Why the hell is YungWaff still a commentator? He never has nothing good to say about Mango.. the bias is real. At least make it so he doesnt comment on Mango matches again
Is this the end of Falco, or was mango underperforming? Find out on the next episode of I Don't Even Play Melee Anymore But Can't Stop Following the Scene.
he picked bad options near ledge too many times and did not mix up his metagame at all throughout the 3 matches. he didn't even bother to counter pick. i'd take my loss on yoshis and go anywhere else.
Falco died when Wes peaked. Say whatever the hell you want Marth has 100 ways to kill Falco Falco has like 5 to kill Marth from a given punish. FD is practically an auto win and the best Falco stage is also a good Marth stage so he has no stage advantage on Marth.
Why is it that Mang0 can get horribly 3-0'd, play terribly, and still be the focus of 95% of the commentators' conversation. Why didn't they talk about how well Zain was playing?
at this point I think mang0s level of care for competition is at an all time low, kind of sucks, but that happens after 10+ years of it *edit: glad I was wrong*
u cant be mad at zain. i want to be lol but u cant blame him. he did what he had to do to win. and mango was yoloing. hate to say it but next time mango should put some respek on zain before playing him in a set
VimeosBetter I was at the tournament and he was actually playing with Zain for a few hours in the “pro player lounge”. I saw go back and forth to get drinks a ton of times... he was definitely drunk. Had him sign this sick fox poster too lmao
Honestly, I don't think anyone outside of the current top 5 can stop Zain at this point, except for Axe and aMSa, I'd say. I mean, Zain literally dropped no games to anyone he's beaten this tournament. All of his set wins were convincing 3-0s. Only really dropped anything to Hbox and Armada, that's huge.
Falco's perfect wavedash goes super far, his perfect waveland & Ledgedash too Source: I spent too much time practicing stuff like that instead of things I'd really use in a match
I mean it's clearly practical to use in a match, if you slow the vid down to 25% you can clearly see that it almost perfectly avoids the first and second hits of the attack
Why the hell is YungWaff still a commentator? He never has nothing good to say about Mango.. the bias is real. At least make it so he doesnt comment on Mango matches again
Looking back on this comment of mine and I'm further convinced; Mango is done winning tournaments. He needs 5 people to not show up for him to even have a chance.
Someone else made a good point. The godslayers and demigods have become so good that they're eliminating the gods who can actually beat hbox lmao. Mang0 died so Zain could get 3-0 by Armada. :( Same thing happens when Leff beats Armada then loses to Hbox again and again. I really hope Mang0 gets a good bracket where he gets to face Hbox or Armada because I think he has a good chance at beating him but it seems like Zain is a new person he has to dodge now, for the time being...or he should just counterpick to a stage where he doesn't fly off the stage from a down throw despite being close to the center of it. :P
Why would he show up drunk? Mang0 was practicing so much on his stream. I thought we were getting tryhard Mang0 in 2018. -_- Maybe he took the M2K loss too badly, since he expected to destroy him.
Zain was absolutely fucking on mango for a while. I'm glad it's more even now (and seemingly more in mangos favor as of late) 2020 baby, let's go. Super excited for melee
How is Zain getting away with those approaching nairs?! Some of them werent even in good spacing. Was Mango just playing that badly? I wish i could get away with those kind of nairs but I just get shield shined :(
Being a Mango fan is not easy. Legit lost my will to keep watching the tourney after this set. We all know mango can do it, why did he sandbagged it? Well at least Hbox didn't win
Mango didn’t look like he was into it or something. No hate on Zain but Mango has never played this poorly in recent time. But then again Mango is laughing, looks like he might be drunk. I know people say no Johns but still xD.
What a waste... damn it Mango... take ur tournies seriously for ur fans! We wait weeks to see you play seriously... sigh... maybe next time you will come to win...
ofc everyone armchair analyzing why mango lost and if it’s over for falco or mango. zain played better than mango this day. Falco is still fucking top tier and mango is still a good player.
hearing the story behind this set makes it even funnier
also here based on that interview
He did the Mang0
Zain even homie stocked, this is butchery
Why the hell is YungWaff still a commentator? He never has nothing good to say about Mango.. the bias is real. At least make it so he doesnt comment on Mango matches again
Mrniceguy 818 In case you didn't notice, Mango spent all six minutes of this set getting bodied.
Mrniceguy 818 I’m guessing you don’t really know his history.
Neil MacDonald Mango homie setted him so...
