Actualy you have reason But Polyphemus went to far, you see welcoming the stranger was very important And no one had the rigth to kill the strangers, expiacyl if they offered gifts.
First of all I love how Polyphemus looks so young here as if he is about the same age as Odysseus maybe even younger. You know, in human years not Cyclops years. Also, we have to consider that Polyphemus lived alone with his sheep. There were other Cyclops but they weren't friends or something. So his favourite sheep is like someone else's favourite person. Best friend. So Odysseus practically killed his best friend so Polyphemus did the same. I also love Odysseus expressions. Like, you don't show him frightened all the time, he's more like he has to actually listen to all those terrible threats that he knows the Cyclops means and still not show any fear because he is a leader and a soldier and he can't show that he is terrified, even though he has a plan. I can basically see him trying to stop himself from shaking while he is listening to Polyphemus
Well Polyphemus also lives by his sheep. Can't say if they are "his friends" but he certainly has them for nutrition (in Odyssey he drinks only their milk) and he has them for food and clothing etc. Basically he is a Shephard. So of couese his flock is important to him. His relationshisp with the other cyclops is indeed not known in Odyssey but maybe they are close enough to be a community (they come to ask who hurt him) but they lack the emotional capacity to be close to each other (they no longer care when they believe he did it himself) so yeah maybe they are semi-isolated from each other and keep themselves to themselves so to speak. But in any case the whole thing should end at the mutual apologies but Polyphemus chose to violate the rules of Xenia by killing those who entered his house
@@katerinaaquSo kind of like a neighbour who you rarely speak to but still say hi and ask how their doing when you cross each other in the street or some thing
@galaxycat3698 Yeah kinda or the neighbor you can't avoid say hi to and if he is too noisy you feel socially obliged to ask what happened. On Odyssey it is mentioned that they kinda lived each on their own keeping themselves to themselves so to speak even if they shared a prosperous land that was great for agriculture and such. So they were not emotionally close but they would stick with their own kind so to speak. It doesn't say whether they had any other kind of relationship but that which seems indeed to be the case; that they just co-existed they didn't really build relationships to each other
@@galaxycat3698 From what I remember, the other cyclops are also children of Poseidon, so more estranged family who don't really speak to each other, this explains why they're concerned when they hear Polyphemus screaming but when he yells "Nobody" go back to what they were doing. The original book describes them as "barbaric" which, given this is Greece, could simply mean dumb and simple.
@@hernethehunter5703It's kind of interesting to note that the Cyclops were never specified to be a race of one-eyed people. Just that they were gigantic, insolent, lawless shepherds that each lived on their own in their caves. Only Polyphemus was specified to have one eye.
Well...yes...but no too indeed. I mean the initial reaction of anger and such so human indeed but once someone tries to make amends you don't exactly kill them all like that either hehehehe But I see your point!
@theone-gu9eu they weren't his family they were his flock. He is a herder and a Shepard of course they mean a lot to him because they are his source of nutrition (meat milk cheese) and in a way his company but not his family and obviously not the "only family he's got" given that Poaeidon still cares for him. Also in the original story they didn't kill anything they just waited for him. But even in this story, they offered a compensation gift for accidentally killing one of his animals like in modern era you are supposed to pay money to the Shepard if you kill one of their animals. Going on a full killing spree is not the way especially if the other apologizes. Odysseus had to take advise from the gods and then do another trip to cleanse himself from the murder of the suitors and they were planning the murder of his son. Imagine in this context
I love that Polyphemus is shown through such an understanding lens while Odysseus is just a cocky little shit about his plan to drug him and escape with the flock, I love this portrayal so much
To me even in this version Odysseus didn't put theft in mind. He enters a cave that seems "too good to be true" and then tries to negotiate an apology while he drugs the wine as a precaution because he cannot trust a Maneater. In the original version they didn't even kill the sheep but waited seeking shelter and Polyphemua mocked the laws of gods and killed and ate his comrades there and then so Odysseus gets him drunk to save himself and the 4 men that were left
Odysseus does tell the survivors to bring the flock along in a later song, and with his crew starving in this retelling it's hard to say for certain that he would've just left had Polyphemus honored the laws of hospitality. Polyphemus still dishonored those laws by accepting the offer only to still attack them, I just enjoy seeing more monstrous characters given depth and reason for their outrage as well as heroes that are allowed to be duplicitous, arrogant and conniving in the same scene
You made Polyphemus so incredibly… passive looking? I’m not sure how to describe it but I’ll try. When I listened to the soundtrack by itself, I was terrified of Polyphemus. Legitimately, the ending verse of “Survive” ACTUALLY gave me trouble sleeping. I had a hard time listening to “Polyphemus” again after listening to it a first time. Goes to show how amazing the music is. But it also didn’t make me see Polyphemus as a person. A big part of the musical is that Odysseus learns that he’s not as good of a person as he thought he was, and his fight with the Cyclops is mentioned a lot as one of the times Odysseus was a bad person for not killing the Cyclops out of mercy. But I didn’t really see the big deal about it 😅. I thought that such a terrifying monster, a monster who could terrify someone just with sound, didn’t really deserve the empathy. But here, you made Polyphemus very… gentle. I always imagined him as an enormous shadow over Odysseus and the soldiers. I never even called him by his name until now. But you made him act so undeniably human that I suddenly feel like Odysseus is the one in the wrong here for killing Polyphemus sheep, despite there being no way of him knowing that and the fact that Odysseus was the one who tried to offer peace and payment to Polyphemus. You made such an evil and horrifying monster into a person. That’s… INCREDIBLY impressive. Again, this guy gave me trouble SLEEPING.
