak to sell in a couple years for double what I paid but my 392 is staying unless I trade it In for a newer manual wb 392 shaker love my car so much fun
@@johnwilliams2378 maybe down hill with a hell of a breeze.
Does it kick out easily when driving around corners? I usually drive euros and they are fairly precise and neutral.
No problem getting it to oversteer power-on, but balancing it when you're there is a bit of a trick. The steering is quick enough and has plenty of lock, but it's easier to hold the Hellcat there with all of that power. This one takes more work to play around like that.
@@BrianMakse I don't want it to kick out tho. So probably an upgraded Fsb?
@@Joe-eg7ml Ah, gotcha. I'm all about sliding these things. What's FSB?
@@BrianMakse front sway bar.
The Scat Pack WC gets unique suspension bits, but the front bar has little to do with controlling oversteer, relatively speaking.
Great vid! Even thou I'd never buy, I got new respect for it...
Thanks, Vito!
TEST DRIVE THE 2020 1LE SS 6-SPEED (NOT ZL1)!!!🗣
That's really old news now. I did 2.0T and ZL1 1LE already.
Yeah your crazy widebody looks 1000 times better.
When will this black wheel black theme trend ends ?
Seems like customers are buying it, so I’d say give it another five years.
I never cared for it I'm a satin silver fan.. nothing like a clean look.
Manual yessss😎
Which do you like more, the Bullitt or this Scat Pack Challenger or the GT350?
Tough one. My Challenger of choice is Redeye. At Scat Pack pricing it’d be a tough decision between this and a debadged Bullitt.
Brian Makse - I agree. I purchased the Bullitt last year. It’s a nice driving machine and fun to drive. However its a bit heavy. I may trade for a Porsche Cayman next year. I like a lighter more nimble sports car. The new Nissan Z is also interesting. Have you driven the new Cayman GTS 4.0 ?
I just bought a Frostbite Blue WB auto. Great car. 600 miles so far
Congrats! Get out and drive!
nice color
stang guy but i want one if these too … in sinnamon stick of course
A lot of shaking on the shifter @ 8:00
It’s a Dodge.
What a great drive. Great looking and excellent description of manual action and clutch experience. Is ride any different or softer than Hellcat brother? I want mine in that same color but with that black hood. Great noise, really hope Dodge keeps making them.
The ride is about the same, the suspension’s dialled for the lighter weight of the 6.4. They’re not on the chopping block yet, the last three years have been their biggest for Challenger iirc.
Those tires are crazy expensive on the widebody
Try buying racing tires…
I would have never bought my Challenger widebody if it was an automatic.
Cute Challenger i like color ❤
Next step crew Dodge in Formula 1
A car does not have to be the quickest to be a favorite or even a good car.
True for all fun cars!
Wait, did he just say that you can get a rwd challenger with awd? With a manual?
Pretty sure I didn’t say that.
Why does every f8 green challenger I’ve seenhave black wheels. I bought an f8 green rt 5.7 with the silver wheels, I think it looks better
You can order what you like.
@@BrianMakse I must have the only one then lol
Nice review. The 392 Hemi Challengers are the sweet spot in the lineup. It has enough power to get you in trouble. On the street, it is easier to harness than a Hellcat and costs $20k less. I have to disagree with you on two things. I like the classic lines of the non widebody cars. The widebody looks like they just popped on 4x4 fender flares to me. Also, the rear seat isn't huge, but I can fit behind my drivers seat easily. There isn't much leg room, but there is enough for a 6' adult. The angle of the seat makes it pretty comfortable. I hadn't thought about it, but you are right about the driver's seat height. I wish it was an inch or two lower. Other than that, the car is perfect for me inside. I've really enjoyed my 2019 Challenger 392 T/A. It's like driving an old muscle car except it can handle decent and is really comfortable inside. Oh yeah, I got the Tremec 6-speed!
Nice ride!
Great video but I think the non wide body captures the essence of the cars roots and looks better
Well, they all still need splitter guards.
I love this car. Would you recommend this or a base model Corvette C8?
Dunno, Patrick. Still haven’t driven the C8. (Let’s thank GM for that.) Are you still in the OC?
@@BrianMakse LA now. :)
Let me know if you have time for coffee.
@@BrianMakse Pinged you on LinkedIn. :)
Copy that.
That’s a nice car! 🤝
A scat pack doesn’t do 0-60 in the 5 second range lol. It’s been rated at 3.9
You said the widebody looks better than the narrow body. That’s your opinion. Many people think the widebody fenders look aftermarket cheap and tacked on. I am one of those. If you’re going to make a statement like that preface it by saying, “in my opinion”.
Nah, that’s fact.
@@BrianMakse nah that’s opinion
@@scottieodle7606 facts
hey buddy your steering wheel is positioned far too close in front of you.
Here we go again...who taught you how to drive?
good ole canadian muscle
Anyone reading this you’ll get yours soon! 🙏🏻
0-60 in the low 4s.
Im i a 3 pedals men ... need a shirt like u have
Right on! We sell them in our merch store! Link in the description!
I can lower my seat all the way to the floor and can barely see over the steering wheel. You must be all torso bud lol.
Who needs to see? I can’t see anything out of my race car.
Take the ridiculous shipping protector off the chin spoiler!
That's painter's tape.
@@BrianMakse oh.gotca looks like the factory shipping protection only less effective.Its the owners own personal choice though
Nah, they’re lame. That’s why I used to make a joke about it with the tape.
If you’re bored, Google me + splitter guards.
Love the exterior! But it has a very uninspiring interior. The steering wheel is just plain ugly, not sporty at all. And the dash with absolutely no retro appeal leaves this car unfinished. Dont get me wrong, its a beautiful car. But why not complete it?