The 2023 Integra Is Fantastic... If You Set Your Expectations Right...
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- IMHO, most of the negative reviews I've seen on the Integra are based on a faulty premise: that Acura intended to create a head-on competitor to the Audi RS3 or CLA 45. In reality the Integra is what it has always been: a value play for customers wanting something a little nicer that's fun to drive. Aka, the "Luxury Honda". With a low MSRP, tons of standard equipment and liely low maintenance and repair costs, the Integra is as true to the name as ever. But that means that it's not competitive with mid-level trims of the Germans because its mission is different. Don't like it? Don't buy it. LOL
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00:00 - Introduction
00:47 - Design
1:29 - How big is it?
2:32 - Why the Integra isn't an Audi killer
3:53 - Drivetrain: The Acura with the heart of an Si
5:47 - Seat comfort
7:36 - Cargo capacity
8:30 - Interior design
12:11 - How does it drive?
18:21 - Final scores
20:27 - How much does it cost? 
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a lift back is greatness. it allows you to avoid having to buy a small crossover.
Cross overs have awd intega small car
@@jayczyzyk9707 Not all of us live in climates where AWD is much of an asset. And many small crossovers don't come with it standard (and a couple don't offer it at all).
@@jayczyzyk9707 my comment was really just a shot at stinking crossovers. I'm sick of them. anything but a crossover. 😄
@@gbgary you say that now, but one day you'll cross over
But the back seat is way smaller than a crossover
I've said it before (and I'll say it again for RUclips viewer engagement numbers): I don't care about the Integra, but your videos are so meticulous, thorough, and organized that I am compelled to watch them anyway. I truly don't believe there is any media that I consume that is better put together than the reviews on this channel. Thank you!
That price spread graph in the beginning is really helpful. 👍
I really like the new Acura Integra. One of my favorite fun facts is that its 1.5L engine is a 2022 Wards 10 Best Engines and Propulsion Systems winner!
I really like the exterior styling. I wish Acura would offer more dynamic color choices.
Looks exactly like a Honda Insight 🤣
I think more colors will come in upcoming model years even when the Integra Type S arrives.
As an Integra owner, I think your review was spot on (see how I avoided the obvious "Accur-ite" pun there!). I appreciate your detailed comparison to the competition. So many other reviews focus on whether or not this is worth the money over the Si, which is not very compelling (and a moot argument given that Si's are scarce and subjected to mark-ups by some dealers). I moved from a 2019 Accord with a 6-spd manual which was a great car but harder to park, lacked a sunroof, liftback design and heated seats, and didn't have the fun factor of a few more ponies and an LSD. I love most everything about the Integra, except Android Auto is completely unreliable via wireless and often unreliable even when wired, the rear defroster takes forever to work, the rear window needs a wiper, and the placement of the back-up camera makes it prone to getting covered in water and is essentially useless in the rain. But those are minor concerns, IMO. Thanks again for a great review - Dave
I also have the New Integra, Well said!👏🏼👏🏼 Dnt forget they also should have added auto side folding mirrors, ambient lighting options, and a front camera:(
Maintenance costs and reliability are huge factors for me when choosing a car which is why I only buy Honda or Toyota (or Acura and Lexus) products. I went with the Integra with the manual and love it. It looks better in real life. The stock tires are trash and I'll be going with some QuietTraks when it comes time for new sneakers for the car. Otherwise, the engine has more than enough power. My only complaint is second gear being so darn short.
Agreed on second gear :P I feel like I either have to rev to 5K rpm or switch gears twice in 3 seconds when I'm driving sometimes. Otherwise, I effing love this car
Acura is not in top 5 in terms of reliability. 😂 You’ve been fooled!
Could not agree more about the tires…First thing I did was change them out with some Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 + (great wet and dry performance, tread life, Y speed rating, etc. Very happy with theses tires!). The car is a great value for its market and all around great daily driver:)
do you live in an area with lots of traffic? I am considering this car...but Atlanta traffic may push me to the CVT.
Alex, This new Integra may be a qualified success but your enthusiastic yet coherent review is a smash hit👏👏👏👏
I agree, I was very impressed with the way Alex reviewed this car.
@@braetonwilson4296 👍
Why would you not compare it against a Mazda3 Turbo?
I feel sad for that car. Reviewers don't compare it against GTI, WRX, Elantra N, etc. saying that it's not as hardcore and it's more of an entry level luxury car competitor. Now when it comes to reviews of cars like Integra, it's again not mentioned at all (which is beyond my understanding). It's a closer match to this car than all the other German competitors you mentioned.