I will just tell u from the something I found out in Percy Jackson book ok? Those sheeps were basically man eating sheeps idk if it's officially true in the myths but it was written in Percy Jackson second book. The fact that Odysseus didn't tell his name tells us that he knows he just came inside a dumb lions cave and he can get out if he plays dumb as well. If he never blinded the cyclops a lot of people have died and not only that he knows that a lot of families would have suffered and again if ur asking me y he hasn't ended the suffering of the ur talking abt a huge giant who eats tiny humans when he is hungry it's a fight or clever flight situation. I am just trying to get u into prospective of the other party I still don't know how Odysseus men killed one of those sheep in the first place with one arrow no less.
mostly agree witch you but not about Odysseus was a bad person for not killing the Cyclops out of mercy becouse there nothing to do witch good bad or mercy Polyphemus may be blind but he still big Cyclops if he trow his hand to you or just a scratch it enough to kill you all Odysseus can in this situation is only runaway
i like the implication here that polyphemus knows that "nobody" is lying about his name and he's decided to kill them all bc he believes that he's being played and has been since the start
If he knew he was being played he wouldn't have said "Nobody hurt me" he would say "this man hurt him. He lied" I doubt he had any idea he was being played. Which is how the myth worked after all. Normally anyone with a pea brain could see that someone cannot be named "nobody" but Polyphemus did believe it
@lindenshepherd6085 well it still made little sense. In ancient Greek it would be "Ούτις" "Ùtis" and yeah although it does sound like name in modern ears it still would mean "nobody" in antiquity which would still strike as odd. Okay I mean there were fellows with name that translated as "blue" or "bright" etc and even "Polites" simply means "citizen" or "someone who resides in a city" but still maybe the name "Nobody" would still strike as odd. I believe it was to show Odysseus's cunning and the little mental capacity of Polyphemus or that Polyphemus was already drunk at that point or tipsy so he didn't put two and two together
@keeganross well it was still weird for someone to be named as such i believe. We do have plenty weird namws in mythology of course but Nobody kinda surprasses that hehehe there are so many demi gods either sons of Poseifon or of any other God on homeric poems that it's not that odd. Besides a great deal of Poseidon's children were either giants or monsters and at some point they became infamous criminals like those Theseus faced. The Poseidon family is a little bit overboard hahaha well that was the point hahahaha to show the cunning vs raw strength battle. Normally someone would be skeptical against a man whose comrades you have just eaten. I doubt that he would wish you good but yeah when Odysseus got him drunk he introduced himself as Nobody. And when woken up by this incredible pain the last thing he could do was to put two and two together Hehehe you are not wrong though hehe I mention that too to my reply
1:36 love when his eye lost the light, showing him ready to get violent. For a moment he was human until it was taken and he was ready to become the beast they saw him as.
I think my favorite part is the way Polyphemus says "wine?" Either he doesn't know what wine is or he's legitimately offended that this asshole little human thing is giving him some cheap booze to make up for killing his favorite sheep.
Neither the one nor the other. In Odyssey it is stated that cyclopses knew what wine was but they didn't make it often. He was actually excited to taste such a great wine. Two it wasn't "cheap booze". Originally it was a godsend wine they had for Xenia gift exchanges. Also in bronze age there weren't any currencies so what Odysseus is offering is compensation or fee for accidentally killing his flock like you would pay a Shephard tax if you hit one of their sheep with your car. You would just use money while Odysseus would use material. Ps: in the original Odyssey they didn't even touch his sheep. They waited for him to offer him gifts of Xenia and then take provisions of hospitality as an exchange and then they would be on their way
@@katerinaaqu more of the animatic rearranging the context of the song I think, and in it's own fair way i'd say. From original myth to adapted, script, even an individual actor playing the same role and reading the same scene might just act it out ever so slightly different put of personal temperament and interpretation. Which I imagine is what's happening with these different animatics, an acceptable amount of wiggle room. The cyclops pupil is still dilated into a predatory gaze, gives of the impression he's still rather mad but is keeing it back out of confusion.
@LizVargas100 of course. I am referring to the song in general. As in the original Odyssey no one killed any of his flock. Obviously the creators of the musical wanted an extra motive for Polyphemus to kill them among others. And yes each creator of these animatics simply adds what they think is better based on the sound material they have. But either way the tone of the singer is out of surprise and longing to respond to the original Odyssey in which Polyphemus was positively surprised by the gift as well as ot seems to me here
Nah odysseus planned on taking the sheep once polyphemus was knocked out you can tell durring the song remember them when he said "Lets grab the sheep and away we go" in other words hed be waking up to his sheep being gone
Ooohhh, the way you framed it, it's almost like Polyphemus caught Odysseus' "Nobody" lie, and that's when he decided he was still going to kill them all.
0:45 love this image it is a great reveal of the cyclops. Overall you did great with the cyclops. this animatic had me on the same page as Odysseus feeling like he had gotten himself out of the trouble only to find he hadn't, where others make the danger know front and center, this feels like it follows the tone of the song really closely and shows how Odysseus underestimated the cyclops. A really neat take.
by far one of the best animatics for this musical i've seen. *especially* that last shot, the way you used animation in an animatic to catch us off guard like odysseus was gave me CHILLS
You kill his pet and think some booze is gonna smooth it over? That is probably the second dumbest thing you've ever thought of Odysseus, my dude. Just added insult to injury.