Zain said mango was drunk af at that tourney in an interview and that's y he gets bodied so hard
I miss the old Mang0
Straight from the G0! Mang0
The best Falco Mang0
Read all the rolls Mang0
I hate the new Mang0
Play Chu and lose Mang0
Buster in crews Mang0
Drink all the booze Mang0
underrated bars
*Play Zain and lose Mang0
See we still love Mang0
That’s all it was Mang0
And I love Mang0 like Mang0
Loves Mang0
The problem for mango isn't that he's lost his way. The problem for mango is simple... people just got better
"One of us is getting 3-0'd. I don't know who." - Mango right before this set
*Sees the result of the first game, looks at time* Huh. Welp, gg.
same homie. not even gonna watch the rest of the set :(
still can’t believe mango managed to win 3 straight in only 5 minutes 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’m here to John for Mang0
tbf he was apparently smashed
The buster in true form
"One of us is getting 3-0’d. I don’t know who."
I call this the Falco syndrome. At some points, Falco mains either become Fox players, or they play Falco long enough to become a circus.
good thing leffen swiched to fox early.
I love Mango's Falco, but I think his Fox is overall way better.
Wobbles is such a good commentator
TheDudeSmashTrash said no one ever
True, he's pretty great
the thinking mans commentator
Mitchell Laclé What? Wobbles is definitely a great commentator. He analyzes the matches well
He is smart and informative, fun fact he got 2nd place at EVO loseing to mango
Is this the end of Falco, or was mango underperforming? Find out on the next episode of I Don't Even Play Melee Anymore But Can't Stop Following the Scene.
ahappyimago nah he was just wasted
Slump X makes sense he was kind of sloppy.
he picked bad options near ledge too many times and did not mix up his metagame at all throughout the 3 matches. he didn't even bother to counter pick. i'd take my loss on yoshis and go anywhere else.
Mango fucken sucked in this
Falco died when Wes peaked. Say whatever the hell you want Marth has 100 ways to kill Falco Falco has like 5 to kill Marth from a given punish. FD is practically an auto win and the best Falco stage is also a good Marth stage so he has no stage advantage on Marth.
As a retired Falco player and a mango fan that really sucked to watch.
ahappyimago is that u pp?
ahappyimago agreed. Nothing but salt afterward from me. At least Hbox didn't win
thanks for spoiling it man, I really appreciate it...
Mélik Mourali who reads the comments of a set before watching it? Of course people are gonna talk about the outcome.
Mango doesn’t give a shit about winning. It’s obvious
The story behind the set on turndownforwalt's channel really makes the set
For real. I had to come see for myself
Who else is watching this again after the TDFW short? 😂😂
Why is it that Mang0 can get horribly 3-0'd, play terribly, and still be the focus of 95% of the commentators' conversation. Why didn't they talk about how well Zain was playing?
This, this is why Jordan. ruclips.net/video/vNDRS-9AD_E/видео.html
Mang0 played like shit. Props to Zain for destroying him, but beating up someone who's already limping so to speak, is not super impressive.
Mang0 got 30 bombed with falco and he didn't double laser from the ledge once... which leads me to believe this coulda been A LOT WORSE.
Mango did the double laser once, around 3:36 xd
That wasnt from the ledge so i didnt count that
I didn't noticed that until I saw it again, my b.
at this point I think mang0s level of care for competition is at an all time low, kind of sucks, but that happens after 10+ years of it
*edit: glad I was wrong*
lol
Kappa
this aged like milk
@@Sushigh0st trueeee
@@lordkappa6324 from the time period i am from mango is washed again haha
Wow. Is Zain the first person to 3-0 AND homie stock mango? Probably..
m2k has probably done it before lul
Connor donovan I actually never saw M2K beat Mang0 did he?
@@saraskyline8331 hes done it a few times.
PPMD didn't have a Marth problem, because he knew Marth in and out.
Vatnos cool
Itll be interesting to see zain v ppmd for sure but also keep in mind that pp will switch to marth if he feels he needs to.
u cant be mad at zain. i want to be lol but u cant blame him. he did what he had to do to win. and mango was yoloing. hate to say it but next time mango should put some respek on zain before playing him in a set
VimeosBetter Or play sober.
Elias Badillo He was intoxicated??? Jesus
He's always drunk in any smash event lmao
VimeosBetter I was at the tournament and he was actually playing with Zain for a few hours in the “pro player lounge”. I saw go back and forth to get drinks a ton of times... he was definitely drunk. Had him sign this sick fox poster too lmao
VimeosBetter or at least respect the man'S SWORD.