Agree 100%…in fact, I’m picking up my Mazda 3 turbo tomorrow after having rented both the Mazda and an Integra A-Spec on Turo for a day to get a really good feel for each. I thought the Mazda 3 would struggle against the Integra, but it has so much more power and the interior is much nicer and quieter. No, the Mazda isn’t perfect. It has a smoother ride over smaller bumps but I think a bit harsher over the bigger stuff, possibly due to the twist beam rear suspension, but the engine felt much smoother & the 3 has much less road noise. I think handles about as well as the Integra does too. What really killed the Integra for me was the inferior interior materials, the road noise (I disagree with Alex's D rating though, I’d give it a C+ to the 3's A-), and most especially, the CVT, which dulls off the line performance and creates some engine drone, even with the stepped CVT 'shifts'. If only Acura hadn’t cheapened out on the sound deadening and materials and had used the ILX’s 8-speed DCT, it would have had a chance.
I agree that the Mazda is one of the few natural competitors and has some advantages. It also has a few weaknesses. Its safety tech is subpar, and its infotainment system is very poor. In general the Acura has more gadgets than the Mazda. The other big disadvantage is gas mileage, where the Acura's advantage is huge.
@@markmiller3279 Ofcourse each car has its pros and cons. The point here is to atleast do a fair comparison.
As for the safety tech and the infotainment in Mazda is concerned, I personally love it. It's super intuitive while driving, once you get used to it. There is a learning curve there.
I’ve been saying this for a while too. Personally, I think the Integra is hideous from the C pillar and back and the Mazda 3 in hatch form is a stunner. More power and AWD. It’s an easy choice.
@@DJPleasureSeekingMissle 3 turbo doesnt have the correct transmission and also the infotainment is off putting to some (like me)
I picked up my Integra around the end of June, so I’m one of the few lucky drivers to get my hands on one early. Honestly it’s been great so far. I don’t have any sentimental attachment to the Integra of old and I got over my prejudice from the November reveal. As a daily driver, the new Integra is fantastic; practical, a solid 6MT, and 200 HP is enough for everyday driving. My only gripes are that the suede seats aren’t as comfortable as I’d like, the rear headroom is subpar, and there aren’t any rear air vents. My car also came with a defective rear passenger seatbelt and it’s hasn’t been easy to replace.
I’m also starting to notice that my local Acura dealership is having a hard time selling Integras. All the enthusiasts already picked up their 6MT Integras. Now the only Integras flying off the lots are the CVT ones, but Acura can’t build enough CVTs to match demand. The 6MT Integras are currently rusting on the lots.
Might have something to do with the 6MT also costing a lot.
@@afcgeo882 It’s not just that. Even the top trim CVTs are selling more frequently than the 6MT.
A changing of the times. People aren’t interested in a manual for a non-performance car. I needed engagement in my daily commute so I’m okay with this.
@@deltahorizon26 The automatic transmissions will ALWAYS sell better than manuals. This just isn’t the type of a car a WRX is. You’ll likely see a different story in the Type-S. The Integra isn’t a performance car. It’s a luxury compact.
Manuals in non-performance cars were only attractive while they offered better fuel economy. Most people would much rather get an automatic if it will give them the same or better fuel economy. They’re easier to drive and are more comfortable.
Now… if you had a base Integra 6-speed sell for $29,900, you’d see those fly off the lot.
@@afcgeo882 Not going to argue with that. Nobody here in SoCal wants to drive a manual in soul crushing traffic.
Technically, the Civic Si would be the base model Integra. But Honda is reportedly having production issues with the Civic Si right now. I’m also guessing the Integra having higher profit margins is the reason why Honda isn’t allocating more resources to making more Civic Si models.
@@deltahorizon26 I would agree on the Si, but I need a hatch and that LSD is clutch in NYC winter driving. I’ve driven manuals in NYC for years, but at 45 no longer miss it. I’m actually looking forward to the Civic hybrid, hoping it gets the same exact engine that’s in the CRV.
As always, I appreciate your detailed review. We got an A-Spec CVT and love it. Yes, we wanted the CVT for it’s better MPG and didn’t want to row the gears since it is a daily driver in stop and go traffic. We compared it tot he Audi A3 we had a couple of years ago and the GTI (MK8) we got rid of a few months after we bought it. The Audi was too softly sprung (Quattro without the sport suspension) and wasn’t really any nicer than the Integra. The GTI (Autobahn Edition) was quieter and quicker but it didn’t have as much interior room as the Integra and didn’t ride any better. The Integra is the better handler (IMHO). The GTI lost something in the handling department with its redesign. It just did not inspire confidence in the corners the way the Integra does. When comparing equipment levels inside, the Integra matches everything the other two had but kills them both in the audio quality. The Audi was good, the GTI was horrible and the Integra’s stereo is one of the best I have ever had!