Normally it shouldn't be. He accidentally kills livestock and he offers something in return as a compensation gift (modern times people would pay compensation or something) so the thing should end there. Killing people is not exactly civilized answer now is there? Also in Odyssey the wine was quoted to be godsend and not regular one and so again it was a symbolic exchange if anything (in Odyssey they didn't even kill his sheep. Polyphemus just randomly mocked the laws of Xenia and smashed two men on the ground eating them )
I've seen a few animations of this song and this one definitely makes Polyphemus a lot more sympathetic and chill compared to the other animations which just make him look menacing
This is amazing! The expressions of the characters is on point I felt like I was watching a movie! I genuinely said "aw" when Polyphemus buried the sheep. I never thought of him doing that!
@@Morningstar_37 you may have a point with the lotus but the “it’s not cannibalism with two different types of beings” doesn’t really hold up. For one it’s Greek mythology, cannibalism is a major taboo whether your human or god or in between, even when Cronus ate his kids and they survived it was still considered cruel and Zeus had no problem punishing humans for it either. Also if we go by the logic of different species equals different treatment then the cyclops shouldn’t be mad if humans are considered a different species since from the human perspective it’s not theft if it’s from a different species so they don’t have to respect Polyphemus’ property since he’s not human
@@johnmartin4119 however, even if humans are a different species, he is still justified in being mad since he sees them as less than him, like if an animal killed my pets you bet I would be mad even if that animal doesn't know that it belongs to me.
Your art??? Is stunning!!! Your cyclops design, Ody and Euri and Paul! The bowl Polyphemus drinks from looks so wonderfully tiny in his hands. Just followed you so if you put out any more videos I'll know!!! You did a very great job!
Imagine that you are a farmer living quietly, one day you come home and find many tiny people in your house stealing your food and killing your animals, including your pet sheep.
WOAHHH THIS IS SO GOOD! me and my brother have been obsessed with this musical and just watched this together. How the characters move is just so good! and how you draw faces! and Eyebrows! and HANDS! I NEED to download this into my Brain and keep it there forever
Odysseus was so happy back then. He had Polities and Eurylochus alive, and he smiled back then. It was the calm before the storm they didn't know was coming.
Okay so it took me five years but I think I got it My favorite thing about animation, especially RUclips animations, are eye movements. I just...get the shivers when I see pupils retract or expand to signify anger, shock, or that predatory stare and very, very slight narrowing Polythemus exhibited at the very last seconds there. I genuinely love the Hands that draw this sorta stuff. Thank you
I think its the end that really makes you scared in this animation. You see picture and frame by frame. In a nice consistent flow however at the end the eye turn was smooth as butter in a hot pan. And thgen the dark force emanating from that behemoth was what really makes atleast me somewhat scared
This is amazing omg!! Also I'm crazy I know but Polyphemus is actually kinda...handsome actually? And it just makes me love this animatic even more so.
Knowing Odysseus it could be hahahahahahaha current pun at least since the blinding decision came after the murder of his comrades hahahahahahaha it could be worse! Hahahaha at least he said "eye to eye" hahahaha he used singular hahahaha
Hiii! first off i love how crisp(?) / clear your drawing is !! The expressions on all the men , calm yet righteously sad Polyphemus & Odessey in being a smooth -talker for their lives and the unbearable fear as he whispers “…What?…” Oh ! you have now a new subscripter!
You mean Polyphemus? Hahahaha indeed he just had flocks of sheep and goats and he was making cheese and milking them for milk or use them for food. Hahahaha yeah he was a herder
I like how he buried the sheep. Even though he might as well have given it to the crew to eat and make use of it, it was the act of reverence and kindness that mattered.
I loved your design of everyone, Polyphemus in particular. I thought it was a nice touch that you let him bury his sheep, Ody and his men are *not* taking that one. I always wondered, isn't the wine they give Poly from a container in his cave, meaning it was his wine they were trying to trade? If it's theirs, why would they bring it from the ship to the cave if they think it's unoccupied? I'm overthinking. Either way, a quick drink can't replace a living, breathing friend, so I don't blame him (as much) for what he does next. He's an emotional sort, has been intruded upon and now he's in terrible distress.
The more I read into Greek myth, the more I feel sorry for the monsters in them. Asterion didn't asked to be trapped in a labyrinth and fed only prisoners. Medusa didn't asked to get raped by a god and turned into a monster as a means to protect her. And Polyphemus didn't asked for his pet to be killed and to be blinded for defending his home..
It's worth noting that that version of the Medusa myth is Roman, not Greek. The version seems to have been either invented wholesale or modified from local legends by the Roman poet Ovid. Ovid himself was also known for a particularly strong anti-authority bent due to his past and was known for playing up the uncaring gods toy with the lives of mortals aspects of his retellings of myths. Regardless he came long after Rome's conquest of Greece and as such his myths should be looked at as the Roman myths they were not Greek myths. In the original Greek myths Medusa was a monster from birth and was one of three sisters with the same powers and appearance.
Holy shit this is impeccable!! The designs are awesomeeeee, you did an amazing job mate! I have an animation project that my friend is working on, ik this seems out of the blue, but I was wondering if you'd be interested in taking a scene, if not that's totally fine, I just think your work is so cool, I can give more info if needed
Just listened to some more songs, this dude kills this cyclops pets (if he wanted them just for food they wouldn’t be so upset they died and just demanded to keep the meat himself, he genuinely felt hurt at their death) that our protag tries giving him a gift of drugged wine and wanting the sheep meat and more , than once the cyclops is in a drugged state blinds him and robs him
Well technically he is a Shephard. He wants the sheep for food drink company you name it. In Odyssey he was taking good care of them and his favorite seemed to be a ram. But technically he tramples the laws of Xenia when he kills his visitors and he eats them (in the original without a reason at all). Here Odysseus drugs the wine as a precaution (in the original he just gets him drunk after he has eaten most of his comrades) but Polyphemus kills them even if they try to make amends which is why he was punished with blindness like Odysseus was punished for hurting a God's child
@@katerinaaqu hmmm good point also yes xenia I always saw as just being polite but I guess it techically is a law, but like he could just have also killed them the second they stepped out of the cave and been fine , I guess he just didn’t have… the foresight!
