@@danr6175, I have owned the Spring Drive and the 8800 movement. I think the Spring Drive would go longer without needing service. My 8800 needs servicing after 7 years.
I didn't even get to the "cost no object" part of the video before writing these comments... And my unaffected original thought's were - price no object, I'd go with this GS over the Tresor, as it's noticeably more exquisite in every way. But then I heard the prices. So Tresor it is. But then, as beautiful as the Tresor is, the GS is so freaking awesomely beautiful, so maybe it wins regardless. ARRGGHHH!! One of your best comparos ever Tim!
For a second, I thought I'd misheard you - $29,000 for the GS? And $22-23,000 pre-owned? That's getting into Patek Calatrava/Vacheron Patrimony territory. It's a beautifully well made watch, no doubt about it, but you'd have to be a real fan to choose it over either PP or VC.
If you make a $100,000 a year buying a +$20,000 watch is going to be most probably be a binary choice with a real emphasis on head over heart. If you make a $1,000,000 a year you can most probably afford to buy what you love rather than thinking I should have gotten a Patek because that is what watch youtube universe would have said I should.
I agree, the price is (or was) pretty steep. Then again you probably get more hand finishing with this GS than with any "entry level" PP/VC and additionally I think it is much more attractive.
maybe on the dial but not on the movement. he even mentioned the movement was machined. entry level pp/vc movements are machined but the final touches are all hand finished@@aaronw4537
GS charges an arm, a leg and then some for precious metal in fact I'd wager the delta between their steel and gold watches is far bigger than any other major brand. I prefer the Omega. I like the more traditional movement finishing and that price is just too much to ignore. I also like a date and that hour feature. More practical.
@@Melontheyoutuber Why do you need a crown on a dress watch, or lugs, or a strap? Maybe the only true dress watch is no watch. Watches are played out but hey do what you like and dictate what you like to other people.
I didnt think it was possible, but I actually like the simplicity of the Omega over the Seiko. ( In this instance only, other Gran Seiko watch faces for the win) However, the finishing of the case is superior in the Seiko
I have the both Grand Seiko and Omega 8800 caliber watch. I can tell you GS has superior quality, more precise and better looking watch than my 2022 Omega De Ville Prestige and the SMP 300M Diver! Grand Seiko is another level compares to an Omega in horology. I would compare GS with Zenith or JLC in terms of movements precision and with A. Lange Söhne, F.P. Journe, AP or Patek in terms of finishing and the overall quality especially with their sub brand Credor!
I have that Omega in yellow gold. Very nice watch; runs at about +1 s/d. I prefer to have a date and love the time-zone function. The case and dial on the GS is more attractive, but the movement is ugly. I am not sure which I'd choose, money no option, but I don't think I'd pay the $10k premium.
It’s hard to compare a “Limited Edition” watch model to another watch that is a regular run model because the former can’t ordinarily be sourced whereas the latter is readily available. And in the case of the Omega, not only is it readily available, but you can get it one of several versions to suit your tastes. Don’t get me wrong, I like the GS, but its run is already over with, and so comparing it to a regular-run model from another brand is almost an exercise in futility.
For me, a power reserve indicator is much more useful on an auto-wind than on a hand-wind watch. I have a G-P Seahawk dive watch with power reserve indicator that I can go weeks without winding. Sometimes, I may have had it off my wrist for more hours than I remember, and I like having the power reserve to tell me if it needs winding. If I'm wearing a hand-wind watch, then I probably know when I last wound it and I know how often it needs to be wound. I don't need the power reserve indicator to tell me to wind it--I'll wind it, anyway. If it's just about the date vs. the power reserve indicator, I'd take the Omega over the GS.
GS is nice and the deployent clasp is a big win but the Omega is damn nice and so much cheaper. An easy choice if money is no object but that's rarely the case so the Omega for me as it's at least attainable pre-owned.
No comparison really. An easy win for the GS here. The only advantages to the Omega, are the jump hour feature (very useful!) and the more accessible purchase price. Even if what…10 grand used, still ain’t cheap either!
@@HRM.H it's perfectly fine to like weird oversize show pieces, like if you are a collector and it's one of those million dollar horology curios with every complication known to mankind inside, but 36mm should be the default for a standard 3-hander that is obviously intended as a dress watch and not a "concept watch"
There is no comparison, the GS so much more pleasing on the eye it's insane. You could put that GS next to a Calatrava and it would hold its own.
I wonder which one is more reliable and robust, actually I don’t, it’s Omega.
@@danr6175, I have owned the Spring Drive and the 8800 movement. I think the Spring Drive would go longer without needing service. My 8800 needs servicing after 7 years.
I didn't even get to the "cost no object" part of the video before writing these comments...
And my unaffected original thought's were - price no object, I'd go with this GS over the Tresor, as it's noticeably more exquisite in every way. But then I heard the prices. So Tresor it is. But then, as beautiful as the Tresor is, the GS is so freaking awesomely beautiful, so maybe it wins regardless. ARRGGHHH!!
One of your best comparos ever Tim!
For a second, I thought I'd misheard you - $29,000 for the GS? And $22-23,000 pre-owned? That's getting into Patek Calatrava/Vacheron Patrimony territory. It's a beautifully well made watch, no doubt about it, but you'd have to be a real fan to choose it over either PP or VC.
If you make a $100,000 a year buying a +$20,000 watch is going to be most probably be a binary choice with a real emphasis on head over heart. If you make a $1,000,000 a year you can most probably afford to buy what you love rather than thinking I should have gotten a Patek because that is what watch youtube universe would have said I should.
