@welovecurling He was just giving his Falco knowledge as a Falco main. It's not because he is talking about frame data that he knows more about the game than Mango. Also I hate the myth about "no one understand what Mango does" as if he is the only one. No one knows exactly what top players do. Otherwise they wouldn't be winning.
oh ya, one of the great minds of melee. super insightful and knowledgeable about the game. he’s definitely helping us falcos realize we can play smart too and mix it up unlike the mass aggro play we/i grew accustomed to becuz of the age of circus westballz lul. god bless his soul but one of the top players said it best “westballz created a generation of shitty falcos”
Mang0 is looking to even the lifetime count. Zain had the better over Mang0 for quite a while during his skyrocket rise to Top 10, but The Kid is back in 2019.
Love their sets. Mang0's play is so on the edge and Zain's movement and choices are so precise and steadfast. Also, anyone notice how after sets, Zain extends his hand and looks you dead in the eyes intimately? It would be like a teeny bit unsettling for me.
@@MultipleWaysTutorials ye I also don't think that it is as bad as it sounds. But just to go sure, he should go to the doctor after the summit to checkout what's up and maybe just take a little break. Maybe that pain while doing powershielding came up becuz he was training too much due to the many important tournaments we have right now (goml, sns and summit). But still I don't think that it has to be a technical spacie or moonwalking ganon to get handpains. Powershielding is just a really fast motion by your index or middlefinger and doing it over and over can screw up your hands if you dont give them enough rest. I'm not a doctor, these are just my thoughts.
@@MultipleWaysTutorials that's not really the point, certain motions hurt your hands/arms- especially if you do them a lot. Hax hands is solely in reference to the most noteable player to quit melee due to hand issues.
Can someone explain to me what the deal is with the quality of the capture at the beginning / end of the matches? On Ready it looks normal, but then the color just really enhances on Go.
When mango is sober he can easily be the worst too. Mango's fire comes and goes with the wind Edit: which is why being a mango fan is the absolute best rn
Yeah but even without the pain you’ll never be anywhere near the level of greatness of any player. You will always reside in mediocrity and I’m glad your arm hurts
Aaron Beilstein I mean obviously but I was never really scared Mango was going to lose even when he was down 2 stocks to 1 on game 5. He was just moving so fast and playing so reckless
I think part of it is that but part of it is also Marth is heavily favored in the matchup against Falco and there are a lot of Falcos on commentary (HomeMadeWaffles/Ginger)
This is a common thing that happens in commentary. The commentators get stuck telling the game from one players perspective. They probably didn’t even realize. Probably cause of Ginger too. Nobody would have been upset if Zain won
Ginger's the only one on the mic doing work and he's the only one not getting paid
*mang0 posts on Twitter* "I just realized you don't have to approach every time :0"
*continues to approach nonstop*
That's the mang0
Lol mango has had that realization about 100 times in the last 8 years i have been watching him.
themeta
puff guide all those years ago “you don’t have to approach if you don’t want to”
Goes in every time like a G
I figured he would've realized by now judging by him complaining about how lame axe plays during iron mans
one of my favorite things in all of melee is listening to ginger talk about mango
Exactly
@welovecurling He was just giving his Falco knowledge as a Falco main. It's not because he is talking about frame data that he knows more about the game than Mango.
Also I hate the myth about "no one understand what Mango does" as if he is the only one. No one knows exactly what top players do. Otherwise they wouldn't be winning.
ginger's comments were so in-depth and micro, very enjoyable
in-depth and micro
kreygasm
liking Ginger's commentary a lot
for real more ginger commentary, quickly gives a more in depth take, and makes situations most people dont mention hype like the marth invincibility
He's the methodical Falco player we've been needing to fill half of the hole left by PP's disappearance (Although PP's lookin better every day now)
oh ya, one of the great minds of melee. super insightful and knowledgeable about the game. he’s definitely helping us falcos realize we can play smart too and mix it up unlike the mass aggro play we/i grew accustomed to becuz of the age of circus westballz lul. god bless his soul but one of the top players said it best “westballz created a generation of shitty falcos”
shef westballz aint aggro
SkaterLauro ok but which of his plays are getting into all the combo videos, aggro overwhelming falco plays
Once he went down 2-1 mang0 was pisseddd.
5:15 match start
you're the homie
Gingers commentary was really insightful
Mango is wave shining through ivy like a speed demon!
Great reference.
PHOON!
Admins hes doing it sideways
Mang0 is looking to even the lifetime count. Zain had the better over Mang0 for quite a while during his skyrocket rise to Top 10, but The Kid is back in 2019.
Now thats a lot of damage!
Justin Y. of Melee, but you're cool, you're always so positive and nice.
@@andreibors7930 | I always do my best to be positive! 😁🍅
Love their sets. Mang0's play is so on the edge and Zain's movement and choices are so precise and steadfast. Also, anyone notice how after sets, Zain extends his hand and looks you dead in the eyes intimately? It would be like a teeny bit unsettling for me.
wow that full-hop late laser into grab on the last stock was disgusting.
mango popped off! this summit is great
Melee is sick
forward smash at the end was sick
Gingers commentary is pretty good tbh
Zain needs to take a vacation. Does he want to end up with Hax hands?