@fossilartstudios5878 Xenia was a whole theme in ancient greece (we kinda hold hospitality in high regards still). In homeric poems the host should offer the visitor to rest and eat, ideally wash and dress too and then they would exchange gifts etc. Almost like a ritual. Odysseus in Odyssey waited for Polyphemus to enter and offered him gifts and asked for gifts in return and Polyphemus scoffed him and said laws of gods meant nothing to cyclops and then smashed two of his comrades to the ground and ate them. Even in the context of the musical though once Odysseus apologized theoretically the whole thing should end but Polyphemus chose to kill them so completely trampling Xenia. Hahahaha foresight? Was that a pun? Hehehe
@fossilartstudios5878 what is more Odysseus almost used the language of the employer (aka someone who employs you for a favor, in a way the beggar) and it was considered a big sin to deny someone employing you the favor. Thetis used it on Zeus for example begging him to give death to the Acheans to honor Achilles in Iliad even Zeus the father of Gods couldn't deny that so the sin Polyphemus comitted was almost double if not triple considering the man eating and all
@@katerinaaqu yes , though to be honest, if someone came into my home and killed my pets (he’s a sheep herder and I can just hear the pain in his voice seeing his sheep killed) I would admittedly not want to invite them to sleep and eat either , like I feel like they were screwed no matter what happened cause the second they leave the cave xenia would no longer apply and than they would have a even angrier Cyclops who was forced to tend to their needs just standing behind them, so either way getting him drunk and leaving probably was the only way they stood a chance
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To be fair, if someone killed my pets I'd react the same way
Honestly me too
Imagine an army of rats breaking into your house and killing your cat. Then trying to bribe you with a very tasty grape.
@@rayd1746 and then the ants drug you and stab out your eye
@@rayd1746 ants would probably be too small, rats or ferrers might be closer for the size analogy, but your comment made me laugh XD
Actualy you have reason
But Polyphemus went to far, you see welcoming the stranger was very important
And no one had the rigth to kill the strangers, expiacyl if they offered gifts.
First of all I love how Polyphemus looks so young here as if he is about the same age as Odysseus maybe even younger. You know, in human years not Cyclops years.
Also, we have to consider that Polyphemus lived alone with his sheep. There were other Cyclops but they weren't friends or something. So his favourite sheep is like someone else's favourite person. Best friend. So Odysseus practically killed his best friend so Polyphemus did the same.
I also love Odysseus expressions. Like, you don't show him frightened all the time, he's more like he has to actually listen to all those terrible threats that he knows the Cyclops means and still not show any fear because he is a leader and a soldier and he can't show that he is terrified, even though he has a plan. I can basically see him trying to stop himself from shaking while he is listening to Polyphemus
Well Polyphemus also lives by his sheep. Can't say if they are "his friends" but he certainly has them for nutrition (in Odyssey he drinks only their milk) and he has them for food and clothing etc. Basically he is a Shephard. So of couese his flock is important to him.
His relationshisp with the other cyclops is indeed not known in Odyssey but maybe they are close enough to be a community (they come to ask who hurt him) but they lack the emotional capacity to be close to each other (they no longer care when they believe he did it himself) so yeah maybe they are semi-isolated from each other and keep themselves to themselves so to speak. But in any case the whole thing should end at the mutual apologies but Polyphemus chose to violate the rules of Xenia by killing those who entered his house
@@katerinaaquSo kind of like a neighbour who you rarely speak to but still say hi and ask how their doing when you cross each other in the street or some thing
@galaxycat3698 Yeah kinda or the neighbor you can't avoid say hi to and if he is too noisy you feel socially obliged to ask what happened. On Odyssey it is mentioned that they kinda lived each on their own keeping themselves to themselves so to speak even if they shared a prosperous land that was great for agriculture and such. So they were not emotionally close but they would stick with their own kind so to speak. It doesn't say whether they had any other kind of relationship but that which seems indeed to be the case; that they just co-existed they didn't really build relationships to each other
@@galaxycat3698 From what I remember, the other cyclops are also children of Poseidon, so more estranged family who don't really speak to each other, this explains why they're concerned when they hear Polyphemus screaming but when he yells "Nobody" go back to what they were doing. The original book describes them as "barbaric" which, given this is Greece, could simply mean dumb and simple.
@@hernethehunter5703It's kind of interesting to note that the Cyclops were never specified to be a race of one-eyed people. Just that they were gigantic, insolent, lawless shepherds that each lived on their own in their caves. Only Polyphemus was specified to have one eye.
absolutely incredible, I love the way you portrayed Polyphemus as not exactly peaceful, but not a monster either. You could say he is... just a man.
Badum tss
That's a good one
Well...yes...but no too indeed. I mean the initial reaction of anger and such so human indeed but once someone tries to make amends you don't exactly kill them all like that either hehehehe
But I see your point!
@@katerinaaqu those sheep were basically his only family and he killed his favorite sheep so he went full blown punisher on em.
