That Armour with the trauma pad is seriously good. Even the 22-250 is very powerful compared to 223 and stopping the 300 win mag is insanely good. A lot better armour than when I served. Thanks for the video Chuck 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
I bought the level IV plate and a plate carrier. I’ve worn various vests and plate carriers while serving in the Marine Corps, some of that time was in combat during OIF. I had never heard of Tacticon but the prices were excellent. I had purchased their tactical weapon light and it was top quality and about a 1/5th the price of my Surefire lights so I thought I would give them a chance. The plate carrier alone is worth about $250 but I got the carrier, two trauma pads and two level IV plates for about $450. It is excellent and I think the same manufacturer that makes the plate carrier must also makes the Agilite K19 carrier because they are identical and of the same quality. I try to purchase my gear from other veterans and they did not disappoint.
Great video sir. I really like those guys at Tacticon, ive been watching their videos for awhile and have bought several items from them, all of which have been extremely nice. I saw they had these trauma pads for sale and been looking to see someone do a test with them exactly how you did! Very impressed with the results, appreciate your hard work.
I just got my tacticon level four minute man package and DAMN am i IMPRESSED.... Thanks for the video. Im that much more confident that Tacticon is THE BEST civilian armory there is. (On the clean market that is.)
Thank you for the video sir. Very impressive! How much does your plate weigh? I'm eyeing the Tacticon lvl 4 6lb multi-curve plate but also debating between that or buying their SRT+ 4.1lb just for affordability and weight. I don't expect to get shot with 30.06 defending my home but am concerned about the m80 green tip in SHTF in a mountainous/urban environment. Wonder if I minus well just break the bank, save up, and buy lvl 4s just to have it but my concern is also its weight. I'm trying to get my plate carrier to weigh about the same as grunts/SOCOM guys or at least a reasonable weight to carry under possible 80-100-degree F heat. Based on what I've read, it looks like people's carrier setup ranges from 15 to 30 lbs. Any thoughts or recommendations?
Tactical competitive shooting forces you to weigh your plate carrier at 22 pounds so that's probably a good spot for a plate carrier weight but of course lighter is better.
I have some of their steel plates. 16 pounds without spall or carrier! I’ve become real good at taking it off underwater but I still don’t even like crossing bridges with it on.
Just make sure you cover the steel on another 10 coats of flex seal or epoxy soft IIIa armor on to catch the bullet fragments off the steel. By the way... both the .22-250 and the .300winmag rounds I'm shooting here will go right through ar600 steel. But it will stop most threats except for us rednecks with reloading benches.
@@AlaskanBallisticsthanks for the reply (y'all got some damn beautiful land up there). I did see that. I live in the city, and so the main threat is really from the criminal element with the 'typical' weapons. I will likely order the level 4 plates just to have on hand for SHTF, but that'll be on another paycheck. I was won over by their lifetime warranty.
@tylerkinley268 sweet. I have a link for them when you're ready to order. alnk.to/dWaQpFK I appreciate it! I pray you can move out of the city as far as possible.
Thank You kindly. I don't think their III+ plates would stop my .22-250 or .300 win mag loads. But most people aren't preparing for rednecks with reloading benches.
I agree my cheap solution (for CQB anyway) to defeating level 4 armor was through shear blunt force trauma with a 12 gauge magnum slug. I wish someone would trust 3 inch slugs especially the brenneke black magic against hard armor and clay behind it
Easily level IV armor would stop that. Most 3A pistol rated armor stops slugs. I don't think the backface deformation would be even half as significant as the .300 win mag loads used here.
@@AlaskanBallistics whooteewhoo channel tested magnum hard cast slugs against a level 4 and the backface deformation was massive like 2 inches , however I did more research and the way he had the plate held with nothing backing it can exacerbate backface deformation so that test would in theory incorrectly show true backface amount if it was up against a body because of different force distribution.
@@AlaskanBallistics black magic magnum slugs actually have more momentum than 300 win mag and even some 338 lapua loads. I did research and momentum can contribute more to backface deformation than kinetic energy because momentum is more efficient energy transfer lol 🤷♂. Stuff is a bit over my head I’m no physicist 😂
Basically a lot of kinetic energy transfers into thermal energy upon impact so heavier slower projectiles with less kinetic energy but more momentum can cause more blunt trauma because the ceramic easily absorbs the thermal energy
Most properly manufactured standalone plates shouldn’t need a trauma pad at all unless the need for the trauma pad it implies the plate is underbuilt or mislabeled to be standalone when it should be ICW. Curious what that pad is made of though. PE or aramid material or just simply foam padding?