Like geez. Mango what was this lol
Mango cut his hair, and with it, his power.
Honestly, I don't think anyone outside of the current top 5 can stop Zain at this point, except for Axe and aMSa, I'd say. I mean, Zain literally dropped no games to anyone he's beaten this tournament. All of his set wins were convincing 3-0s. Only really dropped anything to Hbox and Armada, that's huge.
He lost to an unranked marth. He can be defeated
So You mean he’s killing spacies really badly
JuneBug can defeat Zain
Don’t forget m2k bested him twice at summit
can we talk about mango's wavedash out of shield at 1:24
WTF the notches bruh
It doesn't seem possible, Falco's wavedash does not go that far
Falco's perfect wavedash goes super far, his perfect waveland & Ledgedash too
Source: I spent too much time practicing stuff like that instead of things I'd really use in a match
I mean it's clearly practical to use in a match, if you slow the vid down to 25% you can clearly see that it almost perfectly avoids the first and second hits of the attack
Wtf
Damn. I hope mango takes his next set with Zain seriously. That was brutal.
no johns
How was that even a john? Mang0 clearly played like crap. And he kept going back to Yoshi's even after getting destroyed.
I think it's a meme that a john is literally any excuse or explanation
This is the worst set I've ever seen
Lol
what about g4 grand finals
I'm a peach player, so g4 grand finals were actually fantastic in my eyes
Sad Pinniped this is an awful set because Mang0 lost :(
Grand Finals was really good because I main Peach
Now that's some real Bias
Mango why
Ashton Leinauer mangoWhy
Why the hell is YungWaff still a commentator? He never has nothing good to say about Mango.. the bias is real. At least make it so he doesnt comment on Mango matches again
Mrniceguy 818 waff is a huge mango fan wym
clearly lying if he said that
Mrniceguy 818 watch royal flush gf, people complain that he is biased towards mango loo
Welcome tdfw-ers
MANGO WASHED ! MANGO WASHED ! MANGO WASHED ! MANGO WASHED ! MANGO WASHED ! MANGO WASHED !
Looking back on this comment of mine and I'm further convinced; Mango is done winning tournaments. He needs 5 people to not show up for him to even have a chance.
Mango has a better chance vs armada or hbox than Zain at this point
Someone else made a good point. The godslayers and demigods have become so good that they're eliminating the gods who can actually beat hbox lmao. Mang0 died so Zain could get 3-0 by Armada. :( Same thing happens when Leff beats Armada then loses to Hbox again and again. I really hope Mang0 gets a good bracket where he gets to face Hbox or Armada because I think he has a good chance at beating him but it seems like Zain is a new person he has to dodge now, for the time being...or he should just counterpick to a stage where he doesn't fly off the stage from a down throw despite being close to the center of it. :P
Ashton Leinauer nah he was not playing well this tournament, he would have been destroyed by armada and leffen as well
He was wasted before this match. If he was versing hbox/armada, he probably would have rocked up sober lmao.
Why would he show up drunk? Mang0 was practicing so much on his stream. I thought we were getting tryhard Mang0 in 2018. -_- Maybe he took the M2K loss too badly, since he expected to destroy him.
Dlord1PlayStation probably because he started in losers side top 8
That feel when Zain is up 2-0 at 4:51 and you see the vid is only 6 mins long...
This set was hilarious honestly lmao
And the wheels have fallen off the Mang0 train
Oh how time flies
If he knew he was drinking that much he shoulda went Falcon. Drunk Falcon is The Bane of Zain.
Mang0 looking like a straight jabroni
Haven't watched Melee consistently since half a year ago. I see Mango is still washed up, I guess the vasectomy really impacted his game.
This is why Mango needs Tafo, he woulda told him not to go Yoshi's every game lol
He also would've told him to be easy on the alcohol...
Wait, is Tafo no longer his couch?
Fain Nope, he works for Clg now
811stonne Damn :( they still friends and all, right?
mango would probly tell u stage doesnt even really matter
Zain was absolutely fucking on mango for a while. I'm glad it's more even now (and seemingly more in mangos favor as of late)
2020 baby, let's go. Super excited for melee
So is Mango four now? Or still M2K?
Good shit Magno
He did it for the fans
good shit for what?
Welcome to marth v falco. Nothing will change this fact.