I agree, the price is (or was) pretty steep. Then again you probably get more hand finishing with this GS than with any "entry level" PP/VC and additionally I think it is much more attractive.
maybe on the dial but not on the movement. he even mentioned the movement was machined. entry level pp/vc movements are machined but the final touches are all hand finished@@aaronw4537
GS charges an arm, a leg and then some for precious metal in fact I'd wager the delta between their steel and gold watches is far bigger than any other major brand. I prefer the Omega. I like the more traditional movement finishing and that price is just too much to ignore. I also like a date and that hour feature. More practical.
Why would you need a date on a dress watch? Omega is played out but hey wear what you like
@@Melontheyoutuber Why do you need a crown on a dress watch, or lugs, or a strap? Maybe the only true dress watch is no watch. Watches are played out but hey do what you like and dictate what you like to other people.
I didnt think it was possible, but I actually like the simplicity of the Omega over the Seiko. ( In this instance only, other Gran Seiko watch faces for the win) However, the finishing of the case is superior in the Seiko
I didn't even know this Omega existed. Thank you.
I have the both Grand Seiko and Omega 8800 caliber watch. I can tell you GS has superior quality, more precise and better looking watch than my 2022 Omega De Ville Prestige and the SMP 300M Diver! Grand Seiko is another level compares to an Omega in horology. I would compare GS with Zenith or JLC in terms of movements precision and with A. Lange Söhne, F.P. Journe, AP or Patek in terms of finishing and the overall quality especially with their sub brand Credor!
Great comparison! Two evenly matched watches. Would love to add that gorgeous GS to my collection.
Finally the comparison I was waiting for!
That Omega is gorgeous. But the GS is absolutely stunning.
Love them both.
Grand Seiko & Omega will both be in collection eventually.
I have that Omega in yellow gold. Very nice watch; runs at about +1 s/d. I prefer to have a date and love the time-zone function.
The case and dial on the GS is more attractive, but the movement is ugly.
I am not sure which I'd choose, money no option, but I don't think I'd pay the $10k premium.
Omega offers tremendous value by comparison. I haven’t the eye to judge the 15 k difference preowned.
Great review. As a side note, get those moulds / marks on your skin checked for skin cancer.
Grand Seiko. hands down!
I feel the Omega would look better with a nice lacquer or enamel dial instead of the pyramid texture
There is an enamel version of the Omega. Also METAS-cert. About $25k. Not sure if it is worth the premium, though.
They have several dial options. I like the burgundy dial version with burgundy gator strap.
It’s hard to compare a “Limited Edition” watch model to another watch that is a regular run model because the former can’t ordinarily be sourced whereas the latter is readily available. And in the case of the Omega, not only is it readily available, but you can get it one of several versions to suit your tastes. Don’t get me wrong, I like the GS, but its run is already over with, and so comparing it to a regular-run model from another brand is almost an exercise in futility.
You are fluent in yappanese.
@@HRM.H you are fluent in trolling.
Both GORGEOUS!!!
however, I am mesmerized by the GS sweeping Spring Drive second hand
Yes! Exactly! I love that! I just bought this piece!
For me, a power reserve indicator is much more useful on an auto-wind than on a hand-wind watch. I have a G-P Seahawk dive watch with power reserve indicator that I can go weeks without winding. Sometimes, I may have had it off my wrist for more hours than I remember, and I like having the power reserve to tell me if it needs winding. If I'm wearing a hand-wind watch, then I probably know when I last wound it and I know how often it needs to be wound. I don't need the power reserve indicator to tell me to wind it--I'll wind it, anyway.
If it's just about the date vs. the power reserve indicator, I'd take the Omega over the GS.
They're both great watches, but the GS is the correct choice --- unless price is an issue.
GS is nice and the deployent clasp is a big win but the Omega is damn nice and so much cheaper. An easy choice if money is no object but that's rarely the case so the Omega for me as it's at least attainable pre-owned.
That Omega Tresor is impeccably decorous.
Unless you insist on a purely mechanical movement or Swiss manufacturing, I don't see how the Omega can come close to this particular GS
GS is more than double the price
Interesting comparison, but for me, the winner is a third watch that's not even present: the GS in steel.
Both are better than Rolex movements
Tresor is just amazing 🤩
Grand Seiko Top
Are all Grand Seiko so beautiful?
I'm a Grand Seiko and Omega owner... so...
I'd buy the Omega in this article, and then a Grand Seiko Omiwatari
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I like how the gs has no escapement
Grand Seiko for me at every level! I still love omega but the gs is the best.
Definitely Grand Seiko
Both are Breathtaking, but i prefer the Springdrive😊
The GS is the winner. But for that price I would go for something else all together.
I will take Omega over GS based solely on my personal experience witth both brands.
The GS is easily worth double the price of the Omega. The Omega is bland compared to every single detail on the GS.
Love both brands, between these two watches the GS is clearly superior in every way. It’s gorgeous
IMO, the Grand Seiko beats Omega in every way, expect maybe the finishing of the movement.
GS by a mile
No comparison really. An easy win for the GS here. The only advantages to the Omega, are the jump hour feature (very useful!) and the more accessible purchase price. Even if what…10 grand used, still ain’t cheap either!
Maybe it ain't cheap, but you can pick up a late model Rolex Submariner along with this Omega, for the price of that Grand Seiko.
>when the "dress watch" size starts with 4
You do realize there are other people in the world??? Not everyone wants 32mm dresspieces
@@HRM.H it's perfectly fine to like weird oversize show pieces, like if you are a collector and it's one of those million dollar horology curios with every complication known to mankind inside, but 36mm should be the default for a standard 3-hander that is obviously intended as a dress watch and not a "concept watch"
The GS dial looks damaged sitting next to that Omega.