Cabin noise is a massive dealbreaker. Absolute non starter. Thanks for the honest reporting!
We have the Integra and the noise isn’t that bad. The thing that leads to louder noise is the tires, especially on rougher pavement. When riding on smoother roads, the noise level is not that high. I would not rule the vehicle out unless you test drive one and make up you own mind,
Once again Alex pointing out what others are missing; the value! It's the same formula as the old Integra.
Also I too like the red interior it's not just you Alex, & well played having the song paused being Civic. 😅😂🤣
Exactly. It's the nostalgic nannies who keep crying for an unrealistic expectation of a coupe in the U.S. and Canada when the coupe died for Acura in 2006 after the RSX and the coupe died for Honda in 2020 after the 10th gen Civic Si coupe died.
Versatility and practicality of sedans, hatchbacks, and sportbacks/liftbacks is what makes them (Honda and Acura) money.
The 1st gen Integra wasn't just a 3-door liftback coupe. It was also a 5-door sedan-esque liftback. I don't get why the self-proclaimed Integra diehards who are just complaining crybabies are so in denial of the new Integra following the old Integra's formula.
All they're going to say is it used the JDM engines from Honda in Japan and it was designed differently. That's all they can say.
When you consider the price to performance ratio, it's too expensive for what it is, but I'm glad a Type S variant is coming soon.
Well the ux is slower and more expensive. At least the integra is better in that regard
Integra Type S all the way.
As long as Acura makes it a manual transmission for the Integra Type S, I'm sold.
@@naveenthemachine the UX is a luxury car. This is not.
@@andybub45 no. The ux isn’t a luxury car. A corolla with lipstick and a noisy corolla drive train that’s anemic and slow and being very expensive is not luxury at all
Type S with the bigger engine is here! And costs $53k at least. Hard to swallow at that price. But I suppose everything is expensive these days.
Thanks for the review Alex! I took delivery of my 6MT Integra on 6/4, and have been driving for 2500 miles. While I truly like the car, there are a number of compromises. You pointed them out really well. My biggest complaint would be overall quality. I find it a bit tinny compared to the European cars I've owned for 20 years. Fit and finish is so-so, but not surprising for the first ones produced.
I'm sure it'll get better over the course of production. Like you said, it's just early model ones or 1st model year Integras, but as long as it's treating you well, that's most important.
Hopefully the Integra Type S will be even better come next year.
If you want something a bit more special than a Civic and don't wan't the roughness of the Si - you get an Integra. How hard is that to grasp?
I feel for the enthusiasts stuck in the past, this is truly an outstanding vehicle - purposeful, compliant and doesn't break the bank like the other competitors.
That's exactly what it is especially most of the U.S. Americans in this country who are in denial of the Integras history banks because they think the Integra was just a 3-door coupe only. The Integra was also a 5-door liftback in its 1st generation and a 4-door sedan and another 5-door liftback in its 2nd and 3rd generations.
I just bought one of these one week ago. I test drove an SI but went with Acura because I’m middle aged. I didn’t consider the competition because I wanted a manual gearbox.
Once it gets the hybrid drivetrain from the Civic hybrid in Europe, it’ll be a very good value.
Great review as always! I think Acura could have done more and charged just a tick more. There should definitely be another engine option, and a regular automatic not a CVT.
Both (especially the transmission) would have added development costs and likely not translated into very many sales. If they ever make a performance Integra they'll give you what you want, but it won't be any time soon.
the Integra Type S has 320 horsepower from a 2 liter turbo from the Civic Type R
I would do unspeakable things for a TLX Type S with this manual.
Can understand how you feel. Like the way you described. 👍🏼👍🏼😎🤟🏼
Or just having that powerplant crammed into this thing :P
I really appreciate these videos and very much enjoy your channel. I got an Acura Integra A-spec and I am more than pleased even with the CVT. I even prefer it over the latest generation Mazda 3 I had for 3 years. I found that transmission to be jerky especially at low speeds. The CVT in the Acura is smooth as butter. I wanted an A-spec with tech package but couldn't find one but I am still more than pleased with my purchase. Especially to find one at retail price in these times. I wanted a Civic Sport touring but couldn't find one but ended up with a better car.
How would you compare the road noise levels between the latest gen Mazda and Acura?
I really love a red interior, but I really love Alex on Autos more. ❤
Well said Mr Alex. Awesome review.