@theone-gu9eu they weren't his family they were his flock. He is a herder and a Shepard of course they mean a lot to him because they are his source of nutrition (meat milk cheese) and in a way his company but not his family and obviously not the "only family he's got" given that Poaeidon still cares for him.
Also in the original story they didn't kill anything they just waited for him.
But even in this story, they offered a compensation gift for accidentally killing one of his animals like in modern era you are supposed to pay money to the Shepard if you kill one of their animals.
Going on a full killing spree is not the way especially if the other apologizes. Odysseus had to take advise from the gods and then do another trip to cleanse himself from the murder of the suitors and they were planning the murder of his son. Imagine in this context
I love that Polyphemus is shown through such an understanding lens while Odysseus is just a cocky little shit about his plan to drug him and escape with the flock, I love this portrayal so much
To me even in this version Odysseus didn't put theft in mind. He enters a cave that seems "too good to be true" and then tries to negotiate an apology while he drugs the wine as a precaution because he cannot trust a Maneater.
In the original version they didn't even kill the sheep but waited seeking shelter and Polyphemua mocked the laws of gods and killed and ate his comrades there and then so Odysseus gets him drunk to save himself and the 4 men that were left
Odysseus does tell the survivors to bring the flock along in a later song, and with his crew starving in this retelling it's hard to say for certain that he would've just left had Polyphemus honored the laws of hospitality. Polyphemus still dishonored those laws by accepting the offer only to still attack them, I just enjoy seeing more monstrous characters given depth and reason for their outrage as well as heroes that are allowed to be duplicitous, arrogant and conniving in the same scene
You made Polyphemus so incredibly… passive looking? I’m not sure how to describe it but I’ll try. When I listened to the soundtrack by itself, I was terrified of Polyphemus. Legitimately, the ending verse of “Survive” ACTUALLY gave me trouble sleeping. I had a hard time listening to “Polyphemus” again after listening to it a first time. Goes to show how amazing the music is.
But it also didn’t make me see Polyphemus as a person. A big part of the musical is that Odysseus learns that he’s not as good of a person as he thought he was, and his fight with the Cyclops is mentioned a lot as one of the times Odysseus was a bad person for not killing the Cyclops out of mercy. But I didn’t really see the big deal about it 😅. I thought that such a terrifying monster, a monster who could terrify someone just with sound, didn’t really deserve the empathy.
But here, you made Polyphemus very… gentle. I always imagined him as an enormous shadow over Odysseus and the soldiers. I never even called him by his name until now. But you made him act so undeniably human that I suddenly feel like Odysseus is the one in the wrong here for killing Polyphemus sheep, despite there being no way of him knowing that and the fact that Odysseus was the one who tried to offer peace and payment to Polyphemus.
You made such an evil and horrifying monster into a person. That’s… INCREDIBLY impressive. Again, this guy gave me trouble SLEEPING.
Ikr! He just looks so sad about the dead sheep,, like it really had me going “aww poor guy :(“
Surprisingly Polyphemus was portrayed perfectly as Cyclops were just big humans with on eye
Can’t agree more…this Polyphemus looks so gentle and I somehow cannot believe that he’s actually a monster….and I like your interpretation here
I will just tell u from the something I found out in Percy Jackson book ok? Those sheeps were basically man eating sheeps idk if it's officially true in the myths but it was written in Percy Jackson second book. The fact that Odysseus didn't tell his name tells us that he knows he just came inside a dumb lions cave and he can get out if he plays dumb as well. If he never blinded the cyclops a lot of people have died and not only that he knows that a lot of families would have suffered and again if ur asking me y he hasn't ended the suffering of the ur talking abt a huge giant who eats tiny humans when he is hungry it's a fight or clever flight situation. I am just trying to get u into prospective of the other party I still don't know how Odysseus men killed one of those sheep in the first place with one arrow no less.
mostly agree witch you but not about Odysseus was a bad person for not killing the Cyclops out of mercy becouse there nothing to do witch good bad or mercy Polyphemus may be blind but he still big Cyclops if he trow his hand to you or just a scratch it enough to kill you all Odysseus can in this situation is only runaway
Polyphemus buried the sheep, this is too adorable, I can't-
Also this shot looks cool as heck 1:35
haha I thought it would show just how much he cared for his sheep, mans was just a humble shepherd.
@@imbecileo Well it was a great decision, as I also appreciated the addition!
It's so sweet 😢
@@imbecileoshould have made the hole as he said “deep”
i like the implication here that polyphemus knows that "nobody" is lying about his name and he's decided to kill them all bc he believes that he's being played and has been since the start
If he knew he was being played he wouldn't have said "Nobody hurt me" he would say "this man hurt him. He lied"
I doubt he had any idea he was being played. Which is how the myth worked after all. Normally anyone with a pea brain could see that someone cannot be named "nobody" but Polyphemus did believe it
I’m pretty sure the “Nobody” thing made more sense in the original Greek, like it sounded like more like a name.
@lindenshepherd6085 well it still made little sense. In ancient Greek it would be "Ούτις" "Ùtis" and yeah although it does sound like name in modern ears it still would mean "nobody" in antiquity which would still strike as odd.
Okay I mean there were fellows with name that translated as "blue" or "bright" etc and even "Polites" simply means "citizen" or "someone who resides in a city" but still maybe the name "Nobody" would still strike as odd.