I hunt elk and mule deer and antelope in northern NM. The 300. whetherby mag is THE gun for high altitude mountain hunters... A 308. catches wind and moves quite a bit on those canyon shots. 😉
@@AlaskanBallistics i don’t want them to defeat lvl 4 I’d just like to load some for funsies. I’ve been looking for awhile and i can find loaded rounds for 2 bucks a piece and I’d hate to pull them apart. Doubt they get extremely accurate anyway but would be fun to play with. I’d never waste ammo trying to defeat armor when it only covers such a small area 😊
@@AlaskanBallistics phew yeah that’s a lot. I have some m855a1 no m80a1 though though i do have some 7.62x51 api rounds that were 7$/round before shipping costs lol.
Great video . But let’s be honest you take a hit to the plate with winmag or the other I’ve never heard of and you are gonna be on the ground hurting trying to catch your breath. I have some ar600 plates I might want those trauma pads for purely for comfort when the carrier is tight against you
Good reason for trauma pads. So the .22-250 cartridge is a very fast 22 caliber with a casing that is larger than .223rem and based on the old 250 savage cartridge. Or was very popular with groundhog hunters as it shoots a bullet so fast that the drop isn't bad and the wind doesn't have time to catch up to it out to 300 yards. I've got a video with exclusively different .22-250 loads testing against armor. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/IhjsGLsDG9c/видео.htmlsi=3iUcIna04AbDNl5r So a 5.56 nato out of a 20-inch ar15 sends a 62gr bullet at a max of a 3150. This .22-250 is sending the same bullet 3620. I've got 40gr bullets at over 4200 fps. Either of those will be like a hot knife through butter on your ar600 armor. But you don't really have to worry about it, only us rednecks with reloading benches will have that. Also with ar600 steel, the bullet splatter can be potentially lethal, cover it with a soft 3a pistol armor and glue/epoxy it on really well. I've got links to botach who has a really cheap (but works) 3a pistol armor for like 60 something bucks.
@AlaskanBallistics Okay, I am down. Probably have to wait until February. I am getting ready to go out of town for work. Besides the Barrett I also have a 338 laupua.
Buyer beware!! Ordered my set of plates and trauma pads on the 2nd of April. After doing many hours of research I ordered from Tacticon. They seemed reputable and knowledgeable. I still haven’t received them. USPS priority is garbage. So far no one knows where my order is. Called Tacticon and they basically told me if you didn’t ”buy the insurance” there’s nothing we can do for you. I receive packages from Europe and Asia without an issue. But I guess USPS priority shipping is a joke. Meanwhile I’m out the money I paid for this order. I didn’t take the insurance because I didn’t order ceramic plates. Figured they can’t break the ar600 steal plates. Needless to say I’ll never buy from Tacticon again. Customer service is garbage. They would even try on their end to find out from usps where the package is.
Impressed the armor stood up to the test.
Me too but I've shot level IV armor before so I knew it would stop it.
That Armour with the trauma pad is seriously good. Even the 22-250 is very powerful compared to 223 and stopping the 300 win mag is insanely good. A lot better armour than when I served. Thanks for the video Chuck 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
Thank you for always watching my friend! Godspeed and good hunting to you!
Yeah f-ing crazy velos on those rounds. Amazing
I chronograph them on another video. They are insane
@@AlaskanBallistics your 22-250 AR is very cool
Thanks it's a work in progress. Just got to find m995 projectiles.
Freezer to keep stuff warm, welcome to Alaskan winter😆
Pretty much
I bought the level IV plate and a plate carrier. I’ve worn various vests and plate carriers while serving in the Marine Corps, some of that time was in combat during OIF. I had never heard of Tacticon but the prices were excellent. I had purchased their tactical weapon light and it was top quality and about a 1/5th the price of my Surefire lights so I thought I would give them a chance. The plate carrier alone is worth about $250 but I got the carrier, two trauma pads and two level IV plates for about $450. It is excellent and I think the same manufacturer that makes the plate carrier must also makes the Agilite K19 carrier because they are identical and of the same quality. I try to purchase my gear from other veterans and they did not disappoint.
Awesome. Glad you enjoy the gear! Godspeed and good hunting!
Note to self: don’t get shot with a 300win mag 15 ft away
Always a good plan... we were about 40 ft away... same difference I get it
Great video sir. I really like those guys at Tacticon, ive been watching their videos for awhile and have bought several items from them, all of which have been extremely nice. I saw they had these trauma pads for sale and been looking to see someone do a test with them exactly how you did! Very impressed with the results, appreciate your hard work.
Thank you kindly! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours!
I just got my tacticon level four minute man package and DAMN am i IMPRESSED.... Thanks for the video. Im that much more confident that Tacticon is THE BEST civilian armory there is. (On the clean market that is.)