What great review 👏 👌 definitely subscribing
I bought one just before New Year's - manual, of course. I agree 100% with your assessment. I think you should have mentioned the Tech Package since those options you mentioned only come with that. Also, it needs to be added that the Acura should hold its resale value better than the comps. Of course, now it is 2024 and we know the Acura Type S with a 2.0 litre engine is available but I could not justify the markups and 60K+ out the door price when VW GTIs can be had for less money. I also don't like the over-the-top looks of the tripe exhaust in the middle of 2024 Type S.
Good job Alex 👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️
I love it. I guess I need to go test drive one. Small cars like this typically have lots of interior road noise and are a rough ride (although adaptive dampers may help).
I love the red seats!!!
Honestly, as a dad I love this thing. I use the hatch on my Prius way too often to give up the ability to pick up free craigslist cabinets on a moments notice. The Si isn't a hatch, the Civic hatch with my preferred 2.0 is very barebones, and the touring hatch costs more than the Si. I look forward to buying one of these in 10 years used for my work commute car 😂 My luck it will still be $35k and new ones will be $60k.
Just buy it now, dealers are not marking up the A-Spec w/ Tech with manual. I bought it at 2K below MSRP.
High road noise = deal breaker.
I was unhappy to hear that. It's such a simple thing to fix.
I’m an owner and I don’t think it is that bad. I'm coming from a GTI. Honestly, after the factory tires are worn out, it will be easy to quiet it down more with a better tire choice. Civics have always been bad but the Integra has visible acoustic insulation in the engine compartment and active noise cancellation in the cabin with the Tech package.
For some people, it could be.
I think he changed the settings during his review to make it loud on the inside.
If he didn't, I don't think that would be a deal killer for me. I can live with that. It's better than hearing creaks and rattles from a 5-year old car. I'll take the high road noise of the Integra over my 5-year-old Chevy SS Sedan with its creaks and rattles.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536 Yeah I think where Alex mischaracterizes it is saying “high road noise.” That just isn’t the case. I think a more accurate statement would be “noisier than the Audi A3 and others in its class.”
@@DerekHoiem Agree with you there.
You had me at liftback!
Well said. I still want one. Base in red or white/graystone, killer commuter/client visitor.
I’d get the Si, put on some summer tires and a tune kit with the money saved.
What camera was this filmed with? There is a surprising amount of visual noise, especially visible in the red parts of the interior.
I'd get the fully loaded Integra vs base Audi A3.
I made the same decision 7 years ago when I went with the more engaging and fully loaded 2.0T Hyundai Sonata and not the bare-bones and more expensive VW Passat.
Never regretted that decision!
Compared to a Civic Sport Touring this looks like a really nice upgrade. BUT! How could they forget to even offer Homelink on the rear-view mirror? I love that it comes with the Si powertrain and a manual.
Also, 0-60 doesn't matter too much, it's not a drag racer. They geared it so there's a 3rd shift before 60 which kills the time score.
Also also, I find it amazing that a premium car with supposedly more sound deadening material would score worse on the decibel meter than the standard vehicle on which it's based. You noted the Civic Sport Touring hatch scored 73 decibels but this gets 74? Totally bizarre.
Everyone crying about how this car is a gussied up Civic, that’s always been what the Integra is all about. Plus it’s Civic roots means it doesn’t get Acuras garb TrueTouch touchpad infotainment.
I’m okay with the integra being a civic because the civic is a class leader
There are worse luxury vehicles based off uncompetitive mainstream models
That's exactly all I say too. When were older generation Integras and RSXs not gussied up Civics as well. It's just the nostalgic nannies crying that they're not getting a coupe anymore.
They brag about being Integra diehards, but surely don't know that the 1st gen Integra started out as a 5-door liftback alongside the 3-door coupe and 2nd gen and 3rd gen Integras offered a 4-door sedan alongside the 5-door liftback and 3-door coupe.
The nincompoop nostalgic nannies set their bar too high and their unrealistic expectations failed them. They got too caught up in the DC2 coupe and DC5 coupe-only body style and thought that's what Acura was going to bring for the bare minimum 5% of buyers when Acura's trying to get themselves out of the red from the poor sales of the NSX.
Plenty of manual Integras in stock around here, but no 11th gen Civic sitting on a lot since they came out.
Alex, how would you compare it to a similarly priced WRX?
I got the blue and it is beautiful. I’m still getting to know it but it performs very well and has mileage is very good. Only thing so far is this baby is noisy on highway. But it’s not new to to be a Cadillac.
I like the car. As is. I ended up with the base with tech. They called it a Civic sport touring though. Not quite as nice but good enough.