I believe it was to show Odysseus's cunning and the little mental capacity of Polyphemus or that Polyphemus was already drunk at that point or tipsy so he didn't put two and two together
@keeganross well it was still weird for someone to be named as such i believe. We do have plenty weird namws in mythology of course but Nobody kinda surprasses that hehehe there are so many demi gods either sons of Poseifon or of any other God on homeric poems that it's not that odd. Besides a great deal of Poseidon's children were either giants or monsters and at some point they became infamous criminals like those Theseus faced. The Poseidon family is a little bit overboard hahaha
well that was the point hahahaha to show the cunning vs raw strength battle. Normally someone would be skeptical against a man whose comrades you have just eaten. I doubt that he would wish you good but yeah when Odysseus got him drunk he introduced himself as Nobody. And when woken up by this incredible pain the last thing he could do was to put two and two together
Hehehe you are not wrong though hehe I mention that too to my reply
Polyphemus feels very calm for what has happened, like a quiet storm. It's really cool!
1:36 love when his eye lost the light, showing him ready to get violent. For a moment he was human until it was taken and he was ready to become the beast they saw him as.
This is beyond good. It's endlessly so good they didn't even create a word yet for this perfection.
omg thank you so much!!!
Would you say its...epic?
@@Crypticangel502 tempting, but I guess you can find smth...deeper...
I think my favorite part is the way Polyphemus says "wine?" Either he doesn't know what wine is or he's legitimately offended that this asshole little human thing is giving him some cheap booze to make up for killing his favorite sheep.
Neither the one nor the other. In Odyssey it is stated that cyclopses knew what wine was but they didn't make it often. He was actually excited to taste such a great wine.
Two it wasn't "cheap booze". Originally it was a godsend wine they had for Xenia gift exchanges. Also in bronze age there weren't any currencies so what Odysseus is offering is compensation or fee for accidentally killing his flock like you would pay a Shephard tax if you hit one of their sheep with your car. You would just use money while Odysseus would use material.
Ps: in the original Odyssey they didn't even touch his sheep. They waited for him to offer him gifts of Xenia and then take provisions of hospitality as an exchange and then they would be on their way
@@katerinaaqu more of the animatic rearranging the context of the song I think, and in it's own fair way i'd say. From original myth to adapted, script, even an individual actor playing the same role and reading the same scene might just act it out ever so slightly different put of personal temperament and interpretation. Which I imagine is what's happening with these different animatics, an acceptable amount of wiggle room. The cyclops pupil is still dilated into a predatory gaze, gives of the impression he's still rather mad but is keeing it back out of confusion.
@LizVargas100 of course. I am referring to the song in general. As in the original Odyssey no one killed any of his flock. Obviously the creators of the musical wanted an extra motive for Polyphemus to kill them among others. And yes each creator of these animatics simply adds what they think is better based on the sound material they have.
But either way the tone of the singer is out of surprise and longing to respond to the original Odyssey in which Polyphemus was positively surprised by the gift as well as ot seems to me here
It’s a shame Polyphemus couldn’t see eye to eye, cause after making an enemy of Odysseus he’ll have no eyes to see at all
and then Odyssesus screwed himself over after deciding it was a good decision to shout his name and doom his fleet.
Nah odysseus planned on taking the sheep once polyphemus was knocked out you can tell durring the song remember them when he said "Lets grab the sheep and away we go" in other words hed be waking up to his sheep being gone
Ooohhh, the way you framed it, it's almost like Polyphemus caught Odysseus' "Nobody" lie, and that's when he decided he was still going to kill them all.
0:45 love this image it is a great reveal of the cyclops.
Overall you did great with the cyclops. this animatic had me on the same page as Odysseus feeling like he had gotten himself out of the trouble only to find he hadn't, where others make the danger know front and center, this feels like it follows the tone of the song really closely and shows how Odysseus underestimated the cyclops. A really neat take.
by far one of the best animatics for this musical i've seen. *especially* that last shot, the way you used animation in an animatic to catch us off guard like odysseus was gave me CHILLS
this is very specific lmao but i love how you draw hands
Lmao thank you, I give up on them a lot tho hands are thy enemy
You kill his pet and think some booze is gonna smooth it over? That is probably the second dumbest thing you've ever thought of Odysseus, my dude. Just added insult to injury.
Normally it shouldn't be. He accidentally kills livestock and he offers something in return as a compensation gift (modern times people would pay compensation or something) so the thing should end there. Killing people is not exactly civilized answer now is there? Also in Odyssey the wine was quoted to be godsend and not regular one and so again it was a symbolic exchange if anything (in Odyssey they didn't even kill his sheep. Polyphemus just randomly mocked the laws of Xenia and smashed two men on the ground eating them )
The Bombastic side eye of Polyphemus at the end was everything
I've seen a few animations of this song and this one definitely makes Polyphemus a lot more sympathetic and chill compared to the other animations which just make him look menacing
I actually felt so sad when the Polyphemus buried the sheep
He probably was going to let ‘em go but he couldn’t let that pun slide.
This is amazing! The expressions of the characters is on point I felt like I was watching a movie! I genuinely said "aw" when Polyphemus buried the sheep. I never thought of him doing that!
This is so good but the final panel just fucking kills me
Your design of Polyphemus looks so chill so the sudden turn to ominousness is so funny
I love your design of the cyclops, and his entrance was amazing.