It's good stuff for sure. Godspeed and good hunting to you
"It is made in the United States... if you consider California the United States anymore." - Based Alaskan Ballistics
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Thank you for the video sir. Very impressive! How much does your plate weigh? I'm eyeing the Tacticon lvl 4 6lb multi-curve plate but also debating between that or buying their SRT+ 4.1lb just for affordability and weight. I don't expect to get shot with 30.06 defending my home but am concerned about the m80 green tip in SHTF in a mountainous/urban environment. Wonder if I minus well just break the bank, save up, and buy lvl 4s just to have it but my concern is also its weight.
I'm trying to get my plate carrier to weigh about the same as grunts/SOCOM guys or at least a reasonable weight to carry under possible 80-100-degree F heat. Based on what I've read, it looks like people's carrier setup ranges from 15 to 30 lbs. Any thoughts or recommendations?
This is the 6lb plate. All I can tell you is to work out with one.
Tactical competitive shooting forces you to weigh your plate carrier at 22 pounds so that's probably a good spot for a plate carrier weight but of course lighter is better.
This is a great video brotha !!!
Been buying for years, never the ceramic plates. But now I’m convinced ❤
Yeah level 3+ steel wouldn't come close to stopping these
@@AlaskanBallistics
Not going to lie. I’m thinking cause I just picked some 4s17’s.
Could basically get their full kit for that price
@Thetexan210 yep
I'd recommend Spartan armor systems body armor for anybody who doesnt want to break the bank for some grade AIII+ Protection.
Yeah they're not bad. But their level IV stuff isn't inexpensive.
I have some of their steel plates. 16 pounds without spall or carrier! I’ve become real good at taking it off underwater but I still don’t even like crossing bridges with it on.
Just bought an ar600 package from tacticon (caught the 50 percent off sale). The more i see about them the more sure i am that they will do the job.
Just make sure you cover the steel on another 10 coats of flex seal or epoxy soft IIIa armor on to catch the bullet fragments off the steel.
By the way... both the .22-250 and the .300winmag rounds I'm shooting here will go right through ar600 steel. But it will stop most threats except for us rednecks with reloading benches.
@@AlaskanBallisticsthanks for the reply (y'all got some damn beautiful land up there).
I did see that. I live in the city, and so the main threat is really from the criminal element with the 'typical' weapons. I will likely order the level 4 plates just to have on hand for SHTF, but that'll be on another paycheck. I was won over by their lifetime warranty.
@tylerkinley268 sweet. I have a link for them when you're ready to order. alnk.to/dWaQpFK
I appreciate it! I pray you can move out of the city as far as possible.
But will it stop 6.5 Creedmoor at 1000 yards?
Nothing can stop a creedmoor! It might even stop it at 2000 yards 😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤪
@@AlaskanBallistics lmao
👍👍Looks good!! Thanks Chuck
Thank you brother
Tacticon Armament is legit, specially their 3+ plates + trauma pad kit. Good review video man, earned a sub.
Thank You kindly.
I don't think their III+ plates would stop my .22-250 or .300 win mag loads. But most people aren't preparing for rednecks with reloading benches.
Well, reckon I already knew which side I was on and what they wouldn't throw at me lol.
Me too brother
I agree my cheap solution (for CQB anyway) to defeating level 4 armor was through shear blunt force trauma with a 12 gauge magnum slug. I wish someone would trust 3 inch slugs especially the brenneke black magic against hard armor and clay behind it
Easily level IV armor would stop that. Most 3A pistol rated armor stops slugs. I don't think the backface deformation would be even half as significant as the .300 win mag loads used here.
@@AlaskanBallistics whooteewhoo channel tested magnum hard cast slugs against a level 4 and the backface deformation was massive like 2 inches , however I did more research and the way he had the plate held with nothing backing it can exacerbate backface deformation so that test would in theory incorrectly show true backface amount if it was up against a body because of different force distribution.
@@AlaskanBallistics black magic magnum slugs actually have more momentum than 300 win mag and even some 338 lapua loads. I did research and momentum can contribute more to backface deformation than kinetic energy because momentum is more efficient energy transfer lol 🤷♂. Stuff is a bit over my head I’m no physicist 😂
Basically a lot of kinetic energy transfers into thermal energy upon impact so heavier slower projectiles with less kinetic energy but more momentum can cause more blunt trauma because the ceramic easily absorbs the thermal energy
Send me the plate, I'll do the test
Most properly manufactured standalone plates shouldn’t need a trauma pad at all unless the need for the trauma pad it implies the plate is underbuilt or mislabeled to be standalone when it should be ICW.
Curious what that pad is made of though. PE or aramid material or just simply foam padding?
Very tough foam loading I believe. I'll ask
Thank you for the review.