There is going to be an Integra Type S. It is on Acuras performance road map and there are already pics of a covered but obvious Integra with Type S features.
The grill looks like Superman's emblem lol
you can buy a manual A-Spec Acura Integra for $35,000 ($2500 under msrp) right now. they are not selling well at all right now.
It’s still true. I just bought one for $3k under MSRP. Didn’t even have to haggle…that was the dealer’s initial offer! And also got 3.9% x 60 months, 3 years maintenance for free, and a great dealer experience.
@@anthonys6657notably, 3.9% is less than a high yield savings account. 4% or less on financing is basically “free” financing.
What would you get, outgoing ILX or Integra?
Ok, let's get the positives out of the way. The exterior looks are fine and the interior is well sorted. The touch screen tablet is much more convenient then what we see in the other Acura models. Adaptive suspension is great and having the manual option is nice. It is based on the new civic, which is a great vehicle. Now the negatives. As a past csx owner and a current ilx owner, I am not fond of the cvt option. Having driven the new integra, it does not have the same fun factor as the DCT in the Ilx. Now people will say the gas mileage is better with the cvt and offers a smoother experience. I agree, but again, not as fun. The ilx has a 2.4l naturally aspirated engine that offers 201 hp and 180 ft lbs of torque. V tec kicks in around 4500 rpm, which offers a fun experience. Due to the quick shifts and linear power band that red lines at 6900rpms, 0 to 60 is accomplished in 6.6 seconds. While Alex is saying 6.8 for the Integra, 7.4 has been the norm. Additionally, only offering the manual on the top trim is frustrating.
Thanks for the great review. The Integra was one of my top choices (looking to get a new car by Spring), but cabin noise is big for me, was this the same in the new Civic hatchback?I'll have to look (*edit - new Civic is 73dB, vs 74dB for Integra) . BTW, red is my fav color, but I absolutely hate red interiors, I find them gaudy. 🤷♀
Don't go get a Lexus thing, because they have that too. LOL!
The Integra has an orchid interior. It's not completely white, but it has the same touches as the red interior in the exact same places. I don't know how you would feel about that.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536 Between me, the kids and the dog, we cannot have a light interior.😂
@@bonokat LOL! I feel you. Those are quick ways to get it dirty. 🤣🤣🤣
Alex, how would you compare this car to the VW GLI?
Red interiors are awesome:)
Honda/Acura makes decisions and changes at the speed of a glacier, and they think with the balance sheet in mind, not the driving experience. Case in point. The 2007 MDX had a manual tilt rear-rear view mirror to abate hi-beams hitting your eyes instead of an automatic one. The reason? It made economic sense, kept costs down, and people didn't really mind having to use elbow grease. They didn't include a power liftgate until 2009! That's why the public is always disappointed with their new arrivals initially. This could also be why they are a rock-solid company. Definitely more evolutionary than revolutionary.
I'm thinking of getting one, but so expensive, is it really worth trading in my 2020 2.0T Accord?
Acura is almost like another trim for Honda models, except tighter interior and slightly more premium than the Honda model that’s de-contented compared to others in the class to overcharge for on the Acura model
How much would your handling and ride ratings change if you were to rate the CVT? I know it's been a while since you drove that version but it would be interesting to hear how they compare. I'm planning on picking up the CVT version soon since a manual isn't an option for me unfortunately. Also, I wonder how this would compare to the Mazda 3. Even though you gave it a D for cabin noise, would you say it's better than the civic/similar cars?
Mazdas are LOUD; they look slick and premium on the outside but really are just suited up budget car. The 3 is probably as loud as the Integra on highway
@@Peizxcv Not the new 3...it's easily the quietest car in it's class and controls road noise very well. Take it for a test drive and you'll see
@@Peizxcv My 2014 Mazda3 was loud, my 2018 Signature 6 is pretty quiet tbh. I think you just haven't driven newer ones in a hot minute.
@@michaelkovalsky4907 Last Mazda 3 I’ve driven was a 2018 so maybe Mazda stopped being all looks and ZOOM ZOOM
My brother just picked up a grey integra aspec tech package with the CVT last week. I can say that it drives good. Personally i would still choose the manual the car feels more alive with it, but the automatic isnt as bad as i thought it was. And for interior noise, it isnt bad either. Fairly quiet even at 85 mph. Car is worth it if you can find it for msrp, not worth paying anything more than that
Alex, that pricing graph really tells a different story than anything Acura has said. Acura marketing should steal everything you just said.
Even ILX offered leather seats and a dual clutch transmission and probably a more reliable engine long term
what about in term of "luxury" aside the engine and the color options? Are really better the BMW 2 o 3 series or a Mercedes CLA in terms of "luxury" options and interior? Does it justify the extra money?