Ngl I'm on the cyclops side. He just wanted revenge for his sheep. And that last picture of him actually gave me chills
To be fair Odysseus tried to make amends and I don’t think cannibalism is a fair punishment for what happened
@@johnmartin4119 I mean it's not really cannibalism since Polyphemus isn't a human
@@johnmartin4119 also he didn't really try to make amends since we soon after learn that he mixed lotus in the wine
@@Morningstar_37 you may have a point with the lotus but the “it’s not cannibalism with two different types of beings” doesn’t really hold up. For one it’s Greek mythology, cannibalism is a major taboo whether your human or god or in between, even when Cronus ate his kids and they survived it was still considered cruel and Zeus had no problem punishing humans for it either. Also if we go by the logic of different species equals different treatment then the cyclops shouldn’t be mad if humans are considered a different species since from the human perspective it’s not theft if it’s from a different species so they don’t have to respect Polyphemus’ property since he’s not human
@@johnmartin4119 however, even if humans are a different species, he is still justified in being mad since he sees them as less than him, like if an animal killed my pets you bet I would be mad even if that animal doesn't know that it belongs to me.
Your art??? Is stunning!!! Your cyclops design, Ody and Euri and Paul! The bowl Polyphemus drinks from looks so wonderfully tiny in his hands. Just followed you so if you put out any more videos I'll know!!! You did a very great job!
Imagine that you are a farmer living quietly, one day you come home and find many tiny people in your house stealing your food and killing your animals, including your pet sheep.
Polyphemus is amazingly drawn! the sheep being burried was a nice touch too! 💜
AAAHHHH THIS WAS SO GOOD ! Thank you for sharing your animatic of Epic with us ! Now I have a really clear image of what leads to Remember Them 😆
It will help you watch "survive" too for that is the song of their battle with him in this musical
WOAHHH THIS IS SO GOOD! me and my brother have been obsessed with this musical and just watched this together. How the characters move is just so good! and how you draw faces! and Eyebrows! and HANDS! I NEED to download this into my Brain and keep it there forever
Polites' little wave is so cute though. Great work!
Bro that's the finest looking cyclops ever ;-;
Phew I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks that 🤭
ok but Polyphemus is so cute here???? how?? Anyway it's so incredible, I love it!!
Dude, this is so good. It's fun but serious and such a cute and good style. You're the bomb.
Odysseus was so happy back then. He had Polities and Eurylochus alive, and he smiled back then. It was the calm before the storm they didn't know was coming.
FINALLY ! Someone who makes the cyclops eye the right size !
OMG your designs for the characters is anazing especially the cyclops 😁
Polyphemus looks, quite handsome here, I could believe this was the child of a god considering Olympian progeny were known for their beauty.
Tbh that passive look makes this even more terrifying
This was brilliant to draw and the sheep my god it’s amazing
oooooo i love your character designs!! esp the cyclops, he looks great
bro BRO the image at 0:47 with the music is terrifying
Bro just had to go and kill Polyphemus FAVORITE sheep. Not the others, he had to take the best one.🤣
Love this art style. Your size scaling is also amazing.
THIS IS SO COOOL!! POLITIES' TERRIFIED WAVE, POLYPHEMUS CARRYING HIS SHEEP SO GENTLY!! AMAZING!
Ooooh lovely animation! :D the design for the cyclops is so cool!
This was so good it's my favorite animatic to this song so far. I really love all the expressions
THESE ANIMATICS ARE AMAZING
i thought i had already seen good, but now I saw great. Maybe even best. This is awesome
Awesome, I love your artstyle!
Okay so it took me five years but I think I got it
My favorite thing about animation, especially RUclips animations, are eye movements. I just...get the shivers when I see pupils retract or expand to signify anger, shock, or that predatory stare and very, very slight narrowing Polythemus exhibited at the very last seconds there. I genuinely love the Hands that draw this sorta stuff. Thank you
i love how so ominous this is. and whoever voice polyphemus is incredible. 👍👍👏👏
I think its the end that really makes you scared in this animation. You see picture and frame by frame. In a nice consistent flow however at the end the eye turn was smooth as butter in a hot pan. And thgen the dark force emanating from that behemoth was what really makes atleast me somewhat scared
This is amazing omg!! Also I'm crazy I know but Polyphemus is actually kinda...handsome actually? And it just makes me love this animatic even more so.
That was sooooo good! Ahhhhh, I've seen so many great animatics to the songs of Epic already, people are so talented. This is amazing!
"I am so glad to see eye to eye"
me: thinking* is that a pun ?? also a future pun?*lol
Knowing Odysseus it could be hahahahahahaha current pun at least since the blinding decision came after the murder of his comrades hahahahahahaha it could be worse! Hahahaha at least he said "eye to eye" hahahaha he used singular hahahaha
ur drawings r so well done and I love the way u interpreted the look of the characters. Hope to watch a part 2 :)
Oh I love finding incredibly skilled people thanks to animatics!!! This looks amazing!
Why- Why cyclop kinda hot-
IKR
He said "You heard me." 3:31
Alternative: "Did I stutter?"
Alternative: "I came looking for booty"
Hiii! first off i love how crisp(?) / clear your drawing is !! The expressions on all the men , calm yet righteously sad Polyphemus & Odessey in being a smooth -talker for their lives and the unbearable fear as he whispers “…What?…” Oh ! you have now a new subscripter!
This is amazing, great job animating this song ❤❤
Polyphemus and John Wick should do a team up
OMGG ID BEEN WAITING FOR A POLYPHEMUS FULL ANIMATICCSS AAAAA
Great foreshortening and playing with different angles.
OMG its so cool! The character design and animation! Amazing!
While I don’t like the tusks myself , I love how you made his eye a decent size rather than tiny , that always infuriates me
No saben cuanto esperé por ver un animatic de esta canción y de Survive
This is the best way for me to study-
This is amazing!
The voice for Pilyphemus is so cool
Wait….. how did you make a giant cyclops who plans to kill 600 men so cute 🥹
This animatic is incredible
I love how he looks. Also when he buried his sheep was sweet.