How is Zain getting away with those approaching nairs?! Some of them werent even in good spacing. Was Mango just playing that badly? I wish i could get away with those kind of nairs but I just get shield shined :(
Really wish mango would just take care of himself more and try instead of being so nonchalant intoxicated every event
y did it ssay zain is MD, hes VA
It’s not the matchup, it’s Mang0
drunk mango still plays crazy
we goin to game 2
Mango is not even top 10 anymore
What's the Marth falco match up like? 30/70? Idk man, it's hard seeing mango lose like this. Zain has his number and he's calling it.
It's cause Zain was eating fruit bowls, and Mango was drinking
*the homie stock*
I like how now a days sets between these two is peak Melee. But of course the meta hasn't changed 🙃
is zain a melee god now or wut
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just curious. What happened to Mang0 that night?
ThrownOrc777 He was drunk.
Elias Badillo WOAH what?? Before a top 8?? Dang!
He got bounced from winners by M2K before top 8 and then he said fuck it on sunday
6:05 Marth really is invincible when dashing back
Came to back to this set after Mango danced all over Zain at GTX just to laugh at the people who doubted him.🙂
I think that it's their play styles. Mango has gotta play safer... but he won't. Maybe all these zain loses will encourage him to work it out
I’m here to use footage of wasted Mango vs Zain as proof that Falco can never win against Marth.
lmao turns out mango was wasted and on one hour of sleep for this set
Tbh his movement is still better than mine sober
Being a Mango fan is not easy. Legit lost my will to keep watching the tourney after this set.
We all know mango can do it, why did he sandbagged it?
Well at least Hbox didn't win
Mang0 always says he's not an alcoholic, but he legit needs someone to monitor him. Wish Tafo didn't leave...
Fuck it, johns so I can sleep at night after that set.
Mango seemed like he just wanted the set to be over. He just looked so sad, frustrated and impatient.
Mango just looks over it like he doesn’t want to play zains game , which kinda sucks , do u think zains having fun? Mangos not probably
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't enjoy watching this. Zain put on a clinic
dthrow dtilt woo clinic
Geez zain is really fuckin good
My man was 🤤
I wanted Zain to win, but not like this.
Mango played so hot though! Zain's punish game was so strong
That bowl cut…… mango why
Who put mango in losers?
Jane Marth (M2K
this might be the worst mango has ever played
Everytime someone loses badly people are just like, is this the end of their career?! ... chill out haha , you win some you lose some
Fruit powered Zain up heavy
Been up till 4am to watch Mang0 play. Well...
my face when zain is up 6 matches in 2 sets against mango :)
From Sampson to Bobobo to here, we learn that there is power in the hair. Shouldn't have cut it.
*see lenght of the video
heh, someone is about to get fucked up
*see mango lose game 1
OH SHIT SOMEONE IS ABOUT TO GET FUCKED UP
if you ever want to see me cry
*show me this*
still hurts
holy fuck man i like Zain, hes my favorite player by a lot!
also mango so dumb for picking yoshis twice loll
Mango didn’t look like he was into it or something. No hate on Zain but Mango has never played this poorly in recent time. But then again Mango is laughing, looks like he might be drunk. I know people say no Johns but still xD.
People need to stop making johns every fucking time MaNg0 looses
What a waste... damn it Mango... take ur tournies seriously for ur fans! We wait weeks to see you play seriously... sigh... maybe next time you will come to win...
Talha Ghani I literally left the stream when he got eliminated.
For the love of god bring back the mango fox
Jose Calcagno it’s not the character he just played like a fool, no lasers and just ran straight at him after getting hit.
Playing drunk Melee isn't eas.
Everyone here is blaming mango, but imo Zain is just unbelievably good right now, haven't seen him lose a set yet!
*recently
If he stopped being a drinker and started smoking the reefer. These sets would be different.
zain played with honor
ofc everyone armchair analyzing why mango lost and if it’s over for falco or mango. zain played better than mango this day. Falco is still fucking top tier and mango is still a good player.
The buster strikes back :/
I are you all came to watch this set too
this is like a shitty autopilot falco. what happened mango the goat?
if only you knew how drunk mango was
Beautiful
Cue carnival music
Wishing he picked dreamland!
Holy shit Zain. Holy shit
Sometimes you gotta go out like a buster
shoulda pulled out the scorpion master
Mango clearly did not want to win at all that game
That brain on Zain
Hard to watch