Few things are missing to make it great, 2L turbo, quiet interior, rear air vents. Everything from above they have in parts bin. Otherwise pricing gap of 10k with Civic difficult to justify. Step up 4k and get TLX.
no rear air vents put integra off my list. thx for the details
Maybe that will be corrected for the Integra Type S. All hope is not lost.
If you have kids, I can understand that. If you have adult friends sitting in the back seat of this car, f*** friends. They'll be fine. LOL!
Personally, I think the closest competitor to the Integra is the Mazda 3 Turbo.
Agreed. I wonder how it would stack up in a comparison. I’d likely lean more towards the Mazda, seems like a more cohesive package.
Seems to lack the refinement of my 10 yr old TSX Wagon, which has a 2.4 inline 4.
If it only had the 2.0 liter and 10 speed it would be much more competitive. The two liter with a manual would be a blast. The 1.5 doesn’t make it in its target market.
I’m glad they have the integra back but it is lacking in power. Having an additional 20-30hp would have been appreciated
Coming for the Integra Type S, but with +100hp horsepower.
With the Integra and Civic Hatchback (ST) sharing the same platform - why do your cargo 7:39 and cabin noise 16:43 scores differ greatly between the two?
The red seats look better on the color white, Integra. I bought the blue one with black seats. Love it.
Just bought one. And it is awesome.
Nice. Very nice.
After driving it for a week now, I’ve realized what Honda did is create the perfect daily driver. It’s engaging, practical, full of tech, and beautiful.
@@DerekHoiem I'm glad you are enjoying it. I'm going to hold out for the Integra Type S next year when Acura officially announces it and reveals it. All I want for it to have is a manual transmission. Everything else is a bonus.
I'm glad you're enjoying yours. I don't understand why the nostalgic nannies won't let go of the Integra being a 5-door when that's what it's always been since it's 1st generation with the exception of the 4th generation.
The Integra is exactly what it's always been and the new one is no different and follows the same formula as the old one. The self-proclaimed Integra diehards are ungrateful and set the bar way too high for something unrealistic. There is nothing wrong with the new Integra and I stand behind the Integra all the way.
@@antoinelee-thomas9536 The Type S is really what the enthusiasts are waiting for. The dealer confirmed it is indeed coming. If it were available I’d go for it. I was in a situation where I needed a car now.
What’s interesting is that I just read a story that Acura is selling way more Integras w/CVTs after the initial wave of manual transmissions sold to enthusiasts. The people who are buying the integra now are the people looking for the daily driver and as a sporty alternative to compact SUVs. Acura marketing did their homework and nailed it.
How much would the LSD help with accelerating/handling on ice and snow?
I would only want the base model and the fact that you have to go up to the A-Spec to get the 9" infotainment screen is a deal killer. I'll just look at the Civic Touring or CX-30.
i think ill go with mazda3 turbo😀
Me too!
That thing is about as cramped as the Camaro.
Alex, your thoughts on this Integra, fully spec'ed, compared to the Kia K5 GT with the GT1 package.
Should I get this for extra 10k, or stay with finalizing my deal at Mazda3 Select ? I don't know if the extra 10k is worth all the features and longevity and MPG etc.
10k? No.
Desperately waiting for integra type s
It's coming. Spy shots are out. Acura has yet to officially announce it, but it's pretty much set in stone.
Common sense discussion . Doesn’t typically go over well with Americans nowadays. Good luck.
You're right about that and this is usually the ones complaining about every new car that comes out that's enthusiast-based and we wonder why the complainers here in the U.S. will never get cool cars like Europe and Asia do because the complainers in the U.S. are ungrateful as they come. It's no wonder why automakers hate making cars for our market because the nostalgic nannies always have to complain about things that are not even worth complaining about.
cabin noise killed it for me - our other cars are quiet ... What would be a competitive vehicle that does have a quiet cabin? Mazda 3 turbo?
I think the wild part is the US got a cut down SI, Canada SI version has everything the Acura does cheaper. Weird. Also I think for the 30k mark, I would prefer a GTI over the Integra. 200HP/191TQ, you are going to feel that once you try to pass someone or pull out in traffic - not something I thought of until I had a low HP vehicle. Meanwhile the GTI is 243hp/273tq and its 2023 base vs the Integra base was 800 bucks cheaper with a CVT (36k+ for manual option). I think Acura is really upselling their stuff atm and thats why I am able to find them everywhere. Also Type S 52k start, stunning car but what the hell Acura.