I love your Polyphemus design
Love the art work in this animation!!!!
Thank u!!!!
This is perfect!
shouldve kept the eye joke to himself lol
Honestly Prometheus is just a Minecraft person who just wants to farm
You mean Polyphemus? Hahahaha indeed he just had flocks of sheep and goats and he was making cheese and milking them for milk or use them for food. Hahahaha yeah he was a herder
@@katerinaaqu yeah autocorrect
@@voxenmoran3363 yup the nightmare of every text! Hahahaha
@@voxenmoran3363 but you weren't wrong about Prometheus either hahahahaha he too builds stuff and uses fire and all hahahaja
@@katerinaaqu definitely that one person to make their own mod for Minecraft
You just flexing on us that you can draw feet. 🥲
So GOOD!!
I like how he buried the sheep. Even though he might as well have given it to the crew to eat and make use of it, it was the act of reverence and kindness that mattered.
I love Odysseus' hair
Love this
2:14 i gotta say, i really love this shot
Not his favorite sheep 😢😭
What a handsome cyclops tho 😰
I can’t handle Polites without his glasses help me.
I crave more.
I loved your design of everyone, Polyphemus in particular. I thought it was a nice touch that you let him bury his sheep, Ody and his men are *not* taking that one.
I always wondered, isn't the wine they give Poly from a container in his cave, meaning it was his wine they were trying to trade? If it's theirs, why would they bring it from the ship to the cave if they think it's unoccupied? I'm overthinking.
Either way, a quick drink can't replace a living, breathing friend, so I don't blame him (as much) for what he does next. He's an emotional sort, has been intruded upon and now he's in terrible distress.
The more I read into Greek myth, the more I feel sorry for the monsters in them. Asterion didn't asked to be trapped in a labyrinth and fed only prisoners. Medusa didn't asked to get raped by a god and turned into a monster as a means to protect her. And Polyphemus didn't asked for his pet to be killed and to be blinded for defending his home..
It's worth noting that that version of the Medusa myth is Roman, not Greek. The version seems to have been either invented wholesale or modified from local legends by the Roman poet Ovid. Ovid himself was also known for a particularly strong anti-authority bent due to his past and was known for playing up the uncaring gods toy with the lives of mortals aspects of his retellings of myths. Regardless he came long after Rome's conquest of Greece and as such his myths should be looked at as the Roman myths they were not Greek myths. In the original Greek myths Medusa was a monster from birth and was one of three sisters with the same powers and appearance.
All too true. Folks tend to prefer the roman version to her story than the Greek one.
Ultra Nice 🤍🤍
2:13 Eren Yeager
Holy shit this is impeccable!! The designs are awesomeeeee, you did an amazing job mate! I have an animation project that my friend is working on, ik this seems out of the blue, but I was wondering if you'd be interested in taking a scene, if not that's totally fine, I just think your work is so cool, I can give more info if needed
polites lil wave is so
Image if so talking rats came in your house killed your dog and started singing about it
1:00-1:06 Mustache wiggle.
I think it’s not fair for him to be last to die. Then he would have to see everyone else die in front of him and that is damaging as seen in survive.
Good
Just listened to some more songs, this dude kills this cyclops pets (if he wanted them just for food they wouldn’t be so upset they died and just demanded to keep the meat himself, he genuinely felt hurt at their death) that our protag tries giving him a gift of drugged wine and wanting the sheep meat and more , than once the cyclops is in a drugged state blinds him and robs him
Well technically he is a Shephard. He wants the sheep for food drink company you name it. In Odyssey he was taking good care of them and his favorite seemed to be a ram. But technically he tramples the laws of Xenia when he kills his visitors and he eats them (in the original without a reason at all). Here Odysseus drugs the wine as a precaution (in the original he just gets him drunk after he has eaten most of his comrades) but Polyphemus kills them even if they try to make amends which is why he was punished with blindness like Odysseus was punished for hurting a God's child
@@katerinaaqu hmmm good point also yes xenia I always saw as just being polite but I guess it techically is a law, but like he could just have also killed them the second they stepped out of the cave and been fine , I guess he just didn’t have… the foresight!
@fossilartstudios5878 Xenia was a whole theme in ancient greece (we kinda hold hospitality in high regards still). In homeric poems the host should offer the visitor to rest and eat, ideally wash and dress too and then they would exchange gifts etc. Almost like a ritual. Odysseus in Odyssey waited for Polyphemus to enter and offered him gifts and asked for gifts in return and Polyphemus scoffed him and said laws of gods meant nothing to cyclops and then smashed two of his comrades to the ground and ate them. Even in the context of the musical though once Odysseus apologized theoretically the whole thing should end but Polyphemus chose to kill them so completely trampling Xenia.
Hahahaha foresight? Was that a pun? Hehehe
@fossilartstudios5878 what is more Odysseus almost used the language of the employer (aka someone who employs you for a favor, in a way the beggar) and it was considered a big sin to deny someone employing you the favor. Thetis used it on Zeus for example begging him to give death to the Acheans to honor Achilles in Iliad even Zeus the father of Gods couldn't deny that so the sin Polyphemus comitted was almost double if not triple considering the man eating and all
@@katerinaaqu yes , though to be honest, if someone came into my home and killed my pets (he’s a sheep herder and I can just hear the pain in his voice seeing his sheep killed) I would admittedly not want to invite them to sleep and eat either , like I feel like they were screwed no matter what happened cause the second they leave the cave xenia would no longer apply and than they would have a even angrier Cyclops who was forced to tend to their needs just standing behind them, so either way getting him drunk and leaving probably was the only way they stood a chance