Zain is dope but what he's doing isn't really as technical as hax's fox for example
@@MultipleWaysTutorials ye I also don't think that it is as bad as it sounds. But just to go sure, he should go to the doctor after the summit to checkout what's up and maybe just take a little break. Maybe that pain while doing powershielding came up becuz he was training too much due to the many important tournaments we have right now (goml, sns and summit).
But still I don't think that it has to be a technical spacie or moonwalking ganon to get handpains. Powershielding is just a really fast motion by your index or middlefinger and doing it over and over can screw up your hands if you dont give them enough rest. I'm not a doctor, these are just my thoughts.
@@MultipleWaysTutorials that's not really the point, certain motions hurt your hands/arms- especially if you do them a lot. Hax hands is solely in reference to the most noteable player to quit melee due to hand issues.
mang0 blowing the 3 to 1 lead game 3 hurt to watch
Idk how I would have handled it if he didnt bring it back lmao
Can someone explain to me what the deal is with the quality of the capture at the beginning / end of the matches? On Ready it looks normal, but then the color just really enhances on Go.
Summit gameplay is being captured using Slippi, which reads the inputs from the players and emulates them in real time using Dolphin in HD.
Raid Wait, is that on console?
The players are playing on a console and a CRT. Slippi is installed on their console. All the Dolphin emulation stuff is happening on a computer.
Ah, so the enhancement is probably just on the viewer's end. Thanks!
Didn't you know
The way of the blade lol. Amazing plays by both.
This felt like auch an all out brawl
When Mango is sober he can easily be the best.
When mango is drunk and lucky he is the best
When mango is sober he can easily be the worst too. Mango's fire comes and goes with the wind
Edit: which is why being a mango fan is the absolute best rn
Mango you almost gave me a heart attack
Ginger should commentate every mango match at summit. It was sooooo good!
Holy smokes
5:12 for the start
no praise for zains 3 stock comeback game three on dreamland?
They said “That’s the Falco-Marth MU for you”
marth gimping a falco really isnt that technically impressive
Good on him, but the reason was more of mang0 throwing it and Zain exploiting that like a marth would
this set made me like ginger more on commentary
The hell happened at 13:27??
Unfortunately Twitch had some worldwide issues at the time.
5:15 start
If Zain would have homie stocked, he would have won. Mango was pissed.
Why would he homie stock im a tourney?
Cause that’s what homies do
@@basara748 bruh please watch mangos stream
@@LinktheDragonslayer y
The nation sweating. That end was cochino
Dude the quality is so good
Eddie Nicholas slippi 👌🏼
Where can I get the red clear Nintendo controller shell like mangos?
that was some good melee
14:50 those lasers!
20:30 HBox death?
Last stock Mang0 has NO fear
Sick af set
This is shofu commentating right? From the pokemon xy wifi battles?
Holy fucking shit this set.
Sick set, mango just outplayed
bruh when did zain get this good
Past 2 years have been amazing for zain
LETS GO MANGO
This set almost killed me holy shit
Mango lookin dope in this set
This is why I watch the mango streams the pop off from my nigga mango.
MANGO YES
LET'S FUCKING GO MANGOOO
18:22 Zain threw it on game 5, if he just did down throw or back throw instead of up he wouldve had falco off stage at %60
Slobbernocker... Ginger great insight on the falco moves
Ginger's commentary low key fire
Oof hearing about Zains arm pain hurts me on a deep level. As another young gamer with arm pain it's just so rough.
Yeah but even without the pain you’ll never be anywhere near the level of greatness of any player. You will always reside in mediocrity and I’m glad your arm hurts
Zain said it's actually not bothering him during the tournament cause adrenaline and whatnot.
Benjamin Benjamin Well aren’t you just lovely sir
No-name789 shut your fucking mouth.
Mang0 w/ the pop off
Game three ends
*Laughs in Marth Main*
That’s the mango
MANGO MANGO MANGO 🥭
Your profile picture made that funny
“Don’t watch it on RUclips..”
Oof call me out why don’t you
He’s the best at the matchup because he had to deal with this with mew2king for years lol.
I know it was a 5 game set but it really didn’t ever feel that close
game 5 last stock you mean? 3 stock come back for zain game 3,
How much closer could it get lol?
Aaron Beilstein I mean obviously but I was never really scared Mango was going to lose even when he was down 2 stocks to 1 on game 5. He was just moving so fast and playing so reckless
@@ethangilworth7891 I was lmao it's Falco
SouL that’s not really how you’re supposed to play falco. That’s just how mango plays when he’s feeling himself
That falcon is muy cochino
fuck yeah mango
MANGOMANGOMANGO
Maaan HMW is such a legend :) !!
2
*Marth beats Falco*
Marth is hella lame
Nice commentary ginger
I know it’s just Summit and stuff, but the commentary is extremely biased :/
Bruh, its summit. What did you expect lmao
Lol its the kid. Ofc its biased. Hes the most wild card god there ever was and everyone loves the wildcard
@@lambchu6459 IT GETS OLD AFTER 10 YEARS
@@RadicalTadpoles1000 12 yrs
also no it doesn't
The mang0 bias is rediculous
I think part of it is that but part of it is also Marth is heavily favored in the matchup against Falco and there are a lot of Falcos on commentary (HomeMadeWaffles/Ginger)
This is a common thing that happens in commentary.
The commentators get stuck telling the game from one players perspective. They probably didn’t even realize. Probably cause of Ginger too.
Nobody would have been upset if Zain won
U must be new here
lil bit of bias on commentary lmaooo