Question: You mention 6 roller bags in this Integra, but only 3 in the parallel Civic Sport Touring. Does the Integra really have that much larger of a cargo hold?
He said civic has a truck and Integra has a hatch.
A handsome car, and all sedans should be liftbacks like this. Really needs the 2.0 though.
It needs the 2.0 turbo and if it must have an automatic transmission, the 8 speed dual clutch unit from the ILX.
@@philricci2012 and there you go adding $1,000/1,500 to the price. Does that sound like something most buyer want?
@@ATH_Berkshire this buyer does.
@@philricci2012 I couldn’t agree with you more!!!…the 1.5 is an absolutely slug IMO…I test drove both the 6MT and the CVT….very underpowered…the 2.0(252hp) from the current Accord would’ve been great in this…I used to own a 6MT 2.0 Accord…I can’t help but imagine that engine in this Integra lol…but nonetheless…I know the 2.0 is coming for the Type S variant…but at what cost…
@@Derek-pq3zb If Acura does recertify and tweak the DCT from the old ILX, anyone who claims to want an Integra with an automatic transmission (the 8-speed DCT) is going to be paying the most extreme price because they're asking Acura to break their pockets for a heavier yet more pricer vehicle with a complexed transmission. If they do it, they're going to charge $5,000-$7,000 of a premium for that spec/transmission alone and if very few people pay for it and Acura takes a loss going deeper in the red, the Integra Type S will be short lived or they have to get rid of the DCT leaving it manual-only for the Integra Type S to still exist for enthusiasts that still want to get their hands on it.
I live in an area that is regularly over 100F, so the lack of cooled seats is the only thing holding the Integra back for me…
@17:25 I was little surprised to hear "probable going to be one of the most reliable" with that 1.5 turbo engine? (I think we have discussed about it on live shows about its Oil dilution "feature"). However It is fantastic to hear you say its excellent, that its been made in India not German who is known to be more sporty. Adaptive suspension is key in this class I guess because if you take a STi a fantastic car but rides horrible. So it is important Acura to have adaptive suspension.
A lot of the early 10th gen civics had that issue, but it seems to have been all but fixed. Not to mention there's countless 1.5 turbo civics out there with high mileage already and doing just fine. The Integra will easily live to see 150k-200k miles.. a new german car? Doubt it. And even if it does, the cost to maintain it during that time will be way way higher
It’s been fixed several years ago, if you are not willing to check or do research to see whether this issue is fixed or not, you better not to say anything about oil dilution, because it looks like you are living under a rock.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 last time I listen to the live show about this oil dilution on Mar 10, 2022 "net result of that is Honda says its a feature, not a bug".
Give me that in a PHEV. It’s already really similar to the Clarity.
Considering how hard the Clarity flopped i doubt they're even considering that
A couple years back I compared the Acura ILX to the Lexus IS and I was shocked by the price difference. $24k vs $35k
35k will buy you a civic today
As a current ILX owner I think my next vehicle will be a Mazda 3 hatch over this.
Really hope they make a Type S version
I suspect they will...Acura would be dumb to leave money on the table. I may consider a Type-S in the future if they fix some of the issues with the car during a mid-cycle refresh.
There are spy shots of new Integra Type S in camouflage already being tested
They are. Spy shots have already been posted online through other automotive media outlets.
Acura has yet to confirm it officially with their words, but it is definitely cast in stone from spy shots photos the Integra Type S is real.
Alex - What brands have the best lane keep assist or lane centering systems? I'm thinking about the Mazda CX-50, RAV4, Honda Passport, Acura RDX, etc. I'd love to see a video from you going over the vehicles with the best driving assist features.
The Korean systems are generally better. I’d also add Honda Acura are below the Koreans but better than Toyota lexus
@@naveenthemachine I agree! I have a 19’ Camry Hybrid and LKA is non existing. Honda’s LKA is good but I have no experience w/ the Korean brands.
@@naveenthemachine Good info, thanks! I don't know if I'm ready to trust Hyundai or Kia yet. I like some of their models but they sure have had a lot of recalls and fire risk warnings. It's hard to beat Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura, and Mazda!
@@chrgav1286 although the LKA is improved for 2021
If the car cannot compete on power, throw the hybrid in there and give us good handling and good gas mileage. As it stands, I would probably skip this car for something sportier like a GTI or a hybrid.
The top trim of the GTI is not only sportier but in some ways actually more "luxury" than this thing with ventilated seats, heated rear seats, rear climate controls, quieter cabin, etc.
I have gotten as much as 40 mpg with my New Integra! It depends how You drive it! (I am not a fast driver)😁
@@jdipietronha top trim gti is literally 40k.