@@mayhembeading3737 you're welcome. Thank you for watching
I hunt elk and mule deer and antelope in northern NM. The 300. whetherby mag is THE gun for high altitude mountain hunters... A 308. catches wind and moves quite a bit on those canyon shots. 😉
Want to bring your 300 weatherby up here and shot body armor with it?
Im surprised the gel isn’t frozen
It was getting there lol. Kept in the truck until needed
As usual super impressed by another Tacticon product. Man I would imagine that backface deformation is going to hurt if not kill you!
Yes but a trauma pad would help
AB. Good video. Thanks for sharing and take care.
Thanks Bobcat!
I kept expecting to see your gel block shatter like the T1000
Lol
If you can take the weight trauma pads should be a level 3a vest.
Sure
Good test level 4 armor is ligit
Very Legit
Great test!!
Thanks brother
Where can a fella get some A1 bullets to load? Did you buy m855a1/m80a1 and pull the bullets or do you have a source cause I’d love to load some.
Had, past tense a source. Godspeed and good luck!
They don't do much on level IV so...
@@AlaskanBallistics i don’t want them to defeat lvl 4 I’d just like to load some for funsies. I’ve been looking for awhile and i can find loaded rounds for 2 bucks a piece and I’d hate to pull them apart. Doubt they get extremely accurate anyway but would be fun to play with.
I’d never waste ammo trying to defeat armor when it only covers such a small area 😊
@itsamk18-ish i get it. These were 4 dollars a projectile. Better get the ones loaded.
@@AlaskanBallistics phew yeah that’s a lot. I have some m855a1 no m80a1 though though i do have some 7.62x51 api rounds that were 7$/round before shipping costs lol.
I dont need a trauma pad. My abs are my trauma pad. My lats are my trauma pad. Do you even lift bro?
Not since I've got dozens of pinched nerves in my back.
Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
Great video . But let’s be honest you take a hit to the plate with winmag or the other I’ve never heard of and you are gonna be on the ground hurting trying to catch your breath.
I have some ar600 plates I might want those trauma pads for purely for comfort when the carrier is tight against you
Good reason for trauma pads.
So the .22-250 cartridge is a very fast 22 caliber with a casing that is larger than .223rem and based on the old 250 savage cartridge.
Or was very popular with groundhog hunters as it shoots a bullet so fast that the drop isn't bad and the wind doesn't have time to catch up to it out to 300 yards. I've got a video with exclusively different .22-250 loads testing against armor. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/IhjsGLsDG9c/видео.htmlsi=3iUcIna04AbDNl5r
So a 5.56 nato out of a 20-inch ar15 sends a 62gr bullet at a max of a 3150. This .22-250 is sending the same bullet 3620.
I've got 40gr bullets at over 4200 fps. Either of those will be like a hot knife through butter on your ar600 armor.
But you don't really have to worry about it, only us rednecks with reloading benches will have that.
Also with ar600 steel, the bullet splatter can be potentially lethal, cover it with a soft 3a pistol armor and glue/epoxy it on really well. I've got links to botach who has a really cheap (but works) 3a pistol armor for like 60 something bucks.
Nice plate
Thank You
Let me know when you want to test against the Barrett.
Anytime. I shot almost every weekend
@AlaskanBallistics Okay, I am down. Probably have to wait until February. I am getting ready to go out of town for work. Besides the Barrett I also have a 338 laupua.
@AKGUY47 cool. I'm busy with work events just about every Saturday in february. Email me @Alaskanballistics@gmail.com
Buys armor..
Buys trauma pad..
....gets shot in face.
I'm not that pretty anyway. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
338 lapua magnum with a steel core would slip through
Probably, Do you know where I can get some?
@@AlaskanBallistics Nop Sir
If you live in Alaska we can go film it
Buyer beware!! Ordered my set of plates and trauma pads on the 2nd of April. After doing many hours of research I ordered from Tacticon. They seemed reputable and knowledgeable. I still haven’t received them. USPS priority is garbage. So far no one knows where my order is. Called Tacticon and they basically told me if you didn’t ”buy the insurance” there’s nothing we can do for you. I receive packages from Europe and Asia without an issue. But I guess USPS priority shipping is a joke. Meanwhile I’m out the money I paid for this order. I didn’t take the insurance because I didn’t order ceramic plates. Figured they can’t break the ar600 steal plates. Needless to say I’ll never buy from Tacticon again. Customer service is garbage. They would even try on their end to find out from usps where the package is.
Texted my contact a screenshot of your comment.
Hmm, they must not like me....
Weird I talked to them about you
Those are OBSCENE loads/rounds to stop
Pretty much
At $500 a plate it should stop all of that.
Or you cash her a set of two with a carrier and trauma pads for 597.. Link on my mewe or twitter/X feed