@@DAddy-iy9mu and the Integra is $38,295 for a difference of $2,265. Not sure what your point is?
I’d pick the Honda accord sport 2.0 but alas they took away the manual from that car.
I was very upset by that too because I had hoped to trade in my current car for a mid-cycle refresh Honda Accord Sport SE/2.0T with the 6-speed manual, but Honda made a shortsighted move and should've just let the manual transmission Accord live on to the end of the 10th gen Accord's life cycle and then axed it for its upcoming 11th generation that'll be coming out next year.
A real luxury Civic
The new Integra is an improvement over the old Integra; except, in people's minds.
Acura needs an entry level sedan and CUV to get more folks into the brand to upgrade later to the RDX, TLX, and MDX. The Integra is a good compromise to provides a lot of flexibility for a sedan look with CUV utility for a entry level Acura. Acura just needs to add an Advance model w/ or w/o hybrid tech Integra down the road (360 degree camera, ventilated seats, rear vents, 6-way passenger seat, heated rear seats, etc...).
Totally understand your premise, but come on Alex. It’s a member of Honda’s luxury division. I understand it might not be the fastest (trust me, I do! 😅), but they can excel on the appointments. The car itself doesn’t feel lux enough to warrant the price. I’m team luxury, but in this instance, stick with a banged out Civic.
If they made it RWD, it would be a winner....AWD would be cool too.
I think the pricing of the Acura has more to do with the price of the Civic. Acura can't charge too much more than Honda. If they did, they wouldn’t sell any. Regardless of the few extras, you get on an Acura.
Yes it would. You have old Integras selling for 80k
Maybe if they changed interior, rear air vents etc and SHAWD, hybrid, coupe
@bigums15 You get it sir. I applaud you for being one of only few who gets that.
If you liked the Honda CRV but didn't need the extra space and wanted the handling and fuel economy of a sedan. I can definitely see this being a top pick for most people.
I think it's a nice car, but for 38k, 200hp isn't enough. Give me 250 and now we're talkin
there is the genesis g70 for that
That's just a totally loaded model. It can be had (in theory) in the low thirties, where it makes more sense.
Power is just fine. The unrefined sounds inside the cabin is a bigger concern that will draw the market segment away.
There's still another car that only has a 1hp difference from the Integra.
I wanna see integra vs ilx
Major size difference and styling differences.
They are similar in looks actually. The one thing I really wanna see is a drag race between them.
@@johnathonbutler5490 Well, the ILX has an 8-speed DCT, but it rode on the 9th gen Civic/Civic Si platform although the 9th gen Civics had a CVT and the Si has the 205hp and 192lb-ft of torque, but dual mass flywheel.
The Integra has a CVT (obviously) but has simulated shifts and rides on the 11th gen Civic/Civic Si platform and has -5hp less than the Civic Si now.
The old ILX 8-speed DCT vs the Integra CVT weighs exactly the same as each other so that race could be a toss up.
As for the manual ILX vs manual Integra, the (2015) ILX Premium Package weighs in at 2,978lbs on a dual mass flywheel with 205hp and 192lb-ft and the manual Integra A-Spec Tech Pack is 3,073lbs on a single mass flywheel with an underrated 200hp and 192lb-ft, but no one will notice the difference in power to weight ratios between the two. They could be a tie too. The dual mass flywheel of the old ILX could keep it held back because of the single mass flywheel of the new Integra. I'm interested in seeing a race between both cars with both transmissions too.
It’s more just a civic with a fancy face than a luxury civic. If I wanted a luxury civic I’d get the accord
That made 0 sense what you just said
I drove an Integra for 20 years. They are a “nicer” civic. I hesitate to call it luxury. It doesn’t really match up to entry level luxury cars. But, while sharing a lot of the same interior parts it was a nicer car to be in. And, prior to the RSX rename of the integra it also had a larger, more powerful engine and was more fun to drive.
No red in the interior except touches for me!
Gorgeous
It's the same size and power level as the TSX. It's got the softer more refined nature of the TSX. If they had just called it a TSX Mark II it would have set all of the proper expectations.
I’m cross shopping between this Integra and the Civic Sport Touring Hatchback. It’s a tough decision.
I’d like to know how they compare . Mainly cabin noise and suspension stiffness.
@@JoeCole12 I ended up buying the Integra. Structurally, the Integra is much stiffer than the somewhat boaty ST Hatchback. It’s much more compliant than the Si. Even in Sport Mode. Overall, it’s the better car, for its well tuned chassis and features.
my 2021 ILX base model only cost $25000 out door price. fill better every way then the integra expect the Exterior look. 😅